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Speaker 3: It's Tuesday here on The Herd. Jason McIntyre back in

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Speaker 3: for Colin Cowherd, who's on a vacation and boy is

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Speaker 3: he missing a lot. The Lakers win again. Kevin Durant

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Speaker 3: is horrific. We got the World Baseball Classic title game tonight,

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Speaker 3: and oh my gosh, an NFL trade just went down,

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Speaker 3: shaking up the AFC even more. Rachel Nichols, you got

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Speaker 3: a great show today. Oh don't you love it when

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Speaker 3: a trade happens like great before the show.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is just a great week on the calendar,

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Speaker 4: right on the sports calendar. Everything's happening, and even the

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Speaker 4: NFL not in season chimes in.

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Speaker 3: Yes, with this deal, we we got mock drafts dropping that.

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Speaker 3: I don't like it all, but it's not about the

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Speaker 3: mock draft er. It's about the players. We'll get to

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Speaker 3: that later in the show, but we got to start

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Speaker 3: with the NFL trade. They're calling this a blockbuster. I

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Speaker 3: don't know that I would go there. The Broncos and

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Speaker 3: Dolphins make a seismic trade. You got Jalen Waddle going

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Speaker 3: from Miami to Denver, Waddle and a fourth in exchange,

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Speaker 3: in exchange for a first, third, and fourth. There it

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Speaker 3: is on the screen, So the Miami Dolphins will now

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Speaker 3: have the thirtieth pick in the first round, thirtieth overall,

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Speaker 3: and a third and the fourth. Miami pretty clearly signaling

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Speaker 3: what they're doing. So a long time ago, somebody smart

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Speaker 3: told me, Jay, don't believe people when they say something.

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Speaker 3: Believe people when they do something. Somebody comes out and says, oh,

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Speaker 3: I want to start a business, and they're playing video

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Speaker 3: games around the clock. Right. Somebody says I want to

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Speaker 3: write a screenplay and they're out boozing it up three

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Speaker 3: nights a week at bars. Okay, believe their actions. For

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Speaker 3: the last month in chains, the Miami Dolphins have been said.

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Speaker 2: We're not tanking.

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Speaker 3: No, we're not tanking. That's not a thing we do.

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Speaker 3: We just got rid of Tyreek Hill and Bradley Chubb

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Speaker 3: so we could clean up our cap. And then the

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Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins went out and said we're gonna go get

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Speaker 3: Malik Willis. See, that's not what tanking teams do. We've

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Speaker 3: got maybe our franchise quarterback. And then now five minutes later,

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Speaker 3: here come the Dolphins trading one of their three good players. Guys,

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Speaker 3: I'm not even exaggerating. The Miami Dolphins roster is horrible.

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Speaker 3: Did I say horrible? Horrific? It's terrible. It's right down

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Speaker 3: there with the Jets. And it's very clear. The signal

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Speaker 3: is out Miami is tanking. I know you don't want

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Speaker 3: to hear it tankings for the NBA. No, the Miami

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Speaker 3: Dolphins have a clear vision. We need to clear up

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Speaker 3: our cap, clean it all out. Let's get rid of

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Speaker 3: the old players from the old regime, and let's target

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty seven draft. They are loading up. I

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Speaker 3: saw they have four third round picks, picks for next

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Speaker 3: year's draft. Everybody knows next year's draft is the one

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Speaker 3: with quarterbacks. Okay, Arch Banning would be the big prize.

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Speaker 3: Everybody would love him. My Jets would love him. They

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Speaker 3: are also in full on tank vote. I mean gino

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Speaker 3: Smith really seriously, And if you don't want to Arch Banning,

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Speaker 3: find a car at Notre Dames very good, or you

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Speaker 3: can just get the guy who comes out of nowhere

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Speaker 3: was absolutely not the number one pick after his first

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Speaker 3: year at LSU, or cam Ward or Fernando Mendoza. None

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Speaker 3: one pick. Someone always emerges, and it's clear the Miami

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Speaker 3: Dolphins are tanking and looking to the future. Milike Willis,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he has some buyer's remorse on accepting that contract. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: the millions of dollars will be great, but it's gonna

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Speaker 3: be a rough season ahead for Miami. Now, the other

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Speaker 3: side of the coin is the Denver Broncos, and you've

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Speaker 3: gotta love this trade if you're a Broncos fan. They're

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Speaker 3: doing cart in altitude right now. I mean, Sean Payton

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Speaker 3: gets a great weapon in Jalen Waddle, who fits in

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Speaker 3: that offense perfectly. I know he hasn't been an all pro.

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Speaker 3: who's the big body, contested guy. Wattle you see, is

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Speaker 3: Pat Bryant, who looks like a player. They drafted him

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Speaker 3: the quarterback on the rookie deal, and the move is

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Speaker 3: fortify the roster. Broncos fans were a little upset that

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Speaker 3: they didn't do more yet in the offseason, kind of

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Speaker 3: resigning their guys no big splashes. This qualifies as a splash.

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Speaker 3: I do wonder, Listen, the trade just broke thirty minutes ago,

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Speaker 3: so we don't know the details. But is it possible

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Speaker 3: that the Broncos looked at the draft analyzed guys from

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Speaker 3: This is a season pro he comes in. Yet listen,

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton's gonna unlock some of his best stuff the

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Speaker 3: same way Mike McDaniel did. I think this is a

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Speaker 3: great trade for the Broncos, and I will add, folks,

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Speaker 3: you look around the AFC, there's a lot of uncertainty.

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Speaker 3: I mean, hell, the Bills and Ravens, two contenders with

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is coming off a major injury, and I

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Speaker 3: know they're saying all the right things. Oh, Mahomes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he'll be ready for the opener. Okay, well you can

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Speaker 3: say that, but again, what are your actions. They just

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Speaker 3: guess starts Week one. I know the league wouldn't love that.

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Speaker 3: They love Mahomes back in the saddle, but there's uncertainty

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Speaker 3: they just lost their top two quarterbacks. So we're looking

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Speaker 3: So the AFC is kind of sort of wide open.

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Speaker 3: And the Broncos just watched the New England Patriots go

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Speaker 3: run for the Denver Broncos. Just an outstanding move. Sean

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Speaker 3: Payton and company in Denver have done a phenomenal job

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Speaker 3: pivoting from Russell Wilson's disaster too quickly. Number one seed

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Speaker 3: So great trade for the Broncos. Miami Dolphins fans, as

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Speaker 3: they like to say on social media, enjoy the projects.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a rough year for the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's pivot to last night's huge game in

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Speaker 3: had an option here, folks. Do we start positive with

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Speaker 3: the Lakers because JJ Reddick is really unlocking some incredible

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Speaker 3: stuff with this Lakers team. They're one of the hottest

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Speaker 3: teams in the league. Okay, nine wins in their last

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Speaker 3: ten games, six in a row. Nice comeback in the

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Speaker 3: doing it all? Lebron James, Hey, Lebron, I need you

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Speaker 3: to pull back a little bit on offense. Pick your spots.

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Speaker 3: What does Lebron do? Pulls back? Picks his spots? Lebron

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Speaker 3: Lebron's doing it all. JJ Reddick has been magnificent. He's

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Speaker 3: not gonna win Coach of the Year because there's too

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Speaker 3: many other great candidates. Joe Mizzoula is up there. You

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Speaker 7: You know, it's one of the things we talked about

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dynamic is the perfect word. So the offense struggled

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Speaker 3: without Luca to start the fourth. The fourth quarter was

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Speaker 3: And this is where Reddick comes in. And I know

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Speaker 3: love Kevin Durant, and we'll go after him here in

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Speaker 3: a minute for what's going on in Houston. But Durant wilted, Folks.

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Speaker 3: Kad just lowered the shoulder and banged him and got

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Speaker 3: Durant was totally rattled by everything, Reddick. It was a

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Speaker 3: masterful performance. And I know, Jay Mack, why are you

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Speaker 3: glazing the Lakers again? Come on, man, stop they're not contenders, folks. Listen,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you want me to do. You

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Speaker 3: Reddick unlocking the best version of Austin Reeves of Lebron

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Speaker 3: Marcus Smart. I mean, hell, last night, DeAndre Ayton looked

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Speaker 3: it's understandable because Ayton, you know, calls himself the Dominator.

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Speaker 3: then he plays awful and they pull him out for

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Speaker 4: But just the diversity it's going to bring to the

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Speaker 3: USA Venezuela tonight. Everybody excited for that one. Just a

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Speaker 3: great sports week. Come on, and I didn't even mentioned

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Speaker 3: my Men's Basketball League championship. Oh my lords this week,

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Speaker 5: Those how many teams in your league?

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Speaker 3: There's six teams in the league.

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Speaker 3: That's my style. I don't want to be a leader

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Speaker 7: My team is the I'm quarterby Park can make more three,

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Speaker 6: You just got to convert.

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Speaker 7: Maybe I thought he just got the way get in

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Speaker 5: Kad not making your rec league team apparently.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about Steve Kerr had his six hundredth win

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Speaker 4: was only David Robinson teams.

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Speaker 3: Oh, here we go, the most combined he has nine.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: I mean at some point you got to just say, listen,

430
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Speaker 3: heinsen case Sam Jones, what was that like the sixties?

431
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Speaker 5: Well, okay, so, I mean that's my thing.

432
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Speaker 4: People people always quick to say our back in any

433
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Speaker 4: of these conversations, and he obviously was just a huge

434
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Speaker 4: personality in the NBA at the time. But to me,

435
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Speaker 4: it's kind of again I'm not trying to insult you,

436
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 4: it's kind of like your rec league in that there

437
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 4: were literally eight teams in the NBA for most of

438
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Speaker 4: Red Auberk's coaching career, and then like at the very end,

439
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Speaker 4: there were nine.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I just it makes it a little bit

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Speaker 5: harder for me to.

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Speaker 4: Count those titles in the same way. So I'm sorry

443
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Speaker 4: to Boston fans on Saint Patrick's Day.

444
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Speaker 3: No, it's right, is he in the discussion with Phil Jackson.

445
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Speaker 5: Steve Kerr, Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 4: I mean one of the things that I think, really

447
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Speaker 4: I said, managing that talent, I think that is underrated

448
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Speaker 4: when people are like, oh, oh he had Lebron, Oh

449
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Speaker 4: he had Jack and Kobe, Oh he had Steph Curry

450
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Speaker 4: or whatever.

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Speaker 5: That's not easy.

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Speaker 4: You think Steve Kerr navigating the Stephy, Kevin Durant, Draymond

453
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Speaker 4: Green situation. Do you think Phil Jackson navigating Shaq and Kobe?

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I just think that. And Steve

455
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Speaker 4: is to have to navigate his own things. I mean,

456
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Speaker 4: Steve set the culture for that team. Obviously, Steph Curry

457
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 4: is Steph Curry. Nothing would happen without him. But that

458
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Speaker 4: playing with joy, that sort of you know, numbers all

459
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Speaker 4: you know, we all have to do. It's all about

460
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Speaker 4: the numbers. You know, it takes you know, twelve of us.

461
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Speaker 4: Whatever is is Steve.

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Speaker 3: That's a good discussion. So I don't want to go

463
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Speaker 3: my inclination. Most people would say, well, it's Phil Jackson.

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Speaker 3: I mean he coached Jordan, Kobe and Shaq. What what

465
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Speaker 3: has Phil done more with less? Because Steve Kerk I

466
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Speaker 3: mean when he inherited the Warriors, they hadn't won anything right,

467
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Speaker 3: and Scheff Curry was out thought of his anywhere close.

468
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Speaker 5: To well that's the thing.

469
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Speaker 4: I mean, they upgraded quote unquote to Steve Kerb because

470
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Speaker 4: Mark Jackson, by the way, got them from bad to

471
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Speaker 4: the middle, and they were like, oh, the middle isn't

472
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Speaker 4: good enough with this talent. So obviously Steve came in

473
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Speaker 4: and did something, and you know, Steph obviously progressing himself.

474
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Speaker 4: But I think I think the way coaches manage talent

475
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Speaker 4: is just as important as sort of how many wins

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Speaker 4: do they have. Greg Popovich is a great coach, not

477
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Speaker 4: just because he's won a lot of games and rings.

478
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Speaker 4: It's because of the culture he's set.

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Speaker 5: Up in San Antonio.

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Speaker 4: You had Victor webin Yama before the draft lottery his

481
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Speaker 4: year being like, I really just hope I go to

482
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Speaker 4: the Spurs.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's crazy for a kid in.

484
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Speaker 4: France to say that, but he was like, I just

485
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Speaker 4: want to be coached by Greg Popovich.

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Speaker 3: I mean maybe Tony Parker that that guy.

487
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Speaker 5: Of course, I mean he was watching he was watching

488
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Speaker 5: those teams more.

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Speaker 3: I guess. Lastly, I will Phil Jackson. So Jordan didn't

490
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Speaker 3: win anything without Phil Jackson. He couldn't win with Doug Collins, right,

491
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Speaker 3: couldn't get out of the second round of the playoffs. Yeah,

492
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Speaker 3: so when Phil shows up, he went so I got

493
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Speaker 3: to get Phil credit for that. It's tough. That's a

494
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Speaker 3: good discussion. I don't know. There's no right answer. Obviously

495
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Speaker 3: it's subjective.

496
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Speaker 4: But yeah, no, so I don't know, all right, From

497
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Speaker 4: six hundred wins to fifty Victor webin Yama on the

498
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Speaker 4: Spurs they got their fiftieth win of the season Jason

499
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Speaker 4: last night beating the Clippers. After the game, though, Wenby

500
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Speaker 4: said fifty wins isn't enough.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen, first fifteen wins, he's sixteen to seven.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe, you guys, these growth I still not enough.

503
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Speaker 8: You know, I want to get to at least sixty two.

504
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Speaker 8: Bellows shot my root the season.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I love this.

506
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Speaker 3: I think you have a crush, right, No, I know

507
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Speaker 3: he's awesome. What's he's very likable?

508
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Speaker 5: That would be yeah, inappropriate. This is what we say. Yes,

509
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Speaker 5: but look, it's not just that. To me.

510
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Speaker 4: It's not just the like crazy physical gifts. It's not

511
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Speaker 4: just the talent. His work ethic is actually is excellent.

512
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Speaker 4: But it's stuff like this, like how refreshing is it

513
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Speaker 4: to hear a player talk about goals for the regular season,

514
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Speaker 4: talk about oh, we got to get sixty wins. Oh,

515
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Speaker 4: we've got to have a competitive All Star Game. I mean,

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Speaker 4: that kind of stuff I think is part of what

517
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Speaker 4: impress me so much about him too.

518
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Speaker 3: And like the end of the game, I'm sure you

519
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Speaker 3: saw the highlight where he was scrambling around the court

520
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Speaker 3: defending everyone sixty win. So I'm guessing in their rookie

521
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Speaker 3: year they lost sixties. That were they like.

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Speaker 5: Twenty Yeah, I mean they were bad. I mean I

523
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Speaker 5: thought it was interesting too. The reporter brought it up.

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Speaker 4: You know they we think about the Spurs is this

525
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Speaker 4: organization that's handed off from David Rebinson, Tom Duncan to

526
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Speaker 4: Quiet to Wemby. It's been almost ten years since they

527
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Speaker 4: reached the Spence Park and the season isn't even over yet.

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Speaker 3: I'm still taking them over over the Thunder. Now. The

529
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Speaker 3: problem is, right now it would be Spurs Lakers second round.

530
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Speaker 3: Don't really like that. That's a problem for the league obviously,

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Speaker 3: that's a problem for Luca Lebron. I don't like their

532
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Speaker 3: chances in that one.

533
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I.

534
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Speaker 4: Mean it could it could help them clear up some

535
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Speaker 4: issues this summer.

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Speaker 3: Though, perhaps talking about Lebron James, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying that, you know, I think how the

538
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Speaker 4: Lakers do in the playoffs might influence how much the

539
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Speaker 4: Lakers want to keep Lebron. I mean, get into this

540
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Speaker 4: throughout the show, but you know, and also how much

541
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Speaker 4: Lebron wants to stay. And also, hey, if Wenby and

542
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 4: the Spurs showed that the Lakers defensive issues with those

543
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 4: three guys in the court are more glaring than they've

544
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Speaker 4: looked in the past couple of weeks, then maybe that

545
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 4: influences things too. But regardless, what's interesting to me about

546
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Speaker 4: Wemby and guys like Lebron is.

547
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Speaker 5: That you've had so many big, huge players say I'm glad,

548
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 5: I'm glad he's not there. I'm not coming into the

549
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 5: league with him.

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Speaker 4: Lebron actually said Wemby is what's going to make me retire, Like.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's incredible. Yeah, right.

552
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Speaker 4: Jokich said something very similar, like you have Lebron and

553
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 4: Nikola Jokic being like, oh, I'm glad I'm not on

554
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Speaker 4: the same timeline.

555
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Speaker 5: As this guy.

556
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Speaker 3: He's a monster.

557
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Speaker 5: Like that's pretty incredible.

558
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Speaker 4: All right, Let's talk a little World Baseball Classic Team Italy.

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Speaker 4: Their run is over, Jason, but I mean the electric

560
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Speaker 4: we had someone yesterday right, telling us they're the Cinderella

561
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Speaker 4: Sweet sixteen, number sixteen seed story of the WBC. They

562
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Speaker 4: fell of Venezuela last night four to two, but after

563
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Speaker 4: the game, Vinnie Pasquentino said he's so grateful to be

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Speaker 4: accepted with open arms.

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Speaker 5: By the Italian players.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's an American player obviously, and he said

567
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Speaker 4: he'd been to Italy.

568
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Speaker 5: Once before this tournament.

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Speaker 4: But Vinnie Pespontino, you know, this guy is definitely an

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Speaker 4: Italian to just be able to have a guy like

571
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Speaker 4: that talk about growing the game in Italy and chances

572
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Speaker 4: for players like this. Baseball fans, of course know this guy.

573
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Speaker 4: He's fun, he's a great quote, he's a good fantasy player.

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Speaker 4: But the general sports fan is probably not familiar with

575
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 4: the you know, Royals roster, and I think the general

576
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Speaker 4: sports fan got a taste of him in this series,

577
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Speaker 4: and I mean, he's just he's so fun.

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Speaker 3: I think you predicted this last year. I did. Yeah, yeah,

579
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Speaker 3: I had, you know, you had. Italy is Italian, so

580
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Speaker 3: I got a rock with the team, but.

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 3: So Venezuela US tonight on Fox and uh Rachel with

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Speaker 3: the news.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the news and Thanks for stopping by

585
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Speaker 2: the Herd line news.

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Speaker 3: So coming up next to get us into that, Joe

587
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 3: Davis stops by Venezuela USA. Some interesting pitching chatter regarding

588
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Speaker 3: USA should be a good one. That's next year on

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Speaker 3: the Herd.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon Easter not am.

592
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Speaker 4: Pacific World Baseball Classic tonight the final game as Team

593
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Speaker 4: USA looks to take home the championship against Ronald Lacuna

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Speaker 4: Junior and Venezuela. Coverage begins at seven pm Eastern for

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Speaker 4: Pacific on Fox.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's a big one, and you know we

597
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: bring out the big guns. Let's bring in Joe Davis,

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Speaker 3: the voice of baseball here on Fox Sports. He called

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Speaker 3: Venezuela Italy last night a thriller. Joe, great to have

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Speaker 3: you on the show. Before we get to the USA game,

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Speaker 3: talk about last night. It sounds like watching it on

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Speaker 3: TV that the vibes were just off the charts. The

603
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Speaker 3: stadium was going crazy.

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Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, I mean it was because it didn't do much,

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Speaker 9: Because Venezuela didn't do much for the first six innings

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Speaker 9: of the game. It was and there would be moments

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Speaker 9: where there would come to life. But then that little

608
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Speaker 9: rally that lived two out rally where they had four

609
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Speaker 9: straight singles, it was as loud as any stadium I've

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Speaker 9: ever been in.

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Speaker 3: Wow, unbelievable. So what's your guest tonight? Obviously USA Venezuela.

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Speaker 3: The crowd will be slightly more Venezuela, but we think

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Speaker 3: in like sixty forty, maybe bigger.

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Speaker 9: I think it's at least seventy thirty Venezuela. Really, I

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Speaker 9: don't know if it'll break down that way, like if

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Speaker 9: you were to actually count, I don't know if it

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Speaker 9: would be seventy thirty, but it's probably gonna feel even

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Speaker 9: beyond that, just the amount of passion and noise that

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Speaker 9: the Venezuelan fans bring. I think it's gonna feel like

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Speaker 9: eighty five fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah, that's that's a little wild, all right.

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Speaker 3: So Nolan McLain, as the start of tonight got roughed

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Speaker 3: up against Italy. I'm sure there's some casual baseball fans

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Speaker 3: out there saying, wait a sec, the team USA Championship

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Speaker 3: Game World Baseball, we're starting, Nolan McLean. I guess what

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Speaker 3: are your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, this is the best pitching staff team USA has

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Speaker 9: ever had. But still you're dealing with the issue that

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Speaker 9: every team in the World Baseball Classic deals with, and

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Speaker 9: that is you have two sets that you're trying to please.

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Speaker 9: You got your nation's team you try to win a

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Speaker 9: championship for, but then you have your big league employer

633
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 9: and they have their own wishes, as they should, right

634
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 9: they want you to be getting ready for the regular season,

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Speaker 9: building up appropriately. So you're not going to have the

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Speaker 9: top three starting pitchers, the top five starting pitchers or

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Speaker 9: whatever it is from each country. You're going to have

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Speaker 9: the top three to five guys that you can get.

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Speaker 9: So look, they had the last two Cy Young winners.

640
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Speaker 9: They had Scooball make one start, you had Schemes make two,

641
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Speaker 9: Logan webs a two time All Star. So it's the

642
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 9: best pitching staff they've ever had, but it's still in

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Speaker 9: a situation where, yeah, while he's talented, he's only made

644
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 9: eight major league starts.

645
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 6: This is the best option that they're left with the championship, and.

646
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: Then there's further concern about the pitching staff and depth

647
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 3: with Miller and Bedner and their availability. What's the latest

648
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 3: on those guys.

649
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 9: I don't know if we're going to know officially until

650
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 9: we get to the game, because there are literally conversations

651
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 9: going on right up until game time with the parent clubs.

652
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 6: Can we use the guy tonight? You know? And it's

653
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 6: hard to get mad at the teams for saying no.

654
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 9: I mean, like, yeah, you can get emotional about it,

655
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 9: being like I let them pitch for Team USA, But

656
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 9: how could say aj Preler or the Padres live with

657
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 9: himself Mason Miller went out there and got hurt. God

658
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 9: forbid tonight, you know, Like, I hope he pitches, and

659
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 9: of course hope that he's healthy and closes the thing

660
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 9: down and as spectacular as he has been. But you

661
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 9: can understand why these big league clubs have their concerns,

662
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 9: and it's just it's competing interests.

663
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ultimately, do you think teams are more like hey,

664
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: Team USA, ra RA, everybody's excited, or are they like, hey,

665
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: you know that's great at all, but we need him

666
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: shut down. We can't have him go to.

667
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 9: I think more and more there's buy in. They're seeing

668
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 9: what this tournament has turned into. I think that you

669
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 9: just look at the difference in pitching staff this year

670
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 9: compared to the twenty twenty three team for Team USA.

671
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 9: Twenty twenty three team didn't have a single guy that

672
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 9: had gotten a cy Young vote the year before, and

673
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 9: again this year's team had both cy Young winners last year,

674
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 9: a two time All Star and web a loaded bullpen.

675
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 9: So yeah, I think that there is much more of

676
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 9: an appreciation for this is about the greater good of

677
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 9: the game.

678
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 6: But still it's not completely rains off yet.

679
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 3: So it'll have a Game seven World Series field tonight,

680
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: hopefully in eighty five to fifteen Venezuela noise wise, But

681
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 3: I guess is there do you have an edge to

682
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 3: either team here? Is there something you've seen in the

683
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 3: World Baseball Classic that gives one side the edge?

684
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 9: Venezuela's bullpen has been awesome, So you look and you

685
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 9: see that Atuado Rodriguez is starting and he's not been

686
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 9: very good. The bullpen's been awesome. Six plus innings scoreless

687
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 9: against Japan for venez seven and two third scoreless last night.

688
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 9: What do they have left for tonight? And they're dealing

689
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 9: with those same conversations that Mark Durose is with the

690
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 9: parent clubs for his pitchers. Who can they use back

691
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 9: to back days? Who can they use what it now be?

692
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 9: If they were to use a guy three times in

693
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 9: four days, that's going to be up to the parent

694
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 9: clubs if they let them. So, Venezuela has got a

695
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 9: serious advantage if all those guys are available in the bullpen.

696
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 9: You look at the lineups, Yeah, Team USA is stacked.

697
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 9: It's a who's who, it's a murderer's row. But Venezuela

698
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 9: has got six All Stars. They got a former MVP

699
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 9: and Acuna. You got a home run champion and a

700
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 9: probably a future Hall of Famer in Salvador Perez who's

701
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 9: coming off of the bench.

702
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 6: So there's just as much talent in that Venezuela lineup too.

703
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned the difference between the pitching staff from

704
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: twenty three to twenty six for USA. What about the bats?

705
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 3: Would you say significant upgrade or I mean this is

706
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 3: one of the better lineups we've ever seen.

707
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't want to call it significant upgrade. I

708
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 9: think just the most obvious thing is that Aaron Judge

709
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 9: is in there. As we know he can transform it.

710
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 9: He's been really good in this tournament. I think you

711
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 9: could say Judge has kind of been what USA has

712
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 9: been in this tournament. He's not been bad, but he's

713
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 9: not maybe been as extraordinary as you would hope. And

714
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 9: I think you can say the same thing about the

715
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 9: Team USA lineup. Part of that is judges don't getting

716
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 9: much to hit collectively. For the lineup, I think everybody's

717
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 9: still sitting there waiting when is it going to explode?

718
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 9: Michael Young, one of the coaches, said, it's like a

719
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 9: volcano and they all feel it like it's going to

720
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 9: erupt at some point. You figure, but this tournament is

721
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 9: so short, is it going to erupt in time to

722
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 9: keep up with a good Venezuela offense tonight?

723
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 3: Which kind of makes the MVP discussion a little difficult

724
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 3: because would you say there's a clear leader at this

725
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 3: point or is it simply Hey, whoever plays best tonight

726
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: probably takes it.

727
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 9: I think you may end up with that who is

728
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 9: the hero of Game seven may become the MVP if

729
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 9: you had to talk about it right now. If it

730
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 9: was for Team USA, Roman Anthony two home runs shriven

731
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 9: in nine, he had to go ahead home run the

732
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 9: other night. Gunner Anderson leads the team an average, but

733
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 9: he's only started a couple of games, so it feels

734
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 9: odd to make him the MVP. I mean, you could

735
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 9: talk about schemes and his two starts, as spectacular as

736
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 9: he's been, but I think it does come down to

737
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 9: tonight who has the big swing to win what is

738
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 9: going to feel like a Game seven and has all

739
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 9: the dimensions of a Game seven where it all comes

740
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 9: down to.

741
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: This Joe you also called Dodgers games since twenty sixteen,

742
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: Otani said he was kind of disappointed in the result.

743
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 3: He didn't pitch any vibes on Otani coming into this

744
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 3: season for the Dodgers, coming off what I guess they

745
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: would call a disappointing World Baseball Classic.

746
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, anytime Japan bows out that early, which is the

747
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 9: earliest they've ever.

748
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 6: Left, it's going to be a huge disappointment.

749
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 9: As far as O'tani talking to people around the Dodgers,

750
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 9: I go, how in the world can the guy do

751
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 9: any better? You know, he has fifty to fifty seas

752
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 9: in his first year he resumes pitching last year, He's

753
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 9: won a World Series both years.

754
00:36:59,200 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 6: With the team.

755
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 9: The feeling I'm getting is that people think that the

756
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 9: way he's wired, he's always going to find something even

757
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 9: if there's nothing obvious, and I think that the most

758
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 9: obvious thing for him to find would be a way

759
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 9: to win a cy Young. That's the one thing that

760
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 9: he doesn't that's that one little opening on the trophy.

761
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 6: Shelf that he hasn't filled yet.

762
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 9: So he when he a couple of years ago wasn't pitching,

763
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 9: he said, I'm going to turn into a stolen based threat,

764
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 9: and stole fifty eight this year, fully removed from Tommy

765
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 9: john surgery. Full build up. It's hard to like, it's

766
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 9: hard to ever doubt his ability to do anything. And

767
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 9: that's the one thing that he hasn't done.

768
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: So you're almost making me want to go bet Otani

769
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 3: to win a cy Young. But I'm curious. So did

770
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: he not pitch with Japan because the Dodgers said, hey,

771
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 3: don't pitch or was it his choicer.

772
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 9: Mutual conversation where they just think that the best build

773
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 9: up for him is one that's a little more measured,

774
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 9: a little more controlled than putting him out there in

775
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 9: the middle of these intense turn at games.

776
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Joe Davis, voice of the Dodgers, calling

777
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: the World Baseball Classic the Big One tonight. Everybody's excited.

778
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 3: USA Venezuela. Joe, thanks a lot. Enjoy the game. Can't

779
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: wait to watch it on Fox.

780
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 6: Okay, Jason, thanks for having me Bud.

781
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: All right, Joe Davis, boy the excitement tonight. Listen. I

782
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: know Rachel's fired up. We got March Badness, World Baseball Classic,

783
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 3: NBA winding out, NFL Trade.

784
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 4: I've been so loving this World Baseball Classic, like I've

785
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 4: been on the edge of my seat. When he says

786
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 4: it's like a game seven, yeah, that is one hundred

787
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 4: percent what it feels like. The last game for Team

788
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 4: USA was like tension with every second.

789
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 5: I've loved it. This is a great tournament.

790
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: His volcano analogy, I feel like it applies to like

791
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 3: a Bryce Harper Aaron Judge, are they playing tight? You know,

792
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be fine tonight. I obviously taking

793
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: the USA to win.

794
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, of course because of all the reasons. But

795
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 4: I mean, look, Judge, what I like about what Aaron's done?

796
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 4: And he said he's not gotten a lot pitched to

797
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 4: him that can kind of create some these explosive moments.

798
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 4: He had one that looked like a home run and

799
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 4: then you know, guy climbed the wall to get it. Yeah,

800
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 4: the throw that he made in the last game in

801
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 4: the semifinal to third, I think they said it was

802
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 4: like ninety something miles an hour. Like I that was

803
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 4: a huge play, huge, and you could see it affect

804
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 4: the Dominican players the rest of the night. They weren't

805
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 4: trying to steal bases in the same way. Someone like

806
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 4: clocked it with it the change was And so what

807
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 4: I like is that he's able to affect I mean,

808
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 4: look at that, He's able to affect the game. And

809
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 4: because he got the out there, the entire rest of

810
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 4: the night, guys were not taking his big leads. Guys

811
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 4: weren't trying to steal bases, so even when they probably

812
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 4: should have. So I do like that Aaron Judge has

813
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 4: made an impact because that's what he does.

814
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: And how about it's great even non Yankee fans. Yeah,

815
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 3: by the way, how do you divide the Yankees Dodgers.

816
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: I feel like you've told me that before.

817
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 5: I'm not a I didn't grew up in New York.

818
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 4: Your kids it's oh my kids, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

819
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 4: my kids have gone. You know, my husband grew up

820
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 4: in New York, native New York or Yankee fan, and

821
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 4: I you know have really I didn't.

822
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 5: I didn't feel a.

823
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 4: Big attachment because the Nationals weren't there when I was

824
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 4: a kid.

825
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 5: And that's really the city I lived, you know, even

826
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 5: though I grew up in Maryland.

827
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 4: You know, cal Ripkin was a big deal, but like

828
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 4: going firstball, Memorial Stadium back in the day, this was

829
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 4: pre Camden Yards.

830
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 3: Was rap totally.

831
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 4: And also it was far away. I mean, people think

832
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 4: Maryland everyone lives near Baltimore. I live nowhere near Baltimore.

833
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 4: I lived like, you know, a couple of blocks from

834
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 4: the DC border. So for me, like it was all

835
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 4: DC teams and we didn't have much. So when I

836
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 4: moved here to LA, it was the first time I

837
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 4: felt like, oh man, this could be my team.

838
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 3: So what's your NFL team's Washington Commanders.

839
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 4: Washington Commanders and then you know, Wizards Capitals or as

840
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 4: I like to still call them, the Bullets.

841
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 5: Yes, because that is the team I grew up blaking.

842
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 5: But then yeah, Dodgers for sure.

843
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 3: Okay for baseball, I mean, I unfortunately stuck with a

844
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 3: lot of bad New York teams. Knicks have won nothing

845
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: in my.

846
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 5: I think that's because of you.

847
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 3: Actually, probably Jets have definitely won nothing in my lifetime.

848
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 5: How did that happen? By the way, I just.

849
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: Picked the Jets because I'm one of these like counterintuitive

850
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 3: moved to DC and every kid's like Washington Redskins. At

851
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 3: the time, I was like, I don't want to root

852
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 3: for them. I'm rooting for the Jets. I was born

853
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 3: in New York. Giants were good. I like to pick

854
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: a loser and ride them to the top. But we

855
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: haven't got there yet, not yet to the top. Maybe

856
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 3: Arch Manning will get us there all right. Coming up next,

857
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 3: unbelievable quotes coming out about the Lakers being better without Lebron.

858
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 3: It is a little crazy. We'll talk about that next