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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Our three of The Clay Travis and

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show starts right now. Buck. That's me. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: that's third person speaking to you Solar today. Because Clay

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Speaker 1: is on vacation. He'll be back with us all hanging

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Speaker 1: out on Monday. I'll be with him next week in Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: So if you happen to see a guy on an

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Speaker 1: electric scooter with an almost unfathomable swoop of hair blowing

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Speaker 1: in the wind on his e scooter in Nashville, that

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Speaker 1: will be me. So please say hi. It would be

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Speaker 1: great to catch up with some of my favorite Nashvillians.

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Speaker 1: I think that's how we say it right. So we'll

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Speaker 1: be there next week. All right. I have a few

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Speaker 1: things tell you about this hour. One is we have

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Speaker 1: Heather McDonald joining us in at the bottom of the hour,

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Speaker 1: coming up to talk about the real violence stats in

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Speaker 1: this country and the violent stats as a result as

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Speaker 1: it relates to race and the different stories that have

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Speaker 1: come up recently, including the young man who was shot

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Speaker 1: and also then the woman who was shot and killed

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Speaker 1: in upstate New York. Will be talking to Heather about

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Speaker 1: that coming up here in just a little bit. But

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Speaker 1: I have to tell you, I think that I can

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Speaker 1: see where this is going and talking about Pence, Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump's former vice president, who was just yesterday testifying according

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Speaker 1: to this Maggie Haberman piece in the New York Times,

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Speaker 1: Maggie Haberman, who Trump sat down with for many many interviews.

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Speaker 1: I think Trump actually said at one point she was

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Speaker 1: like his therapist. I would recommend, by the way, whoever

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Speaker 1: the Republican nominee and then president is the next time around,

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Speaker 1: not give a lot of access to The New York Times.

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Speaker 1: I think that people are learning no matter it doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter how adept you are at handling the media, doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter whether you are skilled at evading their ambushes or not.

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Speaker 1: They will just edit and cut and paste and attack.

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Speaker 1: So what's really the point. Anyway, we have Maggie Haberman

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Speaker 1: here reporting on this one that Pence Mike Pence appeared

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Speaker 1: in DC in the Federal Distic Court in DC in

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Speaker 1: response to a subpoena and spent five hours, five hours

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Speaker 1: behind closed doors testifying about January sixth and the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty election. Now here is what we know is underway already.

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Speaker 1: You have the brag prosecution in New York, which I

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Speaker 1: really think was meant to just be an incremental step

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Speaker 1: toward much more serious misuse of the legal system against

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Down the line that that was the break

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Speaker 1: the Ice prosecution. I think there's more coming now. I've

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Speaker 1: or it might be state's attorney. It's tough to remember

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Speaker 1: in all these different places. But Prosecutor willis in the

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Speaker 1: state of Georgia in Atlanta and the likely decision there

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Speaker 1: for whether or not there are charges relating to election

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Speaker 1: and even racketeering, racketeer, influence, corrupt organization charges that would

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Speaker 1: be brought against Donald Trump for what they claim were

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Speaker 1: efforts to interfere in the Georgia election ballot counting of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. But what is this DC DC federal court

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Speaker 1: bringing Mike Pence in all about? Right? Why are they

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Speaker 1: going through this five hours of testimony? Trump and pens

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Speaker 1: both fought against this clan. The speech or debate clause

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Speaker 1: of the Constitution should prevent this. But courts not a

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Speaker 1: shock to any of you did not agree with their

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Speaker 1: you have partisan judges and partisan prosecutorial systems in I mean,

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Speaker 1: DC is among the most one sided political atmospheres you'll

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Speaker 1: even more Democrat than New York. I think San Francisco

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Speaker 1: conversation for another time. This is what's happening. They're having Pence,

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Speaker 1: the headpens testify for five hours behind closed doors. Why

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Speaker 1: let's get to the Why they're gonna bring federal charges

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Speaker 1: against Donald Trump. I think that's almost I wouldn't say

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Speaker 1: a certainty now, but it's a probability, a probability. It

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Speaker 1: is probable they're going to bring a federal charge against

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. They're going to, keep in mind, now, bring

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Speaker 1: federal felonies against Donald Trump in an election cycle where

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Speaker 1: he is also probable to be the Republican nominee based

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Speaker 1: right now, that is a likely scenario. This is I mean,

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Speaker 1: We've got a couple of emails about this last week.

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Speaker 1: Put that in quotes. That's what they say. I know

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Speaker 1: So they were saying, oh, we have to protect our institutions.

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Speaker 1: Those institutions are only validated by the elections that put

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Speaker 1: people in place to oversee those institutions. Right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: what is the purpose of all of these different systems

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Speaker 1: one because I don't want to get it. I don't

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Speaker 1: like to get ahead of things. As you know, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a catastrophist, right. I don't say, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: I try to prepare for what I think is coming

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Speaker 1: But I'm not. Oh, you know, it's it's easy to

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Speaker 1: get It's easy to get people's attention by saying all

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Speaker 1: horrible stuff didn't happen, but they were paying attention to you.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a game that's played by a lot of

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Speaker 1: I think that you're going to see a multi pronged

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Speaker 1: It's the pandemic year Biden in the basement, the BLM

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Speaker 1: behind closed doors. Let's let's reverse engineer this for a second. Right,

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Speaker 1: so clear that Bragg, Alvin Bragg, the District Attorney of

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Speaker 1: what is the downside in their minds to them personally

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Speaker 1: a hugely destabilizing. I used to use that word a lot,

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Speaker 1: Bringing the federal prosecution against Donald Trump, that would threaten

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Speaker 1: the Mueller probe, but then they realized it's a little

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Speaker 1: more complicated because first of all, the Russia collusion thing

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Speaker 1: so can you really even do this constitutionally? That's a

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Speaker 1: problem for them, right, They couldn't fully weaponize the system

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Speaker 1: This guy's in his late seventies and suddenly he's got

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Speaker 1: They may do that. I hope they don't because of

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Speaker 1: you know, and Georgia and the federal courts in DC

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Speaker 1: and the district and the Department of Justice, do they

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Speaker 1: for the country. And even as I say that out loud,

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Speaker 1: I think some of you are probably laughing. Right. That's it, though, folks,

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Speaker 1: That's the only what else is going to stop them.

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Speaker 1: All the incentives, they'll be heroes to their side. They

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Speaker 1: They said Trump was like Mussolini. Trump was like Hitler.

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Speaker 1: Trump was like, well, the left like stalin this country,

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Speaker 1: a little early and it may not happen until next year,

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Speaker 1: and perhaps we'll revisit this. And I hope I am

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Speaker 1: you now and say, does it sound like I'm wrong?

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Speaker 1: And what are we gonna do? What will we do?

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Speaker 1: If they will? All you can do is fight back

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Speaker 1: Clay and Buck. All right, welcome back everybody to the

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Speaker 1: has a new book out. When Race Trump's merit, how

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Speaker 1: But I actually want to start Heather with your new

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Speaker 1: A counterfactual narrative. This is up at City Journal, and

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Speaker 1: your subhetting is that the notion that blacks are an

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Speaker 2: Well, in Kansas City where the alleged knocking on the door,

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Speaker 1: Heather, you know, that same weekend when there was the shooting,

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Speaker 2: Attention because it doesn't fit the narrative. You know, I

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Speaker 2: We're involved in a lie today that is involved that

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Speaker 1: Have we started to see Heather? I'm speaking to Heather

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Speaker 1: recent years have resulted in more violence, more crime, everything

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Speaker 1: has gotten worse. And you go to Chicago is the

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Speaker 1: perfect case in point. They're saying, oh, yeah, let's double

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Speaker 1: down on this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So the districts that voted the most highest numbers for

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Speaker 2: Brandon Johnson the Lefty were black. So I've made a point, buck,

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Speaker 2: in my writing on police, to give voice to those good,

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Speaker 2: law abiding, precious people in black communities that beg for

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Speaker 2: more police protection. Those are the people in New York

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Speaker 2: Times won't listen to. On the other hand, Buck, I

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Speaker 2: have to admit that they're there still a significant portion

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Speaker 2: of Black voters who would rather vote on ideological grounds,

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Speaker 2: oppositional culture of hatred of the police, and simply put

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Speaker 2: up with this level of violence. Now again, there are

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Speaker 2: people that are out there organizing on weekends, trying to

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Speaker 2: rally the community, trying to motivate parents to take control

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Speaker 2: of their fairal youth, their children. But the numbers are

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Speaker 2: troubling and fairly inexplicable. And it is, as you say,

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Speaker 2: we have reached a new level of racial division, of

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Speaker 2: racial victimology, of strength through victimhood. The race hustle at

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Speaker 2: this point is again my mouth hangs open. We believe

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Speaker 2: this narrative that would take them at space value, that

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Speaker 2: black lives matter. You know, there's children in Kansas City

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Speaker 2: that have been killed. One year old Tyrant patent Into

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty killed when the car who was riding in

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Speaker 2: was riddled with bullets. Same year, four year old legend

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Speaker 2: Tell Afaraoh was shot while sleeping in his father's apartment. Heartbreaking,

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Speaker 2: heartbreaking murders, and not a single Black Lives activist shows

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Speaker 2: up to protest them because they're all black on black.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been really troubling to see. Also, in the

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Speaker 1: same weekend, for example, the Ralph y'ar all shooting happened,

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Speaker 1: there was a mass shooting at a sweet sixteen in Alabama,

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Speaker 1: the media coverage of the completely non fatal, thankfully shooting

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Speaker 1: of Ralph Yarrol.

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Speaker 2: So again it's all explained by the grid. The grid

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Speaker 2: is the only crime that the media we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: is the rare instance where a police officer harms a

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Speaker 2: black person or a white person harms a black person.

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Speaker 2: Every other configuration is of no interest whatsoever, because we

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Speaker 2: turn our eyes away from the the insane drive by

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Speaker 2: every single day. But dozens of blacks are killed. Dozens,

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Speaker 2: that's more. Blacks are thirteen percent of the population. That's

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Speaker 2: more than all white and Hispanic homicide victims combined on

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Speaker 2: a daily basis. After the media of the Journal of

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Speaker 2: American Medicine put out a study that said, well, after

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Speaker 2: the first eighteen months of the pandemic, well translate that

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Speaker 2: as after the George Floyd race riots, looked at four cities,

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Speaker 2: and the rate at which black juveniles were killed in

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Speaker 2: gun homicide was now one hundred times the rate at

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Speaker 2: which white juveniles are killed in gun homicide. Why they're

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Speaker 2: being killed by other blacks, and that is why we're

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Speaker 2: never ever going to talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the double the Democrat Party in the Biden White House,

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Speaker 1: all the way on down, has no interest in looking

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Speaker 1: difficult to avoid eating stuff that is not good. Like

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Speaker 1: if I if I just let it Rick Man, like,

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Speaker 1: what am I really? You gotta avoid seed oils, you gotta,

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Speaker 1: this stuff. So I don't know, maybe we can all

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Speaker 1: sort of declare the weekends to be something of a

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Speaker 1: food a food free for all. You know, you want

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Speaker 1: to try to keep it healthy Monday through Friday. But

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Speaker 1: it's tough, you know. Carrie got a I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you guys the truth here because this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be this is gonna be tough. Carrie got an

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Speaker 1: ice cream maker. Now that's one of those things that

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Speaker 1: you know. She said, she said, should I get you

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Speaker 1: an ice cream maker? And I've I told her.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, sure, get the ice get the ice cream maker,

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Speaker 4: because I'm gonna we're gonna make sorbet. You know, we're

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Speaker 4: gonna be healthy, We're gonna have sorbet. We've had a

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Speaker 1: But now I'm starting to be like, hey, have you

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Speaker 1: seen this recipe for like cookieto ice cream? Or hey

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Speaker 1: have you seen so it's I feel like the struggle

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Speaker 1: more omnipresent than ever, and on the weekends it's just

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Speaker 1: so easy to be like, you know what, you know,

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Speaker 1: look at each other. I ended up getting, you know,

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Speaker 1: calling it a day. Wasn't gonna eat anything really really

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Speaker 1: beyond that. But this is one of the challenges that

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Speaker 1: I see for many of us is that we want food.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit like social media, right. Social media

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Speaker 1: if you get I'm not advising anyone to get on

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Speaker 1: airplane or waiting for a plane on social media. But

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Speaker 1: reading a book. So it's just like that for me,

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Speaker 1: the deliciousness of our cuisine. I'm going to be making

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Speaker 1: some roast chicken this weekend, and it's you know, I

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Speaker 1: know I could just have some chicken breast and it

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Speaker 1: Maybe I want to do a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: pan sauce. You know, you just start going down this

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Speaker 1: pathway and I guess there's the alternative here just saying

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Speaker 1: you know what, yolo right, You live once, eat the

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Speaker 1: most delicious stuff you can. Obviously, I'm hungry at this

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Speaker 1: point in the show too because I wasn't able to

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Speaker 1: scarf down some stuff. But anyway, look, thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for rolling here with Clay and with me. Clay will

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Speaker 1: be back on Monday. We're going to be coming to

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Speaker 1: chatting with you of course, and talk to you then