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Speaker 1: Michael Very Show is on the air.

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Speaker 2: Good Morning, Michael, Good mornings are Oh yeah, this is

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Speaker 2: the mutual man, Randy Savage seeing Good morning, Michael Bear,

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Speaker 2: good mornays.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this.

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Speaker 3: Good Morning Texas in your car.

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Speaker 4: Good ball morning Texass, wrong Honesday.

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Speaker 3: We're happy to talk about everything I say.

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Speaker 5: Good morning. We're not wearing that.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Jesson, Good morning, weekend, I speak God damn.

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Speaker 1: Good morning. On today's program, we will talk about Doug

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Speaker 1: Flutie specifically, why was he Why was he so good

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Speaker 1: coming off the bench to win games but flubbed every

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Speaker 1: start as a starting quarterback? What was the issue? Was

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Speaker 1: also true of Gary Hogeban. Let's talk about buddy of mine,

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Speaker 1: and people forget that I didn't grow up in Houston,

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Speaker 1: because I talk so much about Houston and Houston's history,

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Speaker 1: and all of it has been told to me or

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Speaker 1: I've read it. I didn't live it. I don't have

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Speaker 1: a lived experience, as they say, Ramon, I don't have

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Speaker 1: that lived experience. So a buddy of mine was talking

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Speaker 1: about that he and his brother invented the first remote

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Speaker 1: control TV. They had a Curtis Mathis, And remember the

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Speaker 1: old tubes and the TV Ventible TV was our TV

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Speaker 1: repair company in Orange. I got to bring this back

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Speaker 1: to Orange. But my buddy, he said he and his

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Speaker 1: brother during the summer invented the first remote control. And

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Speaker 1: what happened was the TV would start to jump. Tube

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Speaker 1: would would jump, and then it would cut off. And

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Speaker 1: so they rigged up a cane pole to somehow to

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Speaker 1: because we went too long. But they rigged up a

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Speaker 1: at an angle, and they put a and had a

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Speaker 1: And he said his mother was very impressed with their ingenuity. Now,

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Speaker 1: my buddy is now a nuclear scientist who prior to that,

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Speaker 1: spent thirty five years at NASA. I'm this kid, he's

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Speaker 1: a cop. But wouldn't it have been cool if if

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Speaker 1: that was the first sign that man he's got some

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Speaker 1: real technical technical skill. I mean, that kid right there's

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Speaker 1: got snapped. No, no, not at all. He's a cop,

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Speaker 1: a good one, but he's a cop. But he was

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Speaker 1: telling me he was very proud of his of his

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you who it is, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you him. Yes, his brother's name is Charlie Hunt. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: so he was telling me they had a Curtis Mathis,

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Speaker 1: the Curtis Mathis, and then he broke into the song

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Speaker 1: and he he bought they bought their Curtis Mathis from

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Speaker 1: Hank Williams. And I thought, okay, there's a joke here. No,

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Speaker 1: apparently there was a TV dealer in town on STOLLAINK

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Speaker 1: named Hank Williams. Did you know this? And he went

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Speaker 1: into the song and started singing, Hank Williams has Zenith

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Speaker 1: see if I can find that commercial, which I mean,

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Speaker 1: high end. You know, Curse Mathis was made in Texas.

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Speaker 1: I think the company was headquartered in Dallas. Did you

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Speaker 1: like what you're not finding Hank Williams TV. My Hank

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Speaker 1: I can't remember, But somehow that conversation turned into oh,

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Speaker 1: I knew it was the owner of Princess Hamburg Zodale Prince.

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Speaker 1: so it's like Marvin Zendler, you know, it just puts

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Speaker 1: Sodell Prince that was the fifty one block of nine

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Speaker 1: She thought it was a snake, so she had it.

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Speaker 3: Now it's only three things and he had a ten

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Speaker 6: Next she thought it was a snake, so she.

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Speaker 4: Now, it's only.

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Speaker 1: That that's the way.

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Speaker 7: She thought it was a sad so she had read.

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Speaker 1: Now it's on a street.

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Speaker 1: Thing about it is still impressive. So Dan Pastorini's birthday

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Speaker 1: So I sent it to him on his birthday and

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Speaker 1: he said, would you please let me die in peace? Literal?

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Speaker 1: People won't won't get that you were best funny right there.

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Speaker 1: So quite a few emails coming in. Hank Williams, the

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Speaker 1: Curtis Mathis TV dealer. His commercials came on during Houston

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Speaker 1: They'd play a song. Hank Williams. Hank Williams. That's all

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Speaker 1: I remember. That was back in the seventies. Other people

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Speaker 1: remembered Hank Williams. Hank Williams. We got Zenith and Curtis

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Speaker 1: we may have the song. Let's see if I can well, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I can't find it, but I will so. Hank Williams Junior,

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Speaker 1: the singer unrelated to the Curtis Mathis dealer in Houston.

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Speaker 1: Hank Williams Junior the Singer and Dan Pastorini, both born

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Speaker 1: on the same day May twenty six, and I don't

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Speaker 1: It would be cool if you could find someone that

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Speaker 1: which is to be forty nine years old, living in

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Speaker 1: waiting for July first hearing on the warrants that you

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Speaker 1: The fellow had a CDL for what he said, eighteen

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Speaker 1: nineteen years so, and he said he was making seventy

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Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. Do you remember ramon The reason why

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Speaker 1: he what happened there is that him? Oh, Hank William's daughter.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. What's her name?

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Speaker 8: Pat?

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Speaker 1: Hello? Pat? How are you welcome to Michael Berry show?

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Speaker 5: Oh? Thank you? Yeah. No, Hank Williams was my brother.

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Speaker 5: He's dead now, but he owned the Curtiss Mathis. My

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Speaker 5: whole family was in that business.

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Speaker 1: Pat, Those pasts that he's dead sound so hard.

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Speaker 5: Yes, oh I'm sorry, but yeah he did. He died

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Speaker 5: of lung cancer.

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Speaker 1: Did y'all live in a fifty one hundred block.

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Speaker 5: Of uh nan A Lee, Yes, that was his home.

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Speaker 5: Did he absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Well? Oh if he's your brother, Oh, I say, y'all

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Speaker 5: Micky Gilly did well. My my brother had like a

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Speaker 1: Sounds like a hell of marks.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he was. He was something else. But and

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Speaker 5: Still don't like them, We'll reprint them or refund your money,

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Speaker 5: no matter who's fault.

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Speaker 2: It is shown photo mat your photo matters.

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Speaker 3: But vine but but but vine but Hay Williams.

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Speaker 7: TVs TV's and.

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Speaker 8: Curtis may see you put him on your floor, Pink

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Speaker 1: Had not the song. Hand claim made that, Oh Pat,

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Speaker 1: I'm just doing some math. I was mathing while we

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Speaker 5: Let's see, not really with looking he was in Colorado

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Speaker 5: and he had moved. He had moved there. I have

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Speaker 5: another brother, Bill Williams, that lived there and they he

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Speaker 5: My brother Bill Williams had a Memorial City for about

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Speaker 5: ten years. He was in that mall, but it was Magnavox.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't Curtis Mathis. And actually a funny story about

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Speaker 5: just so soft. Maybe boxers just do that, keep their

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Speaker 1: It was still a link. How close was it to six'?

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Speaker 5: That, well my we're From. Corpus, uh that was where

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Speaker 5: Smart and then he married somebody From, Marilla. Mexico he

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Speaker 5: more interesting. Facts BUT i remember THAT i lived in

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Speaker 5: Started Curtis mathis there and did very very. Well not With,

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Speaker 5: henry but WELL i called Him, henry Not. Hank and

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Speaker 5: and and then you, know then he changed To magnavox

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Speaker 5: and owned A magnavox Location Immemorial City mall for about ten.

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Speaker 5: henry had moved to let's, see he moved To New

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Speaker 5: mexico for a, while but never went back into THE tv.

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Speaker 5: two of his sons have.

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Speaker 1: Died but so somebody had told me one of his

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Speaker 1: SIZE i think it Was scotty became a. Televangelist is that? True?

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Speaker 5: Scotty you know he moved To. MEXICO i know That

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Speaker 5: Here And scotty was, very very overweight his whole. Life

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Speaker 5: a wonderful. Personality but he might very well have been In.

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Speaker 5: MEXICO i just don't.

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Speaker 1: Know, PAT i could listen to you tell stories because

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Speaker 1: everything is so matter of. Fact did they figure out

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Speaker 5: Much? No BUT i was at The Houston zoo with

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Speaker 5: scottie you you can't eat that. Cookie you know what

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Speaker 5: know isn't that? Sad? Yeah he was, Tremendously yes he,

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Speaker 5: was but he was. Hilarious all Of henry's kids were fun.

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Speaker 5: Now one of, Them, joseph is a very well known.

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Speaker 5: Hairdresser in, fact he would go to the RADIO tv

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Speaker 5: the you, know the people that were doing the morning.

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Speaker 5: On Washington avenue in a, place and he's, married has

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Speaker 5: a very Wonderful christian. Wife we're all Huge trump, supporters

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Speaker 5: SO i don't, know But i'm sure you, yes he's.

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Speaker 1: Straight SO i was talking with who WAS i talking

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Speaker 1: to yesterday about uh, Oh emily my sister about straight

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Speaker 1: fellas that get into businesses that are dominated by gay,

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Speaker 1: and how difficult that must be for, them right because

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Speaker 1: everybody hold on to Save Pat.

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Speaker 7: Yeah a little, Son michael Berrys George.

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Speaker 1: SLEEP i can't you're. Excited Rick derringer died this. Week

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Speaker 1: rickdringer has more tunes that you would know than some

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Speaker 1: people might. Expect chad reminded me that he did the

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Speaker 1: intro For. Demolition might have a tour of the fours

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Speaker 1: Of Rick darringer. TUNES i used to listen to The

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Speaker 1: Josh Inness show on my drive in in the mornings

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Speaker 1: and our creative, Director Jim mudd was The Ramona robles

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Speaker 1: of The Josh Innes show and they played that. Song

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Speaker 1: was that their intro? Song they played the hell out of.

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Speaker 1: a good bit right. There it's a good. Bit and

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Speaker 1: that was the moment THAT i KNEW i was Hiring

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Speaker 1: Jim mudd to replace from. Home that was the. Moment,

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Speaker 1: yep right there on that, spot that was. It speaking of, Wrestling,

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Speaker 1: pat a number of people have emailed in that your,

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Speaker 1: Brother Hank williams had owned The Curtis Mathis dealer. Dealership

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Speaker 1: the wrestling sponsorship seems to have been a big deal

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Speaker 5: Way oh, YEAH i. Know he was pretty well, known

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Speaker 5: AND i think it was an advantage to Be Hank

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Speaker 1: Life was he really a? Junior, yes My.

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Speaker 5: Henry Isler williams and my dad Was Henry Isler williams.

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Speaker 5: Senior AND i used that on some of my. Passwords

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Speaker 5: Henry isler because it's so. Weird you you, know you

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Speaker 1: Something where did come? From?

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Speaker 5: Yeah you, KNOW i don't know. That my father's dad

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Speaker 5: me he JUST i really don't know WHERE i mean

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Speaker 5: because she had so many kids having to do different

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Speaker 1: Unusual isler did he give you a FREE?

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Speaker 5: Tv he probably, did you, Know Curtis mathis In. ARLINGTON

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Speaker 5: i think it Was arlington now. Started what they did

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Speaker 5: is they give you A tv for a week for,

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Speaker 5: free and then they get you hooked and then you'd buy.

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Speaker 5: It it was really a pretty good concept way back.

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Speaker 1: When, Man i've seen SOME i was about to start

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Speaker 1: talking ABOUT tv theft out of target when there's, Right

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Speaker 1: but that's a different story for a different. Day. Pat,

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Speaker 1: yeah and what did you.

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Speaker 5: Different group of? People you, KNOW i lived in The

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Speaker 5: woodlands for thirty years And i'm still a real estate.

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Speaker 5: AGENT i worked For remax and now my, Son George,

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Speaker 5: snyder Owned Southern Star properties and and he's my.

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Speaker 1: Broker he's your son and your. Broker, yeah you're not remaxing.

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Speaker 5: Properties. Yeah AND i in, FACT i just had a

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Speaker 5: listing And creekside in The woodlands that just. Sold so

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Speaker 5: even Though i'm seventy, Five i'm still working every.

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Speaker 1: Day you know WHAT i love about, You, pat what

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Speaker 1: you just say what you think without any judgment of

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Speaker 1: whether it's good or, bad or somebody would like it

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Speaker 1: or they. DON'T i, mean If scotty was, fat he was,

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Speaker 1: fat and it's nothing wrong with. That he's a good,

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Speaker 1: Know george he chewed his nails down to the bone

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Speaker 1: And bob he you, know remember he was had a

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Speaker 1: thing for little. Girls and Then, sam of course he

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Speaker 1: went to prison a couple of. TIMES i love. That

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Speaker 1: my grandmother was that. Way she would just it would

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Speaker 1: just come out and it was no judgment one way or.

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Speaker 1: Another it's just that was what it. Was you. Know

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Speaker 5: Got a, Yeah i've got a granddaughter At Sam houston And.

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Speaker 5: said you're just judge, yeah that's the new.

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Speaker 1: Word we need more. Judge it's Like Shirley klucker, SAID

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Speaker 1: i bring back, shame preach on. Shame we need people

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Speaker 1: looking like fools like they do and acting like. Fools Pat,

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Speaker 1: hey you said something Around you said SOMETHING i wanted

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Speaker 1: to go back, to And i'm trying to remember what it.

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Speaker 1: Was told about His oh the straight, hairdresser which is just.

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Speaker 1: Rare his Name.

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Speaker 5: Joseph, Williams Joseph, williams and he's really good looking and

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Speaker 5: had very Devout. Christians his. Wife they got two, children

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Speaker 5: one one daughter is At Texas. Tech and then uh,

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Speaker 5: yeah AND i in The. WOODLANDS i mean everybody knew.

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Speaker 5: Him he was From lebanon and his, Son kevin is

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Speaker 5: now my, hairdresser and he is both were. Straight in,

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Speaker 5: Fact kevin has two, children two little, girls and uh

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Speaker 5: and he works In Marriott. Waterway that's where he. Works

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Speaker 5: he owned a shop with his, dad and both of

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Speaker 5: them were as normal as apple. Pie not. Gay so oh, no.

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Speaker 1: Where they're, Fad, no they.

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Speaker 5: Were both of them are. Cute Now aman. Died you,

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Speaker 5: KNOW i know that sounds, sad but it's just what

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Speaker 5: happens when people get. Older, Really, Okay so But kevin's

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Speaker 5: ony in his. Forties, okay well.

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Speaker 1: There had to be quite an age gap between you

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Speaker 1: And hank if he died at fifty, five and that Was.

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Speaker 5: YEAH i have a sister that's. Ninety we just celebrated

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Speaker 5: her birthday and she was fourteen years older than. Me

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Speaker 5: and THEN i think my Brother henry was four years

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Speaker 5: younger than. Her THOSE i guess he. Was, yes, see

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Speaker 5: if he was, alive he'd be eighty.

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Speaker 1: Five, okay so he was pretty young when all that

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Speaker 1: was going.

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Speaker 5: On, YEAH i just remember what people told. Me BUT

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Speaker 5: i was in my twenties when he owned THE.

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Speaker 1: Tv, place and you've been in real estate all that.

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Speaker 4: Time, NO i.

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Speaker 5: LIVED i got married and my husband was international sales

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Speaker 5: manager FOR Amf, tuboscope and we lived. Overseas in, fact my,

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Speaker 5: Son George, snyder was born In london in The Welwick

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Speaker 5: house Where Lisa taylor used to go just to relax

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Speaker 5: for a.

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Speaker 1: Month that's also, Interesting, pat you have made my. Day

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Speaker 1: i'm so glad you. Called oh you're so. SWEET i

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Speaker 1: bet there's so many people out there that Know Pat

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Speaker 1: snyder that are. Going That's Pat snyder On The Michael Berry. Show.

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Speaker 5: Yeah Well i've been in real estate for a long. Time,

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Speaker 5: yep they know.

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Speaker 1: Me, yeah you'll you'll probably pick up three new listings

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Speaker 1: out of.

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Speaker 5: This oh, Yay, pat thanks for, calling.

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Speaker 1: Sweetheart you're.

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Speaker 5: Wonderful, okay all righty, Bye.

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Speaker 1: Ramon you just never know who's out there. Listening you

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Speaker 1: just never. KNOW i love. THAT i love when something comes.

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Speaker 1: Up you, know the highlight of Drunk March day yesterday

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Speaker 1: was the ups guy honking at him as he drove.

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