WEBVTT - Checking in from the NFL Combine | Bears, etc. Podcast 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.640 Right justin middle of the field for fifteen bring Russ 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:05.040 in front of a leading. 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:05.760 Lions and his wife. 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:08.960 I am Jeff Jonihac, which is not done. 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:13.800 What was like playing for Coachy Boddom. 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:16.560 I don't want to answer any questions like that. Sixty 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:25.480 one yards? What's Sunday stroll for? Justin field? Yes. 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:28.479 Bears et cetera brought to you by Miller Lte with 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.400 the voices of the Bears, Jeff Joniac and Tom Thayer. 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.800 Well, we have reached the pinnacle of podcast numbers. It 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:39.839 is the Tom Thayer, Olden Krutz, Jack Samborn, Episode fifty 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.240 seven of The Bears et Cetera podcast with Super Bowl 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:46.360 winning Bears guard Tom Thayer. I'm Jeff Joniak. I'm coming 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:49.839 to you from the scouting combine in Indianapolis. Tom. I 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:53.519 believe this is my twenty seventh combine out of the 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:57.240 last twenty eight years. It's been crazy. I've enjoyed it. 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:00.240 I've learned a lot. Wish you were here. You were 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.080 a player, so you've been involved with plenty of combines. 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:05.640 Today was a big day for the Bears media and 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.240 the fans. They heard from general manager Ryan Poles. We're 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.240 gonna hear that entire fifteen minutes with the media. I 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.039 wish he had a decision, wish he had news, but 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:17.240 there's a long way in Tom. Frankly, it would be 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.440 egregious to just say, Okay, this is what we're doing. 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:24.040 They gotta meet these guys, they gotta explore, they gotta listen, 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.200 they gotta listen, probably twice as much as they speak 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.560 in these situations, and see what's offered out there. How 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:32.320 do you how do you put that on a bundle? 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:34.640 Well, I'm going to analogize it for you. And I 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.760 don't know if you're ever a fan of watching the 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.679 World Series of Poker. Now, when you get down to 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.280 the final table and you have all these guys that 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:45.760 are competing for millions of dollars in first place position, 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.360 there's a lot of conversation there and nothing has ever said. 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.480 I'm not gonna tip you on my hand, I'm not 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.000 gonna keep you any information. I'm not gonna tell you 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.720 what card I'm looking for. And that's when I was 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.360 listening to Riot Poles and listen, I really respect the 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:03.960 heck out of Ryan Pulls and the way he speaks 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:08.640 to the media because he's never searching for words, he's 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:12.600 never looking for answers, he's never avoiding eye contact. But 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:15.320 he's not gonna tell you anything. And I think that's 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:18.880 the way every general manager rides through the combine, unless 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:21.000 you're at the bottom of the barrel and you're trying 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.919 to pick everybody's brain to see if there's any information 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.480 that can help you. But Ryan is not going to 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:32.600 help anybody until he does his due diligence. He does 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:36.040 he you know, he's got his representatives that do nice 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:39.320 investigative work, and then it'll all come out on the 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:40.320 day of the draft. 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.639 Yeah, you know, or much before that, involving if they're 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.040 going to stick with Justin or are they're gonna draft somebody? 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:48.200 Are they gonna keep both and work their way around that. 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.440 But you know, he's as transparent as they come though 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.920 at the general manager position. From my experience, he doesn't 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:57.360 need to tell you everything. But he does tell you 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:00.480 his process. He's not shy about that. There are others 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.600 that don't even give you that much detail. And by 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.960 the way, this episode of Bears, etc. Brought to you 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.200 by Miller Lite, So like you, I have a ton 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:08.880 of respect for him and his staff. And what they're 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:13.079 doing here. This is rare, it's happened. Jacksonville the most 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.480 recent one to have first round picks back to back 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:17.400 years that are the number one pick in the draft. 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.359 But in terms of also having to make a decision 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:22.560 on a former number one quarterback that has done a 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.320 lot of nice things in the National Football League and 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.760 is one of its most dynamic athletes that is still 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:32.680 in your possession and what you could possibly do in 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.400 many different cases. I know Ryan used the term hundreds 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:40.000 of scenarios, and there may be there may be that 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:41.960 many scenarios, right. 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.560 You know, what I really liked is the line that 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.960 he referenced Jeff King, one of his scouts, is using 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.640 when he's describing the quarterback. 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:52.840 Artist or surgeon, you can kind of see who's the 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:55.600 artist that's really creative, doesn't draw within the lines. And 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:57.640 then there's more of the surgeons who are like the 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:01.000 Brady's and the Peyton's Peyton Manning reference there, and that 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.760 is true. And he does talk about a little bit about, 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:06.839 you know, justin fields and Caleb Williams, the comparisons there 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.520 and arm angles and where they throw the ball from 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.360 a lot of ad lib in both of their games. 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.400 But we see on tape at USC and Oklahoma in 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.039 his two and a half seasons there at those two 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:22.839 colleges that this quarterback does have some magician to him 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:26.160 for sure. And I don't know where's the value in 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.000 the magician of the surgeon Towny. 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:30.560 Well, you know to me. And when you look at 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.159 Caleb Williams in his last year of college, he played 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:36.800 with a very passive offensive line, so protection was never 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.760 a guarantee. So a lot of times when you're looking 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.839 at a surgeon, you're trying to make the best of 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:46.279 what's offered to you, and so it wasn't going okay, 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.720 I can guarantee myself in a hostile environment that I'm 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:53.520 going to have five or six seconds to look at downfield, 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:55.320 I'm gonna have to get out get the ball out 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.039 of my hands immediately, and sometimes it can be with 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.479 pressure in my face. So then we add, you know, 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.920 computes to what type of arm angle you're going to use. 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:06.440 And again just the reference by Jeff King, I thought 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.280 it was it was a good explanation of what a 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:10.240 quarterback can be. 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.280 Yeah, well, why don't we take a listen right now? 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.920 The fifteen minutes with Bear's general manager Ryan Poles here 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:18.839 from Indianapolis or the scouting combine, dressing all topics, including 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:22.720 kicking off with congratulations to the newest Bears Hall of famers. 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.880 All right, so I'll jump right in kind of update 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.119 on topics that have happened since the last time I spoke. 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.719 So first, I just want to congratulate all of our 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:32.159 guys that got into the Hall of Fame. I know 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.080 our fans have been waiting, and they've been waiting for 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:36.920 a long time, so I know the entire organization's really 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.800 excited for them. FLU hit it yesterday. Excited about our 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:44.240 coaching staff we've put together moving forward. Shane and Eric 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.800 and the rest of the crew were in good hands. 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:48.920 They're going to do a really good job and coach 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:53.159 hit on all the topics, teachers, communicators. Shane's got a 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.320 really good feel for both the run in the past game. 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.280 I really do adapt and adjusting the things that we're 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.039 looking for. So we're I'm really pumped about that. Cody 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.440 and Eddie, I know we put out a piece on them, 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:05.919 but just want to say thank you to them for 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:08.479 what they've done for the Bears. We felt like it 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.440 was the right time to give them opportunity to go 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.240 test the market see what's out there for them. I 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.240 want to do right by them and do it as 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.599 early as possible so they can put their plans in place, 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.559 but really thankful for their leadership and everything they've brought 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:25.479 to the organization Jalen Johnson. In the process of getting 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:28.919 Jalen Johnson done, conversations are going well at this time. 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.760 We feel like we've done a really good job kind 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:36.359 of coming to the table strong, showing the respect that 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.880 he's due just in terms of his production jew his career, 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.320 and really an emphasis on the turnovers that he created 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:45.200 this past year. Our expectation is that's going to continue 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.840 to go as he's with the Bears. When it say 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.880 coming strong, it means cash flows are strong, guarantees are strong, 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:56.679 the term is strong. For him being hit with his age, 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:58.680 there's a really good opportunity for him to go back 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.800 to the market again and continue to earn money and 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:03.640 play well, and hopefully that's what it bears for a 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.120 long period of time. So I'm excited about that. Like 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.400 I've said about those deals all the time, it takes 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.200 two to tango, and you got to find a place 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.040 that everyone feels comfortable with. So I feel really good 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:18.920 about that situation. Now the hot topic the first pick 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:23.760 quarterback situation. Contrary to reports out there, I have no 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:27.640 master plan to present everyone today. This is opportunity for 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:31.720 us to continue to gather information, learn about the different 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:35.520 players in the draft, listen to what opportunities could come up, 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:37.640 and then at the end of the day, we're gonna 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.640 make the best decision that we can for the Chicago Bears. 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.360 It will not be based on fear of what could 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.720 happen with this and what could happen with that. We're 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.200 gonna put our information together and make the best decision 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:49.680 because at the end of the day, we'll always throw 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.200 our decision making against kind of our core kind of deal, 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.880 which is win championships in sustained success for a long 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:57.600 period of time. There's a lot that goes into that, 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:01.200 but we're excited to gather that information and create clarity 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:02.480 as you go along. 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:06.280 What is what is your if you decide to draft 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:09.800 a quarterback? What is your motivation to trade justin before 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.360 free agency starts, knowing that there might be a premium moment. 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:16.320 Yeah, again, it just depends on what opportunities pop up, 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.480 I will say this. I think you guys know me 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:23.440 well enough now I do if we go down that road, 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:25.800 I want to do right by Justin as well. No 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.480 one wants to live in gray. I know that's uncomfortable. 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.680 I wouldn't want to be in that situation either. So 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:35.320 we'll gather the information, will move as quickly as possible. 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:37.760 We're not gonna be in a rush, and see what 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:39.880 presents itself and what's best for the organization. 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:42.640 Did you talk to him, I know he've made those 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:44.960 comments last week about kind of living in limbo on this. 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.760 If you had conversations with him about where you guys 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:49.080 are at right now in that process. 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:51.839 Yeah, So I've always felt and I told told him 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.520 this after the season when we had our exit meetings, 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:58.840 that you know, transparency and communication is key in these moments, 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.560 and I told them we will do that. So I've 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:03.400 been in contact with his team and it kind of 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.760 let him let them know like what we're looking at, 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.640 how things might play out, and that will continue to 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:12.920 communicate as we move forward. Again, I understand how uncomfortable 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.880 that is for him, But again, like I told him, 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:17.760 and he understands. I think he said it the other 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:19.760 day too. It's part of this business. It is a 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:23.560 unique situation, but yeah, I'll continue that communication, right. 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.320 I've been part of the evaluation process in Kansas City 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.079 in twenty seventeen with my homes. How does that experience 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:32.599 helped shape the way you go about evaluating quarterbacks and 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:34.080 things you do in that regard. 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.960 Yeah, My background is I'm really fortunate to kind of 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.800 see multiple phases and different types of processes put in 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:46.280 place with you know, bringing a quarterback in from a 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:50.880 trade to drafting. So again, just there's a process that 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.160 we've learned in terms of tape watching and getting the 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:55.240 know guys and bringing them in and spending time with 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.640 them and feel comfortable with that setup. So I can 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:00.000 definitely tap into that experience. 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.760 In terms of Jal with Johnson said things are going 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.040 well with him, do you think it's more likely that 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.400 there is a long term deal with him than the 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:08.200 franchise tag? 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.199 I hope, So I'd like to avoid the franchise tag 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.080 for him. I think there's a really good space for 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:18.080 us to find a middle ground. Again, we always have 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.920 the tag to use, but I really would like to 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:22.959 get something done long time with them. Ran. 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:24.960 How do you view philosophically, how do you view the 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.640 draft assets you'd have picking first and nine, you would 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:31.560 theoretically be targeting star players if you catch those picks, yep, 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:35.719 versus converting those into more picks, but they are lesser picks. 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.000 Yeah, that goes into the equation, right, I mean you 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:42.400 gotta look at what's there in that area. In terms 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.800 of drafting, again, you gotta listen to the trade Like 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.960 you don't trade back one, trade back, two, trade back fifteen. 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.600 Like that changes the dynamic based on where the board 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:53.840 is set up. I think I talked about that last year. 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.440 Wind up counting the guys in certain spaces that we 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.520 feel like can be impact players for our team. So 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:03.920 that goes into equation as well. But I think it's 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.199 a really good opportunity to improve our football team. And 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.000 the other thing is like very open and understand that 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.920 draft picks are just opportunity, right, you got to capture that. 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.120 You got to be right with your draft picks. So 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:15.320 we understand that as well. 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.520 The process of evaluating the quarterbacks obviously at the top 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:20.000 of the draft, but we've done a lot of misses 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:23.360 a quarterback. Yeah, what have you maybe learned about what 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:25.959 goes into making a player, you know, a great quarterback 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:26.640 at the next level. 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.800 Yeah, there's a lot there, right, It's like, what's the 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.120 infrastructure look like, what's around the player? I think that's key, 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:37.040 and I think that's probably mess with the numbers a 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:38.679 lot when you're talking about the top of the draft. 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.240 I think that's what makes our situations unique and why 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.520 we have to really do a deep dive into it. 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:46.880 I think the person is a huge part. I've talked 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.360 about that a lot. What's the makeup the leadership? How 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.000 do they handle pressure? How do they handle pressure in 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.319 a big city like ours? So a lot of those 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:55.000 factors go in. 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.559 You weren't going to make a big reveal today in 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:00.719 terms of I have you nothing? 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:02.760 Yeah, no, I wish I did. 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:03.520 Yeah, I know that's. 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:07.280 I totally understand that. 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:11.040 But do you have an idea like how what's the 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.680 percentage of what you think you know right now ahead 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.520 of the combine? Like how important is the combine in 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:19.840 making the decision right now? 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:23.440 It's like one hundred different scenarios that you go down 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.320 and try to plot out, and you're forecasting forward to 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.640 see what's gonna work out and probabilities and and things 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:30.960 like that. But at the end of the day, the 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.920 human being part of getting to know someone, getting to 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.240 know a group of people is really going to determine 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:39.959 it and out There's gonna be options that pop up 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:42.439 all the time that you don't see coming. I think 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.400 I said it last year, like something will happen at 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.679 some point in the next few months that no one expects, 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:49.760 So you got to be on your toes for that. 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:51.560 So the picture will change as we go. 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.200 You trade that mindset this year with the number one 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.640 overall picks and what you had last year at this time. 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:06.360 No, I mean, it's it's unique, right, but I would 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.240 say our approach is exactly the same in terms of 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.880 we got to look at every option and determine what 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:15.560 is best for our team. Obviously, we chose to trade 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:19.800 back last year and I think that that helped our 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:23.600 team out a lot. So again, we'll do a deep 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.240 dive and see how it plays out. 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.840 Would you evaluating the prospects if you can gathering information, 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.440 Do you have any concern at all that Caleb Williams 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:35.199 or the team around you don't want to playdom. 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.360 No, No, no concerns about that at all. I would 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.520 love to know why if that was the case. Like 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:42.920 I said, I think as a young quarterback and I've 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.600 been around it, the infrastructure is important, and I think 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.280 we've made really good progress in terms of having really 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.880 good infrastructure for whoever were to come in or justin 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:53.160 Worth to stay here as well. 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.360 In terms of your quarterback evaluation when you were in 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:59.160 Kansas City, Cliff Kingsbury said that, you know, Patrick Mahomes 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.120 and Caleb Williams are eerily similar. 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:02.880 When you watch the tape, do you see. 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:07.000 That there's pieces, there's pieces that are similar. Obviously the 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.120 one that sends out to everyone's just different arm angles. 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.800 That's a unique trait. Not a lot of guys can 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:17.320 do that. I give Jeff King, he's not my team credit. 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:19.920 He painted a picture of you know, there's two types 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:24.280 of quarterbacks. There's artists and then there's surgeons. So within 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.320 that group you can kind of see who's the artist 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:30.360 create that's really creative. It doesn't draw within the lines 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.160 where there's more of surgeons who are you know, like 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:36.640 your typical like the Brady's and Peyton So we kind 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:38.480 of branch them out of those buckets and go from there. 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.800 So that's where they're they're similar percentage. You prefer with 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.400 artists and surgeons, no winners. 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:48.080 You do move off the number one pet. We've heard crazy, 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.320 you've heard history and all those adjectives used for the 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:51.840 amount of compensation you need. 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:53.160 What what are you looking for? 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.920 Yeah, it's hard to say right now, but it's it's 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:01.120 got to help our organization significantly to to move around 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.520 because we saw what it did last year and I'm 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:07.640 looking for that type of return to continue to improve 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:08.080 a football. 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.960 Would you want to know what you're going. 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:11.920 To do tomorrow. 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:14.560 Before? 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:17.960 I would love to know as soon as possible. I mean, 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:19.840 I mean I would love to know, But I know 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:23.840 that's not how the process works. You know, there's sure 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:26.840 before phagency would be good. Like I said, I'm also 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:30.280 taking you know, if we were to do something with 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.960 Justin like I want to do right by him, and 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.200 I know, again living in that gray space, you would 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.640 want to do something sooner rather than later. But just 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:40.960 like I talked about contracts, it takes two teams to 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.120 figure that out. But at the same time, we're also 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.040 trying to figure out the draft process as well, So 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:48.600 there's a lot of different things with different timelines going 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:50.520 and that's what makes it a little right of your 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:51.960 process over the next six weeks. 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.320 What do you see as the best ways for you 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.760 to evaluate the wiring of quarterbacks. 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.560 And what what do you like to do to learn. 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:01.240 Who they are? Yeah, spend time. Spend time. That's I 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:05.560 mean any type of relationship, you know, it's it's time 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:10.520 on task and just kind of getting to know the personality. 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.520 There's been a ton of information gathering from my team 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:17.480 just in terms of teammates, coaches, things like that, but 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:19.800 you got to spend time with another person really understand 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:21.880 the wiring are What are you trying to feel out 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.280 in that practice? What are you looking for from that? Yeah, 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:30.160 you look for examples of dependability, You're looking selflessness, leadership, ownership, 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:32.600 you know, like I think it's hard these days to 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.240 find people that you know, pay this is wrong and 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.320 it's like, yeah, it was wrong. This is what I 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:38.920 have to do to correct it rather than just kind 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:42.040 of besing your way through it. So, yeah, with time 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.680 on task and spending time with these guys, who'll get 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:45.520 to know some of those things. 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.880 Are you expecting Are you expecting a busier combine than 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.120 usually Like I'm imagining you're gonna be a pretty popular guy. 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:53.400 So everybody wants to buy your dinner, and you talk 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:55.800 about all these different assets that you like trade. I mean, 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:57.440 is it going to be a different combine for you? 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:00.000 Yeah, it feels that way. Yeah. Has it already started? 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.440 Oh yeah, my phone will stop because. 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:06.400 As people how aggressive are people with fishing for information 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:07.640 from other teams to see what. 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:08.320 You know to do with that? 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.639 Yeah, it's you know, it starts slow. We were at 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.920 Senior Bowl. I know people are kind of poking around that. 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.600 I haven't had like big time conversations with anyone, but 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.920 everyone wants to, you know, take a temperature of what's 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:24.760 going on here. Yeah. Yeah, How would you. 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.679 Say last year's trade worked out for you guys? 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.480 For the Panthers and even Houston that didn't get the 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:31.200 number one dat. 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:34.960 Yeah, I'll only comment on us. I thought it worked 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:38.720 out really well, just adding two good players like Darnelle 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:42.360 and DJ. Had no idea this would work out where 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:44.520 would be the first overall pick? But I would say 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:48.400 that's successful and then you know a future too as well, 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:50.920 So it worked out well for us. You will keep 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:52.400 growing up with that. 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:56.359 Universally loved Justin and by this team. Have you thought 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.399 about what that conversation is going to be like if 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:00.439 you do train and what you're gonna like delivering that 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:01.520 message to the team. 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:05.000 Yeah, you know, he's a leader. Every everything our guys 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:08.080 have said, it's true and not surprise our guys have 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:09.880 said what they have said. I feel the same way, 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:12.919 and I think sometimes this whole thing gets you know, 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:18.200 justin versus another person, and I have to look at 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.920 it a little bit differently. I take that into a fact. 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.560 That's why the person is so important when we evaluate 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:27.200 other people that would come in that position. But also 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.240 it's my job to think of the long term and 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:30.920 and a lot of our guys kind of don't don't 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:32.760 see that that's not their job to do that, and 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.840 they defend their guy, which I think speaks volume volumes 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:37.000 about our culture and our lock correct. 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:40.000 They've made traits before with that causes their anxiety that 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.480 comes with that for someone who wouldn't have to deliver 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:43.359 that sort of news. 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:47.280 No, because I have faith in our ability to communicate 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.800 with our guys, and when we do that, I think 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.960 they'll know that it's in the best interest of the team. 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:56.800 And I think as we've moved along here. I think 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:59.960 that the trust factors there that clear in good hands 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:01.200 with However. 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:06.719 We decided when wise for the college quarterbacks, do you 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.080 really need to get all the way to private workouts 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.960