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Speaker 1: Full Circle is an iHeart women's sports production in partnership

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Speaker 1: with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us

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Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, welcome back to another episode of Full Circle,

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Speaker 2: the Women's Sports round Up.

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Speaker 3: You cannot need it. I'm like Sue Brown here with

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Speaker 3: my girl Mariah Rose.

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Speaker 2: We're breaking down what's happening on the court and the

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Speaker 2: culture and our own personal growth. Because women's sports deserves

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Speaker 2: a full conversation, so let's get into it. We'll start

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Speaker 2: off by Mariah, how are you doing today, this beautiful Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: I am great. How are you, Lexi girl? I'm tired. Guys.

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Speaker 3: I got back from Nashville yesterday.

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Speaker 2: To put that in context, we played Monday, I mean

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Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon and I was back in La Monday morning.

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Speaker 2: So after being out all night in Nashville and the

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Speaker 2: Nashville streets, shout out to Nashville.

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Speaker 3: We had a great time.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it was a great month and some change in Nashville.

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Speaker 2: We survived a snow apocalypse, you know, we experienced some

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Speaker 2: of the good weather, but we had a great time.

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Speaker 2: It was really good very successful season five of AU.

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Speaker 2: If you guys did not know, the winner of AU

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Speaker 2: Pro Basketball season five was Odyssey Simms. So snaps for

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Speaker 2: Odyssey after placing top four in I think for the

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Speaker 2: last three seasons, I think, I want to say, she

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Speaker 2: plays in the top four, so she finally got to win.

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Speaker 2: So it was Odyssey Sims. Anissa Morrow was in second,

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Speaker 2: Rebecca Gardner was in third I think, and Tina Charles

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Speaker 2: finished in fourth place. I finished number fifteen, so not

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Speaker 2: horrible but not amazing. But we were in the top half,

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Speaker 2: so that's a win. And yeah, it was really fun.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if you guys were able to

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Speaker 2: catch any of the games. We'll get into that later

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Speaker 2: about people watching the games because people were not happy

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Speaker 2: with like how it looked on TV or whatever. But

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Speaker 2: it was fun. Mariah was not able to make it.

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Speaker 2: She's too busy, booked and busy, but because of the snow. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so the one time she was able to come, we

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Speaker 2: got snowed in. And yeah, she's just been on the

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Speaker 2: move ever since. So yeah, do you want to talk

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Speaker 2: about unrivaled? They did shout sellout weekends.

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Speaker 1: Shout out Yeah muchigan into but shout out Chelsea.

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Speaker 3: Gray m VP, okay, MVP MVP.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I predicted this at the beginning. Now,

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Speaker 1: I mean I moved out, said she was going to

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Speaker 3: But we were talking about her and how while she

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Speaker 3: was we were talking about the Rose. Yeah, we were

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Speaker 3: talking about the Rose. We definitely didn't say they were

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Speaker 3: going to win. No, And I said, who do we

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Speaker 3: say were?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: We were.

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Speaker 2: We were very high on the Breeze, which they were

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Speaker 2: closed in the semifinals, but yeah, unrivaled.

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Speaker 3: We have.

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Speaker 2: The Missed versus the Phantom and the finals, but the

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Speaker 2: semifinals were the Breeze versus the Mist and the Phantom

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Speaker 2: versus the Vinyl in New York at the Barclays, right,

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Speaker 2: That's where it was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Barclays. How many people they have like eighteen thousand

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Speaker 3: people in there? Yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 1: The tour, the aspect of it, I'm glad they did that.

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Speaker 1: They went to Philly, they went to New York. Both

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Speaker 1: were crazy. That took it to another level for sure,

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Speaker 1: and shows it just shows the demand really, Like, I.

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Speaker 3: Think it's nice to see them.

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Speaker 1: I like the idea of having you guys in cities

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Speaker 1: but it's just nice to see the love and the

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Speaker 1: energy spread in other cities.

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely so shout out to On Arrival for doing

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Speaker 2: it not once, but twice selling out an NBA arena

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Speaker 3: It's been a rough couple weeks for y'all.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I would like to say weeks years, you're right,

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Speaker 2: but more specifically these last like three weeks, it's been

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Speaker 2: so there's still time to come to this side. There's

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Speaker 2: nothing wrong. You can like men's sports and women's sports, guys.

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Speaker 2: I promise it's okay to like both, and we're welcoming

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Speaker 3: Okay, like it's ok at sports.

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Speaker 2: And this is how we're gonna segue into today's fun

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Speaker 2: topic that I came up with yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because let's y'all just to work in some contacts

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Speaker 1: we get on here. I'm thinking we're gonna spend most

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Speaker 3: And I was like, we're gonna talk about that, and

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Speaker 3: then like he's like, yeah, but absolutely else but going

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Speaker 3: on and we just talked. That was quick. That was quick, guys.

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Speaker 3: I like again I told.

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Speaker 2: Job season two of Full Circle, Like the hoop talk

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Speaker 2: is fun, trust me. But like, if y'all want to

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Speaker 2: up on thread sometimes or y'all can actually like watch

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Speaker 2: the games and hear the like analysis in real time.

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Speaker 2: But this is like, for like the fun part about

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Speaker 2: Maria being a content creator in sports. Like, there's so

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Speaker 2: many like nuanced conversations that I think it glossed over.

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Speaker 3: So this is one of them. And this I bringing

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Speaker 2: We had a meeting with our founders of Athletes Unlimited

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Speaker 2: reveal about this conversation I'm not going to reveal much,

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Speaker 2: but it was just basically a conversation about the the

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Speaker 2: landscape of women's basketball and what that is going to

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Speaker 2: look like in the future amidst like these new CBA contracts,

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Speaker 2: you know, this new wave of energy for women's sports

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Speaker 2: and specifically women's basketball, Like what does that mean for

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Speaker 3: So we were just having a conversation.

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Speaker 2: About that, and it just made me think about like

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Speaker 2: unique from what I've experienced. Guys, this is coming from

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Speaker 2: I'm a women's basketball player, right, so I experienced fandom

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Speaker 2: I've decided to categorize them into four four categories. Okay,

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Speaker 2: are you ready and we'll we'll talk about each one.

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Speaker 2: And Maria, and you're a consumer of sports, you're a

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Speaker 2: fan of sports, you report on sports. I'm really interested

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Speaker 2: to see how you react to these four groups.

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Speaker 4: Guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm not being these are not there's no, it's not disrespectful,

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Speaker 2: like there's no like bad fan.

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Speaker 3: Like, there's nothing.

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Speaker 2: These are just pockets of conversations that I kind of

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Speaker 2: peeked my head into and I've noticed it. Right, Okay,

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Speaker 2: so I'm going to list all four and then we'll

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Speaker 2: go one by one. Right. So, the first type of

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Speaker 2: fan are the real hoopers. Okay, the purests. These are

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Speaker 2: my type of people. These are my fans, right. They

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Speaker 2: understand the game, They notice the little things, the nuances

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Speaker 2: purest type. Two, the box score bandits. They don't really

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Speaker 2: up their phones and check the stat sheet and you know,

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Speaker 2: These are the new women's basketball fans, right. They mean

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Speaker 2: but they just say, you know, weird things that you know,

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Speaker 2: but you just want the sport to be just you

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Speaker 2: want the sport to get everything that it deserves. When

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Speaker 2: just started watching basketball two months ago.

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Speaker 1: Go.

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Speaker 2: So we have those and then blast but not least

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Speaker 2: the parasocial likes. So these are the fans that consume

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Speaker 3: Would have never even thought to be one of those.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and you are very important to the ecosystem of sports,

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Speaker 2: Why do you consider yourself that?

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Speaker 3: Okay? So when you first started talking, really I would

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about where I will put myself and

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Speaker 1: I didn't play basketball, I didn't coach basketball whatever. I

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Speaker 3: And there are just some things.

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Speaker 1: When I'm watching a basketball game, I could watch the

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Speaker 3: Like there are just things that they're gonna.

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Speaker 1: I simply don't have the basketball acumen or vocabulary that

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Speaker 1: So so there's there's a world of between there, and

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Speaker 1: I think I think more people need to admit that

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Speaker 3: Like, I watched, but it's like you watch, but you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like yeah, like you could go you could like

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Speaker 2: She played really well, And then you go to the

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Speaker 3: You're like, what they only had six points?

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Speaker 2: But there's so many things that have happen on the

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Speaker 2: And that's why you personally have found so much success

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Speaker 1: back in the day, we saw athletes when we saw

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00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 1: them on TV, like we if we wanted to hear

440
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 1: something personal about athlete, they had to go and do

441
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 1: an interview, like.

442
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 3: Have an article written about them, Like yeah.

443
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 1: Yes, nobody was like doing story time on TikTok like

444
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: that wasn't a thing.

445
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 3: No, I think. I think story times are crazy.

446
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 2: And sometimes sometimes I'll have like a minor inconvenience in

447
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 2: my life and I'll do like an internal story time

448
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 2: and then I'll be like people really set their phones

449
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: up and like talk about something so small that happened

450
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: to them, like I could. I don't think I could

451
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 2: ever do that. But sometimes I like will sit and

452
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 2: replay like what just happened and be like, dang, I

453
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: can really make a TikTok about this, But I'm like, yeah,

454
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: I'm hey, y'all, Hey, y'all, y'all never believe what just

455
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 2: happened to me?

456
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 3: Right, like one, but back to basketball.

457
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think the parasocialites are essential in some cases.

458
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 3: But I also think it gets a little creepy because.

459
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: Y'all are women, right, Like you don't want men running

460
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: up on y'all at your hotel like the Kelsey Plum video. Yeah,

461
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: so it gets it gets weird, But I will say

462
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: it adds a layer in a dynamic to the league

463
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 1: that makes it more fun to watch, Like that's why

464
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: people love stuff like starting Vive or like why that

465
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 1: f one show made the woman viewership go up. By

466
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: eighty percent of formula one because women don't just like,

467
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: we need a little bit more than just what's going on.

468
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 3: The cool I need more. I need to know the

469
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: beat between the teams.

470
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Speaker 1: I need to know she got traded from here to

471
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: there and that's our old coach and they have beef.

472
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 3: I need to know that.

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Speaker 2: And that's like and that you bring up a great point,

474
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 2: because we will. Since you're like, we didn't talk about

475
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: AU and arrival. I think that's even where AU. I

476
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 2: don't want to say struggles, but there is a disconnect

477
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 2: that I've I've seen like watching people talk about it

478
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 2: on threads, and you know, some of the feedback feedback

479
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: we got from our from our founders is like there

480
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: is like a small not small, it's a pretty big

481
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 2: disconnect between the fans and what AU is. And I

482
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 2: think it is, like simply putting, it's like a lack

483
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: of storylines. Because the basketball purists love AU, the hoopets

484
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: love AU because that's all it's about. AU is about

485
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 2: who the athletes. We love AU. AU is like every

486
00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 2: basketball player's dream like situation, Like everyone there is just

487
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 2: so happy. I don't know if y'all have be seeing

488
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 2: on socials that is all genuine, like the post, the tiktoking,

489
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: the pictures, the story, like everything it's it's like one

490
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: thousand percent genuine.

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Speaker 3: And it does make me sad that.

492
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: In this basketball environment, with such a strong culture, with

493
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: such amazing camaraderie and sisterhood, on the outside looking in,

494
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 2: people are like, hey, no, they ain't. They're not enough

495
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 2: drama going on in there. Like what's going on in there?

496
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: Like they're not enough drama in there? But I understand,

497
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: Like I get it. So I mean there there are

498
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: a lot of fans that like they need to latch

499
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: onto a team, They need to latch onto a player.

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00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 3: They need that need. They also need that player to

501
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 3: have a nemesis.

502
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 2: But when your favorite player and they're the nemesis you

503
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 2: invented in your brain, are now teammates in week two,

504
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,239
Speaker 2: what do you do with that?

505
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Speaker 3: As a fan?

506
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: Now you got to cheer for the nemesis that you

507
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 2: just created. Everything in your brain has now exploded.

508
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 3: So I think that.

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Speaker 1: That's tea though, because you get the the caitlinon Angel

510
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: was everybody's favorite. Their nemessses form a point in time

511
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: there and when they were together also weakened.

512
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 3: People ate it up like they were like, I'm.

513
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: Very interested to see and maybe that's because the positions

514
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: they play, like it actually is interesting, like the idea

515
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: of them too playing on the same team together, but.

516
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: They actually think like benefit they actually would benefit being teammates.

517
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah that would actually really work. But I

518
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: think people really like, we're interested to see you know that,

519
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: Like every video went viral of like their warm up

520
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: and the them shooting from half core.

521
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 3: And everything went viral. So I think that there is

522
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 3: a level where that is still interesting. And also it's

523
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: like knowing your was just.

524
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: For one game, yeah, and I was just like the

525
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: thing with AU was just like again, you have just

526
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 2: the different levels of fans, like how do we how

527
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: do we like make an impact on every type of

528
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: fan that exists, Like the we got the purest We

529
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: got them a lot because they just like to watch

530
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: good basketball, and you get to see a lot of

531
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: good basketball in so many different types of ways in

532
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: such a short period of time because.

533
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: The teams change all the time.

534
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: If you genuinely want to know how different players exist

535
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: with each other on the court, like you would love

536
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: AU because you see that every week a different group

537
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: of players playing together and trying to win.

538
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: But again, you don't have like the team to be

539
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 3: for the for the season. You don't have like the player.

540
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you still do like I think

541
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: the best storyline of this season was the fact that

542
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: Odyssey is always finished in the top four, and she's

543
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,479
Speaker 2: number one, but there's so many of us like it

544
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: is hard to even just like hyper focus and and

545
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: that is another thing that we love about AU. It's

546
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 2: just not hyper focused on one player, no matter how

547
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: amazing they're doing, how many games they're winning. We make

548
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: a concerted effort to highlight as many players as possible.

549
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 2: But on the flip side, then you just get to

550
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 2: learn a little bit about everybody. You don't really get

551
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: to know anybody for real. So that's now like the

552
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: dilemma we're facing at AU, and not saying that it's

553
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 2: like a good or bad thing, but it's just the reality,

554
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: like women's sports is in a completely different place than

555
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: it was when AU first started, completely different place. So

556
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: how do we capture all these different types of fans

557
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: that love women's basketball, that love these players and love

558
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: seeing them playing in different environments? How do we capitalize

559
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 2: and resonate with all the fans and not just some

560
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,719
Speaker 2: of them, you know. So that's that's actually what like

561
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: created this this fandom talk.

562
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 3: But we have one more.

563
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: Type of fan that we didn't hit on yet, and

564
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: that's the growth experts. And I think the best way

565
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: to describe them is they and sometimes they're like they

566
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: teeter off of a fan and critic. I feel like

567
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: they don't know what side to be on because they

568
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: are so critical of players in the league and the

569
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: system because they want it. They wanted to be so

570
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: amazing for the players. So it's like they teeter between

571
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 2: being a super fan and a super critic.

572
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 3: But I think they mean well, most of them.

573
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: I want to say, the ones that I would say

574
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: lean to fans more, they do mean well. So I

575
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: think that they try to bring things in conversations and

576
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: dialogues to the women's game that sometimes can be harmful,

577
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: like constant like comparison, Like constant comparisons. I feel like

578
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: in the right context, comparisons are good, but I feel

579
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: like women's basketball like people are just constantly being compared

580
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: to other players are always being compared to other players,

581
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: and the most frustrating ones are when they get compared

582
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: to players that don't even play the same position as them,

583
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: And I'm like, what, you cannot compare a center to

584
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: a guard. You cannot you cann compare a forward to

585
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: a point guard. It's just if we're gonna do the

586
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: comparison game, you gotta do it correctly. And then I

587
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: just seen a lot of them come out the woodworks

588
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: with the CBA stuff, Like a lot of people feel

589
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: like they know what's best for us, or they know

590
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: what's best for the league, whatever side they choose to

591
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: be on. They're still having conversation about women's basketball in

592
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: the WNBA, So I can appreciate that. But a lot

593
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: of them are also new women's basketball fans, new WNBA fans,

594
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: So again, like education is key, Like I do appreciate,

595
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 2: like we said, there's a space for all of these fans,

596
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: Like they're all so appreciated. But if you're gonna try

597
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: and come on here and tell players how they should play,

598
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: what they should do better, what the league needs to

599
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: do better, da da DA.

600
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: Make sure you're educated.

601
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 2: And make sure you know what you're talking about, because

602
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: then it becomes negative and it becomes harmful and you

603
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: start bringing harmful conversations.

604
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think people forget and ironic right message,

605
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: probably wronged messenger coming from me.

606
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: But some people need to learn.

607
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 1: The art of speaking in their group chat rather than

608
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: on social media. Because you can love women's basketball and

609
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: you can think whatever you want to think.

610
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: You can you aren't tited to whatever opinion you want

611
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: to say.

612
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: But once you put that on social media, or once

613
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,239
Speaker 1: you are commenting it in a player's comments section and

614
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: directing it at them, especially in a comment section or

615
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: at a player, or making a video about a player

616
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: or somebody specifically, you're directing your opinion on to somebody

617
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: else in public. That's when your opinion is subject to criticism.

618
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: Like you can be new to something like watching the

619
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: WNBA or watching women's sports in general, then WSL whatever.

620
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: But once you start telling people who are actually living

621
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: that life, the athletes, what they deserve to be paid

622
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: and what they should be saying about this, and what

623
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: they who's better than this person?

624
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 4: Who's then it's kind of like, was that was that necessary?

625
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: Because did you do the right research before you spoke

626
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: on that topic?

627
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: Are you making it obvious?

628
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: Hey I don't watch much, but da da da da

629
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: da da da, because once you say that.

630
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: Then I'm scrolling once you say that.

631
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just don't think everything has to be

632
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: said in public. You can watch and you can think

633
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: things if you don't if people think mean thoughts all

634
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: the time, text it in your.

635
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: Group, chat to your write it in your notes, writes,

636
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: or make up you know what?

637
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: More people, You know what y'all need to start doing.

638
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: Make videos of say you're opineing out loud on a

639
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: video and then rewatch it and listen and be like,

640
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: dang if I heard someone say that out loud, but

641
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: I throw tomatoes at them, or you know, everyone's doing

642
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: the thumbs down now in real life, but I get

643
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: that if I said this publicly and again, like, what

644
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: what is your intention?

645
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 4: Like?

646
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: Do you really care about women's basketball growing? Do you

647
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: really care about this player improving?

648
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 3: You really care? You want them to be better?

649
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: Are you just trying to be mean spirited? Are you

650
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: trying to incite a conversation under a player's post or

651
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: or under an interview or something to start a negative

652
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: conversation because of your own personal weird feelings towards this player, Like,

653
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: really start thinking about like that goes.

654
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: Across the board.

655
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: When you're putting something out publicly, like Maria said, like

656
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: you're opening it up for criticism and you're opening it

657
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: up for dialogue, whether you intended it to be that

658
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: or not. That's what I was when you put some

659
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: them out publicly. So again, like I appreciate all of

660
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: these types of fans. I really do. Like the league

661
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,479
Speaker 2: wouldn't be where it is without the fans. And I

662
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: want to tie all this up with a pretty bow

663
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: and saying how much we'd love the.

664
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: Fans and we appreciate the fans.

665
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: We also appreciate how many of youall are standing in

666
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: ten toes down behind us with these negotiations. It's been very,

667
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 2: very nice to see.

668
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was my little fandom feel.

669
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: If you fell left out, though, if you are a

670
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: different type of fan than the four we listed, I

671
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 2: would love please comment, Please comment or send me a

672
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: thread or something or samuraize or something about if you

673
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: feel like you don't fall within that type of fandom,

674
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: or if you're a mix of the two, you don't

675
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: have to be just one. I will say that you

676
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: do not have to be just one type of fan.

677
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 3: I'm a pure parasocial box scorer, bandit and hold.

678
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: I would put myself in a I would put myself honestly,

679
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: and I just went in on the growth experts. I

680
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: would put myself in that too, because I do want

681
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: so much better for the leagues. I'd be like, I'm

682
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: a pure a growth expert basketball purist because I do

683
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: want what's best for the league and for all of us.

684
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: And I do find myself being very critical about how

685
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: the league has ran and these how these negotiations are going.

686
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 2: But it does come from a good place, you know.

687
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: So like I said, these are I don't think any

688
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: of these are negative, but there can be negative people

689
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: in these fandoms, right, Like it's.

690
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 3: The people right, the group praying is good.

691
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: Like just think of it as like this big van diagram,

692
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: Like where do you guys intersect that. I would love

693
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: to know what y'all think about yourselves. As far as

694
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: a fan, Yeah, I'm just a regular fan. Now you

695
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: are you fall in one of these or other? And

696
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: if there's another, go ahead and write it in and

697
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: send it to us, because I would actually love to

698
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 2: see what other fans exist out there, because these are

699
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: just the four types.

700
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 3: That really stick out to me being in the w specifically.

701
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: So yeah, one last basketball thing before we get flowers

702
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 2: is the women's college conference tournaments are about to begin.

703
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: Happy March March is here, everybody. We made it. We

704
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: made it. Duke won the ACC regular championship. Shout out

705
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 3: to Duke.

706
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, number one seed in their tournament. UCLA

707
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: did finish undefeated in the Big Ten, so they have

708
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: now taken the crown of the most recent team to

709
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: finish the conference undefeated, so shout out to UCLA.

710
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 3: SEC.

711
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 2: I want to say South Carolina won the regular season,

712
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 2: I'm honestly not even sure because they've been they didn't

713
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: eating each other up.

714
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: They did, They've been beating each other up for weeks.

715
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: Now. That is a tournament I'm most excited about is

716
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 2: the SEC tournament and who else Big twelve TCU back

717
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: to back regular season champs, so shout out to them,

718
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: and obviously Yukon Big East surprise surprise.

719
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 3: Running through that conference yet again.

720
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: So my picks for tournament champions will be for Power five, Yukon, Duke,

721
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: m am, I gonna go again.

722
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 3: Are you going to pick anyone who wasn't who didn't

723
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: finish first.

724
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: That the same am I am I going to go

725
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: against South Carolina right now and be problematic if I

726
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 2: want to be problematic, that's a that's.

727
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: A hard level. That's a hard that's a hard fan

728
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: base to go against. Guys. Girl, good love with that.

729
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: Not me, South Carolina and I'm an sey.

730
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: Let me look at the Let me look at the bracket.

731
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 3: That's going to determine what I think. Okay, let's see

732
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: the bracket. Who they play, who's on their side?

733
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: Oh honey, Oh yeah, I might have to go I

734
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: might have to go South Carolina.

735
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: Not oh honey, Well tell us what you're seeing?

736
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: Well, just their side of the bracket is Actually I

737
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know. I think it's going to

738
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 2: be South Carolina in Texas in the championship. And I'm

739
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: only picking South Carolina because of the location of the tournament. Which,

740
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: speaking of that, I feel like these these conferences have

741
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: gotten to the point where they are so spread out

742
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 2: that they should consider moving the conference tournaments every year

743
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: to different cities, because I don't understand how you can

744
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: now justify having the SEC tournament and what is it

745
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: South Carolina? It's in South Carolina or North Carolina wherever

746
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: it is when you have when your second best team

747
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: is in Texas, Like, I just they have to figure

748
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: that out because South Carolina getting a home tournament every

749
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: year is kind of ridiculous considering how spread out everybody is.

750
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: Same with the ACC, it's not it's not the Atlantic

751
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 2: Coast no more, it's not, so put it somewhere else

752
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: that will level out the tournament vibes. Like, I think

753
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: it is ridiculously unfair that South Carolina gets to play.

754
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 3: Every year in South Carolina.

755
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: But that is a shout out to Don Staley for

756
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: building that fan base and building that.

757
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 3: Program, so they deserve it. But because of how.

758
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: The construction of the conferences are now, like you have

759
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 2: to be able to give fans chances to come support

760
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 2: their teams without like spending thousands of dollars right when

761
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: your team could potentially just be playing one day, but

762
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 2: you gotta fly from here.

763
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: They're families and sound like I mean they're fans too,

764
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, like yeah, yeah, or

765
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: just stay home.

766
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: You're right, So I feel like that should come into play. Obviously,

767
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: these schools and conferences make more than enough money for

768
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: that to happen.

769
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 3: So I would I would love I would love for

770
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 3: that to be a thing. Big ten. I pick you,

771
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 3: I don't. I'm not picking u c LA, though I

772
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: might go. I might go Misschigan or Iowa. I don't know.

773
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: I'm really excited about these conference tournaments though. And if

774
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 2: anybody has been watching the last few weeks of women's

775
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 2: college basketball, it's been very spicy.

776
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 3: It's been very fun to watch.

777
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: So these conference tournaments are going to be really really fun.

778
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: You're not how are your Georgia Bulldogs doing? Mariah?

779
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: Okay, So I here's the thing.

780
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 3: Here's here's the thing about.

781
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: Basketball and me in March, all right, because not just

782
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: with the dream on playing so so when me and

783
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: basketball in March that they they're like the happiest thing

784
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: basketball wise.

785
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 3: We've got in this state.

786
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 4: Okay, I will say, I will say basketball wise.

787
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 3: Not bad, but we're not We're not gonna want to

788
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 3: champione it.

789
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: And the thing is going to Georgia. That is the

790
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: standard for me because of football. So like, if I

791
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: don't think I'm so used to like planning what I'm

792
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: gonna wear to the national championship, you know what I'm

793
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: saying That Like when it's not national championship.

794
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, we're not like contenders for real.

795
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, I have one more question about the

796
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: Atlanta fandom.

797
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 3: Will you be in attendance to Magic City Monday.

798
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: I I personally think Madic City Monday is hilarious.

799
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: And I think that your kids amazing.

800
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: If you're upset about the kids, the kids, the kids,

801
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: don't bring your kids.

802
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 3: Like it is that bring the kids.

803
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 2: Sell your If you got a season ticket, sell that,

804
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: sell it. I purchased the hoodie, pre ordered it. I

805
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 2: got one.

806
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 3: I sure did you see how? You see? How? Like?

807
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: That's what I mean by basketball and Georgia in March.

808
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 1: This is the happiest thing we got going on Mad

809
00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: City City.

810
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: If you guys do not know what we're talking about.

811
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 2: The Atlanta Hawks announced a themed night honoring the cultural

812
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 2: landscape of Magic City in Atlanta. And I'll let you

813
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 2: guys google what Magic City is. But it's a it

814
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: is quite a magical place with great wings. And they

815
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: get a whole night in Atlanta dedicated to what they

816
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: mean to the community, and.

817
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 3: They mean a lot.

818
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: Ask anybody in Atlanta, Like everybody knows what Magic City is.

819
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know what. I just need to

820
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: know whose idea was. That's all I knew.

821
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: Okay, I will say I will say, first of all

822
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: in the basketball conversation, our men are actually pretty decent.

823
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: I want to put that out there that I shout out.

824
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: Yeah when I hear talk about that, so that I

825
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: do want to put out there our men are actually

826
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: really decent.

827
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 3: But like good that they have a good record. But

828
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 3: back to BA City Monday. Yeah, I think it's funny.

829
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,959
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I think people just want to be mad.

830
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

831
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: What are they gonna I just want to I wish

832
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: I could go.

833
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: Are they gonna have Yeah? I need to have boots

834
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 3: on the ground journalism like you have to you must.

835
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 3: I have to see what, like what is it? What

836
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: are they gonna do?

837
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: Are they going to have some of the employees and

838
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 2: attendance that they're going to honor mister Magic City, like.

839
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: Freaking happens? First of all, sir, that's please please Kim.

840
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: Are people like this is what you're this is what

841
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: you chose to be outraged about, mister mister sir, the

842
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: people of Atlanta just want something to be.

843
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: A excited about.

844
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 2: God forbid, they need to just bring in one of

845
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 2: the happiest places in the city.

846
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 3: But I am.

847
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 1: So Atlanta down. I will say back to the NCAA tournament.

848
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: I make brackets where both Georgia men's and Georgia women's

849
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: win every year, and I do think now that we

850
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: are not.

851
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 3: In the depths like I. When I went to Georgia,

852
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 3: we were in the depths. Bro like. I like that that.

853
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards was there though, right, yes, but they were

854
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 2: still really bad.

855
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: We weren't good like I. Actually, I think COVID hit.

856
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: COVID hit one year when we could have gone to

857
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: the tournament, and then my aunt was there. I will

858
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: go when he would play, and I would be like,

859
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: I can't believe his talents are here.

860
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 3: We weren't good.

861
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: But that was when Tom Crean was our coach and

862
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: they did not like him. I worked for basketball team

863
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: at the time, actually, so that the basketball program was

864
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,479
Speaker 1: quite depressing. But I will say I was a little

865
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: negative earlier in my comparison to football.

866
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 3: I I do make brackets every year where both the

867
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: men and the women win, period.

868
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: But I make wackets, right, that's on your throw away,

869
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: that's what are your throw away brackets.

870
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 3: That's your I'm a.

871
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: Proud of love bracket, guys, I must. I'm gonna do

872
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 2: the same thing at my Duke. Winning is always very

873
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: likely for men and women. That's very likely.

874
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: Like that, it's not like that, Like and I get

875
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 1: I do get jealous of schools, Like I feel bad

876
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: because any like Georgia basketball people are watching. I feel

877
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: bad because I used to work for those teams. But

878
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 1: like schools like Alabama, like Doke won the a SEC

879
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: Tournament in football and and and the women wanted.

880
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 3: Basketball, So like schools that have both, I'm really jealous

881
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 3: of that, Like I really wish we had that.

882
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say the football culture Duke is still

883
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 2: very like minimal compared to basketball, like I do as

884
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 2: like because they were pretty decent when I was there too,

885
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: and it was just like everyone was just waiting for

886
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 2: basketball season to start.

887
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 3: Where people care about basketball like that because it's nice.

888
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: Like the camping out was nuts, so like where the

889
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 2: people if you guys don't know.

890
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 3: For Duke, you and see game tickets.

891
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: The students set up tents in Kville and they sleep

892
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 2: in them and they stay in them, and there's all

893
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: these rules and everything for like how to get because

894
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 2: the student section at Duke at Cameron's first come, first serve.

895
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 2: You don't have like a signed seating. It's like bleachers

896
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: where the camera crazies are like if you are first

897
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: in line, you get to be in the front, like

898
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: and if you're last, you might not get inside. And

899
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: then the other side is worthy more assigned seating, and

900
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 2: then up top is a sign seating. So for the

901
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: Duke U and C game, they all camp out, like

902
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 2: there's like a pre camp out time and then there's

903
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 2: like a big camp out time.

904
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 3: And it's hilarious because.

905
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: Our practice facility and the place where we do our

906
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 2: academic center, it's all connected.

907
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 3: So every day we walk through kV.

908
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 2: So every day when we walk to practice, every day

909
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: we walk to study hall, every day we walk into

910
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: the games, we gotta walk right through all these damn

911
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: tents and all these students in the tent. So we

912
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 2: see it every day and it's insanity. It's cold, Like

913
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: I think one of the rules is like one person

914
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 2: always has to be in the tent at all times,

915
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: Like you can't just pitch your tent and leave it

916
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: and check on it, like someone always has to be

917
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: in there, so it's it's crazy, and I remember, yeah, right,

918
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 2: they do not they do not play around.

919
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 3: When it comes to those tickets.

920
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, go and like go to college basketball atmospheres.

921
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 3: I've only been to Michigan. No, it's nuts.

922
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: And I saw I sat with the camera crazies once

923
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: one time, and that was enough for me because they

924
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: are they are out of their minds and it was

925
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: very fun and we all went and sat in there

926
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: and it wasn't even like a big crazy game, but

927
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: we were in there. We were in the trenches with them,

928
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 2: and I was like, Okay, I experienced it. I don't

929
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 2: never have to sit in here ever again. It was sweaty,

930
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: everyone yelling to.

931
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: Go to every single women's and men's basketball game at

932
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: Georgia that was home to do my little work, and

933
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: we just did.

934
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 3: Not have that. And then I have been.

935
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 1: To March Madness obviously and covered it like a bunch

936
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: of times. Men's and women's Women's has a way better

937
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: atmosphere in my band because the men's think, I think

938
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 1: they price out the fans low key in a way,

939
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: and like it's not like that, like it's not like

940
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: the people who actually care about the school. It's like

941
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: me and like people who are covering it and people

942
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: will take it, you know, and people who live in

943
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: that city that aren't that attached.

944
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 3: They just want to see.

945
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: So I want to see, Like I want to go

946
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: to Duke MC, I want to go to UNC and C.

947
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 3: I want to go to Crazy like I think you.

948
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: And then it's funny like because the Duke U and

949
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: C games are always so high, but like I would

950
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: still like the UNC arena is just simply bigger, so

951
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 2: they just can fit more people in there. But the

952
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: atmospheres are so different, and I'm I'm picking Duke atmosphere

953
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 2: every time. Like you go to a UNC game and

954
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, you have your like student section, but like.

955
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 3: Half of the Duke attendants are students.

956
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: At the bigger arenas, it's like ten percent of the

957
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: attendants is like the student section. So like you have

958
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: a student section, then you have everybody else that's just

959
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 2: sitting and being normal, right, but like it's a lot

960
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 2: of them, so it seems loud. It sounds loud, but

961
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: they are periods, Like I went to a UNC game,

962
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 2: they are periods of like dead silence in there because

963
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: it's not full full. It is like you have your

964
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 2: student session was like whoa, it's like the little the

965
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: little mumbling that you can hear, like the accident. But

966
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: in Cameron, Oh, it's it's never quiet unless we're shooting

967
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 2: free throw. But other than that, like it's ridiculous. So

968
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 2: if you I'm biased, obviously, but if you want to

969
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: experience like some real basketball like insanity, you gotta go

970
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: to Cameron.

971
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: You must. I gotta be stuck on a live show

972
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 3: there at in Durham.

973
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 2: That is a great question, and we will ask Grace,

974
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: our producers and our iHeart people. Sounds like it would

975
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: eat to me, that would be very fun. Actually, I'm

976
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: gonna I'm actually going on the radio show to talk

977
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: about the tournament on Friday, and I'll drop a little

978
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: a little some in there.

979
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 3: Obviously, I'll I'll plug our podcast.

980
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 2: But I'll be like, maybe we can pull up to

981
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: Durham Monday and.

982
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 3: Then maybe then maybe like you can pull up to

983
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 3: Athens one day.

984
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, maybe they got all

985
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: these ideas. Okay, before we go, let's give flowers.

986
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 3: I have my flowers.

987
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: This is kind of this is a little unrelated to

988
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 2: women's sports, but it's relatable to women, so you can

989
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: go first, because mine's kind of long, so you can

990
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:23,479
Speaker 2: go first.

991
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 3: For your flowers.

992
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: I want to give my flowers to the women of

993
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: Magic City.

994
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: No, I'm kidding, thank you for.

995
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 2: Your service that they are they are because I've tried

996
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: it athletes in a class and it is not easy.

997
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 2: No I I this is a little corny, but I

998
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 2: want to give my flowers to the women of the

999
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 2: WBA because you are standing on business like you are.

1000
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 2: I think that it's it's hard to stand on principle

1001
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: right now, especially considering the attention economy, and like the

1002
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 2: fact that the conversation is kind of shifted because you know,

1003
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 2: y'all are having this fight and like it is difficult,

1004
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: and they know it's difficult, like that we're not talking

1005
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 2: free agency and about all those other things. But they

1006
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 2: are also setting the you know, little girls playing basketball,

1007
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 2: the women that are playing in college right now that

1008
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 2: we're talking about in the tournament, y'are setting them up

1009
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: for their futures as well, and so it's.

1010
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 3: Like bigger than just right now.

1011
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: And so I think that that's really impressive, and I

1012
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: hope that there will be a season but.

1013
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 3: If there is not, I will still stand intails behind y'all.

1014
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 3: Thanks Brian, we appreciate that.

1015
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: My flowers go to Sophia Bush. If you guys did

1016
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: not see her viral clip with her best friend at

1017
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 2: the well now they call them the NAACP Awards.

1018
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that's where they were.

1019
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: Oh, and she went on her she went on her

1020
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 2: little one two about the being a white woman in

1021
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: these black spaces and consuming black culture and being entertained

1022
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: by black culture and also having the responsibility to be

1023
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 2: allies and stand up for those people that they love

1024
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 2: so much. So shout out to Sophia Bush. And I'm

1025
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: only saying that, guys, because.

1026
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 3: I met Sophia.

1027
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: Bush last year in Austin at south By Southwest. And

1028
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: when I tell you she is not just saying that,

1029
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: I experienced her doing that in real time.

1030
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 3: Right.

1031
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: So we were at a party at south By Southwest.

1032
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: Mind you, she has a podcast I'm sure with iHeart

1033
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 2: as well. We were at an iHeart event and you know,

1034
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 2: they recognized some of the podcast people on the space,

1035
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: so like, you know, I stood up and I spoke

1036
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: and it was like really nice whatever, and everyone was

1037
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 2: just kind of hanging out after the event, and I

1038
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: was there with my best friend Lindsey, and she was

1039
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: there with her best friend Nia who was in the

1040
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,439
Speaker 2: video with who she was.

1041
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 3: She nas plus one, and me.

1042
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 2: We were all just sitting there chatting, like just most

1043
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 2: amazing intelligent women that I've ever you know, sat down

1044
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: and talked with. Sofia gets up for a second and

1045
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 2: it's now it's just the three of us. I think

1046
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 2: we're I'm pretty sure we're the only three black girls

1047
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 2: in this space at this moment. A waitress comes up

1048
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: to us and asked us to leave. She asked us

1049
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: to leave the event, and we're like, they're like, well,

1050
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 2: she just like spoke, and mind you, there's like an

1051
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 2: open bar still open.

1052
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 3: There's like another bar like down in this area.

1053
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 2: Like there's still at least like forty fifty people still

1054
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: like having having a time. So it's just the three

1055
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 2: of us sitting and she comes up to us and

1056
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 2: we're like, we're about to order another drink and she's like, well, actually,

1057
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 2: like you guys probably need to leave, you know, we're

1058
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 2: closing up.

1059
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 3: And we look around and we're like.

1060
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 2: Closing up, what like nobody looks like they're leaving, people

1061
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 2: are still ordering drinks and whatever.

1062
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 3: So the lady like is just like really, she's just

1063
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 3: really rude. And for me, like I.

1064
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: I was just kind of like, okay, I've been in

1065
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 2: I've been in situations like this before, and I've just

1066
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 2: learned that sometimes you just got to pick your battles.

1067
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: Like I wasn't getting up though, so I was like,

1068
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 2: I'm not leaving, so you can go handle that with

1069
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 2: your superior. My friend is just like sitting there like

1070
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm just the plus one, and Nia is like visibly

1071
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: upset about this. So Sophia comes back and she looks

1072
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 2: at Nia and she goes, who I got to beat up?

1073
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 3: And I said that lady over there she tried to

1074
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 3: kick us out the party.

1075
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: And the way Sophia read that woman for Phil's in

1076
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 2: the most respectful way, like it was so respectful, but

1077
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 2: like it would it made the I think the wagers

1078
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 2: like cried and like went home, like because she was

1079
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 2: embarrassed because like why are you She basically just like

1080
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 2: why are you singling out these women? You didn't ask

1081
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: anybody else to leave, and you come back and double

1082
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: down on it, like are you, like are you okay?

1083
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 2: Like we are in a space right now where everybody

1084
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: is having a good time and you you're being weird basically.

1085
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 2: So I want to give my flowers to Sofia because

1086
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 2: you know she you know, so people talk a lot

1087
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 2: and don't do a lot, and she does both. And

1088
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 2: I want to give her flowers because when I saw

1089
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 2: her come up on my feet talking her shit on

1090
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: the carpet, I said, she means exactly what she's saying.

1091
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 3: She lives at like I was there. I saw it

1092
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 3: with my own eyes.

1093
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 2: So I want to give my flowers to her because

1094
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 2: I was I was like amazed. I was like, yo,

1095
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Speaker 2: I've never seen that before. So yeah, I couldn't wait.

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Speaker 2: I was waiting for the time to share that story

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Speaker 2: because I've been holding on to it for so long,

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Speaker 2: and now I was very time to share it.

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Speaker 3: So flowers to Sophia Bush. Sophia Flowers of the WNBA

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Speaker 3: stand on business.

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Speaker 2: Guys, We have a meeting today, hopefully again I have

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Speaker 2: something more positive to report back next week, So stay

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Speaker 2: tuned on Rival Championship is this week. Tune into the

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Speaker 2: college women's conference tournaments. It's going to be lit and

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Speaker 2: as you know, y'all know where to find us, subscribe,

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Speaker 2: like and share. We love y'all all the fans. We

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Speaker 2: super love y'all, and we will see y'all next week.

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Speaker 3: Bye. Thanks for listening to Full Circle.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back next week with more basketball for the

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Speaker 1: Girls by the girls.

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Speaker 1: hosted by Lexie Brown and Mariah Rose. Our executive producer

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Speaker 1: is Jesse Katz. Our supervising producer is Grace Fused. Our

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