1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: All right, it's another episode of Splash Hit Territory and 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: we usually don't work on a Sunday. We usually don't 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: do this on a Sunday, but we got breaking Giants news, 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: so Susan and I decided to jump on today with 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: this breaking news. It's an emergency podcast and we're joined 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: again by our frequent contributor, Susan Slester. Susan, we got 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to talk about today, we do. 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: I love this Luis Oris news so much. And you knew, 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: you kind of knew right that he might be a 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: good fit for the Giants, just the way that Buster 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: Posey keeps signaling he loves contact hitters, really high contact hitters, 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: and you don't get better than that than Luisa Rise 13 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: in the major leagues. Right now, he's got some downside. 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 2: We'll we'll talk about that a little bit. But I 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: asked about him back in the winter meetings. I was 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: digging around and they check. It was one of those 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: well they've checked in, but I don't know if they're 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: really a fit. I didn't really And then we started 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: hearing they're going to do it with a trade. They're 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: going to do it with a trade, and second base 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: not necessarily an area I think where we thought that 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: was a necessary upgrade. No, you know for real, but hey, 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: I'll take loose rise anytime. I love his game limited, 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 2: I guess maybe as you could argue that it is. 25 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: What do you think about adding a I mean, two 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: time batting champ, three time All Star guy, led the 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 2: league in hits last year's twenty eight. 28 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: Three time batting Champ hit three fifty four in twenty 29 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: twenty three and had two hundred hits in twenty twenty four. 30 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: I think if you have a lineup that doesn't have 31 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: a lot of pop and doesn't have and doesn't have 32 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: a lot of strikeout that a guy like Luisa Riise 33 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: is just another guy. But when you're talking about the 34 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: Giants and they're big swing in the miss hitters, and 35 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: I have it right here, Chapman struck out one hundred 36 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: and twenty six times. And this is no offense of 37 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: these guys. They're great major league players, they're great hitters, 38 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: and they're power hitters. So power hitters are going to 39 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: strike out. But when you have a guy like Chapman 40 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: struck out, I got it right here, one hundred and 41 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: twenty six times. And five hundred and thirty five played appearances. 42 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: He was hurt a lot last year. Willie Diamond struck 43 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: out one hundred and seventy nine times in six hundred 44 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: and eighty six plate appearances. Dever struck out one hundred 45 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: and ninety two times last year between the two ball 46 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: clubs and seven hundred and twenty nine appearances. Bailey struck 47 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: out one hundred and thirty three times and four hundred 48 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: and fifty two played appearances. That's twenty four hundred and 49 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: two strikeouts between four hitters, which in today's game is 50 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: just kind of the way it's going. But now you 51 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: sprinkle a guy in there that struck out twenty one 52 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: times in six hundred and seventy five played appearances last year, 53 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: puts the ball in play. And here's the thing about 54 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: striking out too. Like everybody used to say, Vladimer Guerrero 55 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: doesn't strike out. He swung at the first pitch every time. 56 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: I don't even think he got to a two strikeount. Ever, 57 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: he was a good, bad ball hitter. Luisa Raise is 58 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: a little bit different in the sense that I've watched 59 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: some of his bats that were super spirited, where he'd 60 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: fall off five or six three two pitches, flip a 61 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: line drive in a left field. He's a guy that 62 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: I wanted the Giant to get when he got traded 63 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: to the Padres from the Marlins. So I'm happy that 64 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: he's here. I think they need a little more contact 65 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: in their lineup. They need a two strike approach, which 66 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: he definitely has. He's a tough out man, and that's 67 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: a term, Susan, we don't use in baseball very often anymore. 68 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: It used to be the ultimate compliment when a manager 69 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: would come up to you and say, dude, you're a 70 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 1: tough out. We don't use tough out anymore. Luisa Rise 71 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: is a tough out. 72 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 73 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: And this isn't a guy you would think would necessarily 74 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: be all that eager. 75 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: To come to San Francisco. 76 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: His numbers Oracle are kind of average, maybe a little 77 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: less than his average. It doesn't really profile as a 78 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: guy that you would think would be looking to move 79 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: to a place like Oracle Park. But the Giants were 80 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: the team that told him you can come here and 81 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: be the everyday second baseman. That was his priority, one 82 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: hundred percent his priority. The Giants have guaranteed, well, I 83 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: don't know if guarantee. It might be a strong word, 84 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: but they have told him this is the plan going 85 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: into the season, and that's what he wanted. He turned 86 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: down multi year offers elsewhere for this reason. Now, the 87 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: obvious thing here is that Luis A. Rise is not 88 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: a great defensive player, So you're giving up a little 89 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 2: bit on defense. And they've obviously, i mean just the 90 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 2: day before they make a huge move with Harrison Vader 91 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: to improve their defense. How do you look at this 92 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: now defensively and maybe with some of the you know, 93 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: a Rise isn't he doesn't have much power, he's not fast, 94 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: but he's a guy who's probably going to hit at 95 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 2: or near the top of the lineup. 96 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: Well, first things first, Wash is going to be a 97 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: busy man at this stage in his career. He's got 98 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: some work to do with a young first baseman who's 99 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: the number one prospect in the organization, Bryce Eldridge, a 100 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: converted third baseman to first base in Raffie Devers, and 101 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: now you throw in Luisa Rise to the mix. So 102 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of ground balls hitting spring 103 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: training on field three and while is going to have 104 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: a lot of work to do. But Wash loves that 105 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and he's just a master at that. 106 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: He's taking below average fielders and made him average fielders 107 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: to above average fielders. So I guess in Wash we 108 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: trust with this whole thing. As far as why he 109 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: picked San Francisco, it might be Ron Washington. It also 110 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: might be the fact that there's a lot of room 111 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: for hits to fall in this ballpark. And if you're 112 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: singles hitter, you don't care about the dimensions. You care 113 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: about is there space for my singles and doubles to fall? 114 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: And he's the last guy that cares about the ball 115 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: carrying to right field. What did he hit? I got 116 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: it here. Eight home runs last year. He's not a 117 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: home run hitter. But you know, he did have thirty 118 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: doubles last year, so he's not this slap judy guy 119 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: that everybody's trying to put on him. And man, I've 120 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: been on this guy for a long time. I'm super 121 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: excited that he's a Giant. I think they need some 122 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: contact in the lineup. I'm not strangely worried about second base. 123 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: I think when you have such a solid left side 124 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: of the enfield and maybe a developing right side of 125 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: the Enfield that you're going to see a lot of 126 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: progress with his defense. I don't remember his defense. I've 127 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: called a lot of his games. I've seen him play 128 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: a lot. I remember him being a tough out. I 129 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: remember him barreling up the baseball and having an act 130 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: to get the barrel to the baseball wherever the pitch is. 131 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: So for me, the concern isn't about second base. I'm 132 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: super perplexed that a lot of Giants fans weren't excited 133 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: as I was about this last night. And obviously I'm 134 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: trying to stay off social media. I talked about it 135 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: on KMBR the other night when I did the show 136 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: because it's such a negative place, but I couldn't be 137 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: more excited to have this guy wearing the orange and black. 138 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: Well, this is this is what it looks like in 139 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 2: today's chronicle. After my report last night, I would I 140 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: think fans. My impression is that fans are fired up 141 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 2: about this. You know, this is this is a known 142 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: this is a name, this is a name guy. And honestly, 143 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: we spent so much time talking about the Giants slow winter. No, 144 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: they didn't get tyle Kucker Tucker. Only one team gets them. Well, 145 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: they didn't get Cody Bellinger. Okay, maybe they're not after 146 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: fran Bervaldez, but Batter and Arise answer very specific needs 147 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: for them, and really, I'm surprised at a kind of 148 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: a bargain price the Giants indicated going into the spring, 149 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: into the offseason they don't want to give a lot 150 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: of long term deals. They've got better on a two 151 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: year deal. They've got a Rise, who again is twenty 152 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: eight on a one year, twelve million dollar deal. I really, 153 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty impressed with the patience they showed 154 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: to kind of reeling these guys now. Again, Arise, I 155 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: think was after investigating a lot of trades at second, 156 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: but we looked at the draft at the draft last 157 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: year and the guys that Buster got as returns in 158 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: those midseason trades, a lot of high contact players. He 159 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: likes this kind of guy. So Man brought bargains I 160 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: think both of them, and improved the team very specifically. 161 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: I think that's really small, and I think people are 162 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: gonna there's gonna be pushback on that, I think, especially 163 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: given a Rise defense, and there's there's gonna be some 164 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: rough times. But you mentioned wash I that whole season 165 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 2: where Washed was brought in specifically mid season to mentor 166 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: Marcus Sumian with the A's after he had made a 167 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: zillion errors in his first month at shortstop, and he 168 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: turned him into a good shortstop and of course now 169 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: he's a gold glove second baseman. He turned him into 170 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: a very good fielder that was extraordinary, even better than 171 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: his work with Eric Chaves, which of course led to 172 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 2: six gold Gloves. So yeah, can he can he make 173 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: Luis a rise a gold lever? Probably not? Can he 174 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: make him maybe average somewhere? 175 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 3: Maybe, like maybe at least. 176 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: Into sort of the not negative defensive run saved maybe 177 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: maybe well, you. 178 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: Know, a couple of things come to mind. The Giants 179 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: probably had to go a little bit higher for the 180 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: one year deal on the salary, right, and maybe the 181 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: two year deals were the sevens or eights or whatever. 182 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. 183 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 3: For a guy like that. 184 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: The other thing is he's confident, he knows he can hit. 185 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: He's betting on himself. He didn't need a two year deal. 186 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out hit three thirty this year again, 187 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: and that's really cool. The guy that comes to mind 188 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: is one of wash His greatest accomplishments. Is Zazzie Alby's 189 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: the second baseman for the Braves. Ozzie was okay at second. 190 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he was bad, but Washington Azzie Albi's 191 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: into a really, really good defensive second basement. He took 192 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: a young Dansby Swanson at shortstop and turned him into 193 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: a gold glover from a pretty decent shortstop. I saw 194 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: him his rookie year, and he was making some plays 195 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: where he looked young, and then once Wash got a 196 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: hold of him. Freddie Freeman's always been good at first base, 197 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 1: but when Wash got a hole of him, he went 198 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: to the next level too. So it's hard to explain. 199 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: It's hard to articulate on here, but he was my 200 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: coach for a year, and I've said this before, so 201 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: I'm repeating myself. He showed me things at second base 202 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: at age thirty five that I had never heard before, 203 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 1: on how to simplify the game and how to make 204 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: it easier and how to not try to do too 205 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: much at second and the whole backhand thing where he's 206 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: just like this way with the backhand. A lot of 207 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: guys go this way and the ball hits and drop 208 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: straight down. But it was more like back toward the 209 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: hitter with the backhand softly. He called it raking back 210 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: toward the hitter. So all of these things that he 211 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: taught me with the double play feed and the pivot 212 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: from second base because it came up as a shortstop 213 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: and so everything was backwards, and he just and I 214 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: was kind of fighting that feed my whole career, and 215 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: he started teaching me things about like getting your fingers 216 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: behind the ball, and when you flip it this way, 217 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: it stays online. But if your fingers are this way, 218 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: the ball can go up, the ball can go down. 219 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: So he knows what he's doing, and he's, like I said, 220 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: he's got a lot of work to do. But I'm 221 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: not concerned about Raffie Devers at first, and I'm not 222 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: concerned about Luisa Raise at second. 223 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned about her, definitely not concerned about Devers. 224 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: I think Devers could wind up being Gold Glove level. 225 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 3: I really do. 226 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: He was an okay, great third baseman, but man, he 227 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: was starting to look really good at first base. Which 228 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: I was just talking to a Red Sox fan this 229 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 2: morning who was bemoaning the fact that Bregman's gone. They 230 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: don't have Devers and here he is playing first base 231 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: for the Giants and pretty well. So oops, oopsie, what 232 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: happens now to Casey Schmidt. 233 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I'm a big Casey Schmidt fan 234 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: and a believer in this kid that he could be 235 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: a dude. I saw in your article today that I 236 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: don't know if you got any word, but now he 237 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: could be a trade piece in the last minute trade 238 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: before spring training. I would make him a super utility player. 239 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: He would take ground balls at short, second, and third 240 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: every day. Again, Wash could help him with second base, 241 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: which is kind of a process for him. I think 242 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: shortstops probably his weakest position of the three, but he's 243 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: got the arm for it. But this guy just adds 244 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: a certain flavor to the lineup into the clubhouse. The 245 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: guys love him. A super likable dude. He's a grinder. 246 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: He plays hard every night. He takes it serious. He's 247 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: the fun guy that everybody has fun with in the clubhouse, 248 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: whether they're ragging on him, whether he's ragging on them. 249 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: He has value to this team. I don't know if 250 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: he could play the outfield, but I sure as hell 251 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: would try. In Scottsdale, I'd throw him out in center. 252 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: I'd throw him out and left and just see what 253 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: he can do. I know he'd throw people out. And 254 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: I always thought susan outfield was so much easier than 255 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: the infield because it's all you have to do is 256 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: care about it. It's all you have to do is 257 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: hit the cutoff man and then you know you got 258 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: to practice at it. So he's got the athletic ability 259 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: to do that. So maybe you make him with Tony 260 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: Phillips or right handed hitting Tony Phillips. Well, Tony was 261 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: a switch hitter. 262 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: Well, here's my thinking. They have a rise for one year. Look, 263 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: if it goes well he wants to stay, which certainly 264 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: could be the case, they can resign him. Fantastic. They 265 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: clearly like Nico Horner, who will be a free agent 266 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: after the season. I think they go hard after Nico Horner. 267 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: I'm not sure there's I think Casey Schmidt could be 268 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 2: in everyday third basement in the big leagues. 269 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 270 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: I think it might be best for Casey Schmidt to 271 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: get dealt He's also after Bryce Eldridge. Probably their best 272 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: trade piece right now, especially for teams that have a 273 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: need at third base. They've been getting calls on him 274 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: ever since they signed Matt Chapman. Hey, we need a 275 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 2: third baseman. Would you consider moving Casey Schmidt? Obviously they haven't. 276 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: They love Casey Schmidt, like this is none of this 277 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: is anyway anything negative about Casey Schmidt. I mean, they've 278 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: just got a three time batting champion. That's understandable. You know, 279 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 2: the guys they were talking about in trades outstanding second basement. 280 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: But I do think the fact that they've been focused 281 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: on second base means maybe they are ready to you know, 282 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: they have other needs. They don't have a closer, they're 283 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 2: light in the bullpen. Still, overall they could use another starter. 284 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: Who couldn't there are specific needs that maybe if you 285 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: trade someone like Casey Schmidt you could feel pretty easily. 286 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: So I just I'm you know, look, I don't have 287 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: any special insight into this. It just makes sense that he, 288 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: now without an everyday position, might be more valuable to 289 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: another team and might bring in something nice. And they 290 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: certainly have their needs. 291 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 3: But I'm with you. 292 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of Casey Schmidt. I also really 293 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 2: like the job Christian costed. I think for that kind 294 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: of role, a backup, shortstop, backup second baseman, some third pitching, 295 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: like whatever we want. I really like the job Christian Costed. 296 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: That's tough, you know, when you're not playing every day 297 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: for somebody like that. He handled it pretty well. They're 298 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: trying to make Tyler Fitzgerald into a super utility guy. 299 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: He's a little bit older than Casey Schmidt. 300 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: Casey's still only twenty six, so he's still in sort 301 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: of prospect territory, you know, moving a little bit out 302 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: of it. But you know, I am a big fan. 303 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: It's going to be this is going to be one 304 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: of those things that if he doesn't get moved here. 305 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: Going into the spring, I think we're all going to 306 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: be keeping a close eye on every team that potentially 307 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: has an injury really anywhere in the infield and what 308 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: they might want to pony up for somebody like Casey 309 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: Schmidt because he could start for an awful lot of teams. 310 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: I think the. 311 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: Other thing I think that is now very interesting is 312 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: the Giants lineup right. You could come up with all 313 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: sorts of interesting possibilities. Jung Hu Lee was the guy 314 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: who always started profiled as the leadoff man. He's got 315 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: the speed which a rise does not have. What do 316 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: you do here now? Because they you know, this also 317 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: evens out the lineup. He's a left handed hitter. I 318 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: think that they've got some the makings of a very 319 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: interesting sort of top six seven. Really, I mean it 320 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: gets it's pretty decent all the way down to if 321 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: you consider Patrick Bailey's second half not bad at all. 322 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: Well, you go left right, left, right, left right and 323 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: make it a tough on opposy managers. If you did 324 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: lead off Rise he can't run. He's not slow, but 325 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: he's not fast. Somewhere in between, say. 326 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: He will still do it even if you lead off 327 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: Willie or if you lead off Junghu. I mean, it's 328 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: it works out up and you know Bailey's a switch hitter, 329 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: so either way that's going to work out. 330 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: I've never really been a big, especially in today's game, 331 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: worrier about the lineup because it changes so frequently throughout 332 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: the year, based on matchups, based on who's pitching. There's 333 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: not too many teams in baseball that just throw the 334 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: same one through nine out there every day. I'm sure 335 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: it'll be Drew Gilbert leading off on occasion, I'm sure 336 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: it'll be Jung Hulee leading off I'm sure it'll be 337 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: Luis a Rise. Who knows how the lineup starts. It's 338 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: just you have to get the productivity out of the 339 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: lineup on that day. And guys will tell you, especially 340 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: old school guys like I always love to know that 341 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: I was hitting forth and this guy was hitting behind me, 342 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: and this guy was hit in front of me. And 343 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: I used to talk about it in DC a lot 344 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: early on, because there is something to a flow and 345 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: a continuity and a rhythm of a lineup when you 346 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: can know who's hitting behind you and how they're going 347 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: to get pitched, and know who's where I'm hitting and 348 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: how I'm going to get pitched because it's the same guy, 349 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: it's the same team. I know, I know it helps 350 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: the flow of everything, but it's just not the way 351 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: that today's game is designed. But hell, if he's hitting good, 352 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: he get third for me, Arise, he's going to put 353 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: the ball in play. He's not a big RBI guy 354 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: when I'm looking at it, but he did have sixty 355 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: one runs driven in last year in six hundred and 356 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: seventy five played appearances. So I mean anybody that puts 357 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: the ball Felipe Elisi to say this all the time, Susan. 358 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: If you don't put the ball in play, I can't 359 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: use you in my lineup. And it's a different kind 360 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: of day right now. Because Felipe used to hit and run. 361 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: You want the guys to roll over and get the 362 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: guy over and do all the little things offensively. He'd 363 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: love to send a guy three to two with one 364 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: out and then at the very least you expand your 365 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: zone and put the ball in play. So I know 366 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: it's different now, but there's so much swing and missing 367 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: the Giants lineup. This is going to be refreshing to 368 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: see a guy that at the very least, at the 369 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 1: very least is going to run up pitch counts. 370 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 3: How do you see the middle of the order? 371 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 2: You know that you're looking at, like say Chapman Endeavors Elliott. 372 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 3: Ramos, Where do you kind of see that going? Who? 373 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: Ideally, who do you want hitting third? Who do you 374 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: want to hit hitting cleanup? Where do you want these 375 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: guys who's hitting behind? 376 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: Who? Oh? A little old school in this, like the 377 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: new school thought, is your best hitter either leads off 378 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: like Shoyotani or bets second, because you know, over the 379 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: course of one hundred and sixty two games they get, however, 380 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: forty fifty sixty more bats. But I like my best 381 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: hitter hitting third. I like Devers hitting third all year long. 382 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: Just leave them there. I like Willy hitting second, and 383 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: I like Chappie hitting forth or or whoever. Elliott if 384 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: he decides that he's gonna have another All Star, Y're 385 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: talking to him yesterday at the fan fest. He's working 386 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: harder than he's ever worked before, and a lot of 387 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: different things. So there's different ways you could go with it. 388 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: Just the key thing is that on the matchup that day, 389 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: that the guy behind you're protecting the hitter in front 390 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: of you, so you just don't. You just can't walk 391 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: Devers because all of a sudden, so and so is 392 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: hot and he could do damage. And that's how you 393 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: know you pass the baton kind of mentality. Take your 394 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: walks because you have the confidence and the guy behind 395 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: you to get the job done. And I think when 396 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: the Giants were struggling last year, the guy at the 397 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: plate felt like he had to get the job done 398 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: because I know dude behind me is one for his 399 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: last twenty. So now you start to get outside of 400 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: what you really do. 401 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 2: So well, Yeah, it's going to be so fun to 402 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: see some of the lineups toward the end of spring 403 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: training and kind of see the way Tony Vaitello is 404 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: thinking about all of this. Do you think you know, look, 405 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: we've beaten it into the ground the this is the 406 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 2: toughest division there is and they're in a you know, 407 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: you got the Dodgers to deal with, But is this 408 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 2: now a team you think that could be that could contend? 409 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: I thought it was a team that could get contended 410 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: before our eyes. I do just being around the guys 411 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: at these fan fests and the functions I'm doing and 412 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: here in their attitude and what they think about the 413 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: new coaching staff as a whole, not just Tony, but 414 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: the whole coaching half is coaching staff as a whole. 415 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: I asked every guy that came up on stage in 416 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: Sacramento yesterday, like, have you talked to your new staff? 417 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: Have you talked to the new pitching coach? Have you 418 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: talked to the new hitting coach? Names I should probably 419 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: learn if I'm a broadcaster, But they all have and 420 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: there's been great communication going. They're all in Scottsdale right 421 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: now the ramp up, So yeah, yeah, They're all excited. 422 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: And I know we say this every years. I was 423 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: so excited. Bob Melvin's a new manager. We do say 424 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: this every year, but this year, in the functions that 425 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: I've been to, and I've been to a lot, the 426 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: fan base is really excited. So if you do stay 427 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: off Twitter, you do stay off social media. The majority 428 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: of the Giants fans are excited about this season. 429 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: Tell me about FanFest. I obviously saw you there briefly yesterday. 430 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: You then raced off to do a lot of MC duty. 431 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: Any tidbits what jumped out to you? How do you 432 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: assess that fan fest? 433 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: A number of things. First of all, seventeen thousand fans 434 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: were there. They had twelve thousand San ramon the week before, 435 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: and seventeen thousand fans were at Sutter Health Park in 436 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: Sacramento yesterday. And just interviewing those guys, we just just 437 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: started getting real baseball and talking. Willie Adamas is a 438 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: rock star. I mean when they announced his name, it 439 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: was like Justin Bieber's name was announced. It was all 440 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: screams and yells from girls and fans were going nuts 441 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: about Willie Damas and he's such a nice guy and 442 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: he's signing autographs everywhere. And I asked him on stage, 443 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: I said, where did this come from? Where did this 444 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: like great teammate come from? Where you really care about 445 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: everybody in the clubhouse and you always have a smile 446 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: on your face whether you're doing well or whether you're 447 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 1: doing not. And he said it was his parents and 448 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: instilling that in him at a young age. You probably 449 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: know this from talking to him. And then I asked 450 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: him about the slow start, and I said, you know, 451 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: I liken it to somebody with a new job, or 452 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: someone kid that goes to a new school that you 453 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: don't know your classmates, you don't know your teachers, you 454 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: don't know even how to get around the campus, or 455 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: if a new job, you know all your new coworkers 456 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: and your boss, and it takes a while. Like baseball 457 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: players are human beings, it takes a while when you're 458 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: in one place and you've had a lot of success 459 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: and you're a fan favorite to go to another place. 460 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: And he had a really interesting point, Susan. He agreed 461 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: with all that. He said, the first time his home 462 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: field has ever been outdoors, He said, he played at 463 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: the Trap and he played at Miller Park, in Milwaukee 464 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: or American Family Field whatever they call it now Family Field, 465 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: I think. 466 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: So. 467 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: He said that was a big adjustment for him with 468 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: the elements, and I said, freezing your ass off and 469 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: he said, yeah, freezing my ass off. So that's something 470 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: I hadn't heard him say about his adjustment period last year. 471 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: And he said about halfway through the season, right around 472 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: the All Star break, he was worried about underperforming. He 473 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: just like, let it all go, so I'm just going 474 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: to go out there and do my thing. And then 475 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: the numbers ended up being where they should be at 476 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: the end of the season. 477 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's really going to have a big 478 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: season this year. You could see the jitters and then 479 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 2: things spiraling last year after signing a big contract, which 480 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 2: that's not unusual in this day and age. 481 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: The contracts are so big and guys want to do 482 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: more and. 483 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 2: They put heat pressure on themselves and it's just not 484 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: the way they've played before. That happens a lot. But 485 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: I met his parents last year during spring training. Irwin 486 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 2: I Garos was the Giant's broadcaster and a Spanish speaking 487 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 2: media relations person, was nice enough to sit me down 488 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 2: with them so I could talk to them about Willie 489 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: and Oh my gosh, nicest people in the world, as 490 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: you might imagine. But WILLI had said like, look, my 491 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: mom's not going to say anything. She's kind of shy. 492 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 2: She is so proud of him. Like I was like, 493 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: I think, you know, moms like to talk about their sons. 494 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 2: I think your sellatters short. She I mean, I think 495 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 2: she's the key man. 496 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 3: She was awesome. 497 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: But he's from a small town near Santiago that sounds 498 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: like just a great, really pretty nice little town, close community. 499 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: Everybody really, you know, kind of looks out for each other. 500 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 2: So I think that's you know, the community too, I 501 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 2: think has really impacted him. I'd love to go there. 502 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: It sounds it sounds amazing. So yeah, big fan. We 503 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 2: kind of veered off, but the one thing I asked 504 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 2: Willy yesterday was have you had the Well actually asked 505 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 2: quite a few quick things, but the one I wanted 506 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 2: to know most was is Buster talked to you yet 507 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: about the hugging people, because he's been talking about how 508 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: he doesn't dig guys, you know, kind of fraternizing before 509 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: the game with the opponents, and he was like, man, 510 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: I was joking, and I was like trying to take 511 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: that away from me, but he's like, I'm gonna try. 512 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 3: It's gonna be really hard for me. 513 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: He's like best friends with it. It seems like everybody 514 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: in baseball. He's just that kind of guy. 515 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: So nobody ever says a bad thing about him. And 516 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: now I'm getting to know him over the last year, 517 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: so he's one of my favorites big time. I also 518 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: got to the bottom of the Robbie Ray grunt thing. 519 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: It was in twenty seventeen and he was, you know 520 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: that story where he's pitching some Marlins and he had 521 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: a real bad bullpen, and his pitching coach pulled him 522 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: aside and said, I just want you to go as 523 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: hard as you can for as long as you can. 524 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: Don't worry about your bullpen. He said, his last pitch 525 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: in his bullpen, he threw halfway up into the stands 526 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 1: and he just didn't know where it was going. So 527 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: the first pitch he went out there and he went ah, 528 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: and he let it rip, and he said that was 529 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: how that whole thing started. He had a pretty good 530 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: outing and from then on and then the tight pants 531 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: after he gained like thirty pounds one year in spring training, 532 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: had a good spring and stuck with the tight pants forever. 533 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he told me that. He told me that the 534 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: Mariners Club club. He's just kept going like you sure, 535 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: we can get you new paints. It's like, are you 536 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: sure about that? Things like sticking with the pants. When 537 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: he gets a thing, He's like, this is a guy 538 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 2: who's just going to stick with it if it's work. 539 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 3: And I respect that. So but yeah, the. 540 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: Grunting thing sort of turned into this little you know, 541 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 2: it's like a legend. I've talked to the pitching coach 542 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 2: and that, like, like, I don't think anyone was expecting 543 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: the grunting to come along with it, but yeah, I mean, 544 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: dude's an all star. Like, if you want to do 545 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: the Monica Sella's grunt, go ahead, whatever whatever you need 546 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: to do. So, yeah, that was a fun fan fest 547 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: and it was weird because look, the river Cats play there. 548 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: But that is also the the I can't stop saying 549 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: Oakland A sorry FP you played for him. 550 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: I covered him. 551 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: The Sacramento A's is the Chronicle refers to them. It's 552 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: their home park. So somebody asked somebody from the Sacramento 553 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: b asked, Robbie Ray, have you ever done a fan 554 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: fest in an opponent's stadium before, and he was like, no, 555 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: but we're going to make it work. 556 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 3: So that's that's Robbie. 557 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 2: He's just gonna make whatever whatever weirdness is, he's going to. 558 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: Make it work. Twenty eight February or late January, Giants 559 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: fan Fest is going to be in Las Vegas. I 560 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: heard at the new at the new ballpark there. So 561 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: we had a great time yesterday. I'll tell you what 562 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: it's supposed to get the fans excited about baseball. I 563 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: got the broadcaster excited about baseball yesterday just being I mean, 564 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: if you're within five feet of Willia Domas, your day 565 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: is better just by being within five feet of that guy. 566 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, they had an They had a really nice group there. 567 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: It was that was really fun. So kudos to the Giants. 568 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: It was great to see Dusty Baker, who's been working 569 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: with the team. He's an advisor and you know he's 570 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 2: mister Sacramento. You're me and you guys are both in 571 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 2: the Sacramento Baseball Hall of Fame together now. 572 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: So but one of the greats. Yeah, wasn't see big. 573 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: I thought your article on Dusty was one of the 574 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: better ones I've seen in a long time. With the 575 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: quotes you got from Dusty about African American managers in 576 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: the big leagues. And if you read between the lines, 577 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: there some if you get a chance, read Susan's piece 578 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: on Dusty that's in today's Chronicle. I don't know when 579 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: you guys are going to watch his podcast, but just 580 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: google it. He had some He had some pretty powerful 581 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: quotes in there. 582 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he has long been he benefited, he 583 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 2: felt from Frank Robinson and Hank Aaron really trying to 584 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: increase the number of black managers and coaches when they 585 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 2: were still really heavily involved in the game and at 586 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: that kind of level. Aaron is an executive and obviously 587 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 2: Frank Robinson is an executive and as a manager and Dusty. 588 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: That's how Dusty got started as a as a coach 589 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: and then a manager. And he said he's just not 590 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 2: seeing it anymore. And I asked, like, look, the Giants 591 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: one minority candidate that they brought in for this job 592 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: as Kurtzuzuki, do you feel like that's satisfactory? And he said, well, 593 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: it's everybody. You know, He's not going to single out 594 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: the Giants and I don't think he necessarily should, but 595 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: he said he's getting calls from black candidates and they 596 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: are just they're not getting interviewed, and that's a shame. 597 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: I mean, there really should be more African American players. 598 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 2: I know MLB really has done a lot of outreach 599 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: into traditionally black neighborhoods, trying to support. 600 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 3: A lot of the local little leagues. 601 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: There's an academy in LA that has really turned out 602 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 2: a lot of talent. But man, there's so it's such 603 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 2: a rich sport. It's such a great tradition of great 604 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 2: black players in the game, and I would love to 605 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 2: see more. But I also love to see more people 606 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: leading today's players, coaches, managers, executives. Goodness gracious, not enough 607 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: minority is. And look, we could argue the politics of it, certainly, 608 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: but this is a sport that has an awful lot 609 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 2: of minorities playing it. When you look at all the 610 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 2: Latin players and now a huge influx of Asian players, 611 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: and you'd like the leadership to reflect maybe the the 612 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: playing group a little bit more. 613 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: Well said one of my one of my favorite people 614 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: and one of the biggest influences of my life was 615 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: the first Dominican born manager in the big leagues and 616 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: Felipe lous So I couldn't agree with everything you said more, 617 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: all right, do we got to do some merch stuff? 618 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: Should we do some? 619 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 3: Why not? Why not merch? 620 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: I gotta find my splash hit hat. I just got 621 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: it to hear. Well, no, it's somewhere around here. Anyways. 622 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: I got my splash hit hat today. It's super cool 623 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: and all the merch is super cool. I don't know 624 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: what I put it. Keep that up for a second season. 625 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll talk about it because I I I think 626 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: I mentioned a week or two ago that I did 627 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: a little shopping trip and I got a lot of this. 628 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 3: The shirts are so. 629 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 2: Here's a hat, which which which version of the hat 630 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,239 Speaker 2: did you get? You're gonna show up? 631 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: I got the black hat with the logo on the front. Okay, 632 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: we had to pay for it, by the way. 633 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, hey this stuff, this is this is nice stuff. 634 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: So I've got it all up. 635 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 3: Now did you did you want d up getting the beanie? 636 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 3: Because you've been talking about the beanie a lot. 637 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: I got this one. 638 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: Oh nice? 639 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: Is that sick? 640 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 641 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 642 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 3: I got I mean I got presents for people. 643 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: Not snapback, which I like. I guess you can get 644 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: snapped back too, but i'd like this the fitted one. 645 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 3: So well, take a look. 646 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: If you're on YouTube, there's the merch section is right 647 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: below d on the pod page, so it's it's all 648 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: easy to find and it's really good stuff. So yes, 649 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: I support us. You know, we're still uh, we're still 650 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: hoping to get to that three K mark. We're inches 651 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: stelly that way. 652 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: Tell your friend you know what I did. I forgot 653 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: to like say our podcast yesterday from all the Giants fans. 654 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: I kind of dropped the ball in that, but Susan, 655 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: I wore it out on KMBR this week. I did 656 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: three shows on KMBR and they were probably sick of 657 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: hearing about. Oh yeah, I'm frequent contributor Susan Slusser and 658 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: I have this podcast called Splash Hit Territory and Bruce 659 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: Bochi is going to be a guest, by the way, 660 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: thanks to boats. That was amazing getting a lot of 661 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: love from Giants fans about having Bruce Bochi on the 662 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: other day, So we can't thank him enough for coming 663 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: on our pod. 664 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: I really I enjoyed watching that one. That was you know, 665 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 2: I'm sad one of the times I can't join you, 666 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: but that was way better. 667 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: Thanks. 668 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 3: Oh stop, I. 669 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: Had I had a kid. Yesterday, Fan Fast say, I 670 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: go to UC Davis and I listened to your podcast 671 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: walking between classes every day. He goes, I love you guys. 672 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, and a lot of Giants fans are pulling 673 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: me aside yesterday. So it's gay and steam and it's 674 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: it's cool that Giants fans are appreciating us on the area. 675 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: Got any last thoughts before I signed off. 676 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: Well, we're getting close to spring training. I will be 677 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: going down there for the vast majority of it and 678 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,479 Speaker 2: just take like a tiny little break at one point, 679 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 2: but I will be there, so I will be chipping 680 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: in from there a lot. 681 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 3: I think we'll probably. 682 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: Be previewing spring training coming up here soon, so maybe 683 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: we could try to get a guest to help us 684 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 2: preview that. We'll we'll we'll talk about that. But that's 685 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: things are going to start getting really interesting. 686 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 3: These moves late as. 687 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 2: They work income and really have made this a much 688 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: more interesting team to talk about. 689 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 3: So we're must go. 690 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm excited. Well, maybe we could do a podcast from 691 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: Scott Stale together because I'll be down there for the 692 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: last three weeks, so I'm down. 693 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 3: I'm down. 694 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:20,719 Speaker 2: You can reprise our pubcast and find some spot, all right, it'll. 695 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: Be that place is debaucherous. I don't know if we'll 696 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: too noisy, all right, Susan, great job as usual. I 697 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: will see you soon and we'll have it, and we'll 698 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: have this up shortly for you guys. We'll have another 699 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: one later in the week. Like I say on the 700 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: way out, every single time, swing hard in case you 701 00:32:36,840 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: hit it on Splash Hit Territory two