1 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where sometimes our computer model breaks 2 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: our heart. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Westling 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: podcast studio with my friend Cynthia Freelan. 4 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: Do you get what I'm getting at here? 5 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: Yes, I know exactly what you're getting Right off the bat, 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: I've looked at your computer model for the week. Yeah, 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: this is the show every week where we make three 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: picks against the spread. I hope it's not one of 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: your three picks against the spread, but you do pick 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: every game. The model picks every game against the spread. 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: And I saw that your model not only takes the 12 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills to cover against your Detroit Lions, you have 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: the Bills winning out right in the game of the year. 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't really have a lot to say about 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: that other than I hate it. I hate myself. It 16 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: makes me crazy. I mean, I guess on some level 17 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: then I don't lose in this game, but I also 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: don't win. You know what I'm saying. 19 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: No, you win if the Lions win. I think lose 20 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: if the Lions lose. Knowing you, you don't really care 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: that your model gets no wrong. 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: To be fair, when I look at the like, I 23 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: pick it and it's based on a whole bunch of stats, 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: and sometimes I'm like, what on earth is so. 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 2: This is happens? 26 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: This is kind of the nightmare with AI. The the 27 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: computers have taken over like they are sentient, the fact 28 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: that they're picking the Bills over the lines. Actually, what 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 1: are the kind of the underlying reasons, because I am 30 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: quite surprised by that that on the road, your model, 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: looking at all the numbers, has the Bills as a 32 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: better team, because by a lot of numbers, the Lions 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: are one of the best teams we've ever seen. So 34 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: this is not going to be either one of our 35 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: three picks, but it is such a fascinating game. I 36 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: am curious, like, are there any specific underlying reasons why 37 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: you have the Bills winning well? 38 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: Number one, and first and foremost, the injury report for 39 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: the Lions defense. I mean, when you have the twenty 40 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 3: nineteen Pro Bowl team playing linebacker, things get a little 41 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: dicey when you're facing Josh Allen. Uh. Yeah, that's the 42 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: first reason. And even if they get some of the 43 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: defensive lineman back, that's still a bad part of the 44 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 3: defense to be banged up in and those are guys, 45 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: I mean Alex Angeloni is not coming through that door. 46 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: He's linebackers will not be healthy this week. 47 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: So that's no, we know that, and I don't know 48 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 3: about as we sit here right now, we don't have 49 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: a confirmation that other guys like Zach Pascal, who else 50 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: we're talking about, Aleeen McNeil, We don't know. Maybe they're 51 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: I think we don't think he's on Zerike is playing right? 52 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: And then is Taylor Decker. 53 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: Going to be bad? Looks like it full practice. 54 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 3: Yes, as a Lions fan, all the crosses. 55 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so the linebacker position, yeah, is a. 56 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: Big But the reality is is the things that the 57 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: Lions like to do. Josh Allen is really great at 58 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 3: the Lion's paill out of man. Guess what Josh Allen 59 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 3: does to me? Eighteen touchdowns, three interceptions. The Lions don't 60 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 3: get a lot of pressure. Well, you could argue that 61 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: the Bills could be tired based on the track meet 62 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: they played with the Rams last week. They were in 63 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: hurry up basically all of the second half. That's a 64 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 3: lot of snaps. I mean they did only play fifty 65 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 3: four total snaps. That's about normal for them, but they 66 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 3: were all hurry up snaps. That's wild. However, the lines 67 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: aren't bringing a lot of pressure. They're still having their 68 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: leading sack guy be Aiden Hutchinson, who hasn't played in 69 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 3: like a bajillion week. So the fact is is that's 70 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: the areas where things kind of deplete. If you're talking 71 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: about fatigue. I don't know that's where that's where the model. 72 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: Ok okay, that's where the model stands. Bill's sneaking out. 73 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: That gonna pressure in the quarnerback either, which would worry 74 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: me for a Bills fan heading into this game. I 75 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: like offense, I like a lot of points. I like 76 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: agreed the over. I don't have a hot, you know, 77 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: strong feeling. But I am just not going to pick 78 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: against the Lions this year. Certain I don't want to 79 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: pick again. I want to pick, I'm not, but that 80 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: is not one of my three picks now this week. 81 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: This week, let's look at the standings from last week. 82 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: We got back on the winning track. Both you and 83 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: I went to and one. All right, you're two games 84 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: back on the season, but we're we're both clear over 85 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: five hundred yep, and we're feeling good. Let's go to 86 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: our picks this week. I have to admit, and I 87 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: don't know why this happened. For the first time all season, 88 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: I struggled to get to three games. 89 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: I just didn't. 90 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: Usually I have ones just screaming at him. I gotta 91 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: take them, love them, and then I have extras and 92 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: I you know, I just I have so many. This 93 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: one I struggled to get past like one or two. 94 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,559 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna have you start. 95 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'm gonna go ahead and take Denver. And 96 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 3: I think, Denver, what are you looking at me? Because no, no, 97 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: that was that one of yours? 98 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: No? 99 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 3: Oh good, Well that's kind of good. They are four 100 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 3: point favorites at home. I like that number compared to 101 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 3: some of the other numbers this week. Of course, I'd 102 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: like a narrower gap. Three would be more fun, but 103 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: whatever four will will be fine in this matchup. I 104 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: think what I'm looking at from Indianapolis is a the 105 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: things that this Denver defense is absolutely exceptional at. They're 106 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 3: really really strong against on the defensive side. And even 107 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: if Riley Moss doesn't play, and he's a really big 108 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 3: fan like he's been in a really excellent part of 109 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: that secondary, it kind of doesn't matter because I'm not 110 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 3: so worried about what Anthony Richardson's going to do on 111 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 3: the types of passes that don't go to Patrick's ortan 112 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: or they can't figure out. Plus they've had a week 113 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 3: of rest. I think the middle of that defense is terrifying. 114 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: That's where Anthony Richardson likes to run. I just don't 115 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 3: think this is a great matchup for what we've seen from. 116 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: Ar Okay, I like it. I gotta be better about 117 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: a poker face. 118 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: So yeah. 119 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: Colleen Wolfe has talked about this that it was an 120 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: adjustment period when she used to do the Around the 121 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 1: NFL podcast and then she realized that's just resting Greg face, 122 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: got it. You know, it's just I struggled to hide 123 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: my emotion that look like a mat at the person 124 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: or something. In this particular case. The reason why I 125 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: maybe made a face, it's not you know, you never 126 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: know what it is, right, It's not about you or 127 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 1: your pick. It actually is because I'm like, I agree 128 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: with you. I have the Broncos covering. They're not one 129 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: of my three. It's more that I've made the Broncos 130 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: fan base so angry this week by not having bow 131 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: Nicks in my top five Offensive Rookie of the Year. 132 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: I did see it. 133 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: It's just it's just going, It just keeps going. I 134 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: don't have my mentions on on Twitter anyways. I'm not 135 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 1: really checking in too often. They're more of a blue 136 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: Sky guy these days. But there is a human part 137 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: of me that would like to see them lose this game. 138 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 3: Yes, got it? Well that yeah, as long as it's 139 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: not As long as that look isn't directed at me 140 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 3: or my math, we're good. 141 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: And yeah, we do a show together that everyone can 142 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: check out on YouTube as well, where it'll say Week 143 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: fifteen picks from the NFL, but it's on NFL Network 144 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: NFL Game Debut, and I have the Broncos covering as well, 145 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: because I just think they're a better team on both 146 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: sides of the ball. If you tell me that your 147 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: team is going to protect your quarterback better and it's 148 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: going to get more pass rush than the other team 149 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: on a like on an every week basis, and almost 150 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: certainly in this matchup, then like I'm just going to 151 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: take you to win probably, And they're they're better coach, 152 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: I believe overall. 153 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 2: John Payton versus Gus Bradley not that even. 154 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but Also, I thought it was very smart they 155 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 3: resigned Garatt Bulls right now. Just so everyone's clear, I've 156 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 3: already started some draft prep. This is not a good 157 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: offensive line draft class. There are like two that are 158 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: Day one starters after that, Slim Pickens and Good. No, 159 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: that is a smart thing for them to lock down 160 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: right now so they have flexibility come draft time. They 161 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: don't need to reach to try to because there's a 162 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: ton of teams that need offensive line help. 163 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, New England Patriots. 164 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: A lot of teams, a lot of teams. 165 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: They signed Quinn Minors their guard before the start of 166 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: the season. That's what Sean Payton tell me, Tom, Tom, 167 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: spend big look at Cynthia. 168 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: She's such a helpful pro. 169 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: She's putting some news into the program that would no 170 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: longer that would not have been there. Yes, Garrett Bull's 171 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: getting a nice new deal from the Broncos. Okay, so 172 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: the one pick that I did like right away was 173 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: Viking's minus six point five. 174 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: I'm on that with you, all over that with you. 175 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: When I look at division games, especially when they're playing 176 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: twice in a short period. 177 00:07:59,200 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: Maybe this is. 178 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: Stupid, but there's probably no scientific backing to that this 179 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: at all, but I really feel it in my bones, 180 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: and the two teams are not even, and we can say, 181 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: just look at the records, they're not even in one 182 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: of those two games. In a division matchup, especially when 183 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: they're playing close, usually the bad team is gonna it's 184 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: gonna cover, It might win the game outright, and it 185 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: evens out and then then the other one what you 186 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: expect is gonna happen, is gonna happen. So I always 187 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: picked games off of that. It was why partly I 188 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: had the Steelers covering last week. I felt great about 189 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: that number against the Browns. I was like, they just 190 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: lost to the Browns. Good coaching staff. Now they're going 191 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: back home. Are not gonna lose two straight to the Browns. 192 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: I actually think they'll They'll play a very solid game, 193 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: win comfortably. That was one of my two two wins 194 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: last week. Very similar situation. The Vikings and the Bears 195 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: just played. It was a three point game, it was 196 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: in Chicago. It was probably Campball Williams's best games of 197 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: the season. Then you look at the defense for the Bears, 198 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: which has been getting worse and worse and worse all year, 199 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: and then you take matt Abrafleus out of the picture. 200 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: I'm just saying last week they looked as bad as 201 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: they have ever looked, and frankly, they weren't that good before. 202 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: They're not getting a consistent pass rush, just personnel wise 203 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: up front, and I think the Vikings will be able 204 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: to protect Sam Darnold. And yes, I actually think they 205 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: missed matt Abraflus on the defensive side, because now you 206 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: got Thomas Brown's been promoted so many times, you're running 207 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: out a you know, offensive guys to run everything, and 208 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: now on the defensive side, he took out ebra Flus. 209 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: You've been picking up these guys for Eberflus's defense for years. 210 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: I just think the Vikings are humming right now, and 211 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: I would put their over under on their points at 212 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: about thirty one, and I just don't think the Bears 213 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: can keep up in a shootout like that. 214 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: I'm with you. You need to teach Thomas Brown about 215 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: the poker face, because I watch his pressers and he's 216 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: just mad, really big mad in them, and I'm like, 217 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you. What did you 218 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: think we're getting into? Plus DeAndre Swift has been on 219 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 3: the injury report. It's not like they're getting could push 220 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: from their run game anyways. So, yikes, this is a 221 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: team that has allowed so like tons of sacks all 222 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: of the unblocked pressures, and the Vikings bring the heat. 223 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: And they did a pretty good job against a couple 224 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: of weeks ago. 225 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: But that is I think fifty fourths. I know it's 226 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: the most sacks, but I think it's fifty four. 227 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: That's That's a bigger reason why I like the Vikings 228 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,599 Speaker 1: better because this coaching staff, who has all the stability 229 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: in the world. Okay, what did they do to us 230 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: last time? Let's fix it. They will fix it, all right. 231 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: What's your second pick? 232 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: I know you're on the other side of this one. 233 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: Let's be spicy Tampa Bay. Okay, let's do it Tampa now. 234 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: Not them. 235 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: Only am I on the other side in terms of 236 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: I just disagree. We're going to go head to head four, 237 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: we're man versus model. This is going to be one 238 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: of my picks. 239 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, so it's three points, Yes, that's what I'm seeing. 240 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 3: Is that what you're seeing anyways? Two and a half okay, 241 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: two and a half, three whatever, that's it's okay. 242 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: I like it. 243 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: Both. When I'm looking at the opportunity here, I'm very 244 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 3: worried about the injury report for the Chargers. I'm not 245 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 3: sure if Lad McConkie is good to go. 246 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: JK. 247 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 3: Dobbins is justin Herbert Okay. I mean he maybe didn't 248 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 3: go off in an air cast like other people, but 249 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: he does not look like he was completely healthy. That 250 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 3: scares me. That scares me in large part because when 251 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: I'm looking at Baker Mayfield's ability to withstand pressure, his 252 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 3: O line has really been helping him out past couple 253 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: of weeks. He's been like not even hit at a 254 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: high rate at all, and that's been very helpful. Plus, 255 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 3: they are trying to get Mike Evans that one thousand 256 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: yard mark for the eleventh straight season. He's four hundred 257 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: and ten yards away. Just needs a measly one oh 258 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: two point five per game. Okay, But ultimately I think 259 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 3: that is where one of the mismatches lies. And I'm 260 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 3: worried about the running backs. But they still have Rashad 261 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 3: White even if Bucky Irving isn't good to go, and 262 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 3: they've been getting a lot of good push on the inside, 263 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: where recently has been a vulnerable spot. Of the Chargers defense. 264 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, those are all good arguments. 265 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: The Chargers offensive line a little weak on the inside too, 266 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: and you could see Vita Vea and Klasure Canty having 267 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: They have some. 268 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 3: Of the best names, like Vita Vea Klaijah Canty. There's fun. 269 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: You do make me a little worried about the Herbert 270 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: factor now, obviously, if Herbert's status is at all in question, 271 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm flying away from this picking. 272 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say something very non 273 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: PG there for a second half. I'm flying away. 274 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm getting out of here, and I have to come 275 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: up with a backup pick. But I assume he finished 276 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: that game out. He's justin Herbert. I assume he's gonna. 277 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 3: I assume he's gonna play. But does that mean he's okay? 278 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: That is a worry. He has an ankle injury. He 279 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: played through it well in Kansas City. Won't be as 280 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: cold in this situation. 281 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: He will be in the. 282 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 3: Maybe so, but maybe the coldness was like ice, you know, 283 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: kept it the swelling under control. 284 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: I just think the Chargers are a better team overall. 285 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: I think they're better coached. Sorry, Todd Bowles. 286 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: I think their quarterback is such a difference maker compared 287 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: to Baker. I feel like Baker has been getting away 288 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: with it. Of course he had last month of the season. 289 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: He can't keep getting away with it, bad decisions, interceptions, fumbles. 290 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: Everyone had this idea because you look at the total 291 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: yards and touchdowns for the season, that he's having this 292 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: great season. He's having now about the season that you 293 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: would expect. But if you look at just the last month, 294 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: which has been against bad defenses for the most part, 295 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: he's not seeing the field well, He's not making good decisions. 296 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: And so that alone against this Chargers defense coming off 297 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: a loss, and there is something just emotionally. When I 298 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: saw Jim Harbaugh on the podium after that game and 299 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: he was so mad and so miserable, and it was 300 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: just talking about how he can't wait for them to respond, 301 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, they're gonna win next week. 302 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: So that's also part of it. I'm stupid. 303 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: And see the reports are that there's a good chance 304 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: lad Mconkee comes back. It sounds like he's going to 305 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: be practicing. He is integral to what they are trying 306 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: to do. But I do like how they were able 307 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: to run the ball late against Kansas City, so Ultimately, 308 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm just doing it on recent form. Even though I've 309 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: been on the Bucks all year. I picked them to 310 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: win the NFC, so still think they still will. Of course, 311 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: I actually think they're playing worriesome football on the offensive 312 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: side lately. So I like the Chargers in this game 313 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: just on recent form. Okay, we're up against each other. 314 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if we've done that all year because 315 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: we've been trying to give. 316 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 3: Our Yeah, but I feel like next week you're gonna 317 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 3: be like, yeah, but he was hurt, Like I mean, 318 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. 319 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: That's like I'm know. I just just making this decision. 320 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: Minus two and a half is what I see. I'm 321 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: making it no matter what happens. Now, if he misses 322 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: the game entirely, I'm giving a backup pick. But perfect 323 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: right now, Okay, I like it. I'm going Washington, as 324 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: my dad says, touchdown. Yeah, I like that, wash over 325 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: New Orleans. Yeah, that's pretty good. I have a ten 326 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: point win for them. 327 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: What I like. My models don't love double digits. It's 328 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: just very hard to do in terms of how models work. 329 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 3: And so when you get I have two double digit 330 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: wins this week by two different teams, which is that's wild. 331 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: Minnesota is the other one, just so you know. But 332 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: I'm looking at the opportunity for Washington against New Orleans 333 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: with who's playing let's make a list. I mean, that's 334 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 3: probably easier. There's just a lot of a lot of 335 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 3: missing pieces on this New Orleans offense and defense. So 336 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 3: Marshaun Lattimore revenge just kidding, Yeah, No, that's a good one, 337 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: Like he's probably gonna play, which increases the opportunity to 338 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: stop the pass. The guy leads the league and passes 339 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: defense since he became an NFL pro twenty seventeen, So 340 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: that's great. But you know, I also think that you know, 341 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels now has a moment to regroup after the 342 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: start of the season. You know, they had their buy 343 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: their fift Kingsbury people are like, oh, does this numbers 344 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: all go down? Well, this is a defense where it 345 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: doesn't matter if Cliff Kingsbury's tendencies are that he kind 346 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 3: of shows everyone everything too early. I don't think this 347 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: defense has enough juice to kind of stop the multiple 348 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 3: threats that are Terry McLaurin, Brian Robinson, who presumably fully 349 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 3: healthy now, so you know those are the two. 350 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: I like that. 351 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: I agree with you on that one. I do think 352 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: that's a Latimer revenge game. It's kind of funny though, 353 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: like who does even cover on on the Saints, like 354 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: Kevin Austen, Like it's crazy how deep into their depth 355 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: chart there are Marcus Valdez scanting certainly, although that might 356 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: not be the best, you know, just a pure burner 357 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: against a guy coming off a hamstring injury. But they're 358 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: coming off to buy, they're rested, they're more talented, and 359 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: the most important thing is yeah, it's either Jay Hayne 360 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: or or Spencer Rattler at quarterback. They're competing supposedly at practice, 361 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: which is never a great sign before a regular season game, 362 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: So that one makes all the sense in the world 363 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: to me. 364 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: In fact, that'll be my backup pick. So if you 365 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: actually care about. 366 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: These things, and since we do keep track of the records, 367 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: if Justin Herbert does not play, I'll go just go 368 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: with you on Washington minus seven. My final pick, which 369 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: I'm guessing is your third double digit score of the week, 370 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: is I went through all the games. I just didn't 371 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: have a lot of hot like picks against the spread, 372 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: like Bengals okay in Tennessee. I like the Ravens minus 373 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: sixteen and a half wherever they're at, Like, I kind 374 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: of love it. It's against Tommy DeVito, who was the 375 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: quarterback the last time there was a spread this high 376 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL. On game deyview I with a straight face, 377 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: I was like, how is this game gonna go? I 378 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: put Ravens forty four Giants six. So that's the type 379 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: of game I think it is. I think the Ravens 380 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: needed that buy worse than any team in the entire NFL. 381 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: They were just tired. They've been in big game after 382 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: big game after big game after big game. Why are 383 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: you laughing? Forty four to six? Yes, I mean it 384 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: is silly to take up minus sixteen and a half, 385 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: but that's that's why they made the numbers so high. 386 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: The reason I really want to take it, though, is 387 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: I really think their defense was coming around before before 388 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: the bye. So you got an improved pass rush and 389 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: an improved secondary against Tommy DeVito and there's no one 390 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: healthy on this offensive line. Their backups as backups as 391 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: backups are hurt. Let's go Ravens forty four to six. 392 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: They cover sixty and a half easy. 393 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 3: If it's either total here as forty three, right, sure, 394 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 3: I love the over for that, love the over, love it. 395 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: The Ravens are one of the best offenses I've ever seen, 396 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: and it's against This isn't one of the worst defenses 397 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. It's not even a bottom five defense 398 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: this year. It's probably like twenty third. So it's one 399 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: of the best offenses against a bad defense and what 400 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: I would say is the worst offense in the league 401 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: right now against an improving defense. And it's a team 402 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: that's rested and what needs to win wants to win. 403 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: The atmosphere is going to be terrible in the metalwlands 404 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: like that. It's going to be Ravens fans and booing 405 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: Giants fans. So I take it back. Forget about not 406 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: liking picks this week, but I just talked myself into this. 407 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: This was the one I had to search for. But 408 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: now I like it a lot. It's actually it's actually 409 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: the Chargers you made me worried about. But I feel 410 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: great about Ravens and Vikings. 411 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm with you that. I mean I have 412 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 3: a thirteen point win for the Ravens. 413 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 2: I get it. Though your model it's model. 414 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: The problem. The problem when you model things is that 415 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: it's very rare for a projection pre game to be 416 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: that it just doesn't happen very often because you know, 417 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: teams will rest, teams will like maybe Derek Henery isn't 418 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 3: playing in the second half. Like there's just some things 419 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: that happen when when teams get up big this late 420 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 3: in the season that are at they throw a little 421 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 3: monkey wrench in there. 422 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: They're gonna want to get the MVP for Lamar Jackson. 423 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm not like Rashota, and yet it happens all the time. 424 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: For instance, like I'm just looking at last week. No, no, 425 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm not looking at the results. 426 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 3: I'm looking at the like you remember ahead of the games, right, 427 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 3: Like it's it's rare to have. It's rare for me 428 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: to have a thirteen point win projective for anyone. 429 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: Right. 430 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: My point is like there are a couple of big 431 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: time blowouts every week. 432 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 2: For forty nine Ers Bears. 433 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: Was one last week in the end, Vikings would have 434 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: covered a sixteen point spread against the Falcons, you know 435 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago it was harder to find. 436 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: But like Commander's Titans, that's a big time blowout like 437 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: sure Bill's forty nine ers. These things happen, and I 438 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: think this is where it's gonna happen. They go this 439 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: week like a THEA. 440 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: You've done it again. 441 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 3: You know it's it's all you? You you are my friend. 442 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: Wait before we leave here, Yeah, how do you feel 443 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 3: about your old coach going down to UNC? Are you 444 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 3: now tar Hill blue? Did you go buy some like 445 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 3: our guy? I'll tar Hio blue stuff? Are you like 446 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 3: a Michael Jordan lover? Now? 447 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: I am excited about it, just as a football fan. 448 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: I wanted him out of the media and back on 449 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: the sideline as almost as badly as he did, because 450 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: I got the sense he wasn't really putting his all 451 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: into the media game, and I was a little disappointed 452 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: by that. 453 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 2: But he's born to be a coach. 454 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: I actually had on my friend Ali Connelly on the 455 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: Thursday night football recap show he talked about because he 456 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: had broken this Bellot story and so it talked a 457 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: lot about it there, and. 458 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: Uh, I think it'll be cool. 459 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: I think it'll be weird, and I just hope he is, 460 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: like imagine as enough good players that and as enough 461 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: good offensive coaches that he can out scheme the hell 462 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: out of like Dabo Sweeney and whoever the hell else 463 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: is in the a CC. 464 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: It'll be great. 465 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 3: I think he'll be g Can you imagine Bill going 466 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: to like someone's house being like, hello, come play for 467 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 3: my team. 468 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to do a lot of that. 469 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: You know, Dion has set up this new model. 470 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: I get it, but like Van doesn't. 471 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: Go to anyone's house either, They come to him. That's 472 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: what I would come to Diana. 473 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 3: I would come to Bill too, But like, can you 474 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 3: even imagine if that were like a thing you like, 475 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: come to your house like thank you for having me? 476 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: Do you want to? Like? I can't imagine having an 477 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 3: energy of like a Dobbels means like we'll get you this, 478 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 3: we'll get you that, and blah blah blah. 479 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: Nope. 480 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 3: I think Bill will be like do your job next, 481 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 3: man up. 482 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: Okay, So I heard a comparison of like there's multiple 483 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: Bills though, right, there's the Bill that you see in 484 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: front of the podium. There's Bill as a coach, but 485 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: then there's Nantucket Bill. You know I've seen him and 486 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: maybe you have huh wow, Kyle, my fiance, his family, 487 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: lives in Nantucket in the summer. That's a that's a 488 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: podcast for another time. I want to hear what Nantucket. 489 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 3: Bill is like, super nice, nicest person. 490 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: Maybe you get a little bit of both because it's 491 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: like it's college. It's not quite as hard, it's not 492 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: quite as stressful as the NFL. Maybe you get a 493 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: little chiller kind of it's wearing his color, wearing his polos. 494 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 3: None of a good job, UNC. None of us would 495 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: have been talking about North Carolina football. But and now 496 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 3: it's all I can read. Arthur Smith, this, Ben Johnson 497 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 3: bull like does it? How does this tar? He'll feel? 498 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: How does that target? But like mate? Good for them. 499 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor one of the greatest Bill Belichick players ever, 500 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: probably the greatest. 501 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 2: Yes, well, I guess there was one other guy. 502 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: He went to quarterback, but that one went to Michigan, 503 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: you know, and he he was on offense, and Bill 504 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,239 Speaker 1: doesn't really care about offense. That's the one thing I'm 505 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: a little worried about is that he finds the right 506 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia. Smart guys that are. 507 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: Sure Matt Patricia will come in there and do the 508 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 3: offense just like you did for the Patriots. For you 509 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 3: last year. 510 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 2: Huh, I really will be a unc fan. I want to. 511 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 2: I wanted to if I wanted to go well too. 512 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: I think this will be a happier kindler Bill and 513 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: anyone Donaldson Like. 514 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: Are you freaking kidding me? Like I wouldn't wait waiting 515 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 3: my whole life for this, and now like, are you 516 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 3: freaking kidding me? 517 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 2: How about? 518 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: How about if you're the coach of duke? Who is 519 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: the coach of Duke? It's no longer David Cutliffe anymore. No, 520 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: I don't know who I should know this. 521 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: This is great. 522 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: It's Manny dsh oh oh okay, oh, Mario Cristobal, He's 523 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: going to be like facing sometimes. This will be This 524 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: will be a lot of fun. Uh, It's always fun 525 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: with Cynthia. We will be back next week and we 526 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: will be back on Sunday. The recap show, No byes. 527 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: It's a big fifties Dame recap show with Patrick, Kevin 528 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: Patrick coming at Chuck coming onto this show as well, 529 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: and of course Nick shook. 530 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: Look when when Bill. 531 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 3: Belichick back in the saddle. 532 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: I already said that on Thursday. Look when we're going 533 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: up against each other because we want that title. Yea 534 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: at the end of the season. That's when you know 535 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: football is back. This Sunday