Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
Speaker 1: of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network.
Speaker 2: Right you ready, when you're ready.
Speaker 3: Let's get it all. How's it going, everybody?
Speaker 1: Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here
Speaker 1: every day Monday through Friday, New Pacific, three Eastern, Sunday
Speaker 1: three Pacific, six Eastern.
Speaker 3: Well, it's Tuesday here on the show. And you know
Speaker 3: what that means.
Speaker 1: We have lots to talk about and no, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: talk about Oreo today. There's actual real news I want
Speaker 1: to deal with. Any of that that happened yesterday should
Speaker 1: be stricken from the wreckers, stricken from the archives. Yes,
Speaker 1: we have a lot of actual important news involving pro
Speaker 1: wrestling and get into today. The least of which is
Speaker 1: the end of the draft. The draft is done and
Speaker 1: we have x number of guys on Raw, x number
Speaker 1: of guys on SmackDown.
Speaker 3: A large number of.
Speaker 1: Whatever they call them free agents, which you know, originally
Speaker 1: the idea of the free agent was you could go anywhere.
Speaker 1: Now apparently it just means like you haven't been drafted yet,
Speaker 1: so like you get to negotiate whatever. But there is
Speaker 1: one actual free agent who can go anywhere, and that
Speaker 1: is Rock Lesner. But what we're gonna do today instead
Speaker 1: of saying like who got drafted where, who got drafted where,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, I'm just gonna give you the full
Speaker 1: Raw roster and the full SmackDown roster. That'll make it easy.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that as well as the Raw
Speaker 1: report from last night. We have got the lineup for
Speaker 1: NXT which is coming up tonight, which is gonna be
Speaker 1: a very odd show going forward because in fact, they
Speaker 1: called up a ton of people from NXT and so
Speaker 1: presumably that means, you know, since the place has been
Speaker 1: stripped of talent, we're gonna have to get new talent
Speaker 1: coming up from wherever. So we'll tell you about the
Speaker 1: lineup for the show tonight, which will probably be one
Speaker 1: of the last appearances for a lot of different people,
Speaker 1: and then the rest of the news as well. We've
Speaker 1: got Cody talking about Roman Reigns and their new idol belt.
Speaker 1: We have got ratings for SmackDown and Rampage. We have
Speaker 1: got the aew all in at Wembley Stadium. What it
Speaker 1: looks like so far in terms of how many tickets
Speaker 1: have been sold and plenty more so back in the
Speaker 1: moment to kick it off, Wrestling Observer Live in the
Speaker 1: show Brian Alberrez here Wrestling Observer Live mixcept for bb
Speaker 1: also Wrestling Observer dot Com. I did that whole opening segment.
Speaker 1: I had no problem just moving on. But God, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is in the nice way possible, Mike. I just
Speaker 1: see your face and I just get angry. But everything
Speaker 1: that happened yesterday hearing this program, you were dancing and jiving,
Speaker 1: just having the time.
Speaker 2: Of your life.
Speaker 1: But you know what made me happy?
Speaker 3: You know what made me happy? What where are you?
Speaker 3: Why are you on that chin with today?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: You don't make me happy. As I looked at the
Speaker 1: chat here and I've seen that people are starting to
Speaker 1: turn on Oreo. They're starting they're starting to see him
Speaker 1: for what he is, which.
Speaker 2: Is of people by you.
Speaker 1: They see him for what he is, which is a
Speaker 1: kleptomaniac blow hard. Oh oh you don't. You didn't know,
Speaker 1: As ro Dog would say, yeah, my plaque gone. So
Speaker 1: you know what that means. I mentioned to Filthy yesterday.
Speaker 1: So in the last in the last six weeks, I
Speaker 1: have literally had the Black Label Pro Tag Team Championships
Speaker 1: put in my hands after I won, and they were
Speaker 1: taken from me. Now I had my plaque that I
Speaker 1: earned in my hands and now this fat whale has
Speaker 1: taking it away from me and I don't know where
Speaker 1: it's at.
Speaker 2: So you know what that says to me? Brian doesn't
Speaker 2: say a lot about paper O sour Brazilian jiu jitsu
Speaker 2: because you couldn't even take down the whale that you
Speaker 2: gave a big hug too, Right.
Speaker 1: Brother, I got locked out of the room.
Speaker 3: What do you want me to do?
Speaker 1: I got locked out of the I got locked out
Speaker 1: of my own studio by a whale who then grabbed
Speaker 1: my little gimmick, not that one and uh and made
Speaker 1: off with it. So anyway, hey, I'll talk more about
Speaker 1: this later, but let's talk about the news, because got
Speaker 1: some moves though, we've got We've got two, we got
Speaker 1: the draft Ron SmackDown and uh, you know, yesterday during
Speaker 1: the show with Dave and it was like I was
Speaker 1: gonna read who went where, and then he wanted to
Speaker 1: read like what the top names were here and there?
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, it's like, okay, everybody,
Speaker 1: let's keep it simple. Here is the Raw and Smell
Speaker 1: rosters Raw Akir Tazawa, Angel Apollo, Cruz, Braunze, Strohman, Bronson, Reed,
Speaker 1: Chad Gable, Cody, Damian Priest, Dexter Loomis, Dominic Mysterio, Drew McIntyre,
Speaker 1: Eric Finn, Baler, Giovanni, Vinci Gunther, Umberto Ivar, j D. McDonough,
Speaker 1: Jinner Mahal, Johnny Gargano, who in facted get drafted. Someone
Speaker 1: told me that he didn't, but he did, Kevin Owens, Gophy, Kingston, Leude,
Speaker 1: Big Kaiser, Mosey and Mansois Matt Riddle. The miz Odyssey.
Speaker 1: Jones has been called up to the main roster. Otis
Speaker 1: Randy Orton, Ricochet, Riddick Moss, Robert Rude, who is in
Speaker 1: fact still employed our Truth, Sammy Zain Sanga Yeah you
Speaker 1: heard me right, Sanga has been called up to the
Speaker 1: main roster. Seth Rawlins, Shinske Nakamura, Chompa Verer and Xavier woods.
Speaker 2: Least I know Bobby roots out with a neck.
Speaker 3: Where's he's got a hip?
Speaker 2: Intry?
Speaker 1: Hip intry for the women on raw, Alexa Bliss, Becky Lynch, Candice,
Speaker 1: Carmela Chelsea Dana Brook, Emma, Indy Hartwell, got Tona Chance,
Speaker 1: Caden Carter, lib Morgan, Natty, Nicky Cross, Piper Niven, Raquel Rhea,
Speaker 1: Ronda Rousey, Shana Basler, Sony Deville, Teagan, Tristradi, Zaie Lee,
Speaker 1: Zoe Stark, and then Maxine and Valhalla are also on
Speaker 1: raw okay, by the way, before I go to SmackDown,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys knows or not. That's
Speaker 1: a big roster SmackDown. For the men, it's a j
Speaker 1: Angelo Dawkins, Ashanti, the Adonnas, Austin Theory, big Ee, Lashley, Bray, Wyatt, Butch, Cameron, Grimes, Cruise,
Speaker 1: del Toro Edge, Elton, Prince, Grayson Waller, Jay Usso, Jimmy Usso,
Speaker 1: Joaquin Wilde, Carl Anderson, Carrying Cross, Kit Wilson, l A. Knight,
Speaker 1: Luke Gallows, Montes Ford, raymas Sterio, Rick Boogs, Ridge, Holland,
Speaker 1: Roman Reigns, Santos, Escobar, Shankley, remember Him, Seamus Solo, so
Speaker 1: CoA Top Dolla, and apparently Uncle Howdy. And for the women,
Speaker 1: it's Alba fire Aleah Oscar b fab Bailey, Bianca, Charlotte
Speaker 1: Dakota iladn Eo Sky, Lacy Evans, Mia Yim Scarlett Shatzi,
Speaker 1: Temina Zelina, Pat McAfee, and Paul Haymon. And that is
Speaker 1: the SmackDown roster.
Speaker 2: How about the NHT roster.
Speaker 1: Now, we also have these free agents, Baron Corbyn, brock
Speaker 1: Lesnar Cedric, Alexander, Dolph Ziggler, Elias Eric Young, John Cena, Logan,
Speaker 1: Paul Mvp, ali O Moss Shelton, Benjamin von Wagner, and
Speaker 1: Zion Quinn. Okay, now, what's the point of all of this.
Speaker 2: Well, Yon Quinn drafted into free agency.
Speaker 1: Here, here is the story of all of this to me,
Speaker 1: everybody number one. And you know, we've seen how this
Speaker 1: has gone in the past. And if this were solely
Speaker 1: Triple H's show, I would say, well, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: things are going to change, but it's not his show,
Speaker 1: which was made abundantly obvious by the draft because all
Speaker 1: day Monday last week they announced that tag teams could
Speaker 1: be broken up, and then on Thursday, the Thursday before
Speaker 1: the draft, they randomly announced, well, you know, everyone's gonna
Speaker 1: be going as a unit, no one's gonna be broken up.
Speaker 1: And then on Friday. On Friday, on SmackDown, which did
Speaker 1: two point five million viewers. They told you, the viewer
Speaker 1: that this tournament for the World Heavyweight Championship can include
Speaker 1: wrestlers from Raw and SmackDown. Okay, two days later on Raw,
Speaker 1: the storyline is that Roman Reigns would like to wrestle
Speaker 1: for the World Heavyweight title, but he can't because he's
Speaker 1: on SmackDown.
Speaker 3: So, you know, Vince is all in.
Speaker 1: I think that I think I actually think believe it
Speaker 1: or not everybody. I think that what they're saying is
Speaker 1: true in the sense that if you watch the shows,
Speaker 1: you can see that the uh you know, the storylines
Speaker 1: they're doing, the consistency in storylines. I mean, Hunter is
Speaker 1: still largely doing this, but it is exactly what they've said.
Speaker 1: Vince is in there and he's doing whatever he wants,
Speaker 1: and he's making changes, and you can see the changes.
Speaker 3: On these shows.
Speaker 1: Now when I read those rosters, guys, remember the last
Speaker 1: time they had a brand split and you would watch
Speaker 1: these shows, it was like you saw the same people
Speaker 1: in the same matches week after week.
Speaker 3: And you sit.
Speaker 1: There and you watch the show and you think, are
Speaker 1: there eight people signed to each brand? Like they have
Speaker 1: no depth whatsoever? On these two rosters. Well, what they
Speaker 1: have done here and you can see from all of
Speaker 1: the call ups that they have done their intention. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me make this clear. Their intention is that there
Speaker 1: are now two shows, and they are going to do
Speaker 1: a raw show with a raw roster, and they are
Speaker 1: going to do a SmackDown show with a SmackDown roster.
Speaker 1: And they are separate shows, and people are not supposed
Speaker 1: to go back and forth, and they are patting these rosters.
Speaker 1: These are big rosters, dude. There's a lot of people
Speaker 1: available for ron SmackDown. Their intention is that this is strict. Now.
Speaker 1: Of course we've seen this a thousand times, but that's
Speaker 1: their intention. Their intention is Sammy Zay and Kevin Owens
Speaker 1: versus the Bloodline. It's oh okay, it's done. Sammy's and
Speaker 1: Kevin are on one show. The Bloodline is on another show.
Speaker 1: It's finished. Okay, this ray Dominic thing. Their intention is
Speaker 1: for now, it's done.
Speaker 3: It's finished.
Speaker 1: We did WrestleMania, we were doing whatever, it's done, We're
Speaker 1: starting new things. That is their intention here. How long
Speaker 1: they stick to it, I mean, we've seen it a
Speaker 1: million times. Ain't gonna last. But okay, if you watch
Speaker 1: these two shows and you see this draft and you
Speaker 1: see these call ups.
Speaker 3: That's the idea.
Speaker 1: It's two separate, totally separate rosters, totally separate storylines, all
Speaker 1: of that. This is the way it's gonna be from
Speaker 1: here on out.
Speaker 2: And it should be noted that the deciding match for
Speaker 2: that title will be taking place in Saudi Arabia. You know,
Speaker 2: they want that to be a big show. I'm sure
Speaker 2: they want a big match, main event. I don't know
Speaker 2: if they're going to do the tournament all in that
Speaker 2: night or how they're going to go about things, but
Speaker 2: I have a feeling that that's why that's also being
Speaker 2: that caveat was put in place, because they want to
Speaker 2: make sure they have that big match to satisfy everybody
Speaker 2: who's going to be going to that show.
Speaker 3: Back in the moment with the more Observer Live.
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Speaker 2: How much for you to dance with Oreo again?
Speaker 3: It ain't gonna happen. It ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I can't believe you're still pushing this thing after what
Speaker 1: happened yesterday.
Speaker 2: It was a feel good Monday, Brian, I'm trying to continue.
Speaker 1: To Yeah, I felt great when my thing got stolen.
Speaker 1: That was awesome, you know, you know it feels good. Thievery,
Speaker 1: maritime thievery. You know that's called you know, you don't
Speaker 1: Maritime thievery is called, Mike, It's called piracy.
Speaker 3: That's what I was a victim of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need some gunboat diplomacy. I was a victim
Speaker 1: of pirate legit piracy or he is a pirate, he's
Speaker 1: a maritime theb he is a pirate.
Speaker 3: You know they used to do the.
Speaker 1: Pirates when they got him. Huh yeah, look it up
Speaker 1: now today tickets went on sale for all in at
Speaker 1: Wembley Stadium, and uh, you know, you know sometimes I
Speaker 1: say to you anything, I'd like to say I told
Speaker 1: you so, but or whatever.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: But now, after what happened with that whale, I don't
Speaker 1: want to do any more because I don't want to
Speaker 1: be anything like him. But I will say I will
Speaker 1: say that last night last night, Yeah, I'm making a
Speaker 1: change because I realized what a despicable, horrible thing it
Speaker 1: is to be like a horrible It's horrible. I did
Speaker 1: it to be funny, he did it to be legit.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so last night, Dave's what's your what's your prediction?
Speaker 1: And I said I'd say, you know, right around I'd
Speaker 1: say about thirty thousand be my guess, because of course
Speaker 1: they had like, you know, sixty thousand requests or whatever.
Speaker 1: And you know, if I know, if I know one
Speaker 1: thing from running a business over the years, it's like
Speaker 1: a lot of people will say a lot of things
Speaker 1: untill they actually have to pay the money.
Speaker 2: Something. Big difference between pledging and delivering.
Speaker 1: Yes, sixty thousand pre sales. I thought, you know what
Speaker 1: a safe number would be, I would say is I'd
Speaker 1: say first day about about thirty thousand. And uh, it
Speaker 1: looks according to Dave that first day sales for Wembley
Speaker 1: are thirty five thousand. Guarantees aw will have their largest
Speaker 1: ever attendance, largest ever gate before a single match is
Speaker 1: even announced. Sixty thousand pre sale codes were requested and distributed.
Speaker 1: The Clash of the Castle of It in Cardiff, w
Speaker 1: w A hit nearly ninety thousand requested in a similar
Speaker 1: presale system, and of course they did not get ninety thousand.
Speaker 1: What about I think it was some forty five to
Speaker 1: fifty or something like that. But full seating capacity of
Speaker 1: the event is unknown. But that is just first day,
Speaker 1: that's first day presale, So I think the actual on
Speaker 1: sale date is Friday, and I think they're gonna comfortably
Speaker 1: get I would say, at minimum by the time the
Speaker 1: show rolls around. I would say, at minimum, you know,
Speaker 1: fifty fifty five thousand. Are they gonna get ninety? I
Speaker 1: mean they could.
Speaker 2: But does Tony work the number?
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I don't think he will.
Speaker 2: Well with class at the castle. What they claimed was
Speaker 2: let's say, sixty two thousand, two hundred and ninety six.
Speaker 2: That's what at least it shows on the always accurate Wikipedia.
Speaker 2: So if that's what they claimed, who knows what they had.
Speaker 2: But you know, with aw now, I mean you do
Speaker 2: have a long way off. Is you know, fifteen thousand
Speaker 2: too few to ask for? Because at least that puts
Speaker 2: you at fifty, which is a great number. Sounds like
Speaker 2: a great number the people on the outside, it's impressive.
Speaker 2: So I know that thing can see, you know, at
Speaker 2: eighty thousand, ninety thousand, just depending on what configurations they
Speaker 2: decide to have and how much of the field they
Speaker 2: decide to use in the stage and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: But the bottom line is it's their biggest gate. It's
Speaker 2: going to be their biggest attendance, and it's going to
Speaker 2: be a big show. So you know what the quality
Speaker 2: of the show is going to be. We'll find out
Speaker 2: later on down the line. But you know, that was
Speaker 2: a big haul for the open and you got months
Speaker 2: and months to try to draw people to it and
Speaker 2: sell the rest of those seats.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll follow it over the next couple of days
Speaker 1: and then obviously the next big day is Friday for
Speaker 1: the public on sale. Although really, you know, to me,
Speaker 1: I could be wrong about this, but aw, it's not
Speaker 1: like a WWE event where you know, for example, your
Speaker 1: mom has heard of WWE and knows of Hulk Hogan
Speaker 1: and sort of thing, and you know they draw a
Speaker 1: large casual base wherever they go. I mean, for a
Speaker 1: w and Wembley Stadium. My guess is that you know,
Speaker 1: most people that know about the show and are going
Speaker 1: to want to go to the show, they're gonna get
Speaker 1: that pre sale code. They're not gonna say, ah, let
Speaker 1: all the good tickets go, We'll do you know on Friday,
Speaker 1: will just.
Speaker 3: You know, be the public.
Speaker 1: So I would I would bet that, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be like you know, thirty five
Speaker 1: thousand today and then thirty five thousand when the official
Speaker 1: tickets go on sale. I would think that, you know,
Speaker 1: this is the big early surge, and then the idea
Speaker 1: here is well, you know, keep pushing it hard, make
Speaker 1: it seem like it's gonna be this thing you can't miss.
Speaker 1: Start announcing some matches for what you would like to
Speaker 1: do for the show. Obviously we're a long way out.
Speaker 2: Start getting some travel packages going, not only for you know,
Speaker 2: possibly here, but obviously for you know, all over the
Speaker 2: European continent, to try to get people over there and
Speaker 2: make it, you know, worthwhile trip. Trying to bundle things
Speaker 2: together the best can to help people out on money,
Speaker 2: you know, when they are you know again, because look
Speaker 2: how many thirty you know, thirty dollars tickets I'm assuming
Speaker 2: you're going to be available. I'm assuming that's about the
Speaker 2: cheapest price, right twenty five or thirty bucks in all likelihood,
Speaker 2: you know, whatever that is in euros right now. But
Speaker 2: you know, you put things together like that too to
Speaker 2: try to draw people in where again, because it's not
Speaker 2: like people are not hurting for money all over the
Speaker 2: place too. So in all of the months that you
Speaker 2: have leading into this thing. Try to put some things
Speaker 2: together where you can draw people and try to add
Speaker 2: value to go into the show.
Speaker 4: This.
Speaker 1: You know, this person here goes. Maybe some people are
Speaker 1: waiting for matches to be announced. That's not what's happening here. Okay,
Speaker 1: whatever they're doing is whatever they're doing. This is not
Speaker 1: about the matches. If you look at WWE pre sales,
Speaker 1: aw pre sales, people decide whether they want to get
Speaker 1: the show or not has nothing to do with the
Speaker 1: matches on the show. Now, if you're talking about television,
Speaker 1: if you're talking about, oh, the show's on Wednesday, do
Speaker 1: I want to watch it or not? Well, there's an
Speaker 1: NBA game on? Do I want to skip this game
Speaker 1: to w the show? Well, what matches are there? People
Speaker 1: do make a determination for free television based on what
Speaker 1: the matches are as far as like a big event
Speaker 1: is coming to my town. Dude, look at how many
Speaker 1: WrestleMania practically sold out, and yeah, we knew what some matches, well,
Speaker 1: we didn't even know what day they were going to
Speaker 1: be on. They didn't tell us what day these matches
Speaker 1: were going to take place on until like Wednesday, So dude,
Speaker 1: they sold virtually every single solitary ticket before anybody knew
Speaker 1: what match was going to be on what day for
Speaker 1: that show. Okay, you know, yes, there have been a
Speaker 1: couple of times where you announce a match and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden.
Speaker 3: The tickets go crazy. Okay.
Speaker 1: Usually it'll be like, ah, they're coming to Seattle, they're
Speaker 1: running the Climate Bank Arena or whatever the heck it's called.
Speaker 1: Now you know, they got five thousand out and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Johnsena returns to televisions, gonna be
Speaker 1: in Seattle. Then boom, all of a sudden, two thousand
Speaker 1: more tickets go. The only time that I can remember
Speaker 1: recently were an actual match was announced and moved a
Speaker 1: ton of tickets was after Montreal when they announced I
Speaker 1: forget what where they were.
Speaker 3: It might have been Winnipeg or something like that, but.
Speaker 1: They announced, we're doing a Roman reign, Sammy's a championship
Speaker 1: match at this house show, and all of a sudden, kaboom,
Speaker 1: they started selling a ton of tickets. So outside of that,
Speaker 1: I see no, I see nothing of late where things
Speaker 1: are going all right, but hey, now we're gonna start
Speaker 1: announcing matches and people are gonna start buying tickets that's
Speaker 1: not the way people do things for live events nowadays.
Speaker 1: They want to go to the show, or they don't
Speaker 1: want to go to the show, and I.
Speaker 2: Think it also, I mean, it can also depend on
Speaker 2: the event. But like with russell Mania, it sells itself,
Speaker 2: you know, the weekend sells itself, all that sort of stuff,
Speaker 2: even if you're not sure what and when the matches
Speaker 2: are going to be on the show. And I think
Speaker 2: that's going to be the same way here when it
Speaker 2: comes to this show at Wembley, because again, look at
Speaker 2: the I assume it's going to be a complete spectacle.
Speaker 2: You know they're going to go. Look, they got Wembley,
Speaker 2: they got Wembley's, so they're obviously you know, aiming big here.
Speaker 2: So I don't think it matters necessarily what's on this card.
Speaker 2: And I don't think you're gonna be able to advertise
Speaker 2: anything that's gonna be able to move any tickets, you know,
Speaker 2: any volume of tickets, even if he announce a crazy
Speaker 2: match like okay, Jamie Hayter and Julia and Julie's going
Speaker 2: plack to the place that she was born and challenging
Speaker 2: Jamie Hayter used to be. You could build a whole
Speaker 2: storyline around that, and wrestling fans would love it, and
Speaker 2: it makes sense. It's probably not gonna move all Tonto tickets,
Speaker 2: and I have a feeling that most of the other
Speaker 2: matches are going to be obviously known way before that time.
Speaker 2: So again, this is about the spectacle, it's about the event.
Speaker 2: It's far less as far as the matches are going
Speaker 2: to be on that show. I think for Bidden Dora
Speaker 2: is like that too to a certain point. Now you
Speaker 2: can't bastardize that. You can't you know, fall into a
Speaker 2: trap and rely on just the name of the show
Speaker 2: doing anything but for Bidden Doors kind of like that,
Speaker 2: because you know it's gonna be huge matches and it's
Speaker 2: a big spectacle built up on both sides that you
Speaker 2: only get once a year in North America.
Speaker 1: Trying not to look too much at the chat here today,
Speaker 1: Everyone listen. This is a great number. Thirty five thousand
Speaker 1: is a great number for a first day. It's there,
Speaker 1: it's their record, it's their ticket record, it's their gate record.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're trying to say this is a
Speaker 1: bad number, I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 3: It's the first day.
Speaker 1: Also, there's there's plenty more tickets that are gonna be sold.
Speaker 1: I mean, if they sell one more ticket before Wembley one,
Speaker 1: it's still a success. Okay, But they're gonna sell way more.
Speaker 3: Than one, and everyone's gonna go.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be good matches, there's gonna they gonna have
Speaker 1: a good time, just like it's SummerSlam. You know I'm
Speaker 1: saying some of you don't know what I'm saying, but
Speaker 1: that's okay.
Speaker 4: Back in the moment, it's over life.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 1: The show Bright Albarez here, Wrestling Observer Alive except for
Speaker 1: BB also Wrestling Observe dot Com.
Speaker 2: Here's that I looked in the chat. You were right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right, crazy people. How about somebody just explain why
Speaker 2: thirty five thousand is a pre sale where most of
Speaker 2: your most expensive tickets, if not all of them went
Speaker 2: Tell me how that was a negative for aw Tell
Speaker 2: me how that would be a negative for anybody.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I'd rather move on not waste
Speaker 1: my time. But you know, Smack Dad had a great
Speaker 1: number on Friday, two point five million viewers and zero
Speaker 1: point six seven in eighteen to forty nine. So in
Speaker 1: this situation, unlike the last couple of years people did
Speaker 1: care about the draft, so Raw should do a good
Speaker 1: number on Monday as well, And Rampage did two hundred
Speaker 1: ninety eight thousand viewers, down twenty percent because of course,
Speaker 1: you know, it is an excuse to explain the fact
Speaker 1: that Rampage aired at five thirty Eastern.
Speaker 3: Actually it didn't.
Speaker 1: It was advertised at five thirty, but it actually aired
Speaker 1: at six thirty.
Speaker 2: Six thirty yeah, change, yeah, and then three thirty pific.
Speaker 1: They you know, they are you know they are, Mike,
Speaker 1: They're in the mud, in the mud. Well, that's what's
Speaker 1: the case here. They're in the mud.
Speaker 2: They are in the mud. If you look at Turner's
Speaker 2: commitments to the NBA and to the National Hockey League,
Speaker 2: it's just one of those things. They are now going
Speaker 2: to be moved in what next week for the fifth
Speaker 2: consecutive week, and they got to deal with the NHL
Speaker 2: into June. So do you know what goes?
Speaker 1: You know what I've learned as a father two young children,
Speaker 1: it's kind of fun to be in the mud, but
Speaker 1: not to some of these shut ins. Let's talk about Raw,
Speaker 1: or should I talk about what's on the next ten
Speaker 1: tonight and next day is Tiffany on, let's flip that coin.
Speaker 2: What's it say?
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a bracelet, all right. Triple H
Speaker 1: came out for the draft picks, and then Paul came out,
Speaker 1: and this is where Paul explained, Roman wants this World
Speaker 1: Heavyweight championship, but you know he can't wrestle on that show.
Speaker 3: So that was stupid.
Speaker 2: They could not have framed this.
Speaker 1: Seth came out literally, Seth WANs came out as Lingerie,
Speaker 1: literally to just say, well, I guess Roman can't avoid
Speaker 1: me anymore. I was like, yeah, thanks for coming out
Speaker 1: to tell us that.
Speaker 2: So now much like Cody, the guy you know who
Speaker 2: couldn't beat Roman, now we're gonna really value this this
Speaker 2: new belt and totally we got something.
Speaker 1: We got something for you geek, don't worry, we got
Speaker 1: something for all the geeks. It's a different belt, a
Speaker 1: ripoff of an old belt. You know what the belt
Speaker 1: looks like. It might actually be the same belt did
Speaker 1: they gave to Rick Flair after that lawsuit in like
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one when they had to make a new
Speaker 1: big gold belt because they weren't.
Speaker 3: Allowed to use the other one anyway.
Speaker 1: So Solo came out and they agreed to have a
Speaker 1: match later on tonight, which man oh man, we'll.
Speaker 3: Get to that.
Speaker 1: Cody and Brock both showed up and were told not
Speaker 1: to fight, but you know how that went. So then,
Speaker 1: speaking of things, that Vince's back because stuff just gets
Speaker 1: dropped out of the blue.
Speaker 3: Remember when Dakota and.
Speaker 1: Bailey and Io we're all having issues. Yes, they're just
Speaker 1: magically on the same page. Now, Bailey and Dakota beat
Speaker 1: liv and Roquel in a non title match, and they
Speaker 1: worked together great and they got the pin, and now
Speaker 1: they're the number one challengers for these new tag team.
Speaker 2: Titles Magic of the Drafte.
Speaker 1: Of course, I think they're on different brands, so I
Speaker 1: guess they gotta do that title match, probably on SmackDown
Speaker 1: on Friday.
Speaker 2: We'll find out after Backlash. That's when it all takes effect.
Speaker 1: Anyway, And we had Booker and Charmel out to do
Speaker 1: some picks and then Ricochet and wait till tom Here's
Speaker 1: about this Rick Shane Braun versus Alpha Academy. After Rick
Speaker 1: Jane Braun did a job on Friday, they won here
Speaker 1: sent on off Braun's shoulders, got the pin beat Alpha
Speaker 1: Academy and uh, Bron and otis together was fun because
Speaker 1: people like two big dudes running into each other. You
Speaker 1: know these two big dudes, did they ran into each
Speaker 1: other entertaining. No, they didn't slap any meat.
Speaker 3: They just ran into.
Speaker 2: Each other made a meat slapping sound. Though.
Speaker 1: Sean and Adam Pearce came out for picks. But then
Speaker 1: Brock shows up in his cowboy outfit, and uh, he says, well, Texas,
Speaker 1: what's it like to see the only real cowboy.
Speaker 3: In this state?
Speaker 1: Which was a great line, and then Pierce sends out
Speaker 1: all of security and then Brock says, could take more
Speaker 1: dudes than that total babyface line.
Speaker 3: This heel.
Speaker 1: And then Cody comes in through the crowd, and man,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. These fans loved them some Cody,
Speaker 1: and you know who else loves them, some Cody Cody.
Speaker 1: These women, oh my god, these squealing women when he
Speaker 1: showed up, I was like, it's been a long time
Speaker 1: since we had a dude where the women squealed, but man,
Speaker 1: they were just screaming when this guy came in and
Speaker 1: he runs wild and secured, he breaks it up and
Speaker 1: he can't get to Brock, and that was their big
Speaker 1: angle for the show coming up on.
Speaker 2: SA and don't say that too loud about the women.
Speaker 2: I don't want Brandy coming out there.
Speaker 1: And you know, hell, she ain't gonna get mad at me.
Speaker 1: She can get mad at them women if she wants.
Speaker 1: What's not my fault. I'm just reporting once again, here
Speaker 1: we go. I'm just reporting a fact, and I'm the
Speaker 1: bad guy here.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 1: Sammy and Kevin are backstage. Riddle's there, man, Kevin o'
Speaker 1: like this Riddle he's a weird guy.
Speaker 3: But they're all babyfaces.
Speaker 1: So then we have Jimmy versus Riddle, and Sammy and
Speaker 1: Kevin did the Eddy Guerrero spot with a chair, so
Speaker 1: the refijected. Jay Solo's not out there because he's allegedly
Speaker 1: preparing for his match, which we find out he actually
Speaker 1: wasn't doing. So Jimmy's all by himself. All the baby
Speaker 1: faces gang up on this poor guy beat him and
Speaker 1: they're definitely playing up these zusos. They're on Death Store
Speaker 1: with the Tribal Chief and Paul meets with Solo. Jaystorms
Speaker 1: in why weren't You a ringside Solo? Paul says he's
Speaker 1: got assignment from the tribal chief and you know what,
Speaker 1: you need to chill out a little bit. So, uh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna just leave you to your thoughts.
Speaker 2: So disingenuous and slimy, Paul Ammon, but excellent m hm,
Speaker 2: tribal chief loves you. In the background, as he walked away.
Speaker 1: And we had Bishoff and RVD out for picks. According
Speaker 1: to Bischoff, Raw gets Shana blazer. She should sell a
Speaker 1: blazer with her face on it, the Shana blazer. That's
Speaker 1: what she should do to make it. Take advantage of this.
Speaker 1: We had Miss TV with a line of jackets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: MS TV with Nakamura. MS thinks that he has a
Speaker 1: chance to win. The time actually wants to know if
Speaker 1: if Knakamura thinks he's got a chance, knakamercer just said, nah,
Speaker 1: I got no chance.
Speaker 3: Miss says I.
Speaker 1: Would be the champion. I would be a great champion.
Speaker 1: You could be a great number two. We could be
Speaker 1: Miss CA and they do a bunch of stupid stuff
Speaker 1: and Knakamura tells him that his uh, his balls are tiny.
Speaker 3: Yeah you heard that one. Everybody. It's twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: That's where isn't it. Grayson Waller's time to do all
Speaker 2: this no offense to the misms, would have a job
Speaker 2: in my company for the rest of his life. He's
Speaker 2: great doing so many things, but I don't want to
Speaker 2: see him in the ring anymore. And we've moved past
Speaker 2: Miss TV.
Speaker 1: I just watch this and I see knock him Aura
Speaker 1: out there telling that this man's.
Speaker 3: Testicles are.
Speaker 1: Small, and I think, you know I all those guys
Speaker 1: just wish you would go back to you know, TV,
Speaker 1: m A or whatever.
Speaker 2: You books.
Speaker 3: Don't want that, you really don't.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: No, Oma squashed some bloke judgment dated a promo. Are
Speaker 1: people still going to try to pretend that dom isn't
Speaker 1: the best he's ever been? By miles with this persona
Speaker 1: here Cale, Hey, MJF is like jealous of this guy's heat.
Speaker 2: Everybody deserves credit on that, but Dominick mysterio damn sure
Speaker 2: deserves his share. Could he have done it without Rhea
Speaker 2: and all that? No, but you know what, that's not
Speaker 2: what it was about. It was about putting together a
Speaker 2: unit and seeing where it went, and it has gone
Speaker 2: to incredible heights. You talk about women squealing for Cody,
Speaker 2: listen to the booze rain down on Dominic whenever he
Speaker 2: picks up a microphone, it's great.
Speaker 1: So that led to Ray Santos and Zelina versus Dom
Speaker 1: Damien and Rhea. They gave Damien the big win over
Speaker 1: Ray was South of Heaven has set up the Bad
Speaker 1: Bunny Singles match, the biggest matchup Damien Priest's career coming
Speaker 1: up this weekend in Puerto Rico, which is no holds barred.
Speaker 1: I'm sure eight hundred thousand people are going to get
Speaker 1: involved this weekend because I presume that Bad Bunny is
Speaker 1: not losing in Puerto Rico. So we got to find
Speaker 1: some way to really screw this Damien Priest fella. We
Speaker 1: had a Cody promo, he doesn't want to go to
Speaker 1: the back of the line. He must beat Brock. We
Speaker 1: had a Bianca promo where they were kind of teasing
Speaker 1: that EO might split and go babyface here, but maybe
Speaker 1: they dropped it for this show so that you'll be
Speaker 1: surprised when something happens on Friday or Sunday when they
Speaker 1: do the title match.
Speaker 2: Got them peal and.
Speaker 1: Then the main event was seth Rawlins and Solo Socoa.
Speaker 1: And it's three hours into the show and man, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was like people had done all
Speaker 1: their singing, they got out of their system. They figured
Speaker 1: there would be I don't know what it was, but dude,
Speaker 1: this match had no heat. This crowd was dead for
Speaker 1: this match, and they're doing this stuff and Solo hits
Speaker 1: the spinning Solo and Seth kicked out and they're just like, hmm,
Speaker 1: it's like, bro, that's a guy's finish. Then he hits
Speaker 1: it again, starts pummeling on Seth from the mound and
Speaker 1: they're like, man, he got him right now, I hope
Speaker 1: he gets out. And then finally what they knew was
Speaker 1: gonna happen happen. The USO's hit the ring, there's a brawl,
Speaker 1: they send out Kevin and Sammy, and literally these dudes
Speaker 1: hit the ring.
Speaker 3: And they're out of there. They're off the air.
Speaker 1: So there was a big timing issue there at the end,
Speaker 1: and very lame ending of the show, just a it
Speaker 1: was a nothing match, no heat, stupid finish, and uh, that.
Speaker 2: Was weird everybody, That's what they were waiting for. They
Speaker 2: were all looking over waiting for somebody to run out,
Speaker 2: waiting for the USOS to run out, and then it
Speaker 2: actually happened. I am not enjoying this whole LWO thing
Speaker 2: so far. Can we get Santos Escobar and Joaquin Wild
Speaker 2: and Cruise del Toro maybe a win over someone you know. No,
Speaker 2: I'm glad that Zelina Vega. You know, yes, they threw
Speaker 2: it together because oh yeah, she's you know, of Puerto
Speaker 2: Rican descent, and we're gonna be in Puerto Rico. Sure,
Speaker 2: why not. You know, she's a part of the LWO.
Speaker 2: Give her the title shot. Great, can we get something going?
Speaker 2: So it just doesn't feel like to me we're waiting
Speaker 2: on those three guys to turn on Raymisterio at some point.
Speaker 2: I mean, Joaquin Wild and Cruise del Toro are much
Speaker 2: like Giovanni Vinci and uh and uh and now I'm
Speaker 2: gonna brain lock there, but much like Imperium they are.
Speaker 2: They have been so incredibly under used on the main roster,
Speaker 2: and I just don't understand it. You know, they are
Speaker 2: so great at what they do. Give them a chance
Speaker 2: to break out and do something. Then just be guys
Speaker 2: who lose on behalf of Santos Esco bar In Gunther.
Speaker 2: I just it drives me nuts.
Speaker 1: By the way, I also did see that Shingo Taichi
Speaker 1: match for the King of Pro Wrestling title.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which was it was.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a maybe four and a half
Speaker 1: stars or something like that. I had people saying it
Speaker 1: was like one of the best matches I saw a year.
Speaker 1: I would not go that far, but it was. It
Speaker 1: was a good match, and the story was it was
Speaker 1: the uh you basically had to the first person to
Speaker 1: get three wins over the other person was the winner.
Speaker 1: And there were five ways to win. There was pinfall, submission, knockout,
Speaker 1: ref stoppage, which okay, and then and then count out
Speaker 1: even though like a knockout and a ref stoppage, you know,
Speaker 1: but then like I think one of them actually said
Speaker 1: ko and t ko. But anyway, the gimmick was you
Speaker 1: had to win via three different means. Okay, so you know,
Speaker 1: if you pin the guy, then later you try and
Speaker 1: pin him again, They're like, no, no, no, you already got
Speaker 1: that one.
Speaker 3: Now you gotta beat him with something else.
Speaker 1: So you know, it was It was complicated, but it
Speaker 1: was not overly complicated, and to the point where you
Speaker 1: could even watch it with the Japanese commentary and you'd
Speaker 1: still pretty much know what was going on. But I
Speaker 1: thought they worked very hard and it was pretty Uh,
Speaker 1: it's pretty clever the way they did everything there. And
Speaker 1: finally at the end, ref stoppage on Shingo after man tight,
Speaker 1: you just beat the crap out of this guy, put
Speaker 1: him in the dragon sleeper.
Speaker 3: Guy's dead.
Speaker 1: And finally Romou jumped up on the apron and I
Speaker 1: was gonna throw in the towel but couldn't bring himself
Speaker 1: to do it, so the ref was finally like, all right, well,
Speaker 1: you know the guy's been dead for five minutes here,
Speaker 1: so I'll stop the match.
Speaker 3: But excellent match.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't say five.
Speaker 3: Stars, but it was excellent meck in a moment it
Speaker 3: was overlive.
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Speaker 2: Information rush art, Brian.
Speaker 1: Dude, they've had well over a week. It's like either
Speaker 1: do it or don't. I don't need to do a
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Speaker 2: Let's showing.
Speaker 1: The last thing I need is everybody's singing on that
Speaker 1: show anyway, Brian.
Speaker 3: You are no pepper coyote.
Speaker 2: Mike, you know I am not. You're right, I am
Speaker 2: not pepper coyote.
Speaker 3: You're at best salt and pepper coyote.
Speaker 1: You know, we're out of time, everybody, but I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1: Unlike somebody ran in yesterday to try to steal the show.
Speaker 2: With dance moves.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even a very good dancer. Quite frankly, we
Speaker 1: just just sat there.
Speaker 2: And the size of that taiale.
Speaker 3: He combobulated, is what he did.
Speaker 2: Careful you throw that thing around anyway.
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