1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: So I'm here today with Aria and an Aria. She 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: lives at the Eden House over there in Kenya and 3 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: is the chair of the management board at trans Rescue 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: and has over forty years of trans rights activism. And 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: they're going to explain today a little bit of what 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: trans Rescue is, what Eden Houses, and the threats and 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: attacks that they've been facing in the last couple of 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: days here and so preaps and you could explain what 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: Eden House is. And I think I really liked in 10 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: the website where you explain the difference between like a 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: heidie hole and a haven. So if you could get 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: into that, that that would be wonderful. Sure, um uh Eden 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: House is a uh, there's a trans haven in in Kenya. 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: It's our primary mission is that we helped trans people 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: escape from dangerous places. That implies that we help them 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: go somewhere, because of course they have to have a 17 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: safe place to go too, which means we often end 18 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: up renting an apartment short term or doing something like 19 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: that while they get established in their new place. The 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: problem and of course that that was getting expensive in 21 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: Kenya where we can move a lot of people because 22 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: some areas of Kenya are quite dangerous but the major 23 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: cities are not quite so dangerous, so we move people 24 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: into the major cities. But we were trying to be 25 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: efficient and save money, and uh, we thought about making 26 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: a kind of temporary doss house or a place with 27 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: bunk beds to the ceiling and what happen. But we 28 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: realized that would still cost his money and it wouldn't 29 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: be a very positive experience or affirming experience for the 30 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: folks living in it. And we realized for that we 31 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: could instead do a trans haven. That is a place 32 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: where a person could come and if they chose never leave, 33 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: live there the rest of the life if they want. So, 34 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: when someone comes to Eden House and expect to receive 35 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: help to find some income producing activity, and as time 36 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: goes on, they will eventually be expected to contribute to 37 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: the running of the house. Our plan is we just 38 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: started a month ago, but our plan is by about 39 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: the end of the year to have the house no 40 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: longer be requiring funds from us, and then we can 41 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: do it again. Yeah, we have space freight people. When 42 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: we get up to eight and it doesn't look like 43 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: it's going to bleed us dry, we can do it again. 44 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: And we can and in the end, we end up 45 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: with something that I think many trans people in any 46 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: country would love to have, because that's uh, you know, 47 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: that's something as long as I've been around, there have 48 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: been many discussions of building such places. Yeah, it's it's 49 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: a very admirable project. And I know Gary and I 50 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: just used to be Tenacious Unicorn Ranch. I've been before, 51 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: and it's really powerful to see like how empowering those 52 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: spaces are and how they can help people. So I 53 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: can see that you set up in Kenya. Was there 54 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: a reason that you picked Kenya? It was that it 55 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: was was a very large trans community there or something 56 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: that led you to uh, frankly, in in such places, 57 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: people often have um uh there is the old queer Uh. 58 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: I know somebody who knows somebody a lot system and 59 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: people have kind of webs of trust and as a result, 60 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: where we get people coming from to ask us to 61 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: move them, it is very irregular. Uh. There are some 62 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: countries we never hear from, and we certainly know there 63 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: are queer people there. We know the conditions are bad 64 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: and would you know, and we'd be happy to move people, 65 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: but we don't have a lot of penetration. And others 66 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: like Kenya. We're in the network and people are telling 67 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: giving each other are uh contact info. UM. Also, we 68 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: have some capabilities we had built up kind of center there, 69 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: so we decided to focus on Kenya. Kenya is relatively 70 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: easy to get into as for as visas and so on, 71 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: and so UM it's a place we can send people 72 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: when they when we might have trouble getting them into 73 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: uh say Europe or the United States. Um, we can 74 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: with and so we're perfectly happy to end up with 75 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: lots of folks. Would like to make the place attractive 76 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: enough that it's also a place that we even have 77 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: people coming who aren't particularly in immediate danger. We'd be 78 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: We're working from a philosophy of abundance that we want 79 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: to grow and we have a rule of we don't 80 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: want to make a place that we wouldn't want to 81 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: live ourselves. And honestly, Eden House is a nice place. 82 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: It was the personal home of of a rather wealthy family. 83 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: It's looks nice. Sorry, would you maybe like to describe 84 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: for us at your experience at the house what it's 85 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: like and how places like this are important so that 86 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: people can understand. Maybe if you could start with how 87 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: you became aware of the Eden House and that that 88 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 1: this was an option that was available to you. Okay, 89 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: so um I met um um we got in touch 90 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: with Anne Ali this uh this year, yes, Aliceia around 91 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: February generally, if I'm not wrong, so um we if 92 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: that was before Eden was formed. So we really had 93 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: a long discussion on us moving from where we are 94 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,239 Speaker 1: were at the coast and things were really really brutal 95 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: at the coast side of Kenya, like we were going 96 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: a lot of stress, even lost to one of our friends, 97 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: and um, yeah, it wasn't really good. It was really bad. 98 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: So yeah, we had a discussion about moving to um 99 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: to Eden House and that it was a working progress. 100 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: So we took some time working on that. So eventually 101 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: it happened and so we came to Eden House and 102 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: it's a very beautiful place. I would agree with that. 103 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: Um yeah. And yeah, and also flew all the way 104 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: to hear because we were new here and there were 105 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: some things that we needed done. And yeah, we are 106 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: three of us currently in Eden House. Um I got 107 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 1: in touch with Anne and the rest of the team. 108 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: There was dooris on board. Actually she's the person who 109 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: was like you know, responsible for the Malindi team. And yeah, 110 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: the two sisters that I have like okay, they're my 111 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: sisters because we've been through a lot of help together. 112 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, um, we come all away from Malindi. Also 113 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: we are here together and so far. Um when we 114 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: got here, Um, the place it's very beautiful, but just 115 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: needed a little you know here and their decoration and 116 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 1: you know, clarifications and modifying and you know, precusuals were 117 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: by you know, putting on security lights and the security wires. Yeah, 118 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: still somethings need to be upgraded, but you know, um, 119 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: we still need to resource for a lot so that 120 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: we can have something's being done by So far, so good. 121 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: Everything is good. I'd interject that we're trying to foster 122 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: a spirit of self sufficiency and so we've been Um, 123 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: we've got everybody to make the furniture. The furniture in 124 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: the house has been made by the residents. And we're 125 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: starting some various sort of fundraising, you know, our income activities. 126 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: We're we've made a chicken coop and we're in the 127 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: process of getting chickens, getting chickens and and uh sewing machine. 128 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: And one of our residents is a talented artists we're 129 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: going to set her up to have a place to 130 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: sell her artwork. Ah, that's the kind of things we're doing, 131 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: thank you, um all. Yeah, I'm really curious kind of 132 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: on a day to day basis, what are the things 133 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: that you and the other people who are at the 134 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: Eden House do in order to like protect yourself, like 135 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: when you're going about town, when you're doing errands. Um, 136 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: is there like a degree of operational security that you 137 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: have to keep in mind? Yeah, Actually, we have a 138 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: rule whereby we don't go anywhere without letting each other know, 139 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: especially if we're going to a long distance UM. Putting 140 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: in mind, we are very new into this area, so 141 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: we don't know a lot of places. So currently we 142 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: are just in the house trying to get to understand 143 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: a few things. Actually we've been doing um um the 144 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: repairing we have. We have a chicken coope at the back. 145 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: It's kind of a small um as a small place 146 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: whereby we needed to fix some things. So we've been 147 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: working on that so that we have the places ready 148 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: for the chicken when they're ready to come in. And 149 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: also for me have been um going around to see 150 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: at least allocate some few places where by you know, 151 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: we can feel safe, like the hospitals. I've been trying 152 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: to get in touch with people like around here. I 153 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: haven't been easy, but at least now I can say 154 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: I can go to an hospital that at least it's 155 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: kind of familiar with me. Um. Yeah. We also have 156 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: a place where we buy what are these things that 157 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: the house supplies and all that stuff. We're really trying 158 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: as much as possible to like minimize our moving around 159 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: from places to places to draw attention. So we're just 160 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: trying to go with time and see how people will 161 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: accept us existing to these community. So we don't want 162 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: to bring any attentions whereby people who start asking questions 163 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: like you know, what's happening there? What's not happening there? Yeah? Yeah, 164 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: I noticed as well that the house you to belong 165 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: to a politician. It's right, so I has some measures 166 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: of external phasicals and purity as well, Yeah, which is good. 167 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: Maybe we can talk about I know, Kenya is a 168 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: big country and it differs vastly depending on where you 169 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: are and who you're with. How is the climate towards 170 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: trans folks. I haven't been in Kenya for probably ten 171 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: fifteen years. How how is the climate towards trans people, 172 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: have things. Have it become like a big topic like 173 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: a culture war thing recently or is it sort of 174 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: can you explain, but I guess what it's like. You're saying, 175 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: it seems like it can be a risk just to 176 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: go outside, which is pretty sad. Yeah, yeah, it is. 177 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: That is to go outside, you know, um here and Kenya, 178 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: um in different sites of kind of like at the 179 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: cost Okay, taking example, at the cost side from where 180 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: I come from, it's, um, it's really bad for the 181 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: trans community because now they're they're very transphobic and homophobic people, 182 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: Like most of the transphobic and homophobic people come at 183 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: the coast side, because um, these are people that tend 184 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: to keep their culture and religious like you know, more 185 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: of more of a key thing in in someone's life, 186 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: more of like they use they use the Quran and 187 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: the Bible to presus to crititize the trans people and 188 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: the gay community. So being in that area, it's very 189 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: very bad and very very risky for trans community. Comparing 190 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: to the other side of Kenya, I wouldn't say it's 191 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: not risky, but um, their level of understanding of the 192 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: trans community and the gay community it's um, it's more 193 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: of an it's more of an away that they're kind 194 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: of confused, not true awhere to understand. But it depends 195 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: with also the air that you are, you might find 196 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: you end up. For example, now we're eating houses like 197 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: for the few for the man that we've been here. 198 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: The feedback that I can say I have from the 199 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: community around here is they're like more of people that 200 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: are come and more of people who are you are 201 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: more of used to their own personal things. They don't like, 202 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: you know, put their nose into the to the things 203 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: that they're not involved with, if you get what I mean. UM, 204 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: In other towns um having new people, people who like 205 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: you want to know why they're there and do you 206 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: know all that stuff. But in this town that we have, 207 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: we are in eating house. It's it's kind of safe 208 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: in a way that people are not putting their nose 209 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: in into us, like more of wanting to know about 210 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: us rather than they're welcoming us. Moreover, you know, the 211 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: landlord is kind of friendly. I would say that the 212 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: cubander cuband it's more of a small grocery shops. So 213 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: the cubanders around here at the small grocersy show that 214 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: the people who are selling the you know, the groceries 215 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: and all that stuff, they're friendly. I haven't. Um, I 216 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: haven't in card or you know, engaged or seeing any 217 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: transphobic or homophobic reaction towards demand that I've been here. 218 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: Most of the people here are much of welcoming, like 219 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: I would say that, and uh, yeah, it's really different 220 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: from where I come from. Trust me, from the town 221 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: that I come from. You can't walk with makeup or 222 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: with anything that makes you look garish or anything that 223 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: makes you look resemble to a transgender or maybe gay 224 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: or something. It will be a bad thing for you 225 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: in the day. Yeah, a little bit of the geography 226 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: of Kenya. Remember that uh on tenuous coast up in 227 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: the north. Uh is the border with small Yea and Um, 228 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: so the culture natural and mixes over the order and um. 229 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: This is also an area where lots of folks are 230 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: coming over because of the political instability and Somalia, and 231 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: it's an area of al Shabab terrorist activity. So so 232 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: that makes particularly the north part of the coast rather 233 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: dangerous place. Yeah, just if people are interested, I know, 234 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: like the State Department sort of has it do not 235 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: travel like north of Lama pretty much. So like people 236 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: can sit on the map, but ageah, there are certain 237 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: areas where risk would be higher. And fortunately talking of that, 238 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: like it it hasn't. There have been some attacks, right 239 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: threats against edenhouse in the last couple of days. So 240 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: if either of you would like to explain exactly what 241 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: happened as far as you're comfortable, I think that would 242 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: be great. Yeah, let me explain, because I think I'm 243 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: the right passaic in that. So, um there, there, there there, Okay, 244 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: this happened when amalz around here. Actually we had an 245 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: attack and one of the windows people people breaked into 246 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: their house, not inside the house, but inside the compound 247 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: and they tried getting in the house. But yeah, thank 248 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: god the place has secured doors and windows. But they 249 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: took off one of the glass from the window and 250 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: they tried to like they had a stick that was 251 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: was was holding um yeah, a magnet on the end. 252 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: So they were trying to use the stick with the 253 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: magnet to pull out the keys so that they can 254 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: have and clear entrance into the house. But thank god, 255 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: we had removed the keys to where we used to 256 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: we normally used to put and kept it to somewhere else. 257 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: So the keys that we are aware they were targeting, 258 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: there were only the keys to the meter box and 259 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: the fridge, so they took those and yeah, I presume 260 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: they later realized that they wouldn't go through with those 261 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: because we're not the right kids. So the next thing, 262 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: we wake up in the morning, the magnet was down 263 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: on the floor and we noticed that the window had 264 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: the piece of glass missing. So that was the first 265 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: incident that happened. So we reported that to um, to 266 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: the to the landlord. And previous day before that happened, 267 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: those neighborhood came by and they said that someone tried 268 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: to break into their apartment and they were kind of 269 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: curious because they never knew if people moved into this 270 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: house or they just wanted to check in what was 271 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: going on. And we can we kind of get into like, 272 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: you know, know each other, and that they kind of 273 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: gave us a warning and that's why we removed the kids. 274 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: And the day when they came, they couldn't get in. 275 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, after I left, now this is a recent incident. 276 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: That then then the next they came back and found 277 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: a couple of broken windows in the morning, like they 278 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: tried to price some windows out and ended up breaking 279 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: the glass and gave up. But but yeah, that's so. 280 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: At the time, I think we all just thought of 281 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: this as ordinary, you know, theft activity. But it's later incident, 282 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: it's pretty unclear, but this maybe more targeted attack. Yeah, 283 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: and perhaps it's silly of me to even ask this, 284 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: but could you speak of it on what kind of 285 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: help you can expect from law enforcement? If any, um, 286 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: I would say, if any, I would say, like, you 287 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: see the place where we are staying, from the law enforcement, 288 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,239 Speaker 1: I would expect that they put some like you know, 289 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: the they have a name that they put that that 290 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: that the lights that normally the government's supposed to supply, 291 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: like you know, the what's what did they call that? 292 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,719 Speaker 1: These lights they normally have to support from Yes, street lights. 293 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: So the place you're staying, there's no street lights. So 294 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: if if if, if if a police was to ask 295 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: me or you know, any security measures that were to 296 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: be put, like I would say that they put the 297 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: street lights. Those would help at least there will be 298 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: more lights for like you know, that should scare people away, 299 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: even if those people are thieves or anything. You see, So, yeah, 300 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: that was That's what I would say, Okay, yeah, and 301 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: then the two people were hurt in the most recent 302 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: sort of activate. Yes, yes, this was the day before yesterday. Okay, 303 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 1: are they doing okay, yeah, they're fine actually, and one 304 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: of them I help myself, yes, and one of them 305 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: I have my arm injured, but not really deep. The 306 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: other one is asleep. She had a really bad injured 307 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: back stabbed and you know at the arm also catched 308 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: uh eight teachers at the back really bad. Yeah. Sorry, yeah, 309 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: that's not good at all. Okay, so that that's not great. 310 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: Have you since we attack is like an ongoing aggression 311 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: against you, And it seems like someone's targeting the in house, right, um, 312 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: if you ask me, I would say it's more of 313 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: targeting the eating house, because, um, I don't understand why 314 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: we would only be the only person, like the only 315 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: people experiencing the same, the same incident over and over 316 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: like the next the next houses. They don't complain in 317 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: such incidents like you know, like this guy literally if um, 318 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: I'm just picturing the fact that we had to go 319 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: out and you know, turn on the machine and we 320 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: saw this guy and he just bumped into us with 321 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: a knife. And catching us all. So I'm just picturing 322 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: if this guy was waiting for, like I'm just seeing it, 323 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: he was waiting for more people to come so that 324 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: they can attack coming inside the house. Why was even 325 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: standing there in the first place? Because we found him 326 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: there and he was like he came through me because 327 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,239 Speaker 1: I was the one who was in the front. So 328 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: I just keep asking myself, like, why was he standing there? 329 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: What was he waiting for? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, And I 330 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: point out to get there. To get there, he had 331 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: to climb a high stone wall top with razor wire 332 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: and get into position without triggering the motion detectors. Yeah, 333 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: which is, you know, not impossible to do, but it was. 334 00:21:44,119 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: But they keep coming back. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm sure 335 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: people listening will be upset by this. Is there a 336 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: way that people can like express the solidarity or support 337 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: you financially? Yes, we need funds to keep running the house, 338 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: and in fact, the guy escaped through a hole that 339 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: was left only because we ran out of razor wire. 340 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: We need funds to keep the project going. We need 341 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: funds to also to support our primary work. We're continuing 342 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: to get people out of places like Saudi Arabia. We 343 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: have people we have people who are kind of who 344 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: are in mid travel right now, and we have other 345 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: people in the high de holes in dangerous countries, and 346 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: we want to move all those people, and we'd like 347 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: to start right now. We're not even taking new folks 348 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: on because we just have such a backlog. Will very 349 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: much like to fix that situation. UM, So for all 350 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: these reasons you know, we're doing. We're happy with what 351 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: we're doing, but but we do need funds at the moment. 352 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: Let's get into that a little bit. You're the we 353 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: here is trans Rescue, right, yeah, yes, Trans Rescue is 354 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: a nonprofit and you're based in Europe and you move 355 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: trans people out of dangerous situations. That's correct. We're based 356 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: in Um, we're based in the Netherlands. We're a a sticking, 357 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: which is the in the US that would be a 358 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: five oh one C three. We're in a n B 359 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: I qualified sticking, which basically is a five O one 360 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: C three. Okay, And you were telling us before we 361 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: started the call that you think it costs you about 362 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: twenty euros to move each person. Is that right? Yeah? 363 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: That's the average. Um. The average is probably slightly going 364 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: down because of course to move somebody into eden House 365 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: from the coast might be as cheap as uh eighty 366 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: bucks to send them a ticket and then a few 367 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: hundred dollars of settling them in eden House. On the 368 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: other hand, getting people out of Saudi oftentimes means not 369 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: only flying of them, but sometimes flying our own personnel 370 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: in and out on um often kind of crazy roots. 371 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: So a person might find themselves a long way from 372 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: either Saudi or where they're finally going to end up. 373 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: And as a result, and then so yeah, we end 374 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: up having to spend a lot on plane tickets and 375 00:24:53,200 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: then we also sometimes this takes months, we play paperwork games. Um, 376 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: we are not people smugglers, but but we certainly are 377 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: helping people get to a country where they can actually 378 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: claim asylum for the most part, which means, um, you know, 379 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: and successfully claim asylum, and that often means manipulating edge 380 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: cases in the international travel system. Yeah, yeah, that makes 381 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: a lot of sense. I can see whether would be 382 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: expensive and complicated. Yes, so it's great that people can 383 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: donate to you. That is there anything like I noticed 384 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: you were asking before for some mutual aid help with 385 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,479 Speaker 1: your pr Is that something you still need? Look at 386 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: the things people can do. Maybe they don't have the 387 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: means today. We were a small organization, We're not very large, 388 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: and we actually are just cranking up our pr operation. 389 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: Um we could use a press list, we could use 390 00:25:53,920 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: we could also use amplification from organizations with more kind 391 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: of online cloud. We're basically a little group of people 392 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: and for two years we operated as an informal group 393 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: of of activists. We realized that was probably not ideal 394 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: for this very serious work we're doing, and so last 395 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: December we reorganized as a proper sticting But yeah, help 396 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: with boosting our signal at the moment would be very useful. 397 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: Anyone who can, you know, can spread the word of 398 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: what's happened at you now, so we would be very 399 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: much appreciative. Yeah, well we can definitely do that. Hopefully 400 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: effects come to It's just so people can find you. 401 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: It's Trans under School Rescue on Twitter, it's Trans Underscore 402 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: Rescue on trigs, or it's trans Rescued or dot org 403 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: on the web. I will share that fundraise. I think, 404 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: when when this comes out, are you how things been 405 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: for you the last couple of days? Like I must 406 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: be pretty rough, I imagine not not feeling safe at 407 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: the house. Yeah. Actually, actually the advice that we got 408 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: from the landlord and the neighbor. There's a neighbor here, 409 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: a lady. She came by and I have a number. 410 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: Called her the day we had the incident, and she 411 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: came in the morning when they had a talk. So 412 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: she suggested that we shouldn't be going out late night 413 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: and by time we make sure that all the doors 414 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: are locked and yes, and stay safe inside in case 415 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: of anything. She asked me to call her, and also 416 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: the landlord asked me if in case of anything, if 417 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: I hear any movement or any suspicious thing happening outside 418 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: the gates, I just give them a call. It's good. 419 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 1: It's good that people are sticking up here in your communite. 420 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: Is really good to hear. Yeah, really good. Yeah, yeah, 421 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: we appreciate that. And on their behalf, what y'all are 422 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: doing is very important and more. You know, sorry that 423 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: you're encountering this kind of resistance, but we hope we 424 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: can help at least get the message out about what 425 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: you were doing. It. Unless appreciate it. Thank you, it's 426 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: much appreciated. Um. I regret that we spent most of 427 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: the time on security I'm I'm more I'm excited about 428 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: uh many of the positive things we're doing. We're you know, 429 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: we're trying to set up, uh a place where trans 430 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: people can live their lives and thrive and and have 431 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: you know, normal lives. Uh. Yeah, let's talk about that. 432 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: Let's talk about like, how many people do you have 433 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: at the eating house right now? If you're comfortable sharing that? Sure, 434 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: we just opened, so we've got three people. We've got 435 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: one more person who UM went back to settle kind 436 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: of settle his affairs and we'll be moving in UM 437 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: and we have of UM and we've got space for 438 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: eight at the moment um. We've had a couple of 439 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: other people in choir but but haven't like aren't there yet. 440 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: We're kind of excited by the space we've got because 441 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: there's actually room around us to grow. So we're expecting 442 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: to get to get bigger. Um. Yeah, I hope you do. 443 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: And how many people have trying to rescue been able 444 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,479 Speaker 1: to help, like as an organization overall one way or 445 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: the other, We've we've moved about two dozen people. Of that, 446 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: roughly a half have been the serious kind of get 447 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: people out of Saudi Arabia type moves. The others have 448 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: been folks that we helped in sort of less dramatic ways. Okay, yeah, 449 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: that's a it's a very meaningful contribution to a lot 450 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,719 Speaker 1: of people's lives. That is great. Yeah, I get you know, 451 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: it's great. Uh, each one person lives locally, and it's 452 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: great to kind of occasionally have him over for dinner 453 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: or you know, I know that we got him out. Yeah, 454 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: that must be really nice. And I think, yeah, it's 455 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: important not to just center like hatred but also about success. Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, 456 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: I love that. And it's cool that, like you have 457 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: plans to grow. I've seen that you have agricultural areas around, 458 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: so you're thinking of like growing some food around the house. Actually, 459 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: we have brought some fools. We have some vegetables like spinach, cabbage, tomatoes, 460 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: green paper. Yes, did they did? The gardens survived the flood? 461 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: Uh we actually I was about to tell you that. 462 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: Actually when the water was coming in the old old 463 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: the spinach went and lied down, and we were kind 464 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: of worried. But when it stopped, when the water stopped 465 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: flowing down, the sound came out. They kind of started 466 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: going straight, So I was much worried about that. But 467 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of freaking out because they all went down 468 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: and we were like, they did we have a drainage 469 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: problem in front of the house and the recently there 470 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: was a trrential rain. Things I did is hard to 471 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: kill things I did not know about Kenya. It hails there, 472 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I did not expect. I did not like 473 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: sort of imagine hail, but but it hailed several times 474 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: while I was there and everybody was cold. Yeah, while 475 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: I was walking around the T shirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 476 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: I can answer the best weather and Kenya for sure. Yeah, 477 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: And looking at these pictures, it is great to see 478 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: you guys are making your own furniture and doing all 479 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: these things and really enjoying your time there as well 480 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: as obviously we don't want to just focus on the threat. 481 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: So hopefully you can go back to that. Hopefully people 482 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: can support you. Are is anywhere online people can find you. 483 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: Do you have a Instagram or Twitter or anything like that. Yeah, 484 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: I do have a Treta account. My tutor handle is 485 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: at rams hyphen aria. How do you can you spell 486 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: that out for us? At MS? Okay, then high fen 487 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: lower hyphen underscore, Yeah, yeah, underscore a then are I guess? Okay? Great? Yeah, 488 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: and it's for yourself? And is it if you just 489 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: trans Rescue it's there a personal one. Anything else you'd 490 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: like to my mail if someone wants to contact me, 491 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: is Annie A N N I E at trans Rescue 492 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: dot org. Okay, yeah, hopefully. And we have a contact 493 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: form on the website as well if people are interested 494 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: in talking with us. Yeah, okay great. Is there anything 495 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: else you'd like to get to before we finish up here? Yes? 496 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: At on Fridays we have a m we have office hours. 497 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: So if you're in a country like the UK or 498 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: the US and you would just like some advice or 499 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: to explore your options, that's another service we offer is that, Well, 500 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: are happy to talk with you on video about that. 501 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: When would those be there? It's six pm Central European summertime, okay, 502 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: which I think works out to midday in the US 503 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: some parts of the US. And your fingers primarily in English. Uh, 504 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: those are primarily in English. If you speak Arabic and 505 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: or Farsi or Urdu, contact us. We can arrange to 506 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: have somebody who speaks those languages talk with you. We 507 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: maintain a telegram group trans rescue and if you get 508 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: on there you can use machine translation and talk with 509 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: us very well. And we have Arabic speakers the Mama 510 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: or that amazing. Yeah, hopefully people can take advount to 511 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: that if they need it. Thank you so much for 512 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: your time, Like our platform is here for you. If 513 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: you want to share anything else, If anything else happens, 514 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: please let us know. And we really appreciate you taking 515 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: the time. Are you hopefully thank you yeah, thank you, 516 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Al Right, Okay, goodbye everyone, thank 517 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: you bye, good very much. Thank you. It could Happen 518 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: here as a production of cool Zone Media. For more 519 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: podcasts from cool Zone Media, visit our website cool zone 520 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: media dot com or check us out on the I 521 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. 522 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: You can find sources for It Could Happen Here, updated 523 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: monthly at cool zone Media dot com slash sources. Thanks 524 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 1: for listening.