Speaker 1: Sabrina, you are alone today.
Speaker 2: Will is out and about for the Podmets World tour.
Speaker 2: Are you nervous? I am not nervous, but I feel
Speaker 2: a little lonely actually without my co host, mister Will.
Speaker 2: But I am so excited for our new guests. They
Speaker 2: are from one of the most recent shows that we've
Speaker 2: been able to watch and it has now become up
Speaker 2: in my favorites and it is Zombies three and we
Speaker 2: are going to be welcoming Terry Hugh. Hey, how are you.
Speaker 1: I'm good. Sorry, I'm just I'm on my phone in
Speaker 1: a dressing room like this is a robe behind me,
Speaker 1: so I am sorry that this is not more presentable.
Speaker 2: That is absolutely okay. I am so so excited to
Speaker 2: have this amazing interview. It's been such a huge month
Speaker 2: for Zombies and we know you are so so busy.
Speaker 2: You're telling me right now you are actually in a
Speaker 2: dressing room, which means you are on set somewhere, And
Speaker 2: just thank you so much for stopping by, and we
Speaker 2: really appreciate having you here. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm so I'm happy that you guys got connected to us.
Speaker 2: Absolutely so exciting. All right, Well, we wanted to start
Speaker 2: right away with your Hollywood origins. We know that you've
Speaker 2: traveled quite a bit, when you know, being born in Manhattan,
Speaker 2: heading to China for a couple of years, then returning
Speaker 2: to the US. And how at that point, you know,
Speaker 2: as you're starting to become your own identity as far
Speaker 2: as what you're wanting in life and what you're you know,
Speaker 2: wanting to do with the career or what at least
Speaker 2: what your interests are, how did you approach the idea
Speaker 2: of being an actor to your parents? How did that start?
Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh, you know, I think when I say
Speaker 1: that I approached them, I think it was really more
Speaker 1: that my mom, Chinese immigrant, wanted us to do as
Speaker 1: many extracurriculars as possible, so she approached my brothers because
Speaker 1: I have three older brothers, like kind of the idea
Speaker 1: of let's do this. Like I think there was a
Speaker 1: level of, oh, you know you're going to be this
Speaker 1: will like help them come out of their shells more
Speaker 1: or whatever, but also just kind of like this would
Speaker 1: be good for the extracurriculars when it comes to college.
Speaker 1: And then being the youngest sibling I was, I was like,
Speaker 1: obviously I am joining as well. You are not leaving
Speaker 1: me out of this. And so that's how I kind
Speaker 1: of got introduced to acting. And then after that, I
Speaker 1: think I kind of just took a knack. I think
Speaker 1: my brothers kind of like liked it, but I don't
Speaker 1: think they really cared for it that much. And I
Speaker 1: think I just really liked it. So then my mom
Speaker 1: was very you know, like as supportive as she could be,
Speaker 1: while also making sure that I knew that it was
Speaker 1: really a hobby as opposed to like a job. And
Speaker 1: my dad was maybe a little less importive, but I
Speaker 1: understand his point of view as well. And uh but yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's kind of how I. I guess I didn't
Speaker 1: officially approach him with the idea until after college, after
Speaker 1: I got into grad schools, like that was gonna be
Speaker 1: my path And that's what.
Speaker 2: I was wondering, because you are majored in neuroscience from UCLA, Like.
Speaker 1: This isn't just I didn't even mean to but yeah.
Speaker 2: Like this isn't even some like random school. It is
Speaker 2: the school. Especially. I grew up in southern California, so
Speaker 2: it's like you see la, right, But my dad, I'm
Speaker 2: not not one person in my family has gone to UCLA.
Speaker 2: He has season tickets to the football seasons. Like, right,
Speaker 2: it's a huge deal. And so it's not only just
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you had big dreams and big aspirations,
Speaker 2: your parents had it. But it's like, how do you
Speaker 2: find that pull and that push and you've got you've
Speaker 2: got two sides of your brain work in here, how
Speaker 2: did you end up landing on going to the other side,
Speaker 2: which is acting? Creative? All of that the arts. I
Speaker 2: think that.
Speaker 1: You know, I think I had to apply to grad
Speaker 1: schools and all that in order for me to feel
Speaker 1: brave enough I suppose to like try to pursue acting,
Speaker 1: because you know, I was introduced to acting as a kid,
Speaker 1: like I said, and then and then when I got
Speaker 1: to college, I kind of was just like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: a minor in theater, So I minor in theater.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm not going to actually like
Speaker 1: pursue this because my parents would never let me. So
Speaker 1: the dream was to become a physical therapist, open up
Speaker 1: my own clinic, and then do community theater on the side,
Speaker 1: which there's nothing wrong with that, Like that was truly
Speaker 1: folding my plan. I was like, that's going to be
Speaker 1: a nice life, like that will be a nice.
Speaker 2: Life, sticking with what you said your mom kind of
Speaker 2: had with you at the beginning, like this is a hobby,
Speaker 2: this isn't a career, got it exactly, And so I
Speaker 2: was like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And then it was actually like junior year that I
Speaker 1: kind of was like, oh maybe and maybe I was
Speaker 1: just try like let me just do some.
Speaker 2: I mean, who knows.
Speaker 1: So I started cold emailing a bunch of agencies. They
Speaker 1: did not receive it well. I mean, cold emailing is
Speaker 1: so tough, Like I remember this one agency was like,
Speaker 1: unless you're ready to drop, Like I had a final
Speaker 1: and they were like, come meet me during that final
Speaker 1: and I was like, I have to take the final.
Speaker 1: Can I meet you like tomorrow? And they were like,
Speaker 1: if you're not ready to drop everything for acting, you're
Speaker 1: never gonna make it. And I was like, I remember
Speaker 1: exactly where I was when I got that email, and
Speaker 1: I felt so bad.
Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, and it's such a cutthroa industry and
Speaker 2: right down the start, you saw it. You saw it
Speaker 2: right there and oh right down and there, wow.
Speaker 1: Right and so so then but then I graduated and
Speaker 1: I applied to schools and I think there was a
Speaker 1: big part of me that was like I just need
Speaker 1: to almost like appease my parents a little bit. And
Speaker 1: so I got to school or I got into schools,
Speaker 1: and I think it helped me to know, like I
Speaker 1: have this option because what I ended up doing was
Speaker 1: I deferred for a year. Oh yeah, which is like
Speaker 1: you know, you still have your acceptance and so I'm
Speaker 1: and I was like I'm good, Like if nothing else,
Speaker 1: I created like a backup option for me, yeah, like school.
Speaker 1: So I think that was really helpful. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I would have been brave enough to do it
Speaker 1: if I didn't have that.
Speaker 2: To be honest, wow, okay, is this is this where
Speaker 2: the ABC Talent Search enters? Is that different?
Speaker 1: Timing worked out well?
Speaker 2: And then you won?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? You want? I mean, unreal, what
Speaker 2: what did you do for your talent? I needed? Like,
Speaker 2: what did what did you do for this? The show?
Speaker 1: The To be honest, I mean it was It's Look,
Speaker 1: it is just as crazy to me as to anyone
Speaker 1: that I won, because it's just like what, like I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just one of those things that you're
Speaker 1: like you hear that someone else wins, but you're usually
Speaker 1: not that someone else.
Speaker 2: It's not crazy to me that you won. It's the
Speaker 2: fact that you're you know, you enter things like that,
Speaker 2: and how many people entered, and you know, you're like
Speaker 2: so many people go I just it would be so
Speaker 2: great to get to top ten, top five, like holy crap, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna win this thing, and then that's it's amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean it is crazy. How No, So the process was,
Speaker 1: I literally sent my headshot in and then they invite
Speaker 1: you to audition based on like so your first round
Speaker 1: is just like kind of your headshot and resume. I
Speaker 1: suppose I didn't really have anything on my resume, but uh,
Speaker 1: and then they just send you a few scenes and
Speaker 1: then you choose and you literally it's just like a
Speaker 1: self tape. Like it's literally just like.
Speaker 2: It's not even it's not in person. You sell tape.
Speaker 1: No, I self tape because this one was their digital
Speaker 1: talent competition. But they do a lot of these, like
Speaker 1: they do the showcase, which I've done before too, or
Speaker 1: I didn't do the showcase by I auditioned for it
Speaker 1: in the past. But yeah, so then they did that.
Speaker 1: It was like a comedy scene or maybe a drama scene.
Speaker 1: And then the second one I think was a comedy
Speaker 1: scene okay, and then they literally just it was like
Speaker 1: two self tapes.
Speaker 2: Okay. But here's the thing. How did you sell tape?
Speaker 2: Did you did you go and rent spas? And like
Speaker 2: good question, you know, like what like what all those
Speaker 2: industry people, those actors know or were you in your
Speaker 2: dorm room or your our apartment.
Speaker 1: I fully found a place rented it, Okay, Like I remember,
Speaker 1: it's so clearly like going into so you.
Speaker 2: Look like a professional. You look like a professional. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: I guess I did.
Speaker 2: I would have not known to do that. I would
Speaker 2: have been I would have been trying to draw drape somewhere.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. I mean honestly, I think
Speaker 1: it probably would have looked good anyway if you did that.
Speaker 1: But like I think I just was like because at
Speaker 1: the time I didn't have any actor friends, so I
Speaker 1: kind of was like I need someone that, like I
Speaker 1: don't know, knows the industry. And it was like a
Speaker 1: photographer who had done my headshots also had a like
Speaker 1: taping studio.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So and then what was the time frame after you
Speaker 2: win this? Did things start shifting quickly. I mean, did
Speaker 2: zombies come very.
Speaker 1: So I want that?
Speaker 2: Or no, actually I wouldn't say so.
Speaker 1: So I won the Digital Talent Competition in twenty eighteen, okay,
Speaker 1: and then at the time I was working at this
Speaker 1: like tech startup. So that's that was how I was
Speaker 1: like supporting myself. Oh yeah, so that's like a whole
Speaker 1: separate side of my life.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I mean that I love, like, I like literally love startups.
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with like tech startups, which is like such
Speaker 1: a weird, random thing. But uh, and then my I
Speaker 1: was at I was commercially signed at the time. But
Speaker 1: I think after the Digital Talent Competition, it did you
Speaker 1: know understand I think, yeah, Like I think they were like, okay,
Speaker 1: like let's like sign you theatrically, which I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's always hard to get theatrically wrapped, and
Speaker 1: so they were like okay. And then to be honest,
Speaker 1: I thought my life was going to change. I think
Speaker 1: you always think your life is going to change, and
Speaker 1: sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. Like it did change,
Speaker 1: and also it didn't change, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was great, Like I mean, I had my first
Speaker 1: Netflix audition I think January of twenty nineteen. I remember
Speaker 1: exactly what it was for, like I remember the exact
Speaker 1: experience of auditioning and uh but yeah, I mean kept auditioning,
Speaker 1: kept auditioning, and then it wasn't untol covid.
Speaker 2: Was when your audition for zombies Zombies and that did
Speaker 2: it just come through as another audition that your age
Speaker 2: was up and on Thursday they want you there at
Speaker 2: ten thirty. Oh what, Oh that's okay, there you go.
Speaker 1: Like my entire career has been self tapes.
Speaker 2: Wow, know how lucky you are. I just need you
Speaker 2: to know the hardest thing. And it's crazy. You'll talk
Speaker 2: to the most successful actors out there and they'll tell
Speaker 2: you they get nervous, like even.
Speaker 1: I need beta blockers or something like I'm shaking, and
Speaker 1: the audience like it's some people love it though some people.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we're all we've all got a
Speaker 2: little bit of illness and the idea that we let
Speaker 2: we drive off of that adrenaline and that nervousness that
Speaker 2: we're conquering when we go and do that and do
Speaker 2: something that you know, it's kind of scary to us.
Speaker 2: So that was it was a tape? How long? Because
Speaker 2: I'm wondering now, I really don't I didn't audition at
Speaker 2: all during COVID, So what was the process. Was it
Speaker 2: a really long drawn out process once you started, once
Speaker 2: you submitted your tape, and or was it? Did it?
Speaker 1: Had? I wish I had back dates, to be honest,
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe in total it was like three weeks.
Speaker 2: Oh that's quick, that's I mean, I could be could yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, but with COVID, I feel like there's so
Speaker 2: many things in the world that were taking forever, so
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't know if that's also how the
Speaker 2: industry was at that point.
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, I was grateful to be auditioning.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the timeline. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like maybe like three weeks, because after I booked it,
Speaker 1: I literally left for Toronto a week later, and so
Speaker 1: I think that and like we had we had, you know,
Speaker 1: the initial I think I had a call back and
Speaker 1: then I did a chemistry read.
Speaker 2: Oh with my lawn magh. So that was your first
Speaker 2: meet with Milo and May Okay, I gotta I guess
Speaker 2: I'd be real quick to ask had you by then,
Speaker 2: like when you were preparing for your role that you
Speaker 2: were auditioning. Did you go back and watch Zombies one
Speaker 2: and two? Did you have any idea of who they were?
Speaker 2: Did you watch it?
Speaker 1: And at first I didn't. I think they used a
Speaker 1: fake name for the project. Oh it was called like out.
Speaker 2: Of this World.
Speaker 1: I think, Oh, I don't really called it zombies, So
Speaker 1: to be honest, I didn't know. And then it wasn't
Speaker 1: until maybe the callback or something that I knew. But yeah,
Speaker 1: my best friend and I my best friend was like
Speaker 1: living on my couch in my studio during the pandemic.
Speaker 1: We watched it. We were like, I remember we were
Speaker 1: watching it. We were like this is like this is mature.
Speaker 2: It's and really good and really good and really good.
Speaker 1: Really mature, like themes and conversations and yeah, and then
Speaker 1: the music was really good, like I love the music
Speaker 1: from like Zombies Wians and of course Zombies three, but the.
Speaker 2: Zombies one just had something super special.
Speaker 1: Yes, like my yar the song my year and I
Speaker 1: mean I love.
Speaker 2: It, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: So kind of knew who they were of course through that,
Speaker 1: and it was nerve acing for sure. I had to
Speaker 1: sing like a little did they dance at all. So
Speaker 1: they then I did a I did a separate dance audition.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I don't know, and it was in
Speaker 1: my studio and it's on zoom and literally like Draco
Speaker 1: the choreographer, I think literally just put on like she
Speaker 1: was like, let me just put a song and just
Speaker 1: groove to it. Terrifying, terrifying words, most terrifying words I've
Speaker 1: ever heard. I was like, I I truly blacked out.
Speaker 1: I was like, you just have to do it, like
Speaker 1: you just have to because I like dancing. But it's
Speaker 1: not like I'm not like everyone watched me dance, like
Speaker 1: I kind of like to do it just for me.
Speaker 1: I guess it's have you have you trained? Like are
Speaker 1: you well for for zombies? I did, I guess, like
Speaker 1: you know, in the rehearsal. And since then I've done
Speaker 1: like dance class and stuff.
Speaker 2: But okay, but not that wasn't part of your like
Speaker 2: no long with acting and.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I would not say so at all.
Speaker 1: And actually I think I had a lot of hang
Speaker 1: ups about dancing, Like I think it was very it's
Speaker 1: very vulnerable, and I think it's very like you know.
Speaker 2: That is wild to me because you can do. There's
Speaker 2: like nothing that it's not a question.
Speaker 1: You can a wild I mean, I I do appreciate that.
Speaker 1: I mean we also had such a good team, like
Speaker 1: they really catered it to everyone. And yes, but the
Speaker 1: song they put on was just like Miley Cyrus, who
Speaker 1: I loved her music, but it was like the Smiley
Speaker 1: Cyrus like eight A M remix that to be honest,
Speaker 1: I couldn't even figure out the beat like I kind
Speaker 1: of did, but like you medium songs, You're almost like
Speaker 1: where's the beat going? Yeah, and I'm literally just like grooving,
Speaker 1: and I think they just wanted to see like they
Speaker 1: pretty much were just like are you can you move?
Speaker 1: Like are you like, can you recognize a beat? Yes? Okay,
Speaker 1: think they purposely made the beat a little hard and
Speaker 1: then and then that was that.
Speaker 2: Okay. So then you cast I mean you had really
Speaker 2: kind of just done a few short films things like that,
Speaker 2: you book Zombie three and this is like a massive
Speaker 2: Disney production. I mean you're talking forty million dollars to
Speaker 2: make and it's your first like major job. That's that's
Speaker 2: unreal And yeah, I mean I can't and that is
Speaker 2: such a big, big thing to happen during COVID when
Speaker 2: really no one was working, everything was shut down. What
Speaker 2: an amazing opportunity. But do you remember how you found
Speaker 2: out you booked it? Like what were you doing? Who
Speaker 2: were you with?
Speaker 1: What were we all doing on the freaking in the pandemics?
Speaker 1: Who were I was sitting on my couch, sitting you're
Speaker 1: killing on my couch and it.
Speaker 2: Told you to pack your backs because you're leaving next week.
Speaker 2: Pretty much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I like call my best friends and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and I think we kind of all
Speaker 1: had like a little.
Speaker 2: Bit of an inkling, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: But you know, you don't know until you know.
Speaker 1: And uh, I think the person that I was dating
Speaker 1: at the time was wish you with me? Maybe either way?
Speaker 1: I I yeah, it was. It was a phone call
Speaker 1: from my team, okay, and it was just like yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was crazy, Like I remember think when
Speaker 1: I got to Toronto, I remember laying on the bed
Speaker 1: and I was like there have been so many times
Speaker 1: that you know, we as we all do as actors,
Speaker 1: like we've gotten so close and you literally start envisioning
Speaker 1: your life like I'm going to be in Budapest next week,
Speaker 1: like I'm going to be flying to like you know,
Speaker 1: London or even Vancouver or whatever, like and then when
Speaker 1: you don't, if you don't get it, you're like you
Speaker 1: you almost feel the loss of something that you never
Speaker 1: was even yours, but you feel that like heartbreak. And
Speaker 1: I remember just being there and I was like, this
Speaker 1: is so crazy, Like now I'm actually in Toronto. I
Speaker 1: was just flown to Toronto and like so weird, you.
Speaker 2: Know, living in an amazing hotel. Yeah, and it was
Speaker 2: an amazing cast. Know one I'm about to be a
Speaker 2: part of a ginormous franchise on the Disney Channel. Like yeah,
Speaker 2: like my dreams are actually happening right now. This is
Speaker 2: for real.
Speaker 1: It was crazy and it was nothing I ever like.
Speaker 1: I remember being being a kid and you know, on radio,
Speaker 1: like Disney Radio would be like do you want to
Speaker 1: be like on Disney Channel like auditions here or whatever,
Speaker 1: and I'd be like like you You'd be like you
Speaker 1: need to go to piano lessons, like you know, and
Speaker 1: so it's it's crazy. I mean, yeah, I'm incredibly incredibly
Speaker 1: grateful for zombies.
Speaker 2: I love it, and and and and then moving into
Speaker 2: the next really big topic of it, you know, not
Speaker 2: only are you proving to your parents that you are
Speaker 2: making a living now out of this right, which is incredible,
Speaker 2: but you have the opportunity that of becoming Disney's first
Speaker 2: live action queer non binary actor. I was a part
Speaker 2: of the channel. I know everything, all the steps, all
Speaker 2: the things they went to push the boundaries they want
Speaker 2: to open kids eyes to. And you are literally the
Speaker 2: very person, first person that gets to do this. How
Speaker 2: we love a moment And was it a surprise to you?
Speaker 2: I mean, was as surprised that Disney was really willing
Speaker 2: to take the step.
Speaker 1: And of course, I think, I think because of the
Speaker 1: way that they you know, I think that you know,
Speaker 1: the world has changed a lot and it is still
Speaker 1: ever changing and stuff like that. But I think because
Speaker 1: of the way the team that I got to work with,
Speaker 1: including the casting directors and all that stuff, like they
Speaker 1: were the way that they were. It almost made it
Speaker 1: seem like they were just like, yeah, like, wait, Terry's
Speaker 1: not binary, Let's make the character non binary, because I
Speaker 1: don't actually think the character was written.
Speaker 2: As I was gonna ask you, was there any indication
Speaker 2: on the scripts or anything that you saw prior when
Speaker 2: you were auditioning like was that part of the honest
Speaker 2: or was it something that happened just organically because they
Speaker 2: they saw you as the person that you are.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I do think that they were
Speaker 1: auditioning like both like cis gender cis male and SIST
Speaker 1: female people, and so I think maybe they were like
Speaker 1: open gender. I'm trying to think like the breakdown. I
Speaker 1: think it was maybe like open ethnicity, open.
Speaker 2: Gender, okay or something like that.
Speaker 1: And I thought it was just the way that they
Speaker 1: were so, I mean, they were so supportive. Obviously I
Speaker 1: understand and have heard how huge this it was, and
Speaker 1: I'm just really so grateful that the way that they
Speaker 1: made me, that they treated me personally like it was
Speaker 1: very it was very normalized yet supported. Like it wasn't
Speaker 1: like they were dismissive like yeah yeah, like they had
Speaker 1: like we had a non binary inclusion consultant, which I
Speaker 1: was like what, I didn't even know that that was
Speaker 1: a thing, Like wow, yeah. I think like everyone really
Speaker 1: wanted to do right, you know.
Speaker 2: And they wanted. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought that. I was super grateful, and I also
Speaker 1: just like, you know, for me, it's like I'm just
Speaker 1: happy to be there as an actor, like I'm not
Speaker 1: like I am the first, Like I didn't get into
Speaker 1: this to be the you know, yes, the first non binary.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm happy to be here. And also
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful that people are trying their best, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's I know, I'm being incredible. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think it. It just shows Disney really does care,
Speaker 2: you know. And one of the things that I love
Speaker 2: we keep, you know, having all these amazing interviews with
Speaker 2: people that have worked for the Channel, And my favorite
Speaker 2: thing about it is knowing that my experience with the Channel,
Speaker 2: which was amazing and supported and you know, they really
Speaker 2: cared about so much, and I love binding out that
Speaker 2: they were like that with everyone. It wasn't like, you know,
Speaker 2: because you can have a good experience and then the
Speaker 2: next person can have a terrible sure, right, and you know.
Speaker 1: The industry is so large and there's so many suits.
Speaker 1: I'm not, of course, we I'm sure, like you know,
Speaker 1: there's the space for whatever people's experiences have been, but
Speaker 1: like I do, I know my experience only, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure for you too, And I'm so grateful. Yes, whether
Speaker 1: it's Disney or any other project, I just I don't
Speaker 1: take it for granted, I think.
Speaker 2: You know, when it comes to the rehearsal time, that
Speaker 2: was always my favorite with my stuff on. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: rehearsals and the bonding and the you know, the water breaks,
Speaker 2: the snacks that of getting to know your cast and
Speaker 2: do you have any fun memories from that that that
Speaker 2: just always stand out to you when you think about
Speaker 2: rehearsal time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, rehearsal was. We had dance rehearsal for like for
Speaker 1: like a bit, so that was just like so fun.
Speaker 1: And we worked with the dancers in Toronto who are
Speaker 1: so incredibly talented, like, oh, you know, I think as
Speaker 1: scary and vulnerable as the dancing was for me, I
Speaker 1: think I liked having an excuse to dance, like I think,
Speaker 1: I thought it was really cool. And also Draco and
Speaker 1: Taya like the choreographers, they were amazing and Alisha too
Speaker 1: was Toronto based. They were so incredible wow, and so
Speaker 1: like so talented but really like just gracious I think,
Speaker 1: and very approachable and so I think that you know,
Speaker 1: made it really like easy and then also like you're
Speaker 1: going into an existing franchise, so it can be intimidating.
Speaker 1: They're like, you know, such good leaders of that whole group. Honestly,
Speaker 1: they were there were so sweet and like, you know,
Speaker 1: like just even thinking about them in the chemistry read
Speaker 1: the way that they were then is the way that
Speaker 1: they had always been like very just like sweet and
Speaker 1: welcoming and really I don't know, I think like the
Speaker 1: dancing automatically kind of bonded us also because you know.
Speaker 2: There's something about music and the word groove. Yeah, there's
Speaker 2: something about the rehearsal, the vibe everyone's working hard, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, every there's parts where everyone struggles
Speaker 2: a bit, you know, and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: There's something about it, like a dance rehearsal that really
Speaker 2: bonds you in such a great way that when you
Speaker 2: go on to do the film, you already have this
Speaker 2: really organic chemistry that's already just kind of rude. But
Speaker 2: what about was that was the rehearsals. Then, the first
Speaker 2: time you met Kira and Matt in person, I think
Speaker 2: it was okay because we had we had two weeks
Speaker 2: of quarantine when we got to the hotel.
Speaker 1: And so we weren't like in your room, and so
Speaker 1: we were all like on zoom playing games together like
Speaker 1: stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So we had met over zoom a bunch. Okay, all right,
Speaker 2: because it would I would assume on set those two
Speaker 2: are the ones you spent the most time with, right,
Speaker 2: Your most scenes are at least the you know, three
Speaker 2: of you and then other people were coming in, but
Speaker 2: you guys are the majority of your filming together. Yea,
Speaker 2: So how was that? Like, was it right off the
Speaker 2: bat that chemistry happening or.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it was so sweet and like,
Speaker 1: I think it was such a nice trio. And you know,
Speaker 1: I also think it was very much an ensemble cast,
Speaker 1: Like as much as we were together, honestly, I think
Speaker 1: we actually all spent a lot of I think because
Speaker 1: of the dance Dancess, like, we honestly all spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time together. Like obviously the aliens had some
Speaker 1: of their own parts and stuff like that, so we
Speaker 1: did spend that time. But overall, it honestly felt like
Speaker 1: a big cohesive unit, like everyone kind of was hanging
Speaker 1: with everyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I can't imagine how many of like
Speaker 2: those director chairs were out for you guys to sit,
Speaker 2: and there's like twenty of them. There's, like you're saying,
Speaker 2: for real, an ensemble cast. There's so many when you
Speaker 2: got the the werewolves, the zombies, the cheerleaders, and now
Speaker 2: the aliens.
Speaker 1: It's crazy exactly.
Speaker 2: So how did you feel? I mean, I loved it.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Were you a big were you a
Speaker 2: fan of Disney before? Like Xenon is one of the
Speaker 2: most epic D coms ever made, and I was. I
Speaker 2: was loving those vibes that we were sort of getting
Speaker 2: in the once you guys entered, you know, entered the
Speaker 2: chat here zombie zombie chat. Did you guys like your uniforms?
Speaker 2: What was what was the conversations about the blue hair?
Speaker 2: Was there an option to dyet?
Speaker 1: Or was it? Oh? My hair?
Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna say if that was not your hair.
Speaker 2: That wig was one of the most expensive wigs I've
Speaker 2: ever seen because it looked so good. Your hair looks
Speaker 2: so good, Okay, so wow, you dyed it.
Speaker 1: I actually cut my hair for the role and I
Speaker 1: dyed it. Wow. I was the only one that died it,
Speaker 1: which you know, was really amazing and also had its
Speaker 1: own struggles because I have really dark hair obviously, so
Speaker 1: like the way that it stays and you know, stuff
Speaker 1: like that. But when it was good, it was good.
Speaker 1: It was really cool.
Speaker 2: Did you keep it? How long did you keep it
Speaker 2: after filming where you were like I'm dig in this,
Speaker 2: kept it for a while? Yeah, And did you just
Speaker 2: let it grow out or did you I mean you probably.
Speaker 1: Transformed it eventually.
Speaker 2: That's another podcast that's a hair podcast just.
Speaker 1: About hair, just about hair. Yeah. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: the costumes, like you know, they I love the whole
Speaker 1: that whole team, the hair team and everyone, like, oh god,
Speaker 1: they really worked hard, especially being like non binary. I
Speaker 1: think they were very like you know, or how do
Speaker 1: you feel about this? Like do you want to bind?
Speaker 1: Do you want to do this? Like whatever? And something
Speaker 1: I think that speaks to it is you know, I
Speaker 1: had a doll made after Aspen and they literally consulted
Speaker 1: me on like the dolls like body and just being
Speaker 1: like what, like what do we want for it? Because
Speaker 1: all is non binary, Like you know, if it were
Speaker 1: more like CIS genders female doll, maybe we would generally
Speaker 1: make it more curvy or whatever it is, like what
Speaker 1: do you want? Like? But all of that those things
Speaker 1: were like taken into consideration. Wow, I know, I know
Speaker 1: I feel grateful or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: You know, that is amazing. I love that. I mean
Speaker 2: that sounds it just sounds like you were really just
Speaker 2: everyone was just being very adamant of doing it correctly
Speaker 2: and making sure that you were the one that was
Speaker 2: spearheading it because this was who you are, you know,
Speaker 2: and they wanted to do it right. And I love that.
Speaker 2: So Paul Howan, we got to talk about Oh my
Speaker 2: buddy Paul. Yeah, so I've gotten to work with him
Speaker 2: as well. He worked on Cheatah Girls three, but we
Speaker 2: and so he's been on the podcast, we've interviewed him,
Speaker 2: but not just that, I mean, he's done. I'd say
Speaker 2: it feels like at least been d percent of dcom's
Speaker 2: out there. We have like reined him into his kingdom.
Speaker 2: This is, of course, this is you know, Paul Lane.
Speaker 1: His dcom kingdom.
Speaker 2: Because absolutely, and I know how supportive he is about
Speaker 2: his actors. So I'd love for you to kind of
Speaker 2: talk about your experience with working with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is. That's what I remember too, like and
Speaker 1: I mean it's been so long now, but I felt
Speaker 1: like he was very approachable. Like I was obviously really
Speaker 1: nervous because it was like my first feature, and like,
Speaker 1: you know, but I remember I think like even just
Speaker 1: during the rehearsals and stuff like him being very open
Speaker 1: to us asking questions and just like checking in. And
Speaker 1: you know, I think something I actually remember is more
Speaker 1: after the film came out. I like him checking in
Speaker 1: on me. And I think at the time, honestly, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I don't like have a plate because
Speaker 1: I had moved out in my apartment, and so I
Speaker 1: think I was like, oh, like I he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I think I know someone who's subletting a place, like
Speaker 1: if you need, like just the kind of it felt
Speaker 1: like a friend looking out just all. I do feel
Speaker 1: like he was so approachable, and I think maybe that
Speaker 1: was the biggest thing for me. It's like whether a
Speaker 1: director is approachable, you know, because they can be so like, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, and and he's so like I like it
Speaker 1: because he's so I don't think soft spokes spoken is
Speaker 1: the right word, but I think he's like so gentle
Speaker 1: at least that was that was my experience with him,
Speaker 1: and like and yeah, supportive of everyone like trying their
Speaker 1: own thing, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah I love that. Yeah, yeah, awesome. Okay, So we
Speaker 2: got to get back a little bit more with the movie.
Speaker 2: So I loved this movie. I loved the specific choreography
Speaker 2: that you guys had in your alien characters, and I mean,
Speaker 2: I felt like it was such a great addition to
Speaker 2: what we've already seen zombies as zombies. But as much
Speaker 2: as I want to hear all the amazing things, I
Speaker 2: wanted to know, like, what did you find was most
Speaker 2: difficult during your time of filming? Everyone goes through sort
Speaker 2: of a little bit of challenges with each rule, right,
Speaker 2: that's just inevitable. Whether it's I couldn't ever find anything
Speaker 2: that I liked to eat, I was starving the entire time. Like,
Speaker 2: whether it's that or you know, things that were with
Speaker 2: your character or what was probably the most difficult thing
Speaker 2: while filming Zombies? I think for.
Speaker 1: Me probably like as a human and actor, staying grounded
Speaker 1: in like my own actual life, like because I do
Speaker 1: think that it was. It was my first experience of
Speaker 1: you know, I never went to camp as a kid
Speaker 1: or anything, and also I had never done a future
Speaker 1: and also it was an on location feature, Like I think,
Speaker 1: staying rounded in like my real life, if you will,
Speaker 1: and just almost feeling like you know, it's like the
Speaker 1: you just kind of feel like set life, like this
Speaker 1: is my entire world. Everything that happens here is going
Speaker 1: to last forever, and it is going to be my
Speaker 1: entire world, and my life is this set which it was,
Speaker 1: and at the end, you're gonna come have a calm
Speaker 1: down and you're going to go back to your life
Speaker 1: wherever it is and have to look for apartments and
Speaker 1: be like whoa. And I think like keeping that like
Speaker 1: it that whole experience on obviously, you taught me a
Speaker 1: lot about the sort of mental health I suppose, and
Speaker 1: mental sort of like boundaries in a way that you
Speaker 1: that I benefit from, like practicing I suppose, and kind
Speaker 1: of like just like knowing, like just staying grounded honestly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And like I think that that's really important as we
Speaker 1: go through our careers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. And I think that's not something that
Speaker 2: the outside world really quite expects, you know, somebody it's
Speaker 2: good for It's good for somebody who is an upcoming
Speaker 2: actor that they understand that aspect because it is a
Speaker 2: lot of ups and there. Sure if you aren't you know,
Speaker 2: taking care of yourself mentally in a positive way, that
Speaker 2: can overcome you, you know, and it can make your
Speaker 2: certain things a lot more difficult. And that's awesome. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, and it and the crazy part is it
Speaker 2: all comes with experience.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: You really it's hard to really prepare yourself until you
Speaker 2: get to that point. Yeah, so you know, that's that's
Speaker 2: something that is tough when people ask me. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm sure now that you've you've you've had your own journey,
Speaker 2: people ask me all the time, Oh, my kid really
Speaker 2: wants to be an actor? How do I you know,
Speaker 2: what do I do? And I'm kind of like, first,
Speaker 2: you need to make sure your kid is the kid
Speaker 2: that can handle what the industry brings. Otherwise it shouldn't
Speaker 2: be a career. It should be I mean, I'm getting
Speaker 2: on your mom's side here, it should be a hobby
Speaker 2: because it's it's a tough career and you got to
Speaker 2: have the thick skin because it's not for everyone.
Speaker 1: I completely and I respect that takes so much. And honestly,
Speaker 1: I feel like ever since my interviews, the first interviews
Speaker 1: I've done, like you know, when Zombie started, like I've
Speaker 1: always felt kind of a guess quite maybe a Dobbie
Speaker 1: downer or like a like a at the risk of
Speaker 1: sounding like boring, I'm just like, but yeah, my thoughts
Speaker 1: are exactly the same. Like I think it's easy to
Speaker 1: be like chase your dreams, chase your dreams, and yeah,
Speaker 1: like chase your dreams, but like have some weirdwithal about
Speaker 1: it because it.
Speaker 2: Is incredibly tough.
Speaker 1: And I think the mental aspect is so important because
Speaker 1: I don't I do think the career is about like
Speaker 1: staying in it. Staying in it, like you are never
Speaker 1: going to book if you never audition, and you're never
Speaker 1: gonna audition if you don't stay in it, like you know.
Speaker 1: And so it's like, but you can't stay in it
Speaker 1: if your mental health is horrific, like you know. And
Speaker 1: and so I totally agree with you on that, and
Speaker 1: I'm glad, I'm honestly glad to hear you say that because.
Speaker 2: Because I mean, it's I think it's very true, and
Speaker 2: it comes with every career, whether you're wanting to betly
Speaker 2: or you're wanting to be a lawyer. It's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I want to be a lawyer, And it's like, do
Speaker 2: you know how much schooling that is? So many years
Speaker 2: of tests and you know you have to be able
Speaker 2: to prevay yourself fully. Not every dream is important, but
Speaker 2: there should be people you should look into it, make
Speaker 2: sure that this is the right path for you. You
Speaker 2: not just think it's gonna be all nothing nothing is
Speaker 2: you know, and.
Speaker 1: Set yourself up. Yes, exactly, think that there's no shame
Speaker 1: and honestly like this is such I don't know, boring talk,
Speaker 1: I guess, but like and having like transferable skills, like
Speaker 1: I don't think like it's so lame, but I really
Speaker 1: like like something that you can get a job and
Speaker 1: pay your bills, like seriously, like take care. I feel
Speaker 1: so passionately about it.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely all right back to the movie. I okay,
Speaker 2: we've got so when as you I'm still thinking about
Speaker 2: just kind of how everything is evolving, right we haven't
Speaker 2: even gotten to the fact that it blew up and
Speaker 2: was an incredible movie for the franchise and everything. But
Speaker 2: were you excited as as things were developing on set
Speaker 2: everything was working. Was that romantic storyline that you had
Speaker 2: with Willa? Was that something from the beginning or is
Speaker 2: that something do you think that ended up? Kind of
Speaker 2: because it comes at the end and you know, or
Speaker 2: towards the end, then we get to see that you
Speaker 2: guys are really you know, having your romantic storyline play out.
Speaker 2: Were you excited about that or was that something that
Speaker 2: happened right away?
Speaker 1: No, really excited. I actually don't remember now what a
Speaker 1: scot was written into the script. I think that it
Speaker 1: might have came later, and I think we were also
Speaker 1: like you know, wanting to make sure Chandler's on board
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Sure, I was very, very excited.
Speaker 1: I think it was really cool because it was very subtle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some people could have missed it, and I think that's okay,
Speaker 1: But I think it was like really subtle, and I
Speaker 1: liked that it wasn't made into such a thing like
Speaker 1: you know, So I was very happy with it. And
Speaker 1: Chandler was such a obviously like so supportive and stuff too.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's awesome. Shocked doesn't even describe my feelings
Speaker 2: on the fact that you are not in zombiesfore. And
Speaker 2: I was thinking that that actual, like you said, it
Speaker 2: was very subtle, was also just a play into what
Speaker 2: we had to look forward to for Zombies four. So
Speaker 2: I need to know who I need to write my
Speaker 2: letter to about Zombies five, because if I don't see
Speaker 2: what happens with the two of you, I might lose it.
Speaker 1: And then when you find out I will.
Speaker 2: I will let you know, and I will write that
Speaker 2: strongly word letters and that I will talk to you.
Speaker 2: I know, I'm probably gonna see my friend Paul, and
Speaker 2: I am going to have to have the conversation. I will,
Speaker 2: I will, I'll get your number. I'll get your number.
Speaker 2: But that's exciting that you guys had to and then
Speaker 2: you know again the the movie comes out. Everything's great
Speaker 2: so much that you end up becoming part of the
Speaker 2: animated series. I mean, and you were able to bring
Speaker 2: this character to life as a cartoon. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 2: dream job for me. Voiceover work is I had a
Speaker 2: little bit of it. So fun. Yeah, how did you
Speaker 2: love that? Did you love it? Wasn't tough? I mean,
Speaker 2: a whole new barrier, I mean, why was that?
Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved it. It actually introduced me
Speaker 1: in a more serious way to voiceover work, like I
Speaker 1: do more voiceover auditions now. I loved it. The team
Speaker 1: was incredible and so funny, like actually the scripts are
Speaker 1: like laugh out loud funny, like truly, and just being
Speaker 1: in the room like them pitching on the spot like
Speaker 1: they're so funny and uh no, I'm super super happy
Speaker 1: to have been part of that, and like I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say that was so incredibly hard just because it was
Speaker 1: the same character, like I'm reprising my role as Aspen,
Speaker 1: But you know, there were definitely I learned a lot
Speaker 1: about just like the ways to hit the vocal ranges
Speaker 1: and vocal feelings and tones, like to really emphasize things more,
Speaker 1: you know, because you don't have your face show reactions.
Speaker 1: But they did such a good job like the animation
Speaker 1: animators and stuff. So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: That is so awesome. I wish that Will, my co host,
Speaker 2: was here, because if you are going to be in
Speaker 2: voice acting, you have got to know his name because
Speaker 2: he is like truly a god in that day. He
Speaker 2: has done so many things and I mean I and
Speaker 2: he can and he does it while we're doing our interviews,
Speaker 2: and it just is it's so incredible to watch his
Speaker 2: range and he can do so many accents and I
Speaker 2: mean to where it makes me timid to go, Okay,
Speaker 2: maybe I can't do that, because you love that. I know. Yes,
Speaker 2: we'll have to come back on maybe when we when
Speaker 2: we get a chance to do something else, we'll bring
Speaker 2: you back.
Speaker 1: On and and we'll talk about.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and we'll talk about how you how you
Speaker 2: transition exact to absolutely Okay, Now we're going to get
Speaker 2: to some some hot more hot topic questions here we go.
Speaker 2: So we've heard that we've interviewed a few of your
Speaker 2: Zombie cast members. We've got Meg, Trevor, Kylie, and we've
Speaker 2: been told by pretty much all of them that they
Speaker 2: there's these groups that happen once everyone starts meeting, and
Speaker 2: that you guys have kind of like these texting group
Speaker 2: chats that go I gotta know, and I as soon
Speaker 2: as I got off the interview, I think it was
Speaker 2: with either Meg or Kylie that I was like talking
Speaker 2: to Will and going, I wonder who is the best texter?
Speaker 2: Like who keeps those texts going as as the time
Speaker 2: goes on? That's the one that kind of keeps everyone
Speaker 2: just in the chat, you know, active a bit and stuff.
Speaker 2: Who would you think that would be?
Speaker 1: So, you know, that's such a good question.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I think that Meg does really well with being intentional
Speaker 1: and being like, hey, guys, like let's all I catch
Speaker 1: up like that that sort of thing, which I really appreciate.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I think that James, who plays Bonzo, Okay, is very
Speaker 1: like we'll just say like these one liners. Sometimes that's
Speaker 1: just like so random and like I feel like it's
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: That's hilarious to think of him because all we know
Speaker 2: him as is Bonzo. We have got him on an
Speaker 2: interview and it's like this guy we're in movie three
Speaker 2: can't still can't freaking talk. He can't. He hasn't nicked
Speaker 2: up anything, you guys, he's been around at all.
Speaker 1: He's so committed to hisself, you know, and we respect that.
Speaker 2: Yes, I guess you just have to be respectful of it.
Speaker 2: But it's like, comm Bonzo, you gotta give me something exactly.
Speaker 2: I feel like a Meg Meg. Yeah, she seems like
Speaker 2: a very good mama bear of the group. Yes, she's
Speaker 2: like just seems like you just if you need a hug,
Speaker 2: you go to Meg. That's what it seems like. I
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they both like her and Milo
Speaker 1: started in these essential like leadership positions at a very
Speaker 1: young age. Like you know, yes, I think they hold
Speaker 1: it well.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think she considered herself a grandma at this point,
Speaker 2: and she filmed Zombies four. She felt like she was
Speaker 2: a grandma at that point. She's like, I started off
Speaker 2: as a young actor and now I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: a grandma to all these new actors coming in. So
Speaker 2: I love that. Though. All Right, if you had to
Speaker 2: pick a species to join, and it can't be it
Speaker 2: can't be an alien, it's gotta be zombies, were wolves
Speaker 2: or even and we haven't seen them yet, but the
Speaker 2: new vampires, who would you pick?
Speaker 1: Okay, I haven't seen the new vampires, but I'm feeling
Speaker 1: like it would be were wolves for me. Anyway.
Speaker 2: I think they're the best one.
Speaker 1: I have, like the coolest like dances, coolest song.
Speaker 2: I did love the Aliens version, I really did, but
Speaker 2: thank you. I yes, there's something about that style that
Speaker 2: the choreographer decided was for the were Wolves that is
Speaker 2: just on freaking point.
Speaker 1: There's like some dance moves like in their song come
Speaker 1: on Out, and there's some dances on like it's like
Speaker 1: ingrained into my mind. I'm like, the Aliens did not
Speaker 1: get to do that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, but the Aliens had that. That
Speaker 2: that's true. Okay, that's the Aliens one, and that is signature.
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about it since I watched the movie
Speaker 2: this weekend. It's good. It's a it's a good, good one.
Speaker 2: It's a good one. It's a real sticks it's perfect. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I do agree that the werewolves, like their entire style.
Speaker 2: There's just something that has a real good spark to it.
Speaker 2: I love that's what it is. It is a swag.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Okay, I couldn't put my finger on you.
Speaker 2: All right, we do want to talk about something else
Speaker 2: you've been in. This will be the justin I got
Speaker 2: a couple more and that's it. You also premiered in
Speaker 2: Never Have I Ever? Huge hit for Netflix. Right, You've
Speaker 2: got incredible creator, we've got Mandy Kaling, You've got it's
Speaker 2: another young adult obsession. Yeah, I've got to ask you
Speaker 2: which fan base is more rabbit? Do we got zombies
Speaker 2: or Never Have I ever? Like, really, when when you're
Speaker 2: out there, who are doing the crazy things? Who are
Speaker 2: more normal?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 2: Good question? Is it hard? Is it almost?
Speaker 1: I think it's hard because never have it ever? I
Speaker 1: was like, my my actual screen time for it wasn't long, Like,
Speaker 1: wasn't that much.
Speaker 2: And but given you're recognized from it, though.
Speaker 1: Yes, and so even given how short my screen time was,
Speaker 1: the amount that I get recognized from it is actually
Speaker 1: really surprising to me.
Speaker 2: Oh, I see, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because like with the Disney ones, it's like
Speaker 1: I'm not in areas, like I don't go to malls
Speaker 1: that much, and that's where like sometimes like there's kids
Speaker 1: with their parents and stuff, but.
Speaker 2: You don't live Disneyland. No, no, not all the time.
Speaker 2: I used to.
Speaker 1: But and uh so I don't know, like I almost
Speaker 1: feel like they're on par okay, because I'm almost like,
Speaker 1: how did like the fans that never have ever recognize
Speaker 1: me so much? But sometimes like the other day, I
Speaker 1: was walking in New York right now and someone walked
Speaker 1: by me and was just and just literally went oh
Speaker 1: and like I but then say anything, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I was like you you could be the age where
Speaker 1: you honestly could be saying that from zombies or never ever. Ever,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Like when it's a kid, it's usually like,
Speaker 1: you know, zombies, but you.
Speaker 2: Have a lot of adult Disney channels. So true. Wow, Okay,
Speaker 2: so they're basically equal because it's there, they're both.
Speaker 1: I will say, they're both really intense, really passionate.
Speaker 2: I love it and that's amazing. All right, last question,
Speaker 2: dream roll anything in Hollywood like an on stage, off
Speaker 2: stage voiceover work now that you've got your your feet
Speaker 2: wet in that, what are you picking? My go Hollywood
Speaker 2: stage voiceover, What do you think you're going for?
Speaker 1: I mean the project I'm currently working on right now
Speaker 1: I really love. But that's really tough.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that.
Speaker 1: It's just my one singular dream role. But I think
Speaker 1: that I've always wanted to do something super epic, like
Speaker 1: like I think I grew up watching going to movies
Speaker 1: and coming out depressed because I would be like, I
Speaker 1: wish I were just like on that screen, Like I
Speaker 1: want something so epic, like something like Interstellar, like that
Speaker 1: makes you be like, like you know, like Interstellar or
Speaker 1: like honestly, not Mission Impossible, although that would be amazing too,
Speaker 1: but something that feels so epic like Dune, Okay, like
Speaker 1: something that has beautiful effects where you can only see
Speaker 1: and feel that from on screen, like.
Speaker 2: And that's physical. Do you like the physical aspect of
Speaker 2: it too? Yeah? Yeah, and kind of just like the.
Speaker 1: Larger than life, because I feel like you're achieving this
Speaker 1: sort of romanticization of the world in your life. Like
Speaker 1: you know, I have a dreams for like indie rolls
Speaker 1: too and stuff like that. But I'm more like the
Speaker 1: things that are like fantastical, like it's so amazing, you.
Speaker 2: Know, well, I have no doubt you're gonna get there.
Speaker 2: I really, I mean, it was just amazing. I really
Speaker 2: loved watching the movie. And I'm just so excited for
Speaker 2: what's to come for you. And I think you've got
Speaker 2: such such incredible work ahead and you know you are
Speaker 2: just keep going. I'm just so excited for you. And
Speaker 2: congratulations on such an amazing I mean, hitting zombies and
Speaker 2: now you're moving on to big things. Can't wait to
Speaker 2: know if we can know anything about the project you're
Speaker 2: working on now, Oh, I can tell you right now.
Speaker 2: Let me know what's going on.
Speaker 1: It's an off Broadway play, the next one from Donnia Tamoor,
Speaker 1: who won a Tony for The Outsiders musical and was
Speaker 1: just nominated for John Proctor is a Villain, which Sadie
Speaker 1: Sink is leading. And so this is Donnia's next project.
Speaker 1: And it's called Trophy Boys and it is four female
Speaker 1: and non binary actors playing private school debate boys team Debaters.
Speaker 1: And I'll kind of leave it at that. It's like
Speaker 1: a chairical dart comedy.
Speaker 2: So you're back in New York are you. Wow, well amazing.
Speaker 2: I hope to be able to see it whenever I'm.
Speaker 1: Out there and let me know if you're New York.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will, I will. Well, thank you so much
Speaker 2: for taking the time. He was so busy and again
Speaker 2: loved it was so great and we've got to have
Speaker 2: you on again and have you have you back for
Speaker 2: some more intake. Now maybe we can hear your side
Speaker 2: of what you thought of the new zombies and and
Speaker 2: bringing in these vampires and what kind of gas they're
Speaker 2: going to bring to our beautiful zombie land that it's
Speaker 2: exact now that the aliens are there. All right, Thank
Speaker 2: you so much.
Speaker 1: It's thanks for making time until I say.
Speaker 2: Hi, oh I will. We'll get you guys a meet
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: That's good. Okay, thanks guys.
Speaker 2: Wow, that was incredible. I mean for an actor that
Speaker 2: has been in this industry for not this is one
Speaker 2: of our first actors that really didn't start as a
Speaker 2: as a child actor, got into it after college, you know,
Speaker 2: and kind of pushed their way into being able to
Speaker 2: have the opportunities. Talking about cold call cold calls towards agencies,
Speaker 2: I mean, that is somebody who wants this bad and
Speaker 2: didn't stop, kept pushing, ended up finding their way on
Speaker 2: to the Disney Channel and not just some normal dcom.
Speaker 2: We're talking one of the most epic dcoms the channels
Speaker 2: has had. So I am just so excited that that
Speaker 2: interview just happened and we cannot wait to have them
Speaker 2: back on. Thank you guys so much for listening to
Speaker 2: Magical rewind. We are coming back at you guys, and
Speaker 2: we've got another movie coming, so you guys gotta stay tuned.
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