WEBVTT - Keith Smith Joins The Heat Check!

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<v Speaker 1>All right, and now we have a special guest, Keith Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>the guru from spotrack and the best NBA follow on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter at Keith Smith NBA. He joined my other show

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<v Speaker 1>bet MGM tonight. I was joined by my co host

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Ashew and Ryan Horba. Let's get right into it

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<v Speaker 1>was a dope ass interview.

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<v Speaker 2>Keith Smith jumps on with us. Haven't talked to our

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<v Speaker 2>buddy Keith Smith in quite some time. Good to see

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<v Speaker 2>your face again, my friend. What do we expect from

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<v Speaker 2>the Grizzlies? Let's just put away tonight because it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the first game with job back, But like, what's

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<v Speaker 2>a realistic expectation for this Grizzlies team just moving forward

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<v Speaker 2>now that John Morant is back with them, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think just to be competitive the rest of the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Really just make these games solid, try to get a

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<v Speaker 3>sense of what does this team look like with John

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<v Speaker 3>Morant and Marcus Smart because he's also going to be

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<v Speaker 3>back at the end of the week, and get a

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<v Speaker 3>real sense of where do we want to go from here?

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<v Speaker 3>For them, just to get to five hundred, they'll need

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<v Speaker 3>to go thirty five and twenty two, and that's like

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<v Speaker 3>a winning percentage that would be mirrored out of the

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<v Speaker 3>top six teams right now, and that's just to get

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<v Speaker 3>to five hundred, and that's even knocking on the door

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<v Speaker 3>of the play in tournament. So I'm just not sure

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<v Speaker 3>that where we're headed this year for this team. They're

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<v Speaker 3>seven and a half out of the last playin spot

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<v Speaker 3>in the West right now, but you can't make that

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<v Speaker 3>all up in a week. So if I was Taylor Jenkins,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be saying, hey, let's try to make up a

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<v Speaker 3>game a week. That's even that is really difficult, but

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<v Speaker 3>let's try it and see where we landed when all

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<v Speaker 3>of a said and done.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, gonna be interesting to watch that progress, especially since

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<v Speaker 1>they have, you know, really no centers there. I'm curious

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<v Speaker 1>to get your thoughts on this Donovan Mitchell situation. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>he's mom, Darius Garland out for significant time, Evan Mobley

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<v Speaker 1>out significant time. I think the rumor was that the

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<v Speaker 1>Cavs might even look in the offseason last offseason to

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<v Speaker 1>move Jared Allen, and now no Donovan mental extension coming,

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<v Speaker 1>and now the trade rumors are starting to pile up.

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<v Speaker 4>Where are you at.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of likelihood of Tree this season? Before the

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<v Speaker 1>deadline and where he could potentially go and the probability

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<v Speaker 1>of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the no extension stuff is getting way overblown.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the exact same situation that Daron Fox is in

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<v Speaker 3>in Sacramento as far as extensions go, and everybody was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Daron Fox turned it down. That's smart because he can

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<v Speaker 3>make way more money later. So that's exactly where Donovan

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<v Speaker 3>Mitchell's in the same spot. So that part I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>overly worried about there because that was always going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a delayed thing until he either knew what his

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<v Speaker 3>all NBA future was and Kenny cash in on the

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<v Speaker 3>Supermax or not. As far as trades go, I think

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<v Speaker 3>the Calves they've won a couple in a row without

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<v Speaker 3>those two guys, but they're probably going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>team that's going to be hovering right around that six

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<v Speaker 3>seven line and the assured playoff spot or the playing tournament,

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<v Speaker 3>and then that's a major step back from where they

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<v Speaker 3>were a year ago. But I just can't see them

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<v Speaker 3>trading Donovan Mitchell roughly a year and a half in

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<v Speaker 3>to this experiment. I think that's something that drags into

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<v Speaker 3>the summertime and in the summer. If it's starting to

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<v Speaker 3>look like, yeah, he's not staying here no matter what happens,

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<v Speaker 3>that's when you have those conversations. I assume it'll start

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<v Speaker 3>right back up again with the knicks and the nets.

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<v Speaker 3>The Heat will be involved, the Lakers will be involved,

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<v Speaker 3>because they're always involved on any superstar. So that's where

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<v Speaker 3>we'll be, is you know, the kind of typical teams

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<v Speaker 3>that we heard involved last time. And then does some

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<v Speaker 3>other team jump in and say, you know what, We'll

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<v Speaker 3>grab him because we think he can put us over

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<v Speaker 3>the top of the next year or so, and that'll

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<v Speaker 3>convince him to stay here with us. That's always a

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<v Speaker 3>you know, tried and true thing that teams try to

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<v Speaker 3>do and try to make work. But we'll ultimately see

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<v Speaker 3>where that goes. But I don't think this one anything

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<v Speaker 3>happens in the next couple of months. I think this

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<v Speaker 3>goes into next summer at the earliest fur trade.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Keith, I'm so glad to have you on

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<v Speaker 4>because I haven't talked with you in a while here

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm looking at Boston plus three seventy five and

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<v Speaker 4>you're just the man to talk to. I've done it

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<v Speaker 4>two years in a row. They're gonna make fun of me,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm thinking about doing it again. They're eight and

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<v Speaker 4>two in their last ten twenty and five this season.

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<v Speaker 4>I love this team, actually, man. I like the KP

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<v Speaker 4>move more than I thought early thoughts on the Celtics

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<v Speaker 4>right now, the way that they're trending in any concerns

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<v Speaker 4>that you have moving forward in the East.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when they have their top guys together, they're great.

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<v Speaker 3>Any combination of their top six when they're all in

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<v Speaker 3>there is really good. It almost doesn't matter which five

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<v Speaker 3>of the six are on the floor. When they're missing

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<v Speaker 3>one or two of them, it starts to get a

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<v Speaker 3>little less great. They're still a good team, but they're

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<v Speaker 3>not that great. They're really dominant at home. I believe

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<v Speaker 3>now fourteen to no at home. I have been absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>just hammering teams in Boston this year, and they've been

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<v Speaker 3>kind of just okay on the road so far. They're

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<v Speaker 3>about to start tonight in Golden State, a long four

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<v Speaker 3>game road trip, kind of key road trip. They've got

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<v Speaker 3>the Warriors and the Kings back to back, and they've

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<v Speaker 3>got a couple of days off before they play an

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<v Speaker 3>afternoon game in Los Angeles. That always goes really well

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<v Speaker 3>for the visiting team, get a little bit of that

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<v Speaker 3>La flu going on, and then they've got the Lakers

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<v Speaker 3>on Christmas. So this is gonna be a stretch where

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna find out a lot about this team and

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<v Speaker 3>how they look. Chris apps Porzingis isn't gonna play tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks like they're kind of going to manage the

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<v Speaker 3>back to backs with him. They already do that with

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<v Speaker 3>Al Horford, so we'll see what that looks like. But

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<v Speaker 3>when they've got their main guys, they're really good. They're

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<v Speaker 3>kind of thing that's still out there is what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>If a couple of those guys go down, then they're

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<v Speaker 3>probably in trouble because they don't have they have good

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<v Speaker 3>functional depth. Their top six to seven eight guys are

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<v Speaker 3>fine for the playoff period. We we're long ways off

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<v Speaker 3>of that, so that that could be they lose guys.

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<v Speaker 3>They started losing a few games, that's how Milwaukee, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>Philadelphia could catch them and pass them in the standings

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<v Speaker 3>in the regular season.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking to Keith Smith bet MGM tonight, Hey, I'm watching

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<v Speaker 2>the Knicks recently now and I see a team that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, no Mitchell Robinson is obviously a major loss

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<v Speaker 2>for them. They don't really have a lot to go

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<v Speaker 2>with it in the in the middle now. But Julius

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<v Speaker 2>Randall has been great. H Jalen Brunson has been playing fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean at a fifty spot the other night. When

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<v Speaker 2>you look at this Knixt team, obviously we know they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be in the market. They've been in trade rumors

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<v Speaker 2>for another star. You mentioned Donovan Mitchell. That'll probably be

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<v Speaker 2>a summertime thing there. But when you look at this

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<v Speaker 2>team right now, where do they stack up from what

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<v Speaker 2>you've seen on the court with the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>Eastern Conference. It's kind of just where they're sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>the standings, or do you see a possibility where they

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<v Speaker 2>could maybe climb a little bit higher as the season

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<v Speaker 2>goes on.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're about where they are. I think their

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<v Speaker 3>record will improve, but I think they're a top six team,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're not in the category with the top three.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the East, the Celtics, the Bucks, and the

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<v Speaker 3>Sixers have really set themselves apart as the class of

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<v Speaker 3>the conference, and then the Knicks are in that next

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<v Speaker 3>group of teams, and that's got teams like Miami, Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 3>the Magic. Those teams are all kind of in that mix,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's fine. That's not necessarily a bad place to be.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just kind of where they're at, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>what limits them is Jalen Brunson is really good, but

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<v Speaker 3>some teams have figured out ways to kind of scheme

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<v Speaker 3>and take him out of things a little bit. Julius

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<v Speaker 3>Randall's still very hit or miss. RJ Barrett is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe the most inconsistent guy in the league. He can

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<v Speaker 3>drop thirty one night and then have ten the next

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<v Speaker 3>and it looks good because on the overall season stats

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<v Speaker 3>it's twenty points per game. But yeah, you kind of

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<v Speaker 3>when you see how it got there, you're you're kind

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<v Speaker 3>of left, uh, puzzled a little bit. And then I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like they've just got too many guards and wings

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<v Speaker 3>for the minutes they want to play. We've already heard

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Hart and Quinton Grimes both grumble a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>about their roles. We heard Emmanuel Quickly a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>when he came back after missing a game that he

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<v Speaker 3>was feeling a little left out out in the cold

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<v Speaker 3>wood minutes. So I think that's just gonna be something

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<v Speaker 3>they're gonna have to work through until the trade comes,

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<v Speaker 3>and it really comes down to they're going to be

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<v Speaker 3>the group they've been over the last let's call it

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<v Speaker 3>about four years now, which is extremely patient and is

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<v Speaker 3>waiting and biding their time. They're not chasing. They chase

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<v Speaker 3>the A level guys if they don't get them. The

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<v Speaker 3>old Knicks would have said, all right, let's get three

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<v Speaker 3>C level guys and call it good. Now this group

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<v Speaker 3>has been a lot more patient. They wait, they hold,

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<v Speaker 3>and they try to see what develops for them. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're in a spot with the Knicks where

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<v Speaker 3>it's probably what you see is what you get. But

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<v Speaker 3>maybe that big move is just around the corner, because

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<v Speaker 3>they do get the sense they've been piling up assets,

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<v Speaker 3>they've been retaining players, waiting and biding their time to

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<v Speaker 3>make that big move.

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Hawks Keith off to a very very disappointing start.

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<v Speaker 1>They're eleven and fifteen, just one game better than the Bulls,

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<v Speaker 1>who actually been a lot better now that Zach Lavine

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been playing, and one game better than the Hornets.

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<v Speaker 1>What can Quinn Snyder do to fix this? Or is

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<v Speaker 1>this roster fixable?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's more what can the front office due

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<v Speaker 3>to help Quinn Snyder fix it now? Part of it

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<v Speaker 3>will be fixed when they get Jalen Johnson back. He

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<v Speaker 3>was playing really, really well for them. He was arguably,

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<v Speaker 3>you could say, their second best player behind Trey Young

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<v Speaker 3>in the early part of the season. I think Clint

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<v Speaker 3>Capella is where to the territory now where we should

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<v Speaker 3>be having a conversation. Should in Yaka kong Wu replace

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<v Speaker 3>him in the starting group and where does that go

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<v Speaker 3>moving forward? I don't know. The cityqe Bay DeAndre Hunter

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<v Speaker 3>forward pairing just doesn't really work for me. They're there

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<v Speaker 3>are two guys who were just kind of averaging just

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<v Speaker 3>about all ways. They're neither one of them is a

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<v Speaker 3>bad player, but neither one of them is overly special,

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<v Speaker 3>So you're you're real messy. The offense. I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>where Win Snider could do some stuff. And I thought

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<v Speaker 3>their game, albeit it was against the Pistons last night,

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<v Speaker 3>you did see some semblance of we're gonna cut out

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<v Speaker 3>some of the Dejonte Maury running the offense type stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna really we're gonna let Trey kind of lead

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<v Speaker 3>us there, and and Trey got his shots, but he

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<v Speaker 3>also was really got the ball moving. It was sending

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<v Speaker 3>guys off up, and they put Murray into this off

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<v Speaker 3>ball secondary creator role, and I think that's better than

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<v Speaker 3>the all right, we got to give Dejonte a few

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<v Speaker 3>possessions here, and then Trey Young goes and stands out

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<v Speaker 3>around the logo somewhere and doesn't move, and there's multiple

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<v Speaker 3>clips you can see he just doesn't move. And then

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<v Speaker 3>the big thing is their defense stakes, and it's just

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna get any better with the personnel they have.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's probably something where Quinn Snyder can do only

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<v Speaker 3>do so much, and maybe they make a trade and

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<v Speaker 3>do something to balance the roster a little bit better

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<v Speaker 3>for him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all the time that we have for the Heat Check.

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<v Speaker 1>Big thanks to Keith and the whole gang at bet

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<v Speaker 1>MGM tonight. Come back tomorrow for an all new episode.

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