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Speaker 1: Okay, then tell them to shut down production. And I

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Speaker 1: And that's because you are the beneficiary.

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Speaker 5: I don't see you making the phone call.

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Speaker 5: My feeling is this Griffin. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I make

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Speaker 6: Have some some portion of this money be used to

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Speaker 2: Kevin, can you go through the financials?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 6: Let's see what the what they're attributing the funds towards.

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Speaker 1: They're all at the top, So I don't know why

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Speaker 1: There you go, kickstart. No lower than that, lower than

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Speaker 4: Kevin, don't read the url. We know what site we're on.

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Speaker 3: Come on, help help us finish our documentary film.

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Speaker 3: US dollars signed twenty six thousand and sixty three pledged

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Speaker 1: We're at twenty six thousand, sixty three with how many

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Speaker 5: Days to go to go.

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Speaker 6: We have a minimum eleven thousand dollars sort of slush

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Speaker 1: In this studio. They're gonna have to be they have

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Speaker 6: for you guys. And I think there's a rather elegant solution.

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Speaker 6: Staring us in the face.

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Speaker 4: Will you write down a little bit, Kevin, No, No,

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Speaker 5: So I believe and keep going.

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Speaker 6: What I've seen in terms of the costs that this

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Speaker 4: They just legal and even hiring have handled all of this. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: So can we have that?

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Speaker 1: They look and yeah, you in particular, this movie needs

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Speaker 1: a publicist. But the movie Disenchanted does it need one?

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Speaker 5: Right? You do? Is for Disenchanted?

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, Bob Chapek didn't sign a big

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Speaker 6: like they're going to get a publicist like well, shouldn't

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Speaker 6: we have that? You got eleven thousand for books? How

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Speaker 6: much is for that? I gotta I gotta say, you

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Speaker 4: That's the other thing, right, because Chapek beautiful Bob called

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Speaker 5: I didn't realize these guys were rolling in it. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Afraid of this. You know, there were two scenarios. Neither

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Speaker 5: Mmm, not the case.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 6: Second, possibly more villainous, is that Connor is keeping this

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Speaker 5: Whereas he's show electric in the room. You will follow

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Speaker 4: But then you start to question, Wait a second, do

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Speaker 6: Well, you look at his post for this kickstart. It's

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Speaker 4: I did, by chance, just happened to catch mo Rider's rocker.

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Speaker 5: All my friends have a rider.

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Speaker 5: What do I have to die?

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Speaker 4: He has that carve out in his contract that he

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Speaker 6: So we've got this is disturbing, and so that's who's

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Speaker 5: Doesn't it feel like a zero sum games?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, truly everyone but me. It feels like he's

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Speaker 5: Know, yeah, sure, one for them, one for you, right, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was playing the game and everyone's talking about all

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Speaker 1: Well, we can talk about like other other sort of

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Speaker 1: put that over there. Sure, su There's also Kevin has

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Speaker 4: Oh really, Kevin, tell me about this?

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Speaker 1: So sure, Well, I just want to say all we

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Speaker 1: I don't think we have asked a single question about what.

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Speaker 1: It has been promoted to me via Kevin texts which

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Speaker 6: You know. Yes, that's what I say updates about the

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Speaker 1: And he's going to put the first part, so that's

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 5: YouTube?

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Speaker 6: Get anyone can get a little taste of this big

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Speaker 1: It's going to be on Kevin And so two is

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Speaker 1: Part two is going to be on the Patreon feed,

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Speaker 3: I've been hanging out a lot. I've been hanging out

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's also all about using steaks to hammer other

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Speaker 4: I ask is this part of a sort of larger

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Speaker 3: If it blows, then I'll say it was a one

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Speaker 3: If the people say this is one of the best

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Speaker 5: It's actually the first chapter of a trilogy.

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Speaker 5: I always saw it as a trilogy. He'll say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: He bought a he bought a nice new camera. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I guess like we're trying to figure out an incentive

449
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Speaker 1: structure for him like if.

450
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Speaker 2: We if we were reward.

451
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Speaker 1: This kind of like self directed energy and initiative that

452
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Speaker 1: he's taking, uh, with a bonus of some kind.

453
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Speaker 5: Maybe maybe I don't want to, you know, but there's.

454
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Speaker 3: A lot of people involved, a lot of mouse to

455
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Speaker 3: feed with this big video project.

456
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Speaker 4: Chriff, Yeah, you know, I will I will say I've

457
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Speaker 4: noticed that that that Kevin is looking more resplendent than

458
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Speaker 4: I've ever seen him. Yeah, but he's but he's also

459
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 4: he's covered in bubbles and jewels. It's distracting more than

460
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 4: he's truly glowing. Uh, you know, I mean, you guys

461
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 4: are asking me, you know, hey, can you throw me

462
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Speaker 4: the eleven thousand dollars? Where's the eleven thousand dollars? Why

463
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 4: don't we have a piece of that? And I'm beside, yeah,

464
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Speaker 4: while we discuss sure, well that, but but Patrick's monitoring

465
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Speaker 4: that bucket. And I wonder if there's a similar thing

466
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Speaker 4: going on here with with Kevin, you know, m Suddenly

467
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Speaker 4: he's got all this money for this big video project,

468
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Speaker 4: and he's asking for more funding for the video project,

469
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Speaker 4: and meanwhile the haircuts are getting more frequent.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm told that this this latest request is is

471
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Speaker 6: just for the video project's finishing costs.

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Speaker 4: Finish heavou do you mind? Can you would you mind

473
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Speaker 4: breaking down.

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Speaker 5: What uh those those what are the finishing the money

475
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Speaker 5: raised will go towards what what exactly?

476
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Speaker 4: Because finishing when I hear finishing funds, I think of

477
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Speaker 4: like final mix on an edit, things like that, you know,

478
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Speaker 4: color timing, things like that. Sometimes you see a Kickstarter

479
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Speaker 4: advertising finishing funds for a movie that seems to be

480
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Speaker 4: one hundred percent complete, and then you read through the

481
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Speaker 4: description find out that instead it's for things like legal

482
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Speaker 4: threes and hiring a publicist and festival applicabist, festival travel

483
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Speaker 4: the festival.

484
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Speaker 6: I'm buying your plane tickets to go attend the festival.

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Speaker 5: That I guess you got into things.

486
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Speaker 4: That no longer sound like finishing fees and more like

487
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Speaker 4: uh self promotional opportunities.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, I've seen this as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, So, Kevin Wou, do you mind explaining what

490
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Speaker 4: the finishing feeds are for this video project?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 6: But first I'll say insurance. I know that was part

493
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Speaker 6: of the kickstarter we read. Don't say insurance because I

494
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Speaker 6: know that's paying yourself, ensuring you got fucking a ten

495
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Speaker 6: spot in your pocket.

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Speaker 4: That's the only sure ring Daddy can run his little yeah,

497
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Speaker 4: ensuring the rose never stops flowing at the costa bartlet Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 4: uh huh.

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Speaker 1: Bartlett being of course the spanishiation of of course.

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Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah. I'd like to start with a little joke.

501
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Speaker 3: Finishing is funds.

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Speaker 4: That is little, it's tiny, bare observable, though sizes a

503
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Speaker 4: good size is subjective.

504
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Speaker 3: But we have a big pizza plan with all of

505
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Speaker 3: the talent after the.

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Speaker 2: You're planning way, I just want to make this very clear.

507
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Speaker 2: You are planning. You are planning a very big pizza.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you didn't say planning a pizza party. The plan

509
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Speaker 5: is to get to get or to we need to

510
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Speaker 5: acquire pizza. Okay, you're plan.

511
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Speaker 3: Playing a huge pizza for the crew and talent that's

512
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Speaker 3: working on it. I need a lot of my big

513
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Speaker 3: pizzas expensive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it is, like I do think for scale

515
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Speaker 1: it is actually responsible because like, rather than getting a

516
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Speaker 1: ton of little pizzas, like each of those that cost

517
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Speaker 1: is more expensive than like a like a really big

518
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Speaker 1: pizza at scale.

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Speaker 4: The outside of the crust is the most expensive part,

520
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 4: that's right. So if you make a lot of little pizzas.

521
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Speaker 4: You have to keep on making that over and over

522
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Speaker 4: again rather making it once but really really big.

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Speaker 6: Whenever I see a little pizza, I just gotta roll

524
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Speaker 6: my eyes because I say, look, you give me a

525
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Speaker 6: big pizza, I'll make fifty of those.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. It's just it's absurd.

527
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Speaker 4: It's absurd, it's it's offensive, it's insulting.

528
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Speaker 6: When I find a menu with like a personal pizza off,

529
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Speaker 6: I cross it out. I take it very personal because

530
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Speaker 6: they're implying that I wouldn't be able to craft a

531
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Speaker 6: regular size adult pizza into a section small enough to

532
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Speaker 6: enjoy in one sitting.

533
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Speaker 4: Some people say, I've heard this said pizza in though. Yeah,

534
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 4: pizza in the morning, pizza in the evening, pizza for

535
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Speaker 4: supper time, when pizza's on a bagel. You can have

536
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Speaker 4: pizza anytime. And I've always felt like, well, yeah, you

537
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 4: need to have pizza every time. If they're that fucking tiny,

538
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 4: you're not gonna get You're it's scratched. If you're giving

539
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Speaker 4: me tiny, microscopic bagel pizzas, yeah, I'll have them every

540
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Speaker 4: fucking hours times.

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Speaker 6: We basically go every minute of the day because the

542
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Speaker 6: fucking pizza is so small.

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Speaker 1: You can have it any time, especially given like the

544
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Speaker 1: cost per unit. It's just like when when pizzas fifty

545
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Speaker 1: feet in diameter, you can have pizza anytime, Right, that's.

546
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Speaker 4: Accurate because I think they're only maybe eight per box.

547
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 4: And then it says like serving size half a box,

548
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 4: and so it's like.

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Speaker 5: Are you telling me it to have one an hour?

550
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 5: Are you telling me to by the way, the box

551
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 5: as well, that's honestly me full. That's the thing.

552
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 4: If you don't eat the box, my friend, you're gonna

553
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 4: have a lot of free space in that Telly.

554
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Speaker 1: Serves it is half a box. Kevin, how many people

555
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Speaker 1: who's involved in this project? Just so we know, like

556
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Speaker 1: how big a pizza is being is being planned here?

557
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Speaker 5: What kind of talents do we have attached?

558
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Speaker 1: Four?

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Speaker 2: Four people? I said, what people are involved in this project?

560
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Speaker 5: And we want name?

561
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Speaker 2: Your response is four people?

562
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Speaker 4: We want the fantastic four answer.

563
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Speaker 3: My friends Harry and Sarah. Darius is going to make

564
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Speaker 3: his debut. My friend Carry and Sarah, I've never Oh

565
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Speaker 3: just the way sweetie big on change of this damn town.

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Speaker 2: Okay, in what capacity are they working on the project? Yeah?

567
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Speaker 5: What's their role?

568
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Speaker 3: I don't want to spoil things. They're kind of the stars,

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Speaker 3: so they their talent.

570
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Speaker 4: Who's who's below the line on this thing?

571
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Speaker 3: I we don't really have it below the line. Everyone's

572
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 3: kind of above the line. I guess I'm below.

573
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Speaker 2: So you don't have a line. What you actually don't

574
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Speaker 2: have is a line.

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Speaker 5: There is no line line.

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Speaker 3: There's gonna be a lot of that.

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Speaker 5: Is this one of.

578
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Speaker 4: These like fucking like Joe Swanberg movies where at the

579
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Speaker 4: end the directed by credit is eighteen people because he's.

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Speaker 1: Kevin's been calling it. Kevin's been calling it a Joe

581
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Speaker 1: Duckberg movie.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to get Ben to actually help me with it.

584
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Speaker 3: Blank Chuck producer Ben, I texted.

585
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Speaker 4: Him, as he is a producer.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought you were saying Ben Schwartz because Hayes

587
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 6: brought up duck Bird, and I know that he's involved

588
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 6: the Tails. He actually grew up on that, and so

589
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 6: I was thinking, Okay, maybe he's got some other Ducktails

590
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 6: people coming in for this Joe Duckberg production.

591
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 4: Also, if you could get Schwartz attached, this thing is

592
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 4: gonna have a lot of heat around.

593
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: To tweet, you would be here if he could get

594
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: like like like a portion of a tweet from Ben

595
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: Schwartz saying that he that he saw this movie and

596
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: it was so fucking funny.

597
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 4: I'm not even allowed to tweet my own ship anymore.

598
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 4: I can't tweet myself. I would I would kill for Schwartz,

599
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 4: tweet die for that. He couldn't get tagged anymore. But no, couldn't, couldn't,

600
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Speaker 4: couldn't get tagged. Tag a dead account, no link, I

601
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Speaker 4: mean you know, I mean, yeah, no, no.

602
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Speaker 6: Just the irony is that, you know, his handles rejected jokes,

603
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 6: but it's more like accepted films. Because if you want

604
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Speaker 6: to get into a festival, I mean, one tweet from

605
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 6: that account is basically it's going to be like co on.

606
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Speaker 4: It's also the thing about the South Fork By. The

607
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 4: thing about Swartzy is he is the of our time

608
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 4: in many ways, and he's so selective about the work

609
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 4: he does and when he chooses to speak publicly, he's

610
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 4: so private that anything he says or does carries so

611
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 4: much weight because you're like, wow, he really has to

612
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 4: feel strongly about this if he got off the couch

613
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 4: for this.

614
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Speaker 1: One Kevin, and so Kevin is demonstrating a little bit

615
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: of his film knowledge here, which is actually like, it's

616
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Speaker 1: making me feel a little more confident in he's done

617
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: his research. Uh, okay, So you have Harry and Sarah

618
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Speaker 1: on camera.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is one of my best friends. He's gonna he's

620
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Speaker 3: gonna have a role in it. And my friend Christian

621
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Speaker 3: has a role in it.

622
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Speaker 2: Possibly.

623
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Speaker 3: I haven't asked him yet, but hopefully he says yes,

624
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Speaker 3: because we're filming it a little bit of it at

625
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Speaker 3: Forever Dog Studios. Brett Bowham. I want to see if

626
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 3: he can. I have a little page for him, make

627
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Speaker 3: a little cameo.

628
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Speaker 4: You said, pending offer to producer Ben Hansley. He's got

629
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Speaker 4: a pending offer.

630
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Speaker 3: He's got He's got two texts in in his phone

631
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Speaker 3: right now and uh, praying he sees those.

632
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, you should go through reps. He doesn't usually respond,

633
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 4: Yeah you should.

634
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 5: You're gonna you're.

635
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: Gonna want to go to the proper channels exactly. Yeah,

636
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: it just want to get protocol.

637
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and Kevin, you'll learn this. You'll learn this, Kevin.

638
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 5: But even when you're.

639
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Speaker 4: Working with friends, when you're in the big time, you

640
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 4: got to go through the proper channels. Of course, you

641
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 4: could always just text and say, hey, yeah, do you

642
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 4: want to do me a favor? But it's so much

643
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: better if it's a straight offer, saying I think we

644
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 4: spoiled a little.

645
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 6: Bit, Kevin, because we've been letting you schedule the podcast

646
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 6: by texting us directly.

647
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Speaker 7: But you you sometimes, yeah, not usually, but but we've

648
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Speaker 7: never we've never made it as big an issue as

649
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 7: it should be.

650
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 5: And I think maybe.

651
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,239
Speaker 6: I take responsibility for some of your bad habits at

652
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Speaker 6: this point.

653
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 4: This might be a good moment to change that. Actually,

654
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 4: this might be a moment to set the new protocol

655
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 4: of if you want to call schedule switchboard.

656
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 6: When you want to, when you want to find out

657
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 6: if I'm available for a Griffin pro version, et cetera.

658
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, pizza, big ass pizza. That's one of the things.

659
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 3: I'm getting it in a little bit of hot water

660
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 3: because I have twenty five pages and I'm only halfway done,

661
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 3: and so people are like, that's a lot of script.

662
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if I want.

663
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Speaker 5: To do that pages of what.

664
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Speaker 4: The more you describe this, the less understanding I have

665
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 4: over what it is.

666
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Speaker 3: Twenty five pages of me pouring my heart out.

667
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Speaker 5: BG.

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Speaker 3: It so twenty five pages of that it's mostly me, fortunately,

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Speaker 3: and so I said, guys, relax.

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Speaker 5: What fortunately for who?

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Speaker 3: For my fellow cast members, so they don't have to

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Speaker 3: memorize twenty five pages of RIP.

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Speaker 4: Said, yeah, it sounds like they're gonna love just watching

674
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Speaker 4: you act.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

676
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 3: I said, guys, don't worry, this is mostly me, and

677
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: I could tell they weren't happy. So I caved and said,

678
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: what what if we all go to Disneyland after after

679
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: we film?

680
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 4: So I promised part of the finishing, a two am

681
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 4: trip to Disneyland, belly full of whatever fucked up pizza

682
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 4: you can coct.

683
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 6: Watching you monologue and nothingness for half the day. What

684
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 6: a fucking dream job for Sari and Harrah.

685
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: So big pizza, like five tickets to Disney flash passes?

686
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 1: What do you think we can get to? Subscription wise?

687
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: Like like what what? What do you think is like

688
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: a fair incentive for you? For you, for the certain

689
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: for a certain number, it stops from releasing this.

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00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 3: Yes, I would say one number five.

691
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: Five new subscribers. They subscribe to five hundred, but.

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00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 4: Five hundred, well you well, let's to be fair, Kevin,

693
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 4: You said, I'm gonna say one number.

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00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 5: You said five, and then.

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00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 3: You sat I didn't finished. Sorry, I think there was

696
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: a zoom delay on my end.

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00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 6: We're at sixty two fifty five right now.

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00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 5: What if we made it to sixty five hundred, A

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00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 5: clean sixty five.

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Speaker 1: I love that sixty five hundred. By when when is

701
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: this coming out?

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00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: This is probably going.

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00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 3: To probably going to come out December nineteenth, So maybe New.

704
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: Year's Eve December nineteenth.

705
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: That's December nineteenth, but that time of year is popping

706
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: for new context releases.

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00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 3: I've never I've never done something like this before. And

708
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: the advice I've been getting is, buddy, you're gonna be

709
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 3: in the editing bay for a damn long time. So

710
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: we're filming at December first. I figure I'd give myself

711
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: three weeks to like two and a half weeks to

712
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: get in the lab cut this ship together.

713
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 4: Okay, I got some bad news for you, buddy.

714
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 6: Oh no, something else coming out that day. Don't tell

715
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 6: me that the finishing funds for the George Lucas No

716
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 6: documentary will be ready.

717
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 4: I believe Kevin has put himself directly up against the

718
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 4: release of Avatar The Way of Water. Oh no, and

719
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 4: that thing's gonna be a fucking buzzsaw.

720
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: Man, get a calendar, dude, and the probably.

721
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 5: They're swimming on the hurt wails.

722
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 3: It comes out on a Monday, Jim Big Jim does

723
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 3: whatever the fuck he wants.

724
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: He'll come out.

725
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 4: He wants to come out, beautiful block. Please don't mix

726
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 4: it up.

727
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 3: Okay, well maybe he could come out a different day.

728
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 5: I gotta put on you guys.

729
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 4: I got a little pitch quickly because I mean, you

730
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 4: guys are talking about I mean, I feel like we've

731
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 4: been we've been dancing around of similar topics here, right, Uh,

732
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 4: Kevin's allocation of money, Patrick's allocation of money, this Kickstarter

733
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 4: slush fund, all these sorts of things, and and sort

734
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 4: of the difference between your your paid subscribers and your

735
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 4: your main feed free wheelers and all of this, and

736
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 4: it sounds like, you know, you're you're paid subscribers. It's

737
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 4: not that they have more money, it's that they're more

738
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 4: discerning with their money. It's sort of uh, you know, ethical,

739
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 4: responsible people paying to go green, you know, are vegan,

740
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 4: which isn't going to save you money, but it's going

741
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 4: to pay back in terms of lifespan, you know, and

742
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 4: what you give back to the world and all of this, I.

743
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 5: Could do a quick metaphor for it.

744
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 6: Please as if they please, the paid subscribe to people

745
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 6: behind the paywall are taking a post quital shower.

746
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 4: Well, because the following exactly okay, yes, good, okay, yeah,

747
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 4: no same. You don't want your Dick's brand all over

748
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 4: the place. But but I think the thing to do here,

749
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 4: and well, sure, I guess you do whatever makes you happy.

750
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 4: If we can kill a couple of birds.

751
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 6: Me.

752
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 4: We need to stop Kevin from releasing this thing, right

753
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 4: if we can sign from making it in the first place.

754
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 5: All the time this for so long.

755
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: You guys need to negotiating process like he knows exactly

756
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: what he's doing.

757
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 4: No, we got we got to stop this from happening.

758
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 4: I saw an incredible new Patreon tier. I was I

759
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 4: was scanning other pages on the tron and I saw

760
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 4: a new incentive, a new tier that I thought was

761
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 4: so smart, And I think you guys could institute this

762
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 4: and it would it would blow up huge free. You

763
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 4: get a lot of new subscribers paying a lot more

764
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 4: money per uh. This is a podcast I saw recently

765
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 4: added a fifteen thousand.

766
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 5: Dollars tier.

767
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 4: And the reward is be a guest on the show. Now,

768
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 4: what I think is smart about this is it's really

769
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 4: going to improve the quality of the show. Some people

770
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 4: might think this sounds like a craven take advantage of

771
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 4: our listeners, milk them for all they got, Well, the

772
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 4: Gedton's good kind of thing. But I think who is

773
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 4: going to make for a better guess than the person

774
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 4: who has fifteen thousand dollars to waste on a podcast appearance.

775
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 5: And so any of our gets fifteen thousand dollars to

776
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 5: rub together. Yeah, the show.

777
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 6: I mean the ease with which they would guess on

778
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 6: the show, you know, the comfort they would have would

779
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 6: allow christ comedy to really be foregrounded in a way

780
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 6: that it.

781
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 5: Never is it.

782
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 4: They'd probably be your funniest listeners, I'd imagine, And it's

783
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 4: it's restorative. It feeds back into it. You're letting the

784
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 4: funniest listeners pay the most money to make the show funnier,

785
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 4: which in turn gets people loving the show more, paying

786
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 4: more money, and and stops Kevin's film from going up

787
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 4: against Avatar at the box office.

788
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 1: I can see this working out the tiers on your feed.

789
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: The guest appears on your show. Oh, bucket can stick,

790
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,959
Speaker 1: Pat's bucket can stay where?

791
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 2: Over there where it is? He's sort of hovering over

792
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: it still.

793
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, guarding squatting over it.

794
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 2: Money goes to Kevin.

795
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 7: Yes.

796
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 6: Uh.

797
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: The file goes downloaded on a hard drive deleted from

798
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: Kevin's laptop. Hard drive goes into a toilet in jail.

799
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

800
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a straight buy out. We're looking at here, Kevin.

801
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 4: We're looking at a straight buyout.

802
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 5: Let just drop it in the jail toilet.

803
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 4: We're gonna jail toilet your.

804
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 3: Movie can I can I have?

805
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 5: Can I do one? Sort of being in movie jail?

806
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: And this goes out, and this goes we take the

807
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: paywall off this, and we take the paywall off. This

808
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: grey wall comes off this episode and this is this

809
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: is going away in five four three two.

810
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: I'll do it, Thank you, great, great, that's good.

811
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 4: By five second clowndown clock always works, Hollywood, Hamburg