WEBVTT - Thinking Sideways: Flight MH370 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:16.560 Thinking Sideways. I don't I'm not stories of things. We 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:27.960 simply don't know the answer to breaking news in the 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:32.120 disappearance of Malaysia Air flights a glimmer of hope as 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.120 the Malaysian Prime Minister announced their press conference this afternoon 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:37.400 that he has asked the crack investigators of the well 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:41.600 known internet podcast Thinking Sideways to assist in the search. A. 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:44.400 Hi there, let's just Thinking Sideways and I am Joe, 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:51.120 assisted by and Steve. Yeah, I feel like I was yelling. Sorry. 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:54.720 So usually we taught we sort of tackle really ancient 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:58.120 mysteries that I've been around for decades, if not centuries 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:01.040 or even millennia, and of course we always solve them. 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:03.600 But this week we thought we'd do something a little 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:06.880 more topical. And you know what I'm talking about, Malaysia 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:10.720 Air Flight three seventy. That's right, We're gonna tackle this one. 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:12.520 We're gonna find those people and we're gonna bring them 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:19.120 back alive. Right yeah, right, okay, So let's launch right 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.399 into this. I mean, and I know that everybody who's 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:25.240 listening or have been hearing nothing but Flight three seventy 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:26.480 for the past week. So I'm not going to go 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:30.880 over all the little details, but I'll summarize just real quickly. 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.280 The flight took off from Cola up Or headed north 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:39.280 over the Malaysian Peninsula towards Beijing. I was supposed to 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.080 be about a five hour fly and initial reports from 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:44.360 the Malaysian government where that the a CARS, which is 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:47.520 the aircraft communications, addressing and reporting system they've been calling 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:50.400 the transponder, right, Yeah, well there's some of them mixed up, 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:52.880 the transponders, like because there's there's a CARS, but there's 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:58.240 also a transponder. Is something else that's a communication system? Yeah, yeah, 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:02.200 already I'm wrong, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the transponder is there. 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:04.400 It's just basically like kind of an echo thing if 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.160 you get, if you get it makes me more visible 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:10.360 to radar. And so yeah, basically what it does if 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:12.240 you get, if you get painted by radar, then it 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.200 sends a reply and so it makes you a lot 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:18.959 more visible to that radar. So okay, So anyway, a 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.520 car is apparently a CARS did stop communicating at some 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:24.880 point right about when they were crossing the coast, the 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:29.360 coastline into the ocean. Uh, and then somewhat after that 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.440 the transponder was shut off and that, and that it 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.320 wasn't a key spot because it was in the boundary 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:38.560 between Malaysian air traffic Control and Vietnamese air traffic control, 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.240 so kind of in that no man's land up. Oh so, 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:44.560 like after they had stopped communicating with Malaysia before they 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:51.160 had to start communicating with Vietnam, they shut it off. Yeah, well, 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.800 akar Acar stopped earlier, and then the transponder was shut off, 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:59.200 like right between Malaysia and Vietnam air traffic control. But 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:03.160 it turns out it ours was not entirely shut off. 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.400 They said that it was completely shut off, but apparently 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:08.600 it was still working because you've been hearing those stories 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:13.519 about about how the engines were pinging for hours afterwards. Yeah. Yeah, 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:15.880 apparently that that all that stuff goes to the a 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:18.079 car system. There's a there's an antenna and all this, 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.079 all that all that kind of stuff goes to a car. 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.360 So apparently it was shut off. In terms of communications. 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:27.440 They stopped receiving any text messages or other communication from 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.520 the people on the plane, but they were still and 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.720 and and and also that the engine stuff. But the 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:38.600 system itself is programmed to every half hour paying the satellite. Yeah. 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:40.640 So the way I've heard it described as like a 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.840 cell phone kind of right, the cell phone was turned off, 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.800 but cell phones still send out a little like hey 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:50.680 I'm here. Yeah, Hey I'm here. Yeah exactly, yeah, well 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.000 here yeah, and the context of the a car system 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.480 is called a handshake. Right. So they turned off the 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:59.520 like active part of this communication system. But that but 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:02.920 it's a little built in part still Still it wasn't 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.400 totally disabled system. Yeah, it's not like somebody like tore 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:11.280 it off. Brain fairly still attached and functioning and receiving energy, 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.200 I guess. Yeah. And so uh yeah, of course I 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.799 read a Ruyter's interview with six pilots who have experience 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.520 with the seven seventy seven, and they said that completely 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.120 disabled it would have required opening a hatch in the 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:25.600 floor of the plane, climbing down into a little room, uh, 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.920 and pulling a fuse. So not just like flipping a switch. No, 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:31.880 flipping a switch probably shuts off the communication bar but 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.320 actually but but so yeah, so it was still pulling 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:37.720 out little beeps and which allowed them to narrow the 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:40.080 search down to a very tiny field of like, you know, 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:45.479 millions of square miles. So and of course, yeah, so anyway, 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.719 let me real quick like, so the plane headed southwest 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.560 back across the Malaysian Peninsula, and at the time of 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:56.120 this of this course change, halfway between Malaysian and Vietnam, 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.240 the plane did go to take a big excursion to 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:03.320 fort thousands feet, which is beyond the operating envelope at 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:05.039 the airplane, I was to say, what are they normally 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:09.760 operated about normally? Now, cruising altitude for these is about 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:14.080 thirty five thousand feet and uh, and I think the 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:18.679 max recommended altitude for these is about forty two forty 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:26.440 three thousand feet tolerance. Yeah, so they had been like yeah, 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.520 so well, I don't know if it was rolling. It 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:30.440 did at least once it went up way high and 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.760 then dropped pretty low twenty three thousand feet, which is 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.040 below where they're supposed to be and it's about thirty 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:39.000 five ft And can you just remind me quickly what 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:43.040 about what time did the flight take off? Like what 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.080 time are we talking here? Did they leave in the 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.000 middle of the night. It was a red eye. It 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:49.560 was a red eye flight, so it was dark out. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:53.200 It was dark when they left, it was dark and 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.920 when the everything got shut off it was still dark. 0:05:56.120 --> 0:06:00.240 So uh, after after bouncing up and down and every thing, 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.480 it turned southwest, went across the Mala Pa Nizula, wound 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:07.400 up in the Malacca Straits. Then I know that place again, 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:12.240 I know. And then it turned northwest and it was 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:15.200 tracked for a while that by a military radar and 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:19.280 eventually left radar range. And so after that, the only 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.520 subsequent track it was done via the beeps it was 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:24.800 getting from the ACAR system. And so as you all know, 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:26.800 you've all seen the maps, I'm sure. So there's a 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.039 big line that goes all the way from northern Thailand 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.400 all the way to Kazakhstan, and there's another one that 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.680 goes southwest all the way to like Diego, Garcia or 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.320 somewhere around. And I was gonna say, is I found 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:41.720 a really great uh image or a map showing the 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:45.520 radius of how far it could have gone? And I 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.560 know that that will put that on the website, because 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.160 it really was you here, Okay, well it can go 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:52.920 for hours, but how far can it really go? Was 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.880 it the one that was captioned? Researchers say that Malaysian 0:06:55.920 --> 0:07:01.039 air flight is probably somewhere on Earth. I feel like 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.680 quite a bit accurate description of where people think it 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:08.520 might be that the yeah or something. It's probably on Earth. 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:12.680 But it is amazing how far the stinken planes can go. Yeah, 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:14.600 I mean it technically could have gone all the way 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.960 to Kazakhstan in one direction. It could have almost made 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:21.560 it to Australia in the other directions. So it's that's 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.960 a huge area and I have to search. Yeah, and 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.520 a lot of it is water, yeah, probably, and water 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.560 has there's currents and winds and everything blow on your 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.680 wreckage all over the place. So the longer ago, so 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:34.440 harder it's going to be to find this. But it 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.760 did crash in the ocean. It had what two and 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.760 thirty nine people on it including the crew. Yeah, so yeah, 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:43.400 seven passengers and so it was not it was not 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:47.080 fully loaded, but still it wasn't empty. It wasn't jam pack, 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.080 but it was far from empty. And this is a 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:53.800 ABO seven and seven seven seventy seven er, which is 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:57.440 the extended range. Oh god, it's okay. I was That 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.800 explains that I kept seeing it, but I didn't know 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:03.160 what the name meant. Those extra bit of characters and 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.640 correct me if I'm wrong, But aren't those like some 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:10.160 of the most reliable planes out there right now, Like 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.800 they've never suffered a catastrophic failure before ever or something 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:17.520 like that. I think I read they've never crashed ever. Yeah, well, 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:19.520 there was that little thing in San Francisco that was 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:22.480 remember that a year a year a big crash in 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.119 San Francisco, and that was pilot area. That was pilot area. 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.360 You can't let the plane for that. But like, like 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.320 as far as the like actual plane itself goes, they 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:34.120 were saying, this is literally the most reliable plane out 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.280 there right now. So the fact that you know me 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.800 that it's people are saying, well, maybe it's you know, electrical, 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.320 maybe it was like a plane error, maybe the plane crash, 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.160 it fell out of the sky. People were kind of saying, 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:51.760 it seems unlikely given that it's never happened before. But again, right, 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.520 there's always first time for everything. Absolutely there is, you know, 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.040 and you know, there's there's a lot of theories out there. 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:58.920 I'll jump ahead a head of myself a little bit, 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:00.520 and one of the theories is that there was a 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.480 catastrophic decompression of the plane because they're hit by a meteor. 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:12.080 A meteor. Yeah, we're jumping right into crazy. Yeah. Yeah, 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.800 so so anyway, but but the last pin was that 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.200 was received from the A car system was at eleven am, 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:22.360 so that is like eight hours. That's like seven hours, 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.880 seven seven and a a half hours after they went. So yeah, 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:28.640 they were flying for a long time, which makes me 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.120 wonder if maybe they had more gas than they think, 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.320 because they were they had enough gas for a five 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:38.120 hour flight to Beijing that's about nautical miles. I think 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.920 I read that it had enough gas for eight hours 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.760 of flight because I think that they're supposed to carry 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.800 extra exactly. I mean, you don't want a full tank 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:48.480 because it's a lot of way to carry around. So 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.760 you also don't want you want enough to get you there, 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.080 and you want to you want to put a little 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.160 bit extra for headwind and that kind of thing. They 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.280 put a little extra in for diversion and a little 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:00.280 maybe a little safety cushion. After that, Well, you won't 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:04.040 still be landing on an empty tank. Yeah, well there 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.400 was there was an instance here in Portland some years 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:09.200 back where plane ran out of gas over PDX. Yeah. 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.920 I don't know if you remember hearing about that. Yeah, 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:16.360 it was like they were they weren't a holding pattern 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:19.000 over the airport, and I can't The reason was is 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:20.840 it his his some light had come on in his 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.640 cockpit that that indicated his his landing gear wasn't down 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:27.320 unlocked the way it should be. So he was flying 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:29.160 around and they were trying to figure it out, and 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.520 meantime he ran out of gas and crashed it in 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.680 a Portland neighborhood. Luckily managed to hit a vacant lot 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:36.520 and not too many people got killed. How long ago 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:40.240 was this? It was years ago, like seven or eight years, 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:46.920 would say, at least. Probably it's an old it'sn't old, Okay, 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.360 a long time ago got it, but it's been speaking 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:52.880 of but anyway, speaking of fuel, you know, there's there's 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.240 a lot of theories out there, of course that this 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:58.600 is some sort of conspiracy to hijack the plane and 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.559 take the plane. And so as far as the fuel 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.240 that was on the plane, um, you know, you don't 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.880 really know how much got put into it because of 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:09.720 somebody in the ground crew was in on the whole thing, 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:12.160 then he could have actually put quite a bit more 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:15.120 fuel in there. And so how do you know how 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:19.280 much is like capacity like if it had been like 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:22.960 fall up, how much fly time would it have had 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:27.720 um in terms of I'm not sure about time because 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.880 that depends on your speed. But the max range of 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:35.720 the e R is seventies seven hundred nautical miles, which 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.880 is like fourteen thou some kilometers something like that, which 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:42.199 is like, yeah, I mean like just like an average speed, 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.120 that'll get you a long way. So probably from from 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:46.959 where they were at that I imagine that would get 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:48.439 you to Europe. It will certainly get you if you 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.240 wanted to go to kazakh Stan or Pakistan, and will 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:54.160 get you there easy. Yeah, it doesn't look to it. 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:55.839 It seems to me that based on the field that 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.760 they had, if that's accurate, they didn't quite have enough 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.000 to get them to Kasakh Stand or wherever there's some 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:04.000 people are claiming they might be. But at the same time, 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.080 if you look at those arrows and the fact that 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:09.240 they were getting pain from that position at the eleven 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:12.160 in the morning, well they were almost there, so maybe 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:16.520 they did. Maybe they made it, I don't know what. 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.520 So now now that we've got all the sort of 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:22.480 basics down there, time to time to launch into the 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:25.600 crazy theories. And they're not all crazy. Some of them 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:29.760 are really rational pretty good, and some of them are 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.120 a little out there, but you know, but you know, 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:35.400 I've I've actually not included some of the most loneist ones. 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:43.000 But don't worry, alright. So I divided the theories into 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.640 into two categories. One is how, the other is why. 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.880 So if you want to know, how did this happen? 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:53.000 And why did it happen? Okay, So how so how 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:57.280 did this thing disappear without a trace? Again, we've all 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.559 seen the maps that indicate these arcs going northwest and 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.760 also going southwest over the ocean. But since it was 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:08.120 already headed northwest, I would surmise that it probably continued 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.480 to go northwest. And so but if it continued to 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.440 go northwest, it was it was going over all kinds 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:18.240 of countries, a lot of countries airspace, like including China 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.600 and places like that that are kind of touchy about 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:24.800 their airspace. So how did ebate all these military radars 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:28.319 of all these countries that it flew over? Okay, So 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:31.559 theory number one, it didn't evade them across Chinese airspace 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.720 and they shut them down. Well, and yeah, yeah, and 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:36.559 now they're keeping quiet about it because there's kind of 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.679 an embarrassing faux pas. I was talking to somebody before 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:43.640 this about this, you know theory, and they said, yeah, 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:48.040 but wouldn't somebody report that, like from China? And I thought, 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.840 I feel like China is the perfect place to shoot 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.800 somebody down there, right, there's a lot of open space. 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.960 I just listened to something about how China is actually 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:00.200 trying to relocate most of their farmers into urban area. Ye. 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.960 So there's like a lot of kind of rural areas 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:08.920 that are just abandoned with no old people. Yeah. China's 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:10.720 like most countries around the world to most of the 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.080 population is actually close to the coast. And this would 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:14.800 be as far away from the Chinese coast as you 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.520 can imagine the desert out there. Yeah, so it would 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.920 be kind of a good place to shoot down So anyway, 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:21.880 and then China, of course is what covering this up, 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:25.200 because they were like, oh, oops, yeah, exactly, and so 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:27.880 they and and and so. First thing that happens, the 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.840 pilot comes back, so they shoot him because he might talk. 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.440 So and then they sent about a brigadi of soldiers 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.600 up there to clean up the mass and sanitize the side, 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:37.360 and of course they shoot them and put them in 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.560 a mass grave, and then of course the other Brigadi 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:42.280 soldiers that had to dig the mass grade to bury 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.280 then they are they all have to be shot too. 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:48.560 But eventually, you know, eventually you get far enough down 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:52.000 the l Yeah. Yeah, so that's a possibility. I'm not 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.880 I don't totally give that a lot of credence myself. 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:56.680 It does seem like somebody would have come forward and 0:14:56.720 --> 0:15:00.280 says something by now that pretty pretty big stretch. Yeah 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:01.560 it is. And also I don't know if you guys 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:03.680 have noticed a Chinese or kind of like the Russians 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:07.560 and that they don't really care about world opinion very often. 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:10.480 It would have been very easy for them to say 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.200 they weren't responding to us, and we thought it was 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:17.600 a danger, so we shot them down. Sorry, everyone, it's 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:19.680 unknown aircraft and we thought it could have been a 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.720 nuclear bomber, god knows what, you know. Definitely not like 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:27.360 a good defense. But I gotta tell you one thing, 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:30.520 if if if an unidentified Boeing seven seventy seven shows 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:33.440 up outside like say Tel Aviv or Manhattan anytime in 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:35.040 the next week or two, it's going to get shot down. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:43.480 Yeah yeah, yeah, alright, So another theory is that innovated 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.960 radar because it flew in the shadow of another airliner. 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:50.240 Oh I really like this. Yeah, it's it's a very 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:53.440 credible theory. So a blogger who's in the aviation his 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:58.160 name is Keith Ledgerwood. He matched up MH three seventies 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.560 course to another flight another having seventy seven by the way, 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.560 which is Singapore Air flight sixty eight, which is a 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:08.320 route from Singapore to Barcelona, and it takes a route 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:12.800 that kind of goes crosses where our flights three seventy 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:17.920 was and continues on westward kind of westward, of northwestward 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:23.120 across India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etcetera, and so, and it was 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:26.040 about at the same time. So he compared their flight 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.920 paths and the timing and everything like that, and they 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:32.640 were very close to each other, and our flight seven 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.640 he could have swung in behind and just sort of 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.960 shadowed it across all these countries, which would have required 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.640 them to shadow them pretty closely. He would have. They 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:43.480 would have had to be within about a thousand meters. 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:47.400 What about below how do you mean right underneath like 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:52.720 not like but like within a hundreds like but below thousands? Well, no, yeah, 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:54.880 you wouldn't want to be right smacked behind me. Wanted 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:59.560 either be above. But like if you was like kind 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:01.840 of ow it, that gives you a little bit, then 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.560 what does it give it more wiggle room? Is it? Like, yeah, 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:06.080 it gives you a little more. I mean, obviously the 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.720 guy at Singapore Flight is not going to slam on 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:10.720 his brakes. It wouldn't have any reason to you. But 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:12.960 you know, you hit a little turbulence something like that. 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.200 I mean, things can cause you to slow down and 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.520 speed up and things like that, so obviously you want 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:19.399 to give yourself as much wiggle room as you can, 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.240 but still straight close. But and what I was wondering 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.520 about that is, and I don't know this, so I'm 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:27.040 going to ask, and I'm going to guess you have 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.520 the answer. Is do planes, when they're in the air 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.880 to track other planes that are around, do they run 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.680 any kind of active radar of their own or they 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.199 just follow their plan and presume nobody's going to be 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:42.880 in the way. They leave it up to air traffic control. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.680 they don't run active active radar. I'm just thinking it 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:47.959 was like, well, you know, why wouldn't he see that 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.639 other plane if he accidentally got a little ahead of him, 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.600 because they're always falling behind and a little in front. 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.680 But if it's at night flying it, all their lights 0:17:56.680 --> 0:18:01.520 are on. That's what transponders off, and they're trusting right, 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:04.399 air traffic control will be like, dude, there's a plane. 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.919 Real clocks to get out of the way. Sorry. You 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:11.240 ever see that movie Pushing Tin Now? I never saw that. 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:20.879 It's oh Billy Bob Thornton and I can't remember. Yeah, 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:23.560 but it's there their air traffic controllers and all the 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.480 crazy stuff that goes on, and that's that's when I 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.320 can just I just I imagine that would be really 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:30.520 difficult to be in that same situation while you're in 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:35.479 your own plane. Yeah. So yeah, in terms of in 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.159 terms of the civilian flight control, it probably would have 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:41.040 worked just fine, especially since their transponder was off, because 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.760 apparently the resolution on on civilian radars is not as 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:47.200 precise as militaries military radars they have a higher resolution, 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:49.800 which is why you have to stay really really close 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.480 to keep them from figuring out as two separate objects. 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.480 Although it's possible to they might see two separate objects 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:58.239 and just concluded was a it was a echo, just 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:01.280 an echo or or something like that. So uh, and 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.560 then of course it could have peeled off anywhere, like 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:07.680 say Pakistan, you know, gone out in Pakistan has lots 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:09.760 and lots of big air strips. I had heard a 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:13.320 theory that that or somebody claiming on the internet, and 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.640 of course it was the internet right that Boeing was saying, no, 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:19.840 you landed in Pakistan. But I have problems with that 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:23.439 theory for other reasons. So they're they're claiming that Boeing 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.199 is saying specifically they know where it's landed, but that 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:31.080 like their technology tracking right, because there's I guess that there. Yeah, 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:35.000 exactly was said that that it had landed in like 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:39.200 Taliban controlled Pakistan. But I just feel like the Taliban 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:41.120 are not the kind of group who are like, yeah, 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:45.080 let's play this one close to the chest. Let's just 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:47.400 like keep it on the d L like, let's tell 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.520 anybody that we have this plane, and we have this plane. 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:52.000 It depends on what they're going to do with it. 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:56.040 If you're gonna fly over to Tell with a bunch 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:57.959 of dirty bombs or New Yorks or something like that, 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.280 then you obviously don't want to advertise a have it, 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:03.639 but I mean obviously you are. I mean, like already 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:07.520 this plane is like high profile. Yeah, well you gotta 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:09.520 you want to definitely hide that thing and be discreet 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.320 and how you bring it out. I was reading it 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:16.399 because they actually interviewed some Taliban he's some Taliban guys 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:19.040 and one of them, one of the spokesman spokesman, denied 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:20.880 that that they had it, and they said they knew 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:23.840 nothing about it. And they interviewed some other jihadi type guy, 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:25.800 I don't know if he was Taliban or not, and 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.400 he was saying he saying, no, we don't have it. Wow, 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:33.800 that would be so cool. I really wish I wisht that, 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:38.560 ye know, I would really love that. Sorry that was 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:42.160 a little little side track. Yeah, So anyway, I find 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:43.879 that there would be kind of credible that might have 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:46.920 allowed them to evade radar. So next theory, how did 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:49.560 they evade radar? Well, maybe they didn't go northwest. Maybe 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:51.840 they actually did go southwest and head off sort of 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:55.560 towards Diego, Garcia in that direction south Indian Ocean, and 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:58.720 that eventually either found how to remote island somehow somewhere 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:00.679 out there that had a long enough airstrip for them 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:05.119 to land on Well, according to one nut job, he 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:07.560 says that they crashed or he says that they probably 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:10.720 crashed into the air base at Diego, Garcia, destroying lots 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:14.400 and lots of valuable aircraft in the process. And according 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:17.080 to this guy, this guy's conspiracy theory, the government's coming 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:19.120 and covering it up because that's just what they do, 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:23.920 and they're embarrassed earlier something and there there has been 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:27.879 talk that it went to, uh is it on Deman 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:31.800 Islands there in the Bay of Bengal and they're they've 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:35.600 got there's one airport there that's big enough. Evidently they 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:38.960 could land a triple seven. And so if it was 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:42.119