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Speaker 1: an out podcast. Back at it again on a beautiful Friday.

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Speaker 1: It's almost nine o'clock at night. Don't worry burning the

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Speaker 1: midnight o ill just grinding, grinding for you. Actually, that

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Speaker 1: Thursday night game went a little longer, from twenty nine

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Speaker 1: other things around the NFL. I think a uh Aidan Hutchinson,

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Speaker 1: course Middlecoff mailback at John Middlecoff is the Instagram slide

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Speaker 1: up into the d m S. My overall take with

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Speaker 1: little sense. You know, we see this in college football,

428
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Speaker 1: and we'll get into Mario and Marcus Freeman and some

429
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Speaker 1: things I saw in their press conferences and a little bit.

430
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: But it's it's hard with college football when a coach

431
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: leaves after a championship game because of the recruiting calendar,

432
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: everything a little off right. So like right now Oregon

433
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: doesn't have a coach while all these recruits are committing

434
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: siding days in like a week that first signing day.

435
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: It's just kind of it's not ideal. But in the pros,

436
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: if you're going after a college coach, the Raiders last

437
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: game is January nine. So even if Jim Harbaugh was

438
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: in the National Championship and yes, I just said Jim Harbaugh,

439
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: that game is the following day. So if you've fired

440
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: everyone on the tent, Jim Harbaugh's planned that night. Hell,

441
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: and even if he got bounced the first night against Georgia,

442
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: that's a week ago. He's not going anywhere. He's already

443
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: signed in his class. Jim Harbaugh and Mark Davis went

444
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: when Jed York mutually departed with his coach, had contact.

445
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: They talked. Now, it was a weird spot. Michigan was

446
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 1: going full court press. They offered him an enormous contract.

447
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: The Raiders weren't really viewed as you know Khalil Mack

448
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 1: and Derek Carr had just finished their rookie season that

449
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 1: the team was financially not in a grade spot. It

450
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 1: was kind of a toxic place. And I give Jack

451
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: del Real some credit. He got the job and kind

452
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: of got them on the right foot. Well, now they're

453
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: in Vegas, where in theory the money should be flowing.

454
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: Their practice facility is incredible, and Mark Davis has just

455
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: shown with John Gruden he's willing to pay a premium

456
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: for coaches. He was actually ahead of his time. You

457
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: see some of the coaching money that's getting thrown around

458
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: now for college guys. Mark Davis was doing that five

459
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: six years ago with John Gruden. Right, I mean that's

460
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: he kind of set the bar, like that's the new contract.

461
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: You want to get a sweet coach, you gonna offer

462
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,719
Speaker 1: eight to ten years at ten million plus. And I

463
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: do think that Mark Davis would be crazy to not

464
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: reach out to Jim Harbaugh because the team has a

465
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: couple of defensive ends, they have a quarterback on the

466
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 1: roster that they need to figure out what to do with.

467
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: Derek Carr next year will be going into the last

468
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 1: year of his contract. But if you are going to

469
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: detonate this thing, which I think is probably the right move, uh,

470
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: you can't just entrust Mike Mayock, who's been a general

471
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: manager in the league for three years and a lifetime

472
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 1: TV guy, to just resurrect your franch let him hire

473
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: the coach. Then I think Jim Harbaugh would make a

474
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: lot of sense. And obviously, Jim Harbaugh had the most

475
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Speaker 1: successful year in his career so far at Michigan, So

476
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: if he were to win a national championship, I actually

477
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: think he has a pretty easy out. He said, Listen,

478
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: I I came back. You cut my salary in half.

479
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: I gave all this money to all these people that

480
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: lost their money during COVID. I'm a good guy and

481
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: now I'm a winner. I've brought you everything I've I've

482
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: you know, kind of filled the cupboards for you guys

483
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: with players and talent. I got the brand back. Take

484
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: it from here right, Or maybe he just finds himself

485
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: being very little. I don't know, but we've always talked

486
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: about Jim. This is the longest Jim Harbaugh has ever

487
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: been in a place in his coaching career by a

488
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: pretty wide margin. Now every game that goes by, keep separating,

489
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: because the longest before that was four years. And listen,

490
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 1: Jim loves his money. He just took a huge pay cut.

491
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's resentful or petty at Michigan,

492
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: not saying they were wrong because he hadn't been producing.

493
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: But to me, if you are going to blow it

494
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: up to meet Jim Harbaugh for the Raiders and their brand,

495
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 1: I think it just aligns and makes perfect sense. So

496
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: if the Raiders get their ask king this week, which

497
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: they should playing the Chiefs, you know team that's just

498
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: one of the hottest teams in the league, and then

499
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: their season just kind of unravels again as it should.

500
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: They're just not good enough. Uh we don't. I don't

501
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: know if this coach is any good. They just got

502
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: some problems. Don't be shocked when Jim Harbaugh's name keeps

503
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: coming up with the Raider search. And the other team

504
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: that I think is just facing a little desperation is

505
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: the Brownies. And listen, they were a team that coming

506
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: into the season, you didn't have to be John Schneider

507
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 1: or Jason light to look at their roster and go, damn,

508
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: this has got to be one of the best rosters

509
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Speaker 1: in the league. This is a team that should win

510
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen games, and right now they are, you know,

511
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: fighting for their playoff lives this weekend against the Ravens.

512
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: They've had a bunch of injuries, mainly their quarterback has

513
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: been a shell of himself because of those injuries. Now,

514
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: as of recording this on Thursday, he practiced on Monday,

515
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: practice on Wednesday. They're coming off of bye. It's the

516
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: first time he's been healthy, you know, healthier in a while,

517
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: because it's hard to get healthy when you're playing every week. Well,

518
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: they have this by maybe he gets his body under

519
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: him a little bit. But if you lose this game

520
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: against the Ravens, and let's face it, the Ravens aren't

521
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: that good right now, what do you do If you're

522
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: the Browns. You've already picked up his fifth year option,

523
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: so he's gonna be on the team next year. But

524
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: this is not the general manager of the drafted Baker Mayfield.

525
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: This is not the head coach that pounded the table

526
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: for Baker Mayfield. Now, Stefanski has proven that he can

527
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: win with quarterbacks like this, right. I think he could

528
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: win with case Keenum, he won with Kirk Cousins. He

529
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: could win with a healthy Baker Mayfield. But the big,

530
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: you know, kind of the elephant in the room is

531
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: and Lamar hasn't signed his contract yet, but he's gonna

532
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 1: get a huge contract. Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. Are we

533
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: giving this guy huge money? Well, if you can't make

534
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: the playoffs? And a big reason is because he's terrible. Like,

535
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: let's face it, Baker is not getting extended. The are

536
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: two IVY League guys. They're really wired. Stefanski is a

537
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: football coach. But I do think the way they think, definitely,

538
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: Andrew Barry is a little you know, like baseball analytical,

539
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: And I mean that in a positive way, you know,

540
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: valuing what's the cost we gotta pay for, you know,

541
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: given the production, can we piece mail this together? Now?

542
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: Unlike baseball, where you can platoon players. It's much different

543
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks, right. You can't go cheap on a quarterback

544
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: and then complain when you don't win. But they're in

545
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: this They inherited this situation and last year it was good,

546
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: so I don't blame them for rolling it back. But

547
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: I do think this season and if you lose games

548
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: like this, divisional games to a team that is not

549
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: going away, Like if you think about the Ravens, this

550
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: might be their low point. They had a million injuries,

551
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: even Lamars banged up. It's just been a weird season

552
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: and they're still gonna win probably ten or eleven games.

553
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: That's their low point, right. The Bengals, whether they make

554
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs this year or not, it's pretty clear their

555
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: their core of young players is going nowhere. And number one,

556
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: they have a quarterback. So if you're the Browns, part

557
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: of it is not just the big picture of the

558
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: a f C, which looks pretty good. Chiefs are going nowhere,

559
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: the Colts now have a quarterback. Titans just have a

560
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: good infrastructure. The Bills are going through a rough spot

561
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: and they ain't going anywhere. Patriots are here to stay.

562
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: Like I do think you need to do some introspection

563
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: kind of same thing with the Raiders, like the FC

564
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: is gonna be good for a while, that you need

565
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: a top flight coach, which I think the Browns have.

566
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: I think is the fancy is good and you need

567
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: a good quarterback without the good quarterback. And when I say,

568
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: like Baker is good enough if he's making eight nine

569
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: million dollars, he's not if you're gotta pay him thirty

570
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 1: five million dollars, especially if like if this is probably

571
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: closer to the Baker than what we saw last year.

572
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: Is there some middle ground? I don't know, But if

573
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Speaker 1: he if he gets smoked this weekend, which I don't

574
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: have a great field for this game, I would tend

575
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: to bet the Ravens. I I do think you have

576
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: to start questioning what are these two Ivy League guys

577
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: that run the Browns gonna do with their young quarterback?

578
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: And then some other new who's uh Cavon Thibodeau, the

579
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: star pass rusher for the Oregan Ducks, who's one of

580
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: the I think the biggest recruit Organs ever landed, who

581
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: is going to be a lock top three pick. I

582
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: I think the number one pick is really between him

583
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: and Aidan Hutchinson, the star pass rusher for the Michigan Wolverines.

584
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Speaker 1: One problem for Thibodeaux, and it's no fault of his own.

585
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: The moment they lost to Utah, they're no longer going

586
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: to the Rose Bowl. Then his coach leaves, so he

587
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: declares to go pro. He's not gonna play in the

588
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: bowl game against Oklahoma. Now he has three years, a

589
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: body of work. He doesn't need to do anything. I

590
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: could say the same thing for Hutchinson. The problem for

591
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: Tibodeau is gonna be Hutchinson might have been slightly above

592
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: him anyway. And when I think Dan Campbell, if you

593
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: watch number ninety seven at Michigan, it's hard not to

594
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: think like, yeah, I can't imagine Dan Campbell loving this guy.

595
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: When I think Dan Campbell, I think number ninety seven

596
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: at Michigan. And then potentially he has two more games

597
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: because obviously he's gonna play in his bowl games because

598
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: he's playing in the playoffs. What if Hutchinson gets to

599
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: play in multiple games against the two best SEC teams

600
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: and racks up three or four sacks. But if he

601
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: has a couple against Georgia and then a couple against Alabama,

602
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see how he wouldn't solidify himself

603
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: as the number one overall pick. It makes a lot

604
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: of sense, not that this matters in pro football, but

605
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: he plays at Michigan. The Lions are gonna have the

606
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: number one overall pick. They're in desperate need for defensive players. Honestly,

607
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: it already feels like I said, like he's gonna be

608
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: the guy. But if he has, and there's gonna be

609
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: twenty plus million people watching these playoff games, the ratings

610
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: are gonna be out Michigan Georgia. I would imagine that

611
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: game is gonna be one of the most highly rated

612
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: playoff games in the history of the playoffs. And he's

613
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: gonna be one of the prime guys we're gonna be

614
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: talking about, and the camera's gonna be on him. He

615
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: has a couple of sacks. They upset that they win

616
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,479
Speaker 1: that game. I think they're a touchdown underdog. And then

617
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: they get Bama in the Natty. You're gonna look the

618
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: guy that earned himself a lot of money coming back

619
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: for a senior season, and um, he's gonna end up

620
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: going number one overall. A couple other NFL stories that

621
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: I just thought were interesting. Andrew Whitworth, who I'm just

622
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: a big fan of. I mean, I've been watching his

623
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: game since he was with the Bengals. He's forty years old.

624
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: Forty years starting get left tackle at forty years old.

625
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: What an incredible accomplishment. Now, part of it is like

626
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: you just get incredible genetics to be that big and

627
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: that you know, graceful just to be able to play tackle.

628
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: But then the element of of luck slash toughness to

629
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: be able to last that long in the trenches and

630
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: still be good enough to start on a good team

631
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: that you're just not gonna see that very often. Remember

632
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: when we had that, I think it was like ten

633
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: years Joe Thomas had never missed a snap and then

634
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: he heard his shoulder and ended his season, and I

635
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: think he retired a little later after. Like, you just

636
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: don't see this stuff that often, even in a day

637
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: and age where four he's probably the new you know,

638
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: even for offensive lineman forty at the new thirty forties,

639
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: maybe the new thirty seven. But it's it's very, very

640
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: difficult to start at that position where unlike guard center,

641
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: I gotta cover some ground. I'm going up against powerful guys, speed,

642
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: guys outside linebackers. They blitz uh defensive backs off that side,

643
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: like you gotta be a top flight athlete on top

644
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: of being a top flight tough guy, on top of

645
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: just having, you know, not having major injuries to overcome it.

646
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: So it's just that's just a cool little nugget. Extra

647
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: point rate in the NFL right now is the lowest

648
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy nine. And go back to Belichick. Do

649
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: you remember several years ago he was the guy pounding

650
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: the table for not having the extra point field goal

651
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: at the two yard line. He said, move it back,

652
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: making a legitimate field goal. So there is some human

653
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: element of that, even if it's not because I think

654
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: before it was like just adding that slight variable and

655
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: then it gets some people to think about going for two.

656
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: Let's face it added a little excitement in the NFL

657
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: when I remember when it was I don't want to

658
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: say controversial, but when the when it was being discussed

659
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: whether they were gonna move the extra point back, I'm like,

660
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: who even cares? It has been a hit that worked

661
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: Belichick genius Jamal Adams out for the season injured. I

662
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: think he heard his shoulder. Um, I know, Pete basically

663
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: said that, like they don't not only regret the trade,

664
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: they or they don't regret the trade. They think he's

665
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 1: been fantastic, made a bunch of plays. It's been a disaster.

666
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: If they had to do over, they would they would

667
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: press the reset button so faster head would spin. I

668
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: don't blame them. They made a bold move because Pete,

669
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: the head coach, is ultimately the boss of the organization.

670
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: And it's just backfired. Now, I don't blame it didn't

671
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: backfire because he got injured. Even if he hadn't got injured,

672
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: he's just not good enough to trade for to one

673
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: in it too, And it's just been a trade that

674
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: ultimately might cost you know this, this kind of let

675
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: this dynasty is the wrong word. Uh, you know, the

676
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: ten year of the group to come to an end. Now,

677
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: it's not just because of this move, but I do

678
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: think this move, the short sighted move, is gonna be

679
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: symbolic to why it all ends and last. But at

680
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: least this is the Burrow finger. Is just something to

681
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: keep an eye on. Because the a f C playoffs

682
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: pretty wide open. I still think the Colts are gonna

683
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: get in. I think the charges are gonna get in

684
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: and I think if the if the Bengals lose this

685
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: week to the forty niners and Burrows hands messed up,

686
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: like the Bengals have no shot if Joe is injured,

687
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: that's just that ain't gonna happen. So and that pains me.

688
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: I'm a big Joe Burrow guy. I wanted to be healthy.

689
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: But you heard a finger. We've seen what it has

690
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: done to a couple of guys in the league, and

691
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: we saw what it did to Russell. He's been a

692
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: show of himself. Um, you know since that injury. So

693
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: I know it's a little I don't think it's mald finger,

694
00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: but he dislocated it clearly is probably pretty painful. A

695
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: couple of college things I would recommend, Um, if you

696
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: just got seven eight minutes, just watch Mario crystal Ball's

697
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: introduction press conference. I didn't watch him taking questions, but

698
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: just him introducing himself to the Miami you know, community,

699
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: to his team, to the media, and just kind of

700
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: selling himself. And I'll be honest, I haven't watched Mario

701
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: speak that much, but when I watched that introductory press conference,

702
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: I came away thinking, I get it, I understand I

703
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: understand why why this guy is such a good recruiter. Now,

704
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: part of it was his passion for that, uh you

705
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: know university obviously his connection of playing there, what it

706
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: means for him. It's hard to fake that, Like you

707
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: can't fake his passion for the University of Miami. But

708
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: I also think, and he mentioned this, people act like

709
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: he was just ready to jump ship. I actually think

710
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: he was all in an Oregan. Not that anyone is

711
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: saying anything otherwise, but he had he was in the

712
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: deep end with Oregon, and I do believe watching him talk,

713
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: there are two jobs like Oregon had themselves a coach

714
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: who was not looking to leave two jobs he would

715
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: have left for Alabama. Has saban every tired or this job?

716
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: Other than that, he wasn't gonna leave Oregan. You know

717
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: why he didn't need to. They were landing top seven

718
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: eight recruiting classes every year in a conference that no

719
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: one was doing that. Now Lincoln probably will now that

720
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: he's here, But part of him going to Miami, you

721
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: just you feel the passion. I think he feels obligated

722
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: to fix the place that changed his life. But his

723
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: ability to go into these recruits homes, I understand why

724
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: all these guys have been committing to him? An Oregan like,

725
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 1: it's like, I I get it, I see it. He's

726
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: got like a Panasha a swag to him that It's like, yeah,

727
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: Now he's not a great in game coach, he's not Mr. Schamatic,

728
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: But in college, if you can be an elite recruiter.

729
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: Let's face it. Now, Urban Ire, you know, when he

730
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: was in college, was a better schematic guy, but he

731
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: he had offensive coordinators calling the plays. Urban wasn't play caller.

732
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: He just became the best recruiter in the country him

733
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: and saving right, it's kind of what Kirby's doing. Like

734
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: Kirby is not calling the plays anymore. Dan Landing is

735
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: calling the plays on defense. So if you can become

736
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: and I think Mario can become this a top two

737
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: or three recruiter in the country, especially at Miami, when

738
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: all the like it's it's gonna his floor. Listen, I

739
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: don't think Mario is ever gonna be some elite college coach.

740
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: When I say elite, I just mean like, I think

741
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: it's gonna be difficult for him to win national championships,

742
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: but his floor because of his recruiting ability, Like I

743
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: think they can win ten games by like year two. Now,

744
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna be natural. Everyone will be excited. If he

745
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: has back to back, like ten win seasons, people will

746
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: get antsy, like why can't you make the playoffs? Why

747
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: can't beat Clemson or whatever. But I'm telling you he's

748
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: gonna turn that bad boy around much faster than I

749
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: think people realize. I would imagine they're competitive next year,

750
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: but they will be good in two years. He's just

751
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: he's just do a lead of a recruiter. I'm telling you.

752
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: Watch the press conference and you come away thinking, yeah,

753
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: I'd probably commit to Mario crystal Ball. I watched Marcus Freeman,

754
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: who you know, at thirty five years old. Hell, I'm

755
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: older than the guy. It's remarkable to see his maturity

756
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: level and him talk at his press conference. He is

757
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: a very, very impressive guy. But I also have this

758
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: thought like he could go two ways. I think whenever

759
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 1: you take over a program that is already really good

760
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 1: and has a ton of players on the roster, you're

761
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: inexperience as a coach, like Lincoln Riley several years ago.

762
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: You can learn through it because your talent is so strong.

763
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: Like would Lincoln Riley have become Lincoln Riley if I

764
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: put his first job at Arkansas or I put his

765
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: first job at Duke. I think we can all agree,

766
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: and I think he'd agree if he was sitting here

767
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: with a beer. Yeah, probably I wouldn't have. You know,

768
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: I might not have dominated right off the bat. So

769
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: he gets to inherit a program which is loaded with

770
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: NFL players. Even if they're flawed relative to Ohio State,

771
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: in Alabama and Clemson, they're still better than other programs.

772
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: And he's a really impressive guy, and I'm watching him talk.

773
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: He is going to recruit harder than Brian Kelly, and

774
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly was doing a damn good job at Notre Dame.

775
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 1: This guy is gonna go after players that Mario Kirby,

776
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: Nick and Ryan Day are going after, which we'll see

777
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: if they have success doing that. But he's going to

778
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: on top of the guys that he knows he can get.

779
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: The one question I have is for every Lincoln Riley

780
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: that gets to inherit this really good program, sometimes you

781
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: see now it was different because they got sanctioned, but

782
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: like when Lane got the job at USC, and sometimes

783
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: you see it with younger coaches it can just be difficult,

784
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,959
Speaker 1: Like you have a couple of difficult losses, something weird

785
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: just happens in your program. Because the one thing every

786
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 1: coach always talks about, and it makes sense, you can

787
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: never be prepared for things that end up coming your

788
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: way because when you're like the offensive coordinator, the defensive coordinator.

789
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: Let's say, if you're Markus Freeman the last year with

790
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator. Not that this is gonna happen that

791
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: often in Notre Dame, but off the starting offensive guard

792
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: gets a d u I. You don't have to deal

793
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: with that. It's not your unit, it's not your guy.

794
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it doesn't impact you. You You don't

795
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 1: know the player, but it's just not really your problem.

796
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: That's the head coaches problem. That's the offensive coordinator's problem,

797
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: and it's really the offensive line coaches problem. But when

798
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: you're the head coach, if that happens, a guy gets

799
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: the U I, guy gets in trouble, guys ineligible, that's

800
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: your problem. Whether it's an offensive guy, whether it's a

801
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: defensive guy, whether a special teams guy. And I'm just

802
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: watching him, going, this guy's thirty five. You know he

803
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: only the difference is now he's worked for Fickle for

804
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: three years and then he went to Brian Kelly. Lincoln

805
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: Riley had worked for UH Bob Stoops for several years

806
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: as the offensive coordinator. Now was only a couple But

807
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: to me, if he had been there a couple of years,

808
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: he would have, you know, a lot of good insight

809
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: into the way Brian Kelly ran his program. Now, like

810
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: I said, he did work for Lou Fickle for a

811
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: couple of years. Just gonna be tough. It is not

812
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: easy to be a head coach. And I think next

813
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: year they play Ohio State, they play Clemson. The thing

814
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: at Notre Dame, right, Like I think in Lincoln's first

815
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: year boom they made the playoffs. Right, So it just

816
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 1: gives everyone fix of your credibility at a much higher

817
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: level than really you might have been that like you

818
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: were gonna be what you were gonna be. But his team,

819
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: and he had a stud NFL quarterback. Now, if Marcus

820
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: Freeman makes the playoffs next year, he'll get a contract extention.

821
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: He'll be a made man. What if they go nine

822
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: and three, then all of a sudden, it's like are

823
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: we taking a step back? Whether that's fair or not.

824
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 1: And then you know, that's the thing about taking over

825
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: the elite of the elite programs, Like ultimately, when Lincoln

826
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: took over Oklahoma, you had to be going ten and

827
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: two minimum, you know, really they wanted eleven and one,

828
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: twelve and one competing for the playoffs. Right, you can't

829
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: just come on Notre Dame and have like a solid

830
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: year eight and four. People be starting asking themselves, can

831
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: this guy coach? So I do? I'm rooting for him again.

832
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: His mature prey at that age six kids blows me away,

833
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: but I it might be a little more difficult than

834
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: we think. And last, but not least, Jeff Tedford became

835
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: the head coach at Fresno State, and listen, I at

836
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: Fresno State, I don't I think it can be overstated

837
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: how lucky a Nonpower five program is like Fresno State

838
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: to have an alumni and Jeff Tedford, who despite having

839
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: several like heart attacks, refuses to quit coaching football because

840
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: they shouldn't be able to hire a guy this good.

841
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 1: I mean they should. Jeff Tedford should be at Oregon.

842
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: Jeff Tedford took Cal which is I think the best

843
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 1: public university not in America in the world, the number

844
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: one public university in the world and turned it into

845
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 1: like an elite football school, was producing multiple first rounders

846
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: every year, found Aaron Rodgers Marshall. You think Marshawn and

847
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch and DeShawn Jackson would ever end up at

848
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: CAL in a million years if Jeff Tedford hadn't been alive.

849
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: And for Fresno State to get this guy, uh that

850
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: that they are very very lucky. And this when I

851
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,479
Speaker 1: talk about football addicts, like I'm talking addicts. This guy

852
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: had to have surgery on his heart. This guy had

853
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: a bad ticker. He he had to quit coaching multiple

854
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: times because of his heart. He's sixty years old, he's

855
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: a multimillionaire, and he just refuses to stop. He just

856
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: will not stop coaching. Me You most of us at

857
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: that age with some health asie like I'm done. He

858
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: just can't stop. I as a as a Fresno State fan,

859
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: excited to have him on board. And the program should

860
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: feel very very lucky that Tedford, it's just a football

861
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: addict and loves the program. Okay, let's go Middlecoff mail

862
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: bag at John Middlecoff the Instagram firing those d M s.

863
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: I love to be in your middlecoff mail bag. John

864
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: This Jason from Lahoma. My grandmother taught English and Spanish

865
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: at Stanford in the Middle in the middle of the eighties,

866
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: had an elway in the class. Allegedly. I visited Palo

867
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 1: Alto area a few times growing up. Love northern California.

868
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: What's your take on Lincoln Rylan the USC job. I

869
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: think it's a great fit. Even tho you fans were

870
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: hating on him. Now you as it turns out with

871
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: the new higher inventables, I think is super higher as

872
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: ou hasn't had I believe, a top ten defense since

873
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: two thousand. I'd love to hear your take on both

874
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: hires from Oklahoma now reside in Denver. If you ever

875
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: want to tee it up, be my treat to take

876
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: your money on the links ship. I would say, I

877
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: think Lincoln I I've got a lot of people in

878
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: my timeline retweeting pictures of him with star players. They

879
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: are going to get legitimate recruits, not that they you know,

880
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: historically haven't, but the last several years they have not.

881
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: It hasn't been at the same level. They're going to

882
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: recruit like a top I would say five level program.

883
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 1: My only question is gonna be Lincoln Riley is gonna

884
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: be make, you know, made or broken on this. He

885
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: was crushing it at Ou, but they were never gonna

886
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: win a national championship. Why they didn't have a good

887
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: enough defense. They didn't have NFL corners, they didn't have

888
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: NFL pass rushers. They just weren't good enough on defense.

889
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: He's gonna get offensive players. He can find wide receivers

890
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: and Joe Mixons and Kyler Murray's and Caleb Williams, and

891
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: he could find offense and sweet offensive lineman. Offense is

892
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: gonna be zero issue for him. I have one question.

893
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: Can he recruit like Pete Carroll recruited, Because when I

894
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: think about Pete Carroll, I think about a linebacking corps

895
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 1: that had Clay Matthews, that had Brian Cushing and had

896
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: one other sweet dude who's escaping me and mal Luga.

897
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: But I don't know if mal Luga was with that group.

898
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: Might have been Malluga, Cushing, and Matthews. Yeah, maybe that's it.

899
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: That was the linebacker group. He had defensive lineman like

900
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: four of them. If he had he played, you know,

901
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: he played a four three. On a given year, two

902
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: of them would get drafted in the first round and

903
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: the others two would be second and third round picks.

904
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: Rutgers and Lawrence's and Mike Patterson's and just an unlimited

905
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: amount of front seven guys there to kick your ass.

906
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: Other dude fifty five last named Rivers. Remember that guy?

907
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: The other samoan guy who played for the Seahawks was

908
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: a baller se I almost at Seattle. Pete Carroll at USC.

909
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: The reason he ran a program like USC, Oregon or

910
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 1: excuse me, Alabama, Georgia or Ohio State his front seven

911
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: NFL players and then he had NFL guys in the secondary.

912
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: If Lincoln's gonna win big, he better do that. And

913
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if he can recruit that. I don't know,

914
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: even though if he knows what it looks like. Honestly,

915
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: I'm just asking, and I'm a I'm a Lincoln Riley fan.

916
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: If you follow me on Twitter, you know I've been

917
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: retweeting Sooner stuff for years. My guy works for him.

918
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: I love Lincoln Riley, I love the Oklahoma Sooner program.

919
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: I'm still an Oklahoma Sooner fan. I'm a big Venerables guy.

920
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: I actually think he's gonna be really good. I was

921
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: listening to my guy Jay Boy show. He had a

922
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: good point. They actually might be better equipped to go

923
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: into the US, you know, go into the SEC with

924
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: a defensive coach. Think about a lot of the coaches

925
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: that are having success in the SEC, saving defensive guy, Kirby,

926
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: defensive guy. I mean, it's not it's not rocket science here.

927
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: You gotta play defense. If you play defense in the SEC,

928
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: you can win. So if Venables, you know, Venables knows

929
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: how to recruit. He's at a front row seat with

930
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 1: Bob Stoops and then uh and then Dabblo Sweeney. He's

931
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: worked for two guys in twenty years, both guys recruiting

932
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: NonStop NFL players. And actually when Stoops was there, they

933
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: were better on defense way back in the day. So

934
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: I like both hires. Um, I'm fascinating. You know what Clemson.

935
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: Clemson does not take transfer guys or junior college players.

936
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: They only take freshman that they recruited from high school.

937
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: We'll see if Venables falls through on that or he changes,

938
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: because in Oklahoma they've taken a lot of transfers. I

939
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: mean in Oklahoma, where do you think they got Kyler Murray.

940
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: Where do you think they got Baker Mayfield? Where do

941
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: you think they got Jalen Hurts? Like Clemson is not

942
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: doing that at any position, I'd be doing that. I

943
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: would love the transfer portal, but I'm a pro guy.

944
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: I like free agency. So we'll see a Ventables like

945
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley is gonna be into the transfer portal. Will

946
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: Venables I don't know. I don't I don't know what

947
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: his philosophy is now. Is it gonna be a good like?

948
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: I hope Venable is still calling the defense. I've been

949
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: a Seahawks fan for a couple of years now, and

950
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it's all Pete's Faull Schneider should be

951
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: on the hot seat as well. With all of this

952
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: questionable draft picks, the first one that comes to mind

953
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: is taking Rashad Penny over Nick Chubb. I agree, in

954
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: hindsight that pick is really, really bad. I mean, that's

955
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: that's really It's easy December night, two nine o'clock at

956
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: night to say that's a shitty pick, and we've known

957
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: that for a couple of years. But at the time,

958
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I love her shot Penny. I I

959
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: really did. And here's the hard part about judging people

960
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: in football. And I would say in any job that

961
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: you're not in, it's got Well that's a terrible draft pick.

962
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: Well does John Schnyder pick the players or does Pete Carroll?

963
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that. I know a

964
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: lot of people that think Pete controls everything. Now I

965
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: do think he gives John a lot of leeway, But

966
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: like who who made that decision? Really only those two

967
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: guys and the rest of the front office knows. I

968
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: don't have the answer. I think it's easy to be

969
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: like John Snyder made the pick? Are we sure did

970
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: Pete make the pick? I don't know. I I honestly

971
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: don't know, so I until you know that information, I

972
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: think sometimes it's hard to just shoot on a guy

973
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 1: for a draft pick, Like who's in charge in that room?

974
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: He's to make suggestions. Only one guy gets to make

975
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: the decision, So as Pete letting Schneider picked the players

976
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: on draft night, or as Pete actually influencing that again,

977
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 1: do not know, Brian, I remember you're doing quick takes

978
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: on the rise guys. This guy's going way back. I

979
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: appreciate your take on Mike Tomlin earlier this week, but

980
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: it got me thinking, why does Mike McCarthy get dumped

981
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: dumped on by everyone else? Both Tom and McCarthy have

982
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: one Super Bowl, Both are CEO head coaches, similar winning percentages,

983
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: coach Hall of Fame quarterbacks, and have had a lot

984
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: of playoff heartbreak on their resume. Both brought stability to

985
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: top notch organizations. I know McCarthy had a couple of

986
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: rough seasons, but Tomlin has had several as well. Yeah,

987
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: Tom's never lost. Thomas never had another five hundred season,

988
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: so if he doesn't go eight eight and one this year,

989
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: it'll be his first under five hundred season of his career.

990
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: McCarthy his last three seasons coming into this season all

991
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: under five hundred. He got fired in the middle of

992
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: it would have been eighteen. He was under five hundred seventeen,

993
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: and he was under five hundred last year. Thomas never

994
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: lost in a division that's you know, the Ravens, the

995
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: Bengals have been pretty good like his DIVI as the Bears,

996
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: the Lions, I mean, these teams suck. The Vikings have

997
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 1: been the only team that is good. So I would

998
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: just say that I think Tomlin is more likable. Like

999
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: it's just I I just view Tomlin. I would just

1000
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: rather have Tomlin. I don't really know. I can't. That's

1001
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: a hard part about judging coaches beside the record, Like

1002
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: I can just quantify what I see as a guy.

1003
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: I'll take Mike Tomlin all day long over McCarthy wouldn't

1004
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: even hesitate. And like you said, if you just look

1005
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: at the numbers on their Wikipedia page and wins, I

1006
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 1: hear you. I I'd roll with Tomlin. Big Michigan fan

1007
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: here couldn't be more excited about the last few weeks

1008
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: have gone from my football team. I was wondering what

1009
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: your thought about Cincinnati being in the playoff. More specifically,

1010
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: if Cincinnati gets blown out by Alabama, does that hurt

1011
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: the Group of five? Then if they didn't get in

1012
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: at all? Seems like losing by sixty would be more

1013
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: detrimental than not being in at all. If they're not

1014
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 1: in at least, will they still talk about the Group

1015
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: of five? If they just get blown out and the

1016
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: narrative will be they never belonged in the first place.

1017
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,479
Speaker 1: What's the saying, Like, it's better it's better to live

1018
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: and loved than never loved. At all or never lived

1019
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: at all. I'm sucking up the saying, but you guys

1020
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: know the drill. You gotta just get in and take

1021
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: your chances. If they lose by thirty points, Like they're

1022
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: playing Nick Saban in Alabama, They're they're playing the greatest

1023
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: coach in the history of the sport. They're playing a

1024
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: coach who's trying to get a seventh national championship at Alabama.

1025
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: I mean, this would this would be his eighth national championship.

1026
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna get a little bit of benefit

1027
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: of doubt. And if I'm a Michigan fan, I'm thinking,

1028
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: can we beat Georgia and then can we beat Alabama?

1029
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: It would be the greatest two game stretch of Jim

1030
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: Harbaugh's life. How awesome would that be. I'm rooting for that.

1031
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Jim to beat Kirby and then obviously

1032
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: Nick Saban to handle business against Cincinnati. Saban Harbaugh National Championship.

1033
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 1: You want to see big television ratings Michigan Alabama, I

1034
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: would imagine Alabama. Let's say Michigan wins a tight game

1035
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: against Georgia, Alabama wins beat Cincinnati handily. I would imagine

1036
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: Alabama's a ten point favorite. Uh ten might be strong

1037
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 1: seven and a half, eight points. I guess it depends.

1038
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: It depends how Michigan looks against Georgia, but they would

1039
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: be a pretty heavy favorite. But I think Cincinnati, I

1040
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: don't think it matters what happens to them. I mean

1041
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: if they lose by sixty, yeah, that that'd be a problem.

1042
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: You can't lose by sixty. I started listening to three

1043
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: and Out, which I found on the herd. Say thank

1044
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: you dig the podcast, just a little compliment, appreciate that. Oliver.

1045
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 1: Good people here in my in my d MS, notre

1046
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: dame fan here. I've been thinking about you were with

1047
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: the Eagles when the coaching change happened with Chip Kelly.

1048
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: I have always wondered how close Brian Kelly was to

1049
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: being hired before they went with Chip. Well, what I

1050
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: think happened, if I remember correctly, is Howie and Jeffrey

1051
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: Lury offered the job to Bill O'Brien, who was coaching

1052
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: at Penn State, but it had only been there a year,

1053
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: and Bill O'Brien turned the job down, and they went

1054
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: to Chip, and Chip originally turned the Eagles down and

1055
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: then they just went back after Chip. I think he

1056
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: played Kansas State in the Fiesta Bowl. Honestly that I

1057
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Speaker 1: was scouting the West coast in two thousand and twelve,

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Speaker 1: the year Chip, you know, the like his that fall

1059
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 1: he was with Oregon and he takes the the Eagles

1060
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: job in January. He should have played the National Championship.

1061
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: They blew a game at home in overtime to Stanford.

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00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: He had an elite team. His team on defense, Kiko

1063
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: Alonso to Forrest Buckner, Eric Armstead. They had a ton

1064
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: of dudes. Their offense was elite. Really their downfall Mariota

1065
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 1: was a redshirt freshman. It's why Chip was hesitant to leave,

1066
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: because he knew he had Mariota coming up, and he

1067
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: thought Mariota was gonna be a star. The irony is

1068
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: of recording this Chip Kelly might be the next head

1069
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: coach to Oregon, which to me feels a little bit like,

1070
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: you know, we all got that person that we can

1071
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: give a call to, you know, if it's like late

1072
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: at night, if you're single and you know a date

1073
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: didn't go well and you know you need to hook

1074
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: up or something. I feel like Phil Knights is kind

1075
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: of going back to the well, like there's a reason

1076
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: you guys broke up, and you've seen what he's done

1077
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: since you it hasn't gone that well. Like you could

1078
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: do better than Chip Kelly. You can, Phil, you really can.

1079
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna go from Mario Cristo Ball, who l s

1080
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: U was over University of Miami was all over Florida,

1081
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: would have easily taken to Chip another guy that no

1082
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: one else would hire. Beside you that U c l

1083
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: A doesn't even want to give an extension to it

1084
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: feels kind of crazy. Is some buzzing the interweb that

1085
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: if Chip Kelly goes to Oregon, Dave Randa, who's a

1086
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: southern California guy, would go to u c l A.

1087
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: If that's true. If I was U c l A,

1088
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: I would drive Chip Kelly to Eugene, Oregon. If that happens.

1089
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: U c l A got became the luckiest program in

1090
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 1: the history of programs, A little bit like Sark when

1091
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: he got hired at USC and then Washington immediately hired

1092
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: Chris Peterson, Like, oh my god, what an upgrade. I'm

1093
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: a diehard New York Giants fan. What are your thoughts

1094
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: in the organization for Improving the offensive side of things.

1095
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: It's painful to watch get us in the red zone

1096
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: and force to kick field goals stupid mistakes. Defense always

1097
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: seems to be carrying us. Our receivers are not as

1098
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: productive as Sa Kwan doesn't seem to be as explosive

1099
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: after the injuries. I never like gettleman, But what's gonna

1100
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: turn us around? It's pretty simple, man. You have no

1101
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: chance without a quarterback, and Daniel Jones just isn't good enough.

1102
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchen Joe Judge probably aren't good enough either. So

1103
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: your general manager sucks, your play callers Garrett and Freddie

1104
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: Kitchens are any good? And your quarterback isn't any good.

1105
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: And is Joe Judge a good head coach? I don't know.

1106
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's hard to tell. But it

1107
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: doesn't look great. Let's be real, like it's it's been

1108
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: average at best. If you're giving Joe Judge the benefit

1109
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: of the doubt, like you know his team sucked. They

1110
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: play hard, Okay, It's like it's not we don't judge

1111
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: you on playing hard in the NFL. It's a bottom

1112
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: line business. You win or you lose, and and like

1113
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: it's understandable if you're a twenty point underdog to a

1114
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: team and you lose. But if you lose week in

1115
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: and week out, you're just constantly losing. You're just you

1116
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: just become a loser. You know that your job is

1117
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: to win. So I would tend to say that they

1118
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: probably just need to blow the thing up. I mean,

1119
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: that sucks, that sounds really shitty. It's you'd want to

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00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: avoid that at all costs to start over. But I

1121
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: don't know, man, uh don't have Twitter or Instagram questions

1122
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: regarding the comparisons to Shaun Watson and Gruden. Obviously, no

1123
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: one is on board with either of the actions by

1124
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: the two guys, But I'm curious why the drastic difference

1125
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: of public reaction with Watson having twenty plus sexual assault

1126
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: allegations with him. Is his talent so great that a

1127
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: team will take on regardless of the outcome of these cases.

1128
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: If a player of lesser, lesser talent has this happened,

1129
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: I'd imagine no team would touch him. Thinking of Ray

1130
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: Rice and Kareem Hunt, even though those both guys ended differently.

1131
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: If roles were reversed and Watson sent some nasty emails,

1132
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: I'd assume he would have been suited up at some

1133
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: time this year. And if Gruden at twenty plus allegations,

1134
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: I'd assume he get canned, forced resignation. Curious if Read

1135
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: belichicker Tomlin did this, the same heat would come from it. Well,

1136
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: the reality is none of those guys are doing that.

1137
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,439
Speaker 1: So you know, I think when we play that game,

1138
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: like what happens if Andy Reid or Belichick, well they wouldn't,

1139
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: you know they Here's the thing. I think this one's

1140
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: pretty simple. John Gruden got fired because we had the

1141
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: evidence of the email. Not we I mean I didn't,

1142
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: but we saw it. Ray Rice got booted from the

1143
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: league because we had the video Kareem Hunt. Andy Reid

1144
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: cut him immediately because that video came out. If we

1145
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: had evidence of Deshaun Watson sexually assaulting the masseuses, he'd

1146
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: be fucked. It'd be over. But it's just he said.

1147
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 1: She said, So if these cases, like if he's guilty,

1148
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: if the law finds him guilty, and he does like

1149
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: some time or something he's in, no one's gonna trade

1150
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: for him. But if they go away, just he said,

1151
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: she said, even if he pays them off, like people

1152
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: will just pretend it didn't happen, because no one really knows.

1153
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,439
Speaker 1: But if there were videos of him, let's just hypothetically, say,

1154
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: touching a girl while she's saying, don't touch me, he

1155
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: would be over. It would be a rap, would be game,

1156
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: set and match. There was evidence with Gruten. To me,

1157
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: it's just is there evidence. If there's evidence on a player,

1158
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: they're screwed. We've seen it with players hitting people, any

1159
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: any any video that goes viral of a guy, it's over.

1160
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: It's done right. It's just that simple. There's no evidence,

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01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: at least tangible evidence to the public. If there was

1162
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: tangible evidence of the public of Deshaun Watson, he wouldn't

1163
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: have a snowballs chance in hell to play in the

1164
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: league again. But that's not the case. Just women suing him.

1165
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: Just the whole thing is kind of bizarre. But it's

1166
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: just he said, she said, and really in every individual instance,

1167
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: just the two people know him and her. Now there

1168
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: happens to be twenty two of them. But like, it's

1169
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: just it's just that simple. Now you could say Gruden

1170
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: got the whole thing with Gruden is weird, right, They clearly,

1171
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: like Mark Davis said, they I think maybe Musburger said

1172
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: this a while back, like someone tried to assassinate his career.

1173
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: They did. They went after Dan Snyder and the football team,

1174
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: and they ended up getting Gruden. I mean, it's not

1175
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty clear what happened. Someone had a vandetta

1176
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: against him and used that because there's no way that

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01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: that was the only incriminating evidence in six emails. But

1178
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: there was incriminating evidence on Deshaun Watson and it was public,

1179
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: we wouldn't be talking about teams trading for It's why

1180
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: when Steven Ross, when they were trying to make the

1181
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: trade happen with Miami, he told Deshaun Watson his camp,

1182
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: you have to make this go away, like so it

1183
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: goes away, pay them off or whatever, and we'll trade

1184
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: for you. But until this goes away, we can't trade

1185
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: for you. So until it goes away, no one's trading

1186
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: for him. And you can get on your moral high

1187
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: horse and say Stephen Ross a bad guy paying them off.

1188
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: I don't. It doesn't matter to me. It's just this

1189
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: is simple facts. Evidence Ray Rice video career over right,

1190
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: I mean, when we have tangible evidence, it's over. There

1191
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: have been d u I s guy get you know,

1192
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: a game or two. When you see some of these videos,

1193
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: like Henry Ruggs thing, it's like you guys gonna go

1194
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: jail for twenty years, thirty years. Obviously these aren't apples

1195
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: to apples comparisons. But I really think in this in

1196
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: two thousand one, when we see stuff the meaning the public,

1197
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: that there's no going back of stuff that's just over

1198
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: the top. Right, Remember the story Greg Hardy, Remember when

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01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,439
Speaker 1: the Cowboys signed him and he had paid the check

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01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: to go away, but there was there was written evidence

1201
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: in the I don't even know if I'm using the

1202
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: right uh you know terms. I was gonna say Affidavid,

1203
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: but that doesn't on right, but whatever, that he had

1204
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: thrown his girlfriend on the bed with guns, throwing her

1205
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: against the wall like that happened. He admitted to it,

1206
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: yet the Cowboys still signed him. I remember thinking, like God,

1207
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: this is kind of stupid, which I don't even think

1208
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: that would happen. Now. IM not saying that the Cowboys

1209
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: don't Mike because Jerry doesn't care, but most teams were

1210
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: not going to touch him based on that, you know,

1211
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: evidence that was public information. So I I really think

1212
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: it's as simple as public information is a game changer.

1213
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening, have a great weekend and uh enjoy

1214
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: the football, enjoy your family and enjoy a drink or

1215
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: you know, a nice meal, or we're just hanging out

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Speaker 1: and in the cold wherever you are, else a volume