1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm off my game today. No, you're not. People are 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: going to have to start making better content. I think 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about this for a long time. 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: When you program for everyone, you program for no one. 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: I think it's a word purpose driven platform. Like we're 6 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: trying to get to substance? How was that? Are you 7 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: happy with that? This is marketing therapy right now? It 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: really is? What's up? I'm Laura Curni and I'm Alexa Kristen. 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Atlantia. April showers, bring May flowers. So 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: today we're talking about ladies. Yeah, we're going like Beyonce 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: just did Bacello. Well, we're going rides. So we're gonna 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: have ari Wen Groff, publisher of Broadley, on the show. 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: Broadley being the women's platform on Vice. So we wanted 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: to have arian other than her being a total badass, 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: she is a total bad super smart and super crazy smart. 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: To talk about publishing for female issues looks like today brands, 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: how brands can get around it, and how brands maybe 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: aren't getting around it, and also like, what is content 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: for women actually look like? What does that actually mean? 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: Or does it mean anything? Can we categorize it? And 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: so we wanted or should we categorize it? And I 22 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: think for us, one of the things that Laura and 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: I have talked a lot about is that a lot 24 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: of publishers have come out with kind of female adjacent 25 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: content to their general content. Being adjacent adjacent keyword. And 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: I think that Vice was one of the first who 27 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: actually created a female platform, right which was not influenced 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: or informed by other topics that existed, but rather was 29 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: hitting issues that went deeper than sort of surface pop 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: culture that you can catch in any of the glossy 31 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: magazines or celebrity rags. Yeah, totally. I think you can 32 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: go to school on culture through a female lens in 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: some ways with broadly, so like the topics are, they're 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: intense there in the intensely also educational right from the 35 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 1: standpoint of what's happening in other parts of the world, 36 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: and are He's going to talk a little bit about 37 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: some of the the places she's gone, some of the people 38 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: that she's talked to, and the growth that they're going 39 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: to be seeing globally and that intensity just to touch 40 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: on it, because I think it's super important that intensity 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: is now part of this woke American culture right. It 42 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: is part of not the subconscious, it is a part 43 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: of the conscious of young female audiences. And I think 44 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: for as you were just alluding to, for brands to 45 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: sort of miss the opportunity to not just get on 46 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: the bandwagon, but truly find a purpose within that platform. 47 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: Are He's going to talk to us about why that's 48 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: important now more than ever? So with that A hundred 49 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: emoji A hundred are you GLF, We'll be right back. 50 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: We're back in this studio at Lantia with a very 51 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: special guest, ari Wen Groff, the publisher of Broadly Advice. 52 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: Good to be here. So all right, we were just 53 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: shooting the ship a bit about your background, and you've 54 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: been at vice for about four years, right, But you 55 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: came from politics. I came from politics. I got my 56 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: start working for Governor Shumlin, who ran for office in 57 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: when all of the other Republicans one across the country. 58 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: He was one of the few Democrats that one, and 59 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: then worked for him as press secretary and worked for 60 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: the party for a long time, did some consulting, and 61 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: then ended up switching over to media. And I love 62 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: that you were just telling us like I knew that 63 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: I could create socially responsible legislation potentially if you could 64 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: get if you could get it past, and then you 65 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: started thinking about media because you felt like you could 66 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: do this in media, but at a broader, probably faster 67 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: pace level of change. Yeah. I mean, if you're lucky, 68 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: when you're working for a state house or on the hill, 69 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: you could get one two pieces of legislation done. And 70 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: in Vermont there was a lot more pressure because there's 71 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: like less than six hundred thousand people in the whole state. 72 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: So someone calls you and says this is important to me, 73 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: and you don't do it, You're going to see them 74 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: at the fair and they're going to bring it up 75 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: to you. Whereas if you wanted to do something larger 76 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: and moved to d C, especially because it was Republican 77 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: controlled Congress, there was a zero percent chance of getting 78 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: anything done. And so I wanted to move into a 79 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: space where I could actually take the same issues that 80 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: I cared about and have a larger impact. But you 81 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: had no idea who vice was, Oh my god, none, 82 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: like like the story, like a hundred percent zero clue. 83 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: Um I was. I was essentially doing all these informational 84 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: interviews and got really connected by all of these amazing women, 85 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: and it was Peggy Panosh connected me to Meglow connected 86 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: me to Ellen East and who who said when I 87 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: met with her, there's a small group of women who 88 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: look out for each other. So if you need anything, 89 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: let me know. But none of those meetings felt right. 90 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: And I got connected through a friend of mine to 91 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: the general council at Vice and literally didn't even realize 92 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: that he was a general counsel because if you look 93 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: back at my cover letter, I called him the president 94 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: CEO of a company, so clearly didn't even know who 95 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: Shane was at the time and obviously didn't think about 96 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: it seriously enough to put in the research. And I 97 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: got called in and from the time I went in 98 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: for the first meeting to two weeks later, there was 99 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: a new wall in the building and there were still 100 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: two entrances into it at a time. But it was 101 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: just crazy, like to me, it was so unlike anything 102 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: I've ever seen, and it was just attractive. Yeah, it 103 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: was attractive to feel like I could walk in and 104 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: make any stamp I wanted and that that would be 105 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: supported and and very much the philosophy of ice at 106 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: the time and still now is nothing starts with no 107 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: like I could bring anything up, I could join any meeting, 108 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: I could raise my hand. I had to raise my hand, 109 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: but I could participate. And to me, that was an 110 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: incredible structure coming from the political world where I was 111 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: always young and I could be on the fringe of 112 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: the room, but no one ever thought that I necessarily 113 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 1: should be in the room. And when you were working 114 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: at Vice at the time, there were so few people. 115 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: You were there because you were supposed to be there 116 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: and everybody was just running up a hill. Did you 117 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: question yourself when you had to raise your hand? I 118 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: think when you felt that eat, You're like, I have 119 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: something to say or was it just so open? Yes, 120 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: I definitely questioned myself, particularly because I didn't know anything 121 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: about media. Like when I look back, I spent a 122 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: long time listening first, Like, I definitely didn't put myself 123 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: out there, but when I felt comfortable to, I did, 124 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: and I started taking on side projects and working a 125 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: lot more on synergy within the company. You know, at 126 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: the time, Viceland was an idea. We didn't even have 127 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: a linear channel. But when I started to gain confidence 128 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: in that, then I just went for it. And Shane 129 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: was always supportive of me, and that I mean when 130 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: Gloria first came to the office. We're talking about Gloria 131 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: when she first came. UM, it was just supposed to 132 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: be a meeting with Shane and Gloria and Amy Richards, 133 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: who's her sort of advisor and confidant. And I said 134 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: to him, you know, I like Gloria Steinam, Can I 135 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: be in that meeting? And so I joined him. By 136 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: the end of it, Um he was like, Ari, I'll 137 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: run this with you, and then I just took it. 138 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: But it turned into a show that we made on 139 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: Viceland called Women of Cloria Steinham, which was around international 140 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: women's issues and how if we continue to silo them, 141 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: we won't move forward systemically. And that really came out 142 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: of seeing that at the time there weren't stories that 143 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: we're talking to women around in depth um international issues 144 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: in the way that I felt there should be, and 145 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: so this was kind of our view of doing that 146 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: in the vice way. So fast forwards, it's certainly the 147 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: year of the woman or women are just the whole 148 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: damn girl squad. And you find yourself as the publisher 149 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: of Broadly, Can you talk about that journey and what 150 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: the founding sort of principle principle yeah, was around the 151 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: development of that project and now it turned into a 152 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: full fledged platform. Yeah. When I was creating Women UM, 153 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: at the same time Vice was working on Broadly. And 154 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: that started because we always knew that there was a 155 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: home for women at Vice, but not enough women knew it, 156 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: and we didn't want to take like ten years or 157 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: however long it would take naturally to bring that in UM. 158 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: And so we felt like creating broadly, which is what 159 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: we believe is we don't undermine women's intelligence, we speak 160 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: to it. And so in that we decided to take 161 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,679 Speaker 1: what device do better than anyone else, and that's video, 162 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: and let's take it for women. UM. And so when 163 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: I was creating Woman, we were creating Broadly, and we 164 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: actually had Unilever as our launch partner for that. And 165 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: two and a half years later, it's still our most 166 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: successful digital launch to date. It's our second youngest audience, 167 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: most mobile UM. We've won a Lifestyle Webby for a website. 168 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: We're up for it again. So we really feel like 169 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: there's still nothing that quite compares to what we do UM. 170 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: Of course, there are other really great sites out there 171 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: for women. But it's so interesting because you know, we 172 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: call it the Year of the Woman, but some of 173 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: the stuff that's coming up just like blows my mind. 174 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: Like even the Pulitzer announcement today was by a woman, 175 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: which is the first time, and it's hundred in two 176 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: year history that that's happened woman headlining. Right when that 177 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: in the morning, I had to watch it. Everyone was unbelievable. 178 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: It was incredible. So so I think what you're you're 179 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: just bringing up is interesting that there's certainly a lot 180 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: of women's content out there, but not many things, like 181 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: Broadly Anti said, haven't been a female first platforms that 182 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: have taken off quite in the way yours has. I 183 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: think we can count on our hands a number of 184 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, female first. What do you think about the 185 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: Lenny Letter of the World, the Lily from Washington Post, 186 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: But that actually feels and I'll just I love the 187 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: Washington Post, love you, but it feels adjacent. It feels 188 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: still to the side. And I think what what I 189 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: always found it interesting about Broadly and about Lenny Lenny 190 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: is all about females. Broadly was one of the first 191 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: right that also to your point, didn't play Kate, but 192 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: but actually intrigued. Yeah, well, and that's the core of 193 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: what broadly is right, Like, we're not going to create 194 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: something where every single headline has to remind you that 195 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: you're a woman. We're going to provide value in the 196 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: content that we're making for you, and we want to 197 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: make sure that we're providing value to our audience. I think, 198 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I actually do think that that is what 199 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: teen Vogue as well is doing right now. You know, 200 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: the truth is is right now we see for broadly 201 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: women and LGBT content because truthfully, the younger generation doesn't 202 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: see gender as a huge part of their identity. You know, 203 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: it's what we're talking about in terms of the year 204 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: of the Woman, Like, the change of how we feel 205 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: we're presented as women versus young sixteen year olds is 206 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: so different. They don't see it like that. The idea 207 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: that these things adjacent, I think is a great word 208 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: live adjacent to the male dominated content. Do you think 209 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: are that that is a part of the issue, and 210 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: then that it's not this integrated thing and that you 211 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: went out and said we're going to remove female from 212 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: even the headline. We're going to create content that speaks 213 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: to a broad audience with a specific segment in mind 214 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: is a huge part of the problem. You know. One 215 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: of the things that works about broadly is that when 216 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: we grew its original Facebook audience, we did it based 217 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: off of the vice Facebook when we would be sharing 218 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: so broadly, audience isn't even percent female. It changes based 219 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: on the topic that you're talking about, and we're therefore 220 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: introducing content around and about women to men that therefore 221 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't be seeing it otherwise. And I think that's a 222 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: huge part of it, Like you're siloing out women's content 223 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: to women who already know their women and they know 224 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: what they want, and you're not telling these stories to 225 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: the men that aren't taking the time to listen. And 226 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: that's part of why they're not able to adjust. And 227 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: women have such a huge spending power, they have such 228 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: a huge consumption, right, and yet we're like these things 229 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: are so surprising to us. I think it'll be a 230 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: long time. It's going to kill some sites because they're 231 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: not adjusting fast enough. What is the conversation with advertisers. 232 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many companies out there and so 233 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: many brands who have taken on diversity, who have taken 234 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: on um female issues and female content and marketing to females. 235 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: But I'm not sure that there's systemic change, and you 236 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: can see that in some of the kind of partnerships 237 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: and conversations around partnerships. Yes, we've been lucky at Vice 238 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: that there's no compromising around the fact that we will 239 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: work with a brand to tell the best story possible 240 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: as opposed to trying to tell something that they already 241 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: think their audience knows. So, for example, we did a 242 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: partnership with Smyrnoff this year where they wanted to increase 243 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: their relevance around women, and so we noticed that only 244 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: of headliners for DJs were women, So why don't we 245 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: make a goal to double that? So we worked with them, 246 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: we worked with Spotify to do that to double that number, 247 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: and then we did a long form doc about it. 248 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: Um it actually was voted with ad Age is the 249 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: number one branded partnership this year and was nominated for 250 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: a Webby because we're telling a story. Like I always 251 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: say when I'm in brand meetings that what Vice and 252 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: what broadly does best is that in the same way 253 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: that kids will remember a song that they like because 254 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: more than like a homework assignment or a math problem 255 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: because I actually like the song. We're going to tell 256 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: a story that that kid or that young person is 257 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: going to like, and therefore they're going to internalize it 258 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: in a different way. So when we're talking to brands, 259 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: it's the same thing. It was a huge mission for 260 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: me in broadly to not um work with just a 261 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: beauty partner for our initial launch. Our initial brands, like 262 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: the brands that we work with, we have a couple 263 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: that I can't announce today but that are coming out 264 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: soon that are traditionally male focused, but we're doing a 265 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: program with them for women because they see the value 266 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: in that. But most of the time when I am 267 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: talking to brand still they will first bring up beauty fashion, 268 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: what is the broadly woman, who does she look like? 269 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: And while that's important and what her style is is important, 270 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 1: it's more important for us to talk about what she's 271 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: interested in, listening to what she wants to watch, Like 272 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: our auto and finance brands coming to you. Auto yeah, 273 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: Finance no, But I actually think finance is still such 274 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: a missed opportunity in general. Like, you know, most of 275 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: the stuff that they're doing and you'll still see it. 276 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: Most of the things that people are interested in financing 277 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: our lists. They don't really want to get into something 278 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: that they feel subversive, and anything around women is subversive 279 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: to them, right, let's be honest. And women don't want platitudes. 280 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: They want to feel like there's action around them and 281 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: for us right now. I mean, that's why we started 282 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: the Broadly Film Fund, and that actually gives brands an 283 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: opportunity if they want to make content around the films, 284 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: to actually feel like they're taking apart and empowering a 285 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: young next generation of creators. But most of the time 286 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: when you talk to them about it, everything is a 287 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: little bit too scary. Look at these female adjacent brands 288 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: around traditional or legacy media companies, Um, they've merchandized it 289 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: with the word woman or women in the headline. Can 290 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: you talk a little bit about the fundamental difference in 291 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: why you chose to go broadly um, and what sort 292 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: of the development of that platform looked like when you 293 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: were conceiving it, Like, what were the filters that you said, 294 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: this can't look like this, because if we do this, 295 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: we will just have ended up like everybody else who 296 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: is badging our content with a female lens. When we 297 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: were creating broadly, and we went through many iterations of 298 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: what the name could potentially be. We actually felt like 299 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: it was important to reclaim that word, which had previously 300 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: been seen in some ways as a negative connotation for 301 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: what uh so when we were doing broadly because we 302 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: felt like speaking to women's intelligence was at the core 303 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: of what we wanted to do. We also felt like 304 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: it had to be a journalism first sight, Like when 305 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm explaining broadly, I don't necessarily people always say to me, 306 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: what's your twenty nine rooms, right? And I really yes, 307 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: And I have to say I compare Broadly much more 308 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: often to something like a long form underground New Yorker 309 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: or I want to find those not And it's nothing 310 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: against refinery, but I think it's important that we speak 311 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: to what the other pillars of interest are to that woman, 312 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: and that's what we wanted to show. We wanted we 313 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: didn't want to make a reactive site that was reacting 314 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: to news or pop culture. We wanted to make the 315 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: news in the same way that Vice doesn't respond to 316 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: breaking news, like kindergartener's playing soccer and everyone's running after 317 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: the ball. They go and tell the story before, and 318 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: they tell it after and we reflect that in our journalism. 319 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: Um and so as as the site has evolved, we 320 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: are trying to incorporate now more of an LGBT audience 321 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: into that as well. So going back to Gloria, Gloria, Yes, 322 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: she's amazing to work with it because she's a hundred 323 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: percent herself, which is why she fit with VICE. I mean, 324 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: there's no other company still I think that would have 325 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: screen lit a show with at the time, an eighty 326 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: two year old woman that's focused on a millennial audience. 327 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: Right now, she's eighty four. At the time she was 328 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: eighty two. She's extraordinary and and in working on the show, 329 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: she was just a great compass because we knew how 330 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: to We knew how to put someone that was young 331 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: on the ground telling the story. And what we wanted 332 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: to do was to allow someone who couldn't go there 333 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: themselves to bear witness in order to create change, and 334 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: then Gloria could provide the context for what we should 335 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: be talking about. Did she feel like we've gotten further 336 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: down the road in our crusade for equality and female rights? 337 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I can't speak for her, but I 338 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: think if she were here, she would talk about the 339 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: fact that you know, she's seen many decades of progress 340 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: over time, right, and it gives you a little bit 341 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: of perspective. So even if you're having a day where 342 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: you're taking a step backward, you know that overall you've 343 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: taken ten steps forward. I mean, in the seventies, women 344 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: couldn't even have their own credit cards. So when you 345 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: put it into the context of now, we've we've made 346 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: some strides. And I interviewed her after Trump was elected. 347 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: I interviewed her at the Women's March. I said, what 348 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: do you think about this? And she said, well, at 349 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: least we're not looking upwards, We're looking at each other. 350 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: And there's this level of social consciousness that he has 351 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: brought out in all of the horrible things and conversations 352 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: that have come from it, their conversations that we didn't 353 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: think our nation had to have any more, and they do. 354 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: And Gloria has always been very present for those and 355 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: continues to be in continuous to evolve and be creative. 356 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: The conversations that you're having on broadly the social topics 357 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: that you're covering, borrowing from what has happened during Gloria's 358 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: heyday till now um how are you selecting those conversations 359 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: and how is the selection of those conversations. I won't 360 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: use the word dictated because I know it's editorial, but 361 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: in consideration with how brands are thinking about and weighing 362 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: heavily in on purpose, yeah, how are you kind of 363 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: converging those things right now? On the brand side, we've 364 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: been very conscious of not trying to talk about things 365 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: that are commonly spoken about for women. So for example, 366 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: for Vassiline, which is the power of healing, we created 367 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: a piece that was in Haiti and we worked with 368 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: a woman who used voodoo to bring in spirits to 369 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: create healing after the floods, and so we wanted to 370 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: tell that story and talk about the community and talk 371 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: about an issue there through a lens that only Vice 372 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: could with a brand that was focused in that way. 373 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: So broadly has always tried to take a little bit 374 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: of a weirder, more magical lens in that approach. For woman, 375 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: which is a bit more serious, every single pitch was 376 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: around like sex trafficking and prostitution, and we just wanted 377 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: to talk about stories that weren't being brought up every 378 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: single day. So we did femicide in El Salvador. For 379 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: the US, we did sexual assault in the U S Military. 380 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: We did a piece with Vice President Biden at the 381 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: time around sexual soul in college campuses, and then in 382 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: Canada about murdered and missing Indigenous women there. So it's 383 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: not stuff that you're going to read on CNN every day, 384 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: but stuff that is affecting large populations of people. Broadly 385 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: likes to feel that our audience that is intelligent, they're curious, 386 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: but they're very optimistic. You know, nine six percent of 387 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: women and men on our audience feel that gender equality 388 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: is important. We're not going to preach to the choir 389 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: around something, but we are going to talk about Danna Carome, 390 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: who was one of the first transgender women to win 391 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 1: a race this year in the US. We followed her 392 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: story very intimately. And how are brands reacting? All right? 393 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: Because those headlines that you just gave us are intense, 394 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: they're controversial, um in the in the marketing world, right, 395 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: So where's the balance and are you saying we're going 396 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: to print with this anyway? And brands are saying we're 397 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: either getting on board and we're supporting that because we 398 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: know that these are real and their important issues or 399 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: that's one step too far. It's so funny because I 400 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: got into publishing because I knew if I had the money, 401 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: I could make the decisions, not because I was interested 402 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: in sales. And now that I am interested in sales, 403 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: I am interested in having brands be more open to 404 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: those headlines. There are brands that are and you know, 405 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: you have like your Patagonias out there who are have 406 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: such social driven There a lot of Patagonias, No there's not, 407 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: but there's not a lot of brands that will survive 408 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: in the same way that Patagonia will, you know. And 409 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: every single brand now has to have some kind of 410 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: identity tied to what they are and who they are, 411 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: and we provide that, and we did that before a 412 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: lot of others have come around to it. So some brands, 413 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: of course freak out about that. But at the same time, 414 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: these are the issues that our audience cares about, and 415 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: so therefore they're going to see they're going to have 416 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: a very high stickiness rate, and we're not going to 417 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: do it in a way where it's not going to 418 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: work for the brand. There are many brand marketers who 419 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: listen to our show. Um many don't often get the 420 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: opportunity to sit with the publisher of a female first platform. 421 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: What would you say to them? I mean you you 422 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: know your audience best. How would you make a case 423 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: to them to say, these conversations are happening. How do 424 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: your consumers or your readers want to engage with brands 425 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: around it? I would remind the brand that two percent 426 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: of our audience believes that the social platforms that they 427 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: consume have to express their values and their belief system. 428 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: And if these brands are not willing to step to 429 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: the table, that doesn't mean go a hundred miles an hour. 430 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: You can dip your toe in the pool and you 431 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: can still participate in the platform. You know, our horoscopes 432 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: on Broadly actually has the highest returning and loyalty of 433 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: any audience on Vice overall. And so we can be 434 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: more playful. What are you guys doing around events? We're weird? Like, 435 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,239 Speaker 1: for example, we're planning right now this Broadly maze. So 436 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: the idea with the maze, I can't name the brand yet, 437 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: but it's essentially a maze where you go in and 438 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: it will have the brand designed throughout the maze, but 439 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: then you get lost and there will be like a 440 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: room with a phone that connects to another prone where 441 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: you can talk to each other, and then in the 442 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: middle there's a party. We have something called Broadly Plays, 443 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: which is concerts with up and coming female artists and 444 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: then they curate playlists and then we do a gallery 445 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: around them. Everything that we do with Broadly has to 446 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: have mentorship at its core. So even for example, we're 447 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: doing this new Artist in Residency series where we pick 448 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: up and coming artists that have big social followings. They 449 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: make content for us that lives on the site. Ultimately 450 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: they have it, but they're pushing us and we're pushing them. 451 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: I would love to see Broadly do something in the 452 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: corporate space, like corporate mentorship. I hate mentorship the term term, 453 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: but coaching, yeah, well know for sure. I mean of 454 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: men feel like they're ready for their next job and 455 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: women do so. Can I tell you what an amazing anecdote? 456 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: So I went to go speak to a group of 457 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: young women at a local high school around topics for 458 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 1: women um relative to International Women's Day and the celebration 459 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: of careers. And as a part of that, there was 460 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: a group of panelists that included everything from doctors to 461 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: lawyers to entrepreneurs in the sense of women who own 462 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: barbershops went on a photography studio, and yours truly as 463 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: somebody who was representing women in business, and as a 464 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: part of the discussion. At the very end, we were, 465 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: you know, asking the young girls what do you want 466 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,239 Speaker 1: to be when you grow up? And it went from 467 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: everything from chemical engineers and astronauts to music teachers and 468 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: to public servants and everything in between. At the very end, 469 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: when the young girls were invited to come up and 470 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, ask any final questions to pictures over the 471 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: case was it was like the parting of the Red seay. 472 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: Half the group went over to the attorney and the 473 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: other half went over to the doctors, and I was 474 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: standing in the middle, part stroking my ego, part trying 475 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: to figure out what has happened. It was very apparent 476 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: to me, as I reflected back on a few minutes prior, 477 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: that not one young woman in the audience said they 478 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: wanted to be a CEO, they wanted to run a company, 479 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: they wanted to be a badass in a boardroom. It's 480 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: just it was very apparent that that wasn't a path 481 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: that they thought was available to them. And after speaking 482 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: with a couple of the guidance counselors after it dawned 483 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: on me that there is such a lack of acknowledgment 484 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: or example setting in the market for young women to 485 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: think about this as an opportunity for them. Oftentimes they're 486 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: brought into that sphere of possibility in college and at 487 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: that point it's too late. Well, I don't even think 488 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: growing up, I knew what a CEO meant, Like, what 489 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: does it mean? You know? I think that is a 490 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: big piece of it, Like the education of it is 491 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: really in any job, what is finance? What would you 492 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 1: do on a day to day basis? I think in 493 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: our industry and media, That's why I'm so excited about 494 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: the Broadley Film Program, because when you're looking at women 495 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: who are in the film industry or TV, there's this 496 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: fiscal cliff around what they can do. Only eight percent 497 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: of top grossing directors were women. Most of the time. 498 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: They're coming in and they're directing TV shows which are 499 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: paid substantially less, and then you've got one gig and 500 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: not many people are going to see it, right, So 501 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,479 Speaker 1: there has to be actually a better relationship to get 502 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 1: into the door where you have a lasting career with 503 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: a mentor who's really been successful, and we put so 504 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: much pressure on women's success in any category. Right now, 505 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: it's a multigenerational plan. Would you guys do this with business? Yeah? Percent, 506 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: And we're actually offering and we're working. We're going to 507 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: be working with a bunch of different brands actually around 508 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: content that will be made with some of the directors. 509 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: So I want for every single brand that wants to 510 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: do anything around the Broadley Film Fund, they have to 511 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: hire that emerging director to actually shoot the spot for it. 512 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: These are the conversations that we're missing. There is no community, 513 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: there is no content. There is no brand that is 514 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: standing up a platform that says, at the age of 515 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,959 Speaker 1: thirty in fourteen fifteen, sixteen years old, you can be 516 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: a CEO. This is where the online offline thing gets interesting. 517 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: Well then yes, then you start getting into like local 518 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: community that I r L is broadly getting into business 519 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: a thing. Yeah, I mean blisten Like, we're focusing so 520 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: much of it around film right now. We actually have 521 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: a course that was based on women that's at usc Annenberg. 522 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: It's called Creating Change through Media. We're going to show 523 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: all of their videos and content that they make on 524 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: the Broadly site and get them started in the two 525 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: years old but Broadly business, Yeah for sure. I mean 526 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: I actually we start funding. Like I literally had a 527 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: conversation last week on Friday with someone from another media 528 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: company that I can't say right now, but we're actually 529 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: going to be doing a jobs fair together because there 530 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: are all of these young people, especially young women and 531 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: young queer people, who make less money than everybody else. 532 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: But I also find it fascinating that most in real 533 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: life events that happened with different publishers and media platforms 534 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: are aimed towards older women, even when they're speaking to 535 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: younger women. Therefore, people who can pay an ex urban 536 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: an amount to get tickets, and there for sponsors who 537 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: are sending ten people from that company to attend and 538 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: congrat generally congratulate each other for being there. It's very 539 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: rare that you have someone that comes forward and says, 540 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: I'd like to do something and provide an opportunity for 541 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: these young people where they don't have to pay anything, 542 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: but they can just come and learn. You know. I 543 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: was meeting with Delaney tar who was one of the 544 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: Parkland survivors. It was a very strange, very short meeting 545 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: in DVF studio like a few weeks ago, and I 546 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: was chatting with her and she was talking about social media, 547 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: and I was really taken aback by the fact that 548 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: she found Twitter to be a safe space and was like, listen, 549 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: I grew up at a time when social media was 550 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: new and it was really seen as something that is 551 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: for bullying and hate, and there's so much fear within 552 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: that um and we still see that in conversations we 553 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: have all time and with brands, and she was talking 554 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: about how no, it's a place where I can find 555 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: my community and anybody that has anything negative to say 556 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: to me, like fuck them, their haters. And this young 557 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: generation that she's sixteen seventeen, they don't think even about 558 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: platforms in the same way that we do, right in 559 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: the same way that like the tribe, whereas the tribe, 560 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: our audience that comes to broadly believes in body positivity 561 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: and sexual freedoms. Like we have a column called Our 562 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: First Time and that's all about different things around sex 563 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: and sexual education, and there's all of the stigma you know, 564 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: actually when we talk about words that are brand safe 565 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: and not brand safe, that's around sexual health and then 566 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: and that's really like an underserved topic that we have 567 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: our audience that comes to UM politics and then our 568 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: third largest one is actually around health. So what's next? Like, 569 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: as you're kind of venturing into this film space as 570 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: your event imagining your event world, you know what is 571 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: the future broadly in the next twelve eighteen months look 572 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: like to you, we'll be expanding more into product in merchandise, 573 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: and on top of that, we'll be making some some 574 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: m and a some march. I'll send it to you 575 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: when it's ready. I also think that the Middle East 576 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: opening up is a fascinating commercial space and speaking there, 577 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,719 Speaker 1: I was just speaking in Riad and Saudi Arabia at 578 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,959 Speaker 1: the Women Economic Forum. I spoke about increasing women and 579 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: content pipeline and and there was young young girls who 580 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: are very excited to be creating stories. You know, young 581 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: people in Saudi are the number one consumers of YouTube. 582 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: And that is happening because in the world, Yes, and 583 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: that's happening because they are sitting there and they're hungry 584 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: for good content. They have a high scripted is it news? 585 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: Is everything just content? You have to think about the 586 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: fact that Saudi right now has a really high unemployment rate, 587 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of time, and they have their phones 588 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: open to snapchat constantly. I mean I literally was photo 589 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: bombing as much as I could when I was at 590 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: the conference for that um And there's one point two 591 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: billion Muslim people in the world and there's not that 592 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: many commercial opportunities that are reaching them. So I actually, 593 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: on top of that, we're going to be doing a 594 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: summit that's going to be here in New York that's 595 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: essentially going to take the Women's Economic Forum and bring 596 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: all of the top women in the Middle East to 597 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: New York and have it so that brands can actually 598 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: meet and interact with them in top think lead there's 599 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: here because most people aren't don't even know that they exist, 600 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: and they have more money than everybody else. I mean, 601 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: if you look at what Dubai is doing, they're essentially 602 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: making like a Noah's Ark of young smart people over there, 603 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: and they're saying come here and no taxes, we'll take 604 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: care of you and we'll find your projects. And they're 605 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: doing that with females. Yeah. Yeah. The UAE actually has 606 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: more women in their cabinet than the United States does, 607 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: and senior positions in our do do you see broadly 608 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: getting into any form of like I don't know, like 609 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: influencing legislation more directly, Yeah, broadly actually has We're going 610 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: to be doing something this year for the mid terms 611 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: which is called the Next Female President, and it's going 612 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: around the country and actually talking to all of these 613 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: different young people and not in cities, in rural areas 614 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: around what issues they care about and why they want 615 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: to run or what they would want to see change. 616 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: And so we're working with organizations like Emily's List and 617 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: she should run to work with them on that. And 618 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: then they're specific legislation that we cover in the same 619 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: way that Vice Impact, which is our global response to 620 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: the issues that our audience cares about. We'll focus different 621 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: campaigns we do that with broadly around certain legislation. Of course, 622 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: for us, anything that's around abortion or access to reproductive 623 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: rights is always our biggest is shoe interesting to see 624 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: this young cohort, the fourteen to twenty two year old 625 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: a dreams that you just talked about have gone from 626 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: like Saturdays at the movies to like Saturdays of marching 627 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: and like this active collective you know, migration around you know, 628 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: to your point around Delaney tar like, I'm galvanizing my 629 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: community Monday through Friday, and then we're hitting the streets 630 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: and we're advocating for change, and we will come out 631 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: and vote you out, you know, and if and you 632 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: see that immediate reaction. Now though a brand or a person. 633 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: We were just talking before this about Starbucks what happened 634 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: over the weekend, and the CEO is there in fl 635 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: Philly right now, there is no tolerance. How are you 636 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: leveraging the power of vice to scale this message? Now? 637 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: You talked about be ready for our audience to grow significantly. Um, 638 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: given that you're on the heels of being in the room. 639 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: How many countries vices? And yeah, I mean what well 640 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: we have offices in thirty six. How are you leveraging 641 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: that though, are because that, I think is that huge 642 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: advantage for Broadly to go big for sure. I actually 643 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: think that's one of the most exciting things about Vice 644 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: and that's where the Broadly film's fun idea came from. 645 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: Is when when we're in other territories, particularly where they 646 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: haven't had a strong history of gender equality, we have 647 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: to make sure that they're not just franchises, they're fully 648 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: part of our Vice ecosystem at home and that we're 649 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: building a family wherever we go and in some of 650 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: these places, like for what we're doing an a pack, 651 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: like in Indonesia and India like these have some of 652 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: the highest number of young people in the world, and 653 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: they have not had access to great content, particularly because 654 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: it's been really hard to do it, and because VICE 655 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: can be in other countries and actually come from a 656 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: space where you're talking more about culture, and people don't realize, 657 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: particularly the governments, that news is sliding underneath that always. 658 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: So there's been a ton of change Advice in the 659 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: last year. How has broadly or has broadly had more 660 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: of a voice even in your internal cultural change? Yeah, 661 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we have to recognize that VICE 662 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: has had some challenges over the last few months and 663 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: is committed to making our company the safest and most 664 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: progressive workplace, not even just in the industry, but in 665 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: the world, particularly because we are serving so many people 666 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: around the world. You know, we have over five thousand 667 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: employees and I think it's over over of those employees 668 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: have joined the company in the last two years. So 669 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: it's been incredible growth um and we were doing some 670 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: things like committing to pay parity in creating our d 671 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: n I board from its inception broadly has had a 672 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: zero tolerance for bullshit. So when there are issues that 673 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: come to the forefront as a channel, it always covers them. 674 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: It's done a lot of work around me too and 675 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: sexual harassment and trying to create progressive legislation, and you know, 676 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: the list goes on and on. I think internally, we've 677 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: had an incredible group of women, uh and allies at 678 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: VICE that have come together and through this, actually, I 679 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: think we've created a lot more structured internal communications and 680 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: processes where they are having a say, are part of 681 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: the conversation, They are aware of the day to day 682 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: and they are committed to helping secure Vice's future, not 683 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: only for themselves but for the next generation of talent 684 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: that are coming in. All right, now the time. Now 685 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: you can do your damn d I y okay, uh, alright, Well, 686 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: I hope this doesn't sound corny, but I would kill 687 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: the idea to advertisers that women are a niche audience 688 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: or need to be siloed as a community. I had 689 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: someone tell me once that women were an underserved community. 690 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: I was just horrified. Um, So I would kill that 691 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: like so fast. Um, for By, I wouldn't buy anything 692 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: right now. I would wait six months and let the 693 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: duopolya Facebook and Google play its hand, and then when 694 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: media companies are cheaper, I would buy them. She's super savvy. 695 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: May I should follow your your investment stress and for 696 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: d I y what you were talking about earlier. I 697 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: would do a version of Girls who Code, specifically around 698 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: educating young women for finance and business skills. Oh, let's 699 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: do it. I think that's something we would very much 700 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: like to particel. Let's do it listening. Yeah, we're ready 701 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: to make, ready to fund it. Fund come on board. 702 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: So if there was one thing you would want to 703 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: leave the community with, whether it is about vice broadly 704 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: or women in general, what is the biggest misnomer in 705 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: your mind in that you plan to address on broadly? 706 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: I would a dent say that nothing is off the 707 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: table in terms of what you think is brand safe 708 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 1: and not brand safe. Being a woman is a fully 709 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: encompassing thing. Women are challenging and difficult, but they are people, 710 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: and therefore people are challenging it difficult and um our 711 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: audience will only continue to grow, So should ride the 712 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 1: wave with us. Thanks, If people want to reach you, 713 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: where can they find you? They can email me Ari 714 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: A r I at vice dot com or all my 715 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: handles are just a when Groff. Thank you, Ari so much, 716 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: so fun having you in this video. Big thanks to 717 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: our new producer, Laura Morris. How fun is it to 718 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: have an all female cast? It's fun and kind of 719 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: torturous for me that now they are to Laura's so 720 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: thank you. To all of our friends and family, a 721 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: panoply Matt Turk, Andy Bowers, Jacob Weisberg. We'll be back 722 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: with an all new episode in two weeks. M H 723 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: Full disclosure. Our opinions are our own