WEBVTT - Starring Terry Hu as A-Spen in “Zombies 3

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<v Speaker 1>Sabrina, you are alone today.

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<v Speaker 2>Will is out and about for the Podmets World tour.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you nervous? I am not nervous, but I feel

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<v Speaker 2>a little lonely actually without my co host, mister Will.

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<v Speaker 2>But I am so excited for our new guests. They

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<v Speaker 2>are from one of the most recent shows that we've

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<v Speaker 2>been able to watch and it has now become up

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<v Speaker 2>in my favorites and it is Zombies three and we

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be welcoming Terry Hugh. Hey, how are you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. Sorry, I'm just I'm on my phone in

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<v Speaker 1>a dressing room like this is a robe behind me,

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<v Speaker 1>so I am sorry that this is not more presentable.

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<v Speaker 2>That is absolutely okay. I am so so excited to

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<v Speaker 2>have this amazing interview. It's been such a huge month

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<v Speaker 2>for Zombies and we know you are so so busy.

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<v Speaker 2>You're telling me right now you are actually in a

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<v Speaker 2>dressing room, which means you are on set somewhere, And

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<v Speaker 2>just thank you so much for stopping by, and we

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<v Speaker 2>really appreciate having you here. Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so I'm happy that you guys got connected to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely so exciting. All right, Well, we wanted to start

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<v Speaker 2>right away with your Hollywood origins. We know that you've

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<v Speaker 2>traveled quite a bit, when you know, being born in Manhattan,

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<v Speaker 2>heading to China for a couple of years, then returning

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<v Speaker 2>to the US. And how at that point, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as you're starting to become your own identity as far

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<v Speaker 2>as what you're wanting in life and what you're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to do with the career or what at least

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<v Speaker 2>what your interests are, how did you approach the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of being an actor to your parents? How did that start?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my gosh, you know, I think when I say

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<v Speaker 1>that I approached them, I think it was really more

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<v Speaker 1>that my mom, Chinese immigrant, wanted us to do as

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<v Speaker 1>many extracurriculars as possible, so she approached my brothers because

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<v Speaker 1>I have three older brothers, like kind of the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of let's do this. Like I think there was a

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<v Speaker 1>level of, oh, you know you're going to be this

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<v Speaker 1>will like help them come out of their shells more

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, but also just kind of like this would

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<v Speaker 1>be good for the extracurriculars when it comes to college.

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<v Speaker 1>And then being the youngest sibling I was, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously I am joining as well. You are not leaving

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<v Speaker 1>me out of this. And so that's how I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of got introduced to acting. And then after that, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I kind of just took a knack. I think

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<v Speaker 1>my brothers kind of like liked it, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they really cared for it that much. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think I just really liked it. So then my mom

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<v Speaker 1>was very you know, like as supportive as she could be,

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<v Speaker 1>while also making sure that I knew that it was

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<v Speaker 1>really a hobby as opposed to like a job. And

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<v Speaker 1>my dad was maybe a little less importive, but I

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<v Speaker 1>understand his point of view as well. And uh but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's kind of how I. I guess I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>officially approach him with the idea until after college, after

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<v Speaker 1>I got into grad schools, like that was gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>my path And that's what.

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<v Speaker 2>I was wondering, because you are majored in neuroscience from UCLA, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't just I didn't even mean to but yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this isn't even some like random school. It is

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<v Speaker 2>the school. Especially. I grew up in southern California, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's like you see la, right, But my dad, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not not one person in my family has gone to UCLA.

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<v Speaker 2>He has season tickets to the football seasons. Like, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a huge deal. And so it's not only just

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously you had big dreams and big aspirations,

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<v Speaker 2>your parents had it. But it's like, how do you

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<v Speaker 2>find that pull and that push and you've got you've

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<v Speaker 2>got two sides of your brain work in here, how

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<v Speaker 2>did you end up landing on going to the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>which is acting? Creative? All of that the arts. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think I had to apply to grad

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<v Speaker 1>schools and all that in order for me to feel

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<v Speaker 1>brave enough I suppose to like try to pursue acting,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, I was introduced to acting as a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, and then and then when I got

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<v Speaker 1>to college, I kind of was just like, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a minor in theater, So I minor in theater.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, I'm not going to actually like

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<v Speaker 1>pursue this because my parents would never let me. So

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<v Speaker 1>the dream was to become a physical therapist, open up

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<v Speaker 1>my own clinic, and then do community theater on the side,

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<v Speaker 1>which there's nothing wrong with that, Like that was truly

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<v Speaker 1>folding my plan. I was like, that's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a nice life, like that will be a nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Life, sticking with what you said your mom kind of

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<v Speaker 2>had with you at the beginning, like this is a hobby,

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't a career, got it exactly, And so I

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<v Speaker 2>was like yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it was actually like junior year that I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of was like, oh maybe and maybe I was

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<v Speaker 1>just try like let me just do some.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>So I started cold emailing a bunch of agencies. They

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<v Speaker 1>did not receive it well. I mean, cold emailing is

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<v Speaker 1>so tough, Like I remember this one agency was like,

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<v Speaker 1>unless you're ready to drop, Like I had a final

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<v Speaker 1>and they were like, come meet me during that final

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I have to take the final.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I meet you like tomorrow? And they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not ready to drop everything for acting, you're

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<v Speaker 1>never gonna make it. And I was like, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>exactly where I was when I got that email, and

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<v Speaker 1>I felt so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, yeah, and it's such a cutthroa industry and

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<v Speaker 2>right down the start, you saw it. You saw it

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<v Speaker 2>right there and oh right down and there, wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Right and so so then but then I graduated and

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<v Speaker 1>I applied to schools and I think there was a

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<v Speaker 1>big part of me that was like I just need

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<v Speaker 1>to almost like appease my parents a little bit. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I got to school or I got into schools,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it helped me to know, like I

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<v Speaker 1>have this option because what I ended up doing was

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<v Speaker 1>I deferred for a year. Oh yeah, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you still have your acceptance and so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like I'm good, Like if nothing else,

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<v Speaker 1>I created like a backup option for me, yeah, like school.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that was really helpful. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I would have been brave enough to do it

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<v Speaker 1>if I didn't have that.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, wow, okay, is this is this where

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<v Speaker 2>the ABC Talent Search enters? Is that different?

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<v Speaker 1>Timing worked out well?

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<v Speaker 2>And then you won?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me? You want? I mean, unreal, what

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<v Speaker 2>what did you do for your talent? I needed? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>what did what did you do for this? The show?

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<v Speaker 1>The To be honest, I mean it was It's Look,

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<v Speaker 1>it is just as crazy to me as to anyone

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<v Speaker 1>that I won, because it's just like what, like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, it's just one of those things that you're

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<v Speaker 1>like you hear that someone else wins, but you're usually

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<v Speaker 1>not that someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not crazy to me that you won. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that you're you know, you enter things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and how many people entered, and you know, you're like

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<v Speaker 2>so many people go I just it would be so

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<v Speaker 2>great to get to top ten, top five, like holy crap, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna win this thing, and then that's it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it is crazy. How No, So the process was,

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<v Speaker 1>I literally sent my headshot in and then they invite

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<v Speaker 1>you to audition based on like so your first round

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<v Speaker 1>is just like kind of your headshot and resume. I

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<v Speaker 1>suppose I didn't really have anything on my resume, but uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they just send you a few scenes and

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<v Speaker 1>then you choose and you literally it's just like a

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<v Speaker 1>self tape. Like it's literally just like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not even it's not in person. You sell tape.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I self tape because this one was their digital

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<v Speaker 1>talent competition. But they do a lot of these, like

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<v Speaker 1>they do the showcase, which I've done before too, or

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do the showcase by I auditioned for it

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. But yeah, so then they did that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a comedy scene or maybe a drama scene.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the second one I think was a comedy

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<v Speaker 1>scene okay, and then they literally just it was like

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<v Speaker 1>two self tapes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. But here's the thing. How did you sell tape?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you did you go and rent spas? And like

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<v Speaker 2>good question, you know, like what like what all those

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<v Speaker 2>industry people, those actors know or were you in your

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<v Speaker 2>dorm room or your our apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>I fully found a place rented it, Okay, Like I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so clearly like going into so you.

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<v Speaker 2>Look like a professional. You look like a professional. That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have not known to do that. I would

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<v Speaker 2>have been I would have been trying to draw drape somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, no. I mean honestly, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it probably would have looked good anyway if you did that.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I think I just was like because at

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<v Speaker 1>the time I didn't have any actor friends, so I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of was like I need someone that, like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, knows the industry. And it was like a

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<v Speaker 1>photographer who had done my headshots also had a like

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<v Speaker 1>taping studio.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So and then what was the time frame after you

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<v Speaker 2>win this? Did things start shifting quickly. I mean, did

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<v Speaker 2>zombies come very.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want that?

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<v Speaker 2>Or no, actually I wouldn't say so.

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<v Speaker 1>So I won the Digital Talent Competition in twenty eighteen, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and then at the time I was working at this

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<v Speaker 1>like tech startup. So that's that was how I was

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<v Speaker 1>like supporting myself. Oh yeah, so that's like a whole

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<v Speaker 1>separate side of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that I love, like, I like literally love startups.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm obsessed with like tech startups, which is like such

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<v Speaker 1>a weird, random thing. But uh, and then my I

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<v Speaker 1>was at I was commercially signed at the time. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think after the Digital Talent Competition, it did you

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<v Speaker 1>know understand I think, yeah, Like I think they were like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like let's like sign you theatrically, which I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's always hard to get theatrically wrapped, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they were like okay. And then to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought my life was going to change. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you always think your life is going to change, and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. Like it did change,

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<v Speaker 1>and also it didn't change, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was great, Like I mean, I had my first

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix audition I think January of twenty nineteen. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what it was for, like I remember the exact

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<v Speaker 1>experience of auditioning and uh but yeah, I mean kept auditioning,

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<v Speaker 1>kept auditioning, and then it wasn't untol covid.

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<v Speaker 2>Was when your audition for zombies Zombies and that did

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<v Speaker 2>it just come through as another audition that your age

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<v Speaker 2>was up and on Thursday they want you there at

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. Oh what, Oh that's okay, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Like my entire career has been self tapes.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, know how lucky you are. I just need you

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<v Speaker 2>to know the hardest thing. And it's crazy. You'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>to the most successful actors out there and they'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you they get nervous, like even.

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<v Speaker 1>I need beta blockers or something like I'm shaking, and

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<v Speaker 1>the audience like it's some people love it though some people.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think we're all we've all got a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of illness and the idea that we let

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<v Speaker 2>we drive off of that adrenaline and that nervousness that

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<v Speaker 2>we're conquering when we go and do that and do

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<v Speaker 2>something that you know, it's kind of scary to us.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was it was a tape? How long? Because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering now, I really don't I didn't audition at

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<v Speaker 2>all during COVID, So what was the process. Was it

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<v Speaker 2>a really long drawn out process once you started, once

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<v Speaker 2>you submitted your tape, and or was it? Did it?

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<v Speaker 1>Had? I wish I had back dates, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like maybe in total it was like three weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's quick, that's I mean, I could be could yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, but with COVID, I feel like there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many things in the world that were taking forever, so

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I didn't know if that's also how the

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<v Speaker 2>industry was at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that, you know, I was grateful to be auditioning.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of the timeline. Yeah, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe like three weeks, because after I booked it,

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<v Speaker 1>I literally left for Toronto a week later, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I think that and like we had we had, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the initial I think I had a call back and

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<v Speaker 1>then I did a chemistry read.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh with my lawn magh. So that was your first

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<v Speaker 2>meet with Milo and May Okay, I gotta I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be real quick to ask had you by then,

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<v Speaker 2>like when you were preparing for your role that you

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<v Speaker 2>were auditioning. Did you go back and watch Zombies one

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<v Speaker 2>and two? Did you have any idea of who they were?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you watch it?

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<v Speaker 1>And at first I didn't. I think they used a

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<v Speaker 1>fake name for the project. Oh it was called like out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of this World.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, Oh, I don't really called it zombies, So

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, I didn't know. And then it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>until maybe the callback or something that I knew. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my best friend and I my best friend was like

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<v Speaker 1>living on my couch in my studio during the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>We watched it. We were like, I remember we were

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<v Speaker 1>watching it. We were like this is like this is mature.

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<v Speaker 2>It's and really good and really good and really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Really mature, like themes and conversations and yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the music was really good, like I love the music

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<v Speaker 1>from like Zombies Wians and of course Zombies three, but the.

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<v Speaker 2>Zombies one just had something super special.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, like my yar the song my year and I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I love.

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<v Speaker 2>It, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>So kind of knew who they were of course through that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was nerve acing for sure. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>sing like a little did they dance at all. So

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<v Speaker 1>they then I did a I did a separate dance audition.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I don't know, and it was in

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<v Speaker 1>my studio and it's on zoom and literally like Draco

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<v Speaker 1>the choreographer, I think literally just put on like she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, let me just put a song and just

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<v Speaker 1>groove to it. Terrifying, terrifying words, most terrifying words I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard. I was like, I I truly blacked out.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you just have to do it, like

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to because I like dancing. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like I'm not like everyone watched me dance, like

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of like to do it just for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's have you have you trained? Like are

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<v Speaker 1>you well for for zombies? I did, I guess, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the rehearsal. And since then I've done

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<v Speaker 1>like dance class and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, but not that wasn't part of your like

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<v Speaker 2>no long with acting and.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, I would not say so at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually I think I had a lot of hang

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<v Speaker 1>ups about dancing, Like I think it was very it's

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<v Speaker 1>very vulnerable, and I think it's very like you know.

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<v Speaker 2>That is wild to me because you can do. There's

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<v Speaker 2>like nothing that it's not a question.

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<v Speaker 1>You can a wild I mean, I I do appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we also had such a good team, like

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<v Speaker 1>they really catered it to everyone. And yes, but the

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<v Speaker 1>song they put on was just like Miley Cyrus, who

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<v Speaker 1>I loved her music, but it was like the Smiley

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<v Speaker 1>Cyrus like eight A M remix that to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't even figure out the beat like I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of did, but like you medium songs, You're almost like

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<v Speaker 1>where's the beat going? Yeah, and I'm literally just like grooving,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think they just wanted to see like they

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much were just like are you can you move?

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<v Speaker 1>Like are you like, can you recognize a beat? Yes? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>think they purposely made the beat a little hard and

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<v Speaker 1>then and then that was that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So then you cast I mean you had really

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just done a few short films things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you book Zombie three and this is like a massive

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<v Speaker 2>Disney production. I mean you're talking forty million dollars to

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<v Speaker 2>make and it's your first like major job. That's that's

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<v Speaker 2>unreal And yeah, I mean I can't and that is

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<v Speaker 2>such a big, big thing to happen during COVID when

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<v Speaker 2>really no one was working, everything was shut down. What

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing opportunity. But do you remember how you found

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<v Speaker 2>out you booked it? Like what were you doing? Who

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<v Speaker 2>were you with?

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<v Speaker 1>What were we all doing on the freaking in the pandemics?

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<v Speaker 1>Who were I was sitting on my couch, sitting you're

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<v Speaker 1>killing on my couch and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Told you to pack your backs because you're leaving next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then I like call my best friends and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, and I think we kind of all

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<v Speaker 1>had like a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit of an inkling, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, you don't know until you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I think the person that I was dating

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<v Speaker 1>at the time was wish you with me? Maybe either way?

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<v Speaker 1>I I yeah, it was. It was a phone call

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<v Speaker 1>from my team, okay, and it was just like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was crazy, Like I remember think when

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<v Speaker 1>I got to Toronto, I remember laying on the bed

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like there have been so many times

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, we as we all do as actors,

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<v Speaker 1>like we've gotten so close and you literally start envisioning

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<v Speaker 1>your life like I'm going to be in Budapest next week,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm going to be flying to like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>London or even Vancouver or whatever, like and then when

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<v Speaker 1>you don't, if you don't get it, you're like you

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<v Speaker 1>you almost feel the loss of something that you never

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<v Speaker 1>was even yours, but you feel that like heartbreak. And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember just being there and I was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is so crazy, Like now I'm actually in Toronto. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just flown to Toronto and like so weird, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, living in an amazing hotel. Yeah, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing cast. Know one I'm about to be a

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<v Speaker 2>part of a ginormous franchise on the Disney Channel. Like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like my dreams are actually happening right now. This is

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<v Speaker 2>for real.

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<v Speaker 1>It was crazy and it was nothing I ever like.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember being being a kid and you know, on radio,

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<v Speaker 1>like Disney Radio would be like do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be like on Disney Channel like auditions here or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd be like like you You'd be like you

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<v Speaker 1>need to go to piano lessons, like you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's it's crazy. I mean, yeah, I'm incredibly incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for zombies.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, and and and and then moving into

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<v Speaker 2>the next really big topic of it, you know, not

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<v Speaker 2>only are you proving to your parents that you are

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<v Speaker 2>making a living now out of this right, which is incredible,

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<v Speaker 2>but you have the opportunity that of becoming Disney's first

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<v Speaker 2>live action queer non binary actor. I was a part

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<v Speaker 2>of the channel. I know everything, all the steps, all

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<v Speaker 2>the things they went to push the boundaries they want

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<v Speaker 2>to open kids eyes to. And you are literally the

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<v Speaker 2>very person, first person that gets to do this. How

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<v Speaker 2>we love a moment And was it a surprise to you?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, was as surprised that Disney was really willing

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<v Speaker 2>to take the step.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, I think, I think because of the

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<v Speaker 1>way that they you know, I think that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the world has changed a lot and it is still

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<v Speaker 1>ever changing and stuff like that. But I think because

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<v Speaker 1>of the way the team that I got to work with,

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<v Speaker 1>including the casting directors and all that stuff, like they

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<v Speaker 1>were the way that they were. It almost made it

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<v Speaker 1>seem like they were just like, yeah, like, wait, Terry's

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<v Speaker 1>not binary, Let's make the character non binary, because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't actually think the character was written.

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<v Speaker 2>As I was gonna ask you, was there any indication

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<v Speaker 2>on the scripts or anything that you saw prior when

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<v Speaker 2>you were auditioning like was that part of the honest

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<v Speaker 2>or was it something that happened just organically because they

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<v Speaker 2>they saw you as the person that you are.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean, I do think that they were

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<v Speaker 1>auditioning like both like cis gender cis male and SIST

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<v Speaker 1>female people, and so I think maybe they were like

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<v Speaker 1>open gender. I'm trying to think like the breakdown. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was maybe like open ethnicity, open.

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<v Speaker 2>Gender, okay or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought it was just the way that they

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<v Speaker 1>were so, I mean, they were so supportive. Obviously I

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<v Speaker 1>understand and have heard how huge this it was, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just really so grateful that the way that they

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<v Speaker 1>made me, that they treated me personally like it was

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<v Speaker 1>very it was very normalized yet supported. Like it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like they were dismissive like yeah yeah, like they had

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<v Speaker 1>like we had a non binary inclusion consultant, which I

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<v Speaker 1>was like what, I didn't even know that that was

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<v Speaker 1>a thing, Like wow, yeah. I think like everyone really

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do right, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And they wanted. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that. I was super grateful, and I also

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<v Speaker 1>just like, you know, for me, it's like I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>happy to be there as an actor, like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>like I am the first, Like I didn't get into

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<v Speaker 1>this to be the you know, yes, the first non binary.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, I'm happy to be here. And also

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so grateful that people are trying their best, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like that's I know, I'm being incredible. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it. It just shows Disney really does care,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And one of the things that I love

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<v Speaker 2>we keep, you know, having all these amazing interviews with

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<v Speaker 2>people that have worked for the Channel, And my favorite

0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.840
<v Speaker 2>thing about it is knowing that my experience with the Channel,

0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:11.560
<v Speaker 2>which was amazing and supported and you know, they really

0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:15.800
<v Speaker 2>cared about so much, and I love binding out that

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<v Speaker 2>they were like that with everyone. It wasn't like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because you can have a good experience and then the

0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:25.560
<v Speaker 2>next person can have a terrible sure, right, and you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The industry is so large and there's so many suits.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not, of course, we I'm sure, like you know,

0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:36.399
<v Speaker 1>there's the space for whatever people's experiences have been, but

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<v Speaker 1>like I do, I know my experience only, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure for you too, And I'm so grateful. Yes, whether

0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:45.720
<v Speaker 1>it's Disney or any other project, I just I don't

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<v Speaker 1>take it for granted, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when it comes to the rehearsal time, that

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<v Speaker 2>was always my favorite with my stuff on. Yeah, the

0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:04.520
<v Speaker 2>rehearsals and the bonding and the you know, the water breaks,

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<v Speaker 2>the snacks that of getting to know your cast and

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<v Speaker 2>do you have any fun memories from that that that

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<v Speaker 2>just always stand out to you when you think about

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<v Speaker 2>rehearsal time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, rehearsal was. We had dance rehearsal for like for

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<v Speaker 1>like a bit, so that was just like so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And we worked with the dancers in Toronto who are

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<v Speaker 1>so incredibly talented, like, oh, you know, I think as

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<v Speaker 1>scary and vulnerable as the dancing was for me, I

0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:33.320
<v Speaker 1>think I liked having an excuse to dance, like I think,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was really cool. And also Draco and

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<v Speaker 1>Taya like the choreographers, they were amazing and Alisha too

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<v Speaker 1>was Toronto based. They were so incredible wow, and so

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<v Speaker 1>like so talented but really like just gracious I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and very approachable and so I think that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>made it really like easy and then also like you're

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<v Speaker 1>going into an existing franchise, so it can be intimidating.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, you know, such good leaders of that whole group. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>they were there were so sweet and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like just even thinking about them in the chemistry read

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<v Speaker 1>the way that they were then is the way that

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<v Speaker 1>they had always been like very just like sweet and

0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:13.320
<v Speaker 1>welcoming and really I don't know, I think like the

0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:16.760
<v Speaker 1>dancing automatically kind of bonded us also because you know.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something about music and the word groove. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 2>something about the rehearsal, the vibe everyone's working hard, you

0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:31.119
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, every there's parts where everyone struggles

0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:32.960
<v Speaker 2>a bit, you know, and all that kind of stuff.

0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:36.040
<v Speaker 2>There's something about it, like a dance rehearsal that really

0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:38.679
<v Speaker 2>bonds you in such a great way that when you

0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:42.080
<v Speaker 2>go on to do the film, you already have this

0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:46.760
<v Speaker 2>really organic chemistry that's already just kind of rude. But

0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:49.920
<v Speaker 2>what about was that was the rehearsals. Then, the first

0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:52.880
<v Speaker 2>time you met Kira and Matt in person, I think

0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:56.840
<v Speaker 2>it was okay because we had we had two weeks

0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:59.359
<v Speaker 2>of quarantine when we got to the hotel.

0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:03.879
<v Speaker 1>And so we weren't like in your room, and so

0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:07.159
<v Speaker 1>we were all like on zoom playing games together like

0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:07.639
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that.

0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:11.359
<v Speaker 2>So we had met over zoom a bunch. Okay, all right,

0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:15.400
<v Speaker 2>because it would I would assume on set those two

0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:17.480
<v Speaker 2>are the ones you spent the most time with, right,

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Your most scenes are at least the you know, three

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:23.359
<v Speaker 2>of you and then other people were coming in, but

0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:26.560
<v Speaker 2>you guys are the majority of your filming together. Yea,

0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:29.000
<v Speaker 2>So how was that? Like, was it right off the

0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:30.520
<v Speaker 2>bat that chemistry happening or.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think it was so sweet and like,

0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:34.679
<v Speaker 1>I think it was such a nice trio. And you know,

0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I also think it was very much an ensemble cast,

0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Like as much as we were together, honestly, I think

0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:43.120
<v Speaker 1>we actually all spent a lot of I think because

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:46.879
<v Speaker 1>of the dance Dancess, like, we honestly all spent a

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:49.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of time together. Like obviously the aliens had some

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:50.919
<v Speaker 1>of their own parts and stuff like that, so we

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.720
<v Speaker 1>did spend that time. But overall, it honestly felt like

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:56.879
<v Speaker 1>a big cohesive unit, like everyone kind of was hanging

0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:58.440
<v Speaker 1>with everyone.

0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so I can't imagine how many of like

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:03.000
<v Speaker 2>those director chairs were out for you guys to sit,

0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 2>and there's like twenty of them. There's, like you're saying,

0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 2>for real, an ensemble cast. There's so many when you

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:12.160
<v Speaker 2>got the the werewolves, the zombies, the cheerleaders, and now

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:12.959
<v Speaker 2>the aliens.

0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy exactly.

0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:17.840
<v Speaker 2>So how did you feel? I mean, I loved it.

0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:19.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Were you a big were you a

0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 2>fan of Disney before? Like Xenon is one of the

0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:27.120
<v Speaker 2>most epic D coms ever made, and I was. I

0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:29.240
<v Speaker 2>was loving those vibes that we were sort of getting

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 2>in the once you guys entered, you know, entered the

0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:38.120
<v Speaker 2>chat here zombie zombie chat. Did you guys like your uniforms?

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 2>What was what was the conversations about the blue hair?

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Was there an option to dyet?

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Or was it? Oh? My hair?

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I was gonna say if that was not your hair.

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.360
<v Speaker 2>That wig was one of the most expensive wigs I've

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 2>ever seen because it looked so good. Your hair looks

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:55.720
<v Speaker 2>so good, Okay, so wow, you dyed it.

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:58.359
<v Speaker 1>I actually cut my hair for the role and I

0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 1>dyed it. Wow. I was the only one that died it,

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 1>which you know, was really amazing and also had its

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 1>own struggles because I have really dark hair obviously, so

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:08.880
<v Speaker 1>like the way that it stays and you know, stuff

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 1>like that. But when it was good, it was good.

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:11.880
<v Speaker 1>It was really cool.

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Did you keep it? How long did you keep it

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 2>after filming where you were like I'm dig in this,

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:18.879
<v Speaker 2>kept it for a while? Yeah, And did you just

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:21.119
<v Speaker 2>let it grow out or did you I mean you probably.

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Transformed it eventually.

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:25.360
<v Speaker 2>That's another podcast that's a hair podcast just.

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 1>About hair, just about hair. Yeah. But yeah, I mean

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 1>the costumes, like you know, they I love the whole

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:36.920
<v Speaker 1>that whole team, the hair team and everyone, like, oh god,

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 1>they really worked hard, especially being like non binary. I

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:42.919
<v Speaker 1>think they were very like you know, or how do

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 1>you feel about this? Like do you want to bind?

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to do this? Like whatever? And something

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that speaks to it is you know, I

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 1>had a doll made after Aspen and they literally consulted

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:57.360
<v Speaker 1>me on like the dolls like body and just being

0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 1>like what, like what do we want for it? Because

0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:02.239
<v Speaker 1>all is non binary, Like you know, if it were

0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:06.160
<v Speaker 1>more like CIS genders female doll, maybe we would generally

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 1>make it more curvy or whatever it is, like what

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 1>do you want? Like? But all of that those things

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:13.919
<v Speaker 1>were like taken into consideration. Wow, I know, I know

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:16.959
<v Speaker 1>I feel grateful or whatever it is.

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, that is amazing. I love that. I mean

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 2>that sounds it just sounds like you were really just

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:30.919
<v Speaker 2>everyone was just being very adamant of doing it correctly

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:33.879
<v Speaker 2>and making sure that you were the one that was

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 2>spearheading it because this was who you are, you know,

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 2>and they wanted to do it right. And I love that.

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 2>So Paul Howan, we got to talk about Oh my

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 2>buddy Paul. Yeah, so I've gotten to work with him

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 2>as well. He worked on Cheatah Girls three, but we

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:55.440
<v Speaker 2>and so he's been on the podcast, we've interviewed him,

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.400
<v Speaker 2>but not just that, I mean, he's done. I'd say

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 2>it feels like at least been d percent of dcom's

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 2>out there. We have like reined him into his kingdom.

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 2>This is, of course, this is you know, Paul Lane.

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 1>His dcom kingdom.

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:15.159
<v Speaker 2>Because absolutely, and I know how supportive he is about

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 2>his actors. So I'd love for you to kind of

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 2>talk about your experience with working with him.

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:22.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he is. That's what I remember too, like and

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's been so long now, but I felt

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:26.920
<v Speaker 1>like he was very approachable. Like I was obviously really

0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 1>nervous because it was like my first feature, and like,

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, but I remember I think like even just

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 1>during the rehearsals and stuff like him being very open

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to us asking questions and just like checking in. And

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think something I actually remember is more

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>after the film came out. I like him checking in

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:47.919
<v Speaker 1>on me. And I think at the time, honestly, I

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:49.440
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, I don't like have a plate because

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I had moved out in my apartment, and so I

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:54.719
<v Speaker 1>think I was like, oh, like I he was like, oh,

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I think I know someone who's subletting a place, like

0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:58.640
<v Speaker 1>if you need, like just the kind of it felt

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:00.919
<v Speaker 1>like a friend looking out just all. I do feel

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 1>like he was so approachable, and I think maybe that

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:05.639
<v Speaker 1>was the biggest thing for me. It's like whether a

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>director is approachable, you know, because they can be so like, oh, oh,

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:11.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, and and he's so like I like it

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:14.920
<v Speaker 1>because he's so I don't think soft spokes spoken is

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 1>the right word, but I think he's like so gentle

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 1>at least that was that was my experience with him,

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>and like and yeah, supportive of everyone like trying their

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 1>own thing, you know.

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:31.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I love that. Yeah, yeah, awesome. Okay, So we

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.639
<v Speaker 2>got to get back a little bit more with the movie.

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 2>So I loved this movie. I loved the specific choreography

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 2>that you guys had in your alien characters, and I mean,

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I felt like it was such a great addition to

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 2>what we've already seen zombies as zombies. But as much

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 2>as I want to hear all the amazing things, I

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 2>wanted to know, like, what did you find was most

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 2>difficult during your time of filming? Everyone goes through sort

0:28:59.920 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 2>of a little bit of challenges with each rule, right,

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 2>that's just inevitable. Whether it's I couldn't ever find anything

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 2>that I liked to eat, I was starving the entire time. Like,

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 2>whether it's that or you know, things that were with

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 2>your character or what was probably the most difficult thing

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 2>while filming Zombies? I think for.

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Me probably like as a human and actor, staying grounded

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:25.239
<v Speaker 1>in like my own actual life, like because I do

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>think that it was. It was my first experience of

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I never went to camp as a kid

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 1>or anything, and also I had never done a future

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and also it was an on location feature, Like I think,

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>staying rounded in like my real life, if you will,

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and just almost feeling like you know, it's like the

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>you just kind of feel like set life, like this

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 1>is my entire world. Everything that happens here is going

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 1>to last forever, and it is going to be my

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 1>entire world, and my life is this set which it was,

0:29:57.440 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 1>and at the end, you're gonna come have a calm

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 1>down and you're going to go back to your life

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>wherever it is and have to look for apartments and

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>be like whoa. And I think like keeping that like

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>it that whole experience on obviously, you taught me a

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 1>lot about the sort of mental health I suppose, and

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 1>mental sort of like boundaries in a way that you

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 1>that I benefit from, like practicing I suppose, and kind

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 1>of like just like knowing, like just staying grounded honestly. Yeah,

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>And like I think that that's really important as we

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>go through our careers.

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do. And I think that's not something that

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 2>the outside world really quite expects, you know, somebody it's

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 2>good for It's good for somebody who is an upcoming

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 2>actor that they understand that aspect because it is a

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 2>lot of ups and there. Sure if you aren't you know,

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 2>taking care of yourself mentally in a positive way, that

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 2>can overcome you, you know, and it can make your

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 2>certain things a lot more difficult. And that's awesome. I mean,

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, and it and the crazy part is it

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 2>all comes with experience.

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 2>You really it's hard to really prepare yourself until you

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 2>get to that point. Yeah, so you know, that's that's

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 2>something that is tough when people ask me. You know,

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure now that you've you've you've had your own journey,

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 2>people ask me all the time, Oh, my kid really

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 2>wants to be an actor? How do I you know,

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 2>what do I do? And I'm kind of like, first,

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 2>you need to make sure your kid is the kid

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 2>that can handle what the industry brings. Otherwise it shouldn't

0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 2>be a career. It should be I mean, I'm getting

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 2>on your mom's side here, it should be a hobby

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 2>because it's it's a tough career and you got to

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 2>have the thick skin because it's not for everyone.

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I completely and I respect that takes so much. And honestly,

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel like ever since my interviews, the first interviews

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I've done, like you know, when Zombie started, like I've

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>always felt kind of a guess quite maybe a Dobbie

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>downer or like a like a at the risk of

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 1>sounding like boring, I'm just like, but yeah, my thoughts

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 1>are exactly the same. Like I think it's easy to

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>be like chase your dreams, chase your dreams, and yeah,

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 1>like chase your dreams, but like have some weirdwithal about

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 1>it because it.

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Is incredibly tough.

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think the mental aspect is so important because

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't I do think the career is about like

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>staying in it. Staying in it, like you are never

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>going to book if you never audition, and you're never

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna audition if you don't stay in it, like you know.

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 1>And so it's like, but you can't stay in it

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 1>if your mental health is horrific, like you know. And

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 1>and so I totally agree with you on that, and

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad, I'm honestly glad to hear you say that because.

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Because I mean, it's I think it's very true, and

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 2>it comes with every career, whether you're wanting to betly

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 2>or you're wanting to be a lawyer. It's like, oh,

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 2>I want to be a lawyer, And it's like, do

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 2>you know how much schooling that is? So many years

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 2>of tests and you know you have to be able

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 2>to prevay yourself fully. Not every dream is important, but

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 2>there should be people you should look into it, make

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 2>sure that this is the right path for you. You

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 2>not just think it's gonna be all nothing nothing is

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, and.

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Set yourself up. Yes, exactly, think that there's no shame

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>and honestly like this is such I don't know, boring talk,

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess, but like and having like transferable skills, like

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't think like it's so lame, but I really

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>like like something that you can get a job and

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 1>pay your bills, like seriously, like take care. I feel

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 1>so passionately about it.

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely absolutely all right back to the movie. I okay,

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 2>we've got so when as you I'm still thinking about

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 2>just kind of how everything is evolving, right we haven't

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 2>even gotten to the fact that it blew up and

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 2>was an incredible movie for the franchise and everything. But

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 2>were you excited as as things were developing on set

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 2>everything was working. Was that romantic storyline that you had

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:55.480
<v Speaker 2>with Willa? Was that something from the beginning or is

0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 2>that something do you think that ended up? Kind of

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:00.120
<v Speaker 2>because it comes at the end and you know, or

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 2>towards the end, then we get to see that you

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 2>guys are really you know, having your romantic storyline play out.

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Were you excited about that or was that something that

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 2>happened right away?

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 1>No, really excited. I actually don't remember now what a

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 1>scot was written into the script. I think that it

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:20.399
<v Speaker 1>might have came later, and I think we were also

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 1>like you know, wanting to make sure Chandler's on board

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:24.720
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. Sure, I was very, very excited.

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it was really cool because it was very subtle. Yeah,

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>some people could have missed it, and I think that's okay,

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>But I think it was like really subtle, and I

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>liked that it wasn't made into such a thing like

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, So I was very happy with it. And

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Chandler was such a obviously like so supportive and stuff too.

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, that's awesome. Shocked doesn't even describe my feelings

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 2>on the fact that you are not in zombiesfore. And

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking that that actual, like you said, it

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 2>was very subtle, was also just a play into what

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:07.359
<v Speaker 2>we had to look forward to for Zombies four. So

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 2>I need to know who I need to write my

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 2>letter to about Zombies five, because if I don't see

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:16.239
<v Speaker 2>what happens with the two of you, I might lose it.

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 1>And then when you find out I will.

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I will let you know, and I will write that

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 2>strongly word letters and that I will talk to you.

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:27.319
<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm probably gonna see my friend Paul, and

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 2>I am going to have to have the conversation. I will,

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:34.760
<v Speaker 2>I will, I'll get your number. I'll get your number.

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 2>But that's exciting that you guys had to and then

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:43.280
<v Speaker 2>you know again the the movie comes out. Everything's great

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 2>so much that you end up becoming part of the

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 2>animated series. I mean, and you were able to bring

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 2>this character to life as a cartoon. Yeah, that's the

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 2>dream job for me. Voiceover work is I had a

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 2>little bit of it. So fun. Yeah, how did you

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 2>love that? Did you love it? Wasn't tough? I mean,

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 2>a whole new barrier, I mean, why was that?

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I loved it. I loved it. It actually introduced me

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 1>in a more serious way to voiceover work, like I

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:18.760
<v Speaker 1>do more voiceover auditions now. I loved it. The team

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>was incredible and so funny, like actually the scripts are

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.319
<v Speaker 1>like laugh out loud funny, like truly, and just being

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:27.799
<v Speaker 1>in the room like them pitching on the spot like

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:32.720
<v Speaker 1>they're so funny and uh no, I'm super super happy

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 1>to have been part of that, and like I wouldn't

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 1>say that was so incredibly hard just because it was

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 1>the same character, like I'm reprising my role as Aspen,

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 1>But you know, there were definitely I learned a lot

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 1>about just like the ways to hit the vocal ranges

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 1>and vocal feelings and tones, like to really emphasize things more,

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, because you don't have your face show reactions.

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 1>But they did such a good job like the animation

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 1>animators and stuff. So yeah, yeah.

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:01.400
<v Speaker 2>That is so awesome. I wish that Will, my co host,

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 2>was here, because if you are going to be in

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:07.240
<v Speaker 2>voice acting, you have got to know his name because

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:11.319
<v Speaker 2>he is like truly a god in that day. He

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 2>has done so many things and I mean I and

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 2>he can and he does it while we're doing our interviews,

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 2>and it just is it's so incredible to watch his

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.799
<v Speaker 2>range and he can do so many accents and I

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:25.959
<v Speaker 2>mean to where it makes me timid to go, Okay,

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 2>maybe I can't do that, because you love that. I know. Yes,

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 2>we'll have to come back on maybe when we when

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 2>we get a chance to do something else, we'll bring

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 2>you back.

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 1>On and and we'll talk about.

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, and we'll talk about how you how you

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:45.359
<v Speaker 2>transition exact to absolutely Okay, Now we're going to get

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:48.399
<v Speaker 2>to some some hot more hot topic questions here we go.

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 2>So we've heard that we've interviewed a few of your

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Zombie cast members. We've got Meg, Trevor, Kylie, and we've

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 2>been told by pretty much all of them that they

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 2>there's these groups that happen once everyone starts meeting, and

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 2>that you guys have kind of like these texting group

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 2>chats that go I gotta know, and I as soon

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 2>as I got off the interview, I think it was

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:14.760
<v Speaker 2>with either Meg or Kylie that I was like talking

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 2>to Will and going, I wonder who is the best texter?

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Like who keeps those texts going as as the time

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 2>goes on? That's the one that kind of keeps everyone

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:28.920
<v Speaker 2>just in the chat, you know, active a bit and stuff.

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:30.720
<v Speaker 2>Who would you think that would be?

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:32.400
<v Speaker 1>So, you know, that's such a good question.

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:37.279
<v Speaker 1>I think that Meg does really well with being intentional

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and being like, hey, guys, like let's all I catch

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 1>up like that that sort of thing, which I really appreciate.

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:42.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:47.279
<v Speaker 1>I think that James, who plays Bonzo, Okay, is very

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:49.959
<v Speaker 1>like we'll just say like these one liners. Sometimes that's

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:51.919
<v Speaker 1>just like so random and like I feel like it's

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 1>like that.

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 2>That's hilarious to think of him because all we know

0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:59.319
<v Speaker 2>him as is Bonzo. We have got him on an

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 2>interview and it's like this guy we're in movie three

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:04.879
<v Speaker 2>can't still can't freaking talk. He can't. He hasn't nicked

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:06.719
<v Speaker 2>up anything, you guys, he's been around at all.

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:10.799
<v Speaker 1>He's so committed to hisself, you know, and we respect that.

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I guess you just have to be respectful of it.

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 2>But it's like, comm Bonzo, you gotta give me something exactly.

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I feel like a Meg Meg. Yeah, she seems like

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 2>a very good mama bear of the group. Yes, she's

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 2>like just seems like you just if you need a hug,

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:31.839
<v Speaker 2>you go to Meg. That's what it seems like. I

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 2>love it.

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, they both like her and Milo

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 1>started in these essential like leadership positions at a very

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 1>young age. Like you know, yes, I think they hold

0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:40.879
<v Speaker 1>it well.

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think she considered herself a grandma at this point,

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.400
<v Speaker 2>and she filmed Zombies four. She felt like she was

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:49.479
<v Speaker 2>a grandma at that point. She's like, I started off

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 2>as a young actor and now I feel like I'm

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 2>a grandma to all these new actors coming in. So

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 2>I love that. Though. All Right, if you had to

0:39:57.200 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 2>pick a species to join, and it can't be it

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:04.800
<v Speaker 2>can't be an alien, it's gotta be zombies, were wolves

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:08.319
<v Speaker 2>or even and we haven't seen them yet, but the

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 2>new vampires, who would you pick?

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I haven't seen the new vampires, but I'm feeling

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 1>like it would be were wolves for me. Anyway.

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 2>I think they're the best one.

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I have, like the coolest like dances, coolest song.

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 2>I did love the Aliens version, I really did, but

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 2>thank you. I yes, there's something about that style that

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 2>the choreographer decided was for the were Wolves that is

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 2>just on freaking point.

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 1>There's like some dance moves like in their song come

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 1>on Out, and there's some dances on like it's like

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:46.239
<v Speaker 1>ingrained into my mind. I'm like, the Aliens did not

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:46.920
<v Speaker 1>get to do that.

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you know, but the Aliens had that. That

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 2>that's true. Okay, that's the Aliens one, and that is signature.

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:57.320
<v Speaker 2>I've been thinking about it since I watched the movie

0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:00.399
<v Speaker 2>this weekend. It's good. It's a it's a good, good one.

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:04.439
<v Speaker 2>It's a good one. It's a real sticks it's perfect. Yeah,

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 2>but I do agree that the werewolves, like their entire style.

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 2>There's just something that has a real good spark to it.

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I love that's what it is. It is a swag.

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Okay, I couldn't put my finger on you.

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 2>All right, we do want to talk about something else

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:26.839
<v Speaker 2>you've been in. This will be the justin I got

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:29.879
<v Speaker 2>a couple more and that's it. You also premiered in

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 2>Never Have I Ever? Huge hit for Netflix. Right, You've

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 2>got incredible creator, we've got Mandy Kaling, You've got it's

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:46.399
<v Speaker 2>another young adult obsession. Yeah, I've got to ask you

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:50.360
<v Speaker 2>which fan base is more rabbit? Do we got zombies

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:54.479
<v Speaker 2>or Never Have I ever? Like, really, when when you're

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 2>out there, who are doing the crazy things? Who are

0:41:58.320 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 2>more normal?

0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Really?

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Good question? Is it hard? Is it almost?

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:08.279
<v Speaker 1>I think it's hard because never have it ever? I

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:13.360
<v Speaker 1>was like, my my actual screen time for it wasn't long, Like,

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that much.

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 2>And but given you're recognized from it, though.

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and so even given how short my screen time was,

0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 1>the amount that I get recognized from it is actually

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:25.840
<v Speaker 1>really surprising to me.

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I see, Okay, Okay.

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's because like with the Disney ones, it's like

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not in areas, like I don't go to malls

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:34.319
<v Speaker 1>that much, and that's where like sometimes like there's kids

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:35.800
<v Speaker 1>with their parents and stuff, but.

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 2>You don't live Disneyland. No, no, not all the time.

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:39.120
<v Speaker 2>I used to.

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 1>But and uh so I don't know, like I almost

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 1>feel like they're on par okay, because I'm almost like,

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:50.840
<v Speaker 1>how did like the fans that never have ever recognize

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 1>me so much? But sometimes like the other day, I

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 1>was walking in New York right now and someone walked

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:57.960
<v Speaker 1>by me and was just and just literally went oh

0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:01.839
<v Speaker 1>and like I but then say anything, Oh my god.

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 1>I was like you you could be the age where

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 1>you honestly could be saying that from zombies or never ever. Ever,

0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. Like when it's a kid, it's usually like,

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, zombies, but you.

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Have a lot of adult Disney channels. So true. Wow, Okay,

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:22.839
<v Speaker 2>so they're basically equal because it's there, they're both.

0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I will say, they're both really intense, really passionate.

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:28.400
<v Speaker 2>I love it and that's amazing. All right, last question,

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 2>dream roll anything in Hollywood like an on stage, off

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 2>stage voiceover work now that you've got your your feet

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 2>wet in that, what are you picking? My go Hollywood

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 2>stage voiceover, What do you think you're going for?

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:47.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean the project I'm currently working on right now

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I really love. But that's really tough.

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know that.

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:59.280
<v Speaker 1>It's just my one singular dream role. But I think

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:04.640
<v Speaker 1>that I've always wanted to do something super epic, like

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 1>like I think I grew up watching going to movies

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and coming out depressed because I would be like, I

0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 1>wish I were just like on that screen, Like I

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 1>want something so epic, like something like Interstellar, like that

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:18.919
<v Speaker 1>makes you be like, like you know, like Interstellar or

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 1>like honestly, not Mission Impossible, although that would be amazing too,

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 1>but something that feels so epic like Dune, Okay, like

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 1>something that has beautiful effects where you can only see

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 1>and feel that from on screen, like.

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 2>And that's physical. Do you like the physical aspect of

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 2>it too? Yeah? Yeah, and kind of just like the.

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Larger than life, because I feel like you're achieving this

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 1>sort of romanticization of the world in your life. Like

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, I have a dreams for like indie rolls

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:50.480
<v Speaker 1>too and stuff like that. But I'm more like the

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:54.759
<v Speaker 1>things that are like fantastical, like it's so amazing, you.

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Know, well, I have no doubt you're gonna get there.

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 2>I really, I mean, it was just amazing. I really

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 2>loved watching the movie. And I'm just so excited for

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 2>what's to come for you. And I think you've got

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 2>such such incredible work ahead and you know you are

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 2>just keep going. I'm just so excited for you. And

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<v Speaker 2>congratulations on such an amazing I mean, hitting zombies and

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<v Speaker 2>now you're moving on to big things. Can't wait to

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<v Speaker 2>know if we can know anything about the project you're

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<v Speaker 2>working on now, Oh, I can tell you right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an off Broadway play, the next one from Donnia Tamoor,

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<v Speaker 1>who won a Tony for The Outsiders musical and was

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<v Speaker 1>just nominated for John Proctor is a Villain, which Sadie

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<v Speaker 1>Sink is leading. And so this is Donnia's next project.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's called Trophy Boys and it is four female

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<v Speaker 1>and non binary actors playing private school debate boys team Debaters.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll kind of leave it at that. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a chairical dart comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're back in New York are you. Wow, well amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope to be able to see it whenever I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Out there and let me know if you're New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I will, I will. Well, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for taking the time. He was so busy and again

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<v Speaker 2>loved it was so great and we've got to have

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<v Speaker 2>you on again and have you have you back for

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<v Speaker 2>some more intake. Now maybe we can hear your side

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<v Speaker 2>of what you thought of the new zombies and and

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<v Speaker 2>bringing in these vampires and what kind of gas they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to bring to our beautiful zombie land that it's

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<v Speaker 2>exact now that the aliens are there. All right, Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's thanks for making time until I say.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, oh I will. We'll get you guys a meet

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<v Speaker 2>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. Okay, thanks guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that was incredible. I mean for an actor that

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<v Speaker 2>has been in this industry for not this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of our first actors that really didn't start as a

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<v Speaker 2>as a child actor, got into it after college, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of pushed their way into being able to

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<v Speaker 2>have the opportunities. Talking about cold call cold calls towards agencies,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that is somebody who wants this bad and

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<v Speaker 2>didn't stop, kept pushing, ended up finding their way on

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<v Speaker 2>to the Disney Channel and not just some normal dcom.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking one of the most epic dcoms the channels

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<v Speaker 2>has had. So I am just so excited that that

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<v Speaker 2>interview just happened and we cannot wait to have them

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<v Speaker 2>back on. Thank you guys so much for listening to

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<v Speaker 2>Magical rewind. We are coming back at you guys, and

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<v Speaker 2>we've got another movie coming, so you guys gotta stay tuned.

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