Speaker 1: What's up and slip service. I'm Angela Yee, I'm Jiji.
Speaker 2: Maguire, I'm Laura Mura, I'm Jordan Manuel.
Speaker 3: And dovelin' wodfield.
Speaker 4: Me.
Speaker 1: This is not a time field us, y'all. Yes, well,
Speaker 1: first of all, live with Field. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for joining. Honestly, this is very iconic for us to
Speaker 1: have you here. So we're going to be respectful, but
Speaker 1: we're still gonna get all in your business.
Speaker 3: I know, I don't trust, very respectful. Trusted. We're gonna see,
Speaker 3: she said.
Speaker 1: I know where I'm at, but I know you can
Speaker 1: handle it, you know, just from watching you on the screen.
Speaker 1: One thing that we want to start with, and this
Speaker 1: is a little icebreaker for us, just for us to
Speaker 1: tell a little bit about ourselves, is a time that
Speaker 1: we have brandied, okay, and so a situation in our life,
Speaker 1: just like Brandy from a thin Line, where we've been brandying. Now, Jordan,
Speaker 1: I know first, okay, No, I gotta think about that.
Speaker 1: What about you, gg what's some crazy?
Speaker 5: The first thing that comes to mind is when I
Speaker 5: knocked the hookah over on the table and the coles
Speaker 5: went flying onto people.
Speaker 1: It was that for one of your parties.
Speaker 3: Oh oh, I feel like somebody like really upset you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, ask her about it.
Speaker 3: You did it. I knocked it and I intentionally knocked
Speaker 3: over the You intentionally did it.
Speaker 5: I pushed it over and it was like a long
Speaker 5: table full of people and the hookah was at the end,
Speaker 5: and I like pushed it down the table like bowling,
Speaker 5: like a bowling ball, just knocking everything over.
Speaker 1: And I'm coulda set a fire. It could have hurt people.
Speaker 5: It was very bad. So if you had it to
Speaker 5: do over again, would you do I would not do
Speaker 5: it again.
Speaker 3: You would not do it. You know there are people
Speaker 3: that did that. You would not do it again.
Speaker 5: There are literally people that hate my stinking guts because
Speaker 5: I did that. Oh really Yeah, somebody got burned and
Speaker 5: she hates me forever. Oh I'm sorry you burned somebody that.
Speaker 1: Oh they're finding out new things. That was yes, all right, okay, okay, Laura,
Speaker 1: the time you've brandied, I keep the escalator. Come on,
Speaker 1: wait what you're stolen?
Speaker 2: Say?
Speaker 1: Kept it? Okay?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 6: Right at the game on the spot he was at
Speaker 6: with the other girl, whoa.
Speaker 1: Some people may make you pay for that.
Speaker 6: Oh he knew not to okay, like key, I ran
Speaker 6: after and he knew it was He knew it.
Speaker 1: Was me, okay, And what did he say after that?
Speaker 2: Why would you do that? I told you I wasn't
Speaker 2: with nobody else. I was like, yeah, whatever, just go
Speaker 2: get it fixed.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: Yeah he deserved it all right.
Speaker 7: Mine still doesn't know that this happened.
Speaker 1: But I guess.
Speaker 7: I guess this is or doesn't know it was me,
Speaker 7: So I don't know if I want to blow up
Speaker 7: my spy.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 7: Ever, there was an egging situation, the egging situation, same guy, okay,
Speaker 7: but there was an egging moment with all the cars,
Speaker 7: and unfortunately my homegirl, who also had an ex at
Speaker 7: the same.
Speaker 1: Party, got the blame of it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but they knew I was there, so you know,
Speaker 7: I claim my business. But yeah, but the other one.
Speaker 1: Is sorry, let me see what did I do? I've
Speaker 1: done like little things one time. I'm definitely the type
Speaker 1: of person. I found out my boyfriend was cheating on
Speaker 1: me and I the girl he was cheating with was
Speaker 1: engaged to somebody, and I sent all the the proof
Speaker 1: to her, the proof to the fiance via Facebook. Sure,
Speaker 1: that's just journalism. Yeah, that's journalism.
Speaker 6: They did.
Speaker 1: They actually did end up still getting married, but I'm
Speaker 1: sure he probably felt away. Still, Yes, you know what
Speaker 1: about you in real life?
Speaker 4: Oh no, Well see that's the great thing about being
Speaker 4: an access I can act out and not get put
Speaker 4: in jail.
Speaker 1: But listen, that's not illegal. But is there a time
Speaker 1: you have gone crazy in a relationship? I mean, you've
Speaker 1: been in this business since a young, young, young age, yes,
Speaker 1: and you've seen a lot.
Speaker 4: And well, here's the thing I wouldn't say over. I'm
Speaker 4: not a vindictive person. I'm just more I used to
Speaker 4: be just more emotional. If it came up, it came
Speaker 4: out right.
Speaker 3: And so it wasn't just with a guy.
Speaker 4: Usually I wouldn't make a guy feel that he was
Speaker 4: important enough for me to like you really like that really,
Speaker 4: But it's through a lot of psychologies, you know, working
Speaker 4: through things, because all that comes from rage.
Speaker 3: Because when we do stuff like that, it's not even.
Speaker 4: That we're that mad, we're that hurt where that hurt
Speaker 4: and the hurt turns to like the anger thing and
Speaker 4: rage and then we have a tantrum.
Speaker 3: Right, So I used to have tantrums. I mean, you know, okay,
Speaker 3: I have turned over a few tables.
Speaker 4: I mean no, but that happens to be really, you know,
Speaker 4: easy because you don't even have to, like you just.
Speaker 6: It wasn't a table, and it just yeah, look, I'm
Speaker 6: not gonna feel a muscle trying to get.
Speaker 3: Mad as some fuck. You know, you can just tip
Speaker 3: it in. It's gone. So but that was really really a.
Speaker 4: Lot younger, because I find that it takes more well
Speaker 4: what do you all think? I feel like that kind
Speaker 4: of rage and anger it takes more away from.
Speaker 3: You than it gives to you. Yes, you know, it
Speaker 3: might feel good in that moment.
Speaker 5: In that moment, but the repercussings and consequences never feel good.
Speaker 1: I think that's a younger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was twenty one.
Speaker 1: As you get older, you're not supposed to twenty Yeah she.
Speaker 3: Was twenty one. Don't be scared of anybody who like
Speaker 3: has an eye on her. Now she would I would never.
Speaker 6: Do that now, Like, yeah, it was too many cameras.
Speaker 6: I'll go home and cry, just cry about it everyone.
Speaker 3: Might you know my phrase? No, next, just that part's
Speaker 3: all move on?
Speaker 5: Like why what our feelings get involved? Because you know,
Speaker 5: you can't feel anger and rage without having having had
Speaker 5: filt some type of love right, well exactly so, but
Speaker 5: that's between love and hay is it was.
Speaker 4: It's a saying for years and years and years and
Speaker 4: years and years a song. It's a song and they
Speaker 4: even made a song about it because it's passion. So
Speaker 4: when you feel passionate about someone, it can't even be
Speaker 4: your best.
Speaker 3: Friend or a friend.
Speaker 4: When you know you love it that that is the
Speaker 4: person who can push you off the.
Speaker 1: Most heart the word really really really, so it's passion,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: So one first, I think we can celebrate that we're
Speaker 4: deeply feeling people, and then I think it's like, okay,
Speaker 4: what are you really going to do with.
Speaker 3: This if it's not quite how you want it to be?
Speaker 4: And how you know, how you're going to manage that
Speaker 4: part because it's not so much the thing, but how
Speaker 4: we manage it, you know.
Speaker 1: I feel like, and tell me, if you think this
Speaker 1: is true, you feel like you've been destined for this
Speaker 1: life that you had, because even from early on, it's like, yes,
Speaker 1: stuff hit I do.
Speaker 4: I think some people are lucky enough that you get
Speaker 4: your purpose gets deposited in your spirit. And I just
Speaker 4: kind of always knew because I was watching those movies
Speaker 4: at home, and you know, people were glamorous and they
Speaker 4: would make me cry.
Speaker 3: They would make me laugh.
Speaker 4: I could go through a whole range of life experience,
Speaker 4: you know, and I just always knew that this is
Speaker 4: what I wanted to do, and I thought maybe I
Speaker 4: would have talent at it.
Speaker 3: But then I studied it, you know, at Howard and
Speaker 3: then with other.
Speaker 4: I know I do, but but you know, yeah, it's
Speaker 4: a blessing when you kind of know what you want
Speaker 4: to do early on.
Speaker 1: Now this is a real uncensored because we've seen your
Speaker 1: TV one uncensored. Yes, but this is a different type
Speaker 1: of uncensored.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: How is it in relationships turning on and off? You know,
Speaker 1: the acting? Because sometimes people think that you could be
Speaker 1: acting when you're in a relationship with them, and maybe
Speaker 1: sometimes you kind of are like, how does that work
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, I wish that I could act in relationships. I
Speaker 4: wish that I was that person, the contrivant, you know,
Speaker 4: to be kind of to act out in a relationship
Speaker 4: you're talking about male female.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not good at it.
Speaker 4: If we hung out and we found out a few times, yeah,
Speaker 4: I kind of like need the truth in my world,
Speaker 4: and I think that's the kind of acting that I do.
Speaker 4: I think it comes from an honest place. But I
Speaker 4: have I can't tell you the number of times back
Speaker 4: in the day and even forward now then I'll be
Speaker 4: at dinner with somebody, out with somebody and they're like, well,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know I should just before because
Speaker 4: you know, but I don't think you could like act
Speaker 4: that crazy if you.
Speaker 3: So people believe it, so you know, they believe it.
Speaker 4: But the thing is is that the acting part right,
Speaker 4: part of the work of acting, and it's not just
Speaker 4: for the you know, the glory and this and that,
Speaker 4: and there's a lot of perks that come along with it.
Speaker 4: But I take it as a responsibility, like in a
Speaker 4: service gig, because I think that you have to take
Speaker 4: seriously when you're presenting truths about people. Because if I'm representing,
Speaker 4: like a lot of black women will say you represent
Speaker 4: us so, well, well that's a you know, that's something
Speaker 4: we're to be taken seriously and we are to be
Speaker 4: believed and whatever the journey is, you know, it's my
Speaker 4: job to shed some light on it, you know, whether
Speaker 4: it's good or bad or different, but to share the
Speaker 4: truth of who we are, So I can't sell it
Speaker 4: out just to be cute and kind of be acting,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: Trust like you know in relationships. But I will say, well.
Speaker 3: Back to that, no, people a lot of that meant.
Speaker 3: But that would be an insecure.
Speaker 2: Like is she like they'd be like, is she really
Speaker 2: enjoying us?
Speaker 4: Well, that's you don't know, if right, If you don't know,
Speaker 4: if you're not more incommings screaming a little too, you're
Speaker 4: not more in command of yourself. If you can't know
Speaker 4: who you are and what you can do and what
Speaker 4: you're capable of man how to do what you do,
Speaker 4: then what can I do about that?
Speaker 3: I can't, you know.
Speaker 1: I have love limit Field for a long time now
Speaker 1: playing Josephine Baker. Also, my grandmother's name is Josephine. Oh,
Speaker 1: so I've always felt like that connection. So I love
Speaker 1: like just that name also. But that was amazing for
Speaker 1: you do take things like that with you, like, because
Speaker 1: that's the road you really had to get into. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, that's not something that is like all right,
Speaker 1: that's a real person like that. You have to study
Speaker 1: what actually happened, you know in there.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I took one of the things
Speaker 4: I took from Josephine Baker. If you go back and
Speaker 4: look at it, there was a time when she lost everything.
Speaker 4: She lost her house and they took her out of
Speaker 4: our house and a hair by it and barefoot in
Speaker 4: a quilted robe. I sat out on it that I
Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, I never want this to
Speaker 4: happen to me.
Speaker 3: I carried the.
Speaker 4: Fear of poverty, of making bad mistakes. And the funny
Speaker 4: thing is is when you carry fear about something, you
Speaker 4: often draw it to you. Oh look, y'all, we got
Speaker 4: an amen can off. It's not even lady, may we
Speaker 4: just talking like, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 4: think I brought some bad financial choices to myself from
Speaker 4: the fear.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what. I'm gonna say this too. For
Speaker 1: a lot of people who don't come from money, it
Speaker 1: is really a fear like when you start getting sound,
Speaker 1: you know, you are so scared to like make the
Speaker 1: right decisions because we're always scared that it's not going
Speaker 1: to work out or that it could go away at
Speaker 1: any moment.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel like with everything that I do,
Speaker 1: I'm always like I got to prepare it because just
Speaker 1: in case I lose everything, I'm gonna make sure that
Speaker 1: I always have a place to live, or like I
Speaker 1: make decisions.
Speaker 4: That's a safer but that's a safer route than the
Speaker 4: other route, which is this got started and it's never
Speaker 4: going to go away, right, And so I think there's
Speaker 4: a lot of that kind of thinking too.
Speaker 1: What do you ladies think I have fear?
Speaker 6: Like I feel like in this time right now in
Speaker 6: my life, everything is that I've ever wanted is right there.
Speaker 6: But I'm so used to being indecisive and making choices,
Speaker 6: not thinking about myself, thinking about everything else that I'm
Speaker 6: now like, oh my god, everything I want is right here.
Speaker 3: If you're not thinking about what are you thinking about?
Speaker 1: Fair imposter syndrome?
Speaker 6: Thing that fear that I I don't deserve it or
Speaker 6: I'm gonna mess it up. I don't like.
Speaker 4: Fear is a bitch, and it is just the device
Speaker 4: of obstruction and what I call I don't want to
Speaker 4: scare people, but I do call it darkness.
Speaker 3: Okay, don't get scared.
Speaker 4: It's that's okay, It's just energy that is and and
Speaker 4: but it's amazing what we what we do to ourselves.
Speaker 1: Right especially as women.
Speaker 7: I think, yes, it's a habit of women and society
Speaker 7: kind of pushing us on to not going after what
Speaker 7: we actually want and having to stay within this box
Speaker 7: and stay within reach.
Speaker 4: And you know, I was at jazz Fest last week
Speaker 4: and I was walking, you know, and there's lots of people,
Speaker 4: and you go to the stages and Earth when fire
Speaker 4: was killing it and just pat.
Speaker 1: Killed were killed.
Speaker 4: It was amazing, but it was so funny, like you're
Speaker 4: walking and you know, lots of people and the number
Speaker 4: of women, black, white, pink, purple who said I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: like they walk in front of you, I'm sorry, excuse me,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I was like, what is everybody apologizing for?
Speaker 3: Crazy?
Speaker 4: And I could see myself in it, and I could
Speaker 4: see other people in my family in it. I was like,
Speaker 4: why why are all the women apologizing?
Speaker 3: Men would just look hying and hearing and it's like,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, excuse me to me what?
Speaker 4: Oh oh wait, I'm sorry so many.
Speaker 1: Times b watch out.
Speaker 4: You know, a sense of entitlement, like I'm supposed to
Speaker 4: be here and so I'm learning still because I'm a
Speaker 4: work in progress. Y'all may look at IMDb and say,
Speaker 4: oh lord, she must know it all lies.
Speaker 3: Lies. I'm such a work in progress.
Speaker 4: But I mean the information that we feed ourselves is
Speaker 4: so key because often we just do it ourselves.
Speaker 1: Well, you know you said that you like when it
Speaker 1: came to financial decisions early on, you didn't make the
Speaker 1: best ones. No, so tell me, like some things that
Speaker 1: you learned along the way.
Speaker 4: I would just put it off, right, I would put
Speaker 4: off gathering those re seats.
Speaker 3: I would put off like.
Speaker 4: I would put off like actually finding out and actually
Speaker 4: seeking counsel, Like is this a wise thing for me
Speaker 4: to do right now? Is it wise for me to
Speaker 4: stay in the south of France for six weeks? But no,
Speaker 4: but no, but you know, not wanting so, And that
Speaker 4: was something that Josephine did, right, Yes he did. It's
Speaker 4: like I don't I don't want to know it's all
Speaker 4: going to work out, right, you know what's me right now?
Speaker 4: And we're in and you know, it's like we're invincible,
Speaker 4: like we don't hurt, Like we'll work and we'll make
Speaker 4: it right.
Speaker 3: We'll fix it.
Speaker 4: And then when it gets down to I mean, okay,
Speaker 4: I didn't not go for the trap of the five
Speaker 4: thousand dollars perse that was never the choice that I
Speaker 4: would make. I have to say that, no, so, you know,
Speaker 4: putting off the reality of where I was, not wanting
Speaker 4: to know where I was because I wanted to do
Speaker 4: what I wanted to do. And I think and I
Speaker 4: think that was the biggest That is the biggest, That
Speaker 4: was my biggest flaw. And so then the results that
Speaker 4: come from all of that can be so messy, so catastrophe.
Speaker 4: You got to go back pedal, fix it, clean it all,
Speaker 4: why you know.
Speaker 1: So so that, yeah, people assume that you're rich too, always,
Speaker 1: like even back then, just because you've had movies that
Speaker 1: have been huge for a long time. And so after that,
Speaker 1: understand how important, how how expensive it is to sustain
Speaker 1: because you're expensive.
Speaker 3: There are I do I do, you know, I love that.
Speaker 4: Stuff, but I have I played a maid once once
Speaker 4: one I play but she was really really great. It
Speaker 4: was called Sophie and the Moon Hanger.
Speaker 3: But I don't know.
Speaker 4: After Josephine, I mean, I think that's a part of
Speaker 4: the type guessing thing. After Josephine, people just always saw
Speaker 4: me as this grand you know, you gotta that's.
Speaker 1: Not a bad thing. Though it's not bad.
Speaker 6: You have a rich look and yeah, like everything about
Speaker 6: your energy. Yes, people say that, but I don't.
Speaker 3: I guess so, but that's not how I see it.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't see well I do. Here's what I do know.
Speaker 4: I'm entitled to be here. I am entitled to walk
Speaker 4: this earth without full explanation of all of who I am.
Speaker 4: And I really don't need to give a lot of
Speaker 4: energy to things that you know, racism, sexism. You all
Speaker 4: very rarely hear me complaining about all those things. You
Speaker 4: might see me encouraging people to vote. You see me
Speaker 4: doing some things, but I don't want to give them
Speaker 4: all my space that they're important enough that you have
Speaker 4: to talk about it all the time. So I think
Speaker 4: I kind of try to. I just think I'm supposed
Speaker 4: to be here.
Speaker 1: And you're from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, Yes, which is I've
Speaker 1: been there a few times, Yes, I have. I remember
Speaker 1: the first time I went there, But after that I
Speaker 1: did interview n Be a young boy, you know, So
Speaker 1: I spent some time there while I was out in
Speaker 1: Baton Rouge, and I hosted a party there. I was
Speaker 1: there like a few times. How do you feel like
Speaker 1: bat and Ruge has shaped who you are today and
Speaker 1: what was that like?
Speaker 4: Well, I think the people who loved me, the women
Speaker 4: who loved me, you know, the women who.
Speaker 3: My mother, my grandmother's, my aunt.
Speaker 4: All those people there she helped to shape me because
Speaker 4: what was segregated in the South, and people don't quite
Speaker 4: you know, get it, is that somehow there's still this
Speaker 4: way that races coexist as long as they're not giving
Speaker 4: each other a problem, you.
Speaker 3: Know, So it's cool.
Speaker 4: And so the black world that I grew up in,
Speaker 4: everybody was the doctor, the lawyer of the Indian chief.
Speaker 4: We had our own yards, our own land, our own homes.
Speaker 4: So those people and that culture and that legacy, you know,
Speaker 4: has just been with me always, right.
Speaker 3: So that's baton rouge. That's where I was. But now
Speaker 3: New Orleans is with your daughter.
Speaker 1: In New Orleans amazing. Grace getson shout out to you.
Speaker 4: Yes, it was just at the Apollo Cafe last weekend,
Speaker 4: so you couldn't come.
Speaker 3: But there's some other dates coming up and you gotta comment.
Speaker 1: Now she's a singer, she's amazing. I was embarrassed. Tell
Speaker 1: her sorry, I was so drunk. We were good the
Speaker 1: second time. I have no idea, but she definitely was.
Speaker 4: What she said, so sweet, it's New Orleans.
Speaker 3: It's New Orleans, right, you get drunk, drunk and eat.
Speaker 1: That's it, so you said, but New Orleans.
Speaker 3: Well New Orleans.
Speaker 4: I have this real cultural connection with New Orleans because
Speaker 4: when I'm in New Orleans, you know, I feel Europe,
Speaker 4: I feel Africa, you know, I feel a lack of
Speaker 4: cultural judgment. Like people's cultures are respected there. Okay, even
Speaker 4: the Irish, the Italian, the you know. So that's why
Speaker 4: they have all those musical families, the Nevils, the Marsalises,
Speaker 4: all of that. It's like a legacy of music and
Speaker 4: culture that just continues to you go walk around.
Speaker 1: New Orleans and go for barta bar and just see
Speaker 1: amazing live music. Like why does this person? Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: the kids outside, It's like it's like is this in
Speaker 1: the air and the water that these kids, even from
Speaker 1: a young age, just had like the ability favorite places
Speaker 1: to visit. It's amazing.
Speaker 4: Trombone Shorties closed it because he closes out jazz Fest
Speaker 4: every year. And I was backstage, like in his family section,
Speaker 4: and this was this little girl. They were just wailing
Speaker 4: on stage, and Cyril Neville and and troumbone shorty, and
Speaker 4: this little girl had drumsticks and she was drumming on
Speaker 4: the metal railings like killing it. And when trombone raised
Speaker 4: his trumpets up, she raised up.
Speaker 3: To the family.
Speaker 1: You know what amazing place. It's very magical, Yes it is.
Speaker 4: You know, I can't imagine not having it. It fuels
Speaker 4: me to be like a better artist, right, take more chances,
Speaker 4: you know, and when you hear great music or you
Speaker 4: see like interesting intuitive painting, it just makes me better,
Speaker 4: you know, like art becomes a real expressionist, the expressionistic
Speaker 4: part of acting.
Speaker 1: And exciting to have a daughter who is a musician also.
Speaker 4: So talented, and I am so glad and so founded
Speaker 4: that I can really say that with gusto and mean it,
Speaker 4: because I can't stand artistic mediocrity. So yeah, she's a
Speaker 4: really great composer, bandleader, entertainer. She really had people in
Speaker 4: the palm of her hand up there at the Pallo
Speaker 4: Cafe this weekend.
Speaker 3: It was very we.
Speaker 1: See Grace.
Speaker 4: Yes, well, I think she has some dates coming up
Speaker 4: here in New York.
Speaker 3: You know, we're gonna plan something.
Speaker 1: I would love to.
Speaker 3: Think it is so like not.
Speaker 4: The sweet, how sweet and who she is no, she's
Speaker 4: it's a whole.
Speaker 3: Difference to get it from her.
Speaker 1: Mama.
Speaker 4: Know, you got say you got to stand at the
Speaker 4: center of yourself when you're doing your art.
Speaker 3: I mean, like if you're not coming from.
Speaker 4: Day and below the gun and below is where all
Speaker 4: the power is, and you got to use that in
Speaker 4: your art.
Speaker 1: What was it like for you having a daughter while
Speaker 1: you were in this business, like when you know, thinking
Speaker 1: about like when you were married and then finding out
Speaker 1: that you were having a baby and then having a girl.
Speaker 1: What was that like?
Speaker 4: First of all, when I found out I was having
Speaker 4: a girl, I cried.
Speaker 3: Really I.
Speaker 4: Boo hooed so hard. You seem like I was having
Speaker 4: my makeup.
Speaker 3: I am a good mom, but.
Speaker 1: That's a girl mom. I see you with a girl
Speaker 1: and a girl.
Speaker 3: Or a girl moa.
Speaker 4: But a makeup artist is doing my makeup. And the doctor.
Speaker 3: Said, when we have the results.
Speaker 4: The doctor was say, okay, back then, that's what they
Speaker 4: would they would tell you, this is you're having a girl.
Speaker 2: My god, I have to grow up.
Speaker 4: It was bad because if it was a son of son,
Speaker 4: it's always gonna.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I thought it would be like that would be easy.
Speaker 4: I would have to, you know, and those little girls
Speaker 4: would be getting on his nerves, but Mama would always be.
Speaker 4: But before I really took it seriously, and I was
Speaker 4: in mourning for the first bit of time because I
Speaker 4: would have to be a better, stronger woman. And I
Speaker 4: just love being a little girl in a sandbox, acting
Speaker 4: and telling stories and not having to, you.
Speaker 3: Know, grow up.
Speaker 5: Yes, I have a daughter, and you just I've never
Speaker 5: thought about that. I mean, I heard it when I
Speaker 5: was seventeen, so I was still growing up as but
Speaker 5: like that just gives me a whole different perspective of
Speaker 5: like the dynamic of being a girl mom. But you do,
Speaker 5: and then we're both like she's grown, we're both grown.
Speaker 5: Now that she's grown.
Speaker 6: It's just like, yeah, but even you did an amazing
Speaker 6: job with your daughter.
Speaker 1: I think your daughter is amazing. I think you are amazed.
Speaker 1: Like I was thinking.
Speaker 6: So, I have two boys, and I've always said I
Speaker 6: wanted a girl. But I'm like, God knows what he does,
Speaker 6: and he does. Everything happens for a reason for purpose,
Speaker 6: and God gives you what's for you and what he
Speaker 6: knows you can handle. Because baby girl at sixteen, me
Speaker 6: with no mother, no auntie, No, none of that, and
Speaker 6: a girl that would have been and even my second child,
Speaker 6: I thought it was a girl in the style.
Speaker 2: I was like, I get a guy.
Speaker 3: We ain't ready.
Speaker 2: But now at forty, I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 1: Ready for a girl.
Speaker 2: Now, girl, I know what to tell you.
Speaker 4: Yes, well you better hurry up, darling taking that baby.
Speaker 6: My friend is having a girl and I told her,
Speaker 6: I said, don't worry, I'll be the pabby. It's not
Speaker 6: coming from this side. But I just feel like you
Speaker 6: look so like you know what I say. I said,
Speaker 6: God blessed me with youth because from the age of
Speaker 6: sixteen I had to be a full grown adult with
Speaker 6: no adults support, like on my own figure it out.
Speaker 2: So I dugged it out. I said, God, you're giving
Speaker 2: me this.
Speaker 6: You're gonna get me through this, And he's really repaying
Speaker 6: me back with everything I ever wanted. You see everything
Speaker 6: I ever wanted, like all the fear and all of that.
Speaker 6: Like I'm to a place now at forty where I'm like,
Speaker 6: what are you scared for? Like you you you just
Speaker 6: handled the toughest job that a female could be handled
Speaker 6: at a young agen and it's a job right and
Speaker 6: like you did it, and look where I'm at now.
Speaker 6: I've never had to do anything that I regret. To
Speaker 6: make sure my sons were taken care of. Money financing crazy,
Speaker 6: but I have ethical and just integrity and just a
Speaker 6: good person. And my boys are everything I raised amazing.
Speaker 1: I raised amazing.
Speaker 6: They're sensitive, they're emotional, they're strong, they're protectors, all of that.
Speaker 6: I don't think at that age, with everything going on,
Speaker 6: I would have been.
Speaker 1: Able to give that to her. You gave it to
Speaker 1: I gave different.
Speaker 6: So everybody gets because, like I said, her daughter, I
Speaker 6: think her daughter is amazing, you know, thank you. And
Speaker 6: the way she's speaking about your daughter is amazing. So
Speaker 6: you got yes.
Speaker 1: Lay, you're also the only person in here who's ever
Speaker 1: been married. Oh yeah, just one time?
Speaker 3: By two times? Yes? What are you?
Speaker 1: That's not marriage now? Because I feel like people have
Speaker 1: changed as far as like, you know, the like for
Speaker 1: you when you first got married and the importance of marriage,
Speaker 1: what was that like?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I never really thought about marriage. The
Speaker 3: first time I got married. It was to someone twenty
Speaker 3: two years older than I was.
Speaker 4: He was a director and ran the DC Black Repertory Company,
Speaker 4: taught he was my acting teacher.
Speaker 3: We I was in Howard University.
Speaker 4: My mother found out that I was spending more time
Speaker 4: at his house than I spent in my dormitory. And
Speaker 4: she called his house one morning, like at six am
Speaker 4: in the morning, and I answered, I was like, and
Speaker 4: she said, I never as long as I lived and
Speaker 4: breathe thought that a Charla mine would be you know
Speaker 4: those years and my mom was a Southern Belt but
Speaker 4: could always use language like a sailor. And she let
Speaker 4: go some expertives that were like and she was so upset.
Speaker 4: I think she had a detective I think to know
Speaker 4: where I was or something like that. And so that
Speaker 4: we I loved Vantau Woodfield that's where Whitfield came from,
Speaker 4: and it was great.
Speaker 3: He looked just like my dad.
Speaker 4: Beware when somebody looks like your dad, or when you
Speaker 4: find the traits or something that there was something but
Speaker 4: and I knew that I wouldn't be But I basically
Speaker 4: got married because we loved each other.
Speaker 3: And he said, well, we'll just get married.
Speaker 4: I don't want, you know, to create this because my
Speaker 4: mom was so upset.
Speaker 3: So that was why I'm married.
Speaker 1: So listen, We're going to get this, yes right and
Speaker 1: make it right for mama. Yes, And how long did
Speaker 1: that marriage lands?
Speaker 4: About five or six years because after I graduated from
Speaker 4: I was still in college and he had an eight
Speaker 4: year old son, and I was doing all that landswide
Speaker 4: feel and after I graduated, I mean I wanted to
Speaker 4: go to New York. He was running the National Endownment
Speaker 4: for the Arts for giving money to you know, diverse
Speaker 4: grants to people culture. So he was settling down and I.
Speaker 3: Was just, oh my god, I gotta go.
Speaker 4: I gotta like so we kind of always knew, right,
Speaker 4: So that was the first time.
Speaker 3: And I was too young to give any marriage.
Speaker 1: What was so what was the proposal?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 4: I was like, no, we'll just get married so that
Speaker 4: they don't want they want to He said, don't worry.
Speaker 3: We really we really just.
Speaker 4: Really enjoyed each other's company. He was so kind, he
Speaker 4: was so nurturing.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 4: But we did such great, you know work together, the
Speaker 4: DC Black Repertory Company.
Speaker 3: So it was it was just a strange kindo. Huh,
Speaker 3: it worked. It did work.
Speaker 1: It at the time.
Speaker 3: Yes, that was the first time.
Speaker 1: So how hard was it for you to be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this isn't working, Let's get a divorce. Was it just
Speaker 1: a okay, we're cool, we agree.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like we understood. He understood that I
Speaker 3: was just spreading my wings, right, and that he was
Speaker 3: settling down because he was twenty two years older.
Speaker 1: And if he left you, he wanted you to go
Speaker 1: and to do so.
Speaker 4: It was like a very When I look back on it,
Speaker 4: I think it was probably the most generous kind of
Speaker 4: relationship I've ever experienced.
Speaker 3: But I was too young to really appreciate. I just
Speaker 3: knew I had to I had so much much to do.
Speaker 1: And was he hype when he saw you? In like
Speaker 1: the movie rolls, Oh yes, because it's like this.
Speaker 4: Is absolutely absolutely he was so so so you.
Speaker 1: Can't go to New York and nothing.
Speaker 4: New York for a woman in New York and went
Speaker 4: to Australia and ended up in Los Angeles with For
Speaker 4: Colored Girls?
Speaker 1: Oh yes. And I just saw For Colored Girls on
Speaker 1: Broadway when it was on bro I.
Speaker 3: Didn't get to see it, but a lot of the it.
Speaker 1: Came and went so fast. I was very upset about that.
Speaker 3: Could I enjoy it?
Speaker 1: I did?
Speaker 6: I say, Laura, you came first play? I took her
Speaker 6: by first place, so thoroughly enjoyed. We cried the woods. Yes,
Speaker 6: the woods was amazing. That were amazing, and the poetry
Speaker 6: is so great. It's a story that lives for every cry.
Speaker 6: Like I felt, every single was like are you crying?
Speaker 1: It was an emotional day. But when I say that
Speaker 1: list forever. A lot of what you've done has lived
Speaker 1: for us.
Speaker 4: I always wanted to be involved with class, with something
Speaker 4: that would stand the test of time and.
Speaker 3: I and I'm very fortunate that there you know, a
Speaker 3: few of them.
Speaker 1: Even think about ease by you.
Speaker 6: Everybody on that everyone has gone on to journey Magan.
Speaker 4: You know, Casey went on to direct Harriet and then
Speaker 4: Whitney Houston and all that.
Speaker 3: So everybody continued on like.
Speaker 1: Who did you know that was going to be what
Speaker 1: it was?
Speaker 3: I felt like it was really special.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I felt I was very excited to do
Speaker 4: it because I was inspired by my aunt who was married.
Speaker 1: To somebody that was philandering.
Speaker 4: Well you know, as I'm not I'm not going to
Speaker 4: like go all into it, but my aunt, but but
Speaker 4: but but a you know, an obgy and husband and
Speaker 4: lots of things. But it was the way that people stay,
Speaker 4: that women stay right and women didn't say. And it
Speaker 4: was the period of time, you know, and I kept
Speaker 4: asking Casey the director, please, she needs one scene where
Speaker 4: she just you know, flips and lays him thin. And
Speaker 4: she said, no, no, don't. You'll thank me later when
Speaker 4: you see it. Your silence is more powerful. And I
Speaker 4: really thought I was gonna have a stroke. It was
Speaker 4: just so hard to you know, not, but she was right.
Speaker 1: Think about the power in staying with somebody who was
Speaker 1: doing what he was doing and being silent about it.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the movie Fences too, the play
Speaker 1: Fences when he done had a whole baby by somebody
Speaker 1: else and she was like taking care.
Speaker 4: Of But those were choices that you know, women make choices,
Speaker 4: you know, and what are we to judge if it
Speaker 4: works out, because I've actually seen some of those relationships
Speaker 4: that they work, they go and then they're happy that
Speaker 4: they're together, you know, own canes and stuff together. Still,
Speaker 4: you know, well, girl, everybody can't.
Speaker 3: Push the hoo could.
Speaker 6: Don't act like you ain't flip no.
Speaker 4: But some people choose, like I'd rather be here than there.
Speaker 3: I'm going to make the choice to stick this out.
Speaker 3: But you know what, I.
Speaker 1: Do think I think that in the time period too,
Speaker 1: as women are becoming independent with jobs making more than
Speaker 1: our men two. At times we don't feel the necessity
Speaker 1: because sometimes survival wise, yes, you feel.
Speaker 4: Like exactly exactly, well, there's that right, you have the
Speaker 4: bank account, you have the job, you d have the
Speaker 4: degree often or whatever. But some people still choose to
Speaker 4: stay and work through it, and some people don't.
Speaker 1: It's a choice. It's a choice because sometimes people act
Speaker 1: like you know, and gave up. If you don't stay,
Speaker 1: if you're like I.
Speaker 4: Know, that gott to be a personal choice.
Speaker 1: And that's why I stay out of people's decisions. If
Speaker 1: you ask me what I think, you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: always be here.
Speaker 4: Almost any time I've ever waited on things like that,
Speaker 4: I get myself in trouble.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they stay together, and then everybody looking
Speaker 1: at you.
Speaker 4: And I need to just even if you say, they
Speaker 4: don't go and then it ends up being horrible, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's just I learned just to support.
Speaker 2: I hear you, I'm listening, but right right here, right yeah.
Speaker 4: I went to this place where I did all raw
Speaker 4: food and detox and you know, colonics, and really it
Speaker 4: was as spiritual as it was anything else. And they
Speaker 4: had classes as well, and this one class was called
Speaker 4: compassionate listening.
Speaker 3: Like you just don't talk.
Speaker 4: You had to hear somebody tell you whatever they wanted
Speaker 4: to tell you.
Speaker 3: That's hard.
Speaker 1: We all went silent when you said that.
Speaker 4: But the compassionate listening is listening from your heart but
Speaker 4: not talking, not giving any advice, any opinion, nothing.
Speaker 3: It was really hard.
Speaker 4: It was for everyone but people, and you'd be surprised
Speaker 4: at people.
Speaker 3: Some people came up with their own answers.
Speaker 4: They were so relieved just to get it out that
Speaker 4: it didn't hurt us bad anymore, that they just to
Speaker 4: have it out and to release compassionate listen. I had
Speaker 4: no idea that that was just in August September that
Speaker 4: I went into this, that I experienced.
Speaker 1: That, okay, And when at Arizona, where was it?
Speaker 4: It's into Ricos in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1: I would love to do this than like me.
Speaker 3: It's called it and Wigmore Institute, and.
Speaker 1: That sounds fascinating and it's.
Speaker 3: All green and nothing tastes good food medicine just.
Speaker 2: That food is but raw food like but not raw meat.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 6: No, yeah, how did you?
Speaker 4: But when I came back Grason, my relationship improved. Oh wow, okay,
Speaker 4: it was good. But I and if I can maybe
Speaker 4: even you remember that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would love to do that.
Speaker 2: Let's do that guys retreat.
Speaker 3: Let's age fourteen days.
Speaker 1: That's a long time. I would love to be that
Speaker 1: raw veggies, right, don't'm starving? The experience I think was
Speaker 1: like that, don't care.
Speaker 3: Well, I tell you I came back feeling.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about this second marriage.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay. So the second marriage was to Brian Gibson.
Speaker 4: Always do work, by the way, because she works all
Speaker 4: the time. So that's you're gonna meet some Well, look,
Speaker 4: I'm not on any boards and all that. You know
Speaker 4: how people go dating they said, dating sites.
Speaker 3: I would be.
Speaker 4: Mortified and honestly, but you know, I'm technically a little
Speaker 4: you know, weak, So you know all that like talking
Speaker 4: online and all that.
Speaker 3: I need to hear a voice. I need to you know,
Speaker 3: that's true. So and he directed story. Could not stand him.
Speaker 4: I could not stand him because it took six months
Speaker 4: for them to decide who the right Josephine Baker would be,
Speaker 4: and they passed on me the first time, and because
Speaker 4: they were going to Irene Cara was going to be
Speaker 4: the young Josephine and Diane Carroll was going to be
Speaker 4: the older Josephine, and it was going to be played
Speaker 4: by two women. And then I don't know how, after
Speaker 4: months they decided that that wasn't and they asked me
Speaker 4: to come back in and do a full tilt screen test.
Speaker 3: That took six months, six hours.
Speaker 1: I remember you said they had to meet you and
Speaker 1: arrest first.
Speaker 4: They had to meet me in a restaurant, because I said,
Speaker 4: I'm not going back in. I have to do this
Speaker 4: on my own terms. I'm not going into their office
Speaker 4: and sit across and be judged upon. If they want
Speaker 4: to meet me, we have to meet in a restaurant
Speaker 4: and the table has to be round.
Speaker 3: I can't do it. I cannot do it because I died.
Speaker 4: I cried myself to sleep so many nights because I
Speaker 4: believe that I was the right person for I was
Speaker 4: so so sad. And my agent went to bad for that,
Speaker 4: and Reuben Cannon, who was a casting director at the time,
Speaker 4: they worked it through and that's exactly what we did.
Speaker 1: That's great that your agent went to bad for you,
Speaker 1: because the agents would have been like, YO are you
Speaker 1: bugging like you're crazy. That's good. You must have had
Speaker 1: a great agent.
Speaker 3: Yes, And it was small.
Speaker 4: I was with Susan Smith and Peggy that she just said,
Speaker 4: you're right because they saw all the pain I went through,
Speaker 4: all the work I went through, you know, producing my
Speaker 4: own screen test and all that. So I was the
Speaker 4: one and when we did all the prep and then
Speaker 4: we went to Budapest is where we shot.
Speaker 3: And we went Budapest for three months, and.
Speaker 4: We just gained so much respect for each other, right,
Speaker 4: because marriage is right. You want your husband to be
Speaker 4: like your protector, right, and he wants you to like
Speaker 4: help him realize his dreams. So as actress director, he
Speaker 4: protected my performance and I was able to fulfill his
Speaker 4: vision of Josephine, and we worked together as such a
Speaker 4: beautiful team, and so we fell in love doing that.
Speaker 4: But except when you're acting, the director is protecting you
Speaker 4: as an actor, and when he says action, you talk,
Speaker 4: and when he says cut, you shut up.
Speaker 3: But that doesn't work.
Speaker 4: So once we left bat, we were out of this
Speaker 4: bubble of work of yes, of what we were creating,
Speaker 4: because it was just such respect and regard. And then
Speaker 4: we both came from Oh my god. It was like
Speaker 4: Adam and Eve after they bit from the apple. It's like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, we feel naked now we don't have
Speaker 4: the cover of like a goal. And we were both scared.
Speaker 4: But within the first three months he was Buddhist and
Speaker 4: he'd be doing that.
Speaker 3: Numb your leo is he's saying, and came down from
Speaker 3: the from his altar.
Speaker 4: I was Christians, was freaking yeah, and he said, there's
Speaker 4: a little spirit in the universe that wants to come
Speaker 4: in and we should let it.
Speaker 3: Baby, I thought it was entrapman. I said, are you crazy?
Speaker 4: This is my first big career opportunity and you want
Speaker 4: me to I said, absolutely not.
Speaker 3: But that's not how God saw it. And it's so
Speaker 3: so we left Budapest.
Speaker 4: We got married three months slater I was pregnant. It
Speaker 4: was like and then we had Grace and then it
Speaker 4: was just all the things and all the fear and
Speaker 4: all the stuff.
Speaker 3: So before Grace was one year old, we were separated.
Speaker 1: Okay, we both want Emmy's.
Speaker 3: We were a Hollywood power couple.
Speaker 4: Everybody thought we were so great and so and we
Speaker 4: just were too scared.
Speaker 1: Right, Wow, listen, this is all before social media. Interesting
Speaker 1: because things play out so differently, Like I'm watching them listening,
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 3: Wait for them.
Speaker 4: Then field ain't nobody playing me for a long ass
Speaker 4: time hard You can forget that, and that's happening. My
Speaker 4: story is the one folding. Guys, I still have so
Speaker 4: much to do.
Speaker 1: You've done so much that you yes, and the party like,
Speaker 1: what do you want to do something? Tell us? Tell
Speaker 1: us manifestation.
Speaker 4: I want to do a really hardcore thriller. Okay, not
Speaker 4: a comedy.
Speaker 3: Thriller, but a real thriller.
Speaker 1: I can definitely see you do that.
Speaker 3: My favorite.
Speaker 1: Would you want to be the killer or the killed
Speaker 1: if you had a choice.
Speaker 3: In the or the detective? Maybe both? Oh no, not
Speaker 3: the detective. And I want to be in it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I can for you in it.
Speaker 4: And I want to do some kind of sci fi
Speaker 4: sci fi extra terrestial kind of okay, you know, intergalactic alien.
Speaker 1: Can see it.
Speaker 4: I can see it.
Speaker 3: Yes, I would love that. I want to play them, Adam, Yes,
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 4: I because I think that there were certain times in
Speaker 4: history when women didn't have any options. You couldn't go
Speaker 4: to school, you couldn't have a bank account, you couldn't vote,
Speaker 4: you couldn't, you know, either to work.
Speaker 1: For somebody else that's why they stayed in their relationships.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or work for yourself. And one of the ways
Speaker 3: you could work for yourself is that.
Speaker 4: So I wanted how women use this sexual prowess is
Speaker 4: in exchange for their freedom, some kind of something interesting,
Speaker 4: a means of survival, right, because it wasn't always now
Speaker 4: where they're actually real hard choices.
Speaker 3: So I want to play amandam. I can see I've passed.
Speaker 3: I passed the sex worker face. It would be I
Speaker 3: don't know Land with Phild I think, well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: The Magic City well, and I do want to say,
Speaker 1: because even your role on the Shy, you have that
Speaker 1: type of power, you know, as like the dawn, the
Speaker 1: you know, the boss take care of it.
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes people kind of fall into a place
Speaker 4: of power. And so Alicia, you know, her brother was
Speaker 4: the one, was really the one, and she was doing
Speaker 4: all this, but he's gone.
Speaker 3: You know, and Rob is you know poor. Don't talk
Speaker 3: about myself.
Speaker 6: I need you to be a nice trying to be
Speaker 6: a good boy. No, I love That's what I don't
Speaker 6: want you're talking about it.
Speaker 3: I love him. Yeah, she just wants him.
Speaker 1: To be and be strongest family. And it's one thing
Speaker 1: that a.
Speaker 4: Parent never wants to think that they might leave this
Speaker 4: earth and that shall not be strong enough to handle it.
Speaker 1: In the process.
Speaker 3: That's real.
Speaker 2: You got him shot. That's freaking I was so mad.
Speaker 3: I am so damn it. You know, I have to
Speaker 3: just be in it. I can't judge. But you know,
Speaker 3: when she's over that bed, you know who she feels.
Speaker 1: You could see her it's it's about to go down.
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying. You fall into it because
Speaker 3: he could have done three more days. Lord, three more days,
Speaker 3: didn't do it, so that meant that put it back
Speaker 3: on her, yeah, to do.
Speaker 4: So sometimes you fall into having to be and I'm
Speaker 4: nervous you are and I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Well, you fell into it, but you were ready ready,
Speaker 1: you know, And that's why you always gotta stay ready,
Speaker 1: so you ain't got to get ready as they say, right, yes,
Speaker 1: because it's kind of like you know, fate and destiny
Speaker 1: is balls into your lap because it was meant to be.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes like that and things like that. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, Alicien them they kind of on the dark side.
Speaker 3: But it all through life. Stay ready for the good,
Speaker 3: for the bad, for the gifts.
Speaker 2: Well, I think Victor is going to do it or
Speaker 2: Alicia do.
Speaker 1: What off with?
Speaker 3: Oh goodness, you know you're just jumping.
Speaker 1: Yeah, trying to make some predictions, trying to figure it out,
Speaker 1: you know the way they work over there.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't even know the spread.
Speaker 1: Would y'all be sad to see do to go? Because
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm not gonna be sad. Sometimes we like the
Speaker 1: bad guy in the show, Well.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm sad to see anybody go. But Douda
Speaker 2: is a mother fudger.
Speaker 1: But it's all. It also makes it interesting.
Speaker 6: It does because he does have a so every story
Speaker 6: is a product of his life, but he has his
Speaker 6: loyalty is to himself and what he wants. At the
Speaker 6: end of the day, no matter what his feelings are
Speaker 6: for anybody around him, he is focused on what it
Speaker 6: is that he wants.
Speaker 2: Anything that he can do to get to that, He's
Speaker 2: gonna get to it.
Speaker 6: But as people like that message, family and baby, whether
Speaker 6: I or someone is gonna happen.
Speaker 4: But she's not gonna give you this, you know, right,
Speaker 4: You know you shoot all kinds of you don't know
Speaker 4: what's gonna make it. You don't know what, you know,
Speaker 4: we all gonna watch it together, but you know I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be ready for whichever one, whatever it.
Speaker 1: Is, whatever it is now, I told you about the
Speaker 1: Josephine Baker connection, but also Lady May right, May is
Speaker 1: my meddle name, and May like that. Really yeah it is,
Speaker 1: so I just you know, I just feel like this connection.
Speaker 3: But the few times that we've just hung in the world,
Speaker 3: I feel a connection.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I tell you, I was first of all,
Speaker 1: this is crazy to me, but I love it. So
Speaker 1: tell Grace you know we're sisters now, just so she knows. Now,
Speaker 1: I want to make sure you understand everybody who's in here.
Speaker 1: So Ggi has a lot of amazing things happening, and
Speaker 1: she is also narrating the Magic City documentary docuseries and
Speaker 1: they got picked up by a major network by the way,
Speaker 1: So she was in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when you said you wanted to play a madam
Speaker 1: if there's a Magic City movie, Pee Valley, one of
Speaker 1: the main characters was based on Gigi.
Speaker 3: Really which you want?
Speaker 5: Mercedes really like her storyline is like very very like
Speaker 5: eighty percent of my real life really you should write
Speaker 5: the movie honestly, or like I sometimes feel like if
Speaker 5: you want to.
Speaker 1: Roll, you have to create it. You created and you
Speaker 1: said that, Okay, you have I can see it, like
Speaker 1: you could even collaborate, have a writer, have writers, but
Speaker 1: I could see you creating that because that would go.
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 4: I think I have to really contribute to the actual
Speaker 4: story because I I really do understand what it should be.
Speaker 1: And Jordan is the last ever Playmate cover Playboy Playmate
Speaker 1: of the Year cover.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and only one of four black women.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and.
Speaker 1: She's right now on Summer House Martha's Vineyard, which actually
Speaker 1: just it's like Josephine Baker in an episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah really yeah, oh congratulations. Yeah, people, you're both telling stories,
Speaker 3: yes as well.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is, don't we think that you
Speaker 1: should create what it is that you want to see?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like, who wouldn't want to work with you?
Speaker 1: Who tells you no?
Speaker 3: Well, I guess you have to ask to find out.
Speaker 1: Nobody's telling you no. I'm just saying, and I would
Speaker 1: love to see that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna that that is it is in my
Speaker 3: soul so hard.
Speaker 1: But when you do it, I'm right now.
Speaker 6: I'm following my dreams of being an actress that I've
Speaker 6: been wanting to do since I was younger, and I
Speaker 6: just put it out there in the universe.
Speaker 1: So if you do that, please do think that.
Speaker 8: I said, yeah, Friller, well yeah, we just manifested a whole.
Speaker 3: Well, you know like that.
Speaker 4: It's been going on for decades and decades and decades
Speaker 4: and centuries. So before there was a poll, there was
Speaker 4: still because that's an art form. It no doubt that
Speaker 4: that's even different than what I'm talking about. The strength
Speaker 4: and power and all of that.
Speaker 5: But the mental because you have to deal with rejection,
Speaker 5: You have to deal with competition, You have to deal
Speaker 5: with people frowning down upon you were talking to you,
Speaker 5: were disrespecting you. You know, you have to always keep
Speaker 5: your head high and just stick to your goals. You
Speaker 5: also have to stay away from the bad influences that
Speaker 5: the club life can bring, like the drugs and the
Speaker 5: pimps and all that stuff. So it's it's not as easy,
Speaker 5: and you have to act like people think that an
Speaker 5: exiet entertainer is just getting on stage, shaking ass and
Speaker 5: going home counting a bunch of money and it's not
Speaker 5: right at all.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: One time, I think it was Magic City that I
Speaker 4: went to one m girl and it was like right
Speaker 4: after it was like, here's what happened. All of my
Speaker 4: fin Line fans and ship they started buying me lap dances.
Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, you know than.
Speaker 4: This is.
Speaker 3: I was like, I didn't know that that would be
Speaker 3: the impact, because you know, you go and in Atlanta,
Speaker 3: it's like people going to hear jazz.
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, it's so cred about that, RIGHTID It's very
Speaker 6: much the regular thing to do.
Speaker 5: It's just it's the first time Angela came in Magan City.
Speaker 5: I was in the middle of doing the laft dance
Speaker 5: and when she walked in, I ran up and hugged her,
Speaker 5: not thinking in my mind, and I'm completely naked, and
Speaker 5: she's like, here's what happened.
Speaker 4: So they all up on the wall and stuff and
Speaker 4: going because she was inching over. I mean, I got
Speaker 4: bought so many left and I was gifting them to people,
Speaker 4: right and so, and this girl looked down at me
Speaker 4: and she said.
Speaker 3: Oh, miss Whitfield. I said, girl, you working, don't stop now.
Speaker 4: It was like, you know and so and then I
Speaker 4: did talk to you know, and just hearing people's stories
Speaker 4: because like with me, you know, some women felt compelled
Speaker 4: to tell me, well.
Speaker 3: This is why I'm here.
Speaker 5: Story was what completely different, completely everybody's reason is their reason.
Speaker 5: Exact path that gets them through that door is a
Speaker 5: different path.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just really interesting.
Speaker 4: So it's one of my fascinations how women have used
Speaker 4: the themselves as a powerbroker in some kind of way.
Speaker 4: I mean, I still think it's valid to look at
Speaker 4: and talk about and tell stories about from different angles
Speaker 4: and from different points in history.
Speaker 5: Well, the thing with the documentary is it's a three
Speaker 5: part documentaries. It touches on the owner, who is a
Speaker 5: black man mad the city has been owned by the
Speaker 5: same black man for going on forty years, to be
Speaker 5: forty years and twenty five. He did a nine year
Speaker 5: jail stint in the FES for drug conspiracy, still owns
Speaker 5: the club. Clearly he has a family. The whole Atlanta
Speaker 5: hip hop and the whole. Like you know, a lot
Speaker 5: of hip hop artists careers being started in the strip
Speaker 5: club dances known as the unofficial A and RS. Then
Speaker 5: you tie in the sports, the politics. There's so many
Speaker 5: different celebrities, young and older, who speak into There's sixty
Speaker 5: different people. Drake Jermaine Duprie are executive producers. Jamie Gertz,
Speaker 5: who owns The Hawks, she's also an executive producer. And
Speaker 5: it's such a huge project. It's just I'm still just
Speaker 5: like amazed that it's even happening. Like, I know, I've
Speaker 5: done the work, I've seen the first episode. You know,
Speaker 5: I know that it's very much a real thing. I
Speaker 5: know that we've been picked up by major network, But
Speaker 5: until I actually sit in front of a TV and
Speaker 5: watch it, I still can't.
Speaker 1: Everybody's tweeting about it. Yeah, I still can't.
Speaker 5: Even believe that it's you know, this summer. Like literally,
Speaker 5: the press conference is any day now.
Speaker 3: I am waiting on the.
Speaker 5: I am literally waiting on the car. I know that
Speaker 5: production the moment I see one of those numbers pop
Speaker 5: up on my phone, I know that that very next
Speaker 5: phone call I get from them is going to be it.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, So I'm literally just waiting on the
Speaker 5: call so excited. I'm so just like because for so
Speaker 5: long as an entertainer, and I was really young when
Speaker 5: I started, because I was the single parent, and you know, again,
Speaker 5: everybody has their own story. But for so long I
Speaker 5: got frowned upon and from even for my own family
Speaker 5: members and people who just did not understand what it
Speaker 5: was that I was actually doing. They took what they
Speaker 5: thought I was doing and you know, dumped that on
Speaker 5: me as I was doing something terrible, and I really
Speaker 5: was doing something that was art. Strip is art, And
Speaker 5: I was quoted by saying that at our premiere at
Speaker 5: south By Southwest by a variety dot com, thank you
Speaker 5: to them. And strip really is art. It's more than
Speaker 5: just taking your clothes off of money. It's so much
Speaker 5: more than that, and the artist is being celebrated. And
Speaker 5: I feel like it couldn't be a more better time,
Speaker 5: you know, with everything else that's happening within the space
Speaker 5: and within just like music and politics and everything all combined.
Speaker 5: Like if this was going to happen, this is the
Speaker 5: perfect time for it to happen. And I'm just so
Speaker 5: grateful to be a part.
Speaker 3: Of it and my group.
Speaker 5: Like I initially my phone call was just do an interview,
Speaker 5: and then the interview turned into narrating. The narrating turned
Speaker 5: into I have produced a credit.
Speaker 3: I said it on the pitch.
Speaker 5: I was a part of the pitch so I set
Speaker 5: in on every single pitch.
Speaker 3: Than cheers.
Speaker 1: We love to see it and all that you say,
Speaker 1: it's trying to write your own Yes.
Speaker 5: And you know, someone in the industry, in your industry
Speaker 5: who I enjoy very much is like a big sister
Speaker 5: to me that I feel would be a great person
Speaker 5: to maybe go uh work with in that space is
Speaker 5: Tasha Smith. Tasha, She's an amazing woman. She's an amazing director.
Speaker 5: She has a dance background from way back in the
Speaker 5: day as well, and I worked with her on a
Speaker 5: project that never was released back in like twenty fifteen.
Speaker 5: But she has that same like. She will always tell me, like, girl,
Speaker 5: when it's time, I'm gonna write the movie about your life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I really feel like that could be.
Speaker 3: She's doing great work directed.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, absolutely, I'm telling you, well, listen, I'm
Speaker 1: excited for everything that everybody here has going on, all
Speaker 1: the manifestations that happened today. And you know what I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you to, would you ever get married again?
Speaker 3: If it was like a god thing, if it was
Speaker 3: you know, I don't feel a need to marry, but
Speaker 3: if it happened and it was really really really.
Speaker 4: Joyful and comfortable and all that, but I still don't
Speaker 4: really see a need to marry.
Speaker 3: But you never know, say never, say never are you dating?
Speaker 3: I want to do you have any idea?
Speaker 2: So I'm doing like the spade.
Speaker 1: They didn't think.
Speaker 4: They are not.
Speaker 1: Okay into She's not even getting on.
Speaker 2: It's not on that app it's face to face.
Speaker 1: Who you want?
Speaker 4: All those people coming and sitting in the see being
Speaker 4: nervous and going just they would I know.
Speaker 1: What miss Lambeckfield needs is to meet somebody in person,
Speaker 1: through somebody who she knows and respects. And she tried
Speaker 1: to folks, you know, and I kind of feel like
Speaker 1: I could see you with like a way way up
Speaker 1: with Cupid, but like a handsome thirty five year old
Speaker 1: period giving you know.
Speaker 3: I'm not really interested. Didn't pushing it, you know, like
Speaker 3: I just look at the moat.
Speaker 4: You gotta look it down the yes and you know
Speaker 4: where at the point we had to look for a
Speaker 4: few they turned quickly.
Speaker 3: We have to I don't know, so put it out
Speaker 3: there in the universe. I mean, forty five would.
Speaker 1: Be okay, forty five fair enough, forty five nice? That's
Speaker 1: oh for you though, that's too o for you. I
Speaker 1: see thirty five.
Speaker 3: I just feel five year old man just to be
Speaker 3: great energy, the right energy. I like you, right person.
Speaker 1: I see somebody taking you on trips flying private.
Speaker 3: Are you all listening?
Speaker 5: Hello?
Speaker 3: Is this thing on?
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: Tapping sound check sund checks.
Speaker 5: You needs six more weeks in the South of France
Speaker 5: every summer.
Speaker 1: Well, missling with Phil. I am so excited. I cannot
Speaker 1: wait to see like when we reconvene and maybe like
Speaker 1: a year and everything is in progress.
Speaker 3: My god, you mean to tell me I'm being held accountable.
Speaker 1: Because accountable, Yes, we're making this movie. We're making don't
Speaker 1: figure it out, but it's such a pleasure to have you.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get together and go see Grace Gibson. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go see her do and that'll be a good time.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna said, We're gonna sit some psachy. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna act up this time. You're gonna be on shachi.
Speaker 1: And as soon as I find out, imagine.
Speaker 3: She listens, she enjoyed the time with you.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, We will definitely keep you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta have you as my special guest at
Speaker 5: the premiere.
Speaker 1: Yes, get her a leftance.
Speaker 6: I gotta try this at Homemination was there and they
Speaker 6: were like, yeah, yo, see I don't trust it because
Speaker 6: they were like, look, we can to have a time.
Speaker 6: I already know because that's how we get down ladies.
Speaker 3: Well, I've enjoyed it. Such interesting women, and I think
Speaker 3: we had a very serviceable conversation. I think so for
Speaker 3: our listeners, I.
Speaker 1: Feel like I want to go to Puerto Rica learn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely want to beautiful.
Speaker 3: So much of what we are is what we put
Speaker 3: in in us, you know, and I.
Speaker 1: Know, I mean food.
Speaker 3: You know what we eat.
Speaker 1: We are okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And sometimes we just have to give up our systems
Speaker 3: a break from.
Speaker 6: All of them, breaking down all of that processed food
Speaker 6: and all of that. So you're right about that, but
Speaker 6: I'll tell you.
Speaker 3: More about it off offline. Well I know, but I'm
Speaker 3: not stopped. But I found the thing that worked.
Speaker 1: Yea, all right, all right, Well you guys, it's lip service,
Speaker 1: amazing day. I sheiate it. We appreciate you, we love you,
Speaker 1: we honor you, we charge listen to have you in
Speaker 1: our presence.
Speaker 4: Thank you