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Speaker 1: tweet Week four in review, our Pack twelve Power Rankings,

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Speaker 1: and Brandon Gray, USC has a survivor series for their

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Speaker 1: coaching job and does Mario Cristo Ball go too far?

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Speaker 1: I'm George Rice Stir. He's Ralph Ampston and this is

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Speaker 1: dot com. So, Ralph, we had a whole plan for

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Speaker 1: how we were gonna start the episode, and then you

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Speaker 1: said the words to me, George, check your Twitter right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Check University of Arizona Football Twitter right now,

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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, okay, it'll be something, you know, cool.

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Speaker 1: But never in a million years did I expect it

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Speaker 1: to be this great. You did not, even with your overselling,

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Speaker 1: with the enthusiasm in your voice, Ralph. It the greatness

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Speaker 1: that was delivered to me was even better than that.

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Speaker 1: So tell the people if they haven't seen it at

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Speaker 1: this point, which they probably have, if they if they

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Speaker 1: followed it back to all apostles, podcasts or whatever, can

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Speaker 1: you read the people the tweet that you sent me? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: So we had to delay the start of podcast by

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes because I've been crying, laughing, and you've been

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Speaker 1: looking for the perfect gift to tweet to tweet. But

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Speaker 1: at one pm on Tuesday, September, Arizona Football sent out

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Speaker 1: this tweet this double siren emoji and in all caps

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Speaker 1: it says walk on tryout. For the walk on tryout

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Speaker 1: packet and more information, please visit the link below hashtag

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Speaker 1: it's personal hashtag bear down now. This is a common

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Speaker 1: tweet that you would see three to four weeks before

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Speaker 1: a season starts. Correct, not a tweet. I've never seen Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 1: If Vanderbilt had it last year when they were looking

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Speaker 1: for a kicker specifically right. This was sent out four

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Speaker 1: weeks into the season after losing the Northern Arizona University

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Speaker 1: for the first time since nine two. They they're taking

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Speaker 1: not even for like two more weeks. This tryout is

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, October twelve at six pm. I would give anything, George,

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Speaker 1: for Tucson Media to make this like a giant celebration,

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Speaker 1: on the way in and on the way out. Dude,

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Speaker 1: So here are the requirements for the walk on according

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Speaker 1: to the article, So they put a whole full walk

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Speaker 1: on pack it together. It is on the Arizona website.

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Speaker 1: It says so he told you the time. So Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: Arizona Stadium. Packets must be emailed in all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: So if you go to the Arizona website if you're interested.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing. The requirements full time University of

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Speaker 1: high school, coach, name, phone number, all of this stuff. Dude,

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Speaker 1: through mid season, walk on trying. They're they're starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: University of Arizona has actually had some pretty good quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: things even worse. Your best player is a former walk

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Speaker 1: on in Stanley berry Hill. This is a bad situation.

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Speaker 1: The cupboard is bear Kevin, someone's to blame for this,

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Speaker 1: Arizona State, you have to retweet this right and be like,

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Speaker 1: please please help them calling all Arizona people. Uh, your

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Speaker 1: Because the University of Arizona. I was sorry, Alabama. It

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Speaker 1: was R. J. Young who put it out. Alabama hasn't

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Speaker 1: not like relegated to just college football in the Pac twelve.

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Speaker 1: This type of stuff is going on everywhere, and you

427
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: know that there's plenty of probably violent interactions that go

428
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: unreported completely because they don't want it to get out there. Yep.

429
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: As you had a player take a bullet at a

430
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: club like four years ago, he got kicked off the

431
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 1: team six months later for stealing wallets out of a dorm.

432
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,719
Speaker 1: But like a SU had a player get shot not

433
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 1: that long ago. If you remember back to win Arc

434
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: like college days or just after you were in the NFL,

435
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: a SU had a player shoot and kill somebody else. Yep,

436
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: you know it's Lauren Lauren Wade, I think, but it's

437
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it's it seems to be a

438
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: perpetual thing. I don't know if it feels like it's

439
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: happening more or less, but I know that there's a

440
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: lot of people out there. I heard a story last

441
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: year of a Pack twelve interaction that involved a gun

442
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: that never got out that like that. There's stuff going

443
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: on and p bowl carrying weapons because they think they

444
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: need it because it's part of a lifestyle. I see

445
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: some players that I follow on Instagram out shooting shotguns

446
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: in the desert just as part of the thing they

447
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: do in their spare time. And I'm not gonna say

448
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: that that's the wrong thing, but am I gonna am i?

449
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: Am I thinking in the back of my head that

450
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: if this is what they do on a on a

451
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: UM Saturday in the off season, do you think that

452
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: they're got something in the glove box when they're out

453
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: and about. Yep, yeah, of course of course they do.

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00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: So now onto that game. Now, so Washington State Utah.

455
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: This was a game that was marred by terrible quarterback play,

456
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: Ralph terrible quarterback play. Washington State ended up having to

457
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: start Jared Garantino to transfer from Tennessee, and he looked

458
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: like he did at Tennessee. You'll make some good throws,

459
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: some terrible throws. And then Cameron Rising for Utah wasn't

460
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: much better. And had it not been for Jared guarant

461
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: Guarantano's bad quarterback play and ultimately it would have gone

462
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: way worse. No, no, I'm sorry that the game would

463
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: have been much better for Washington State had they not

464
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: committed three interceptions. Yeah. Um, Washington State is one in

465
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: three and has had a lead, I believe in the

466
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: fourth quarter of all three of their losses. Yes, yes, yes,

467
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: they have Ralph they have found a way to lose

468
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: games because they were up thirteen to they were up

469
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: thirteen and ten at the start of the fourth quarter

470
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: and lost thirteen and twenty four and they didn't score

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00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: after the third quarter. Um, they did not have a

472
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: lead in the fourth quarter of the USC game. They

473
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: had a lead in the second half the of the

474
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Speaker 1: USC game. But but it stands to reason that they

475
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: built a lead on on everybody that they played. And

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00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: I don't know why they keep running out of gas. Obviously,

477
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: Max Borgi getting hurt in the first half of this

478
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: game wasn't great, but I thought Dion McIntosh did a

479
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: good job. Um, having to carry more of the load there.

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00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: You don't want to have to throw thirty six times

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00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: against Utah's defensive backs. You just don't. That's not ever

482
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: gonna work out in your favor, especially if you're not

483
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna sound mean, but a above average quarterback,

484
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: you know. Obviously, Jared Guarantano, the offense has looked a

485
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: lot different when he's out there than Jaden Delora because

486
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: Jade Delora is able to move um and make up

487
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: for some of the what what Washington State lacks on

488
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: the offensive. Line, but he's very small and he's not

489
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: super durable because of that. Um, this is a bad game.

490
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: I mean, if you combine the two quarterbacks stat lines

491
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: one touchdown, three interceptions, thirty eight of passing, bad, bad

492
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: quarterback play all over the PAC twelve, but especially in

493
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: this game when you have two quarterbacks that started the

494
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: year as the number two quarterback and they're out there

495
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: playing like backup quarterbacks and ultimately the turnovers make the

496
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: difference for Utah. Utah should not have won this game.

497
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: Utah fumbled seven times. Seven. I've never seen a stat

498
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: like that ever in my life. Yea. There were times

499
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: during the game when Kyle Winningham looked like he wanted

500
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: to be I haven't tweeted out a picture of him

501
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: just like rubbing his temples. He oh man, he looked

502
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: like he was done. The part that they won the game, though, right,

503
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: is that they won the game and it was still

504
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: this gross. Yes. T J. Pledger had a good run,

505
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: had a couple of good runs. Um. Cam Rising actually

506
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: did some stuff in with his legs. Jacquinn and Jackson,

507
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: who is currently their backup quarterback with Charlie Brewer quitting

508
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: the team, he came in he got a rushing touchdown,

509
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: so that was kind of cool. Um. But in the

510
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: passing game, honestly, if it wasn't for their tight ends,

511
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: they did nothing. Britain Covey only had two catches for

512
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: eight yards. I think he had a fumble. Uh, what

513
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: a mess. Somebody had to win. This is gonna be

514
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: what the Arizona Colorado games. Like, someone is going to

515
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: have to win. Are you are you sure? I am yeah?

516
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: I mean there there there has to be some way.

517
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: There has to be some way that they that they

518
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: could find a way to tie this game. Right, there's

519
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: no ties, right? Is there ties in college? But I

520
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: don't think there's ties there there would they would find

521
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: a way to do it. Hey, you know how like

522
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: English Soccer League, I don't know anything about what's call

523
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: it football, I don't know Premier League whatever. You know

524
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: how they can loan players. Yes, I wonder if we

525
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: could do something like that, like a pactwel program where

526
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: your backup quarterback is not gonna play, but you still

527
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: wanted to be on your team for a somebody who's

528
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: not on your schedule, like like like alabamaa loan a

529
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: quarterback to Arizona for like the developmental purposes, and then

530
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: he come back next year. That way, that way you

531
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: can loan them to the JV program. You can loan

532
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: all your freshmen or some of your freshmen to Arizona

533
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: the way that they could get some experience and then uh,

534
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: and then they can come back to you next next

535
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: season as full grown players. Yeah like imagine, and then

536
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: all you have to do is give up one scholarship

537
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: for it, so like, and then the loaner gets one.

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00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: So let's say that u c l A wanted to

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00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: give Ethan Garvers to University of Arizona for the year. Yeah, start, Uh,

540
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: Arizona would go down to only two for scholarships for

541
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: the following cycle, and then U c l A would

542
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: get twenty six. You may have come up with something, Ralph.

543
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: I liked it that what we do here, all right?

544
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: I like it alright. The next game up, I mean,

545
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: because that was just a disaster, and neither one of

546
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: these teams is any good. Uh. The next game up

547
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: in chronological order was U c l A at Stanford.

548
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: And this game was funny to me because I picked

549
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: U c l A to win this game. I knew

550
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: that they were gonna win um, but Stanford put up

551
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: a good fight, particularly in the second half, because it

552
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: was twenty one seven at halftime, and then Stanford came

553
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: out with a few big plays in the passing game.

554
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: But this game was funny to me because it was

555
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: about Dorian Thompson Robinson because he ended up kind of

556
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: hurt at the end of the game. And my wife

557
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, the drama, dtr with all the drama

558
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: and dramatic. Yeah. Us and and she said, and she said, dude,

559
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: he watched Jake Hayner get all this praise from last

560
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: week put playing hurt and he was like, I need this,

561
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: I need this, I need a little bit of this.

562
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: And she and she said, I think I think he's hurt.

563
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: But it was a little drama on top because every

564
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: time he threw, he threw a touchdown, and then he

565
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: died through through a great past and then he died

566
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: again through another great pass, and then he died and

567
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: he just and then he had a chance to run

568
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: out of bounds and he didn't. He found a way

569
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 1: to take a hit through it. And she was like, dude,

570
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: he's fine. Anybody who's really hurt that bad. What is

571
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: unwilling to take hits. And I was like, huh, he

572
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: looked for sure hurt. I mean, he got stuck a

573
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: couple of times, like he he looked, he looked hurt. However, however, big, However,

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00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: the way he was holding his arm, it was impossible

575
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: to tell what was wrong. Yeah, it looked looked like

576
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: it kept dislocating or something. But I'm like, but it

577
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: looked like a bicep or something. But the way he

578
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: was holding his arm bicep out, just letting it hang. Also,

579
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 1: that was his passing arm, George, after he just threw

580
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: some strikes. Yeah, so then he goes, yeah, goes out

581
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 1: of the game. Ethan Garbage comes in. They bring Dorian

582
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson back in. He throws a touchdown pass which

583
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 1: essentially put the game away. And then after the game

584
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: he went back and he sat on the bench with

585
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: his bicep out arm hanging, And I was like, what

586
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: could that be? Like when in my life have I

587
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: ever been hurt in a way where where that's what

588
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm doing And and and what I came up with

589
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: was a dead arm, like if you get hit right

590
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: on the tricep or something like that, Like he like

591
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: he was having a nerve issue or something. Yeah, So

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00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, he probably got dead armed. That's

593
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: got to be it. And then at some point this

594
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: week he said it's okay. It wasn't my throwing arm,

595
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: and that's the most gas. No, he didn't say that.

596
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 1: I swear to God, I swear on my entire family.

597
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: I saw him. Let me see if I can find this,

598
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: because I saw people commenting on it, and I was like, wait,

599
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 1: no way, there's absolutely no way. Okay, hold on uh

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00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: ben bolch l A Times Dorian Thompson Robinson said it

601
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: was his shoulder and arm issue. He said it was

602
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: a shoulder slash arm issue in his non throwing shoulder

603
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: slash arm run no way, no way, where's this tweet.

604
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send it to you right now. Right he

605
00:37:51,200 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: was bro it was he was holding it. I've never

606
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: seen it more obvious. What was hurt in my entire life.

607
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: It's his arm. I couldn't figure out what about his arm,

608
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: but it was his right arm. And I remember even

609
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: thinking in the moment, like is he lefty? How the

610
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,479
Speaker 1: hell is he going back out there? Then he threw

611
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: the ball with that arm through the touchdown pass and

612
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: then he went back to the bench and he was

613
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: holding his throwing arm. Do you see what I'm talking

614
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: You see the tweet? Yes, I see it. Broke, dude,

615
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: that's Donald Trump level tweet right there. I mean, that's

616
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: Donald Trump level right right right there. No, no, no, no,

617
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't. I didn't say that. That's funny,

618
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: incredible gas lighting. And so so here's my question. Here's

619
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: my question. A, right, are you ready for this? U?

620
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: C l A plays a s U next week? Okay,

621
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: A s U straight up lied about the availability of

622
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: Chip train him like he's been in a boot this

623
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: whole time, and they keep saying like he's going to

624
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: play this week he's in a boot, not like so

625
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: they're lying like they're lying, right, which is games and chip,

626
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: which is part of football whatever. But like the media exists,

627
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: and you do this enough, people are gonna pointed out. Right,

628
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: so we have Chip Kelly and her Med Woids about

629
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: to go to head to head next week. Dorian Thompson

630
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: Robinson says it was not my throwing arm, which is

631
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: a lot right. A. SU follows up by saying, Hey,

632
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: we're totally going to have Chase Lucas and chip train

633
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: them available for this game, and then Chase Lucas quote

634
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: tweets and says see you in l A. But like,

635
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: is anybody telling that, Like, are we going to see

636
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: a game with no Dorrian Thompson Robinson, no chip train

637
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: um and no cheese Lucas Dorian Thompson Robinson will will

638
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: be out there. I cannot speak for chip train him

639
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: and uh, Chase Lucas, like because a su already lied

640
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: once well duh, and Chase Lucas not playing against Colorado

641
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: was a surprise to me. Yeah, yeah, so will we

642
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: shall see. I mean he may be engaging in some

643
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: gamesmanship too, so we shall see. All right, what kind

644
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: of games when ship is that when you just tell

645
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: people you're someone that's like in a cast he just

646
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: at a that's like USC telling him, hey, Jackson, Jackson

647
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: dart because because you've had Dante Williams say he's day

648
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: to day or week to week or something. Yeah, I

649
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: guess the little Jackson dirt thing of them being coy. Yeah,

650
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just in the same breath of

651
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: Maria Christoval being like, hey, we don't duck people on injuries,

652
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: and then The next question was about justin flow, and

653
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: he's like, I don't know exactly, all right, Cow at

654
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: Washington Cow twenty four Washington. This game was lost in

655
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: overtime by Cow with a fumble on the one yard

656
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: line going in to go score in overtime. What was

657
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: your takeaway from this game? Because my biggest takeaway was

658
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: is that Jimmy Lake went to John Donovan and was

659
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: like last week before the Arkansas State game and was like,

660
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: whatever we're we're doing, we're not doing that anymore. You

661
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: ever gonna run the ball some because they ran it

662
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: thirty times. But that's a big departure from what they

663
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: had been doing with Dylan Morris in the way that

664
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: they had been playing offense. And this looks like much

665
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: more of a competent football team. You mean Sean McGrew

666
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: getting sixteen carries and scoring two touchdowns. Oh, that's that's

667
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: the one you wanted to play, right, Yes, yeah, because

668
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: he's he's good like that. That's what Washington fans have

669
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: been clamoring for him as well. Do he stood on

670
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: the sideline doing nothing for the first two weeks and

671
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: now he's played in the last past two weeks, and

672
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: I think he has four touchdowns. Yes, he does. They

673
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 1: didn't score four touchdowns in the first two weeks. Hey,

674
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,479
Speaker 1: it's a miracle. What what what happens when you start

675
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: doing the right things? No, No, it's it's it's infuriating.

676
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: It's infuriating. You should never a fan. This is the

677
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: worst feeling in the entire world. The worst feeling in

678
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: the entire world is being a fan of a football

679
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: team is being an outsider and watching somebody who gets

680
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: paid millions of dollars to do something and you say like, hey,

681
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: he should try this, and he's like no, and then

682
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: you watch him do it unsuccessfully for a little bit longer,

683
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: and you're like, you should really try this. It worked

684
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: last time he tried it, and they're like no, And

685
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: then when all else fails, they try it, they have success,

686
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: and then what are you supposed to Are you supposed

687
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: to have confidence? Like yeah, they finally listen, Like no,

688
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: Like that leaves a mark. It is insane. It is

689
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: insane to me that like you have washing because you

690
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: have Washington's entire fan base being like hey play Sean McGrew,

691
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: what the hell are you doing? And the coaching staff

692
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: be like, hey, we know what we're doing. It's like

693
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: watching a toddler try to put the circle block in

694
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: the triangle and you're like, hey, just let me help

695
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: you present, let me show you the right way to

696
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: do it. No, no, And then you show them and

697
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: then they look at you and they're like, oh, you

698
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: shouldn't have the same experience with a damn toddler and

699
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 1: with your head coach or your offensive coordinator. It doesn't

700
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: make any sense. And so John Donovan, who you just

701
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: brought up, just spoke to the media for the first

702
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: time this season. I'm gonna read you his quote, and

703
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: I want you to react to it. Okay, this is

704
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 1: Christian capele Um, who covers the University Washington for The Athletic,

705
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 1: tweeted this o C. John Donovan, meeting with the media today,

706
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: says he hasn't seen the criticism, but he knows it's there. Quote.

707
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: I understand the narrative. I'm a New York Mets fans,

708
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 1: so I read that stuff. I could probably assume what's

709
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: being said. I understand the nature of it all. He's

710
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: read it, he knows. Why do you think that they

711
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 1: haven't had him for media availability for the past three weeks?

712
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, they have two good

713
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: offensive performances. He's available for the media, and this week

714
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: they play Oregon State. He may not be available for

715
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: the media next week. Imagine coming out and be like, no,

716
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: I get it. Where the Mets? Yep, the most dysfunctional

717
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: franchise in all professional sports? That's us. I don't know.

718
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: What do you? What do you think of Cal? Because obviously,

719
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: like Washington won this game, they have lost over time

720
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: three games this year. They could easily be four O

721
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: as well. Do they lost? They lost to Nevada at

722
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: the end of the game. They were up in the

723
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. They lost to TCU in the end of

724
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: the game. They had an opportunity to tie on a

725
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: two point con version. They lost to Washington at the

726
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: end of the game. Yep, to walk me through, walk

727
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: me through that. Because I watched most of this game.

728
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: I did not go back and watch the overtime period.

729
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: What happened? Okay? So uh okay? So Cal had the

730
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: opportunity in in regulation, I believe too, to kick a

731
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 1: field goal to win the game. If I remember properly.

732
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me pull up the the play, the

733
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: play by play to make sure because they had the opportunity,

734
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: so you had, yeah, Cow score. Yeah. Cal had the

735
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: opportunity to kick, with the end of regulation a fifty

736
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: five yard field goal to win the game, and they missed.

737
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: They missed the field goal. And then it goes into

738
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 1: overtime and Washington scores caw caw wins the toss. Washington

739
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: goes down and go us to score. Cale drives all

740
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: the way way down, don't get any to any situation

741
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: is first down and goal. They hand the ball to

742
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: the running back and and then he fumbled at the

743
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: at the one yard line. Washington recovers game over. So yeah,

744
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: So that was the game, um, And it'll be interesting

745
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: to see our PACTWEL power rankings in just a few minutes.

746
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: The next game up Arizona nineteen Oregon forty one. The

747
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: score doesn't indicate what this game really looked like because

748
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: Oregon was up with twenty four to half. Yeah, and

749
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: then they had an opportunity to make it twenty seven

750
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: to ten, but Chris Hatsen spun the ball. Uh yeah,

751
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: and then the game got a little close. Oregan only

752
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: ran like two plays, two or three plays in the

753
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: third quarter, and one of them was a safety, and

754
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: so they gave him to two points. The game got

755
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 1: to what nineteen two, It was nineteen four, and then

756
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: Oregon just turned on the gas and it was twenty seven,

757
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it was forty one

758
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: to nineteen and they got five turned they got five

759
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: interceptions off off McLoud, and now they're leading the n

760
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,479
Speaker 1: C double A in turnover margin. What did you think

761
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: of this game? All I know is if you've got

762
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: somebody on your team who can average eighteen yards of care,

763
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 1: you should give them the ball more. Oh you're talking

764
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: about I only do that because I know what annoys you.

765
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: This felt like this felt like last year's offense. A

766
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: lot of quarterback runs, UM not really going heavy with

767
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: the running backs. I was not overly impressed with Oregon

768
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: in this game. If Jalen Red doesn't do that crazy

769
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: pinball sixty three yard touchdown reception his only touch of

770
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: the game, by the way, Uh, if he doesn't do that,

771
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: then this game is even closer and more of a

772
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: and more of a nail biter. That was a heck

773
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: of a play by a very very athletic player. UM

774
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: ten past completions in the whole game uh C, Jerry

775
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: Verdell only gets eleven carries. That that was intentional though.

776
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: They are saving him for the Stanford game because he's

777
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: been beat up a little bit, so he's on a

778
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: pitch count in some of these games that they that

779
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: they know that they're gonna win. Okay, well, I mean,

780
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: so you get your quarterback hit twelve extra times instead,

781
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: it seems shortsighted. You got him. Yeah, I just you

782
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: got seven Miggie on the roster. You got other running

783
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: backs on this roster, like Arizona is not gonna be

784
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: able to stop you. I was not. Yes, the score

785
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: does not indicate the fact that the talent gap was

786
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: was enormous like it was, it was enormous. This game

787
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: should have been fifty six. Two should have been And

788
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: I go back to the thing you said, there's gonna

789
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: be players on this team. And I know if you

790
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: win every week, it's not gonna matter as much. There's

791
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: gonna be players on this team to get Nancy if

792
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: you don't go out there against bad teams and complete

793
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: three passes. Yes, and I've said that the number of

794
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: completions Oregon needs to have every single week is twenty three.

795
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: That's the number that's gonna keep everybody happy, and and

796
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: have over thirty five rushes as well, So that's gonna

797
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: put you at like seventy some plays. But if you look,

798
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: Oregon only ran like fifties six fifty five fifty six plays,

799
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: so and twelve and ten for twenty one from your

800
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: quarterback is not gonna cut it. So they have to

801
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: do better as far as if they want to hold

802
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: onto some of this elite wide receiver talent. And I

803
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: know that there is a ceiling with Anthony Brown at

804
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: quarter quarterback. But but you know what, um, I if

805
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: my if my memory serves me correct, Actually I don't

806
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: even need to use my memory. I can literally just

807
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: go to the stats, which is uh the turnover margin,

808
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 1: and I don't want to pull it up because Oregon

809
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: is leading the nation in uh turnover margin. But that

810
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: will actually be interesting to see how the other teams

811
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: are stacking up as well. But do you do while

812
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 1: while I'm finding that, do you have any other thoughts

813
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: or comments on this game? Yeah? I mean, um, I

814
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: think Arizona has probably found the quarterback that's gonna work

815
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: for them because Jordan McLeod is able to get sixty

816
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: four yards on the ground, which means he's able to

817
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: keep some drives alive. Obviously, they're gonna want him to

818
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: cut down on the massive amount of interceptions, but they

819
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: were trying to throw their way back into the game. UM.

820
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: A lot of those camp the end. It's the best

821
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 1: they're gonna do that. Hopefully they find somebody with these

822
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: mid season tryouts, UM, because you just it's it's frustrating.

823
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,479
Speaker 1: Your guy Veron McKinley got another interception. He is well

824
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 1: on his He's putting together quite a special season. UM. Obviously,

825
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: the Chris Hudson Mario Cristobal interaction is something that we

826
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: can get into an hour later, because that was very

827
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: very interesting to me. Mario Crystal Ball going after Chris

828
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: Hudson on a catch that was on the way to

829
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: putt him in field goal range right before the half,

830
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: and then he spun the ball which hit him with

831
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: a fifteen yard penalty, which means they are not in

832
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: field goal range. They end up not getting points before

833
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: the half, and Mario Crystal bal lit into Chris Hudson

834
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: in front of everybody, to the point where your guy

835
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: Rod Gilmore even chastised him. UM. On the broadcast, and

836
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily agree. I don't think he needed to

837
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: throw his headset, but I thought that you don't have

838
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: that type of interaction with with a Star wide receiver

839
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: or a Star wide receiver in the making. You don't

840
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: have that type of interaction with him unless he knows

841
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: that he's wrong and you trust that he can hear.

842
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: The interaction was was fairly positive outside of a broken headset,

843
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: And then you think about it, he went right back

844
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: in like like, he played another twenty five plays in

845
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: the game, so it's not like he got bitched. He

846
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: just got yelled at. And I always judge these situations

847
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: by how I would react if this happened to my kid,

848
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: and I would have and I would have been yelling

849
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: at my own kid from from the stands, even though

850
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: that this is a stupid penalty anyway, like that should

851
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: not be a be a penalty, but everybody knows that

852
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: it is going to be a penalty, So you can't

853
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: do selfish things like like that. Um, but I just

854
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: want to point out the University of Arizona walk on

855
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: tryout tweet is up to three tweets. It has doubled

856
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: since we started this podcast. Nice. All right, I found

857
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: the stats for a turnover margin. So Oregon is leading

858
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: the conference at three per game. They've only lost one

859
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: turnover on the whole. See easy. The next closest team

860
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: with the least amount of turnovers is Colorado believe it

861
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: or not, but they've only gotten two turnovers. Um. In

862
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: terms of total giveaways, UM, Oregon State is positive as well.

863
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: They've lost five turnovers, but they have gotten um. Yeah,

864
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: so they have gotten Oh so they are plus four

865
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: on the year. And because they've gotten nine total turnovers

866
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: eight interceptions in one fumble, Oregon is plus twelve. Then

867
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: next U c. L A Is plus two. Stanford is

868
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: plus two. Oh oh, I wonder where all these teams

869
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:54,959
Speaker 1: are winning football games? UM. Washington State is plus one,

870
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: unbelievably because their their defense is forcing a lot of turnovers.

871
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: Colorado is the turnable margin of zero, so is Arizona State.

872
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: They've given six gotten six. USC is minus one, Washington

873
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: is minus two, Utah is minus two. Cal is minus

874
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 1: two in Arizona is minus seven. So which is which

875
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: is more impressive Oregon being plus twelve through four games

876
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: and only having one giveaway, or the fact that Oregon

877
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: State is doing so well. I think if you're plus

878
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: twelve through four games, that's insane. That that's that's a

879
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: plus three margin per game. That's incredible, that's incredible. There

880
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: there's nothing more impressive than being plus twelve in turnovers

881
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: through four games. No, you were right about that, a

882
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: higher marginal victory would be more impressive. But no, you

883
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: are you are right? All right, So we got Colorado

884
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: at a s U and I think that we have

885
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: to acknowledge that Jayden Daniels looks pretty ordinary right right now,

886
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: that that he doesn't look like a special that when

887
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: when he was a freshman, we thought that he could,

888
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: and I even wrote an article about him potentially being

889
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: a trans uh you know, transformative quarterback for Arizona State,

890
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: and through two season and a half since, he hasn't

891
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: looked like that. He was dynamic on the on the ground,

892
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 1: he rushed for seventy five yards and two two touchdowns,

893
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: but as far as throwing the football this season, he

894
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: has not been at the level that you would have expected.

895
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: Eight d eight yards, two touchdowns, three interceptions. Are you ready?

896
00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: Are we ready to have this conversation? He's played twenty games,

897
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 1: he has twenty four touchdowns in twenty games. M hmmm,

898
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: twenty four and six is a good season. That's his

899
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: career um. Wait, twenty four and four touchdowns six interceptions

900
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: for his in in twenty games. Yeah, no, he got

901
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 1: nine touchdowns on the ground. But here, here's here's the thing.

902
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: We were putting him in the same breath as like

903
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: a I mean, we're talking about him contending for awards

904
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: after his freshman season. We were saying, if he can

905
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 1: build off what he did as a freshman, this guy

906
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: might win awards. Right, Averaging one point two touchdown passes

907
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: per game is not awards. One point two touchdowns per

908
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: game and point five rushing touchdowns per game, it's not

909
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: gonna get it. He doesn't even have average two touchdowns

910
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 1: per game in as far as far as his production.

911
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: Like so, I see Oklahoma fans booing Spencer Rattler for

912
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: putting up better stats than this, and obviously they have

913
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: four Heisman winners in the last eighteen years at the

914
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: quarterback position. But like, I mean, he's he's in his

915
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: last eight games, in his last eight full games, George,

916
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: he is five and three. He's got seven touchdowns and

917
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: four interceptions and six rushing touchdowns. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna

918
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: It's not everybody expected him to be a three year

919
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: guy and go to the league. I would be very

920
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: surprised if he enters the NFL draft at this point. Right,

921
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: would he come back to a school that has a

922
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: different staff than the one that brought him in? Uh?

923
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: He may be he Oh so if you so? So

924
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: you're pondering the possibility that Arizona that he ends up

925
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: in the portal after this year. I don't know who

926
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: would even stay if the whole staff goes. What would

927
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: you stay for? If you get the to pick, if

928
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: you're graduate chant transfer, you get to pick where you're

929
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: gonna go. You can pick the best available offensive coordinator.

930
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: I don't know here George here this season, that would

931
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: at least here the pitch from the new coach. Yeah.

932
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: There are three games this year where Jane Daniels did

933
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: not throw a touchdown pass. There have been four games total.

934
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: He has two touchdown passes in four games. Years left.

935
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: He is on pace for six touchdown passes over the

936
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: course of a full season. Yeah, but he may he

937
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: may run for twelve. He is on pace for six

938
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns. Yeah, so I told you it's going to

939
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: be the running game of the defense that carries this team.

940
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: And I do appreciate his ability to get out of danger.

941
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: He's completing seventy of his passes, but it's just not

942
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: I don't know herm Edwards set the goal that they

943
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: wanted to be running seventy plays a game. I don't

944
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: think they're anywhere close to that as a right now.

945
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: And so they beat Colorado thirty five to thirteen. And

946
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: this Colorado team is atrocious, bro. It's not good. Um. Defensively,

947
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: I like a lot of the pieces that they have.

948
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: Definitely like what they're doing at defensive back, um, But

949
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: when your offense doesn't move the ball at all, because

950
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: they four consecutive drives before they kicked a field goal

951
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: and then they like celebrated that field goal on the

952
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: sideline and it was very sad to watch. Yeah, dude,

953
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: And Brendan Lewis is having a very very tough time.

954
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: Part of it is that they can't protect him. But

955
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: he's seven for seventeen for sixty seven yards in this game. Yeah,

956
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: And Brendan Rice favorite in my tweet of Carl Darrell

957
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: that just said, hello darkness, my old friend, and then

958
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: I went over to Brennan Rice's Instagram and he just

959
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: had a picture of himself and it says free me

960
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,959
Speaker 1: with the chain emoji. So things are not going well

961
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: for that offense. Yike like and and and they have

962
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: two really good running backs on their roster, really good,

963
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter if everybody can just key on them.

964
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: They still managed to rush for what SEV against a

965
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: su Yeah, it's pretty good. Yep. Alright, last game up,

966
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: which was the most shocking result. I thought Oregon State

967
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: could win this game, but I thought that they would

968
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: win it if the under hit well. The over hit

969
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: by a lot and it was seventy two points total

970
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: Oregon State forty five, USC seven. And the coldest part

971
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: about this game was was that the referees were horrendously

972
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: against Oregon State. They at one point time, I think

973
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: they have four straight plays with holding penalties and it

974
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: did not matter. They just came and ran them over.

975
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: They ran for three hundred and twenty two yards route

976
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty two and Chance Nolan through fifteen

977
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: for nineteen and two of them and two of the

978
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: four and completions were interceptions and b J. Baylor went

979
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: for a buck chance, Nolan went for fifty seven, Fenwick

980
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: went for fifty. Everybody who touched the ball was just running,

981
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: just gashing them. This linebacker score on you twice in

982
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: Jack coleto, Yeah he's a linebacker, bro. This team is

983
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: Jonathan Smith has this team rolling and they so cowboy

984
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: Tijon Lindsay five catches for I don't think he's ever

985
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: had a hundred jersey game before. We live catches Hunter

986
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: two yards, just eating two touchdowns for the free. And

987
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: you had Dante Williams, who is the interim head coach,

988
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of people who are throwing blame

989
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: at him around. But like the hay was in the

990
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: barn already, you didn't. You can't, you can't. There's nothing

991
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: you can do about an ass whooping like you can't.

992
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: You can't coach a team to be a more serious,

993
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: physical football team like you not. In two weeks, he's out.

994
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: He's out, by the way, he's done. He's done as

995
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: a candidate over why why they beat Washington State last week? Right?

996
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: But the last time that Oregon State. I'm gonna let

997
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: you guess, We're gonna play a game called guests. The president.

998
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: The last time Oregon State won in l A Truman. Okay,

999
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: you say Truman and I'm gonna say JFK. We'll see

1000
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:13,919
Speaker 1: who's right. The president in nineteen sixty was Eisenhower. Eisenhower

1001
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: out here building freeways. Oh my god. So this was

1002
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: a historic win for the Beavers. Program launched him to

1003
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: three and one history. So USC ran for with Kyante

1004
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: Ingram four team for seventy nine yards two touchdowns, and

1005
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: this was a disaster. Keaton Slovas through three interceptions through

1006
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: his offense is weak, sauce man. I know we've been

1007
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: saying it for years, but you don't actually, you don't

1008
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: actually get the gist of it until you watch the

1009
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: offense go up against someone who runs a real off

1010
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: fence with much less talent and you get destroyed. Yep, dude,

1011
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: they are. They are boat race, Dude, like they are.

1012
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: What did I tell you? The biggest weakness for Oregon

1013
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: State was on the defensive side of the ball. It's

1014
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: how Purdue beat the living hell out of them in

1015
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: the second half of their only loss this year. Tight

1016
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,919
Speaker 1: ends their weaknesses. Tight ends Eric crowmin hook and Jude

1017
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: Wolfe four catches for fifteen yards against Oregon State. Mm

1018
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: hmm mhm. Yeah. The leading the leading tackler for your

1019
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: defense is your strong safety. That should not be that

1020
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: should not be be it. That means that the that

1021
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: the running backs are are in your secondary all day.

1022
01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: When Jackson's draft stock plummeting, Chris Steele's draft stock plummeting.

1023
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: Isaac Taylor Stewart supposed to be a five star. He

1024
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 1: got a pick in this game. But like they gave

1025
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: up four to the four touchdowns, the four touchdown passes

1026
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: the Chance Nolan is just a reminder that in the

1027
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: last three years, this USC team has given up four

1028
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: touchdown passes to Chance Nolan, gave up four touchdown passes

1029
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: to Joey Yellen. Back up at Assue when he came

1030
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: in with Jane Daniels, he gave up four total touchdowns

1031
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: to Justin Herbert, gave up four total touchdowns to Dorian

1032
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson. They have been outplayed. They've been outplayed by

1033
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: Chance Nolan and Joey Yellen and oh, I don't know, Colin.

1034
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: I bet Brendan Lewis at Colorado just counting down the

1035
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 1: days until they get to play USC. He's like, yes, yes,

1036
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get right against these five star defensive backs. Yeah,

1037
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, you can totally don't even come back now,

1038
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: Gram Harrold can't. Graham Harrold Pryor needs to replace Jonathan

1039
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: Smith when Jonathan Jonathan Smith takes his rightful position as

1040
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 1: the head coach of University of Southern California. Dude, he

1041
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: should be the next head coach and we will talk

1042
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: to talk about that in a couple of minutes. But yeah,

1043
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: this team is an absolute disaster and a dumpster fire.

1044
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: Now onto our pack twelve power rankings, So we'll go

1045
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: twelve through seven and then we'll go six through one.

1046
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: My number twelve team Arizona, number eleven Colorado. That's gonna

1047
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: be a hell of a matchup. Um, it's got to

1048
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 1: be on pack pack twelve, right, No, man, they got

1049
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: to get that on some basic cables. So every what alright?

1050
01:06:55,640 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: Number ten, Washington State, number nine, Utah eight, USC seven

1051
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: Cow six oh yes seven cow? Okay? Um I have

1052
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: the same bottom three Arizona, Colorado, Washington State. Um, even

1053
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: the Washington State could be four and o at this point,

1054
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: which is crazy to think about cal who could also

1055
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: be four and oh I have them at number nine,

1056
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: Utah at eight, and USC at seven. I don't why

1057
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: yours sounds like it makes more sense than mine. Okay,

1058
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: so how did you get mm hmm, how did I

1059
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: get USC above Cal and Utah? Yeah? Uh, well, no, no,

1060
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: I I have them above Utah, but not above Cow

1061
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: because we're we're in agreement on the bottom three. I

1062
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: think that that's simple, man. And then you can technically

1063
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: have USC as low as ten, but they beat Washington States.

1064
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: You gotta, I guess have them above. I don't know.

1065
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: You're probably right, I guess. I guess if I had to,

1066
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: i'd switch mine, but I don't. I don't know. If

1067
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: I would switch it to be what yours is, it

1068
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: would have moved Utah into the nine slot and then

1069
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: USC in the eight slots and have Cal above them.

1070
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: I guess that's that's what that's what I have. Cal

1071
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 1: looks better than their Yeah, this is a weird thing

1072
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: to say, but like Cal looks better than their record,

1073
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 1: and they actually look a little bit better than the

1074
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 1: talent that they put up. Well, they look like they're

1075
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: gonna put up a good fight and just losing the

1076
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 1: end um all right, Washington at six, Stanford at five,

1077
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: a s U just by default at four, Oregon State

1078
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: at three, U c l A at two, Oregon at one.

1079
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: We're the exact same, except I have a s U

1080
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: at three in Oregon State at four instead of Oregon

1081
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: State at three and a s U at four, and

1082
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 1: my reasoning for that is perdue beat Oregon State, a

1083
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: SU beat themselves at B y U. Okay, all right,

1084
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: so yeah, so those are our power rankings. I still

1085
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 1: don't know what to make out of a s U yet,

1086
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: still don't know what what to make out of them?

1087
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: What do you want from them? I want them to

1088
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 1: beat a good foot. Well we will. I will learn

1089
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:35,879
Speaker 1: everything that I need to know about a s U

1090
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: this weekend when they play U c l A. Yeah,

1091
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see if if if Dorian Thompson Robinson

1092
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 1: isn't in a full body cast that he's gonna break out. Dude,

1093
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna come out like willis read. All right, let's

1094
01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 1: do our picks for this weekend. Um, we pulled them up.

1095
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: So the first game that we have up this weekend

1096
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 1: is pull it up. So Arizona is off this weekend mercifully, right. Yeah, Yeah,

1097
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 1: they got some tryouts to prepare for Yeah, and who

1098
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: else is off as well? And so Arizona and Cow. Nope,

1099
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 1: not Cow, and Nope not not Stanford. Who is that Colorado?

1100
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: They could use the brake? Nope, they play us USC.

1101
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: He's struggling. What's happened? Yes, I can't find him? Damn.

1102
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: My team teams are Arizona and Utah. Okay, thank you,

1103
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 1: see you just left left me out here struggle. Thanks Ralph. Thanks,

1104
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: it's funny. Okay, SOS game up in chronological order. We

1105
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: have USC at Colorado. This is on Saturday at eleven

1106
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: am on the Pack twelve network. Yogi Roth is on

1107
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: this game with Ted Ted Robinson. USC is favored by

1108
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 1: seven points. Well, I love Yogi Ross as a broadcaster.

1109
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: I do two. He's just like dragging the sunshining of

1110
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: the cloudiest um and uh. USC is favored by seven

1111
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: points over under a fifty one. I will take USC

1112
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 1: minus seven and the over. This is a bounce back

1113
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 1: game for them, because, dude, there's no way that USC's

1114
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: defense can even make Colorado look good. I suppose, but

1115
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 1: USC is mostly trying to do it through the air,

1116
01:11:55,880 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: and Colorado strength is their defensive backfield. Um, So, KEITHA.

1117
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 1: Slovis looks bad this game, do they go to Miller

1118
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: Moss Being that, I think it'd be a good game

1119
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 1: to do that. And I mean, you know, you know

1120
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: how much I love Ketn Slovis, But I think I

1121
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: think Miller Moss is a Dincon dunk guy. In my head,

1122
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 1: He's a quick decision Dncon dunk guy. You let your

1123
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 1: athletes make plays. I don't think that'd be the worst

1124
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 1: thing to do against Colorado, but I don't. They're probably

1125
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 1: gonna roll Slows because it's he hasn't really done anything.

1126
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 1: Like Slovis is going to be wherever Graham Harrow is

1127
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,679
Speaker 1: next season because he's gonna skip. He's gonna get hop

1128
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: into transfer portal as well. Keith and Slow is going

1129
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 1: to be absolutely fine because I don't know if you've noticed,

1130
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 1: but the quarterback playing in the back twelve is garbage.

1131
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: He'd be such a huge upgrade for about eight of

1132
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 1: these teams. He could go to Colorado and be an upgrade,

1133
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: but he could play. He could show up to the

1134
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: walk on tryouts at University of Arizona in two weeks

1135
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: and be the starter the next day. Oh and be

1136
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: at home that that's a good point. All right, So

1137
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: who do you have in this game? Usc N seven

1138
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 1: over under fifty one. My in my head, it's an

1139
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 1: to thirteen game. So I'm I guess I'll take USC

1140
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: in the under. All right. Next game up, Oregon at Stanford,

1141
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: Oregon's favorite by eight points over under a fifty seven

1142
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 1: and a half. The first four weekends of October are

1143
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: Oregon's gauntlet. They really are. Like the next three games

1144
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: over the next four weekends is and I think this

1145
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: is This is a tricky one, man, This is a

1146
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: really tricky one because Stanford, for all their flaws, they

1147
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 1: don't really turn the ball over. And that's what Oregon

1148
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: has been taking advantage of. So if Stanford protects the ball,

1149
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 1: it might actually I'm actually gonna go with Stanford plus

1150
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 1: eight and a half. I don't think they win, but

1151
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: if they limit their turnovers, then that would give this

1152
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: game the opportunity to be a little bit of a

1153
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: nail biter. I don't, I don't know. If Oregon can

1154
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: score enough, I'll take the I don't. I don't like

1155
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: the over at all. But if if we're thinking like

1156
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 1: or something like that, that that's a push. Yeah, I'm

1157
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 1: gonna take the under. I'm gonna take Stanford in the under.

1158
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: Oh lordy, all right, I'm going to take Oregon and

1159
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: the over. That's a lot of points. Yeah, but or

1160
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: organ scoring over thirty points a game. So yeah. In

1161
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 1: in games against Arizona and Stony Brook, watch those and

1162
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: Ohio State, who would win? Who would win between Arizona

1163
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: and Stony Brook? I don't know. Sorry, I don't know. No,

1164
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: I'm dead as serious. They lost the AU, So how

1165
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,440
Speaker 1: am I supposed to know the answer to that? Okay?

1166
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 1: Arizona State at u c l A the biggest game

1167
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 1: of Yeah, it's the biggest game of the week in

1168
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 1: terms of actually every game Oregon plays right now is

1169
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 1: crucial to the conference. So there. Anytime you have a

1170
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 1: top five team playing, it's going to be bigger than

1171
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 1: whatever else is going on. Yeah. So you've got Arizona

1172
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: State at number twenty u c l A SE. The

1173
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: Arizona State finished. As far as the rankings this week,

1174
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: I will pull it up. They finished because it's got

1175
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: to be a win in your in scenario thirty one

1176
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: or thirty thirty one, man, people do not respect b

1177
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 1: y you No, thirty two. Sorry, they finished thirty two

1178
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 1: and by us the number fifteen team in the country. Yeah,

1179
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 1: I hold one to three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine.

1180
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 1: So no, they finished thirty four. That is super disrespectful. No,

1181
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 1: it's not, yes, it is. Why is that? And you

1182
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 1: had eight teen flags and four turnovers against the number

1183
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 1: fifteen team in the country and lost by ten and

1184
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 1: you were twenty one. But they have no good wins none,

1185
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: they have no good wins. So after if they beat

1186
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 1: u c l A this week, they will be ranked.

1187
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 1: But but the over, but the spread in this game,

1188
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 1: U c l A is favored by three and a

1189
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: half points over under fifty five and a half. Give

1190
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 1: me the Bruins and give me the over all. Right,

1191
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 1: let's see the coaches Paul disrespected Arizona State even more

1192
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: fascinating coaches Paul also put Clemson above NC State. So

1193
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 1: they're idiots, Yeah, exactly when they literally beat them all right, Um,

1194
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 1: yeah that the coaches can't even watch games. I don't

1195
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,759
Speaker 1: even know why they even vote. Uh. So you have

1196
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 1: Arizona State at U c l A minus three and

1197
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 1: a half, who you got over under fifty five and

1198
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: a half. M hmm, I like the I like the

1199
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 1: Sun Devils plus three and a half and the under

1200
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 1: plus three in a row. Shoot, yeah, I like the

1201
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 1: Sun Devils plus three and a half in the under. Dude, Okay,

1202
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 1: they've already got one one loss. You predicted them to

1203
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: go at eleven and one. They got three more to go, buddy, Yeah,

1204
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: you know I'm riding. You know I'm you know I'm

1205
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 1: riding with my original prediction. I'm not. I'm not making

1206
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: this judgment off of what is because if I was

1207
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 1: doing it based off of what I see, I still

1208
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 1: think it might only be a three point win for U. C.

1209
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: L A. But I just the lack of discipline from

1210
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: a s U, the of multidimensional offense, and the fact

1211
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 1: that Chip Kelly has had her Edwards number, and that

1212
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 1: it's in the Rose Bowl and they are going to

1213
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 1: confuse him. They're gonna blitz his face to they are

1214
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: gonna blitz his face. So okay, So just let it

1215
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 1: be known. Let it be known so I can't take

1216
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 1: too much credit if I'm right. Let it be known

1217
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: that I'm riding with my original prediction, which is why

1218
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: I'm on a s U plus three and a half.

1219
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 1: I'm doubling down. But I'm fully fully aware of the

1220
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 1: situation at hand. I am not stupid, Okay, okay, guys,

1221
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:38,879
Speaker 1: I am not stupid, all right, just insane, Just insane.

1222
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,759
Speaker 1: That's the definition of insanity, right, the same thing over

1223
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: expected different results, alright, not. Washington State at cal cal

1224
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 1: is favored by seven and a half points over under

1225
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: fifty two and a half. What do you like? Can

1226
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 1: you imagine a non one score col game? No, No,

1227
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: that's that's all they do. Yeah, they almost pulled it

1228
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 1: off with Portland State as well. I think um or

1229
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: Sacramento State where they played the green team from the

1230
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:18,879
Speaker 1: big S guy. That's both of them. I guess, Uh,

1231
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: Washington States down and out man is doing. We're in

1232
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 1: the same situation we were in. Is Jaden Laura gonna

1233
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 1: be ready or not? I don't know. I don't know.

1234
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 1: Let's let's assume he's not. Then if he's not, I'll

1235
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 1: take the seven and a half. What was the over under?

1236
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 1: The over under is fifty two and a half over.

1237
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: I take Calonie over. I am going to take Washington

1238
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: State and the I'm gonna take Washington State in the under.

1239
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 1: Have no good reason for this. I don't. I'm admitting

1240
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 1: I have no good reason for this. Um. That game's

1241
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 1: on PAC twelve network as well. Oh oh, and then

1242
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: ironically Oregon the Oregon Stanford game. Rod Gilmour is calling

1243
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 1: that game too. Oh that's good. That are you? Are

1244
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: you gonna watch? Are you going to find a radio broadcast? No, dude,

1245
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 1: I'm going to I'm going to watch. I'm not one

1246
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 1: of these weird old people who's like I watched it

1247
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 1: with the sound off. No, I don't do that. Hey,

1248
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 1: I do. I watch. Um, I have a hard time

1249
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 1: singing them up, but usually if I'm gonna listen to radio,

1250
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 1: it's just radio. Actually, no, you're right at doing both

1251
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 1: is such a hassle now because the stream is behind

1252
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 1: the radio call sometimes. Um so, No, I'm I'm I'm

1253
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm with you. But I do like I'd like listening

1254
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 1: to games on the radio as much as I like

1255
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 1: watching them on television. If the broadcast crew can pay

1256
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 1: a good picture. Yeah, uh not not me. I'd rather

1257
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:00,719
Speaker 1: watch it a pick words cannot describe are the amazing

1258
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: things that happen in games? All right? Um? He says,

1259
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 1: he says on her audio only podcast, Maybe we're just

1260
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 1: making a video. Alright, Washington at Oregon State. Oregon State

1261
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: is favored by two and a half points over under

1262
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 1: fifty six. This game is in core Vallis. Give me

1263
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: the over and give me Oregon State. Give me Jonathan Smith.

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01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: He is auditioned for this USC job. Bro. I they

1265
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 1: are going to pummel Washington. If they pummel Washington, you're

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01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 1: gonna have a Seattle versus l a bidding war for

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01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 1: Jonathan Smith. I disagree with you. I am go figure.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go full contrariing. I'm gonna be uh Kyrie

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01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 1: irving here, contrarian without a cause. I am going to

1270
01:21:54,600 --> 01:22:00,719
Speaker 1: go with Washington. I do not believe of Oregon States

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01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 1: for real. I don't what I don't I don't. I

1272
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 1: heard people here. I saw you and Andrew hobnerre talking

1273
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 1: about Chance Nolan being the second best quarterback in the

1274
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 1: back twelve? Who who who's better? Who is a better

1275
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: quarterback than? Give Jonathan Smith to half of the other

1276
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 1: pack twelve quarters? No? No, no, no, who is he

1277
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 1: isn't even who is playing better? Who's playing the best

1278
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 1: quarterback football in the pack twelve? Literally, anyone who faces

1279
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 1: USC's defense you can't overreact to that stuff again. Joey

1280
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 1: yelling through for four touchdowns. I'm just I'm just asking

1281
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: who is playing better? So Key didn't Keta Slovis, No

1282
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 1: Chase Garber's no Kethan slovis Is. He doesn't get to

1283
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 1: play against usc um the Whington State quarterbacks, no Colorado quarterbacks,

1284
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 1: no Utah quarterbacks. Oh um, dude, it's he wins by default.

1285
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 1: There's nothing going right right Not everybody has gotten to

1286
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: face the Trojans yet. Wait till everybody gets to play

1287
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 1: usc So if he lights up Washington, will you give

1288
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 1: him King King at the back twelve right right now?

1289
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: Or do you think it has to be Anthony Brown

1290
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 1: because he hasn't committed a turnover yet this season? Okay, Okay,

1291
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:35,679
Speaker 1: it's not Anthony Brown, um, but I don't know why not. Okay,

1292
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 1: he just went for ten for twenty one against Arizona.

1293
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 1: But you're gonna say him not turned from Paul Over.

1294
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have this argument. I'll tell you this. Yes, yes,

1295
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 1: if he repeats last week's performance against the Purple Rain

1296
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 1: or whatever they call themselves, then sure. But this secondary

1297
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 1: is very good. They're very well coached. I don't think

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01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be that easy. I think the balance of

1299
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 1: Oregon State's offense is what could what could ultimately win

1300
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: them this game. Um, but I am taking Washington in

1301
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 1: the under so I'll be the fool. But you know,

1302
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 1: you know what I really like about this line up

1303
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 1: of games, George, what there's only one game that kicks

1304
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 1: off at ten thirty at night my time, dude, And

1305
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 1: the good news they're spread out throughout the day. The

1306
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:28,799
Speaker 1: only thing I don't like is that the USC color well, actually,

1307
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: the USC Colorado game is gonna be a blowout, so

1308
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: I can like watch games stacked up and don't have

1309
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 1: to be like, oh my god, there's four on at

1310
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 1: seven o'clock like there was last week or seven. Last

1311
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 1: week was brutal. I fell asleep like three times in

1312
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of the three games that we're all

1313
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 1: on at once because it was like one fifteen in

1314
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 1: the morning. But then I had to set an alarm.

1315
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 1: I had to set an alarm for one thirty am

1316
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 1: because I was doing a podcast of somebody else's on

1317
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 1: the West Coast. Yeah, hey, this is that. This is

1318
01:24:58,320 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 1: the life. You're the one who chose to move to

1319
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 1: Timbuck t Um. So those are the picks for the week.

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Speaker 1: Now we have USC's coaching carousel, well sorry, the Survivor series.

1321
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 1: That is for the USC coaching job. Now. Ralph put

1322
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: out a list on on Afraid show dot com, so

1323
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 1: you guys can go check it out of all the

1324
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 1: potential candidates and who should get the and why they

1325
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 1: should or should not receive the job. So now we

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01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 1: will go with who is supposed to Well, actually there

1327
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 1: were some candidates already and that is um p J. Fleck,

1328
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: who was high on people's list. Is he still a

1329
01:25:55,920 --> 01:26:00,799
Speaker 1: candidate now he's done? He was he he was walking.

1330
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 1: I thought he was a fantastic candidate. He's kind of

1331
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 1: walking a tight rope. And then they had that they

1332
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 1: lost to Bowling Green. You can't you can't do that,

1333
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: and I almost it was almost to the point where

1334
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: I was like, man, this Minnesota trying to keep p J.

1335
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 1: Fleck as their head coach. Yes, sabotaging thinking. So the

1336
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: rest of the candidates besides p J. Fleck were Dante Williams,

1337
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 1: Mario Cristo, Baul, James Franklin, Eric b Enemy, Joe Brady,

1338
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin, Luke Fickle, Billy Napier, Chris Peterson, Urban Meyer,

1339
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 1: Bob Stoops, Matt Campbell, Bill O'Brien, Tony Elliott, and now

1340
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: we have to add Jonathan Smith to the list. And uh,

1341
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman, the Notre Dame UM defensive coordinator who came

1342
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 1: from Cincinnati. So I know that you know that, um

1343
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 1: that USC isn't hiring a search m right, correct. So

1344
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: what's going to continue to happen is boosters are going

1345
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 1: to reach out to people of their own volition like

1346
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn and now so now it's being reported Anthony

1347
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 1: Wynn has been talked to you about USC boosters, former

1348
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 1: head coach of the l A Chargers. Okay, so now

1349
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 1: through four weeks of football, who is eliminated from the list?

1350
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 1: P J Flex gone, Dante Williams is gone. Um, those

1351
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 1: two for sure are not. I I think that they

1352
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 1: are completely out of consideration. And I would say about

1353
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: Tony Elliott. Tony Elliott, Clemson fans are calling for his

1354
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 1: firing as of yesterday, so I would say that he's

1355
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 1: eliminated as well. Okay, all right, so that leaves us

1356
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 1: with Bill O'Brien, Matt Campbell, Stoops, Urban Meyer, Chris Peterson,

1357
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 1: Billy Napier, Luke Fickle, Lane Kiffin, Joe Brady, Eric Bard

1358
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 1: to meet James Franklin, Mario Cristo Ball. I'm gonna scratch

1359
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 1: Mario Cristo Ball off that list because he's not going

1360
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go ahead an eliminator and Meyer because

1361
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: it would never happen in a million years. Correct, So

1362
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 1: he's off the list. And one of the things that

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01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,679
Speaker 1: I've said about this USC jobs, it is a really

1364
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,719
Speaker 1: good job, but you have to remember that they want

1365
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 1: a a plus rock star name brand and all of that,

1366
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,639
Speaker 1: which Pete Carroll was not correct. Kind of remind people

1367
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll is not that, and that's not what they're

1368
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 1: gonna get because they need a full rebuild on the

1369
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 1: offensive line or rebuilding some other spots. This is not

1370
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 1: gonna be while while this is a job, a good job,

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01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 1: the people that they want already have good jobs. So

1372
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 1: are you gonna be willing to leave your really good

1373
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 1: job for a job that now you have to rebuild?

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01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:01,639
Speaker 1: And that's so that's the internal debate about James Franklin.

1375
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 1: James Franklin has four straight top ten recruiting classes. They

1376
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 1: look good right now. He's from Pennsylvania, And I guess

1377
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 1: if you really want to get into it, that's part

1378
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 1: of the argument about Luke Fickle as well. He's been

1379
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 1: in Ohio for his entire career. He's never left. Not

1380
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,560
Speaker 1: only did he get Cincinnati to the point where they're

1381
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:27,679
Speaker 1: they're competitive, he has them joining a major conference. Yeah, okay,

1382
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: so we ultimately see who because this is an attractive job.

1383
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 1: But I think that they're going to find out that

1384
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:39,600
Speaker 1: less people are willing to leave where they are for it,

1385
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 1: and that's a humbling experience, just just like Texas. That's

1386
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 1: why they had to hire uh Steve Sarkissian, who was

1387
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:54,719
Speaker 1: I at Washington sept seven wins. Sark then came down

1388
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 1: to usc got fired, rehab his image and all that

1389
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 1: stuff at Alabama, and then now he came out, came

1390
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:04,640
Speaker 1: out of the car wash smelling like new money, and

1391
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 1: you give him the job. He wasn't there first, one

1392
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 1: of their first five picks. So you they're gonna fall

1393
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 1: into that same category of a lot of people want

1394
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 1: the job, that a lot of people like the idea

1395
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 1: of the job, then less people are willing to take

1396
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: the job. Yeah. I don't know. Well, so, where where

1397
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 1: are you at? Who is your Jonathan Smith from Oregon state?

1398
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 1: That too, all the chips need to go towards Jonathan Smith,

1399
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 1: Like he's the guy you need to break the bank

1400
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:36,680
Speaker 1: to get and you don't even have to break the

1401
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:40,560
Speaker 1: bank to get him. Yeah, to me, he's the smartest

1402
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 1: he's the smartest choice. But because he's the head coach

1403
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 1: of a smaller school, the risk that is presented if

1404
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 1: you go after Jonathan Smith is if he turns you down,

1405
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 1: that would be the absolute kill shot. Is if you

1406
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 1: take the risk of going after a smaller name who

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01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 1: would actually probably be the best higher uh because it

1408
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 1: will it would probably allow you to keep Dante Williams

1409
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 1: um and let somebody run an offense that would keep

1410
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:10,600
Speaker 1: your stars looking like stars um, and you'd be the

1411
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 1: smartest guy in the room, you know, as far as

1412
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 1: how to put together an offense and stuff like that.

1413
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 1: But if he turns you down, that's pretty brutal. And

1414
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 1: so I would also keep an eye on somebody who

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01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 1: has coached in the Pack twelve, somebody who was coached

1416
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,799
Speaker 1: under Davo Swingey, somebody has coached under Nick Saban, somebody

1417
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:31,799
Speaker 1: who has uh taken a group of five school into

1418
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 1: a top twenty five ranking in multiple seasons in Billy Napier.

1419
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 1: I'll keep an eye on him as well. All right,

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Speaker 1: Well that's USC's coaching search and you, guys, this is

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Speaker 1: the Pack twelve Apostles podcast. Enjoy the games this week.

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Speaker 1: I'm George Rice Stir, He's Ralph and then hit us

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Speaker 1: up two nine, three, seven, five seven or eight one eight.

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01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 1: Well that or I'm mad. I am m a d

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Speaker 1: at Unafraid Show dot Com. Peace out, catch you guys next.

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