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Speaker 1: The wonderful Chris Beam will answer your phone. Uh. Your stuffed, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he may be stuffed. Isaiah walked in. We can't talk
Speaker 1: about the place, I guess specifically, can we I don't
Speaker 1: think so, Yeah, which is unfortunate. This is these little
Speaker 1: things that we've got here. This is biscuits and gravy
Speaker 1: and the biscuit looks more like a mountain than a biscuit.
Speaker 1: This thing is three stories tall. And and when I
Speaker 1: first saw it, Isaiah was laughing at because I kept
Speaker 1: turning around because it's so heavy, right, people, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try to show the people. Man me, this is
Speaker 1: a little biscuits. It's not stuff like anything. This is
Speaker 1: a biscuit like a whole bit. And we had it's
Speaker 1: saw Look oh look at the give look at it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, look at the recovery. Right, listen, watch
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Speaker 1: memory foam? Oh yeah, yes, yes, And no I don't
Speaker 1: know if I wanted to sleep on it to eat it.
Speaker 1: I know what I'm going to do. Oh yeah, oh man.
Speaker 1: And then and then there's like a whole there's a
Speaker 1: whole coffee cup full of gravy. To get to this point.
Speaker 1: This is gravy. Just what that is? This grave? So
Speaker 1: thank you Isaiah for breakfast. I'm gonna have to explain
Speaker 1: to good good thing. I know a good place that
Speaker 1: will for you to work out. I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: right for the wedding. And then here comes Isaiah with
Speaker 1: a literal mountain of biscuits coming in. Beamer took care
Speaker 1: of me though. This is Beamer brought me. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: brought me to fresh fruit. Yeah, I'm ready to go
Speaker 1: that fresh job, brought the biscuit biscuit from the multiverse. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, this is more no more, brought this from
Speaker 1: you from beneath the sea. Blow the kid. I'm serious, ye, sir,
Speaker 1: they don't know. I wanted down and get some e
Speaker 1: to come back, and he has that for me. So
Speaker 1: I basically traded with him. Yeah, there you go. Here's
Speaker 1: here's a start that guy for myself. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: that messed up everybody's diet today. But you guys should
Speaker 1: be in a good you're nice little you know. Yeah
Speaker 1: we aren't a good blow Yeah. Yeah, we are moved.
Speaker 1: We're still riding off the forty to three. And now
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Speaker 1: So today is gonna be a kind of interesting because
Speaker 1: it is only a three show week. We normally preview
Speaker 1: Cowboys Defense versus Viker I guess not Vikings anymore, Giants offense. Uh,
Speaker 1: then you flip the matchup for Thursday. So today we're
Speaker 1: kind of. We're still gonna take calls, but we're also
Speaker 1: going to talk a little bit about the matchups towards
Speaker 1: the end of the show. Um, and then tomorrow we'll
Speaker 1: do say it with your chest. Wednesday, we'll give you
Speaker 1: some matchups and we'll pick some games and do some
Speaker 1: stuff like that heading into the weekend, Patrick, We've got
Speaker 1: some news and notes, including one this morning that I
Speaker 1: do want to hit that pertains to the offensive winem.
Speaker 1: So first let's start with we we got our answer
Speaker 1: on Anthony Barr. I know a lot of people, including
Speaker 1: myself and you guys, were wondering what happened with Anthony Barr.
Speaker 1: He was on track to play against the Minnesota Vikings
Speaker 1: on Sunday, but popped up on the inactives list. We
Speaker 1: spoke with Mike McCarthy on yesterday and McCarthy basically said
Speaker 1: that on Saturday in practice Bar suffered a setback. He
Speaker 1: strained the hamstring reaggravated it, so he's doubtful at best
Speaker 1: for the Giants. I'd go ahead and rule him out
Speaker 1: just me speaking from a NOC standpoint, but it's not
Speaker 1: officially done by the team just yet. But I don't
Speaker 1: see him taking the field. I see the team trying
Speaker 1: to use the mini by maybe get him back for
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Coast, But we'll see. So the Moan Clark
Speaker 1: season continues against the New York Giants on Thursday. Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons knee is doing fine. By all accounts. There was
Speaker 1: no MRI that was needed. Michael Parsons did return to
Speaker 1: the game. Michael Parsons said he was fine after the game.
Speaker 1: Mike mccarthur yesterday said he was fine. He was a
Speaker 1: DNPA did not participate on yesterday, but yesterday was a
Speaker 1: walk through, and then you're talking about a short week.
Speaker 1: Obviously they're going to let a guy like that rest.
Speaker 1: You know my formula when it comes to Michael Parsons,
Speaker 1: if he's not feeling great, dnp dnp DN DC at
Speaker 1: the game and segueing to what Kyle is speaking of.
Speaker 1: Something that I tweeted in real time from the press
Speaker 1: box on Sunday, once the Cowboys got up so substantially
Speaker 1: against the Minnesota Vikings, I spied one Tyler Smith taking
Speaker 1: reps in game at left guard with Jason Peters out
Speaker 1: on the left side at left tackle, which I said
Speaker 1: at the time I was like, well, if you're wondering
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen when Tyron Smith gets back, I think
Speaker 1: you're seeing it right now. Jason Peter swing tackle Tyler
Speaker 1: Smith going to left guard, and Jerry Jones spoke to
Speaker 1: that today. He basically said he doesn't see Tyler having
Speaker 1: any problem popping into right guard left guard when Tyron
Speaker 1: Smith comes back. So there's some validation for you that
Speaker 1: he didn't say win when to Ron Smith comes back.
Speaker 1: He didn't put a date on to Ron Smith win.
Speaker 1: He's saying not if Smith is coming back. It's not
Speaker 1: if it's win, it's win. He's the question I think
Speaker 1: is not if or when, it's how long you go back?
Speaker 1: That's the biggest question for at least in my head,
Speaker 1: it's going to and then I and then last, but
Speaker 1: certainly not least with the the Odell Bowl coming up
Speaker 1: on Thursday. Beam. Yeah, Beham it's got a better ring
Speaker 1: to it. Well do the coming up the Behamham sounds
Speaker 1: like the Belk Bowl or whatever the other like, oh,
Speaker 1: Belt we Bowl games are through. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: got you, um, Jerry Jones said the Cowboys. He declined
Speaker 1: to talk about the negotiations as far as if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are concerned about health, if it's some money thing,
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I'm pleading the fifth on both of
Speaker 1: those things. We are basically the negotiations are ongoing Cowboys
Speaker 1: quote unquote, we've got a chance. That's Sarry Jones. So
Speaker 1: that's where we are. News and notes. Wow, So do
Speaker 1: you think that's the right move to move Tyler Smith
Speaker 1: to left guard, move Tyrant Smith back into left tackle,
Speaker 1: and roll with those guys moving forward? Is that? Is
Speaker 1: that a good idea or is that? Do we still
Speaker 1: need to see leading into that moment understand why they
Speaker 1: would do that. I don't like it, but it's not
Speaker 1: for me to like it, So I think you know
Speaker 1: they're from their perspective. You always want to play your
Speaker 1: best five. That's what you always hear people to say,
Speaker 1: play your best five, Play your best five. Unfortunately, playing
Speaker 1: your best five doesn't always work out because your best
Speaker 1: talent might be on the field, but your best skills
Speaker 1: might not be in a proper position. So we've seen
Speaker 1: what he did at guard. I'm sure he's a lot
Speaker 1: further along at that position now with the reps at
Speaker 1: left tackle having a whole half of an NFL season
Speaker 1: underneath them instead of just a camp in a preseason.
Speaker 1: So I would I would. I wouldn't even compare what
Speaker 1: he probably is today versus what he was, you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago when we were watching him
Speaker 1: at that position. But I still from what I've seen,
Speaker 1: I don't like it. And we've seen a ramp up
Speaker 1: period for multiple guys Jason Peters, I mean, even guys
Speaker 1: that are coming back, like a Michael Gallup, that aren't
Speaker 1: as far along into their career as a Tyron Smith is.
Speaker 1: How much of a ramp up period would we see
Speaker 1: if Tyron is trying to get back into the fold.
Speaker 1: Maybe there's a couple weeks of a lead in of
Speaker 1: practice for Tyler Smith to move in at left guard
Speaker 1: while Tyler or excuse me, Tyron Smith at left a
Speaker 1: lot of ties and a lot of Smith's Tyron Smith
Speaker 1: at left tackle, Tyler Smith at left guard, and having
Speaker 1: that practice rap for about two weeks to ramp Tyron
Speaker 1: Smith leftsive? Why and then we've got a Terrence on
Speaker 1: the other side, tie tie, tie. I don't when it
Speaker 1: comes to Tyron Smith, I don't think there's going to
Speaker 1: be much of a ramp up at all. Unfortunately, this
Speaker 1: is not the first time that he's had to, you know,
Speaker 1: tangle with this as far as returning from a long
Speaker 1: term injury. So I think he'll I don't necessarily want
Speaker 1: to say hit the ground running in week one, but
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of weeks in he'll be all
Speaker 1: settled in again at left tackle. My curiosity would be
Speaker 1: how quickly would Tyler Smith reacclimate to a left guard
Speaker 1: position that he spent the entirety of training camp playing.
Speaker 1: So it does work in his favor that he was
Speaker 1: playing there for the whole of training camp. That will
Speaker 1: help in his reacclamation getting back to that spot, but
Speaker 1: it may or may not be as quickly as as
Speaker 1: Tyron gets back going at full speed. But what a
Speaker 1: help Tyler at left guard is the fact that Tyron
Speaker 1: ramps up quickly at left tackle. That's going to help.
Speaker 1: And Tyler Biadish on the right side is playing well
Speaker 1: as well. And then of course next to him, you
Speaker 1: have Zach Martin able to kind of give some input
Speaker 1: and help the rookie get back to doing some left
Speaker 1: guard things. And shouts out to Conor mcgovernment as well,
Speaker 1: because if this is the best five we're talking about
Speaker 1: as far as Tyron, ty Ler, Tyler, Zach and the Terrence.
Speaker 1: Shout out the terrence for not being named Tyler still
Speaker 1: starts with a T though it does okay, so shouts
Speaker 1: out zas giving us a break here. As far as
Speaker 1: vernacular econom mcgovernor, you know, he's played very well this season,
Speaker 1: um and it it's going to give the Cowboys a
Speaker 1: situation where coming into training camp. Going into the training camp,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of questions about old line depth
Speaker 1: and who was going to be able to play where
Speaker 1: Now you're going into the most critical part of the season,
Speaker 1: and they have a great problem because if they do
Speaker 1: push Connor McGovern back to backup left guard, which is
Speaker 1: back up interior lineman because he technically he was back
Speaker 1: up right guard behind Zach Martin, you have one of
Speaker 1: the better backup interior linman's in the league now, So
Speaker 1: good problem to you know what I would do? What
Speaker 1: would Tyron gets back? I would do a heavy set.
Speaker 1: As soon as I touched a ten yardline, I'm going heavy.
Speaker 1: I'm going Tyron, I'm going Tyler, Jason, I'm going Tyler Tyler,
Speaker 1: and then I'm going into the right side Zach and
Speaker 1: then I'm going with tears like it and keep him out,
Speaker 1: keep him mind. Smac is also full back. Now he's
Speaker 1: your fullback. He's full bag duty. So they can put
Speaker 1: a lot of beef on. Should just do that all
Speaker 1: the way down the field for a drive, dude, I'm
Speaker 1: with it. Just have just troll though, Yeah, just mcgoverning
Speaker 1: of Roman, just just wiping out cornerbacks. And with seven
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, you've got a fullback that's also an offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: Just have Zeke in the backfield and just rolling rolling downfield,
Speaker 1: just making you tear up a little bit, December football man,
Speaker 1: to get you to put on the beef on the field.
Speaker 1: Hand the ball off, all right, give us a call
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Speaker 1: Another thing Jerry Jones said today, excuse me that it
Speaker 1: was the grave. It might be I might be allergic to.
Speaker 1: Another thing Jerry Jones said today was that the coaching
Speaker 1: staff should remain focused on New York on the Giant.
Speaker 1: And he said that on one oh five three the Fan,
Speaker 1: And in doing so, it perked a question to me,
Speaker 1: why why would he mention super Bowl after that game,
Speaker 1: and I think a piece of every Cowboys fan was saying,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, if you can play like that, you
Speaker 1: could win it all. I included if they played like
Speaker 1: that against anybody. I'll take the Cowboys against anybody. But
Speaker 1: there's no guarantee to that at all. You cannot do that.
Speaker 1: Don't do it. So with that being said, why would
Speaker 1: what's the reasoning behind Jerry saying super Bowl this early on?
Speaker 1: Is there a backstory to it around a certain free
Speaker 1: agent that might be out there. Well, he feels as
Speaker 1: if as as the team's prepared for the Beckham bole,
Speaker 1: he feels that Odell Beckham, who Jerry labels as an additive,
Speaker 1: could be the piece that helps take the Cowboys offense
Speaker 1: over the top. Now, of course I could see where
Speaker 1: he's coming from having seen your offense, and of course
Speaker 1: Brett Maher had something to do with it as well,
Speaker 1: going four for four, but being able to see that
Speaker 1: offense fire on all cylinders and rack up forty points,
Speaker 1: and then you envision adding Odell to that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: could see the uh, the rainbows and butterflies floating above
Speaker 1: Jerry's head after the game. But like Mike McCarthy said
Speaker 1: in his press conference yesterday, he said, there's owner Jerry,
Speaker 1: there's GM Jerry. Ye he said, GM Jerry is focused
Speaker 1: on the Giants. Owner Jerry is Owner Jerry. How much
Speaker 1: from a player perspective, how much does what the front
Speaker 1: office say nothing leak into what you're doing? Nothing at all?
Speaker 1: Or is that is that how it should be? Or
Speaker 1: is that how it actually is? I can't want to
Speaker 1: speak from my experience, Yeah, speak from yours. Nothing at all.
Speaker 1: It doesn't affect us. That's two separate entities. Whenever you're
Speaker 1: talking about the publicity aspect of it. What they what
Speaker 1: he talks about Owner Jerry, GM Jerry, that's something totally
Speaker 1: that's outside of what you can control. Right. So you
Speaker 1: you're literally operating in that locker room, that weight room,
Speaker 1: that lunch room, and that that field. That's your that's
Speaker 1: your bubble. That is literally your bubble. That's all you're
Speaker 1: concerned about. Anything else that trickles, that trickles down, trickles
Speaker 1: down something. I had to pull it. I had Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, go ahead quick, playing with your food, Patrick,
Speaker 1: I like quit it only because we're on the air.
Speaker 1: Once we're off air, there will be no playing with
Speaker 1: the food. It's going down. But you just don't want
Speaker 1: that bubble to pop, especially when things are going well.
Speaker 1: And I know you lost that game against Green Bay,
Speaker 1: but outside of that, things are going well in Cowboys Nation.
Speaker 1: Cowboys should now know from experience, and I keep going
Speaker 1: back to last year, but it's a great reference. You
Speaker 1: learn from your history. So if you haven't learned from
Speaker 1: last year that what you do last week, which you
Speaker 1: just did this previous week, it doesn't matter anymore. Then
Speaker 1: I don't know what other lessons you're looking to learn,
Speaker 1: especially when you got a game four days later. Absolutely so,
Speaker 1: I mean it's literally one week records, like that's all
Speaker 1: that matters. Forget what your overall record is. It is
Speaker 1: one week at a time, you have one opponent. Every week,
Speaker 1: you knocked them out, You go about your business, whatever happened, happened,
Speaker 1: knocked them out, going about your business, and then eventually,
Speaker 1: when you get to the end of the season, you
Speaker 1: look back and say, okay, that's where we're at. Hopefully
Speaker 1: we've created enough space so that we don't have to
Speaker 1: be concerned about different tiebreakers and all this other jazz.
Speaker 1: But literally, your focus should be that next opponent. Take
Speaker 1: care of your business and you don't have to worry
Speaker 1: about everything else. That next opponent is New York, a
Speaker 1: team that gave view problems on the ground. They were
Speaker 1: really the first team that really challenged you outside the tackles,
Speaker 1: and it provided a blueprint for other teams later on
Speaker 1: down the road to attack the run defense. So when
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Speaker 1: We'll start things off here on this Talking Tuesday with
Speaker 1: Noah and fort Worth. You're on Talking Cowboys. Noah, how's
Speaker 1: it going, hey, y'all, thank you for having me on
Speaker 1: the show. Love the show, Love everything you guys do.
Speaker 1: UM got two things. Damon Clark over vander Wrenche. I
Speaker 1: think I think continue if just flow the way that
Speaker 1: I saw Clark shoot those gaps. Man, it's just I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe something to look at. Um. Another thing
Speaker 1: you guys were talking about Tyron Smith over Tyler Smith.
Speaker 1: I think Tyron needs to earn his spot back. Tyler
Speaker 1: has done so much and has improved his game so
Speaker 1: much that you can't just you can't just move them.
Speaker 1: That's a good spot. You need to have him that.
Speaker 1: But if Tyrone wants to spot back, he's got earned
Speaker 1: that thing. Noah, we are all about saying it with
Speaker 1: your chest on this show, and those are two say
Speaker 1: it with your chest moments. Thanks for giving us a call,
Speaker 1: Noah and fort Worth bringing the hot fire. He's all
Speaker 1: about the youth movement. That's what that was, exactly what
Speaker 1: it sounds like. Noah Bran, I mean, excuse me. Demon
Speaker 1: Clark over Layton vander Ish at the linebackers spot. I
Speaker 1: liked what I saw on the second half from from
Speaker 1: Demon Clark. I took him a moment I said that
Speaker 1: yesterday to kind of get in the fold, but I
Speaker 1: was I was impressed by what I saw from Demon Clark,
Speaker 1: very encouraging about him and his return not only to
Speaker 1: NFL action for the first time, but just back to
Speaker 1: football in general after the injury. The Tyler Tyrant thing,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with this much. I
Speaker 1: can't hop on that bandwagon there. I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: on that one. This is not Jameis Winston and Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton say yeah, yeah, it's a no for me. Dog
Speaker 1: as a negative ghost writer, Yeah, that's a negative ghost writer.
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith doesn't have to earn a damn thing because
Speaker 1: it's already earned. All Tyron Smith has to do is
Speaker 1: be healthy. That's all he has to do, and that's
Speaker 1: his spot. The only question is what happens to Tyler
Speaker 1: when Tyron comes back. But when Tyron is healthy and
Speaker 1: able to get back on the field, there's not a
Speaker 1: damn thing that So you're saying, there's a reason why
Speaker 1: they're putting him at guard during the end of the
Speaker 1: Game's Tyron Smith is that dude when he's healthy. If anything,
Speaker 1: the thing that Tyler has earned is a chance to
Speaker 1: continue playing staying in the starting lineup and playing a guard.
Speaker 1: It goes back to what we talked about in training camp.
Speaker 1: The battle was always McGovern versus Smith, Tyler Smith versus
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern, Who is going to be your left guard
Speaker 1: whenever you're healthy on the offensive line. I think Tyler
Speaker 1: Smith has also earned the respect of this teammates in
Speaker 1: the organization to know that whenever Tyron decides to shut
Speaker 1: it down, that they don't have to go look anywhere else. Fact,
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. The long term of future security
Speaker 1: at left tackle is in the building, and that's wonderful
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys and for the mon Clark. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's no secret for everybody that that follow me on Twitter,
Speaker 1: follows me on Twitter, and watches Talking Daily as you should,
Speaker 1: best podcast in the building. I've been foretelling of Demon
Speaker 1: Clark and I am huge on his upside, and we
Speaker 1: saw that on the back half of the Vikings game.
Speaker 1: But I think that if you're trying to say it's
Speaker 1: Demon Clark versus l V, you're you're skewed a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's not Clark versus l VS, Clark versus Barr and
Speaker 1: until Bark gets back on the field, Clark needs to
Speaker 1: be on the field, and then once Bark comes back,
Speaker 1: then the question becomes, does bar get his starting position back?
Speaker 1: So when that time comes, we will have that discussion.
Speaker 1: But it's not Clark versus l V. And there's no
Speaker 1: reason all three of those guys couldn't be on the
Speaker 1: field certain time, or at least both of those guys
Speaker 1: in different rotations. That's a good thing that Demon Clark
Speaker 1: is doing. What he's doing right now is because it
Speaker 1: adds to the rotation. And we are a Demon Clark show.
Speaker 1: We've all been very high. Clark talked to him yesterday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm man a biscuit, Isaiah, get that man a biscuit.
Speaker 1: Just told him, you know, a good job looking good.
Speaker 1: He said, Uh, he's a guy correct a few things.
Speaker 1: You know. His sides are always yeah, he's not he's
Speaker 1: not patting himself on the back. He's not hype. He's
Speaker 1: not like, oh yeah, I killed it. He's I got
Speaker 1: work to do. First thing out of his got work
Speaker 1: to do. His energy is so just wonderful, infectious. He's
Speaker 1: back to playing football and it's just rejuvenating him mentally
Speaker 1: and he's having fun. But at the same time, just
Speaker 1: like a discussion I had with him a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks back. It's constantly about what can he do tomorrow?
Speaker 1: What can he do tomorrow? And that's that's probably part
Speaker 1: of the reason why all three of us tend to
Speaker 1: gravitate toward Clark. I mean, I would consider you a grinder.
Speaker 1: I would consider you a grinder. I would consider myself
Speaker 1: a grinder. Right, Damant Clark is absolutely a grinder. Yes,
Speaker 1: And you could tell just by that one text matches
Speaker 1: there to you. That's talking about even though he had
Speaker 1: a great game, his best game as a pro, said
Speaker 1: I've got things to fix, I've got things to move on.
Speaker 1: A professional needs that mentality especially. We gotta find a
Speaker 1: way to look fast, is over all? Right, Let's go
Speaker 1: to the team and Philly, one of our favorite callers
Speaker 1: here on Talking Cowboys. You're all favorite callers, but A
Speaker 1: Kam calls into every single week and it tends to
Speaker 1: get through Kim. How's it going doing all right? Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: the reception. Oh sorry about that, talking about brought the
Speaker 1: compounds something. But yeah, all right, we got you now.
Speaker 1: I was just worried about you know, not really are
Speaker 1: worried concerned the last couple of game. That's my call.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the full starts of the offense. And
Speaker 1: obviously that was after the the Detroit games. Didn't we
Speaker 1: going on to molly wop the Bear? There were going
Speaker 1: to Green Bear? People show them that they are. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, Keim, do us a favorite, give us
Speaker 1: hang up, give us a callback. We'll see if you
Speaker 1: can get through eight eight eight eight five five two
Speaker 1: two nine seven. We'll see if we can get you
Speaker 1: back on the line, get out the compound he's talking about.
Speaker 1: He's talking about the slow starts is initially what he said.
Speaker 1: I wanted to hear what he was concerned about, because
Speaker 1: he was talking about all the way back against Detroit
Speaker 1: and then moving into Chicago and then into Green Bay.
Speaker 1: And then of course I worried about Kyle. What's he
Speaker 1: worried about the same thing that I was worried about.
Speaker 1: In any game that Dallas plays, Dallas has to get
Speaker 1: out to an early league. Why's that because Dallas requires
Speaker 1: this complementary game from offense and defense. If Dallas can
Speaker 1: get out to our early lead on the offense and
Speaker 1: the defense can do what they do best, which is
Speaker 1: what we saw this past weekend by getting after the quarterback. Historically,
Speaker 1: what we have, what we have information for is if
Speaker 1: Dallas gets down, then all of a sudden, Dallas is
Speaker 1: now forced to throw the ball forty plus times a game,
Speaker 1: and now teams are allowed to run the ball efficiently.
Speaker 1: We talked about, you know last week how there's only
Speaker 1: been two teams now three that haven't ran for over
Speaker 1: one hundred yards against the Cowboys or two games. And
Speaker 1: if you're allowed a team to get up early on,
Speaker 1: that's not going to be the result. We've seen one
Speaker 1: hundred and forty yard games. You know, last time we
Speaker 1: faced the Giants, it was one hundred and sixty seven
Speaker 1: yards on the ground. You just alluded to that, you know,
Speaker 1: you talked about the Green Bay games over two hundred,
Speaker 1: talk about Chicago two hundred and forty seven, whatever it was.
Speaker 1: So if teams are allowed to get up, the concern
Speaker 1: is can you throw yourself or do you have patience
Speaker 1: to continue with the ground game to get yourself back
Speaker 1: in the game. And historically, based upon this season, we
Speaker 1: don't have any proof or evidence of that. Well, I
Speaker 1: agree with RS, particularly in the aspect of let's key
Speaker 1: it in on the run defense, one of the better
Speaker 1: ways to execute and run defense obviously outside of you know,
Speaker 1: sticking to your assignments, making sure that you don't step
Speaker 1: outside of yourself. Do your job, do your job, do
Speaker 1: your job, and then schematically, everybody needs to be in
Speaker 1: the right spots. Shouts out to Dan Quinn for what
Speaker 1: they did against the Minnesota Vikings. But get an early lead,
Speaker 1: get an early lead, and then start creating distance. That
Speaker 1: also helps in your run defense by virtue of taking
Speaker 1: the run Russian attack out of the equation altogether. So
Speaker 1: I agree that fast starts need to happen more consistently.
Speaker 1: We see what the Cowboys can be when they get
Speaker 1: off the fast starts, because then they get to control
Speaker 1: time of possession. They get to continue to do what
Speaker 1: they want to do, which is run run play action
Speaker 1: chunk play, chunk play, run run play action chunk play.
Speaker 1: So that formula goes out the window though, when you
Speaker 1: get out to a slow start and the opposing team
Speaker 1: jumps all over you, because now you have to scrap
Speaker 1: that plan and now it's throw yourself back into the game.
Speaker 1: And I do believe the Cowboys can do that. I
Speaker 1: just don't want to see them have to do that
Speaker 1: on a weekly basis, especially going into January. So all right,
Speaker 1: we do have a cheam in Philly back on the
Speaker 1: line and keep me there my fault. Y'all sound much
Speaker 1: better here, so there is good to go. All right,
Speaker 1: y'all also trying to be not an area sheep us.
Speaker 1: You might hear it, but it's fine. Um yeah, my
Speaker 1: last my call, we were talking about the slow starts
Speaker 1: the offense, and that was after the Detroit Lions game,
Speaker 1: I believe it was. And then we went on there
Speaker 1: and trash bears, and then we went in and played
Speaker 1: against the Packers and I'm like wow. And then the
Speaker 1: all of a sudden we come out and we played
Speaker 1: against and totally so they were trash truck you. So
Speaker 1: now I'm like wow, you know, I'm hyped excited, But
Speaker 1: then I had to comments up down like hey, hold on,
Speaker 1: the team has been inconsistent on offense. Now I just
Speaker 1: want to know am I right for thinking like that?
Speaker 1: Or should I basically still be hyped and rode his
Speaker 1: way to the falls off. Thanks y'all, appreciate j Kim
Speaker 1: and glad we were able to get that in as well,
Speaker 1: so it's kind of what you were talking about, maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit different of a question, just talking about
Speaker 1: the inconsistencies of the offense. Should you be excited about
Speaker 1: what you saw on Sunday against Minnesota? You should be
Speaker 1: because you showed it against a good team and as
Speaker 1: a team that had really good players at all three level.
Speaker 1: You know, there's only been a handful of teams that
Speaker 1: we can say that about this year, and so they
Speaker 1: took care of business. So you definitely should be excited
Speaker 1: about that. Now you can have hope that you see
Speaker 1: that every week, right, But the reality is there's some
Speaker 1: teams that are built differently than what Minnesota's built like,
Speaker 1: and there's teams that we will face again that have
Speaker 1: literally loaded up their defense to prevent Dallas from being
Speaker 1: able to run the ball. We're talking Philadelphia teams. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, he's not in dangerous territory, but there's there
Speaker 1: literally are teams like that that are loading up at
Speaker 1: positions because why not just because they wanted they were
Speaker 1: missing one player. They're like, okay them. Our biggest threat
Speaker 1: is the Dallas Cowboys in our division. If we can
Speaker 1: stop the running attack from our biggest threat, and we
Speaker 1: know that their past comes off of their run, then
Speaker 1: we negate their ability to be able to put up
Speaker 1: points that give them the advantage to be able to
Speaker 1: get up early. So that's what I was talking about.
Speaker 1: That's why it's frustrated by about Dallas not making a
Speaker 1: lot of moves and you know in terms of trade
Speaker 1: deadline and free agency and all that stuff, because these
Speaker 1: other teams are planning for the future, like the games
Speaker 1: that will matter. They are not worried about right now.
Speaker 1: They're using the right now as just reps, right, but
Speaker 1: they're preparing for that one game that's gonna matter, that's
Speaker 1: gonna let you launch yourself into the playoffs or launch
Speaker 1: yourself into you know, a divisional championship or whatever it
Speaker 1: may be, and hopefully eventually a super Bowl. That's what
Speaker 1: teams are loading up for. That's what Philadelphia is playing on.
Speaker 1: Philadelphia has now four goons in terms of their interior
Speaker 1: defense alignment, win all healthy and if they can negate
Speaker 1: Dallas from running the ball. We know Dallas is a
Speaker 1: play action team. They are das I'm sorry, Dad's not
Speaker 1: a forty plus you know, a past guy. And if
Speaker 1: you take away the run that's what he has to be,
Speaker 1: and that's what teams want to force. They're trying to
Speaker 1: force Dallas's hand to doing what they feel like they
Speaker 1: do less confidently, and you know what Dallas can do
Speaker 1: to kind of combat that. Plus that when the Beckham
Speaker 1: Bowl on Thursday, and then when the Beckham spree thereafter,
Speaker 1: because then you had another electric receiver to the offense.
Speaker 1: Can't load, and now you can't. You can't load the
Speaker 1: Bucks and those big boys that you dropped in and
Speaker 1: Domin Can, Sue and Josie, well, we're just throwing the
Speaker 1: ball right over here now. And I think they're preparing
Speaker 1: for that too, And I think that's why they're loading
Speaker 1: up so much on the defensive front, because teams are
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to load up their front four
Speaker 1: as heavy as possible so that they don't have to
Speaker 1: load the box, so that they can be prepared for
Speaker 1: when Dallas possibly gets an additional weapon, whether it's a O'Dell,
Speaker 1: whether it's James Washing, whatever it may be, and they
Speaker 1: can spread the field. Okay, yeah, well we'll spread out here. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll let me match our Divisa, but we're gonna leave
Speaker 1: those four or five guys in the box and they're
Speaker 1: they're gonna shut it down. So that's it could be
Speaker 1: so much funnel Christmas, especially if Tyron is blocked by
Speaker 1: then back now it's Tyron and Tyler like Eyler and
Speaker 1: Zach and Terrence against and Dominic Cannon len Vale and
Speaker 1: I like it sweating, Yeah, fireworks on Christmas. Yeah, or
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve, I should say. But it's answer this question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's important that Dallas gets up early. It really is. No,
Speaker 1: it is, and I think it's it's important too. They
Speaker 1: know it's important to celebrate the victories because there hasn't
Speaker 1: been a consistent amount of victories this year, at least
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys offense. Cowboys defense has been great except
Speaker 1: for stopping the run and times. So, like you said, consistency,
Speaker 1: that's the only thing. That's the one you want to
Speaker 1: try and find out. Said a few episodes of Goal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: once you show me you can do something. Once you
Speaker 1: just showed me you can do it twice. And I
Speaker 1: know we've talked about Odell Beckham Junior at nauseum in
Speaker 1: this podcast in this room before. There's an excitement about
Speaker 1: what he could bring from a depth perspective, We're just
Speaker 1: not on board of him being like a number one, right,
Speaker 1: that's kind of where we're at. That's not where you're
Speaker 1: expecting him to be. But he makes your football team
Speaker 1: better by just being in the building. So that's where
Speaker 1: the excitement is with ob J. All right, let's take
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Speaker 1: how's it going up there in Washington? Are randy, But
Speaker 1: it's always good to be on the show. What you fellas? Alrighty,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Well? I just wanted to take
Speaker 1: a second to kind of reflect what that loss to
Speaker 1: Green Bay did for the Cowboys. Okay, Now, some of
Speaker 1: people may say that that, you know, it was a
Speaker 1: hurtful loss, but I think it created a monster. It
Speaker 1: forced the Cowboys to kind of look deep into their
Speaker 1: into themselves and first leadership to step forward, and I
Speaker 1: think it may have been the best thing to happen
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys going forward. So I just want to
Speaker 1: see what you guys thought about that. Thanks for taking
Speaker 1: my call. Thank you very much, Maurice. Every Super Bowl champion,
Speaker 1: every one of them, at least since the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: and probably the New England Patriots when they went up
Speaker 1: to the final game and lost to the Giants. Every
Speaker 1: other Super Bowl champion has had a loss in the
Speaker 1: season where they shouldn't have lost that game. However, we're
Speaker 1: just one week after that loss. It's too earthly to tell.
Speaker 1: I think, in my opinion, what do you guys think
Speaker 1: about the creating a monster? It looked like it did
Speaker 1: just based off of the one game that we've seen.
Speaker 1: I can see the reasoning, But is it too early
Speaker 1: to tell? In that regard, It's too early to tell,
Speaker 1: you know, just simply because we're still we're not even
Speaker 1: at Thanksgiving it, I mean, you're still two days from Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: But in the grand scheme of what might be, I
Speaker 1: see what he's saying, because after the game in Minnesota,
Speaker 1: on the way back, I remember having a conversation we're
Speaker 1: in I literally said, you don't ever want to lose
Speaker 1: a game. You just don't. You don't ever want to
Speaker 1: lose a game. However, much like there's a such thing
Speaker 1: as a signature win like what we just saw the
Speaker 1: Cowboys land, there's such thing as a signature loss that
Speaker 1: can completely make you have that come to Jesus moment
Speaker 1: where you're look in the mirror and say, okay, listen,
Speaker 1: we have to understand that that can never happen again.
Speaker 1: And you carry those scars from that game for the
Speaker 1: remainder of the season to the point where let's say
Speaker 1: you're up on the Indianapolis Coachs fourteen points. Well, now
Speaker 1: you're not going to relax because you remember what happened
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. Or you're up on the Philadelphia Eagles
Speaker 1: by seventeen. Can't relax. Remember what happened in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: So those types of thoughts can carry you. So if
Speaker 1: the Cowboys continue to use that loss in Green Bay
Speaker 1: to power them the way they did against Minnesota. Then yes,
Speaker 1: in the grand scheme, I one hundred percent agreed. This
Speaker 1: could be the signature loss that helps to find the
Speaker 1: season that preceded the signature win in Minnesota. Michael Jackson,
Speaker 1: do you remember the time anyway? To the point of
Speaker 1: my guy, no, seed. You need to remember your scars.
Speaker 1: It's the reason why people opt to get tattoos. You
Speaker 1: get a tattoo for most times to help you remember something.
Speaker 1: You get a tattoo to signify not only to the
Speaker 1: world but to yourself a lot of times, and it
Speaker 1: helps you remember why you do something, helps you remember somebody,
Speaker 1: helps you remember a moment, help you remember it's an
Speaker 1: occasion in your life. So you need those things to
Speaker 1: be able to look at so that you can always
Speaker 1: remember what happened. And if you can look back and say, dang,
Speaker 1: we dropped that when we're in this situation. Now, we're
Speaker 1: in that situation. Now, I don't have to repeat history
Speaker 1: instead of creating history. I don't have to repeat it
Speaker 1: because it's already happened, and I have that as an
Speaker 1: example to look back at and say, ah, don't do
Speaker 1: that again. So is that the game that's gonna launch Dallas?
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you would hope that they don't have to
Speaker 1: drop any other games going forward to help them remember
Speaker 1: what not to do. But every game presents different situations,
Speaker 1: and the one again against green Bay just happened to
Speaker 1: be one that they as a hard lesson that they learned.
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn probably has a freaking scar going down his
Speaker 1: dog on back from the Super Bowl that he'll never forget.
Speaker 1: And I promise you when he faced himself in situations
Speaker 1: like that again, he'll it will never happen again, right
Speaker 1: just because of how how how much that hurt. So
Speaker 1: scars are necessary. Whether or not it's the launch pad.
Speaker 1: That game particularly was the launch pad. We'll have to
Speaker 1: wait and see. I like what you I like what
Speaker 1: you did there. But the tattoo, and that's not saying
Speaker 1: that green Bay tattooed the Cowboys in terms of a
Speaker 1: beat down, but in terms of the metaphor. I like it.
Speaker 1: I think that does make sense and it's something to
Speaker 1: look back on because right now, Cowboys Nation is excited,
Speaker 1: and they should be. Anytime you beat an eight and
Speaker 1: one team thirty seven by thirty seven points on the road,
Speaker 1: you should be excited. Minnesota has a tattoo now, absolutely,
Speaker 1: they do, and that was a tattoo wing. Absolutely, I
Speaker 1: mean they whooped chance, so Molly whopped. Absolutely. You have
Speaker 1: two you have two directions you can go after every lesson.
Speaker 1: You have two directions. I can either sulk up or down,
Speaker 1: And yeah, I can go, I can go down. I
Speaker 1: can stay the same. If I stay the same, I'm
Speaker 1: going down. And if I go down, I'm going down. Right,
Speaker 1: So either way, I'm either going up or I'm going down.
Speaker 1: So I can either use this as something that launches
Speaker 1: me forward, it makes me better, and I take that.
Speaker 1: I take that, or I take that whoop and I
Speaker 1: take those cars and I move forward as a better individual,
Speaker 1: as a better unit, or I get worse. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: now have two signature losses. The one in Green Bay
Speaker 1: was the biggest of the season, but the first signature
Speaker 1: loss came in Week one when they were just a
Speaker 1: miss good points the temper by Buccaneers and lost Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott in the process. What happened afterward, Cooper rushing this defense,
Speaker 1: they rattled off four consecutive wins. Now you're talking about
Speaker 1: a bigger signature loss because this one was on the
Speaker 1: road and you were playing well for the most part
Speaker 1: without the miscommunications. You go up fourteen points on Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers of all people, the demon you've been trying to
Speaker 1: exercise for so long, and you take your foot off
Speaker 1: off the accelerator and you lose that game. So, like
Speaker 1: Asaiah saying, like you're saying, Kyle, let's see what happens,
Speaker 1: because this is now the biggest signature loss of the
Speaker 1: season as far as Green Bay, and boy did they've
Speaker 1: bounced back an answer. So if this propels them equally
Speaker 1: or more so than what week ones loss did to
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, we're in for a fun ride. Feel pretty
Speaker 1: good about it. At that point. The trajectory right now
Speaker 1: is up. You've already seen what direction they went immediately
Speaker 1: after the game. They didn't go down against Minnesota. They
Speaker 1: very easily could have. This could have been a two
Speaker 1: game losing streak, very easily could have because of how
Speaker 1: good Minnesota is. Instead, they came out and played their
Speaker 1: most complete game of the season. They were almost flawless
Speaker 1: in all three phases, and they just kicked Minnesota's butt
Speaker 1: from beginning on the road. So there's excitement there. However,
Speaker 1: that deserves a biscuit, But yes it does. There is
Speaker 1: a turnaround coming this week on Thursday that you have
Speaker 1: to be ready for. Because the Giants are seven and three,
Speaker 1: they can win some games too, just like the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have this season, same record. We'll be back with you
Speaker 1: tomorrow to break it all down for you, little froy
Speaker 1: at home coming off of a signal. Good points, good point.
Speaker 1: We've got your matchups to watch. We're gonna pick some
Speaker 1: games tomorrow and we're gonna get you ready for that
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving matchup. So that way you're the smartest person in
Speaker 1: the room during Thanksgiving lunchtime getting ready for that game
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