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Speaker 1: Thank you for you coming back. Part two is underway.

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Speaker 2: It's reported I don't know if you can you can

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Speaker 2: clear this up that you took not considerably less, but

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Speaker 2: the Raiders gave you a little less than what the

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Speaker 2: packers that offered.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right before the ending of it. Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 2: You was out of there and you feel they slapped

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Speaker 2: you in your face by not giving you what you

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Speaker 2: what you had earned up until that point. They made

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Speaker 2: you play, put yourself, put you and your family at risk,

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Speaker 2: and then once you come out on the other side,

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Speaker 2: said Doc, we knew you could do it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you go, bro.

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Speaker 3: And then But but the biggest thing was that I

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Speaker 3: didn't hear anything after that, so I basically was already

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Speaker 3: la la la la lave you know once once the

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Speaker 3: season ended, but I didn't there was no follow up.

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Speaker 3: There wasn't a lot of talks going on. I didn't

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Speaker 3: know there was for like almost two months. And I'm thinking, Okay,

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Speaker 3: well I'm gonna just be a regular dude to them,

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Speaker 3: so I'm about to go. And then they think that,

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Speaker 3: you know, tagging me was was the next option after

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Speaker 3: basically playing for less than tag the year before that.

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Speaker 3: So I'm like this this is obviously not and they

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Speaker 3: were I don't know if they was calling my bluff

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Speaker 3: or just you know what, what the idea was, but

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Speaker 3: it just wasn't working for me. So you know, I

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Speaker 3: just I had to plug my ears before I heard

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Speaker 3: the number that made might ass want.

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Speaker 2: To stay cause you'd heard that. Nobent for like, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I forgive.

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Speaker 3: Y'all, hold on you, I said, what so yeah, I

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Speaker 3: just I just said, look, we're gonna nip this in

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Speaker 3: the bud. This is what I think is best. You know,

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Speaker 3: ended up working out for the Packers. They got a

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Speaker 3: couple of good players out of it as well. And

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Speaker 3: you know, it is what it.

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Speaker 1: Is growing up your upbringing.

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Speaker 2: I read that you've had you never had your own bed,

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Speaker 2: slip on the couch at your grandma's house with nine

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Speaker 2: other people living there. Did you always want to be

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Speaker 2: a football player? Did you always want to be did

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Speaker 2: you what?

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Speaker 3: Do you? What?

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Speaker 1: Did they want to be when he was growing up?

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Speaker 3: I want to be in the NBA. When I was

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Speaker 3: in the in the in the fourth grade, we did

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Speaker 3: a yearbook thing I could I could show it to you.

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Speaker 3: I got I got it, I got it in my

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Speaker 3: favorite so it'll be it'll be real easy to find.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know if you've ever seen it. I

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Speaker 3: was in fourth grade and this, this will tell you

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Speaker 3: that this was all meant to be because you'll notice

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Speaker 3: that jersey, and you'll notice that kid right there. That's

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Speaker 3: that's in the yearbook, fourth grade yearbook right there.

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Speaker 1: NBA or NFL Star.

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Speaker 3: That's what I told them, them people that I needed.

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Speaker 3: I said, that's what that's what I want to be.

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Speaker 3: And and you see NBA was first at this point.

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Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't play football to my junior year

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Speaker 3: that's the ball. It was. It was. It was bad

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Speaker 3: for me, and that was it was really no other option.

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Speaker 3: There was nobody else that had made it out of

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Speaker 3: you know, where I was from. So I wanted to

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Speaker 3: be able to, you know, inspire the youth in in

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Speaker 3: my city and obviously provide for my family and.

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Speaker 1: Do what I love to do, which is play ball.

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Speaker 3: But you know, the football got I ended up catching

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Speaker 3: you know, I said, you know, I grew five and

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Speaker 3: that kind of stopped and I was like, damn, I

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Speaker 3: thought it was gonna be six eight. I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 3: so you know, I'm I I grew and I'm I'm grateful.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm about six one six two now. But on

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Speaker 3: he eat close. But you know, I played the numbers

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Speaker 2: How motivated were you? And I tell people this all

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Speaker 2: the time. My only motivation was to get my family

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Speaker 3: I mean it was it was my driving force, man.

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Speaker 3: And honestly, I'm glad that I had a wake up

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Speaker 3: ain't guaranteed nothing. You don't. You might have a quarterback

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Speaker 3: that's that's on me. You know, the old line got

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Speaker 3: and all that, But you get that peel in your hand,

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Speaker 3: But to a certain extent, I wanted to make sure

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Speaker 3: There you go. And then I, once I got my

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Speaker 3: you know, that that mental wavelength at that point, but.

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Speaker 2: Your immediate family that you saw going through everything that

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Speaker 3: Through exactly, which is why that same house that that

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Speaker 3: my dad. That's was the situation that I had, and

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Speaker 2: You dealt with a lot of death growing up, friend

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Speaker 2: drug sales, gang violence. Thank you got a cousin that

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Speaker 3: Well, I first I just I think my parents. Man,

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Speaker 3: I got great parents. I thank them for really helping

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Speaker 1: Still around, still paying for it.

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Speaker 3: That's still paying for it, and still saying that almost

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Speaker 3: people getting killed, Like I got friends that I played

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Speaker 3: So it's not that crazy to you at that point

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Speaker 3: that's my driving force, you know, to continue to do

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Speaker 3: what I do to you know, make sure my kids

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Speaker 2: I read that you broke your arm three times, broke

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Speaker 2: you broke in the game playing football all before the

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Speaker 3: So I'm just all. I don't even ask. I don't

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Speaker 1: Did you want to quit? Did you feel courage? Did

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Speaker 2: So high school football, So that means you didn't play

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Speaker 3: I was over, man, I was. I was still healing,

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Speaker 2: So so your your junior year twenty four, you play

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Speaker 2: twenty five total games, ninety two catches, almost sixty on

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Speaker 2: the yard, eight touch eighteen touchdowns. You won Polo Alto's

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Speaker 3: You was reavers man, I was. I was playing off

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Speaker 3: pressing a little bit of everything. Really, I should have

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Speaker 1: Oh you were shut down.

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Speaker 3: I was just over there baiting stuff. And they was like, nah,

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Speaker 3: we ain't. We ain't doing that. We ain't coming over

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Speaker 3: there now with all them touchdowns he got, Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: it was we had a good team though. Man went

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Speaker 2: You were a teammate, a high school teammate of Jock

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Speaker 2: Peterson and John Peterson won two natural two World Series

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Speaker 2: back to back.

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Speaker 1: I think he played with the forty. I think he

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Speaker 3: The Giants was the team he was on before the Diamondbacks.

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Speaker 3: Now he won one with the Braves, and he won

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Speaker 1: Hold on.

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Speaker 2: In two thousand and nine, he had thirty catches, six

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Speaker 3: Hey man, it was it was his show. One thing

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Speaker 3: You know. He a baseball dude. It ain't gotta look

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Speaker 2: I mean, you said he was a great football player.

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Speaker 1: OJ. Where's Devonte in that that list? Oh?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they're gonna put it right by times,

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Speaker 2: Right, So, grade so you said you took at first,

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Speaker 3: The grades they just they came in and with it

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Speaker 3: While these boys is in training camp for in college,

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Speaker 2: But you were those two seasons that you played twenty

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Speaker 3: that field. But we had a lot of guys going

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00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,760
Speaker 3: at that point. I don't know if I would have

437
00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,399
Speaker 3: been able to make that same initial splash in the

438
00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,760
Speaker 3: college football the way that I did had I played

439
00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,560
Speaker 3: that year. So I think that it worked out better.

440
00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,760
Speaker 3: I got Scout Team Player of the Year. I was

441
00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,439
Speaker 3: wearing Keenan Allen's jersey number, you know you put the

442
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,920
Speaker 3: little pennies on, yeah, to go out and mimic him.

443
00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,919
Speaker 3: I was taking full advantage learning him, and you know,

444
00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,879
Speaker 3: he ended up turning it into like one of my idols.

445
00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,159
Speaker 3: And I ended up telling him like a couple of

446
00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,919
Speaker 3: years into the league, and you know, he one of

447
00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,879
Speaker 3: my good friends now because of you know, essentially just

448
00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,879
Speaker 3: having the model of my game after him, you know,

449
00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,040
Speaker 3: playing against them week one, that first game, I said, Man,

450
00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,159
Speaker 3: I'm about to kill these boys all year. And I

451
00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,800
Speaker 3: took that, you know, I took all the owners to

452
00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,879
Speaker 3: get better and use that for what it was. And

453
00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,200
Speaker 3: then came in that year, like you said, a hundred

454
00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,760
Speaker 3: over one hundred catches and you know, thirteen hundred and fourteen,

455
00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,879
Speaker 3: and then the next year they sitting there will how

456
00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,160
Speaker 3: he gonna follow that up? Well? Then I came back

457
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,040
Speaker 3: and doubled the touchdowns and then you know, one point

458
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,040
Speaker 3: thirty and seventeen hundred, and at that point, with Derek

459
00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,879
Speaker 3: leaving and me being in a position that I was

460
00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,879
Speaker 3: and what I'd already solidified, I felt like I was

461
00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,239
Speaker 3: gonna hurt myself more by staying, because I mean, what

462
00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,520
Speaker 3: you want to see two thousand yards before you believe that.

463
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,240
Speaker 3: And we played freaking twelve games, you know what I mean.

464
00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,480
Speaker 3: Like it's I was getting it in and I felt

465
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,400
Speaker 3: really good. I felt like I put everything I could

466
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,600
Speaker 3: on tape, and you know, being being a little bit

467
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,160
Speaker 3: younger getting in the league, or give me a little

468
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,720
Speaker 3: bit more time in the league too. So it just

469
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,480
Speaker 3: so happened to work out, you know, great time.

470
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,719
Speaker 2: In the twenty fourteen draft, can you name the eight

471
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,040
Speaker 2: receivers that were drafted before you?

472
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:52,200
Speaker 3: Sammy Watkins fourth overall, Mike Kevin's seventh overall, Odell twelfth overall,

473
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:57,200
Speaker 3: B Cook's twentieth overall, Kevin Benjamin twenty eighth overall. Marquise

474
00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,719
Speaker 3: Lee was the first pick of the second round. I believe.

475
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 3: Then we got Paul Richardson, Jordan Matthews, and then I

476
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 3: think one seven came in there right after that. If

477
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 3: I don't, if I didn't messed that up, that's it.

478
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 2: Yep, Sammie Watkins, Mike Evans, Odell Beckham, Junior, Brandon Cooks,

479
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 2: Kevin Benjamin, Mark eas Lee, Jordan Matthews, Paul.

480
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,400
Speaker 3: Richardson, Yeah, Jordan was right before Paul. Yeah.

481
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that draft, thinking about you had Aaron Donald

482
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,480
Speaker 2: in that draft, Jadavian Clowney Khalil, Matt Tady, Bridgewater, Derrek Carr,

483
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:29,120
Speaker 2: Jimmy g Jarvis, Landrick, Christian Kirksey. What I mean, what

484
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 2: was your rookie year in Green Bay? Did you think

485
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,919
Speaker 2: you should have played more? Or you played about as

486
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 2: much as you thought you should or deserved or earned

487
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 2: the right to play.

488
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 3: Well. I say this, I wasn't. I didn't have any

489
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 3: issues with how much I played because I feel like

490
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 3: I got a substantial amount of snaps. I felt like

491
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 3: maybe I could have gotten used a little bit more,

492
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 3: and maybe that would have even helped advance my you know,

493
00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 3: my progression as a receiver in this league to help

494
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 3: going into that next year. You know, but having different

495
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 3: times where and that's just the reality of it. You

496
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 3: come in and you got Jordan Nelson and random Cob

497
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 3: on the team, and you come in and you not

498
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 3: playing like I said, like how Odell did when he

499
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 3: first got in. If I was doing that and wasn't

500
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 3: getting the ball, then maybe I would feel differently, But

501
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 3: I don't think my game was at that point, you know,

502
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 3: And that's one of my best traits. And somebody gave

503
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 3: me this compliment the other day and it was actually

504
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 3: like one of the best compliments anybody could ever given me, said, Tay,

505
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 3: I really feel like you the most self aware person

506
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 3: that I ever met. And I really it meant a

507
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 3: lot to me because I'm really good about being honest

508
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 3: with myself. And I'm not gonna sit here and tell

509
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 3: you that I should have been a pro bowler that

510
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 3: year or my second year. I should have been getting

511
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 3: a ball like some of these dudes, because you gotta

512
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 3: play like it, and my confidence wasn't at the spot

513
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 3: that where I want. You know, ten targets the fifteen

514
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 3: targets a game, right, because when you're not confident playing

515
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 3: this position, you not gonna be able to be successful.

516
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 3: Unless you're standing by yourself out there. So you got

517
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 3: to get open, you got to do all the stuff

518
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 3: that it takes to be great. And then once you, you know,

519
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 3: accumulate enough stacked success, that's when you get to a

520
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 3: point where you feel like, Okay, now this thing should

521
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,919
Speaker 3: be my show. And then that ended up happening. But

522
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 3: that first year I didn't necessarily feel that way.

523
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: How much did social media impact you the first two

524
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 2: years the fans wanted Jeff Janis to play. They hashtag

525
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 2: Janis overabs but your mom, man, hold on, y'all a'trey

526
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 2: talking about my baby like this?

527
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 3: Yere A lot of my people felt that way. Honestly,

528
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 3: Jeff jeff Is. I love Jeff to death. So he

529
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 3: one of my that's one of my favorite teammates I've had.

530
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 3: We still talk he still honestly to this day, I

531
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 3: think Jeff might talk more shit to me than anybody

532
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 3: that like Jeff Janis don't care man, And we came

533
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 3: in together and we were real tight, so I got

534
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 3: nothing but respect for him. But you know, so it

535
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 3: has nothing to do with him. But I just thought

536
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 3: that just people were just insane making some of the

537
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 3: claims that they were making because it's like, what are

538
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 3: you expecting out of a young player coming in, you know,

539
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 3: first just getting my feet wet, I show you that

540
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 3: there's some you know, I showed a little promise early,

541
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 3: had some hiccups. But the fact that people be ready

542
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 3: to just give up on folks the way that they do,

543
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 3: especially after they know that they can play right, you know,

544
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 3: it just it kills me. And that's why I feel

545
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 3: like it's my responsibility now to show love to the

546
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 3: proper people, no matter what they're going through and the

547
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 3: you know, as it pertains, we come on here and

548
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 3: we talk about somebody that struggling in the league, I'm

549
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 3: not gonna lie to you. But if it's somebody that

550
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 3: I feel like, like we talk about aiden, people want

551
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 3: to say, oh he not the answer this and that, Well,

552
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: what are you basing that off of? Have you do

553
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 3: you have a large enough simple size to really truly

554
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 3: feel that way? Are you saying that because this man

555
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 3: on TV said that, and he's shaping the way that

556
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 3: you feel about, you know, about the game. And I've

557
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 3: always said, like I wish that I could even start

558
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 3: this now and put some money in to get it going.

559
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 3: But I wish the fans had the ability to access

560
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 3: practice film and really see that. Way they could they

561
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 3: could determine who they really really like and who is

562
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 3: really the best. Because if you got to see people

563
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 3: work on a day in and day out basis and

564
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 3: go in and watch, let me see what they did

565
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 3: in seven on seven to day. Let me see in

566
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: a team period four how he played when they did

567
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 3: move the ball period, let me see how he did.

568
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 3: And if you got the chance to come in and

569
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 3: watch me work, it wouldn't even be I mean, I

570
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 3: know some guys out there getting it in in practice

571
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 3: and they post their videos and they do all that.

572
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: I don't do the social media and proven trying to

573
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 3: prove to the world that I'm out here grinding right.

574
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 3: You're gonna see on Sunday and then the one after that,

575
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 3: and then one after that and for continuous years. I'm

576
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,719
Speaker 3: gonna show you the proof is in the pudding. So

577
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 3: I'd rather do it that way.

578
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: What do you feel your responsibility as a receiver, because

579
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: a lot of times and sometimes quarterbacks don't take this approach.

580
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 2: My job is not to get him ready. But MBS

581
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: gave you a lot of credit that says you taught

582
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: him how to run the routes, you taught him how

583
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 2: to be professional.

584
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: What role do you think you play.

585
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 2: You play as a veteran guys helping the young guys

586
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: get ready to play.

587
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 3: I mean that my leadership role has been prevalent for

588
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 3: I mean really since about I would say, honestly twenty

589
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 3: twenty seve seventeen, probably the year before Marquez and them

590
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 3: got in the league. That's when it got to a

591
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 3: point where I was the you know, for sure, the

592
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: number one guy, and it was it was essentially my

593
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 3: show on offense. So I've been real secure about myself

594
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 3: as a player, So I don't I don't feel like

595
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 3: me going in or I'll say this, I feel like

596
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 3: I'm doing a disservice to the team and my fellow

597
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 3: white House by not giving them all the knowledge that

598
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: I've gotten, because honestly, a part of what's making it

599
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 3: harder year by year is when you know so much

600
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 3: and you truly understand the game, you can't just be

601
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 3: coached by just anybody because now I'm not just about

602
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 3: to buy in. Like if you come in the league

603
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,719
Speaker 3: and you don't know much, it's easy to have whatever

604
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 3: coach you got this old dude telling you this and

605
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 3: that you just gonna go because he's the coach. But

606
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 3: once you have real experience and you really know yourself,

607
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 3: and I've learned from some real gurus. Keith Williams, my

608
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 3: receiver coach from Presno State who's with the Saints. Now,

609
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 3: he's taught me ninety percent of what I know at

610
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 3: mentality wise, technique, all of that to where and now

611
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 3: walking into a room, I gotta be with a guy

612
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 3: like Edgar Bennett that he understands that I know, so

613
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 3: that we work together when it's time to, you know,

614
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: put together the individual part of practice. We talk about

615
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 3: what drills you want to do, because I'm not about

616
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 3: to get out there and do no.

617
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: Drills that that's not going to help me in the game.

618
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: You gotta translate. I'm looking at dudes working out in

619
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 3: the offseason, these dudes working out with the wide out

620
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 3: prints and king routes and this and that. I'm like,

621
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 3: who is that dude? Why are we not seeing him

622
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 3: run rots in the league? If he if he know

623
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 3: all this? You know what I'm saying, And it don't

624
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 3: always mean that you had to play to be a

625
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 3: good coach. I'm not saying that, but when I see

626
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 3: a dude simulating a kick return and they throwing trash

627
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 3: cans at him, I'm like, what are we doing? How's

628
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,239
Speaker 3: that making you better at football? So you could say

629
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: you're getting it in and yeah, you're doing just say

630
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: you're doing cardio because you're not getting better. It's better

631
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 3: than sitting at the crib, but you ain't getting better

632
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 3: a football and I'm not about to be having nobody

633
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 3: throw no trash cans at me in practice to simulate

634
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: a defender trying to tackle me. So having a guy

635
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 3: like E B and AP and being able to work

636
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 3: with a coach and situations like that, I feel like

637
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 3: it helps me be myself, which I can now share

638
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 3: that on you know, Trey Tucker or Jacoby Myers and

639
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 3: we work together that way, I can, you know, shed

640
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 3: all of the knowledge and the life that I have

641
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 3: and help them. Like it's not one meeting that go

642
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 3: by where we're watching practice tape and I'm sitting here

643
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 3: like this and I'm just sitting here just taking notes

644
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 3: on what I'm doing. At some point, I'm gonna be

645
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 3: a tuck like you if you're running this like make

646
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: sure right before you at the top, like I need

647
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 3: a real hard burst. He got to feel that you're

648
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 3: going deep. If you running that corner, pump stop or

649
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: whatever it is, that last piece you gotta sell that.

650
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 3: That's what's gonna get him to do it. Because these

651
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: dudes always ask me how you work on the releases,

652
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 3: like what drills you do? I say, you know what

653
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 3: I do. Every single time. I gotta somebody pressing. I

654
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 3: don't just take that as an opportunity to get lazy

655
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 3: and just run around him or do some bs of

656
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: the line. I'm working every single time. And what that does,

657
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: in turn is and still fearing that man because now

658
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 3: he know, oh, this is the guy with the releases.

659
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 3: So then half the time it just make it easy

660
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: because these dudes just retreat because they didn't see me

661
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 3: work so many dudes to where now it's just operation,

662
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: don't get abused versus try to be aggressive and really

663
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 3: stop them, and that just makes your job easier. When

664
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: you're in the driver seat.

665
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: Like that, everything should be to set up everything else correct.

666
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm running, I'm running. I'm running. Trust me.

667
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: When I run a particular route, Oh I got another

668
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,239
Speaker 2: route in mind that I'm running out this. Oh you

669
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: just don't know it, but it's don't come up at

670
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 2: the fourth quote. Yeah, I promise you it is.

671
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: And I don't talk to these boys about my mentality

672
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 3: like I run a route because you ain't gonna be

673
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 3: wide open on everything.

674
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,719
Speaker 1: So you gotta They get paid too.

675
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 3: They get paid to man, they get to not like

676
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 3: about coach.

677
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: Hey, you gotta beat him on that.

678
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: I said.

679
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: He got to check last week too.

680
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah. And I don't even know. So

681
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna share some lot on something that I've never

682
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 3: even shared. I've done a few podcasts, but I never

683
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 3: even shared this. But I talk to my teammates about it,

684
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 3: and I'll be telling the DB's too, and they just

685
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: laugh at me for it, but they understand and they

686
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: know it's a whole different it's a whole different cerebral

687
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 3: prose to this game that I have. I'll run a

688
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: comeback on you right here. You may see it a

689
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: little bit better than the next man, and get on it.

690
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: You might be in my hip pocket on it. Right

691
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep coming downhill and if I if that

692
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 3: quarterback don't throw that ball, I'm gonna stick my foot

693
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: in the ground so quick and make you think it

694
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: was a double move and kill you on that when

695
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: really it was just a comeback. But now your ass

696
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: think you got killed after you thought you was on

697
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: Met'm pumped it through the hand up and I'm jumping like,

698
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 3: oh the ball, I need the ball, when really you

699
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 3: guarded that winn you had to cover. But now your

700
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: ass thinking that seed. So now you it's gonna make

701
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: him different where I got come back. The next time,

702
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 3: he's gonna be a little bit more.

703
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: Jumping it exactly. So let me ask you this.

704
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: You you look a lot of people say you're you

705
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: know you're not one of the great rote runners in

706
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: today's game. I've studied you, I'll watched you. You one

707
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: of the great route runners of all time. And when

708
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: I talk rock runners, I'm talking about Jimmy Smith, I'm

709
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: talking about Keenan mccartill, talking about Flipper Anderson. My brother

710
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: was a great route runner. O Cho Sinko Ab. No

711
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,959
Speaker 2: matter what you think about Ab, and he's dealing with

712
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: what he's dealing with. He's taking shots at me. But

713
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: I thought he was a phenomenal receiver. Fat was second

714
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: to none. Who did you study tape.

715
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 3: Man, it was, it was. It was a little bit

716
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 3: of everybody. Honestly, I'm the type of dude now that

717
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 3: I truly feel like, not that people didn't already know

718
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 3: Calvin Ridley and oh and these guys, but this this

719
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 3: is coop all the dudes. Like you got the guys

720
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: that's in the front, like you got the Julio's, the

721
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 3: A B's that obviously you can't help but to watch

722
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: that tape. But when I'm watching it, like if you

723
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: want to go a little bit older, I mean like Santana,

724
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 3: like seeing seeing Santana and watching Santana Ocho and Andre

725
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 3: Johnson on YouTube at the park in Miami in like

726
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 3: two thousand and seven, and young ab was there with

727
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: them with the with the you know, the little body

728
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 3: yet a little weird. However, like I'm watching I'm thinking

729
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: about stuff like that. Where I'm watching Santana Moss do

730
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 3: his thing, I'm watching Calvin Ridley. I might turn on

731
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 3: some you know whoever. It might be a dude that's

732
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: a number three receiver. It's a it's a dude that

733
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: was over and uh and you gotta forgive me for

734
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 3: forgetting his name and on the in the moment. But

735
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: the dude that was over and with the Falcons slot

736
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: dudes a little, a little smaller dude just just recently

737
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: though he was he was just there. But guys like

738
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 3: that that I'm I'm I'm watching and and you may

739
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 3: not even these dudes ain't gonna be on Sports Center,

740
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: but I'm watching what he doing because that could help

741
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: me create weapon XS where I grab a piece of that.

742
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: I watch Calvin because I want to see a dude

743
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 3: go up and snatch the ball. Daz is a dude

744
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 3: that I grew up really studying because just watching you

745
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: talk about a dog going up and getting in just

746
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 3: just a different type of aura out on the field

747
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: like that, that type of swag that you carry. That

748
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: that helped me add to the type of player and

749
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 3: the type of aura that I got on the field

750
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: that I feel like that as you know that that

751
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 3: helps you too. Some dudes come in and they they

752
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 3: worried about you, and they already mentally psyched out and

753
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 3: scared because they didn't seen the tape and then they

754
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: feel you on the field like that too. And the

755
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: way you walk around and you walk around like you

756
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,239
Speaker 3: really that that that dude I mean, then you know

757
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: it's gonna make them. They sitting there, I'm watching them

758
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: do their little backpedal and they peeking watching me run

759
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: my rotes and warm ups, and I turn around and

760
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: I'm damn show looking at you the whole way. But

761
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 3: I'm not looking at you to evaluate you. I'm looking

762
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: at you so you know I'm looking at your ass

763
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: and I and I'm here because I know you're watching me.

764
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: So it's that type of feel like I get a

765
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: little bit from different guys in different ways to kind of,

766
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: you know, blend it together and make me.

767
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. I had a problem. You

768
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: know what you used to bug me. I catch seven

769
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: hundred balls in practice. It then come game time they

770
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: throw me three. And then on some weeks I go,

771
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 2: I get like five balls the whole week, and then

772
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: y'all throw me for it.

773
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, I need some consistency that I need

774
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 3: some consistency that I hate that, And honestly, to be honest,

775
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: I never really had to deal with that too much,

776
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 3: especially with Aaron, because you get you. We practiced the

777
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: way the way we play right and the way that

778
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 3: both of us got the reason why I walk around

779
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: on Sunday. The way I do is because I did

780
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 3: it a million times. Jerry Rice came to the house.

781
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: I did a panel with him in twenty eighteen. We

782
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 3: shoot it back and forth and talk to him. I

783
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: asked him in twenty eighteen Super Bowl Atlanta. I said, like,

784
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: why it just looks so easy for you out there?

785
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: Like what was it? Like, what's the secret as to

786
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 3: why you.

787
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: Go out there?

788
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: You catching every ball, get the get the the yak

789
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: yards and all this, Like what was it? He said?

790
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: I never caught the ball because I saw it. I

791
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: caught it because I saw it before. So them them

792
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 3: them reps, and just that repetition of this ain't the

793
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 3: first time where you run it down the field and

794
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: I'm running the post. And it then been times where

795
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: it's like a quick flash of practice where I really

796
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: remember catching that ball, and it's like almost like a

797
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: sense of deja vu, because I take those reps so

798
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: serious that it makes it that much easier, you know,

799
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: come games on.

800
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: It's something you probably never seen. Jerry Dye for a ball.

801
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't channel one. He didn't he didn't

802
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 3: have some boys that can throw it, that's for sure.

803
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: But inn in Seattle. He's probably too old to be

804
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 3: on that. That might have been the only time.

805
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: So did you ever go hey, did you ever go

806
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: to did you ever tell Aaron? Or do you go

807
00:33:58,920 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: to the court?

808
00:33:59,360 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: Eight?

809
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: Give me a look on this one on dred percent.

810
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: I never really had to, but there's been time. The

811
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: one time, and we've already talked about this so I

812
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: can say it. But the game winner twenty seventeen, right

813
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 3: after I came back from a concussion, I got smacked

814
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: by Danny Trevathan. I don't know if you remember that,

815
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: the lay and then we had it like four days later,

816
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 3: had to go play on a Thursday, on a Sunday

817
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 3: or whatever. It was the second to last play of

818
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 3: the game. He throw me a fade. So I think

819
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: it's like twelve thirteen seconds left in the game or

820
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: something like that. Throw me a fade and he threw

821
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 3: it quick and too high, and so I go up spinning,

822
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 3: but I can't get it. I'll run back to the

823
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: huddle and he get ready. He getting the call. I said,

824
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 3: I said throw it again. I said throw it again.

825
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 3: He never heard me had that type of energy. I

826
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: said throw it again, and I just started leaving the

827
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: huddle like, I'm not I only want to hear the play.

828
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 3: We need to do that again, he said, reloaded, did

829
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: it again, waited a second, threw it right before Lewis

830
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: turned his head just a little bit lower right here,

831
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 3: back shoulder, called a spinning through that thing. Six grand later.

832
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 3: I had to pay for that in the stands. But

833
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 3: having those type of moments is what really like led

834
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: to us being who we ended up being. Was challenging

835
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: each other and me not being afraid, knowing that we

836
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 3: have that type of connection to say, hey man, And

837
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: for a guy like Aaron, he like, I ain't had

838
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 3: too many dudes come back and tell me what to do.

839
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 3: So that that that's confidence, and that just displayed confidence

840
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 3: and that led to him. You know, and when you

841
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: have those moments, those are the most gratifying moments because

842
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 3: if I tell him to do that and then I'm

843
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 3: gonna mess it up, now you look stupid and it

844
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: ain't gonna work, and that that could that could really

845
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 3: hurt you long term. Let me ask you this, were

846
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: you do you talk on the field. You're talking about

847
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 3: like trash. Look, I really I do, and I don't.

848
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 3: I used to a lot when I first got in,

849
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 3: like I kind of was chilling and trying to figure

850
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: it out. Then once I started figured it out, I

851
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 3: started talking, Like in college I was, I was a

852
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: big shit talk. Then it got to a point where now, man,

853
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 3: I find like I don't I don't want to I

854
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: don't want to sound bad saying this, but I find

855
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 3: value in just like almost looking through some dudes man

856
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: like boys be out there trying to talk. Like it's

857
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: certain people that I talk to like like like not

858
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 3: playfully in the sense that we're talking, but it's like

859
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 3: a like a like a respect thing. Like me and

860
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 3: Sauce was playing like we're gonna say some stuff to

861
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: each other, like he make a player or whatever. We're

862
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 3: gonna say something to each other. But it ain't like

863
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 3: I want to fight this dude after this or whatever.

864
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: It's more like just to two outphas going at it.

865
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 3: You're gonna have some interaction or whatever, but it's never

866
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 3: nothing that's too crazy. But to the point now where

867
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 3: if you if I feel like you don't need to

868
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 3: be talking to me, like you ain't there like That's

869
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 3: that's how it was with Richard Sherman, my rookie year, like,

870
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 3: I see this dude out there talking or key to leave.

871
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 3: I see the way they was talking to dudes, and

872
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 3: I'll be like, okay, it's about to be one of

873
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: them games. I get in there and them boys wasn't

874
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 3: even entertaining me. I was like, that felt different for me.

875
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, this man every game he got a

876
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 3: guy like he in his head, he talking, but he

877
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 3: not even you know, he like, I'm not gonna get

878
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 3: it to this dude like he he ain't.

879
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: He ain't worth worth words exactly.

880
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: And that's how they and that's what I felt, at

881
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: least that's how I took it. So I said, I

882
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 3: didn't get to the point where I'm gonna start making

883
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 3: dudes feel like that you want to talk, I'm like,

884
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 3: I hear somebody ain't gonna say what team he was,

885
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: but I hit somebody last year. I'm going back and

886
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 3: forth with a dude that I have respect for. So

887
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 3: we we talking kind of on the same type of thing,

888
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 3: a sauce. It was a little nasty, but that's kind

889
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 3: of how me and him would get down in the game.

890
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: And then somebody else came around that was that was

891
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 3: also a good player. He said something. So I start

892
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 3: getting on him and I'm kind of getting in him

893
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 3: a little bit, and and his his teammate he kind

894
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 3: of like trying to like, you know, put his hand

895
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 3: in between like like all right that like you chill whatever.

896
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 3: And then another dude came over said something, I'm musa

897
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 3: did that to him.

898
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: He oh, all right, all right, all right he did.

899
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 3: And then and then his teammates got the lab They said, bro,

900
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: go back to the huddle, bro, And I'm like, get

901
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,959
Speaker 3: him like a stat of grown folks business that type

902
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 3: of you know what I mean. You know, growing up,

903
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: your dad will be like, hey, don't you can't be

904
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 3: in the living room right now, like you go down

905
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 3: there and sit it in for a minute. That's how

906
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 3: I feel like. I'd rather do them like that. You know,

907
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 3: if you're worthy, then maybe I will. But even for

908
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 3: the most part, man, I'd just rather get out there

909
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 3: and just ball. Like game hard enough to and I

910
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 3: play too many players to be out there messing around

911
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: talking to you all day.

912
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: I know there are the conversation being held Offston River

913
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: said he no thirty dudes in the NBA right now,

914
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: the go play NFL. Yeah, he said, but it ain't

915
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: nobody in the NFL that could play in the NBA.

916
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's look, I ain't trying to go viral. Look

917
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: I'll say this. I understand what he's what he's saying.

918
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 3: These NBA dudes are extremely athletic. They be six eight

919
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 3: and being able to move similar to what the football

920
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: player will be doing out there. But we're not talking

921
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: about going and doing a combine. Were talking about the

922
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: physicality that come.

923
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: With to go play in an NFL game and.

924
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 3: Being enough to understand, Like, if my dad run out

925
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: there and just fall on the ground right now, he

926
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 3: gonna be hurt. Yes, Let alone getting hit and then

927
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 3: falling on the ground, Like I think, like, just think

928
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: about somebody that you know that even even when you

929
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 3: were in the league, somebody that was your age, Think

930
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 3: about them just getting hit, let alone, Like that's not

931
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: even the fall apart. Think about any people you know

932
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 3: that the failed and got hurt. Let alone getting smacked and.

933
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 2: You fall on top of you, You fall on the ground,

934
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: the ground hard, you fall that hurt and dude fall

935
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: on top of you.

936
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 3: Boom boom boom boom boom. But all of that is

937
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 3: going on and that's what the whole game is. Yes,

938
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: these dudes ain't getting out of one football game, let

939
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: alone talk about being able to play in the NFL.

940
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 3: There's zero shot. I don't know who I will pick.

941
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 3: You could look at some of the physical specimens. You

942
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 3: got some Julio looking dudes in the in the NBA.

943
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: Baby, But I'm saying that they had had look, had

944
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: Lebron or Russell, Westbrooker some of these other guys chosen.

945
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: That's different. But did you just go and say, oh,

946
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: here the hells go play?

947
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 3: No, sir, No, I can't get behind that and say

948
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: that now. It's it's a it's a hard enough argument.

949
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: And I'm not here to say more. NFL could go

950
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 3: to the NBA versus the other way around. But if you,

951
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 3: if you ask me, I know a handful of guys

952
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 3: that that I know could have made that you know.

953
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: And I'm saying even done this from the initial point right,

954
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 3: not like now like it's tough man like.

955
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 4: You got it.

956
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: First of all, you gotta be big as hell, and

957
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 3: all the big dudes is the big dudes in the NFL.

958
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 3: So what you you ain't gonna put codin Miller, He's

959
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: six eight. But who who he gonna go guard on

960
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: the on the perimeter.

961
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: Nobody.

962
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying, Like

963
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not gonna see an act like it's easy.

964
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 3: But I could have did it.

965
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: But but I think I think football players are the

966
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: most athletic. They can jump the highest, they can run

967
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 2: the fastest, they're the strongest, and they're the toughest. I'm

968
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: not saying that other other sports, baseball or whatever sports,

969
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: but I'm talking about if you talk about athlete athlete football, baseball, basketball, football,

970
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: As far as vertical jump, because we vertical jump standing still,

971
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: they get a step.

972
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: They run a jump, they get a run, even for

973
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: the combine.

974
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: For the combine. As far as flat out speed a billit, Oh.

975
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 3: No, yeah, it's not even close these dudes. Like I said,

976
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 3: the physical aspect is just one piece. But then we

977
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 3: get into the speed, and you know they agile, but

978
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 3: just being able to move on grass is different.

979
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: And plus y'all got like four players in basketball, we

980
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: got one hundred and fifty. We got to a dude,

981
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: try to knock your block off.

982
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 3: And we're gonna change the play. You might get three

983
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: calls in the huddle too. These boys don't even be

984
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: going to college for more than five minutes half the

985
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: time in the NBA, so I don't know how much

986
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: they gonna be able to retain.

987
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, we got too much. We got too much

988
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: of our plate.

989
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, who's your favorite n b A player

990
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 3: Damian Lillard?

991
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: Damn, that was quick. Yeah, because he's from the bail.

992
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: You just like his game or that's your his game,

993
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: remind you of your game.

994
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: First of all, that's like my brother, so so I like,

995
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: like there's the there's a sense of loyalty there. But

996
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: then when you talk about like if I had to

997
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: go pick ten dudes to go to like physical war with,

998
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 3: like like, that's one of them boys, he gonna be

999
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: frontline with me and he because he we just we

1000
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: cut from the same cloth. So that's the anybody that

1001
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: got the same type of mentality, been through the same

1002
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 3: type of stuff, from the same area. So we we

1003
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: experienced a lot of the same things and share a

1004
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: mindset and just the style like we we we ain't celebrities.

1005
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 3: We people know me because of football. They don't know

1006
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: me because I'm a fashion icon or whatever. I mean,

1007
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: I be dripped out, I got it on. You see.

1008
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 3: It's but they don't know me because they know me

1009
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 3: because of football. And it's a lot of dudes out

1010
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 3: here that that are known from a lot of other.

1011
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: Stuff, and you know, you want to be known as

1012
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: a football.

1013
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 3: Player, and that's and that's who he is. He like,

1014
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 3: I want to be the best to do what I do,

1015
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: or at least the best version of myself, and I'm

1016
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 3: gonna make everybody around me better. We've had very similar past,

1017
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: you know, around the same age, and and we just vibe.

1018
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 3: So it obviously helps it being cool with a dude. Yeah,

1019
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 3: you know, but before it was even to that point,

1020
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 3: Like I've always been a huge fan of him going

1021
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 3: to a school that wasn't the biggest school and then

1022
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 3: you know, coming into the league and doing what he did,

1023
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: you know, basically changing what people think about a school,

1024
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: like like we were like that's basically how they feel

1025
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 3: about Fresnel now. Like Fresnel was known for being the

1026
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: tough guys, but it wasn't like they producing talent like

1027
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 3: like top level all time.

1028
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 1: Y'all known for like garlic or something as avocados, chill.

1029
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 3: I don't know it's definitely agriculture. We had asked school like,

1030
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 3: but uh, yeah, it is what it is. But but yeah, Dane,

1031
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 3: we share we share a lot of the same values, mentality,

1032
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 3: the way we feel about our family, our kids and

1033
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 3: and everything. So I mean, it's really not even it's

1034
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 3: not close.

1035
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: Who's the goat nba.

1036
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,959
Speaker 2: Ah man, I forgot you, Brad George got ah bad?

1037
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: Oh bad?

1038
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: This man right here, bar none you got, you got

1039
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: your you got your Lebron's And I love Bron so

1040
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: Lebron bron is is a is a different type of

1041
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 3: dude man. And and I love Kobe. I got mama

1042
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 3: mentality on on the inside of all my cleats, and

1043
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 3: it's it's a piece of all these guys that I

1044
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 3: that I love. But when you talk about just I

1045
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,959
Speaker 3: mean that he Randy Moss for me.

1046
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: It's a little late now it ain't gonna happen. Do

1047
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: you wish you could have like had a son earlier

1048
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 2: enough that you're in the NFL and he in the

1049
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: NFL too, What would that be.

1050
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: Like for you?

1051
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: Oh my god? Well, first of all, I don't know

1052
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 3: when I would. I ain't got that many years to

1053
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: play this get league well, I'm saying even from the beginning,

1054
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna playing that damn long to where they But.

1055
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: Ye, Joe Twitter, you had to be like Tom Brady.

1056
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 3: You're right right. I will say I wish that maybe,

1057
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 3: like all I wanted was a healthy baby on my

1058
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: first job, Yeah, that was what was most important. But

1059
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 3: I wish that if I could have chosen, it would

1060
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: have been a boy first, because I feel like a

1061
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 3: boy at this point, like my daughter being in school,

1062
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 3: people starting, her classmates starting to know who I am

1063
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: and what's going on, and I feel like, not that

1064
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: she doesn't care about that and it's not cool for her,

1065
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: but I feel like naturally a boy would enjoy that

1066
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 3: and take advantage of it.

1067
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could take him in the locker room.

1068
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 2: You can have him on the sideline and he get

1069
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: like Steph Curry, like Steph Curry his day, like he

1070
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 2: did with his day exactly, you know, on the shoot

1071
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: and shoot a round and doing all this.

1072
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 3: The boxes in the ring and got their sons. Like

1073
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 3: a little baby girl being there, but she's just gonna

1074
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 3: be in there just because daddy in there, But some

1075
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: gonna be in there like really like seeing like he's

1076
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 3: gonna be like, Okay, that's on the field. Okay, that's

1077
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 3: that's uh, that's Jayleen Ramsey over there. Like I want

1078
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 3: him to be able to soak it in and really

1079
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 3: know my daughter don't care about Jayleen Ramsey, you know

1080
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And and and I want my son

1081
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: to be really dialed into the game while I'm in it,

1082
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 3: to be able to you know, we're gonna be around

1083
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 3: the game as long as I'm here, so he's still

1084
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 3: gonna be able to be there. But I want him

1085
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: to have been like people like I'll tell you about

1086
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 3: my dad. I never really saw my dad go to

1087
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: work like that, So I like, I hear about all

1088
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 3: the legends and all of that, but I'd be like, damn,

1089
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 3: I just wish I would have been able to like

1090
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: experience that all y'all saying about that, Like if my

1091
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: son was able to see me play and be you know,

1092
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 3: seven eight, you know years old, watching like in be

1093
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 3: in school and really know, like my dad really is

1094
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 3: the best at what he do. I feel like, do

1095
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 3: you wish you'd had the son earlier?

1096
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: So are you gonna still have by this? Are you

1097
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: gonna stick around long enough? So he can see what.

1098
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: Dad does see that.

1099
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 3: That's the main other question. I feel like that's like

1100
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: the one of the main questions I get in gentle now,

1101
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: how much how much you got left? Because I feel

1102
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 3: like you could whatever, you know, it could be this

1103
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 3: or that, And I say, man, I truly can't say

1104
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 3: that this game has given me a lot. I still

1105
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 3: feel incomplete since you know, obviously haven't haven't horsed that

1106
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 3: trophy yet. But I can't really give a full answer

1107
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 3: of how much longer I'm gonna do it. But you know,

1108
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 3: if it keeps looking the like how it's supposed to,

1109
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 3: if we can get it back looking how it's supposed to. Rather,

1110
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 3: I think you know I got I got a little

1111
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 3: bit more and left in me, so we should be

1112
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: able to keep pushing.

1113
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: How about this, I'm gonna get you out here. I

1114
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: want to ask you two questions. Give me your mount

1115
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 2: Rushmore basketball, give me your Mount rush More.

1116
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 3: Football wideouts football or no you player you could do.

1117
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you your top five wide outs you

1118
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: can do all time and you can do current, But

1119
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 2: I want you to give me your mount rush More

1120
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 2: NBA players, Mount rush More NFL players.

1121
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 3: Okay, always you know, for his who I think is

1122
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 3: the greatest of my favorite NBA.

1123
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 1: Give me, give me your whoever how you want to listen.

1124
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay. Obviously MJ at the top, I probably go.

1125
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 3: I'll probably go bron second Cod For me, my my

1126
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 3: favorite basketball player growing up was Alan Everson. So and

1127
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: that's that's where I get to shake from and and

1128
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 3: what I brought over to the.

1129
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: Football world as well.

1130
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 3: So so for me, AI is gonna be probably fourth

1131
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 3: and fifth. I could throw in my other favorite, which

1132
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 3: is probably gonna shock a lot of people, welln't they shouldn't.

1133
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: But if if you know me in the way that

1134
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 3: I played basketball, Darren Williams was was one of my.

1135
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: Favorite basketball players.

1136
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, so that's that's that's that's the guys that

1137
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 3: I that I liked the most. If I had to

1138
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 3: do the greatest, it will maybe just probably swap out

1139
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 3: the fifth and.

1140
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: Got magic bird Janni is kd shot.

1141
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 3: Uh Yeah, I probably I probably have to say I was.

1142
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 3: I was going back and forth. I was going back

1143
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 3: and forth. See I'm and and forgive me on the

1144
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 3: outside world if if y'all don't feel the same way.

1145
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 3: But I never have felt obligated to throw in old

1146
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 3: greats just because they were founding fathers. I truly think

1147
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 3: that you got to put the best basketball players. And

1148
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: if I feel that, you know, this guy is better

1149
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: than then Magic or better than and I'm not saying

1150
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: specifically him, but whoever, I'm gonna say who I feel

1151
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 3: like I like the most. So I didn't watch Kareem

1152
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 3: the way that maybe you watch Creer, So I'm not

1153
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 3: gonna put Kareem in there. He's by far one of

1154
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 3: the best of all time. And that's I mean, the

1155
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 3: numbers say, the legend all of that. But if I'm

1156
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: picking for me, I would probably say shack over over

1157
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 3: Kareem for me.

1158
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: Not gonna get much argument from that. Okay, give me

1159
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 2: a mount rushmore wide.

1160
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 3: Receivers, Randy Jerry, Calvin too, probably Marvin.

1161
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: You only get four.

1162
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 3: Oh that's oh, I think you said top five. He

1163
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 3: said top five.

1164
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you have top I'm gonna let you

1165
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: have top five wide receives. So your top five wide

1166
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 2: receiver all the time is Randy Jerry, Yeah too.

1167
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 3: Megatron, Calvin Calvin third, Calvin third.

1168
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: T O four too, four, and Marvin Harrison field.

1169
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 3: Yep, that's that's where I'm at with my top five.

1170
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 3: And I guess, I guess, uh, we're gonna put Marvel

1171
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 3: on the bench if it's just in the rush of.

1172
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: So bar got Marve, we got to come in if

1173
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: somebody get hurt getting it.

1174
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 3: Hey man, I think he'll understand what I'm getting at.

1175
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 3: You know, I love the fact that I'm saying his name.

1176
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a lot of receivers to play this game,

1177
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 3: so it's it's real tough. And that's another one that

1178
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 3: I was kind of on the on the tail end

1179
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 3: of being able to watch, and I still have them

1180
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 3: in my top five. So that's it. That should tell

1181
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 3: you as me being you know, I'm thirty one years old, right,

1182
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 3: I feel like most people are gonna be talking about

1183
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: Marvel gonna be forty one years old.

1184
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 2: Give me your top five wide receivers currently playing the

1185
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: tape with me, and you.

1186
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: Can put yourself in there. You can leave yourself out.

1187
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 3: Well, well, I ain't leave myself. We're talking about if

1188
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 3: you want the best, I want the best, I want

1189
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 3: separate list, then I can. I can leave myself out.

1190
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 3: But if you saying the best one seven you're probably

1191
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 3: gonna go eighteen after that. See the thing is this, man,

1192
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 3: I feel like jets Is he kind of changes. But

1193
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: over the last six years, it's only been one person

1194
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 3: that people can't take out of that top three, and

1195
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 3: that's me. So I feel like, if you're putting, if

1196
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 3: you're talking about my favorite right now, I would say

1197
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 3: ceed Lamb is probably gonna be third for me. Fourth.

1198
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 3: I put CD fourth, freak third, and and fifth is

1199
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 3: always the hardest one for me because it's too many dudes.

1200
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 3: Man's It's not like when I came in the league,

1201
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 3: you had the same top three guys, was like the

1202
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 3: ones that get talked about. And now it's such a

1203
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: it's such a passing game. And these dudes is taking

1204
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 3: whatever they taken before before they start getting tested and

1205
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 3: they stay in their system forever and they just turned

1206
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 3: into superheroes early on where you got you know, Jamar Chase,

1207
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 3: I probably have to put Chase at at five. Him

1208
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 3: him him are him are? I don't know, my my

1209
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 3: my egos boys over there, they be doing their thing too,

1210
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 3: but I probably yeah, aj is he another one that's

1211
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 3: real consistent and just can ball on and do it.

1212
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 3: So many different ways too. I always ask people when

1213
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 3: you when you're doing your top your top five, it's

1214
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 3: third and eight and it's man and man coverage in

1215
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 3: the boundary. That's what I'm choosing it off of. I'm

1216
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 3: not choosing off of just production. I'm choosing off of

1217
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 3: who gonna get open when I need them to get

1218
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 3: open man and man coverage or you know, provided to

1219
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 3: get doubled.

1220
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: Do you like versatiling They can play, they can play Z,

1221
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 2: they can play slot, they can do it all.

1222
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 3: You everybody that I listed does do that. And and

1223
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 3: that's that's how I feel because I'm I'm I'm you know,

1224
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 3: starting twenty seventeen, and that's when I started really getting

1225
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 3: in a slot like that, right, And I feel like

1226
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 3: if you can't get it, I feel like it's harder

1227
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 3: to get outside. So I like, if you are only

1228
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 3: a slot guy, it's hard for me to put you

1229
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 3: as a yeah, Puture five receiver in the league because

1230
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 3: once you get in there, it's just a lot less

1231
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 3: room out there's you're a lot more limited on the

1232
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 3: route you can run. So you got to be able

1233
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 3: to really create separation and operating in the phone booth.

1234
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 3: And that's you know, when I think about what's led

1235
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 3: to me having a successful career, it's that exact thing.

1236
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 3: So's I probably have to put Chase at that five

1237
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 3: right now, just the way he played.

1238
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: Coach you Belichick said, you're a Hall of Fame wide receiver.

1239
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 2: You have eight hundred and seventy two catches, a little

1240
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: less than eleven thousand yards, almost cripple digit touchdowns, ninety

1241
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 2: five touchdowns. When it's all said and done, is DeVante

1242
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: Adams are slam Dump first battle, Hall of Famer.

1243
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 3: When it's all said and done, I think that there

1244
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 3: shouldn't be a question about it. I think in today's

1245
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 3: world that you not many dudes get they flowers at

1246
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 3: you know, during so I think a lot of times

1247
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 3: just like when people die and then they turn into

1248
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 3: everybody's favorite rapper, that's how you start. You're posting everybody

1249
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 3: listening in the Nipsey now and you know, five minutes

1250
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 3: after he got killed, and it's like I never heard you.

1251
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 3: I've been hanging out with you for ten years, nobody

1252
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 3: mentioned and you always playing music. I ain't never heard

1253
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: one Nipsy song come out of your phone. Now. That's

1254
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 3: how I feel. I feel like That's how they kind

1255
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 3: of do. Especially now it's getting a little water down

1256
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 3: with so many successful White House right, it's starting to

1257
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 3: take the value of you know, some of the things

1258
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 3: I've done down and but I think, you know, provided

1259
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: I keep doing it, you know, I have fifteen hundred

1260
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 3: yards twenty one, fifteen hundred yards in twenty two. If

1261
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 3: I do that two more times, now we in the

1262
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 3: top ten all time, right, And it's only so many

1263
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 3: people with over one hundred touchdowns, and I'm gonna have that,

1264
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 3: hopefully in the first few games. So if you're looking

1265
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 3: at the numbers, or if you're looking at the tape,

1266
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 3: I truly lead. That's nothing to talk about.

1267
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: What can we expect from the Netflix series wide Outs?

1268
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,720
Speaker 2: They follow you, they follow you, uh jj kittle debo

1269
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 2: and say Alma, say Brian.

1270
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: What can we expect? What is what is the.

1271
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 2: Audience not the Raiders audience, but what is the audience

1272
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: as a whole that doesn't know Davante that probably wasn't

1273
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 2: Packers fan or not Raiders fan. What can they expect

1274
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 2: to see from you in this film?

1275
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 3: You're gonna see just unfiltered. I mean, I had I

1276
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 3: had a mic on me every single game, twice a

1277
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 3: week in practice. They went in and followed some of

1278
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 3: the some of the private life, taking my kids as gymnastics,

1279
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 3: you know, birthday party at the house. They're gonna see

1280
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 3: just just the real Tay And you know, you can

1281
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 3: you can watch an interview and you can hear and

1282
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 3: obviously I come on here with you doing stuff for ESPN,

1283
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 3: you ain't gonna see the real nobody. But when you

1284
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 3: when you you know, a little interview out of the game,

1285
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 3: you just gonna get the postgame interview type person. But

1286
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 3: you come on here, you see a little bit more

1287
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 3: personality me sitting talking with you. But then the more

1288
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 3: you get that unfiltered in the home, you know, going

1289
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 3: around town and and they you know, day in the

1290
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 3: life type type. You know that dog, They're gonna be

1291
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 3: able to really see what I'm about and the way

1292
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 3: that I talked, the way I think, and hopefully get

1293
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 3: a lot more respect. And hopefully they already got a

1294
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 3: lot of respect. But but you know, the people that

1295
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 3: maybe don't truly understand what I'm about, they'll they'll be

1296
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 3: able to get a real up close picture at that

1297
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 3: because to be real with you, when.

1298
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: That mic was on.

1299
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 3: It was. It was on so much that you forget

1300
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 3: the point that I didn't even think about it. And

1301
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 3: they ain't telling you, hey, your mic is on, you

1302
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 3: know whatever we get in the game, And I wasn't

1303
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 3: sitting here saying something rob Rod like it was uh,

1304
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 3: you know, like like how Jarvis did the boys on

1305
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 3: h what's the what's the little hard knocks in the

1306
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 3: room and he hit him with the I'm not doing

1307
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 3: none of that too for the TV. None of it

1308
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 3: was full TV. You got you ain't get nothing for show.

1309
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 3: You got everything for show, you know what I'm saying.

1310
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 3: So so like that that's that's what That's what you're

1311
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 3: gonna get for me at all times. And I had

1312
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 3: a couple of teammates that was having trouble with it

1313
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 3: because I'd be they was spending like they was gonna

1314
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 3: get in trouble when I'm sitting here being me on

1315
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 3: the sideline, you know, displeased with a drive we had

1316
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 3: or a call that was made or whatever. And I

1317
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 3: don't even know exactly what's gonna be aired and if

1318
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 3: you're gonna see certain things, but I'm gonna be me regardless.

1319
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 3: So when that might get on there you just gonna

1320
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 3: hear what would be happening all the time. So when

1321
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 3: you in the fifth row and you see, you're gonna

1322
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 3: now be able to hear what was being said. And

1323
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 3: sometimes it's gonna be some good stuff and sometimes it's

1324
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 3: gonna be some real passion. And I want them to

1325
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 3: understand that that's that's the real me. And I wanted

1326
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 3: to make sure that I told the people that came

1327
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 3: to the house and to record the way they shot everything.

1328
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 3: I said. I don't want no corny stuff on here.

1329
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 3: I don't want nobody thinking that this is for TV

1330
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 3: or whatever like Yeah, I want them to know that

1331
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 3: whatever they get in here is is what they have

1332
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 3: not seen yet. But what has been, you know, occurring

1333
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 3: this entire time.

1334
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 2: Tell you your marriage, You settled down and it seems like

1335
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 2: you decided to get married at the early age. What

1336
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 2: made you decide to do that and do Was it

1337
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 2: hard for you to make that make that decision?

1338
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 3: It wasn't hard at all. I'm one of the first

1339
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 3: people I met at Fresno State was my my wife

1340
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 3: now and a great friend before we even got to

1341
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 3: the point where were a boyfriend and girlfriend. So when

1342
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 3: I came in I had a girlfriend from from high school,

1343
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 3: so we couldn't really vibe the way we wanted to.

1344
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 3: I got this beautiful girl that lived in the same

1345
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 3: apartments as me, and we we were just truly vibing,

1346
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 3: and you know, I respect it, and you know, not

1347
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 3: that I would have been like this, but she not

1348
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 3: the type of girl that would have been cool with

1349
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 3: me trying to get at her with a girlfriend anyway,

1350
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 3: So you broke it off with when that when that

1351
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 3: fell apart, she had a boyfriend at the time, and

1352
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 3: then it just so happened that, you know, and then

1353
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 3: I was I was single, just chilling, hanging out. And

1354
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 3: then when they when they stopped they thing, we ended

1355
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 3: up hanging out as friends again and we would you know,

1356
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 3: go eat. But it wasn't even dates. It was like

1357
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 3: just legitimately kicking it. I walked downstairs. Her apartment was

1358
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 3: like on the floor below me, and then like down

1359
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 3: the hall a little bit.

1360
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 2: Do you walk a little heavier when you was walking by,

1361
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 2: like let her know that you covering by.

1362
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 3: I did, well, I'd be walking by her. Her her

1363
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 3: bedroom was right by where I had to come in

1364
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 3: my little gate to get into the stairs, so I'll

1365
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 3: come through who I'm saying, make sure she knew I

1366
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 3: was there, and walked through, and then you know, we

1367
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 3: started hanging out, and I knew right away that this

1368
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 3: was this is a really solid wifey material. You never

1369
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 3: know right away if you're gonna marry the person, but

1370
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 3: I knew this is wifey material for sure, Like never

1371
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 3: been kissed. So I'm like this, I need to make

1372
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 3: sure you the longer you go in life trying to

1373
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 3: find one, they just going through more stuff. And then

1374
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 3: now you gotta worry about what they've been doing the

1375
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 3: last twelve years as an adult.

1376
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1377
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 3: So we got together when we were still kids, right,

1378
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 3: you know, at this point, So because.

1379
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: You got to understand that when you married somebody, you

1380
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 2: date somebody, you dating their childhood.

1381
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 3: You dating their childhood, and they passed and their adulthood yea,

1382
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 3: and they gonna they're gonna fabricate some stuff now, especially

1383
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 3: if they didn't been through something, so they're gonna fabricate

1384
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 3: oh yeah, you know whatever. But it's it's a real truth,

1385
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 3: and it's some people that know the real truth out there,

1386
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 3: and I don't me being me, I don't need to

1387
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 3: be worried about something like that. So, you know, honestly,

1388
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 3: I never really picture myself getting married before the age

1389
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 3: of thirty, and here I am, you know, engaged and married,

1390
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 3: you know, by twenty six. So I'm like, this is

1391
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 3: this is something solid, Especially me being me, it's not

1392
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 3: easy finding somebody that just want to be around because

1393
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 3: because you are who you are, like as a as

1394
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 3: a true person, they want to be around you because

1395
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 3: you are who you are in the public eye and

1396
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 3: they want that the money or they want the attention

1397
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 3: and the notoriety just to be around it. And I'm

1398
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 3: not that type of dude. I don't I don't have

1399
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 3: nobody in my camp. I rarely even kick it with

1400
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 3: a lot of NFL dudes. I'm always with the people

1401
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 3: I grew up with, so that's how I that's how

1402
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 3: I get down and people I went to college with

1403
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,439
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. So it's just I just stay

1404
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 3: true to myself. Man, I'm gonna find somebody that's that

1405
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,439
Speaker 3: match with me. Well, and just so happened to happen

1406
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 3: real early, and I thank God for that.

1407
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 2: Really, I'm gonna get you out of here and this

1408
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 2: what what do you guys have to do to dethrone

1409
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chief.

1410
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 3: We're going have to win the Super Bowl for real.

1411
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 3: I mean at this point, we beat them the last

1412
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 3: time we played them, So we went out there day

1413
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 3: after my birthday, played them on Christmas, and and that

1414
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 3: was a great treat. Even though I didn't go out

1415
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 3: there and have a great game, I was ecstatic. Last

1416
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 3: time I played in that stadium. It was bad. We

1417
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 3: lost the game. You know, I was able to step

1418
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 3: on their neck a little bit, but we lost the game,

1419
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 3: left the game and got in trouble. Did you know

1420
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 3: I had this situation happen. So being in there on

1421
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 3: Christmas with the squad, you know, you're a long way

1422
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 3: from home, it's cold, and go in there and beat

1423
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 3: them in their own stadium. That was a good feeling.

1424
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 3: But the boys still win won the Super Bowl, so

1425
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 3: they like, Okay, you won the battle, but we won

1426
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 3: the war. So we got to we going have to

1427
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 3: do a little bit more. And I think we got

1428
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 3: the potential as a team. We just got to put

1429
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 3: it all together.

1430
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: Because what's it like seeing Patrick Mahomes play up close?

1431
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 2: It's do people get a treat? Do people really understand

1432
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 2: how great he is?

1433
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 3: I think they do, because I think it's enough people

1434
01:01:54,720 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 3: on TV making sure they do and do his job

1435
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 3: to make sure that they see it consistently time at

1436
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 3: the time, and he's a game changer. He didn't have

1437
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 3: so many different times. The game that sticks out to

1438
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 3: me is not last year, even the year before. It

1439
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 3: was like three years ago. They was playing the Texans

1440
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 3: in the playoffs and he was getting their head beat in.

1441
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: They were down twenty four to nothing, and I'm watching.

1442
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 3: I'm at the crib. We got a game, so they

1443
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 3: played the early game. We got a game in Green Bay,

1444
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 3: the little four, three fifteen whatever. So I'm watching this.

1445
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, these boys don got knocked out. I'm like,

1446
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 3: all right, let me jump in the car, hopping the years,

1447
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 3: of course. So I whip over to the stadium. I

1448
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 3: go sit my backpack in the locker, wrap up, Aaron whatever.

1449
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 3: Walk by, and they got you know, you walk in

1450
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 3: the locker room. They got the game zone, just to

1451
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 3: set the mood or whatever. I'm like them boys getting smacked.

1452
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 3: They like, when the last time you seen the game?

1453
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 3: I said, brou twenty minutes ago, what you mean? I

1454
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 3: look at the TV. These boys is winning. I said,

1455
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 3: what happened, bro, They said, Pat the Magician, he didn't

1456
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 3: did it again? I said, all right, well, at this point,

1457
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 3: ain't nobody ever feel good about a lead on on

1458
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 3: on that team. You gotta you gotta play a full

1459
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 3: game for them boys. And we did this last one,

1460
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 3: but we don't have to do it quite a few

1461
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 3: more times to dethrow on them.

1462
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: Devontae Adam, Lady and gentlemen.

1463
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 3: Appreciation, brother, Thank you, my gosh.

1464
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: Wide receivers on Netflix.

1465
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 4: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifics, hustle, pay

1466
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 4: the price, want slice, got the bro all my life.

1467
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 4: I'll be grinding all my life, all my life, grinding

1468
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 4: all my life, sacri fights, hustle, play the price, one

1469
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,439
Speaker 4: slice the bro all my life.

1470
01:03:38,480 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 5: I'd be grinding all my life.

1471
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 2: Passssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss