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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, sitting alongside my

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Speaker 1: partner in crime, Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here

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Speaker 1: from our studio at lambeau Field and West. About as

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Speaker 1: big a regular season game in week eleven as you

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Speaker 1: might find here in the NFL. The NFC North leading

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers traveling to face the a f C

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Speaker 1: South co leading Indianapolis Colts, although I guess they would

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Speaker 1: technically be in first place because they have the head

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Speaker 1: to head over Tennessee at the moment, so we can

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Speaker 1: call them a division leader as well. Seven and two

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Speaker 1: verses six and three are the records, and hey, let's

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Speaker 1: get right into it. What is it going to take

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Speaker 1: for the Packers to come out victorious here? What are

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Speaker 1: the keys to victory? I didn't even realize this, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Tennessee would be out of the playoffs right now if

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Speaker 1: the playoffs started kids six and three record, Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: keep that in mind. For the Indianapolis Colts, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot for them to play for right now in a

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Speaker 1: very top heavy a f C conference right now. As

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Speaker 1: you mentioned in terms of Not only is it a

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Speaker 1: huge matchup. Obviously it got flex the three Central time,

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Speaker 1: but it's the stakes. And I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys in their conference calls and even the coaches they

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Speaker 1: kind of played this down as far as being a

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Speaker 1: measuring stick game. But I thought there was one comment

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Speaker 1: Bay reporters that really spoke to the you know, the

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Speaker 1: gravity of this thing and how much is on the line,

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Speaker 1: and he said, this is the biggest test to date

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Speaker 1: for our defense. So much of the focus all week

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Speaker 1: long has been on the Packers offense going up against

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Speaker 1: the top rank defense. But you also got to look

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Speaker 1: at it from the Colts perspective. They're seeing Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: who they're guaranteed a match up with it once every

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Speaker 1: four years at a critical juncture in their season. Because

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Speaker 1: this is a Colts team that, while they are six

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Speaker 1: winning streak. At any point. They've lost, they've won, a couple,

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Speaker 1: they've lost. So this is their opportunity, coming off a

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Speaker 1: big moral victory in Nashville, to to put down the

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Speaker 1: Titans a little bit, to to potentially try to leap

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Speaker 1: it was interesting because a lot of questions suddenly were

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens a couple of weeks ago. Now, there's no

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Speaker 1: shame in losing to the Ravens, but the Colts were

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Speaker 1: kind of sloppy and doing it that. You know, Rivers

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Speaker 1: was for for a big game. It was not a

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Speaker 1: good performance for the Indianapolis Colts. So there were all

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Speaker 1: kinds of questions. And then it's like, oh, they're on

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Speaker 1: a short week and they got to play Tennessee on

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Speaker 1: both those teams kind of slug it out for the

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Speaker 1: first half, and then in the second half that Colts

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Speaker 1: the Packers in a big a f C versus NFC showdown,

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Speaker 1: and you know, the marquee matchup, as I wrote about

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Speaker 1: and I think it is the biggest test of the

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Speaker 1: I feel like I say this, so I don't want

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Speaker 1: I say this anytime the Packers are going up against

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Speaker 1: key to the game, quite frankly, it's you just you

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Speaker 1: have to play clean football. You have to avoid the

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Speaker 1: If you get Alan Lazard back in this lineup, that's

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Speaker 1: you know, let's be honest, whether it is the Aaron

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Speaker 1: what the Packers found out against the Buccaneer. And and

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Speaker 1: see they're going to see the swing passes to the flat,

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Speaker 1: edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of

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