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Speaker 1: a playlist of ten episodes of my podcast tech Stuff

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Speaker 1: I roll. Enjoy this playlist. Welcome to tech Stuff, a

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Speaker 1: production from my Heart Radio eight there, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: tech Stuff. I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive

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Speaker 1: And the first one I think is a real doozy.

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Speaker 1: We really knock it out with a funny pair of people,

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Speaker 1: idea of writer's block, which is something that we all

428
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 1: deal with at one time or another where you're just

429
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: you're staring at the empty page and there's just nothing

430
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: coming to you. But just that that pressure of delivering,

431
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 1: especially when you've built up a reputation of certain kind

432
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: of material. Was that ever anything that was threatening you

433
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: guys while you were working on it. Yeah, I mean

434
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 1: it definitely made things. You know, early on we made

435
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: cartoons because they were fun, and then you know, there

436
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: was definitely a period where Saturday Sunday came around and

437
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: we're like, we don't have no ideas for the strong

438
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: bad email we have to make one, and then you

439
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: just kind of have to power through. Yeah, um, which

440
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: is it wasn't really that big of a deal. But

441
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for the expectation that we're there, you

442
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't have done it, you know. Yeah. I mean it's

443
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: tough when you're trying, when your goal is to entertain

444
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: someone and it feels like you know you're gonna have

445
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: to push through it. Then that adds that extra layer, right,

446
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: like you're like, it's not just that I need to

447
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: do it, I need to do it and make someone

448
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: laugh and I'm not having I don't want to be

449
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: doing yeah yeah, um. But I mean that's I think

450
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 1: working in that the way we worked where most of

451
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: the stuff we did we made in the forty eight

452
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 1: hours or so before it was you know, thrown out

453
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: into the world. You know, we made most everything from

454
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: Friday to Sunday. Um, So it was a double edged short.

455
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes it was terrible, you know, probably the

456
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 1: results were terrible, But other times you use that same

457
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: energy and it's like if you sit there for two

458
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: weeks and overthink things, you're you're going to talk yourself

459
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: out of something that's some dumb idea that you know

460
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: could have you know, droped door for instance, is probably

461
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: something that you think about it long. And I was like,

462
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,479
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe we can just maybe he shouldn't

463
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: have this beefy arm sticking out his BacT that when

464
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: you cut, you know, fifteen minutes before you're gonna put

465
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Speaker 1: it live. Just just leave it in. Let's do it.

466
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 1: It's a design choice at this point. Uh. We also

467
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: had the I feel like we had the luxury of

468
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: being able to do kind of whatever we wanted. And

469
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 1: so even if there were those times where we were

470
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: like out of ideas for a strong at email or something,

471
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: that's when we'd be like, well, let's do an old

472
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: time what do we want to do. Let's do an

473
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: old timy cartoon this week. Let's do uh. You know,

474
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: we invented like eighties hair metal band for the Homestar Universe.

475
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: We invented a like indie rock band because that's kind

476
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: of where we were in high school and college, and

477
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: so it's just sort of like, I just want to

478
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Speaker 1: make it like indie rock song this week. And I

479
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: was like, all right, let's invent a band and put

480
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 1: it in a cartoon. And then then that's you know,

481
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,719
Speaker 1: so we it was kind of nice where we just

482
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: have to stop thinking of like we're delivering this formula

483
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: to anybody and a lot of thing, you know, especially

484
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: if it wasn't in the form of a strong, bad email.

485
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure there were fans that were disappointed, but it

486
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: was like, all right, well, that's what you gotta put

487
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: up with. For like I I didn't get burned out

488
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: and hated the thing that you like that I do

489
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: because I got like re energized by taking a little

490
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: flight of fancy or whatever and doing something kind of

491
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 1: um out of our normal wheelhouse or whatever. Um, And

492
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: so I think that we would um employ that I

493
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: think a good bit too kind of helped stave off

494
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: any sort of burnout where it was just like, all right,

495
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: I should shut up because like, not only do I

496
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: get to make cartoons for a living, but I got

497
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: to like blow off making cartoons and go, do you know,

498
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 1: makeup mapa like eighties hair metal song this week? So

499
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: well yeah, and you guys also had stuff on the

500
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 1: site that went beyond like you like. The games are

501
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: a good example. There were various interactive elements on the

502
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: website besides games and little sound boards and things like that.

503
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: You had the live action Troug Door uh trailer, which

504
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: is one of my favorites, and partly because I know

505
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: some of the people were what I was watching and

506
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: I was like, see so fun and Uh, that's the

507
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: beauty of living in Atlanta. And you guys got to

508
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: work with some great Atlanta talent, which I imagine is

509
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 1: is just exploding at this point because we've got so

510
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: many things happening in Atlanta. I'm sure that opens up

511
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: a lot of different opportunities as well, um, which is fantastic.

512
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: But I also want to thank you guys for this

513
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: idea of being able to branch out and try different

514
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: things and and open up different universes, because I like

515
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: to imagine that there was one of those weeks where

516
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: we got blessed with Teen Girl Squad, which is probably

517
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: my favorite of all of the variations that have come out.

518
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: It's one my wife and I still quote consistently, so

519
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: we're always happy whenever we get a teen Girl Squad. Uh. So,

520
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: you know, the popularity of Homestar grew and grew and

521
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: and it's really interesting that you guys were you know,

522
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: you weren't really focused on the analytics. It's not like

523
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: you were, you know, watching those counts. Like you know,

524
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 1: there are people who are are obsessed over that, whether

525
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: it was back in the old web days where you

526
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: had the little visitor counter that would go up by

527
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: one little digit counter to the group every time, or

528
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: now it's obviously like YouTube views and subscriptions, that kind

529
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: of thing. It seems like that was never really, uh,

530
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: something that you guys were terribly focused on or concerned with.

531
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 1: You were just you know, looking at the content and

532
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: creating that, and we didn't want we sort of actively

533
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: didn't look at that because we didn't want you know,

534
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: if we did something that we liked that it maybe

535
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: didn't get the views. That's something else, like we didn't

536
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: want that to affect like okay, let's just make another

537
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 1: trout door or make another stinco Man or something. So

538
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: we would actively sort of try to distance ourselves from

539
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: knowing what was hitting and what wasn't, just so that

540
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: we could so it wouldn't mess with the creative process. Yeah,

541
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: we talked to uh YouTube, a couple of younger YouTube

542
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: guys a few years ago, and uh they were talking

543
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: about how like you know, they used the live thing.

544
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: There's like a live analytics thing on YouTube, like you

545
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: can upload your video and then right then and showing

546
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: you it's just like any other you know, Google analytics

547
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: thing where you can see who is watching it right

548
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: now and if they and you know, if they commented.

549
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know exactly who did what comment.

550
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: You know, they're interacting with the comments or they liked

551
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: or they did the thumbs down or whatever, or the

552
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: moment they stopped watching the yeah yeah, yeah. And so

553
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: he said, it was like, it's like he's immediately watching

554
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: this like focus group, but this is not He didn't

555
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: he's not testing this. This is this guy just made

556
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: this thing and uploaded into the world and he's having

557
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: to like watch this judgment happen like user and time.

558
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: And I was just like, how can you do that?

559
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: He's like, I know it's terrifying, but I can't, like

560
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: I can't look away. Like I was like embraved as

561
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: part of the process, and I'm happy that we didn't

562
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: even we were just for a long time. It was um,

563
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean it was this will sound like a humble

564
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: brag or whatever, but it was like we actually were

565
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: doing crazy enough amounts of traffic that are I don't

566
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: know if it was just that our web hosting guy

567
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: was like lazy and didn't want to like compile these logs.

568
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: So we can see that, like because we occasionally we

569
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: would ask were like, so what can we give us

570
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: our actual numbers and stuff like what are we doing?

571
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: Um and uh, and he'd always be like, it's gonna

572
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: take like a couple of days because it's all these

573
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: like log files and it kind of like chokes on them,

574
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: and so we just never have those numbers. So I

575
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: kind of feel fortunate that we didn't, because I think

576
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: we could have obsessed over that stuff. And now it's

577
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: carried into even though we are you know, we're putting

578
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: stuff on YouTube now and have a Twitter account and

579
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: stuff like that, but like we just don't care if

580
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: like it kind of helps inform, uh, those decisions now

581
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: where I don't think we'll be a good bye, even

582
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: though it seems like that is the way that if

583
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna make money on this stuff, you need to

584
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: like get a million viewers and you need to have

585
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: ad revenue and all that stuff. But it's kind of

586
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: like I'm glad that I'm not sweating that even if

587
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: it's not sure, it's not like crushing if we put

588
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: up a new cartoon and it doesn't hit well. Yeah,

589
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: I mean, like again, going back to the example of

590
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: not not putting all your eggs in one basket. With

591
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: the YouTube example, we've just seen YouTube change their policies

592
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: that in my mind, really hurt people who who specialize

593
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: in short form content because a lot of the metrics

594
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: that they're using is the number of collective hours watched

595
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: per given amount of time, like per month or whatever.

596
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 1: And obviously, if you're producing short form content, you need

597
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: to have way more people watching your stuff to get

598
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: that collective number of hours up. And it's not it's

599
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: not a comment on the quality of the content so

600
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: much is just the quantity of it, which seems kind

601
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: of backwards to me, and it's an if you just

602
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that that's I knew there was a

603
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: change recently. Yeah, it was something along the lines of life.

604
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: I think. It's like, in order to even be considered

605
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: for monetization at this point, your videos need to have

606
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: achieved something like four thousand hours worth of viewing time,

607
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: which obviously, if you're doing short form and even if

608
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: you have an engaged, dedicated audience, you've got to write

609
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of different episodes or or instances in

610
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: or to achieve that. Whereas if you are someone who

611
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: maybe you you record a two hour or three hour

612
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: gaming session and you upload it and there's you know,

613
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: there's a proven audience for that content because it's three hours,

614
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: and because a lot of those people will watch the

615
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: entire three hours of material. You rack those hours video

616
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: when you're set, no right, just watch it yourself. It's

617
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: just wow. Like I remember when the Little black Spot

618
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: was an orange and uh you now here we are

619
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: and then is just desiccated into nothing. Um, this isn't good,

620
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: but it's consistent. Uh yeah, it's it's it's well again.

621
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: A great reason why why going into any one platform

622
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: is a bit of a you know, a danger, because

623
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: you might you might end up having a policy change

624
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: that you have no control over. And it's not that

625
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: your stuff isn't great or that it doesn't have an audience.

626
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: It's just that because the rules changed above you, you

627
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: suddenly have a door closed in your face, which seems

628
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: kind of unfair for anyone who's not like a big

629
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: time content creator like one of the one of the

630
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: superstars um and obviously YouTube has gone through numerous changes

631
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: over it's it's history. I did a three part series

632
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: about YouTube recently and really talked about how it's changed dramatically.

633
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: So there's no guarantee that's going to keep that policy.

634
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: Maybe if there's enough resistance, will change it again, but

635
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: it's one that draws concerned from people who maybe they

636
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: want to get a start, They have an idea and

637
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: they want to indulge in that idea and they hope

638
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: that it brings delight to others and maybe one day

639
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: they can make a living out of it. But it's it.

640
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: Not only is discovery difficult now, but when the rules

641
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: change like that, it's difficult to even get to the

642
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: point where you can start monetizing it. You guys, however,

643
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: had this monetized your your stuff through mostly through merchandise

644
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: and without advertising. Uh. That was also interesting to me

645
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: because like I own some Homestar Runner stuff, but it

646
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: was the sort of thing that I went and searched

647
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: for as opposed to you know, watching a cartoon where

648
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 1: halfway through it tells me, hey, by the way, if

649
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: you want a shirt that has that funny thing that's

650
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: strong bad just said on it you need to click

651
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: this leek here or even at the end where it

652
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't have really been obtrusive in anyway. Our dad always

653
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: wanted us to do that, and we were always to

654
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: our street cred was valuable. Yes, uh, kind of shot

655
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: ourselves in the pot. We're that now amazed that people

656
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: found because it's almost like the store was this easter

657
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: egg that you had if you really searched for home

658
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: Star shirt, you could you could find a bit like

659
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: we were very reluctant to well, it's funny. In like

660
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: two thousand one or two, Uh, we were approached by

661
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: someone from Hot Topic and this wasn't like they walked

662
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: up to us was like a contract for like, hey,

663
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: you want to join you know, your your characters into

664
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: T shirts and make millions of dollars. But they weren't

665
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: starting a conversation that could have led to any you know,

666
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: any different variation of that scenario, and we just wanted nothing,

667
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't want to do it, and we

668
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: we kind of pitched him like, oh what if we

669
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: did these other kind of weirder like jokes from our

670
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: website that weren't like the characters like they want to

671
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: do Team Girl squad shirts and this other stuff, and

672
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: and we ultimately said no. And I forget who I

673
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: was talking to, but it was like a small not

674
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: like an audience I was talking to, but there's a

675
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: lot younger kids, and I like I said it thinking that. Uh.

676
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, then we got approached by hot

677
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: topic and like, you know, so of course we said

678
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: no to that. And then they were all just like

679
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: stared at me, and it's like, why did you say

680
00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: no to that? And I was like it was hot

681
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: hopping topic came to us. I was like you, like

682
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: that would have just killed us instantly, Like it's like, yeah,

683
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: maybe a bunch of kids would have bought stuff and whatever,

684
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: and they're like yeah, and you would have like made

685
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: a million dollars. Well I don't know that, and uh

686
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: and then I probably would have hated what I did

687
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: after that. And they're just like that was a bad decision,

688
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: made a bad decision, and you should have put your

689
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: stuff in hot topics. Good to have life life lessons.

690
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: It comes. I don't know, I get. I like to

691
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: think that the Homestar Runner is therefore responsible for they

692
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: shut up and take my money. Mean, but but I

693
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: mean that I appreciate that too, because again, it was

694
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: that sort of uh philosophy, that sort of while it

695
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: wasn't something that was being overtly stated, it was something

696
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: that a lot of fans appreciated, and you know, taking

697
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: the effort to try and find a way of supporting

698
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: was great because it was it was a show early

699
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: on that you know, I think a lot of stories

700
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: about internet content focus on the negatives, like the idea

701
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: of people who don't want to pay for content so

702
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: they find work around so that they can get it

703
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: for free. But the opposite is also true, where you'll

704
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: find people who are encountering content that is seemingly being presented.

705
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no there's no advertising, you know, there

706
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 1: was there was nothing where there was like a donate

707
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: button or anything. It was like there's a store and

708
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: you could go there and you could purchase things. And

709
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: they said, you know, I want to support the content

710
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: creators that I love and the stuff I love. I

711
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: want them to keep making the stuff because I'm enjoying it.

712
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: And it tells you that there's there's really a place

713
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: for that too. And of course now we see platforms

714
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: like Patreon that have come out to do more direct

715
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: supportive artists, that have proven that point that there are

716
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: people who are willing to do that if you give

717
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: them the opportunity. We've had people tell us like, yeah,

718
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: about ten homestar ounerships. I never were the second one.

719
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: I didn't need anymore and to support you. Yeah. Well,

720
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: and people will say like, you know, I have I've

721
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: purchased enough merch Like I'm not. It's not that I

722
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: don't love you. I don't need any more T shirts. Uh.

723
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: Can you please start a Patreon or something so I

724
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: can give you some money every once in a while.

725
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: What I want to I just don't need another homest uh.

726
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: And so that's that's good to hear that people are

727
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: willing to do that. Every kid at my local elementary

728
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: school now has a homestore runner exactly the thrift store

729
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: of mine Stock. But that's a that's a great I mean,

730
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: that's a great story because it tells you that what

731
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: you have created has actually had a meaningful impact on people.

732
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: And I know it sounds weird to call it a

733
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: meaningful impact when you're talking about a world that has

734
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: a character called the poop Smith. But it's true and

735
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: and it's it's great because it's again, I think it

736
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: illustrates that positive side of the internet, and we so

737
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: well so quickly focus on that negative side. And it's

738
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: good to have something you can point out and say, well,

739
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: you know, look at this. It shows that if you

740
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: have the structure in place, and if you have the

741
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 1: right content in place, people flock to it and people

742
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: want to supp ard it. And you guys have also

743
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: you know, I mentioned you know, you were incorporated into

744
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: the Buffy verse in an episode. Um, you've got You've

745
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: had lots of references in various types of pop culture.

746
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: What was that like seeing the thing that you had

747
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: created start to get referenced by by other like like

748
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: pop culture icons, everything from and they might be giants,

749
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, making music for you And that

750
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: one was pretty amazing because I was we're huge. They

751
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: might be giant fans, giants fans growing up. So when

752
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: they emailed us, that was pretty mind blowing. Yeah, um

753
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: yeah we heard from the Buffy thing I think was

754
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: like somebody at Fox was like, hey don't see us.

755
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: We they don't like, nobody here knows what you guys are,

756
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: but don't we We put a Drogda reference in this

757
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: upcoming episode. Josh is a big fan and they sent

758
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 1: us through it was it was it an entertainment weekly.

759
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: There was some picture that they referenced. It was you

760
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: had a strong bad shirt on and like on set

761
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: of something he was shooting. Um, and so that was

762
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: really cool. Uh, but yeah, that was at the time.

763
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: It was that was pretty mind blowing. Just to know

764
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: that It's like, okay, so people outside of you know,

765
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: whatever weird world we thought we existed in as far

766
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: as fan bases go. People were finding that stuff and

767
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: we've since found out things like, Um, at that time

768
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: when it was a friend of ours worked with Damon

769
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: lindall Off and said that he it was like me

770
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: and Josh Sweden would get in trouble. I was supposed

771
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,959
Speaker 1: to be writing Lost episodes and we'd be closing strong

772
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: band to each other something. I was like, holy crap,

773
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: I was watching when you were wasting time watching what

774
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: I was making. That's amazing. Um. So that kind of

775
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: stuff has been super cool. What was the show those

776
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: that show The Magicians that's on now? This was It

777
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: was nice because it felt like a little a nice

778
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: little like a book end to the like Buffy thing

779
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: where I guess they referenced Trong Door and uh, I

780
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: think it's the season two finale or something, and I

781
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: asked to haven't even seen it. I just people everybody

782
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: told me what the similartle clips of it or whatever,

783
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: which that's always so it's it's always cool to see

784
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: that stuff. Yeah, And then I actually led to other

785
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: things like collaborations where you guys did uh the animations

786
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: for um uh for They Might Be Giants video, which

787
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: is fantastic, and and you've appeared on well, yeah, we've

788
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: done several collaborations with them, the characters have appeared on

789
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: stage where they might be chiants because I've been to

790
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: some of those shows and the variety of playoffs, and

791
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: that was always a joy, uh to the point where

792
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: you I would imagine that was part of the inspiration

793
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: for them to come up out with their band, the

794
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: Them band, the Sock Puppets they where they would wow

795
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: when I would see that come out, and it's like,

796
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: this is this is mind boy, this is happening right now.

797
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: Um and uh and seeing seeing Home Star and Strong

798
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: Bad in uh in person is always a big thrill

799
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: for for me, despite it's so weird to say that

800
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: out loud to the people who actually made that, but

801
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: it's absolutely true. So you go through, you're you're doing

802
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: the the series. It's got you know, it's got some

803
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: some not just US fan support, but it's also blossoming

804
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: in various areas of pop culture. We see trog Door

805
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: get into Guitar Hero two, which is still another amazing

806
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: thing when that when I found out that that was

807
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: a bonus track, I was so thrilled immediately. I was like,

808
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: this is my quest to master Door. That's solo, by

809
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: the way, impossible, and you want to know something, this

810
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: is what We didn't find this out until later, or

811
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: I think we knew it, but we didn't realize it.

812
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: So we played as Limousine, the band that plays other

813
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: ones on live and so the we play with these

814
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: guys that are in the spand yacht rock in another

815
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: band called Saved by the band Um and are uh

816
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: they learned the song and um And so our friend

817
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: that does that plays guitar for us, Chris Harris, and

818
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: he learned the song. He's like, those really knows this stuff.

819
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: As far as like squeally wanky guitar. It's all like,

820
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: he's that's amazing. You can do the tapping, he can

821
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: do all this stuff and it's incredible. And so he

822
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: learned trog door and then we came in a practice

823
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: and he played it and he like nails that solo.

824
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: And then one of the other guys was like, you

825
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: know when we originally recorded that, because he wasn't on

826
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: that song, he was like, that's like that's keyboard. It

827
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: was just like playing four notes. Yeah, and he was like,

828
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: wait what and he was like, yeah, no one can

829
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: play that fast. I was like, oh, I learned it,

830
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: so yeah. But so it didn't surprise me when I

831
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: learned that. I think we kind of told the harmonics

832
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: people that at the time and they're like, that's fine,

833
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: we'll just we're making the guitar so that finastic and

834
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: if they're and I've watched YouTube videos of people who

835
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: have done the perfect run on that on the hardest setting,

836
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,959
Speaker 1: and it's just mind blowing. I can't I can't even

837
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: I can't see as fast as they're playing, which is

838
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: the craziest thing. But then we get up to about

839
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: and it was then when you guys were starting to

840
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: get other opportunities that that also, we're pulling you away

841
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: from Home Star. And as I understand it, it it was

842
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: getting to a situation where it wasn't that you wanted

843
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: to to leave the series. It was that you were having,

844
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, other demands on your time, whether it was

845
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: family or it was other other gigs that were coming up,

846
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: and it just became one of those things where, uh,

847
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: week after week it just wasn't you just didn't have

848
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: the time to dedicate to making more content for Homestar Runner. Uh?

849
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: Is that is that more or less accurate for how

850
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: things turned out? Yeah? I mean we had no idea

851
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: how long it was going to be either when we

852
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: matt second daughter was born. I think that was basically

853
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,959
Speaker 1: when we when we stopped doing stuff and we didn't

854
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: know if it was going to be out. Let's take

855
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: a break for two months, yeah, four years. Well, and

856
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: that's the thing is that, you know, you you take

857
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: those breaks and then other things come up, and and

858
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: obviously you've got all these commitments on your time. Uh,

859
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: and and then you're you're thinking, well, how how do

860
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 1: I how do I communicate this to a fan base? Yeah?

861
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: And then at some point it was like, wait, we've

862
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: waited too long, or like, is it weird to try

863
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: to say something when we don't know what we're saying.

864
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: We don't know, you know, like if we're gonna say, hey,

865
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: we'll do some homestar stuff in a year, we you know, yeah,

866
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: there was no definitive answer. And then at that time

867
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: we didn't know we had like a development deal at

868
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: Disney and a development deal at Nickelodeon, and we were

869
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: gonna make some Yo Gabba Gabba episodes and these things

870
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: that were just like that doesn't mean anything to a

871
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: homestar fan, and maybe we undervalue that. Maybe they would

872
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: have been excited to hear that stuff. But then it

873
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: was like that Nickelodeon thing went nowhere and that Disney

874
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: thing went nowhere, and so that would have been like

875
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: after the fact, would have been like depressing. But I

876
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: was like, oh, they're like, oh yeah, so they're Disney

877
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: thing didn't work out and Tickelodean didn't work out, and

878
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: that like Neo Gabba Christmas episode they directed it was

879
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: horrible and like, I don't know, So it just felt weird,

880
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: especially because we never aside from being like we intimated

881
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: that like we'd had babies and so we're gonna take

882
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: some time off. That's kind of the only time Mike

883
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: and I ever sort of inserted our like Creator lives

884
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: and show the fans heads. I mean, we always intentionally

885
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: aside from some like fake things on a DVD where

886
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: we're like spoofing how we make things, Um, we wanted

887
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: us to be separate from it. We never wanted to

888
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: have the like Creator blog side of it, and definitely

889
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: not the like the way that most of the like

890
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: YouTube personalities are like, even if their content is not that,

891
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: they're like always after the facts like Hey, I'm the

892
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: star of the YouTube thing you just watched. Remember to

893
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: go to the store and buy the new merch and

894
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. It's always just like we didn't want

895
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: to be the face of any of it, you know. Um,

896
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: So it felt weird to then have that conversation and

897
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: after like never really talking to the fans as Mike

898
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: and Matt m at least through the website, to like

899
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: give a weird half as explanation of like, I don't know,

900
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: we don't know. That was that, you know, And then

901
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: that just felt like I would be super unsatisfied if

902
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: I just gotta we don't know what's going on from

903
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: the creator of my thing that I liked, so I

904
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: don't know. We always apologize I we didn't handle it right,

905
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: we didn't know how to handle it right, and we

906
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: are like, there was so funny. The day before we

907
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: put up the first cartoon we made in Forever, which

908
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: was this April Fool's cartoon in UM, I got a

909
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: somebody found my like personal email address a fan. It

910
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: sent this like pages long thing like tearing us apart

911
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: and saying that it's like radio silent, yeah, and for

912
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: and just being like, here's this what this meant to me?

913
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: Here like every week like it was. It was like

914
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: the first half was like super awesome fan, in the

915
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: second half was like and here's why I hate you.

916
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: Will never support anything you've ever done ever again. And

917
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: like literally we're finishing up this cartoon to sell, like

918
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: to upload it like midnight. I get this at like

919
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, seven pm the day before, and I

920
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: think I just I forget. I think I wrote back

921
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: and I just said like, hey, I'm so sorry, thanks

922
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: for being a fan, and just kept it vague and

923
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: sort of hoping that then now maybe that cartoon would happen,

924
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: that they would be like, wait, they listen to a

925
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: lot of amazing turn haf an hour, they made this cartoon.

926
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: Um so yeah, so that was the main reason we

927
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: never we just the explanation was never like exciting enough

928
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 1: to like to like feel like to like peel behind

929
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: the curtain and be like, hey, look behind here, we're

930
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: making a new project, because none of those projects ever

931
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: really happened. Um so yeah, Well, oh sorry, I was

932
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: gonna say we actually made a strong bad sort of

933
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: addressing talking to the fans about it. I forget when

934
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,479
Speaker 1: that was. That was maybe six months or so after

935
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: we had stopped doing stuff and we made this thing

936
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: and then never ended up putting it up because we're

937
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: just like, this is weird. We showed it one time

938
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: at a conference we were at last year. I went

939
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: over kind of weird. Yeah, I think we made the

940
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: rand call. I think I think my favorite. I'm also

941
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: fortunate in that because Lincoln live in Atlanta. Um, I'm

942
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm a frequent patron of Dad's Garage Theater, so I

943
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: actually got to see the special Strong Bad Email Garage

944
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: Theater because I've I've been supporting them since two thousands,

945
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: so I was there at their old theater and when

946
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: they went to uh move into seven stages for a while,

947
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: and now they have their new theater and they that

948
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: was one of the things they showed one night, and

949
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: the crowd reaction when that came on was pretty phenomenally.

950
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: Showed that the Fox Theater that a special They had

951
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,959
Speaker 1: a special event, a special fundraiser at the Fox Theater

952
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 1: and it was kind of a variety show of giving

953
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: an example of the sort of material that they would do.

954
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 1: And they showed the Strong Bad Special Email to Dad's

955
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: garage and hearing the Fox Theater erupt an applause at

956
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: a strong Bad Email was something really special. I think

957
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: that was the second cartoon. I think that was the

958
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: next thing we made after that April Fools in two

959
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: thousand fourteen was that, yeah, strong Bad Email. So it

960
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: had been four or five years since we had made

961
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: a strong Bad Email. Was the reaction to that that

962
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: April first, two thousand and fourteen video. Was that something

963
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: that UH was really gratifying for you guys, because I know,

964
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: at least in my own personal circle of friends, when

965
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: people found out that there was a new homestar Runner

966
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 1: cartoon up. Uh, it went nuts on my Facebook page

967
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: and like it was like it was like what half

968
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: of my friends were sharing. Um, so I imagine like

969
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: when you you know, you've been you've been kind of

970
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: away from it for four years. Uh, was it surprising

971
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: to you to see a reaction? Yeah, it has gotten

972
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: I think Gizmoto and some of the blogs and you

973
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: know linked to it. So that was surprising. And you know, yeah,

974
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: we didn't know. We just sort of assumed that the

975
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 1: few people that sadly still check out Homestar runnerst com

976
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: entered this u r L into their um, their yellow

977
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: keys of their mechanical because it was strong. But I

978
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: didn't have a Twitter yet or anything, right, I mean,

979
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 1: there's really no I guess we had a YouTube page,

980
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: but we didn't, so there was really no way to

981
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: communicate to the fans that hey, we've got this new

982
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: cartoon up, and you went to the site, you know,

983
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: if anyone would really see it, and then if if

984
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: then people did stumble across it, if they would you know,

985
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: be excited about it or pass it on or whatever.

986
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: So that was that was cool and that definitely led

987
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: to it just sort of coincided with the fact that

988
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: I was I was living in l A at the

989
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: time when we made that actually and then we h

990
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: I but I knew my family was moving back to

991
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: the Atlanta area, and so the fact that Mike and

992
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: now we're going to be back in the same town

993
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 1: again and that like it was like, oh, it seems

994
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: like people don't hate us, maybe want to see more things.

995
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: That just kind of was like, all right, well, we're

996
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: back in the same town again, we should a least

997
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: start doing stuff as you know often as we can, um,

998
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: between whatever other gig we were doing. Yeah, so since then,

999
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: we've been doing Home Star stuff, you know, every few

1000
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: months or depending on what the other stuff we're working

1001
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: on is. So sure, So what other stuff are you

1002
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: working on? Since? Uh, you know, we know that Homestar

1003
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: Runner is in good hands. It's going to continue coming

1004
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: out and and keeping Hope alive so that when we

1005
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: do that that jumped Home Star Runner, there's a there's

1006
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: a good chance there's gonna be something new there. But

1007
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: what else are you guys working on? Um, we're just

1008
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: talking to For the first time ever, we've been talking

1009
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: with adults whom locally here, which is and so we'll see.

1010
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: We have no idea if that will go anywhere or not,

1011
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: but we uh, we've known people that have worked on

1012
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 1: shows there. We've known you know, creators or shows there

1013
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: and stuff before, but it never actually spoken with them.

1014
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: And it's actually it's it's great because there's a hilarious

1015
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: I think it's been debunked enough now but for a

1016
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: very long time, if we would ever talk to people,

1017
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: and not that we do so many interviews, but it

1018
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: would come up to be like I heard that you

1019
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: guys stormed out of an Adult Swim meeting and said

1020
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: to them and you're like, no, I mean, I don't

1021
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: know there was ever an overture either way. And we

1022
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: love that. We love that channel and you probably heard

1023
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: the hot topic story. Yeah exactly. Um, but so so

1024
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: that's exciting. So for the first we were just like, yeah,

1025
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: they're down the street. It kind of makes sense, like

1026
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: I moved to l A even though there was like

1027
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: an entire cartoon network you know here as well. Yeah,

1028
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: everyone assume when they find out we're from Atlanta and like, oh,

1029
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: you guys must you know, work with cartoon networking Adult

1030
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: Swim And it's like, now we do stuff with this

1031
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: needy um. But so that's exciting. So we'll see where

1032
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: that goes, um and uh and what else. And let's

1033
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: just we haven't been doing other homestar stuff. You have

1034
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: a couple of homestar like sort of top secret e

1035
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: things that will be revealing soon that will be exciting

1036
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: that we've been spending a lot of that take a

1037
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 1: lot of sort of build up time, secret time, secret time.

1038
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: Fantastic um And I've been um speaking of Sierra Games.

1039
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: There's a park down at the end of my street,

1040
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: and so I've been making King's Quest style graphics of

1041
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: a couple of little parts of the park a waterfall,

1042
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: and so I made this little King's Quest looking waterfall.

1043
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: Oh Man, Roy Roy Roy Moss Senior Memorial Garden. It's

1044
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: called the garden, and it is not a garden. Yeah,

1045
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: runoff retention. I guess that doesn't have quite the same

1046
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 1: ring to it. But it's actually it's featured. It's heavily

1047
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: featured in The Peasants Quest Live actually Janka Cave. Yeah,

1048
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: oh man and uh. I also have to give you

1049
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: guys props for two more eggs because I've been Yeah,

1050
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: so that was we did that with Disney for two years.

1051
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: We ended last you know summers or so. Um, but

1052
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: so that was really good. That was great. We made

1053
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: ninety shorts little shorts for Disney. Nice. That was our

1054
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: That was the last five we did. Yeah, that was

1055
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: our most fun. We did that with our daughters. Um

1056
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: so our three daughters, so good voices and so that

1057
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: was yeah, glad you liked that. That was yeah, that

1058
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: one was certainly fun to make. That was good to

1059
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: know too. We we actually get we get that back

1060
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: so we can actually try and take give Panda practice

1061
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: some more life. A bunch of the stuff we made

1062
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: for Disney, like this day owned. Sure we can show

1063
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: anything else with but Panda Bractice is one of those

1064
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: few that's like, especially like Megan cartoons with your kids,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing better than that. So maybe maybe that'll find life.

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Speaker 1: My daughter's yeah, she's not gonna want to do that

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Speaker 1: with you anymore. Now. It's just I am were going

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Speaker 1: to be changing it. We're not gonna be able to.

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Speaker 1: I recommend to my listeners if you have not seen

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Speaker 1: the series two more Eggs, go to YouTube, and especially

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Speaker 1: the Panda Bractice episodes. They are they are amazing. Uh

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Speaker 1: and and they will make you want to play drums

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Speaker 1: on people's faces. As a local Atlanta too, did you

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Speaker 1: did you get our lowest Yes? Yes. As I always

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Speaker 1: watching it, I was like, this is so clearly a

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Speaker 1: beautiful homage to the Atlanta try is your lowest rights is?

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Speaker 1: Of course I've been hearing that voice forever and uh

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Speaker 1: and yeah, it's not meant in any sort of insulting. Well,

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Speaker 1: I hope I do it. I hope it's respectful. I

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Speaker 1: I could tell as I was listening, like this is

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Speaker 1: this is someone who has genuine affection for that voice.

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Speaker 1: It's not making fun of that voice. And she's also

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00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: a friend of Dad's garage theater, so sometimes you hear

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Speaker 1: that voice if you go to see a show there,

1085
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Speaker 1: which is amazing. So again that's the other thing I

1086
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: love about about watching your content is that it gives

1087
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: me another connection to my home, So it's always fun.

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Speaker 1: And to occasionally explain to people where certain little things

1089
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Speaker 1: come from is always kind of fun too, because it

1090
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Speaker 1: gives them a chance to go down that rabbit hole

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Speaker 1: that uh, the Internet was really created for. Ultimately, that's

1092
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: what the Internet is, right, It's just just one giant

1093
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: black hole of information. Um. One of the series we

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Speaker 1: did for two more ex is called Truncles. It's it's

1095
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Speaker 1: fake British show, and so there's a part with some

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Speaker 1: of the background drawings of buildings and structures in this

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Speaker 1: town of Trunkles are local buildings like around Decators wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Keep your eyes open for the library at Decatur High School,

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Speaker 1: which is this weird sort of that's face. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know it. Well. Oh man, Well, thank you guys

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Speaker 1: so much for coming on tech stuff and spending this time.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate. It's been a thrill for me and

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Speaker 1: anyone out there who's not familiar with with your work,

1104
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: they need to go out and seek it out, because

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00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: it's that level of of surreal absurdity that just the

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Speaker 1: first time I think anyone watches anything, they might just

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Speaker 1: be confused. And then and then after they watched the

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Speaker 1: same thing a second time, they're like, Okay, I'm starting

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Speaker 1: to get it. And then next thing you know, they've

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Speaker 1: watched the same thing fifteen times, and you say, you realize,

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Speaker 1: there's nine of the right that you that you can

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Speaker 1: watch and and in sequence or out of sequence if

1113
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Speaker 1: you prefer, you can really just jump around if you like.

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Speaker 1: But it's great. I can't wait to make um more

1115
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Speaker 1: references with my friends. I really hope that we can

1116
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Speaker 1: get that giant trog door uh portrait with the cutouts

1117
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Speaker 1: over to the Georgia Renaissance Festival. I think I'll talk

1118
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Speaker 1: to the entertainment director. I know him, so we'll see

1119
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Speaker 1: if we can get hitting somewhere like off like in

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Speaker 1: some forest somewhere. We have to like I know exactly

1121
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Speaker 1: where it should go. It's like it's like like listen,

1122
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Speaker 1: I know it's a big hill, and I know it

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Speaker 1: looks like there's not much up there. You will find treasure,

1124
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Speaker 1: right like, trust me. Thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 1: the show. I really appreciate. Thank you. Yeah, so that's

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Speaker 1: it for this episode of text stuff. Thank you for

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00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: tuning in where my guests were a small piece of

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Speaker 1: potato that has been sitting inside transistor radio since the

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventies. Thank you for being on potato. Yes, that's

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Speaker 1: that's that's nice potato, all right, and so join me

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Speaker 1: next week when my guests or me say, apparently it

1132
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Speaker 1: will be that same piece of potato next week. Thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. Don't forget to support this podcast if

1134
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Speaker 1: you're like what you're listening to next week, I hope

1135
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Speaker 1: and maybe the sixteen that was an interview with the

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Speaker 1: creators of Homestar Runner. And we're gonna move right on along.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to keep listening to the playlist,

1138
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Speaker 1: We've got a lot more coming and let me know

1139
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Speaker 1: what you guys think if there are things you would

1140
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Speaker 1: like me to cover as we go through all this.

1141
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Speaker 1: I've got a big series about the PlayStation coming up soon.

1142
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Speaker 1: But if there are any other topics you would like

1143
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Speaker 1: me to cover, reach out on Facebook or Twitter, the

1144
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Speaker 1: handle for both his Tech Stuff HSW and I'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you again really soon. Text Stuff is an I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio production. For more podcasts from my Heart Radio,

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Speaker 1: visit the i Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

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Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows.