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You know, I last week, 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: during our first week here of Buck Saxon with America Live, 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: I was talking a bit about how we had the 22 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: fortune of being able to bring you breaking news despite 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 1: the fact that there's been much of the news cycle 24 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: already already had already had been going on throughout the day, 25 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: And the same thing is true tonight. It looks like 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: right now there's some movement on a couple of very 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: important political topics. We have the likely we we have 28 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: some movement on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals and 29 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: Judge Robart out there in Seattle, Washington. There's a call 30 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: going on tonight to figure out what the next steps 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: there will be, and town hall dot com reporting that 32 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: the Trump administration has already put in the paperwork for 33 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: an on bank, on bunk review of all of the 34 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: Ninth Circuit or it's actually not all, because the Ninth 35 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: Circuit is so big, but a larger quorum of the 36 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: Ninth Circuit judges. We also have the possibility and I 37 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be coming up in about an hour 38 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: of a vote on Steve Mnuchen, Treasury Secretary. Now you'd 39 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: think that this wouldn't be such a big deal, that 40 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: there are other issues that the left would focus and 41 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: of course they can't get enough of how terrible the 42 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: Trump administration is and all the things that they can 43 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: complain about and point out and try to undermine and 44 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: try to shake the confidence of the American people in 45 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: this new executive branch leadership. But we saw with Betsy 46 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: Divos that there is no there's no role in the 47 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: Trump administration that is safe from their hatred. And Steve Mnuchin, 48 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: who was the subject the unfortunate target of fake news 49 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: before it's the guy who's gonna be Treasury Secretary, has 50 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: all the credentials you'd want in somebody who's going to 51 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: be involved in a very senior economic and financial role 52 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: in the government. A guy who is making sure that 53 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: he pays attention to where all the money's going and 54 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: what we're spending and what we're doing monetary policy. Minuchin 55 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: has that covered. You'd think he's somebody who should be 56 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: able to get through this process pretty quickly. But they 57 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: ran stories, uh some of the media ran stories about 58 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: how he was part of a company that for ran 59 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: a company that foreclosed on a widows home. I believe 60 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: for seventy nine cents never happened. Totally fake. But as 61 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: we've seen, these fake news stories keep popping up, and 62 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: they're always in the same political direction. They seem to 63 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: have a consistent theme, and that theme is, well, if 64 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: it's terrible about Trump, it must be true, even when 65 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: it's not or one of his advisors or somebody in 66 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: his administration. But I do think that they finally that 67 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: the media and the left believe that they have cornered 68 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: a senior member of the Trump administration. Here. We'll be 69 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: talking about this more, I believe in the next hour 70 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: as well. You have National Security Advisor Flynn, Lieutenant General Flynn, 71 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: career military officer, who has gotten into some trouble here. Um, 72 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: it's not clear exactly what's going to happen because it's 73 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: not clear what was said and done yet. And much 74 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: of this, of course, is coming to us from media 75 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: outlets that are overtly hostile towards the administration. They may 76 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: not admit that, but anybody who reads their stories or 77 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: watches their broadcasts on a regular basis would come to 78 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: that very obvious conclusion. They have wanted to get somebody 79 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: in the Trump administration in hot water, and they're now 80 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: calling for the firing of As I said a career 81 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: military officer who is currently a national security advisor. There 82 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: are so many stories about process and bureaucratic dysfunction with 83 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: regard to this White House, with regard to this new 84 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: National Security Council. National Security Council, by the way, you're 85 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: here spoken about a lot. I had some familiarity with 86 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: it back during my time as a CIA analyst, interacted 87 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: with the National Security Council on numerous occasions. And these 88 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: these are generally civil servants, subject matter experts who have 89 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: either regional or functional expertise regional and area, continent, functional 90 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: counter terrorism, something like that. And they're all upset because 91 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: this new administration's come in, and of course they must 92 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: be talking to the press about how these meetings are going, 93 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: some of these civil servants. So once again we run 94 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: into the built in hostility, the permanent hostility of the 95 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: permanent government, in this case, the civil service bureaucracy. There 96 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: are stories about senior Trump officials appointees as opposed to 97 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: civil servants, people who have their job because Donald Trump 98 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: and his top people thought that they would be good 99 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: in the job, as opposed to someone who is a 100 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: government employee assigned by their home agency, for example, to 101 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: work at the n s C. They're saying that there 102 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: are issues with the politicization of these meetings that in 103 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: at least one meeting, the nsc A NFC senior personnel 104 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: um and this gives a deputy National Security Advisor, according 105 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: to The New York Times, told everybody that when they 106 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: have to make America great again. I don't. I would 107 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: assume that that was said somewhat tongue in cheek, but 108 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. I wasn't in the room. But there's 109 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: leaks all over. There are leaks all over the place 110 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: right now, if you believe the press. There's another whole 111 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: aspect to this story, which is that isn't it fascinating? 112 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: The media jumps all over And if you saw the 113 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: interaction between Steven Miller, senior policy advisor for the Trump 114 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: administration on Sunday and George Stephanopolis, who is openly again 115 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: openly antagonistic, at hostile towards Miller. I mean the way 116 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: that he spoke to this guy, the exchange that they 117 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: had is like, I mean, you know you're the worst. 118 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: You don't have any you know, have any evidence. So 119 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: I understand we can hold the White House to a 120 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: different and higher standard than we hold major news organizations, 121 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: and I think we should. I think we do But 122 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: on the flip side of this, it is fascinating to 123 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: me that we're supposed to the American people are supposed 124 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: to come to very important judgments about how their government 125 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: is functioning and what's happening with their government based upon 126 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: anonymous sourcing that journalists who are overwhelmingly hostile to the 127 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: administration will never have to disclose to us and never 128 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: have to verify. And we know that they have run 129 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of fake news stories the last few months, 130 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: so they are asking for some degree of faith. I 131 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: don't know if you want to put that degree of 132 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: faith in their reporting on matters that are specifically damaging 133 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: the administration, but we'll see. On this issue of General 134 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: Flynn and the National Security Advisor, it was said at 135 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: the time that he spoke. And I also have to 136 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: point out just as there are leaks from the NFC 137 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: about how dysfunctional the NSC is right now and how 138 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: there's there are meetings going on where there's no lights 139 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: on because no one can find the light switch. I'm 140 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: not making that up. That's not an exaggeration. It's actually 141 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: what I believe it was. Washington Post, the New York Times, 142 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: and forget that they jumbled together in my brain. So 143 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: those are two news sources that are the you know, 144 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: the New York Times post. I mean, it's all the 145 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: same thing to me, um, But they were They actually 146 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: reported that there were some meetings going on in and 147 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: or in the White House in the dark, and we 148 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: could find a light switch. It seems a little a 149 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: little much, but maybe that's the case. I don't know. 150 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: It could be hard to final light switch. Maybe they 151 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: have to clap or something to get it to go on. Um. 152 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: But Mike Flynn had this phone call. That much has 153 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: been confirmed with the Russian ambassador. It seems very likely 154 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: that we learned about this phone call as a result 155 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: of again a leak, perhaps a very high up league 156 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: from the previous occupants of the White House, But we 157 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: don't know. But leaking classified to harm a senior or 158 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: any government employee, but to harm a very senior administration 159 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: official is about as dirty as politics are gonna get 160 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: in this country. And that's how it's illegal, should be 161 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: pointed out. Not that anyone's going to care about that now. 162 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: But here's the other side of this as well. Doesn't 163 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: seem like Flynn was necessarily totally upfront about the contents 164 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: of that conversation based on what's been said since then, 165 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: and that wouldn't necessarily be a problem. Wouldn't be a 166 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: problem because I think most people that support Trump are 167 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: just gonna say, all right, well, he got caught for 168 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: a second, and who cares. The phone call is not 169 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: that big a deal. But based on the reports, and 170 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: again I don't know if they're true, and I can't 171 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: run around independently verifying every news report, so I can 172 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: just read it with skepticism and try to get to 173 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: the facts. He may have not told Pence, the Vice president, 174 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: what was going on, and that maybe an unforgivable sin 175 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: for this administration, and that may lead to the first 176 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: senior administration official we know of in real hot water 177 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: and possibly losing his job only a few weeks in 178 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: the administration. I don't think that's going to happen, but 179 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: the calls for are getting very allowed. What do you 180 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: think about this Flint situation? What do you think about 181 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: the minution vote tonight? And of course the Ninth Circuit 182 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: on bunk review eight four to five Bucks Sexton with 183 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: American Now, Buck Sexton back with you all now, eight 184 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: four four nine zero zero b u c k in 185 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: cases your first night tuning into Buck Sex in American Now. 186 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: A little background me. I'm former CIA analyst, also spent 187 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: some time at the MYPD Intelligence Division for counter terrorism 188 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: and then moved on to the Blaze. I have worked 189 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: at CNN. I have appeared many times on Fox News 190 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: doing radio and TV for the last going on six 191 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: years now, I guess yeah, so there you have it. 192 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: And I filled in for Rush, Glenn and Sean, So 193 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: we have h Glenn nine to twelve and Rush twelve 194 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: to three, Shawn three to six, and now Buck six 195 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: and nine Eastern with America Now. 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If we have time, we got cheating 206 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: on Netflix, cheating rather, which is not really cheating. It's 207 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: just a fun way of saying it. I got so 208 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: much show, you gotta stay with me through the rest 209 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: of it. But I want to get back to the 210 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: Mike finish, because this is breaking right now. We have 211 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: at least some reports in that General Flynn has apologized 212 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: to Pence, according to ABC News here, for misleading him 213 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: about the Russia call. Again, people will deal with a 214 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: lot because they see that there is this complete, all 215 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,479 Speaker 1: out effort to annihilate the Trump presidency before it even 216 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: gets going. Two. Take this administration out politically as quickly 217 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: as possible, and there's a lot of the way that 218 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: people will give Trump those who at least are open 219 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: minded about the Trump administration. You don't have to be 220 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: a Trumpster. You just have to or a Trumper, whichever 221 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: is the preferred nomenclature. You've just got to recognize the media, 222 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: and I say media. We can democrats, media, the left, 223 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: We can use those interchangeably here on the show, and 224 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: we will. But they want to destroy. They're not looking 225 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: to reform, they're not looking to moderate, they're not looking 226 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: for a third way, a central path. None of that 227 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: they want payback. Hillary supposed to be the president. Always 228 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: remember that in their minds, Hillary is the rightful president 229 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: of the United States. It was fake news and Russia 230 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: and the FBI director call me. They're the reason that 231 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: Trump won and and all the bad things about this country. 232 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: They're the reason that Trump won, Not because the American 233 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: people wanted something different. That's what the left believes, all 234 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: of them put together. But when you have people from 235 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: inside of Trump's inner circle, when you have his most 236 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: trusted personnel having problems when it comes to trusting each other, 237 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: then these news reports about a dysfunctional White House and 238 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: about a lack of clear communication and processes and bumbling 239 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: and fumbling, all of that starts to even to those 240 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: of us who discount a lot of the media stuff 241 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: is smears, we start to say to ourselves, maybe there 242 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: are some problems here. It sounds like this is a problem. 243 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: And it was pretty clear on Sunday when you had 244 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: Steve Miller, who's up there, who's obviously a very sharp guy, 245 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: you know, actually a very smart guy. Um his delivery 246 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: I leave to you to decipher to determine for yourself 247 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: whether it's effective for you or not. As a as 248 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: a means of communication, as a communicator for the administration. 249 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: But he's certainly a smart guy. He was asked about 250 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: Flynn specifically, and he got a little uh evasive play 251 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: the clip. Please don't answering the policy questions that you have. 252 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: General Flynn has served his country admirably, is a three 253 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: star general. He's head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, and 254 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: I look forward to having more discussions about this in 255 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: the future. So the White the White House did not 256 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: give you anything to say other they did not give me, 257 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: the general anything to say. You cannot so you cannot 258 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: say asked there, asked an answer check the President askedon 259 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: answered he's and his answer was that General Flynn service 260 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: country honorably, honorably, which he did, and that he had 261 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: nothing really more to say other than that. Um. And 262 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: that's now not all that's out there. As I said 263 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: to you, at least ABC News is reporting and they 264 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: may retract it. Keep in mind, there was a report, 265 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: what was it last Friday, or maybe it was Thursday, 266 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: forgetting the last week we reported you here Alive that 267 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: a major news sources were saying that Trump administration had 268 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: already said they would not seek uh they would not 269 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: seek to appeal the decision of the Ninth Circuit, And 270 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: and then within minutes it's like, actually, you know, psych 271 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: we are going to appeal that. WHOA, okay, that's a 272 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: quick turnaround. Who would have thought so? And we'll find 273 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: out more about that tonight. I think whether where that's 274 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: going and the processes that will be in place for that. 275 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: And keep in mind their twenty nine active judges and 276 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: the Ninth Circuit, so an eleven member panel would be 277 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: convened for the case if it goes to on bank. 278 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: I feel like we should come with a better term 279 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: than that. But on bonk hearing right, borrowing from the 280 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: borrowing from the French. Speaking of which Trudeau we have 281 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: to talk about is his meeting is miss il justin 282 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: the Trudeau, the Prime Minister of Canada, is very very 283 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: smooth today on the Prescoon ference. No may we hello, ladies, 284 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: this is Missieur Trudeau. I come down to your country 285 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: to make now see you get two French, you start 286 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: to get German. That's the problem. You gotta keep it, 287 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: you gotta keep it clear in your head. We'll get 288 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: back to Missieur Trudeau later on, but for now, the 289 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: the circling the wagons that the Trump team has had 290 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: to do. And I say to you, sometimes, you just 291 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: you might as well just jump into the trench, because 292 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: you're either with the left on their desire to utterly 293 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: destroy this administration and everybody who works in it. They 294 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: want their reputations ruined, they want people to go to prison. 295 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: And I know people can say, oh, but look at 296 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: about no. I'm sorry. I was alive during the early 297 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: weeks of the administration, and you do not have every 298 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: major newspaper and every major channel with one exception, with 299 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: a just a constant frenzy of anti Trump administration stories 300 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: opposing them on policy. Just it's so clear that they 301 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: are in opposition, that they're not bringing you information and 302 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: letting you decide. That they have come up with a 303 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: narrative and they're trying to feed that narrative, not just 304 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: by picking and even cherry picking facts, but in some 305 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 1: cases manufacturing facts. This is a problem, my friends. This 306 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: is something that should bother all of us, and I 307 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: think I'm sure it bothers many of you. But with Flynn, 308 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: if he if he wasn't keeping it keeping it real, 309 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: if you didn't give the straight scoop to Pence, and 310 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: then Pence goes out there and looks foolish. You can't 311 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: have that. I've been around enough senior administration officials and 312 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: senior intelligence community UH people that the moment that there 313 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: is lack of trust between them, I mean, you've really 314 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: especially on the national security side, you all you all 315 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: got to be on the same team. And that means always, 316 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: all day, all the time. Does we have to agree 317 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: all the time, but it just means there has to 318 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: be trust and a sense that the mission is all 319 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: that really matters, the mission of defending this country, protecting 320 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: this country, and that means you can't let other little 321 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: things get in the way. You can't allow the media 322 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: to create fissures and breaks between you and those around 323 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: you that you have to have at your side, because 324 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: we know that they're going to get criticized on the 325 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: policy side. We know that they're going to be saying 326 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: that whatever Trump does in the Middle East viause of 327 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: each China, Easy, Mexico, you name it, they're gonna come 328 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: after that. But it can't be dysfunctional on the inside. 329 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: There has to be a united front. And if I 330 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: think they might let this one go, we'll see. But 331 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: if General Flynn has to step down at the National 332 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: Security Advisor ends up resigning in month well really month 333 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: one and a sensibly on the second month by calendar. Uh, 334 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: it's just gonna make the media that much more fired up. 335 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: They're gonna think that they're back and they can do 336 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: whatever they want. Buck Sexton with America now where there 337 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: is always something to talk about, where you can trade 338 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: opinions with Buck. I'm not sure you'll win, though. Just 339 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: call eight four four nine D Buck. That's eight four 340 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: four D to eight to five. Alright, Buck, you're on, 341 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: all right. Buck Sexton back with you now, and we 342 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: are joined by Ben Shapiro. He is the editor in 343 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: chief of Daily wire dot Com, a syndicated columnist, host 344 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: of The Ben Shapiro Show and The Morning Answer. Ben, 345 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: thank you very much for calling in law. I'm good. 346 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: Thank you. Let's start with the the Nine Circuit, the 347 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: Obunk review, and the way forward for this immigration order. 348 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: Where do you see the state of play right now? Well, 349 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean I think that appealing to the Supreme Court's 350 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: mistake because it's likely to split for for with Justice 351 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: Kennedy making sure that the executive order is basically struck 352 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: down at the Ninth Circuit level. I think the smart 353 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: thing if Trump wants to uphold this thing, the smart 354 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: thing for him to do is just to wait until 355 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: gorse it's just confirmed order to rewrite the executive Order 356 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: in the first place. The Ninth Circuit decision, by the 357 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: ways in atrocity, I mean they're there are a bunch 358 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: of reasons legally speaking, wid it's ridiculous. The most obvious 359 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: is that it basically says that any state can now 360 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: sue the federal government on any immigration policy that bars anyone. 361 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: So if there's some random dude in the top of 362 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: mountain and Yemen, as I think it was I think 363 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: it was Adam McCarthy at National Review put it, if 364 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: there's some dude at the top of mountain in Yemen, 365 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: that dude now has a right to enter the United States. 366 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: According to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeal. There are 367 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of other problems with it. It It basically says 368 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: that everybody, including illegal immigrants, has the rights d process 369 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: under the Constitution. It suggests that they're allowed to look 370 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: at statements that are made outside of the law and 371 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: outside of the legislative history of a piece of legislation 372 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: or an executive order in order to determine me the 373 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: contents of the executive order, which is dangerous stuff also 374 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: wildly inconsistent. I mean, if that were the case, then 375 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: certainly would have behooved the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals 376 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: to say that Obamacare was attacked, considering that Barack Obama 377 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 1: kept saying continuously that it was attacked after it was passed. 378 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: But the legal decision is ridiculous. That doesn't mean the 379 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: role out of this thing was good, that it was 380 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: legally well written, or that the best strategy here is 381 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: who appealed to the Supreme Court? Then I know you 382 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: went to Harvard Law School. I'm guessing that if I 383 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: asked you to guess, there are plenty of professors, both 384 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: at at Harvard and at other elite law schools across 385 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: the country who certainly like the outcome here, but would 386 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: probably also find some way to defend, and even in 387 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: front of their classrooms. I assume would defend the decision somehow, 388 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: because I've heard people doing this on TV and they 389 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: always sound foolish, but some of them have fancy titles, 390 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: and no question, I mean law schools are basically dominated 391 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: by the left, and that means that they participate in 392 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: what we call legal realism. The idea is that if 393 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: they like the outcome, then they'll justify the logic that 394 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: it took a guest of that outcome, which is just 395 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: bad jurisprudence. It's being a bad judge. And the fact 396 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: is that they actually could have come up with some 397 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: grounds to strike this thing down if they wanted to. 398 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: They could have claimed that the Naturalization Act doesn't allow 399 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: discrimination on the basis of religion or ethnicity, and that 400 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: that Trump's the the executive order provision that Trump cited, 401 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: that that provision from the US Code that was test 402 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: in that would have been at least applausal explanation. They 403 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: didn't bother sighting to either the Statute or the Constitution. 404 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: Didn't even bother sighting the executive order. Again, there are 405 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people who are going to say that 406 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: this thing is illegal, this executive order is illegal, but 407 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: the Ninth per Circuit didn't even bother to make any 408 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: sort of basic legal arguments. Speaking to Ben Shiro of 409 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro, who is the editor in chief of Daily 410 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: wire dot Com, I want to ask you about a 411 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: piece on the Daily Wire Bend Saturday Night Saturday Night 412 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: Live turns into the anti Trump revenge Brigade. We have 413 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: a quick clip we want to play of Mlissa McCarthy 414 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: as Spicer. Play it. It's easy. It's extreme vetting, extreme vetting. 415 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: But what does that mean? Extreme vetting? What does it mean? 416 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: It means it's extreme. Spices cant explain it, so you 417 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: dumb babies can't understand it. So I guess I can't 418 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: use my big words everybody. Now. I wish Ben that 419 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: we actually could play for you. We don't have it 420 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: looted up right now. But the other uh anti administration, 421 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: I mean, look, the Melissa McCarthy one I think is 422 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: a little more borderline. The one that went completely off 423 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: the rails and was mean spirited and clearly meant to 424 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: demean in a way that you would never see on 425 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: under democratic administration. Was the Kelly and Conway Jake Tapper. 426 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: She is a stalker. She's pulling out a knife, she's cursing, 427 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: she's completely unhinged and crazy. This isn't laughter and good fun. 428 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: This isn't conservatives or people like me, and you're putting 429 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: it out being snowflakes. This is just nasty, underhanded and 430 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: intended to undermine. Agreed. I mean, I think that the 431 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: Melissa McCarthy thing, I'll admit that the first time she 432 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: did the show on Spicer thing, I thought it was hilarious, 433 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: pretty funny doing funny. Um. I thought that coming back 434 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: to the dead horse and then beating it into into 435 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: a skeleton, that was a little much. But but that's 436 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: not a big deal. I think the Kelly on Conway 437 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: thing was was agreed, just not really because of the 438 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: psycho Kelly on Conway portrayal, but because of the sexuality 439 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: of it, the notion that she was trying to get 440 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: up in Jake Tapper's business. Kelly and Conway is a 441 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: mother of four, she's married mother of four, and Jake 442 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: Tapper is a married father of two. I mean that's 443 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: I thought that was over the top. It was clearly sexist. 444 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: If it had been directed at anybody from the left, 445 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: everybody would have said that his sexist. Can you imagine 446 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: them doing the same thing about Hillary Clinton and her 447 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: desire to be on the news all the time. Everybody 448 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: would immediately said it was sexist, But you can do 449 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: it's Kelly and Conway, no problem. I'm not a fan 450 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: of Kelly on Conways and I thought it was ridiculous 451 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: and over the top. But SNL has has now made 452 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: it clear that their their mission is to take off 453 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: Trumps like that. That's at least half of what they're 454 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: trying to do. Now it's not even being funny as 455 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: much as it is Can we drive Trump to to distraction? 456 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: Will he tweet about us? And if he does, will 457 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: that raise our ratings? Now? I know you also go 458 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: and speak, and you recently a campuses. You recently spoke 459 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't Mark Marquette. Is that right? Um? And and 460 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: you address student body there are are you sensing that 461 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: the hostility towards the Trump administration that exists in the media, 462 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: that's beyond anything that I've ever seen in my lifetime 463 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: in terms of the way the media is portraying this, 464 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: I mean the way they it was hugs and kisses 465 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: for Bush and comparison what we're seeing for Trump. How 466 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: is that playing out with students? I'm sure the faculties 467 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: at all these places are predominantly not entirely I had 468 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: a conservative thesis adviser, but I mean predominantly not so 469 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: on this. But how are the students. There are some 470 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: of them starting to recognize that they're being fed stuff 471 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: that's just not true, that's not fair, that's not even handed. 472 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: I think there's a contingent that are starting to get 473 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: annoyed with it. I think there's as most people on 474 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: the hunt left are still going cycle over Trump. I mean, 475 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 1: it's only it has a been a monthy yet I 476 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: think that, you know, there is a contention of people 477 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: who are interested in hearing a different point of view, 478 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: and they're willing to come in here. And especially you know, 479 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: I'm in a little bit of a different situation because 480 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: I am not a Trump apologist. There's some of these 481 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: speakers on campus who actually are. I'm not a Trump apologist, 482 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: so that gives me a little bit of added credibility 483 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: when I speak in front of kind of lefty college students. Um, 484 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: but I do we just lose Ben? Sorry, Ben, you 485 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: dropped a sec Go ahead. I think we are going 486 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: to reach the edge point here where they're but the 487 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: psychotic work with reality. We we're gonna the new stuff 488 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: to the top. Ben Shapiro is the editor in chief 489 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: of Daily Wire dot Com, syndicated columns, host of The 490 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro Show and The Morning Answer. You also check 491 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: out his pieces on National Review. Ben appreciate you making 492 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: the time. Thanks for joining, and we're back buck sexing 493 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: with America now here with all of you. Please call 494 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: into me eight four four nine zero to eight to 495 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: five eight four Buck b U c K like my name. Uh, 496 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: let's take Eric in Alabama. Eric, you're speaking of buck 497 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: rock and rolling, sir? How about you? Yeah? The same 498 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: down here? And um yeah, sorry the call dropped the 499 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: other day. I was enjoying our conversation. Oh, no problem, sir. 500 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Hey? I just wanted to think 501 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: this is a correct, pot hair brained idea. Okay, you 502 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: remember Salt one and two start the trees. We tried, 503 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: you know too, and at the time, you know, the 504 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: Soviet Union was just as concerned with we were at 505 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: a you know, global nuclear nihilition or they said they 506 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: were anyway, I don't know, you know, just how um 507 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: you know sincere So Union was during those treaties that 508 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: we tried to have with them, I hear, Eric, let's 509 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: bring this up a speech. Where are we now? Sure? Sure? Sure? 510 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: What I'm wondering is Okay, we worry about Iran. Could 511 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: the big play the US working behind closed doors at 512 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: the upper end, at the highest levels of power on 513 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: a big plan of strategic arms limitation plan where we're 514 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: gonna work in sync and sync with the the former 515 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: Soviet the Russia. And I know that nukes have spread 516 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: out so much now that there maybe there is no 517 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: containing them. But could they maybe turn their backs and 518 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: let us go into Iran and take out the NIP 519 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: their nuclear program in the bud and let that be 520 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: the first domino in the second the the one that 521 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: and you probably know much more about it, can get 522 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: some good insight on this. Yah. I don't know if 523 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: he caught in O'Reilly's interview with Trump the other day 524 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: when he mentioned, uh, their conversation with his conversation with 525 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: Obama on the way of inauguration, and he said it 526 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: surprised him what he thought that Obama thought was our 527 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: biggest thread, our biggest in the world, our back stabbing friend, 528 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: possibly Pakistan, Uh, you know, another nuclear power. So when 529 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: we're we're covering a lot of territory here, Eric with 530 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: with your question, I mean you're asking if if maybe 531 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: the Trump administration is planning to work with to work 532 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: with Russia to take out Iran's nuclear program, and maybe 533 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: also to contain Pakistan. And it's I I what the 534 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: Pakistan question. I'm not sure how that ties into others, 535 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: but maybe that's a separate question because I thought maybe 536 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: that could Paul pably get India to give up theirs. No, 537 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: I'll be look, I'll I can. I think I've got 538 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: enough here to to give you some sort of a natswer, Eric, 539 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: and I thank you for calling it from Alabama. I 540 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: don't I don't see nothing that the Trump administration is 541 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: gonna do is gonna get India or Pakistan and give 542 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,479 Speaker 1: up their nukes. That that I think is foreseeable. Um, 543 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: So that's we can start there. And then in terms 544 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: of Russia and Iran, this is this is an interesting 545 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: place to go because we start to ask the question. 546 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: All right, So you've got and you've got the former 547 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: administration under with Obama becoming increasingly well belligerent. Maybe not 548 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 1: fair because it's in response to their actions, but you 549 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: have the former administration certainly taking a more hard line 550 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: stance visa the Russia than they had before the end 551 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: of Obama's term, and the Russian actions the bombing of 552 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: Aleppo and bombing campaign in Syria that was not just 553 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: haphazard in its targeting of civilians, but in many cases 554 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: that seem targeting civilians was in fact the purpose of 555 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: the bombing. UM. So that's that's a major problem. Uh. 556 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: Never mind the additions of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine and 557 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: constant saber rattling in the in the neighborhood of the Baltics, 558 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: which are NATO allies that we are obligated to protect. 559 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: But now, okay, those are all problems. What do we 560 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: do about it? Do we just hope to keep Russia 561 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: at arms length and not engaged. Do we think that 562 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: we can somehow bring about tremendous uh turnaround in Russian policy? 563 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: I just don't see that, um. And I think that 564 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: you then have to start to ask questions, do we 565 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: carve out areas where there are some places for cooperation? 566 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: And is that something that Trump administration is going to do. 567 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: A problem that comes up, and you see this all 568 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: ties together, is that the political room that the Trump 569 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: administration has to maneuver when it comes to dealing with 570 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: rush Shaw is getting narrower by the minute. With the 571 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: dust up over National Security Advisor Flynn and his phone 572 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: called the Russia, And this starts to feed into the 573 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: well Trump is far too positively disposed towards Russia, far 574 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: too favorable towards Russia, and even up to the point 575 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: which many journalists are insinuating, if not saying openly, that 576 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: Trump would sell out his country for Russia. And that's 577 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: a leap that I I do not find in any 578 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 1: way supported by the facts that Trump is more friendly 579 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: towards Putina. But keep in mind, go back and look 580 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: at what Bush said early on, Go back and look 581 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: at what Obama said with his you know off from 582 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: our electron will have more freedom, I'll have more freedom 583 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: with He was talking to Medvedev at the time. But 584 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: I got caught on that on the on the open mic, 585 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: and then Bush saying, I forget what the exact words were, 586 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: but I looked into Putin's eyes and his soul and 587 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: he was a good man or something. Well, well, I 588 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: don't know about that. W I don't know about that 589 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: in retrospect point of her being, what are you supposed 590 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: to do? I mean, Russia is not North Korea, Russia 591 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: is not even Iran. The international community is not going 592 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: to band together with US and try to uh stifle 593 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: and contain all Russian economic activity and military activity not 594 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Russia is still a military um, a military power, 595 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: not a global power per se, but certainly more than 596 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: a regional power. You could probably say it's a hemispheric power, 597 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: although it crosses a couple of hemispheres. So it's it's 598 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: very difficult to see the way forward with the Trump 599 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: administration on Russia not and not also see that there's 600 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: going to be a lot of second guessing of everything 601 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: that he does, because the stories that are out there 602 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: now are to suggest that Russia helped him get elected, 603 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: that he's a pawn in the Kremlins, in the hand 604 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: of the Kremlin, and I I don't see that, but 605 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: I do see the I'm not saying it's a tone, 606 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: And I don't know if it a tone deafness, or 607 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,959 Speaker 1: just a lack of caring, or maybe it gets swept 608 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: into the we make no apologies and we just have 609 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: a We're just ready to fight and fight back and 610 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: CounterPunch every time the press comes after us some issues. 611 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: Maybe the better path is to explain their position a 612 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: bit instead of just meeting the hostility the press with 613 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: their own hostility on a lot of stuff. That works, obviously, 614 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: and it has worked well for the administration up to 615 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: this point. But I just wonder how this will shake 616 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: out for not just Russia policy. But now that you've 617 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: got Flynn apologizing to Pence, you're gonna see news stories 618 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: for at least the next forty eight hours and probably 619 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: all week about how Pence must go, and they're gonna 620 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: bring out expert after expert, I mean starrty not pardon me, 621 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: not Pence, that Flynn must go, and they're gonna trot 622 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: out all these people, the more senior and the bigger 623 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: their title, the better, at least from previous administrations telling 624 00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: us all that Flynn has um messed up the workings 625 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: of the Nationality Council. So all of it, you can 626 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: write it yourself, right, you don't have to read it, 627 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: because you know what they're gonna say. They're going to 628 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: come out with a major campaign here to get one 629 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: administration official to step down. And let's be honest about this, 630 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: this would be a pretty major victory for the media 631 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: that's been going after the Trump administration from day one. 632 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: This is this is all a media campaign. They broke 633 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: the story about the Flin phone call on Russia. They're 634 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: the ones that have been hammering the Russia, not just 635 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: helping Trump get elected, which of course has been was 636 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: the main story the press is running for over a month, 637 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: but also that Russian fake news sites were affecting us 638 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: the US electorates perception and may have tilted the election 639 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: in Trump's favor. So this, this is all part of 640 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: a very consistent and detailed plan and framework for how 641 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 1: they're trying to undermine the administration. If they can convince 642 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: enough people that Trump will do Russia's bidding, it's it's 643 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: very it's very hard to then turn around say well, 644 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: he's gonna make American grade again. As long as the 645 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: Kremlin's okay with that, that's what they're hoping to do. 646 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: I don't see it as the dire crisis that certainly 647 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: all the mainstream media folks do um, but I do 648 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: think that they have clearly made there there's been some 649 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: error here. There have been some mistakes made, because you 650 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: have the National Security Advisor apologizing, at least according to 651 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: one news source, for misleading the vice president, making him 652 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: look uh, perhaps a bit foolish on this one. And 653 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: that's that I do think is unforgivable. If if the 654 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: Trump team has always had as an admirable quality, I 655 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: think loyalty to its loyalty to its own I I 656 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: would also imagine that disloyalty is the one is the 657 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: one unforgivable sin. And you know this is also not 658 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: leading the stories. And I'll get into this more with 659 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: you in just a few minutes about I can't verify 660 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: it for true. I'm I'm I'm paying my sources. I'm 661 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: asking people inside the intelligence community. I'm trying to get 662 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: outside of the media echo chamber with this and speak 663 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: to my friends who are patriots on both on both 664 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: sides of the aisle, who work inside the i C 665 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: and who work in law enforcement. I want to ask 666 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: them if some of this is true, and I'm trying 667 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: to get independent verification. But there's a lot of talk, 668 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: a lot of hype right now about the insider threat 669 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 1: and how the Trump administration at this point in time 670 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: is maybe going to consider monitoring of personal social media 671 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,439 Speaker 1: accounts for those who work in the national security field 672 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: and in the White House, monitoring the communication. I mean, 673 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 1: this is the stuff you're reading, and it's of course 674 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: intended to feel orwellian authoritarian, even creeping totalitarian. It it's 675 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: supposed to put you on edge. Uh, I don't know 676 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: if it's true. And it's getting to a point now 677 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: where there's so much negativity. There's so many damaging stories 678 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: being run about the trim that I you spend all 679 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: your time trying to track down whether they're true or not. 680 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: And you find out that one or two aren't true, 681 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: it's whack a mole. There's ten more, and you're just 682 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: constantly trying to verify and verify. And that's why people 683 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: don't trust the press anymore, because they're sick of it. 684 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: All Right, Our two on Buck Sex with America Now 685 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: will be upon us in just a few minutes. Stay 686 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: with me. The things that matter most in your day 687 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: to day life are too important to trust to just anyone. 688 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: That's that's why, that's why he's here, Buck Sexton with 689 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: America Now, Sharp mind, strong voice, Bug Sexton, Welcome back 690 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: to Buck Sexton with America Now. Phones are open eight 691 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: four four nine zero zero to eight to five eight 692 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: four four twenty five. Buck joined now by my friend 693 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: John Schindler. He is like me. A former I see guy. 694 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 1: He is an x N s A and currently the 695 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: National security writer for the New York Observator. Reagon's latest 696 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 1: at observer dot com. His piece, the Spy Revolt against Trump, begins, 697 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: Oh my, John, good to have you. Great to be here, bock. 698 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, welcome to the nationally syndicated UH box sections show. 699 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: Really appreciate you coming to hang out with U. John. 700 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: Let's start it off with the the Flint situation. I mean, 701 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: right now, the Flynn story is CNN is running with 702 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: it as as though they have a countdown clock to 703 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: one he actually gets canned. Uh how serious is this? 704 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think that do you think that 705 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: he might be gone as a result of this dust up? Well, 706 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,479 Speaker 1: he certainly should be, if I can put my cards 707 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 1: on the table there. He seems to have flat outlied 708 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: the Vice President, who then turned around and lied to 709 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,760 Speaker 1: the American public about it. You know, a rather important issue, 710 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,720 Speaker 1: which is his call to the Russian embassy after the election. 711 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: Although it's New York Times is discovered from leagues that 712 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: actually his relationship with the Russian ambassador goes back to 713 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: the for the election. Um, and uh, you know, Vice 714 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: President Pence wanted to know if anything untoward pically Obama's 715 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: sanctions on Russia and looking to have been discussed, and 716 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: General Flynn apparently said they had not been. And now 717 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: he's changed the story if you look, he's now back 718 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: into the land of sort of non denial denials, as 719 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: people do inside the Beltway when they don't want to 720 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: fess up. But he is supposed to have apologized to 721 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: the Vice President, which is a sign that obviously something 722 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: bad happened. What would lead the National Security Advisor to 723 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: tell the Well, first of all, how do you think 724 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: we found out about this? It seems pretty likely to me. 725 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: I can't say obvious. This has got to be a 726 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: leak from either the former White House or the former 727 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: and current intelligence community somewhere, but yes, or perhaps both. Look, 728 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: we monitored the phone calls the Russian embassy in Washington, 729 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: just like the monitor our embassy in Moscow. In fact, 730 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: this is common and pretty much every world capital on 731 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: the planet. When there's a hostile in telegent services nesting 732 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 1: in an embassy, you want to know what's being set 733 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: on phones, and sometimes do physical surveillance as well. So 734 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: these calls were intercepted. And of course what makes this 735 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: truly bizarre is that Mike Flynnic career military intelligence officer, 736 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 1: retired three star Army general, former director of the Defense 737 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: intelligen Stations, he certainly should have known. It's incomprehensible. He 738 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: didn't know that those calls were gonna be intercepted. So 739 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: that's that's part of what makes it such a very 740 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: strange story. Ambassador get kissed, the AKA, his his his 741 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: interlocutors certainly knew that these calls are being intercepted. The 742 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: Russians are well aware of that, so this adds a 743 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: reuther strange dimension to all this. And their transcripts out 744 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 1: there classify, of course not in the public domain about 745 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: what General Flynn actually said, which presumably is why he's backtracked. No, no, 746 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: but see the Logan Act. And I know that journalists 747 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: have been bringing this one up to all the Logan Act. 748 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: Logan Act has never once been used to successfully prosecute 749 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: any human being in this country since it was an act, 750 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: and I think in se so the Logan Act is 751 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: not the sort of damocles hanging over the head of 752 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: anybody who decides to have have you know, a little 753 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: side conversation about foreign policy, whether they are senior administration 754 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: official or just some some congressman who's out there on 755 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: a on a drunket. The point here being, why why 756 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: lie about this unless there's something to lie about. That's 757 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: what I don't understand. And this is the first time 758 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm seeing something in the Trump team that I'm like, guys, 759 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: you really do have to clean this up. I don't 760 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: know how anybody makes this go away for you. Well. Also, 761 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: there's the fact that, look, Russia has hung over the 762 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: Trump campaign and now new administration for a year now 763 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: is questions about Trump's Kremlin tie, some of them very 764 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 1: legitimate questions, have dominated headlines from that from time to time, 765 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: and certainly since since this is anauguration. Who thought of 766 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: was an idea to call the Russian ambassador up on 767 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 1: an open phone? Anyway? I mean, this was You're just 768 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: courting trouble with this kind of thing. Can we just 769 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: put something on the table? John? You I mean you 770 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,720 Speaker 1: think that Flynn is is not is not a savvy 771 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: intelligence officers? Is that fair to say? I mean, I 772 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: read your columns on this, and you respect his service 773 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: to his country. I do too, But you're from and 774 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: you know more about them than I do. I didn't 775 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 1: really interact with him at all when I was c 776 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: I A, and I didn't know much about him when 777 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 1: I was inside. Uh, you don't have a high opinion 778 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: of him even before this, or you didn't have a 779 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: high opinion of him even before this rush. The thing why, 780 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: um no I His reputation is greatly inflated. And he 781 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: did find up through the one star level on the 782 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: army and basically tactical intelligence and support to our war 783 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: on terrorism, and then that's great. The problem is tactical 784 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: intelligence doesn't do you much when you're playing in the 785 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,399 Speaker 1: big strategic game inside the Beltway. And he fell flat 786 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: in his face at d I A. He was fired 787 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: by general by President Obama with cause. He lies about 788 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: this as he was fired because he demanded a tougher 789 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 1: line in ISIS. That's simply not true. Now I happen 790 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: to think on the matter of ISIS. Flynn was right 791 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,879 Speaker 1: about a lot of this and President Obama was wrong, 792 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: that's clear. But Flynn Flynn was fired for cause from 793 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 1: d I A. And that should have been a warning sign. 794 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: This is someone who isn't good at running big, complex organizations. 795 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 1: So why give him the even more politically charged National 796 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: Security Council to run? Um, So, I think it's just 797 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: asked for trouble. I mean, President Trump trust slin. I 798 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 1: think that's why he's having a hard time getting rid 799 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 1: of him, which now he frankly should. You shouldn't be 800 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: able to live the vice president and then the vice 801 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: president list American public and get away with it. That 802 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: that should be in a stane administration. That is a 803 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: fireable offense. So let's see what they do. Yeah, but 804 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: as of course that will just be chumming. The water 805 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: is full of media piranhas. But it may happen. It 806 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,399 Speaker 1: may happen. Nonetheless, Um, I want to ask you about 807 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: the insider threat that's also being reported right now, or 808 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: I should say, the insider threat programs. What do you 809 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: think I have had a chance. I just read about 810 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: this today, having had a chance to ask any of 811 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: my friends who are inside. But there's real angst if 812 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: you believe the Times and Post primarily reporting on this, 813 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: that the Trump team is gonna want to access people's 814 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: personal social media accounts, is looking over emails, very paranoid 815 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 1: about leaks to the press. But that means that they 816 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,240 Speaker 1: might get even more orwelling and than the current security 817 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,320 Speaker 1: procedures in the i C and at the NFC would be, 818 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: which are pretty bad to begin with, but they're going 819 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 1: to go to a new level. Do you think that's 820 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,439 Speaker 1: Does that wash with you? Do you think that's true? 821 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: I think it is true. I've heard the same from 822 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 1: people in a position to know. I believe it certainly 823 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 1: is largely true. And it's very disturbing in the sense 824 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: that you know, inside the threats are normally we're talking 825 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: about espionage and foreign intelligence. They're concerned about leaks, and look, 826 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: leaks are a problem. The Oboma administration crackdown on links 827 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: extraordinarily more than any administration at least since Richard Nixon, 828 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: uh and some ways too much so that people went 829 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: to jail for for leaks. And look, that's all we good. 830 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: We're talking about leaking things that may not even be classified. 831 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 1: But it looked bad for the administration. And if they 832 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: want to create a climate of fear that will paralyze 833 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 1: operations on National Security Council and more broadling in the 834 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 1: White House, this is the way to do it. The 835 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: career folks on the NFC already hate the Trump people, 836 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: and this is going to put them into into an 837 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: incredible spin up of of resentment and anger, which is 838 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: just gonna make the work climate there worse and less functional. 839 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: And it's really dysfunc him anyway, because Flynn and his 840 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 1: cronies don't know how to run this organization. Look, every 841 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 1: new administration has teething pains. It takes weeks and months 842 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: to get going. But they're just going very slowly already. 843 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: Now when when he when he nominated and of course 844 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 1: has since been confirmed, Uh, Matt has to be Secretary 845 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,879 Speaker 1: of Defense. You were very complimentary about that. You said, 846 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 1: Maddis is a warrior, monk, learned guy, respected by the 847 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: rank and file all the way after the top, and 848 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: that was a a an excellent pick by your estimation 849 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: and by mine as well. Is that assuming that Flynn 850 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,399 Speaker 1: does resign or is astor resign, which may not happen. 851 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,919 Speaker 1: And I would say, from what I'm seeing, it looks 852 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 1: like fifty fifty to me. Do you want to put 853 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: a do you want to put odds on it? Looks 854 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: it was really fifty fifty. Over the weekend, we know 855 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 1: there was a big, big kerfuffle in the White House 856 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: about does he stay or does he go? Uh? This 857 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: morning it looked like he was staying. Mr Spice, the 858 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 1: President's spokesman this afternoon late this afternoon, indicated that the 859 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: question is still open at the White House. So is 860 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: this Are they genuinely confused? Are they trying to make 861 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 1: everyone think they're confused? I don't know, but I think 862 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: we're back to but if we if we put if 863 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: we put something, let's say he stepped down. Do you 864 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 1: think that bringing in somebody of the stature and respect 865 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,839 Speaker 1: of a madis at the Pentagon to be the natural 866 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: security advisor to take over the day to day at 867 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 1: the at the NSC, does that fix a lot of 868 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: these problems? Um? He certainly could, particularly if his successor 869 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 1: was able to bring in his or her people. UM. 870 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: I don't know that you could find a much worse 871 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 1: uh National secret Advisor than might Flynn by temperament. Uh. 872 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean I think you could pick better people randomly 873 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 1: up the streets of DC. His protest Susan, you are 874 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: not going to the Flynn Christmas party this year? No, 875 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: I'm I've been off his Christmas card list for a 876 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 1: while and that's okay. His predecessor, Susan Rice was a disaster. 877 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 1: But Flynn is frankly even worse one. Uh and so yes, 878 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: this could get better if Flynn is cashiered and his 879 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: successor brings in people who are more functional, who are 880 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: not just cronies. But yes, this could get better very quickly, 881 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: because pticually, as he said, since Mattis is over at 882 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: the panicon On is an incredibly solid guy. Even Tillers 883 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: in the State Department. He wouldn't have been my choice, 884 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 1: but he's a smart guy. He he wants to do 885 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: the right things to the country. Uh. And you know 886 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 1: this could get better. Um, it would be hard to 887 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 1: see how it could get worse. Wow, all right. John Schindler, 888 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: national security commist for the New York Observer, read his 889 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: latest The spy Revolt against Trump begins at observer dot com. My, 890 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,800 Speaker 1: I see brother. Good to have you on, John, A 891 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: pleasure is always blocked. Have a good one you too, alright, 892 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 1: buckets back with you now? Eight four four nine zero 893 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: zero to eight to five on the lines you want 894 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: to call in? Oh boy, another show. I'm gonna switch 895 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,240 Speaker 1: to some positive stuff to the administration of seconds. Everyone's 896 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: being so mean to the administration today. Come on, gosh, guys, 897 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 1: they're trying. I know, they should do better than that. 898 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 1: They're the most powerful government figures in the world. You know, 899 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,839 Speaker 1: it's it's a learning curve. Yeah, they're doing what they can. 900 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: You know, it's only been a few weeks. Let them know, 901 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 1: I know, let him settle in. It's gonna be it's 902 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 1: gonna be a bumpy ride here, I think for a 903 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,320 Speaker 1: little bit while even a stration gets its footing. And 904 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: keep in mind the press doesn't want them to. They 905 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 1: act like, oh, we just wish they are more effective. 906 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: We just wish they had a better sense of policy 907 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: planting on intrug governmental communications that is a lie. They 908 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,720 Speaker 1: the more this looks like a bunch of buffoons running 909 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 1: into each other in the hallway during a fire drill, 910 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 1: the more that's how they can portray the administration, the 911 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 1: happier they will be a perfect example of this. New 912 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 1: York Times right now talking about how the this is 913 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: the pieces from Trump's Mara Lago to Facebook, a national 914 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: security crisis in the open, and this just went up. 915 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,439 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I don't know recently that I can say. 916 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 1: And when the nuclear sorry, when the missile test from 917 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 1: North Korea happened. It seems here that the Trump team 918 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: was at Mara Lago, which I hear is lovely this 919 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: time of year, and they assembled more or less a 920 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: war a war room for the response, not an actual 921 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,320 Speaker 1: and that we're I don't think they're designating, you know, 922 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 1: missile strikes or anything, but a war room for their 923 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 1: response to this whole situation um. And it was out 924 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 1: in the open and they were using their they were 925 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 1: using their their cell phones as flashlights. So yeah, uh, 926 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: and people country club members were seeing this all happening 927 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: out in the open um. You know, you don't necessarily 928 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: want to do this kind of thing like that on 929 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 1: the fly. Might be better to get to a more 930 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 1: private location. Not necessarily they're saying, oh, they should have 931 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 1: gone to a a secure compartmental compartmentalized facility. That they 932 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: should have moved to a secure compartment and information facility 933 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: skiff in the I S parlance. Okay, I mean maybe 934 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: not a skiff, but maybe I'll sit onto it where 935 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 1: people are clearing their filman and they can kind of 936 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 1: just perk up an ear and catch what the response 937 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: is going to be from the commander in chief to 938 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 1: a nuclear test although if their class, if their discussions 939 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 1: were all unclassified, their discussions were all unclassified. I you 940 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 1: can look at this couple of ways, but of course 941 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 1: this is all supposed to tie into the theory that 942 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,879 Speaker 1: this is amateur hour. They don't know what they're doing. 943 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 1: And keep in mind previous White House you had people 944 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 1: like Valerie Jarrett as the senior most advisors to the 945 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,879 Speaker 1: president United States. You had, you know, David axel Rod, 946 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: Valerie Jarrett. Oh yeah, these are people that I want 947 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 1: to trust the nuclear codes to. I mean, come on, 948 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 1: but you didn't see a lot of stories about how 949 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 1: they didn't know what was going on then. Uh. And 950 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,720 Speaker 1: you know Obama was drawing on his vast national security 951 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,839 Speaker 1: experience when he became commander in chief. And by vast, 952 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 1: I mean non existent. So you can tell there's a 953 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: very there's a huge difference in tone and an approach 954 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: from the way all of this is reported about. I 955 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 1: did want to I did want to get to the 956 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: press conference today because I thought this was another interesting 957 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 1: example of how all this is all presented to us 958 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 1: and also the expectations created around it. Here's what happened. 959 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:12,399 Speaker 1: You have the Prime Minister of Canada justin Tudeau, hallo lady. 960 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,879 Speaker 1: He reminds me of of the of the guy at 961 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 1: like a you know, beach resort that teaches you know, 962 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: the sailing or scooba or something, and he's like a 963 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 1: little too little, too cozy talking to your girlfriend or 964 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 1: your wife. You're like, wait a second, I don't know 965 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 1: this guy with the French accent. Why is he talking 966 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 1: to my wife? I just here for a surfing lesson 967 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 1: and step away, sir um. He did a very good job. 968 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,840 Speaker 1: He's like bongeour ladies, I'm the Prime Minister of Canada. 969 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 1: He actually speaks English without an accent, which so I'm 970 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 1: being unfair, but he did switch into French a few times. 971 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 1: But in my in my world, Trudeaux is like he's 972 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 1: like very He's like the Montreal version of those very 973 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 1: French hallo ladies. Uh. So he's he's out there giving 974 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 1: a press conference with Trump and everyone asking, oh, there 975 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,879 Speaker 1: are there gonna be fire works? Oh is there gonna 976 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 1: be something huge? Well, why would there be fireworks there? 977 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 1: This is a relationship. It's about as solid as two 978 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 1: countries could possibly have. Canada and America there our second 979 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 1: biggest trading partner. We are by far their biggest trading partner. 980 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 1: And we've they've has sent troops to serve honorably, honorably 981 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,360 Speaker 1: beside ours, fighting right alongside ours, and numerous war stretching 982 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:33,879 Speaker 1: back World War One, World War two, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan. 983 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 1: So you know, there there's no reason to believe that 984 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: this would go off the rails. Okay, I know Trudeau 985 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: is very uh hello ladies, do you drive it? Prius? 986 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 1: Are you into a carbon offsets? Are you? How do 987 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 1: you say? And he's so not this friend, he's so 988 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: not this frenchie. But I'm I'm making him super frenchy um. 989 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 1: But you know, he's very left wing guy, very pro profile. 990 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 1: He could described himlf as very a feminist. As a feminist, 991 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,359 Speaker 1: I think half of his senior administration posts or something 992 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,839 Speaker 1: along those lines or women and so what a Trump 993 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 1: Your Trump meets with them, and I think makes it 994 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: very wise decision or savvy decision. From a PR perspective, 995 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,320 Speaker 1: I think that this whatever someone says they're gathering a council, 996 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:18,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's sort of like when the c 997 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,400 Speaker 1: I when we had a problem, They're like, oh, we 998 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 1: need to hold the meeting. Yeah, that's gonna fix it 999 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,720 Speaker 1: when you gather together a council to tackle a complex problem, 1000 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 1: whether it's economic, political, otherwise. They have some council on 1001 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 1: women's entrepreneurship. This is the kind of thing where I 1002 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,400 Speaker 1: think Trump realizes, you know, I'll get a I'll get 1003 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,319 Speaker 1: a free ride on this one. We got Mr left 1004 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 1: wing feminist Prime minister over here, and he wants to 1005 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,800 Speaker 1: talk about women entrepreneurship. You know, it's a life blood 1006 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 1: of the economy as the female entrepreneurs. And you know, 1007 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 1: Trump's so like, yeah, I like I I like I 1008 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 1: like women entrepreneurs, you know whatever. So he said that 1009 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 1: they're forming this committee or this council. Who knows if 1010 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,840 Speaker 1: that's gonna do anything. But the press really they really wanted. 1011 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 1: What they really wanted was a moment of acrimony. They 1012 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 1: wanted a little bit of of a back and forth, 1013 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 1: some verbal pugilism between these two leaders. And they even 1014 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 1: asked at one point that they tried to get Trudeau 1015 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 1: to weigh in and do we have the Trudeau clip 1016 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 1: of him, yeah, which we asked. They asked Trudeau to 1017 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,399 Speaker 1: weigh in on on Trump's immigration executive order, as though, yeah, 1018 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,880 Speaker 1: that's these guys are just meeting for the first time. 1019 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,399 Speaker 1: They're trying to establish a working relationship between two very 1020 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: powerful individual I mean, I mean America a little more 1021 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: powerful than Cannon. We love you, Canada. I'm just saying, 1022 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, we've a little we've got we've got like 1023 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,360 Speaker 1: more nukes and stuff, bigger, bigger military. But you're a 1024 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 1: great country. We love you. You're like our brother up north. Uh. 1025 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 1: But they're trying to establish a good working relationship and 1026 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,320 Speaker 1: impresses all like, oh, do you want to criticize this 1027 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 1: very politicized issue of the immigration order. And here's what 1028 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 1: Trudeau said, I gotta in credit, play it and you'll hear. 1029 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,439 Speaker 1: Is not that frenchie is for me to come down, 1030 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 1: not at all lecture another country on how they choose 1031 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: to govern themselves. There you go. I had to say, 1032 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 1: this guy was was super smooth in the press commerce 1033 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,800 Speaker 1: today and Trump stayed on message. Read his comments. So 1034 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,920 Speaker 1: while I ever saw and there's a Flynn story, oh 1035 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 1: that you can you see them and they're gonna they're 1036 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 1: gonna be popping the champagne over MSNBC. You know we 1037 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: got one. You know, if Flynn gets fired, they're gonna 1038 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 1: be so excited. Oh man, they're they's They're just gonna 1039 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 1: be gloating over their morning lattes. They're gonna be really 1040 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 1: excited over that one or their quartado. Also known as 1041 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 1: a flat white as I understand it, and there's even 1042 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,719 Speaker 1: another name for it on the West Coast that I 1043 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 1: forget what they call it, but it's like a it's 1044 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,359 Speaker 1: like a latte with less milk. I learned these things 1045 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 1: gonna live in New York. Uh. But while that's all happening, 1046 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 1: you got Trump. Great meeting with Abe, Prime Minister of Japan, 1047 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,400 Speaker 1: great meeting with Trudeau. Look, I know, true know is 1048 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 1: a left left wing guy and has some kind of 1049 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 1: nutty ideas and there's a video of him doing a 1050 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 1: whole falling down the stairs thing on YouTube. But he 1051 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 1: was he was good. In the press conference today. It 1052 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,399 Speaker 1: was kind of like props, high five and mad love 1053 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,799 Speaker 1: between America and Canada, as it should be. And these 1054 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,359 Speaker 1: two guys look like they're gonna get you know, they're 1055 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,359 Speaker 1: both celebrities in their own way, and I think they're 1056 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 1: gonna get together and uh, they'll do some They're gonna 1057 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,279 Speaker 1: make Canada and America great again. I'm optimistic for that 1058 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,440 Speaker 1: relationship show. And so while we're talking about some of 1059 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,399 Speaker 1: the missteps and and problems the Trump administrations had, let's 1060 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 1: also look at some of the victories and the fact 1061 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 1: that there's some major policy stuff they've got underwear that 1062 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,760 Speaker 1: could really do good things for this country. Buck Sexton 1063 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 1: with America Now, Buck is back. Everybody Bucks back. It's 1064 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 1: more of America. Now throw in your two cents one 1065 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 1: eight four four, nine hundred. Buck. That's one eight four four, 1066 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,800 Speaker 1: nine hundred to eight to five. Buck Sexton with America 1067 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,840 Speaker 1: now back with you all. Thank you so much for 1068 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 1: joining and if you're listening to the break, really appreciate 1069 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 1: you spending your time with me today. I just want 1070 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,879 Speaker 1: to give you some oh that's right, breaking news from 1071 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 1: the Freedom Hut here and that's right, team Buck. We 1072 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,280 Speaker 1: give you the breaking news as it comes in. Of course, 1073 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 1: Steve Manuchin is now your Treasury secretary, or has gone 1074 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 1: through the Senate. They've they've voted to push through Manuch 1075 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,120 Speaker 1: and I'm assuming party line voter. I haven't even been 1076 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,320 Speaker 1: able to dig into the details. I'm assuming it was 1077 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 1: party line. But yeah, Minuchin is fun to say Manuchin, 1078 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,439 Speaker 1: he's he's going to be the Treasury secretary, former Golden 1079 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 1: Sacks partner, a lot of financial background. You look at 1080 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 1: Hank Paulson, what was on the Bush administration, former Golden Sacks. 1081 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 1: This is not surprising. I mean, this is at some 1082 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,440 Speaker 1: point you understand if you're gonna have people that are 1083 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 1: involved in senior government posts that deal with finance, the economy, 1084 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 1: the treasury, our monetary all that stuff. Uh, you probably 1085 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 1: want to have somebody who has private sector experience dealing 1086 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,800 Speaker 1: with that. And that's going to mean that there's some institutions, 1087 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 1: just like you're gonna have people from Harvard and Yale 1088 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 1: Law who are on the Supreme Court and federal judge positions, 1089 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 1: positions across the country. Just the way that it is. 1090 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 1: They can talk about hashtag drain the swamp all day, 1091 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:24,440 Speaker 1: But what kind of who is a swamp draining Treasury 1092 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 1: secretary that is qualified and acceptable to the left that 1093 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 1: any Trump administration would ever want to have. That's a 1094 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 1: You can ponder that one for a long time because 1095 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 1: the answer is there isn't one. Um. But that's where 1096 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 1: we are on that. Let's take some so minuchtion is through. 1097 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 1: There's a few more that need to get through. Uh. 1098 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 1: The Democrats have been slow rolling the process of getting 1099 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 1: Trump administration officials through. Um. They say, it's, of course, 1100 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,440 Speaker 1: because I need more. They're extreme vetting Trump's nominees is 1101 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 1: what's going on here. But we will see how if 1102 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 1: there's any last minute hiccups or diffic cultis that they face. 1103 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 1: All right, calls coming in eight four four nine zero 1104 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 1: zero to eight to five less in Arizona, kf Y. 1105 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: I thank you very much for joining in. Yes, I'm 1106 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:19,240 Speaker 1: nice to talk to you. Question about the security aspect 1107 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 1: of the leak on uh Flynn's telephone call. Those are 1108 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 1: all recorded, and isn't the leaking of any information that's recorded. 1109 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 1: Anybody in the government that would have that information, aren't 1110 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 1: they under some sort of obligation not to leak any 1111 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 1: of that information? Oh? Yeah, if this is as has 1112 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 1: been reported and would make sense, If this is a 1113 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 1: leak of classified signals intelligence, uh, that would be a 1114 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,760 Speaker 1: federal crime. So if somebody with access to that information 1115 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 1: got it via classified means, seems likely that's the case 1116 00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 1: based on the sourcing that the journalistic accounts that deal 1117 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,280 Speaker 1: with this have put out there. Then yeah, there there's 1118 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 1: of course a lawbreaking. Whether it's a White House official 1119 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:10,240 Speaker 1: or it is somebody from inside the intelligence community itself, 1120 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 1: it's definitely illegal. But but there are there are leaks, 1121 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 1: and there are leaks. I mean there are leaks that 1122 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 1: the people doing it feel like they are politically protected 1123 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 1: because even if they were found out, it would be 1124 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,920 Speaker 1: seen as a reprisal against them for speaking truth. And 1125 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 1: part of the problem here is that even if you 1126 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 1: identified the leaker in the Flynn in the Flynn case, 1127 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,400 Speaker 1: are you then you're then going to prosecute this individual 1128 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 1: for telling Let's assume assume that everything out there right 1129 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 1: now is true and assume that Flynn hasn't been straightforward 1130 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,880 Speaker 1: with not just Vice President Pence but the American public. 1131 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,919 Speaker 1: You're gonna prosecute it for telling the truth. That that's 1132 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 1: a that's yeah, legally speaking, you can't do that. But 1133 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 1: are you gonna get a jury to convict or you're 1134 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,960 Speaker 1: gonna go down that pathway? That's Prosecuting leaks is a 1135 01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:01,600 Speaker 1: very political, very politicized business. So you're answer your questions, yes, absolutely, 1136 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 1: there's a high possibility, high probability that the leak is 1137 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 1: of classified information. That's a violation of criminal statute of 1138 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 1: federal law. But there's very little chance I would say 1139 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 1: to you that any but unless the Trump administration wants 1140 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,560 Speaker 1: to go down that path, but very little chance that 1141 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,960 Speaker 1: they would one find this individual and to prosecute him 1142 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 1: or her even if they did. Yeah, but if you 1143 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,600 Speaker 1: did find them, could you remove them by that from 1144 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 1: getting any more security? Oh, you could definitely suspend their clearance, 1145 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 1: and then that's you a lot of these instances, that's 1146 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 1: the option that they choose to go with. Remember, if 1147 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,680 Speaker 1: you work in the I S, if you're an intelligence 1148 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:44,320 Speaker 1: community uh official or analyst or whatever. If you're like me, 1149 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 1: a c I A if ce I analysts, they pull 1150 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,200 Speaker 1: your clearance, you're done and you can't go even work 1151 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 1: in the private sector with your clearance. I mean you're 1152 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,680 Speaker 1: you're out of the game. So pulling someone's clearance is 1153 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 1: is essentially like telling you know, it's like taking if 1154 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 1: you if you're dry in a cab, someone takes the 1155 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,400 Speaker 1: wheels off your car, I mean you're done, right, I 1156 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,360 Speaker 1: mean they don't have to necessarily fire, you can't even 1157 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 1: you can't function anymore. So, Uh, that's that's a possibility 1158 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 1: here too. Less I think you're going to see more 1159 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 1: of these links. It's been very effective. This has created 1160 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 1: a real problem. It'll go away, but it's created a 1161 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 1: real problem the Trump administration, and uh, they're gonna have 1162 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,920 Speaker 1: to handle us. But thank you for calling in from Arizona. 1163 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 1: Less Let's take Dan in North Carolina. Dan, you're speaking 1164 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:31,040 Speaker 1: to Buck. Yes, Buck, Hey, I love your show. I 1165 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:36,680 Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I'm I'm really interested in your straightforward attack. 1166 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 1: And it's just that's great because the biggest thing we 1167 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:44,280 Speaker 1: gotta understand right now is it's a big, big problem 1168 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,320 Speaker 1: out there. Thank you, sir. Yes, it isn't it is indeed, 1169 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 1: and the media, the media is acting as a as 1170 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,959 Speaker 1: a fifth column against the interest of the republic, whether 1171 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 1: they know it or not, on a lot of these issues. 1172 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 1: So they are not good and it's not good. They're 1173 01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 1: not really creating, they're not doing anything to help the 1174 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 1: American person. They're just they're something that left is created 1175 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,680 Speaker 1: that I God, I've struggled my whole life trying to 1176 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 1: figure out where the hell it all comes from. But 1177 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,200 Speaker 1: the truth of matter is, uh, we got to stay 1178 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,919 Speaker 1: the course, and we've gotta stay with Trump and he's 1179 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,720 Speaker 1: on the right path. There's no doubt in my mind. Yeah, 1180 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 1: I think there's going to be some process hurdles and 1181 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:30,040 Speaker 1: and even process mistakes. This is even the fact that 1182 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 1: I have to say this. Then, of course the administration 1183 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 1: is going to make mistakes. They already have and they're 1184 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,400 Speaker 1: and they're going to make more. But when you look 1185 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:41,040 Speaker 1: at what matters, you look at major policy decisions, and 1186 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,760 Speaker 1: also I have to say Trump has seemed so far 1187 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:50,120 Speaker 1: absolutely dead set on keeping his campaign promises, keeping his 1188 01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 1: promises to those who supported him from the beginning and 1189 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,600 Speaker 1: even those who jumped on the Trump train towards the end. 1190 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:57,560 Speaker 1: He said that he was going to do certain things 1191 01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,040 Speaker 1: in the campaign. We're only a few weeks in it. 1192 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 1: He is at least pursuing them, and still he certainly 1193 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 1: hasn't changed his tune. Um, although I am a little 1194 01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 1: annoyed about the delay and the tax looks like tax 1195 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,680 Speaker 1: reform is not gonna come until either end of summer 1196 01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,440 Speaker 1: or next year. I I don't like I I think you. 1197 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 1: I think tax reform that's gotta be right right alongside Obama, 1198 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,479 Speaker 1: because that's gonna be top of the agenda. They gotta 1199 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,800 Speaker 1: go with that right away. Why that would be delayed 1200 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,960 Speaker 1: I've heard the rationales for it. I'm not sure I 1201 01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,720 Speaker 1: buy them. I think they're I think they're getting a 1202 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 1: little a little shy about pulling the trigger on that. 1203 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:33,880 Speaker 1: And they and they shouldn't. They should really move forward 1204 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,960 Speaker 1: on tax reform. I think it's essential. Well, and the 1205 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 1: problem is it's it actually is a global war. We're 1206 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 1: not We're not dealing just with the United States anymore. 1207 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 1: And that's been the problem for the last fifty freaking years, 1208 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 1: is they keep trying to pull us into a global economy, 1209 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 1: global world. And quite truthfully, hey, I'm all for globalization. 1210 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 1: Everybody is. Hey, I'm all for immigrants, I'm all for 1211 01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,720 Speaker 1: the LGBT community. I'm all for a woman's right to 1212 01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 1: do whatever she wants, although I wish she would figure 1213 01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,160 Speaker 1: out a better way to do birth control. But the 1214 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,880 Speaker 1: bottom line is we've got it. Well, there's this has 1215 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 1: been a long time coming. And as a as a 1216 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,280 Speaker 1: sixty five year old war vet, I can tell you 1217 01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 1: honestly that this what what you're doing, what Trump is doing, 1218 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:32,840 Speaker 1: We're on the right course, I think so. Dan. Thank 1219 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,880 Speaker 1: you for your service and thank you for your call, 1220 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:39,439 Speaker 1: Sir Shields. High appreciate appreciate hearing from you. Uh, maybe 1221 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 1: I'll talk a little just to like switch it up 1222 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:42,640 Speaker 1: a little bit here, team. Maybe we'll get into the 1223 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,480 Speaker 1: Grammys after the break, just for a second. I know 1224 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:45,760 Speaker 1: a lot of you can watch, you don't care, but 1225 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,720 Speaker 1: there's some there. There's there's some political takeaways here that 1226 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 1: matter well beyond the confines of the music industry such 1227 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,440 Speaker 1: as it were, So I might spend a little time 1228 01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 1: on that. We've also got the the little story on 1229 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,200 Speaker 1: Netflix cheating people to go and watch They are supposed 1230 01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,680 Speaker 1: to watch a show with their their spouse or significant 1231 01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:10,480 Speaker 1: other and and they go ahead. And that's just very widespread. 1232 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,040 Speaker 1: Some people think this is a very big problem. Um 1233 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 1: and uh, and a few other Maybe we'll get to 1234 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,640 Speaker 1: maybe we'll get to some of the stores that more stores, 1235 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,200 Speaker 1: by the way, dropping a vote. These are just some 1236 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:22,840 Speaker 1: news items I wanted to get out there to see 1237 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,960 Speaker 1: more stores dropping Avanka Trump's line. And they're all claiming, oh, 1238 01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,959 Speaker 1: it's just not selling that. Well yeah, because we're all idiots, sure, 1239 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,480 Speaker 1: And and they're still offering them on their websites. They're 1240 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,200 Speaker 1: just making them less visible in the stores. I think 1241 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,480 Speaker 1: in at least one or two cases. So we're being 1242 01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 1: told that, oh no, this isn't in response to the boycotts. 1243 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,600 Speaker 1: See now, industry knows, and a lot of different companies 1244 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,520 Speaker 1: have seen this, and they don't want to get caught up. 1245 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,520 Speaker 1: And I understand this. They're just trying to run a 1246 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,040 Speaker 1: business and they're just trying to sell a product and 1247 01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 1: pay their employees and make a profit and go home. 1248 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,120 Speaker 1: But they realized that the the issue run up against 1249 01:06:55,160 --> 01:07:00,440 Speaker 1: with boycotts is the counter boycott too. Sometimes times, if 1250 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 1: you stand firm, you'll be even more supported by customers. 1251 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,560 Speaker 1: They'll make a real point of going out and buying. 1252 01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:10,439 Speaker 1: I think that happened with the owner of LLL bean 1253 01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 1: I rocked the bean boots. Love them duck boots, quack 1254 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,680 Speaker 1: quack all day for me, man, I think the duck 1255 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:20,400 Speaker 1: boots are awesome. Um, but that was a uh, that 1256 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 1: was an instance of people supporting a product after she 1257 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,920 Speaker 1: came under a lot of criticism for supporting Trump, so 1258 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,200 Speaker 1: they said we're gonna go out and buy her boots. Um. 1259 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 1: I have to say, Uh, the Ivanka Trump line being 1260 01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,920 Speaker 1: dropped from stores, and of course the left is oh 1261 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,520 Speaker 1: so focused on this. They can focus on whatever little Minutia. 1262 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 1: They want to demean Kelley and Conway, Ivanka Trump, Donald Trump, 1263 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:47,360 Speaker 1: you you name it, Bannon. You know they act like 1264 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,680 Speaker 1: that guy's lucifer. I mean, just whatever they want to 1265 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,600 Speaker 1: focus on, any tiny issue that they want to blow 1266 01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:54,680 Speaker 1: up into a much bigger issue as a metaphor for 1267 01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,680 Speaker 1: the entire Trump administration. They can do that. But the 1268 01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,680 Speaker 1: moment you pushed back, oh, snow flick or you're just 1269 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,720 Speaker 1: a snowflake. Not a snowflake just asking people not to 1270 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,120 Speaker 1: be jerks. There's a difference. Explain more of what I 1271 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,240 Speaker 1: mean in a second. Eight four or four nine zero 1272 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 1: zero to eight to five. Bucks exton back with you. Well, now, 1273 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,200 Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining in the freedom hut. 1274 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,599 Speaker 1: I hope you're enjoying yourself. I'm having a great time 1275 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,960 Speaker 1: as always. Phones are open eight four or four nine 1276 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:24,000 Speaker 1: zero zero to eight to five. So Senator al Franken 1277 01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,840 Speaker 1: was on. I was that Bill Marshaw, I guess, and 1278 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:34,360 Speaker 1: he was expressing, oh, his concern about Trump's mental health. 1279 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,960 Speaker 1: Here we go play it a sentence to say he's 1280 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 1: mentally ill? Right, is an idiot? I mean this is 1281 01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,160 Speaker 1: actually pure as Morgan talking about it. Isn't you know, 1282 01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have personally voted for Donald Trump. Is not 1283 01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,240 Speaker 1: my politics and I'm not even Americans, so I couldn't vote. 1284 01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,800 Speaker 1: Remember wanted to, That's right, but you know, I didn't 1285 01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,840 Speaker 1: think anything could match the hysteria that I've seen in 1286 01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 1: Britain since we left Europe, and I voted to stay in. 1287 01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:59,960 Speaker 1: But this hysteria about the racist, sexist Neanderthals we've seen 1288 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,000 Speaker 1: is control of our country. I know. I come to 1289 01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,439 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, where if you don't say that Trump's the 1290 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,639 Speaker 1: new Hitler, you get tard feathered and dragged the Santa 1291 01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,479 Speaker 1: Monica pre and you get drowned. I'm beating through the 1292 01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:16,120 Speaker 1: least of the life, and I just think it's time 1293 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:22,000 Speaker 1: everybody took a massive, gigantic chill pill. But he mentally ill. 1294 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,240 Speaker 1: He's a president of the United States. He won a 1295 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:29,479 Speaker 1: free democratic election. You don't think kings can be mentally ill? Okay, well, 1296 01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:33,920 Speaker 1: kings are kings are first of all, Bill Maher, kings 1297 01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,920 Speaker 1: are a hereditary succession, so you don't have people that 1298 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,280 Speaker 1: get to hear like the king's platform. Usually it's not 1299 01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:45,080 Speaker 1: how it works. A monarchy is based in hereditary succession, 1300 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 1: so there's that little aspect of it. But also I 1301 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,400 Speaker 1: wanted to play what this is a sitting US Senator 1302 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,439 Speaker 1: Al frank and what he says about the president on 1303 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:56,439 Speaker 1: a television show with millions of viewers, at least two 1304 01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,080 Speaker 1: or three million viewers, I think, UM speaking about this, 1305 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,120 Speaker 1: and he says flat this is sitting US senator, who, 1306 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:06,400 Speaker 1: by the way, may decide to run for the presidency 1307 01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:10,360 Speaker 1: himself in twenties, so not an insignificant figure in Democrat politics, 1308 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,400 Speaker 1: saying that he thinks the president is mentally ill. Play it, 1309 01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:20,240 Speaker 1: and some will um say that he's not right mentally, 1310 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,400 Speaker 1: and then some are harsher. Okay, he says he's not 1311 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,719 Speaker 1: right mentally. I mean I think he's alluding to mental 1312 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,479 Speaker 1: as Pierce Morgan mentioned men that was there. But first 1313 01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,200 Speaker 1: of all, what is the left doing when they make 1314 01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:38,400 Speaker 1: me agree with with Piers Morgan, who is saying something 1315 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,080 Speaker 1: that we've talked about here many times already, which is 1316 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:46,679 Speaker 1: that the the hysteria. The greatest advertisement for pro Trump 1317 01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,680 Speaker 1: support that's out there right now that I know of, 1318 01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 1: is how much is who hates him and how much 1319 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,400 Speaker 1: they hate him. And we saw some of this in 1320 01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,599 Speaker 1: the Grammys, which I know, Grammy a lot of your 1321 01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:57,960 Speaker 1: like boot I'm talking about the Grammys, but it's quite quick. 1322 01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:01,720 Speaker 1: This is gonna be painless Grammy segment. Um you had 1323 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,479 Speaker 1: do we have? Yeah? We have? What is it? The 1324 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:10,760 Speaker 1: the moment that uh bust Buster Rhymes, who was made 1325 01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:14,080 Speaker 1: a breakout in the media and a music business when 1326 01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:15,920 Speaker 1: I was in high school. I think so it's it's 1327 01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,920 Speaker 1: been a while for Mr. For Mr. Rhymes, it has 1328 01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,160 Speaker 1: been a while. Um. But he came out with a 1329 01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,400 Speaker 1: tribe called Quest and a few others and this is 1330 01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,400 Speaker 1: what he had to say about the president's days. Play 1331 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:32,479 Speaker 1: it please, President Agent Orange. That's your wall. That's a 1332 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,960 Speaker 1: perpetulated I think about the states. I want to take 1333 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:40,920 Speaker 1: President Agent Orange. That's the tip. That's a bustle fair. 1334 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,320 Speaker 1: You know what if if if Mr if Mr Buster 1335 01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:50,880 Speaker 1: Rhymes wants to say that he thinks that Agent or 1336 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,960 Speaker 1: you know that he that the presidents agan lent. Satire 1337 01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:58,600 Speaker 1: is essential in a free society, and you have to 1338 01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,840 Speaker 1: be able to criticize, uh, those in power and and 1339 01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,200 Speaker 1: to mock them. I mean, look back at the power 1340 01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,639 Speaker 1: of political cartoons, stretching back all the way to the founding. 1341 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you have to be open to or you 1342 01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,160 Speaker 1: you have to be allowed to mock political figures on 1343 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,559 Speaker 1: so you know, if you making fun of the presence 1344 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,519 Speaker 1: very different from me than making fun of the presence 1345 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,720 Speaker 1: family or so. I get that, all right, But I 1346 01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,080 Speaker 1: just I just have to say I love this perception 1347 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,200 Speaker 1: that's out there among people in Hollywood and in the 1348 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,400 Speaker 1: music media, in the music industry, and of course elsewhere, 1349 01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,120 Speaker 1: but in those two places in particular, that there's somehow 1350 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:40,160 Speaker 1: being brave by doing this, you know, brave maybe is 1351 01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:44,479 Speaker 1: what I think it was. Joy uh Villa or Villa 1352 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,840 Speaker 1: was her name, standing up and wearing a Make America 1353 01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,360 Speaker 1: Great Again dress, which she clearly did as a publicity stunt. 1354 01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,040 Speaker 1: I haven't heard whether she supports Trump or not. But 1355 01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:55,160 Speaker 1: you do that so the people like me go on 1356 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,800 Speaker 1: radio and talk about you or really she wants people 1357 01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,920 Speaker 1: on TV and various channels that cover media, i'm sure, 1358 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:02,720 Speaker 1: or to cover music to talk about it, but not 1359 01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:06,720 Speaker 1: the less I it still counts. Um. There's all of 1360 01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:11,760 Speaker 1: this self congratulatory grandstanding that goes on, and somehow it 1361 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:15,160 Speaker 1: never it never ceases to uh, it never ceases to 1362 01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:21,240 Speaker 1: be a point of enjoyment. And and this pseudo bravery 1363 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,720 Speaker 1: for those on the left that they get to stand 1364 01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,320 Speaker 1: up and they say this stuff, and they know they're 1365 01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,800 Speaker 1: gonna get it's gonna be good for their careers. People 1366 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:29,599 Speaker 1: are gonna clap for them, they're gonna say it's awesome. 1367 01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,240 Speaker 1: But there's really no place now where you're less free 1368 01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 1: to state your opinion than I think in uh in 1369 01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,040 Speaker 1: Beyonce worship, I mean, and you better say that she 1370 01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,600 Speaker 1: is the greatest ever or else if you go on 1371 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,760 Speaker 1: social media and you say, you know what, that performance 1372 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,120 Speaker 1: that she gave was kind of that was trying really hard. 1373 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,519 Speaker 1: It just wasn't that good. People come down on you. 1374 01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:56,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you get it's you get told you're the worst, 1375 01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,280 Speaker 1: the worst kinds of names. So now I'm glad that 1376 01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm learning the rules for contemporary discourse in America. You 1377 01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,600 Speaker 1: have to hate Trump or else you're hitler. And you 1378 01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:10,360 Speaker 1: have to love Beyonce or else you're the worst ever. 1379 01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,360 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is the context for many 1380 01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,720 Speaker 1: of our discussions. Now. I have to tell you know once, 1381 01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,840 Speaker 1: I don't like worship of politicians. I like worship of 1382 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,439 Speaker 1: of media figures. I don't know if it's possible like 1383 01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,840 Speaker 1: even less but it's definitely right up there for me. 1384 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,439 Speaker 1: And the more someone tells me that I have to 1385 01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,840 Speaker 1: love someone's art or there, uh, you know whatever, if 1386 01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:34,880 Speaker 1: they're a writer, if they're a musician, the more that 1387 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,320 Speaker 1: I have to love their creative process or else I 1388 01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,640 Speaker 1: don't know anything. The more skeptical I've become, and the 1389 01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,400 Speaker 1: happier I am when I can set up and say, Na, sorry, 1390 01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:46,960 Speaker 1: it's it's just not that good. And whether you love 1391 01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,080 Speaker 1: her whole catalog of music or not, Beyonce at the 1392 01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:53,120 Speaker 1: Grammys just wasn't that good. Buck Sexton will be right back. 1393 01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:59,640 Speaker 1: Buck is back, everybody, Bucks back. It's more of America now, 1394 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:04,360 Speaker 1: role in your two cents one eight four four nine hundred. Buck. 1395 01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:08,679 Speaker 1: That's one eight four four nine hundred two eight to five. 1396 01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,000 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton back with you all now, thank you so 1397 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:18,040 Speaker 1: much for being here. Eight four four, two to five. So, 1398 01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:24,320 Speaker 1: the the Trump administration is dropping the Obama administration's guidelines 1399 01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:28,400 Speaker 1: for transgender students and their use of bathrooms in schools 1400 01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:32,080 Speaker 1: across the country. This is a departure, and I'm sure 1401 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,559 Speaker 1: the left is going departure from what had previously been 1402 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 1: set up by President Obama and his white House. So 1403 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure the left is gonna be very upset about this. Uh, 1404 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:45,439 Speaker 1: this is part of a larger discussion, a larger debate. 1405 01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,519 Speaker 1: Somebody even say culture war, to eliminate the differences between 1406 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,640 Speaker 1: the sexiest, to pretend that this is all just a 1407 01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 1: question of how one identifies, not of biological reality. We're 1408 01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,080 Speaker 1: joined now by an author who tackles that very subject 1409 01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,680 Speaker 1: in her new book, Ashley McGuire. She's a journalist and 1410 01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:08,160 Speaker 1: author of Sex Scandal, The Drive to Abolish Male and Female. Actually, 1411 01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,080 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us on the program. 1412 01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:15,759 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. All right. Uh so, gender norm 1413 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,200 Speaker 1: ng uh, the gender spectrum. This is all stuff that 1414 01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:23,000 Speaker 1: even as someone who went to a pretty left wing 1415 01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,680 Speaker 1: college but a little over well gosh, and I was 1416 01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:29,200 Speaker 1: like fifty years ago. Uh, this is new stuff to me. 1417 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,759 Speaker 1: I'm trying to learn the terminology. This is just changing 1418 01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:36,559 Speaker 1: very very rapidly, this whole gender studies and gender spectrum issue. 1419 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,519 Speaker 1: What's going on? Well, you know what I tried to 1420 01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,280 Speaker 1: do in the book is show all the different waves 1421 01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,920 Speaker 1: that is playing out in society. You know, I think 1422 01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,719 Speaker 1: that people think of this in their mind immediately jumps 1423 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,280 Speaker 1: to say the bathroom issue quote unquote, but in fact, 1424 01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:56,960 Speaker 1: this is happening everywhere, whether it's on the United States military, 1425 01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,479 Speaker 1: you know, on the one hand, having different physical standards 1426 01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,759 Speaker 1: for men and women, but on the other hand, essentially 1427 01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,840 Speaker 1: saying we're gonna put women in combat roles whether they 1428 01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,400 Speaker 1: like it or not. UM. Or then you know, having 1429 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,080 Speaker 1: a national debate about whether or not we should be 1430 01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:16,280 Speaker 1: requiring women to register for the military draft, something that 1431 01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, five years would have seemed completely insane um, 1432 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:24,799 Speaker 1: but actually turned into a national debate and the Senate 1433 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:29,080 Speaker 1: actually voted in favor of it. UM. To colleges and 1434 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:34,519 Speaker 1: universities starting to experiment with coed dorm rooms while at 1435 01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:39,000 Speaker 1: the same time banning things like single sex clubs, and 1436 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,320 Speaker 1: then wondering, you know why it is that they have 1437 01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:46,400 Speaker 1: rape epidemics. Two elementary school kids, um. You know, I 1438 01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,559 Speaker 1: give the example of one teacher and I think Washington 1439 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:53,720 Speaker 1: State banning legos from her kids classroom. Um, because the 1440 01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:55,840 Speaker 1: boys were more inclined to it while the girls were 1441 01:17:55,880 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 1: more inclined towards UM, girly toys. Lego is are part 1442 01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:04,000 Speaker 1: of the patriarchy. I did not know that. Well, no, 1443 01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,160 Speaker 1: it's totally affecting toys. I mean, Target last year came 1444 01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,120 Speaker 1: out and said, um, we're no longer going to categorize 1445 01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,559 Speaker 1: our toys based on boy or girl. And in fact, 1446 01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,840 Speaker 1: we're not even going to use blue or pink background 1447 01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,840 Speaker 1: wall paper on the shelves that we put them on 1448 01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:23,960 Speaker 1: because that's so offensive. And this whole notion of of 1449 01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:29,600 Speaker 1: gender versus biological sex, this is what people try to 1450 01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:31,760 Speaker 1: put I've had people point this out to me as 1451 01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,280 Speaker 1: though they're trying to enlighten me, like I'm coming out 1452 01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,360 Speaker 1: of the dark ages and I know nothing, And I say, well, no, jet, 1453 01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,240 Speaker 1: you're you're there's XX chromosome, x Y chromosome and say, well, no, 1454 01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:45,280 Speaker 1: that's biological sex. That's not gender, And I said, well no, 1455 01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:49,160 Speaker 1: actually it is gender. There seems to be some continued 1456 01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,960 Speaker 1: confusion on this point. This is not what I think 1457 01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,280 Speaker 1: is what it is situation. You can think whatever you want, 1458 01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,080 Speaker 1: people can change their name to whatever they want, they 1459 01:18:56,120 --> 01:19:00,840 Speaker 1: can dress however they want, but you can't change your gender. Well, 1460 01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:02,960 Speaker 1: light And one thing I point out is actually we're 1461 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,280 Speaker 1: not even using the right language. Um, when we talk 1462 01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,800 Speaker 1: about men and women, the correct word is sex. You know, 1463 01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,600 Speaker 1: when you check a box on a form, usually it 1464 01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,479 Speaker 1: says sex male or female, and that is a correct 1465 01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,200 Speaker 1: scientific way to refer to people as male or female. 1466 01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,040 Speaker 1: Gender is a word that basically came about in the 1467 01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:26,160 Speaker 1: fifties and sixties, mostly out of you know, women studies 1468 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:31,479 Speaker 1: departments at colleges and universities, and it's a basically meaningless label, 1469 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,160 Speaker 1: and in fact, many people who are sort of behind 1470 01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:39,160 Speaker 1: the gender ideology push will agree and say, um, you know, 1471 01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,680 Speaker 1: this word can mean whatever you want it to mean. 1472 01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,920 Speaker 1: And in fact, the Obama administration, one of the things 1473 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,520 Speaker 1: that they did in the um example of the administrative 1474 01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:51,040 Speaker 1: regulation that you mentioned at the beginning of the show 1475 01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:55,680 Speaker 1: was actually replaced sex with gender and say that you 1476 01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,960 Speaker 1: cannot discriminate on the basis of gender. Well, what does 1477 01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,719 Speaker 1: that even mean mean? How can a woman, for example, 1478 01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:06,800 Speaker 1: stations being discriminated against. Um, if you know, male and 1479 01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:10,759 Speaker 1: female actually aren't e then legitimate categorics anymore. I remember 1480 01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:12,840 Speaker 1: not long ago being on radio and saying, you know, 1481 01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:17,320 Speaker 1: it's just a matter of time before uh, individuals who 1482 01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,439 Speaker 1: are accused of serious crimes that are going to serve 1483 01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,920 Speaker 1: lengthy prisons are convicted of serious crimes that are gonna 1484 01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:26,040 Speaker 1: serve lengthy prison sentences decide, you know, better be better 1485 01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,719 Speaker 1: to be the one biological male and the all female 1486 01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:33,479 Speaker 1: prison than the alternative. And I figured, based on the 1487 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:38,200 Speaker 1: logic of this progressive leftist movement to eradicate the distinctions 1488 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,240 Speaker 1: that exist, very obvious distinctions of gender, that was only 1489 01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,280 Speaker 1: a matter of time before there would start to be 1490 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,200 Speaker 1: policies that reflect this. And I've found out recently that 1491 01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,760 Speaker 1: some prison policies do reflect this, that that there now 1492 01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:52,400 Speaker 1: are male inmates that are that say they are transitioning, 1493 01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,680 Speaker 1: that they are transgender females, and they're putting them in 1494 01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:57,760 Speaker 1: female prisons. I'm not sure it's the case in this 1495 01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,320 Speaker 1: country yet, but I believe it's happened. Think it might 1496 01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:01,920 Speaker 1: have been an Australia recent I have to check on 1497 01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:03,600 Speaker 1: the news story that I'm thinking of the top of 1498 01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,280 Speaker 1: my head. But this is happening in places now they're 1499 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:10,760 Speaker 1: actually taking it to that length. Oh sure. And you know, 1500 01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,959 Speaker 1: I cite the example in my book of a domestic 1501 01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,639 Speaker 1: violence shelter in Canada that was forced to go all 1502 01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:20,160 Speaker 1: the way to the highest court in Canada to argue 1503 01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,000 Speaker 1: that men should not be allowed into a domestic violence 1504 01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,800 Speaker 1: shelter for women. Um you know, and I think, where 1505 01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,519 Speaker 1: does it stop, you know, how soon until we have 1506 01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:34,920 Speaker 1: um biological boys in girls summer camps. I mean, just 1507 01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,400 Speaker 1: last week we heard that the boy Scouts is now 1508 01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,720 Speaker 1: going to let in whoever based on whatever sex they 1509 01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:45,240 Speaker 1: identify with. But we're talking about children, underage children potentially 1510 01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:50,760 Speaker 1: placing biological girl intense, potentially overnight with pubescent boys. Now 1511 01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:52,960 Speaker 1: tell me how in your book you you get into 1512 01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:59,080 Speaker 1: how embracing sexual differences can make policing safer, government more efficient, 1513 01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:04,280 Speaker 1: and hedge lose less money. How so well with policing, 1514 01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:08,080 Speaker 1: for example, it's very interesting. Um they found that women, 1515 01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,000 Speaker 1: because men and women have such a different approach to things, 1516 01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:15,479 Speaker 1: and because um, women are physically just not as strong 1517 01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:19,800 Speaker 1: on average as men. UM, they found that women have 1518 01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:24,200 Speaker 1: a very different approach to policing and actually have a 1519 01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:28,719 Speaker 1: style that frequently de escalates violent situations because a woman 1520 01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,240 Speaker 1: knows that if it's a matchup of her strength versus 1521 01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,280 Speaker 1: some two fifty pounds bad guy, she's not going to 1522 01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,639 Speaker 1: throw him to the ground. She probably can't even throw 1523 01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:38,760 Speaker 1: him into the back of a car, but she can 1524 01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:42,280 Speaker 1: talk him down out of a violent situation. And I 1525 01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:46,000 Speaker 1: cite all all sorts of studies that have found that, um, 1526 01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:49,720 Speaker 1: you know, when we're looking at police brutality excess of 1527 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:54,760 Speaker 1: force lawsuits, that women are dramatically less likely almost never 1528 01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:58,519 Speaker 1: have lost it against them like that because they just 1529 01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,600 Speaker 1: don't opt for that of approach to policing. And so, 1530 01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:03,639 Speaker 1: you know, the last couple of years, we've seen all 1531 01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,679 Speaker 1: of these problems with police brutality and violence, and people 1532 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,640 Speaker 1: are starting to argue, actually, more female police officers might 1533 01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,720 Speaker 1: solve that problem. So that's that example. And then with 1534 01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,600 Speaker 1: the hedge fund UM example, I talked about the O 1535 01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:22,280 Speaker 1: eight financial crisis and how because women are overall less 1536 01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,720 Speaker 1: or more risk averse UM hedge funds that were run 1537 01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,559 Speaker 1: by women or had higher percentages of women actually lost 1538 01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:33,599 Speaker 1: less money in the financial crisis UM because they were, 1539 01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, less inclined to get involved in some of 1540 01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:40,080 Speaker 1: these risky UM financial deals that got us into the 1541 01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:43,040 Speaker 1: into that crisis. And so a lot of businesses are 1542 01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:47,720 Speaker 1: actually finding that the more UM women they have, the 1543 01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,200 Speaker 1: more likely they are to have a more balanced approach. 1544 01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,680 Speaker 1: That it's a good balance between you know, sort of 1545 01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,840 Speaker 1: the male propensity for risk the female propensity to sort 1546 01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,760 Speaker 1: of have a horizontal view of things and that these 1547 01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,840 Speaker 1: are things that we shouldn't be threatened by, or that 1548 01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,880 Speaker 1: it's not patronizing to say that women have a different 1549 01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:07,120 Speaker 1: approach to these things. It's it's a mutually beneficial thing 1550 01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:08,960 Speaker 1: that helps us bring out the best to each other. 1551 01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:12,160 Speaker 1: Speaking to Ashley Maguire, she's the author of a new book, 1552 01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,519 Speaker 1: Sex Scandal to Drive to Abolish Male and Female. One 1553 01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,240 Speaker 1: last one for you, actually, before we have to go, 1554 01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,479 Speaker 1: why is this so important to the left there? I 1555 01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,479 Speaker 1: know people that are not themselves transgender, have no one 1556 01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:26,160 Speaker 1: in their family who's transgender, and don't even know anybody 1557 01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,559 Speaker 1: who is transgender. And if you use the wrong pronoun 1558 01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:33,000 Speaker 1: or you run a foul of their leftist orthodoxy on this, 1559 01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:35,840 Speaker 1: they will lose their minds on you. How did this 1560 01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:39,439 Speaker 1: become such a big issue to progressive Well, I think 1561 01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,479 Speaker 1: it's a real ideological agenda, and I think there are 1562 01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:46,320 Speaker 1: people who are pushing it who have the noble goal 1563 01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:51,519 Speaker 1: of equality. Um. They're they're thinking about equality between the sexes, um. 1564 01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:53,840 Speaker 1: But the reality is that there are others who are 1565 01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:58,160 Speaker 1: pushing an agenda to essentially deconstruct nature. Um that they 1566 01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,120 Speaker 1: don't like the laws of nature. They don't like the 1567 01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:03,479 Speaker 1: reality that you know, we are male and female, were 1568 01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,080 Speaker 1: not disembodied, that our bodies are pretty much a part 1569 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,680 Speaker 1: of who we are. Um. And I think that, you know, 1570 01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,880 Speaker 1: that's a big part of why you're seeing this actually 1571 01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,519 Speaker 1: starting to be pushed onto children, because the younger you 1572 01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:19,679 Speaker 1: can sort of get people with this mentality, um, the better. 1573 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,479 Speaker 1: But you know, I think that if the end goal 1574 01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:26,960 Speaker 1: is equality, the idea that the only way we can 1575 01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,240 Speaker 1: achieve it is if we make men and women identical 1576 01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,599 Speaker 1: is ultimately a doomed one and one that is going 1577 01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,560 Speaker 1: to hurt women because it makes it forces them to 1578 01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:39,320 Speaker 1: compete against men on male terms. The book is Sex Scandal, 1579 01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:42,400 Speaker 1: The Drive to Abolish Male and Female author Ashley McGuire, 1580 01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:43,920 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining. Great to have you. 1581 01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,639 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Buck Saxton back with you all. Now. 1582 01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:53,639 Speaker 1: Oh boy, we don't have the details on this yet, 1583 01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:58,800 Speaker 1: but Drudge Report hat tipped for posting it. The Washington 1584 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:03,559 Speaker 1: Post is supposed to lead off tomorrow. It's lead story 1585 01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:08,519 Speaker 1: is going to be Justice Department warned White House that 1586 01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:18,400 Speaker 1: Flynn could be vulnerable to Russian blackmail. Oh um, look, 1587 01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,400 Speaker 1: this is gonna this is gonna come down to what 1588 01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:26,439 Speaker 1: the details are that's that someone could be vulnerable to 1589 01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:31,880 Speaker 1: blackmail by Russia maybe just I don't know. I don't 1590 01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,559 Speaker 1: want to speculate here, but if the Post is running 1591 01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,479 Speaker 1: with this, I'm not surprised at all that someone in 1592 01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:41,880 Speaker 1: the Justice Department, which is is overrun with and at 1593 01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:47,040 Speaker 1: very senior levels with lefty progressives, that someone may be 1594 01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,840 Speaker 1: and now we may be talking about oh man, this stuff, 1595 01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:56,719 Speaker 1: this is just getting getting dirty. Everybody the background investigation files. 1596 01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,759 Speaker 1: There are a few things more sensitive that the government 1597 01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:05,320 Speaker 1: has access to on an individual basis then your background investigation. 1598 01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,360 Speaker 1: But I had I had a top secret clearance. I 1599 01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:11,560 Speaker 1: went through that whole process, and that's just something that 1600 01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:13,360 Speaker 1: you know. And I had to go to the polygraph 1601 01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:15,920 Speaker 1: and all of that not not fond memories. There's no 1602 01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,120 Speaker 1: part of you that sits there when you're being polygraphed 1603 01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,519 Speaker 1: and the guy or girl that's polygraph and he starts 1604 01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:23,439 Speaker 1: asking you the most personal questions imaginable, and you're like, 1605 01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,759 Speaker 1: this is great, sign me up kind of the polygraph 1606 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:31,560 Speaker 1: again tomorrow. I'm really enjoying myself. I rather like polygraph. No, 1607 01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,800 Speaker 1: you never think that it's it's not a fun not 1608 01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:38,280 Speaker 1: a fun situation of course. Also it's voluntary, but it 1609 01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:40,000 Speaker 1: can be used against you at a court of law. 1610 01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:43,240 Speaker 1: And I've heard people tell stories at least about how 1611 01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,200 Speaker 1: it's I'm gonna be like, you know, yeah, I haven't 1612 01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:49,080 Speaker 1: done anything since you know, I buried that body twenty 1613 01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,040 Speaker 1: years ago in the backyard. But I mean, you know, 1614 01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:53,320 Speaker 1: now I'm ready to serve the government again. It's like nope, 1615 01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:55,760 Speaker 1: now you're ready to go to prison. So you don't 1616 01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:59,280 Speaker 1: want to say things in the polygraph that are incriminating. Um, 1617 01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:03,600 Speaker 1: But they have all this background information on you. A 1618 01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,479 Speaker 1: lot of it is when you look at the raw 1619 01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:08,920 Speaker 1: until they collect, and it can be stuff that you're 1620 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:15,120 Speaker 1: ex spouse maybe saying about you. You're really annoying neighbor 1621 01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:19,360 Speaker 1: who played the loudest e d M electronic dance music 1622 01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,320 Speaker 1: ever for two years and you hated. He may get 1623 01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:26,000 Speaker 1: to tell the background investigator that you are a you know, 1624 01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:30,160 Speaker 1: a a Chinese run spy or something you know you 1625 01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:33,360 Speaker 1: don't know, or that you're selling drugs or whatever, and 1626 01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,720 Speaker 1: that just goes into your file and then they adjudicate. 1627 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:37,719 Speaker 1: Then they actually look at things and then they decide 1628 01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:42,800 Speaker 1: are you someone who are these accusations, if they're serious accusations, 1629 01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,519 Speaker 1: are they true and they make it. I should also 1630 01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:48,080 Speaker 1: point out, by the way that a senior I would 1631 01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:50,920 Speaker 1: be senior member of the NSC. That's a considered a 1632 01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:55,479 Speaker 1: close confidante of General Flynn's was denied a clearance recently, 1633 01:28:55,840 --> 01:29:01,040 Speaker 1: and the reporting was that even CEI Director Pompeo agreed 1634 01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:06,160 Speaker 1: with that designation. So that's that's not good. Um, But 1635 01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:08,439 Speaker 1: I want to I really am curious to see what 1636 01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,559 Speaker 1: the you can tell they are. This is like clockwork. 1637 01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they are gonna push hard to see if 1638 01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:18,600 Speaker 1: they can get a very senior level resignation from the 1639 01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:22,479 Speaker 1: Trump administration this week. And I don't usually I would 1640 01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,200 Speaker 1: say to you, Look, the Trump team knows you never 1641 01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:28,080 Speaker 1: play kate the left by feeding them one of your own. 1642 01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:32,000 Speaker 1: You you'll never make them go away by conceding, by 1643 01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:36,480 Speaker 1: trying to, uh make some sort of of a concession. 1644 01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,720 Speaker 1: You know, there's no there's no sacrifice to the progressive 1645 01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:43,400 Speaker 1: gods you can make. As someone who does not adopt 1646 01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:48,040 Speaker 1: the policies and attitudes and beliefs of the left. There's 1647 01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:52,040 Speaker 1: nothing you can do that will make them stop or 1648 01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:56,320 Speaker 1: go away. They're like Skynet and Terminator or rather um 1649 01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:00,600 Speaker 1: the terminator in terminators. Absolutely will not it does not 1650 01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:06,000 Speaker 1: feel pity or remorse. Kyle Reese speaking to Sarah Connor. Uh, 1651 01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:08,760 Speaker 1: the progressive left does not feel pity or remorse, and 1652 01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:12,200 Speaker 1: it absolutely will not stop until America is destroyed. Uh. 1653 01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,720 Speaker 1: But I don't know if they can. I don't know 1654 01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:17,240 Speaker 1: if they can hold the line on this one. I 1655 01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,960 Speaker 1: don't I don't know if they should. It depends on 1656 01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:23,120 Speaker 1: what they have on on Flynn here. But the look, 1657 01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,759 Speaker 1: the Post knows that if they run a story about 1658 01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:30,960 Speaker 1: it about a senior government official like this that's very 1659 01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:34,600 Speaker 1: specific at this point in time, on anonymous sources and 1660 01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,000 Speaker 1: it's hazy, there's gonna be a real backlash. Maybe they'll 1661 01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:38,880 Speaker 1: still do it. You know, you look at what you know. 1662 01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:42,160 Speaker 1: BuzzFeed was like, what's up, bro? It just like drop 1663 01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:44,920 Speaker 1: the dacier on Trump and you know it ever, man 1664 01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:47,960 Speaker 1: like you'll figure it out. No, that's not how this 1665 01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:50,920 Speaker 1: is supposed to work, um, BuzzFeed, But that was what 1666 01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:55,400 Speaker 1: they did. We'll see, we'll see what happens here with 1667 01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:59,200 Speaker 1: this Washington Post story. But I I would be if 1668 01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:01,880 Speaker 1: I were the inner circle of the Trump administration. I 1669 01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:03,800 Speaker 1: would be concerned right now. Look, I'm always going to 1670 01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:06,000 Speaker 1: tell you how I feel about this stuff. I'm not 1671 01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:12,720 Speaker 1: going to hedge because I know that it's among conservatives 1672 01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:14,800 Speaker 1: out there. There are a lot of them, not all 1673 01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:16,360 Speaker 1: of them still a never Trump movement, but a lot 1674 01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,240 Speaker 1: of them just don't want to hear any criticism of 1675 01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:22,439 Speaker 1: of Trump board the administration. This isn't Trump criticism per se. 1676 01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,439 Speaker 1: This is just looking at the reality what's going with Flynn. 1677 01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:30,360 Speaker 1: But again, if he has if they have real information 1678 01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:33,559 Speaker 1: on how he could be vulnerable to black man, being 1679 01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:35,960 Speaker 1: vulnerable to blackmail doesn't mean you're being blackmail doesn't mean 1680 01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:40,080 Speaker 1: you've done anything wrong. And plenty of times people in 1681 01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,880 Speaker 1: the past have been denied a security clearance or denied 1682 01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,680 Speaker 1: a senior government role not because they've done anything wrong, 1683 01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:51,479 Speaker 1: which is because they may be a com risk for compromise. Uh, 1684 01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:55,439 Speaker 1: compromise that I think is what the Russians would say. 1685 01:31:56,479 --> 01:32:01,360 Speaker 1: And so, uh, that's a possibility here. If it is 1686 01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:07,320 Speaker 1: the case that General Flynn is in some way indebted 1687 01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:09,639 Speaker 1: to Rush, I I don't know. He did work as 1688 01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:12,320 Speaker 1: a and I've got to be honest with you, he 1689 01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:15,599 Speaker 1: worked for a while as I paid contributor to Russia Today, 1690 01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:19,720 Speaker 1: which is a network that even very early on in 1691 01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:21,960 Speaker 1: my media career as a former CI analyst, and I 1692 01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:24,519 Speaker 1: was a g S nobody, you know, just just another 1693 01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,640 Speaker 1: dude showing up to Langley, one of a cast of 1694 01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,599 Speaker 1: of of a lot I can't tell you the actual number, 1695 01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:33,639 Speaker 1: but one of the cast of a lot of people there. 1696 01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:38,840 Speaker 1: And when Russia Today was like, ye, his book, would 1697 01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,639 Speaker 1: you like to calm and the will him you come 1698 01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:43,960 Speaker 1: on the show and you'll ut do that? That's actually 1699 01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:45,840 Speaker 1: not at the producers sound either. I'm giving you a 1700 01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:50,000 Speaker 1: fake Trudeau impersonation and a fake Russia Today producer impersonation. 1701 01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:51,240 Speaker 1: They were like, hey, Buck, would you like come on 1702 01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:53,840 Speaker 1: Russia Today? But in my mind it's more to luck 1703 01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:56,679 Speaker 1: this litteral like, wouldn't you come on? We'll talk about 1704 01:32:56,800 --> 01:33:01,560 Speaker 1: the Fordham policy and the you can discuss called Americle's 1705 01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:04,679 Speaker 1: the worst gone through in the world. So I would 1706 01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:06,720 Speaker 1: not go on r T. I just wouldn't do it. 1707 01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:08,320 Speaker 1: And they asked me to go, I'm not doing it 1708 01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,600 Speaker 1: and I have no interest and I'll go on MSNBC. 1709 01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:12,600 Speaker 1: I mean, as long as I feel like you're not 1710 01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, I'll go and speak to either side, but 1711 01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:19,000 Speaker 1: you can't bet. You can't be funded by an oppositional 1712 01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:23,519 Speaker 1: foreign government that's and trying to undermine the security and 1713 01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:25,720 Speaker 1: foreign policy interests of the United States that that I 1714 01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:29,040 Speaker 1: will not go and participate in. And Flynn did and 1715 01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:33,719 Speaker 1: I got it. It was not smart. So that's a problem. 1716 01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen here, but this is 1717 01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:39,160 Speaker 1: not looking good. And I bring this up, and I 1718 01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:41,360 Speaker 1: know it seems like why Buck, why so much focused 1719 01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:46,320 Speaker 1: on this? If they are able to get a very 1720 01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:49,040 Speaker 1: this is national security vised very senior position. If they're 1721 01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:54,320 Speaker 1: able to take Flynn down over this, fair or not, Man, 1722 01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:58,719 Speaker 1: the media is gonna go into hyper drive on this stuff. 1723 01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:01,000 Speaker 1: They're gonna You're gonna see so many stories about the 1724 01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:04,080 Speaker 1: Russia connections in the week ahead and disarray in the 1725 01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:09,519 Speaker 1: White House. This could be big problems for Trump's Trump team. 1726 01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:13,360 Speaker 1: So we'll move on to immigration or a second Buck 1727 01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:16,600 Speaker 1: Sexton with America now where there is always something to 1728 01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:19,400 Speaker 1: talk about where you can trade opinions with Buck. I'm 1729 01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:21,880 Speaker 1: not sure you'll win, though. Just call eight four four 1730 01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:26,280 Speaker 1: nine hundred Buck. That's eight four four nine hundred two 1731 01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:30,920 Speaker 1: eight to five. Alright, Buck, you're on indeed, buck Is 1732 01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:33,840 Speaker 1: back lines are open here eight four four nine zero 1733 01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:37,720 Speaker 1: zero to eight to five. Butch in North Carolina. But 1734 01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:42,120 Speaker 1: you're speaking of Buck. Hey, Buck, good afternoon to you 1735 01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:47,560 Speaker 1: you two. Sir. I enjoyed you and uh uh a 1736 01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:50,640 Speaker 1: mastador molten Maria bart Rollo this morning. Oh, thank you 1737 01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:52,240 Speaker 1: very much. It's great. It's a lot of fun. I'll 1738 01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:54,400 Speaker 1: be back on Maria show, I think this Thursday from 1739 01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:57,040 Speaker 1: six to nine EASTERNS. Anyone listening, tune into Fox Business 1740 01:34:57,080 --> 01:35:00,800 Speaker 1: and thank you, sir. I enjoyed and Bastard Bolton's great. 1741 01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:02,680 Speaker 1: By the way, you got a guy who is tremendously 1742 01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:05,720 Speaker 1: knowledgeable about the world legitimately unlike some of the other 1743 01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:08,799 Speaker 1: TV experts on other networks that say they're foreign policy 1744 01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,760 Speaker 1: or national security experts, Bolton is really smart and he's 1745 01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:13,720 Speaker 1: also a really cool guy. He'll go on Red Eye 1746 01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:15,800 Speaker 1: on Fox and does a great job. I think you 1747 01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:17,560 Speaker 1: even call him either the mayor of the president of 1748 01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:19,880 Speaker 1: Red Eye before he's he's he's he's fun man. He's 1749 01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:22,960 Speaker 1: a really smart guy and uh obviously great mustache and 1750 01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:24,600 Speaker 1: is a lot of fun to be on TV with. 1751 01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:28,799 Speaker 1: So thank you for noticing that. Bush. Yeah, I enjoyed 1752 01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:33,240 Speaker 1: that this button was calling it is I think the 1753 01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:37,519 Speaker 1: main culprit behind all of this left stuff we have 1754 01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:42,360 Speaker 1: going on now that is thoroughly promoting it is George Soros. 1755 01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:46,080 Speaker 1: It's pretty love documented. He's paying these people to protest, 1756 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:49,640 Speaker 1: and you know, the man is pretty nefarious to begin with. 1757 01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:54,600 Speaker 1: And I've been curious for several years now, why is 1758 01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:57,560 Speaker 1: this gentleman I hate to call and I use that 1759 01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:01,000 Speaker 1: term loosely. I wonder why he is not guilty yet 1760 01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:06,719 Speaker 1: seditions one of the three terms mentioned in the constitution. Uh, well, 1761 01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:09,960 Speaker 1: he's allowed to. You can pay people to pro that's 1762 01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,120 Speaker 1: that's not illegal to pay people to protest. I don't 1763 01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:17,160 Speaker 1: think it's honest or a good idea, But he looks 1764 01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:20,759 Speaker 1: Soros's hand and a lot of these things is hidden 1765 01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:24,040 Speaker 1: because it goes through organizations that act as middle men, 1766 01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:26,320 Speaker 1: trying to make it seem like they're more grassroots than 1767 01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:28,960 Speaker 1: they are. And this is by the way, commonplace with 1768 01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:32,719 Speaker 1: a lot of leftist activist groups, particularly on the environmentalist side. 1769 01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:36,200 Speaker 1: I've seen how you get these major donors and they 1770 01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:39,040 Speaker 1: give money to these middlemen organizations that work in the 1771 01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:41,480 Speaker 1: environment and then they give money to even smaller organizations 1772 01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:43,479 Speaker 1: and the environment. People can say that this is just 1773 01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:45,080 Speaker 1: to spread the wealth around, but of course what it 1774 01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:48,759 Speaker 1: does is it hides the hand of who's who's behind 1775 01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:50,360 Speaker 1: all this. So I have to be honest with you, 1776 01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:53,280 Speaker 1: but it's not. It's not sedition to pay protesters, but 1777 01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:58,640 Speaker 1: it's also I think indicative of the activist left dishonesty. 1778 01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:01,160 Speaker 1: If they were to come out and tell people one 1779 01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:03,320 Speaker 1: who's behind them, who's supporting them, they know that that 1780 01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:07,880 Speaker 1: would be a problem for public perception. And also they 1781 01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:10,000 Speaker 1: like to make things seem like they're something they're not. 1782 01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:13,720 Speaker 1: There's a there's this the astro turf. I think that 1783 01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:15,840 Speaker 1: it was a Nancy Pelosio first started using that about 1784 01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:17,360 Speaker 1: I think she said that about the Tea Party, which 1785 01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:20,280 Speaker 1: was not true. But the notion that you have these 1786 01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:22,439 Speaker 1: very wealthy donors that are paying for all these people 1787 01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:26,960 Speaker 1: to make something seem like a a main street populist 1788 01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:30,760 Speaker 1: uprising on an issue, um, that's if it were real, 1789 01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:32,760 Speaker 1: they wouldn't need people to pay them, right. And of 1790 01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:36,040 Speaker 1: course the protest culture on the left is is well ingrained, 1791 01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:40,640 Speaker 1: and not just protests but Boycott's these are just culturally 1792 01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:44,120 Speaker 1: things that are much more commonplace among progressives and they 1793 01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:47,599 Speaker 1: are among uh conservatives. And you can make your own 1794 01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,679 Speaker 1: choice or make your own conclusions about whether that's because 1795 01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, conservatives have to go and work and pay 1796 01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:57,880 Speaker 1: the mortgage. So yeah, but if is to bring down 1797 01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:03,680 Speaker 1: the United States, that that would be true. Um, but 1798 01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:06,680 Speaker 1: I don't think you can point to I don't think 1799 01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:09,439 Speaker 1: that Toros is banging anybody to walk around with uh, 1800 01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:11,599 Speaker 1: you know, let's march on the White House and overthrow 1801 01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:14,439 Speaker 1: the government sign. So it's a very hard, very hard 1802 01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:16,040 Speaker 1: case to make. And you bring up an interesting point. 1803 01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:17,920 Speaker 1: I think I said even on the show last week, 1804 01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:21,440 Speaker 1: only three crimes that are mentioned specifically in the Constitution, 1805 01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:26,640 Speaker 1: and they are treason, piracy, and counterfeiting. So treason is 1806 01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:30,840 Speaker 1: a constitutionally listed crime. But it's a very high bar 1807 01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:33,240 Speaker 1: for for a good reason. But butch, I appreciate you 1808 01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:35,559 Speaker 1: calling in from from North Carolina, Shields High, and thank 1809 01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:39,120 Speaker 1: you for sharing your thoughts. All right, immigration, man, I 1810 01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:42,479 Speaker 1: I want to get immigration Friday, and I kinda went 1811 01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:44,840 Speaker 1: off on a buck tangent. I wanted to I want 1812 01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:47,479 Speaker 1: to hand out some buckslaps two uh people on the 1813 01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:49,960 Speaker 1: left and wish I should start getting we need to 1814 01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:51,760 Speaker 1: get a slap noise. I want to do a buck slap. 1815 01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:55,559 Speaker 1: It's like, uh, but thinking it's more like a karate 1816 01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:57,320 Speaker 1: chop than a slap. I don't know why that's how, 1817 01:38:57,520 --> 01:38:59,479 Speaker 1: That's how I visualize it. At least maybe a fly 1818 01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:03,760 Speaker 1: kick or a roundhouse Chuck Norris style. But I wanted 1819 01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:06,320 Speaker 1: to talk to you about immigration on Friday. I didn't 1820 01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:08,000 Speaker 1: really get to it. Now today here we are in 1821 01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:12,240 Speaker 1: latter stages of the The Freedom Hunt broadcast for three 1822 01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:15,439 Speaker 1: hours here, and I'm just getting to it. Here's this is. 1823 01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:17,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep hitting this issue. This is going to 1824 01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:21,720 Speaker 1: be the uh, the central front I think for the 1825 01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:28,840 Speaker 1: Trump administration in twenty seventeen. My expectation is that they 1826 01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:34,920 Speaker 1: will have greater resistance, more fighting, and will expend more 1827 01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:39,880 Speaker 1: of their time, energy and political capital on immigration than 1828 01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:44,519 Speaker 1: really any other issue because on Obamacare, Obama has never 1829 01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:49,519 Speaker 1: been popular. Uh. And they also are going to go 1830 01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:52,519 Speaker 1: about repeal in a place in a way that I 1831 01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:56,840 Speaker 1: think is going to be piece by peace, which is 1832 01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,639 Speaker 1: gonna be harder for the left to say, oh, they're 1833 01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:03,320 Speaker 1: kicking off your insurance there, which is good. Hopefully they 1834 01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:06,439 Speaker 1: do this thing, right, um, and they'll they'll get away 1835 01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:08,799 Speaker 1: from Obamacare. Everyone I know, and I know I started 1836 01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:12,960 Speaker 1: talking immigration here, I'm talking Obamacare after the tangents are 1837 01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:15,640 Speaker 1: run fast and furious right here. Sorry about that, um, 1838 01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:20,760 Speaker 1: But the reality of Obamacare is that it's bad and 1839 01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,280 Speaker 1: people who haven't know it, and there are some people 1840 01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:26,600 Speaker 1: that are benefiting from it, but primarily through Medicaid, and 1841 01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:28,280 Speaker 1: that's not really the promise of what this was. It 1842 01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:32,479 Speaker 1: was supposed to be better health care, affordable, affordable health 1843 01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:35,920 Speaker 1: care for all, and what it's turned into is subsidized 1844 01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:38,760 Speaker 1: health care for some terrible health care that they're paying 1845 01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:40,519 Speaker 1: way too much more for a lot of other people, 1846 01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:44,120 Speaker 1: and a lot of Medicaid expansions that eat up a 1847 01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:48,400 Speaker 1: considerable percentage of state's budgets, and and it's wildly expensive. 1848 01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:51,400 Speaker 1: And then the moment you start putting more illegals on 1849 01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:54,920 Speaker 1: these exchanges, I mean, just imagine where the call which 1850 01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:58,040 Speaker 1: direction the cost curve is gonna go on? There? Okay, illegals, 1851 01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:01,559 Speaker 1: there's a good transition point immigration. And already you can 1852 01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:04,040 Speaker 1: see the Left is gearing up for a huge fight 1853 01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:08,040 Speaker 1: on this. Over the weekend, you had interesting exchanges I 1854 01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:09,720 Speaker 1: don't think you have any audio for you right now, 1855 01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:13,720 Speaker 1: but we have interesting exchanges between Miller, who is the 1856 01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:18,280 Speaker 1: White House Senior policy advisor, and George Stephanopolis specifically on 1857 01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:22,760 Speaker 1: voter fraud, and they you can see there there's this 1858 01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:25,080 Speaker 1: part of the left that likes to say, well, you 1859 01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:27,000 Speaker 1: don't have any evidence, and then they say, well, we 1860 01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:31,280 Speaker 1: have circumstantial evidence for voter fraud that primarily would involve 1861 01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:36,360 Speaker 1: non citizens, including illegals, but also just non citizen Green 1862 01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:40,840 Speaker 1: card holders, and they they get very agitated over this, 1863 01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:43,519 Speaker 1: and they'll usually stumble into there's no such thing as 1864 01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:45,639 Speaker 1: voter fraud, and then you point out, well, no, actually 1865 01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:48,679 Speaker 1: there is voter fraud, and then they go, okay, fine, 1866 01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:52,599 Speaker 1: but there's not a lot of voter fraud, and you say, well, 1867 01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:56,120 Speaker 1: how would we know. And when you start to come 1868 01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:58,400 Speaker 1: up with ways to look into this more thoroughly and 1869 01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:04,240 Speaker 1: establish what the real number of of illegal votes cast 1870 01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:07,639 Speaker 1: would be in any election, there's a tremendous amount of pushback. 1871 01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:13,000 Speaker 1: I think it's because the Democrat Party realizes that if there, 1872 01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:18,360 Speaker 1: if if there is a um an evidence based conclusion 1873 01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:21,920 Speaker 1: that we reach that voter fraud is substantial, doesn't have 1874 01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:24,960 Speaker 1: to be three million. If it's fifty hundred thousand, I 1875 01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:27,800 Speaker 1: think people would say, WHOA, that's way too much. And 1876 01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:29,560 Speaker 1: when you look at the number of votes cast and 1877 01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:32,840 Speaker 1: the number of people who are registered to vote who 1878 01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:36,360 Speaker 1: are not citizens, and how easily this can happen when 1879 01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:40,200 Speaker 1: in different government offices they are offering driver's license, they're 1880 01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:45,760 Speaker 1: offering government benefits to people and simultaneously handing them a um, 1881 01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:51,479 Speaker 1: handing them a voter registration card. You can see how 1882 01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:55,960 Speaker 1: even as a good faith error, this could be happening 1883 01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:58,320 Speaker 1: in considerable numbers. I don't know what the numbers are, 1884 01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:01,799 Speaker 1: but everybody that I know who follows the immigration closely 1885 01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:05,760 Speaker 1: and isn't in the tank for open borders or you know, internationalist, 1886 01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,560 Speaker 1: you know we are one world perspective on things says no, no, 1887 01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:12,000 Speaker 1: we don't have the numbers. We don't know. It's also 1888 01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:14,040 Speaker 1: like when people say there are eleven million illegals in 1889 01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:16,400 Speaker 1: this country, Okay, that's been the number for a long time. 1890 01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:18,800 Speaker 1: It's sure it's not twelve, or sure it's not their 1891 01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:22,920 Speaker 1: team really really very sure it's static at eleven. Okay, maybe, 1892 01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:25,759 Speaker 1: but we definitely don't know if people are voting illegally 1893 01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:28,840 Speaker 1: or not. There are some cases, one very prominent or 1894 01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:32,200 Speaker 1: well reported on case from last week where someone got 1895 01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:35,880 Speaker 1: eight years for voter fraud. I believe she was in 1896 01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:39,840 Speaker 1: illegal And what the left realizes is that if you 1897 01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:46,120 Speaker 1: can establish that voter fraud is real, meaning that it's happening, 1898 01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:47,600 Speaker 1: and it's happening in numbers, that we have to be 1899 01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:50,200 Speaker 1: concerned about. And quite honestly, when you look at the 1900 01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:54,040 Speaker 1: margin of victory in Minnesota for oh, yeah, Al Frankin, 1901 01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:55,600 Speaker 1: who was on the show earlier, when he was like, oh, 1902 01:43:55,680 --> 01:44:01,439 Speaker 1: I thought, I think the president President Trump is on stable. Um, 1903 01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:04,800 Speaker 1: you have Alt Frankin on and he won over I 1904 01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:07,320 Speaker 1: think was Norm Coleman by hundreds. It was in the 1905 01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:10,439 Speaker 1: hundreds of votes. The margin was razor thin. So you 1906 01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:12,439 Speaker 1: don't have to prove a lot of vote Think about 1907 01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:13,640 Speaker 1: this now, you don't have to prove a lot of 1908 01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:16,160 Speaker 1: voter fraud for it to matter. If you can prove 1909 01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:19,040 Speaker 1: substantial numbers, certainly the tens of thousands or in the 1910 01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:21,479 Speaker 1: in the low thousands, even people would say, whoa this is, 1911 01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:23,760 Speaker 1: we need to rein this in and then you start 1912 01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:26,120 Speaker 1: to draw the next conclusion, and this is what becomes 1913 01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:29,519 Speaker 1: really damaging for the Democrats, I think is okay, So 1914 01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:32,240 Speaker 1: you haven't wanted to know about this all along. You 1915 01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:38,639 Speaker 1: obviously want as many people who are not voting legally 1916 01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,280 Speaker 1: to vote as possible because it benefits your party, because 1917 01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:43,439 Speaker 1: the Democrats are the party of the state of state 1918 01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:47,479 Speaker 1: benefits of getting free stuff that other people pay for, 1919 01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:51,599 Speaker 1: and if you're an illegal, chances are that it would 1920 01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:55,880 Speaker 1: be in your immediate financial interest, your immediate economic interest, 1921 01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:59,320 Speaker 1: to support the party that wants to give you free 1922 01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:01,599 Speaker 1: or more free stuff. Look, Republicans want to get free 1923 01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:04,360 Speaker 1: stuff too. That's all separate conversation. I'd love to get 1924 01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,160 Speaker 1: there too. We're not even talking about entitlements anymore. This 1925 01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:09,120 Speaker 1: is all we pay into entitlements. You know what you 1926 01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,000 Speaker 1: don't pay, You pay in less than you take out 1927 01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:14,439 Speaker 1: a lot of time. That's a side note. We'll get there, um. 1928 01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:21,400 Speaker 1: But on immigration, there has been this obvious switch. You 1929 01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:23,240 Speaker 1: go back and you read the New York Times editorial 1930 01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:26,880 Speaker 1: page from like I'm thinking of one editorial the top 1931 01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:30,400 Speaker 1: of my head, and they were immigration. Illegal immigration hurts 1932 01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:33,439 Speaker 1: wages in this country, hurts workers in this country, and 1933 01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:38,320 Speaker 1: is unfair to the African American community because illegals are 1934 01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:41,800 Speaker 1: disproportionately competing for jobs from the African American community. And 1935 01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:44,599 Speaker 1: that was in New York Times at the at the turn, 1936 01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, at the turn of the entry. And that 1937 01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:48,880 Speaker 1: was a New York Times not long ago, at the 1938 01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:50,160 Speaker 1: turn of the centry. Makes it's not like a long 1939 01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:53,559 Speaker 1: time ago. Somehow the Democratic Party shift. I wonder if 1940 01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:56,280 Speaker 1: the shift to the more votes the marrier, let's not 1941 01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:58,560 Speaker 1: ever see if there's a legal voting going on, and 1942 01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:01,040 Speaker 1: let's register as many people as possible, knowing that there's 1943 01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:03,400 Speaker 1: going to be mistakes made, intentional or not. I wonder 1944 01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:05,280 Speaker 1: if it has to do with who illegals will vote for. 1945 01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:07,559 Speaker 1: All Right, I gotta hit more of these immigration raids. 1946 01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm just on a I'm on fire here. I've got 1947 01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:13,920 Speaker 1: more coming, all right, Tim buck I mentioned before that 1948 01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:18,400 Speaker 1: the Washington Post was gonna have this story out about 1949 01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:22,560 Speaker 1: how Flynn was vulnerable to blackmail. This is just a 1950 01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:27,160 Speaker 1: pyle on It's it's a nothing new burger. That much 1951 01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:28,880 Speaker 1: is for sure. Man would be a nothing burger. But 1952 01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:32,040 Speaker 1: it's a nothing new burger. It's not much, not much 1953 01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:35,680 Speaker 1: to go on here. There You've got the former the 1954 01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:42,560 Speaker 1: former acting Attorney General Sally Yates. She of I'm not 1955 01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:45,160 Speaker 1: going to defend Trump's executive order, even though that's not 1956 01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:48,960 Speaker 1: my call. Fame. You know, she's in her and her 1957 01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:52,280 Speaker 1: last few hours working for the Department of Justice before 1958 01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:57,560 Speaker 1: she was fired. That's who's cited in this piece, and 1959 01:46:57,960 --> 01:47:03,320 Speaker 1: she felt that Mike Pence should know that Flynn is all. 1960 01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:06,880 Speaker 1: According to the Washington Post here their sources that Flynn 1961 01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:09,840 Speaker 1: was lying to Pence about the contents of that call 1962 01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:12,120 Speaker 1: and that she was worried that there was quote illegal activity. 1963 01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:15,519 Speaker 1: No one has ever been prosecuted under the Logan Act. 1964 01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:20,120 Speaker 1: It is of dubious constitutionality as a statute to start with. 1965 01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:22,640 Speaker 1: I do not think it would survive scrutiny. And the 1966 01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:25,280 Speaker 1: only reason it hasn't been overturned or thrown out is 1967 01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:27,800 Speaker 1: because no one ever. I think one person may have 1968 01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:30,200 Speaker 1: been prosecuted in history and it was unsuccessful. I think 1969 01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:33,480 Speaker 1: there's one case broad in it's like in a nine 1970 01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:38,840 Speaker 1: century uh So that this was quote illegal is just 1971 01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:42,559 Speaker 1: that's nonsense. It's not illegal, not any more illegal than 1972 01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:45,439 Speaker 1: any number of high profile visits to foreign countries where 1973 01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:48,400 Speaker 1: they've discussed for and I'm sorry, there's no there's no 1974 01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:51,960 Speaker 1: conviction gonna happen here, and it's an overbroad statute and 1975 01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:56,200 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. That all said. Oh, and so then 1976 01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:57,960 Speaker 1: let me just say that she said that he was 1977 01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:02,479 Speaker 1: quote potentially vulnerable to Russian black mail because of this 1978 01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:07,840 Speaker 1: phone call. That's that's that's hyped. That's not no. I'm sorry, 1979 01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:12,000 Speaker 1: that's not new information, and that is not uh, there's 1980 01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:15,720 Speaker 1: nothing here that to me says blackmail. The Russians are 1981 01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:20,360 Speaker 1: gonna blackmail Flynn by what by saying your either sell 1982 01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:24,760 Speaker 1: out your country, your career, military, you sell your Countriel 1983 01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:29,200 Speaker 1: to us, or we will tell everybody that we discussed 1984 01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:34,040 Speaker 1: the sanctions before you become very powerful. I don't know, 1985 01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:36,320 Speaker 1: I sound like Countracula now. Man, My Russian is getting 1986 01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:41,000 Speaker 1: sloppy too. But still that you're they think Mike Flynn 1987 01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:43,160 Speaker 1: is gonna sell out his country to the Russians. He's 1988 01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:47,320 Speaker 1: vulnerable to blackmail because they may say that he spoke 1989 01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:49,080 Speaker 1: to them about sanctions when he hadn't said that. I mean, 1990 01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:50,880 Speaker 1: that would be embarrassing, but I don't I don't think. 1991 01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't think Flynn is gonna sell out America. But 1992 01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:55,240 Speaker 1: that's so again. I just I thought we'd have to 1993 01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:57,400 Speaker 1: wait maybe until tomorrow morning before the story was posted, 1994 01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:00,479 Speaker 1: but it's up right now. And you got Sally of Yates, 1995 01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:03,640 Speaker 1: Acting Attorney General in the Department of Justice, who is 1996 01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:07,880 Speaker 1: a clear left wing Democrat partisan pretending to be a 1997 01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:11,519 Speaker 1: d o J lawyer. Okay, you know, came in I'm 1998 01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:14,080 Speaker 1: sure and was very happy to do all kinds of 1999 01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:16,559 Speaker 1: stuff with the Obama administration. I'm sure she loved all 2000 01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:24,240 Speaker 1: the hyperpartisan activities of the UM. You know, hyperpartisan activities 2001 01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:26,439 Speaker 1: that the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice 2002 01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:31,639 Speaker 1: has engaged engaged in under the Obama presidency. But they're 2003 01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:35,599 Speaker 1: they're saying that they're running this piece about blackmail to quote. 2004 01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:38,240 Speaker 1: Justice Department warned white House that Flynn could be vulnerable 2005 01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:45,040 Speaker 1: to Russian blackmail. I'm sorry, but that is that is 2006 01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:50,080 Speaker 1: overstating the case here. That is overstating this case. UM 2007 01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:53,519 Speaker 1: vulnerable to blackmail. I don't. I don't think so, not 2008 01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:56,320 Speaker 1: based on this. I thought there was gonna be something else. 2009 01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:59,519 Speaker 1: You know, Flynn had accepted some payments for some speeches 2010 01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:02,519 Speaker 1: and Rush Shure. Oh, the person who's allowed to get 2011 01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:05,439 Speaker 1: paid way too much money speaking Russia's Bill Clinton. I 2012 01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:08,479 Speaker 1: mean you know that's that's not corruption, that's just good 2013 01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:12,120 Speaker 1: old fashioned fun baby. But yeah, he got paid I 2014 01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:14,200 Speaker 1: think it was eight hundred thousand dollars for speech through 2015 01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:17,280 Speaker 1: either it was a Russian subsidiary company or Russian oligarch, 2016 01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:20,800 Speaker 1: one of those guys I it was. I think it 2017 01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:23,080 Speaker 1: was his most valuable speech ever, or at least close 2018 01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:25,400 Speaker 1: to it. I had to do with Russian interest. But 2019 01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:27,360 Speaker 1: you know, he just loves him. He just loves America 2020 01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:29,880 Speaker 1: and just loves world. Willst help. I mean, he's a 2021 01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:31,560 Speaker 1: good guy. At least we don't have to deal with 2022 01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:34,960 Speaker 1: him very much anymore. Uh, blackmail, I don't think so. 2023 01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:37,400 Speaker 1: I was expecting more, And remember I was, I was 2024 01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:39,840 Speaker 1: willing to say, I'm worried here. Maybe they've leaked and 2025 01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:44,400 Speaker 1: maybe they've got something. This is this is nothing. Okay, 2026 01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:47,000 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say it's nothing. This is not what they're 2027 01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:49,599 Speaker 1: setting it up to be. This is not what they're 2028 01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:53,160 Speaker 1: saying it is. Um Flynn's are it's already out there 2029 01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:56,320 Speaker 1: that he he's already apologized to pants miss let him 2030 01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:59,200 Speaker 1: about the phone call. Clearly Flynn got a little jammed 2031 01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:03,800 Speaker 1: up here. And but the other side of this is 2032 01:51:04,720 --> 01:51:07,040 Speaker 1: you've got senior d J people who have access to 2033 01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:11,320 Speaker 1: classify just like the Intel community people do, and they 2034 01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:16,360 Speaker 1: are selectively putting stuff out there. I'm sure who wants 2035 01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:18,080 Speaker 1: to take a guess as to who may have spoken 2036 01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:21,200 Speaker 1: to the press about this Flynn thing in the first place. Anybody, 2037 01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:24,600 Speaker 1: anybody wants to start placing some bets on that. So 2038 01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:31,000 Speaker 1: the unelected branch of government bureaucracy is trying to go 2039 01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:34,280 Speaker 1: after Trump and and all of his people, and including Flynn. 2040 01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:38,640 Speaker 1: It looks like they've scored at least some kind of 2041 01:51:38,680 --> 01:51:42,679 Speaker 1: a hit here on the administration by making things difficult 2042 01:51:42,760 --> 01:51:44,559 Speaker 1: for Flynn. Oh man, I wanted to go, Okay, guys, 2043 01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:47,600 Speaker 1: I promise we'll talk more about immigration. I eat that 2044 01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:49,479 Speaker 1: up and I got but I had to get together 2045 01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:51,599 Speaker 1: because it just broke. Now the story in the Washington Post. 2046 01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:55,000 Speaker 1: So I don't think this is gonna be the This 2047 01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:56,880 Speaker 1: story at least is not the end for the National 2048 01:51:56,920 --> 01:51:59,800 Speaker 1: Security Advisor in this administration. But they're gonna try to 2049 01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:02,040 Speaker 1: at this thing up tomorrow, man, that much is for sure. 2050 01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:05,519 Speaker 1: Please go to American Radio dot com slash podcast to 2051 01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:10,960 Speaker 1: listen to the show on demand for free. Uh As always, 2052 01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:13,840 Speaker 1: you can share it with friends. The best thing you 2053 01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,519 Speaker 1: can do for me if you are someone who considers 2054 01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:18,639 Speaker 1: yourself part of team Bucket. If you're listening, I certainly 2055 01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:20,639 Speaker 1: hope you do. 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