WEBVTT - What Else Did Shel Silverstein Write?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to brain Stuff production of iHeart Radio, Hey Rain

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff Lauren voc obam here. Decades ago, in the evenings

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<v Speaker 1>around closing time, a man with a very bald head

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<v Speaker 1>and a very dark beard used to come sloping into

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<v Speaker 1>the Mysterious Bookshop in New York City, his shoulders hunched

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<v Speaker 1>as though warding off a perpetual cold wind. The proprietor,

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<v Speaker 1>Auto Penzler, had come to expect these visits, Indeed, he

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<v Speaker 1>looked forward to them. He would close up the shop

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<v Speaker 1>and guide the man back to his inner sanctum, a

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<v Speaker 1>book line study with Florida ceiling shelves. There, the bearded

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<v Speaker 1>man would deliver a sheaf of papers containing a new,

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<v Speaker 1>freshly penned mystery story to be added to the anthology

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<v Speaker 1>that Penzler was publishing. The writer refused to take any

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<v Speaker 1>money for his efforts, even though Penzler was paying well.

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<v Speaker 1>He craved a different compensation. His eyes gleamed as Penzler

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<v Speaker 1>slid his payment across the desk. Between them, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a stack of used books containing dozens of stories written

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<v Speaker 1>in the mystery genre. Later that night he would devour

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<v Speaker 1>them one by one, But first Penzler and the bearded

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<v Speaker 1>man would talk and talk. They talked about books about life.

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<v Speaker 1>Auto Pendler was just recovering from a devastating breakup, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they spoke about that at length. In a recent

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<v Speaker 1>phone interview for this article, Penzler remembered that at a

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<v Speaker 1>certain juncture, his guest said something so piercingly insightful and

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<v Speaker 1>eloquent about the breakup that it took his breath away.

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<v Speaker 1>Penzler said, I wish that I could remember what he said,

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<v Speaker 1>but I failed to write it down. What I do

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<v Speaker 1>remember is that when I expressed my amazement at his

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<v Speaker 1>facility with words, he just shrugged and said, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that's why they call me a poet. He could have added,

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<v Speaker 1>among many other things, because our bald and bearded man

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<v Speaker 1>was Shell Silverstein, a true Renaissance ban Of course, many

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<v Speaker 1>of us know him as the author and illustrator of

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<v Speaker 1>The Giving Tree, A Light in the Attic, and Where

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<v Speaker 1>the Sidewalk Ends, among many of the other wildly successful

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<v Speaker 1>books that he wrote and drew for children. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>only the tip of the proverbial iceberg. Silverstein also drew

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<v Speaker 1>cartoons and wrote plays for adults, and penned numerous songs,

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<v Speaker 1>especially country songs. In fact, he won two Grammys for

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<v Speaker 1>a songwriting, one of them for the Johnny Cash hit.

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<v Speaker 1>A boy named Sue Sheldon Allan Shell Silverstein was born

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<v Speaker 1>into a Jewish family in Chicago in nineteen thirty. His

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<v Speaker 1>father ran a bakery, which only began to thrive in

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<v Speaker 1>the wake of the Great Depression. After high school, Shell

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<v Speaker 1>spent some time studying at the Art Institute of Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>and later at Roosevelt University, but was drafted into the U. S. Army,

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<v Speaker 1>serving in Korea and Japan. Silverstein began working for the

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<v Speaker 1>military periodical The Stars and Stripes, and it was there

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<v Speaker 1>that he began regularly publishing his idiosyncratic cartoons. After his

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<v Speaker 1>military service, Silverstein got a job as a cartoonist for

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<v Speaker 1>the fledgling magazine Playboy. For his Playboy gig, he traveled

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<v Speaker 1>the world, sending cartoon dispatches from bar and wide. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty three, Silverstein met book editor Ursula Nordstrom, who

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<v Speaker 1>prodded him into writing books for children, and that same

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<v Speaker 1>year he wrote The Giving Tree, a book about the

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<v Speaker 1>nature of altruism and selfishness that would become his most

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<v Speaker 1>famous and popular work. His sense of the absurd, and

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<v Speaker 1>the whimsical cartoon line drawings that illustrated this and all

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<v Speaker 1>of his books would become his hallmarks. In deceptively simple language,

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<v Speaker 1>his exploration of the innocence and imagination of childhood made

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<v Speaker 1>him one of the most celebrated and widely read authors

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<v Speaker 1>for generations of children and adults alike. Otto Penzler recalls

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<v Speaker 1>Silverstein telling him that he spent a year living at

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<v Speaker 1>the Playboy Mansion as a guest of Hugh Hefner. It

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<v Speaker 1>was there that he met Susan Hastings, with whom he

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<v Speaker 1>had a daughter named Shoshanna in nineteen seventy Tragically, Susan

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<v Speaker 1>died in nineteen seventy five, and Shoshanna passed away unexpectedly

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<v Speaker 1>after a cerebral anneurism in nineteen eighty two. By many accounts,

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<v Speaker 1>her death utterly devastated Silverstein. In nineteen eighty four, he

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<v Speaker 1>had a son named Matthew with Sarah Spencer. According to Penzler,

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<v Speaker 1>Silverstein was a deeply eccentric man. Penzler told us, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't unusual for him to be having dinner in

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<v Speaker 1>a restaurant with a group of friends and then suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>announced that he was done, get up, take a taxi

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<v Speaker 1>to the airport, and fly to Chicago or Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>or Florida, or wherever he felt like going on the

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<v Speaker 1>spur of the moment. Shell Silverstein died of a heart

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<v Speaker 1>attack in at the age of just sixty eight, but

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<v Speaker 1>in story, song, and image, he left behind a remarkably

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<v Speaker 1>prolific artistic record. Today's episode was written by Ocean Karen

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<v Speaker 1>and produced by Tyler Clang. For more on this and

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