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Speaker 1: What is up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mets Up Podcast. Before we get going into

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Speaker 1: our mail bag, make sure you're subscribed. I'm calling it

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Speaker 1: Give us a little earliest Christmas gift. All right, we've

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Speaker 1: got mail bag, we got Wilsconterras's trade, we got Murakami news.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about all of that. We don't think

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be any contrarosus mailbag questions, So let's talk

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Speaker 1: about that right off the rip. Because he was traded

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Speaker 1: to the Red Sox for three pitching prospects, Hunter Dobbin's

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Speaker 1: not really a prospect anymore. I guess he's an MLB ready,

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Speaker 1: younger starter. Tell me your thoughts when you saw the

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Speaker 1: package back, James, I.

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Speaker 2: Thought the package back was like a decent a decent

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Speaker 1: I think I like Hunter Dobbins. That the breaking ball quality.

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Speaker 2: Is really good, the commands is really good, the fastball

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Speaker 2: is not great. But that to me just says that

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Speaker 2: he's kind of a rock solid back end rotation guy,

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Speaker 2: kind of in perpetuity. He's also got some shit to him,

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Speaker 2: which I like that about Hunter Dobbins, Like he's had

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Speaker 2: some funny run ins with the Yankees over the years.

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Speaker 2: I think he really ingratiated himself with the Boston fans.

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Speaker 2: They were kind of actually sad to see him go

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Speaker 2: despite getting back in Trera's and the other piece of

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Speaker 2: this trade was great. I don't want to batch the

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Speaker 2: name right here. Oh good luck, yeah, here it comes,

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Speaker 2: here comes. I gotta pull and pull them up and

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Speaker 2: pull them up. It is Yorker fahi though.

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Speaker 1: Nice, Well done, James, Well done, Yoko.

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Speaker 2: He was weirdly acquired by the Red Sox last offseason

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Speaker 2: from the White Sox when the Red Sox dfa cam boozer,

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Speaker 2: My guy, Oh you're just funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But then he he has stuff and they helped him

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Speaker 2: uptick the stuff. This year he put on a little

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Speaker 2: bit of velocity and as like an eighteen or nineteen

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Speaker 2: year old in low way, he was dominant nearly a

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Speaker 2: twenty percent streke up by his walk right, and he

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Speaker 2: already in the two's like he looked nasty and with pitchability.

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Speaker 2: Two different fastballs, a good slider, a legit feel for

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Speaker 2: a change up like a teenager would feel for four pitches,

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Speaker 2: Like that's special. Like, I know he's going to probably

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Speaker 2: sneak near the back end of some top hundred list

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Speaker 2: this year. I know baseball perspectives to shout them out,

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Speaker 2: especially he's being a back end top hundred guy. So

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Speaker 2: that's a pretty spritlegit package for Contreras. Again, Contreras is

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Speaker 2: really good, so I think that's worth the package. Like

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Speaker 2: he's a rock solid eight twenty oh ps guy is

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Speaker 2: probably gonna not ther the Homers and family. It's like

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Speaker 2: it's a good package for a good player, And I

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Speaker 2: think that's that's how trades are supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm a lot of Mets fans are upset

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Speaker 1: because of course, why didn't we get wilsoncon Turia sleep

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Speaker 1: be certain to a had it again, what would this be?

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Speaker 1: This would be like Brandon Sprote and then one of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure this would have led with Skylar Sprote.

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Speaker 2: I think to be like someone like Dobbins. I think

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Speaker 2: Scott definitely has much more upside than Hunter Dobbins just

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Speaker 2: because the fastball quality. But I think Dobbins has a

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Speaker 2: much higher floor than Christian Scott or Sprote, who I

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Speaker 2: it seems like the Cardinals prioritize the pitcher who was younger,

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Speaker 2: Santucci's a change up away from being like a top

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Speaker 2: we definitely don't know where that stuff winds up.

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Speaker 1: It's a that has been the Red Sox right in

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Speaker 1: Now, he was drafted eighth round and twenty twenty one

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this is definitely how I'm getting one of

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Speaker 2: like that hurts would have hurt me, especially just lose

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Speaker 2: to lose Christian Scott, But I think it would have

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Speaker 2: been a fair but expensive deal if the Mets would

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Speaker 2: have made it. Yeah, and I know Mets fans are

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Speaker 2: starring for any sort of move, and it's the hate

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Speaker 2: David Sterns. Any kind of positivity, yeah, any kind of positivity.

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Speaker 2: But like as much as I would have loved Wilson

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Speaker 2: Traris whatever, man, I don't know, Like I don't know

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Speaker 2: giving up all the prospects would have been worth it

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Speaker 2: for the Mets this season for Wilson Contrares, especially when

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Speaker 2: he's getting like eighteen million year.

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Speaker 1: Over the two three years. It's four thirty five already. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you'd be thirty four next season, and we

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Speaker 1: just said no to a better power hitting first baseman

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Speaker 1: contral is funny enough.

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Speaker 2: I think a three year average has a higher WRC

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Speaker 2: more homers. That's the trade off there. But just which

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Speaker 2: I think, it's just hard to get a bat right now,

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Speaker 2: and I think of a similar ilk before we get

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Speaker 2: into the mailbag. Munataka Murakami signed with the Chicago White

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Speaker 2: Sox two years, thirty four million dollars like a coreter,

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Speaker 2: a fifth of what some pundits had them signing forward

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Speaker 2: that they're just not sure if Murakami is like actually

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Speaker 1: And for everybody wondering why the White Sox again, why

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Speaker 1: Why aren't they involved? Me and James talked about it

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Speaker 1: on our other channel to wind up. It's like playing

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Speaker 1: time thing probably too where the White Sox like' you're

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Speaker 1: gonna play every single game, man, or you're gonna play

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Speaker 1: one hundred and forty games and you're gonna play first base.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have a chance to develop here. You bring

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Speaker 1: You put him at first base and put him at

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Speaker 1: you guys wouldn't be rabbid and booing his ass every

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Speaker 1: time he's sending him down, Yes, sending him down like

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Speaker 1: it's probably not the best place to get comfortable in

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Speaker 2: And just for a comparison, remember Yosh's a stugo here. Boy,

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Speaker 2: I do remember yo I suck when he was coming

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Speaker 2: twice as much as Yoshi's Asugo, who had great raw power,

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Speaker 2: States of Americans just simply could not hit major league pitching. Again,

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Speaker 2: Steamer projections have Murakami is like a twenty five homer guy,

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Speaker 2: like the same they have for Mark Fiantos. It's like

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Speaker 2: not He's not a sure thing. He's a fun wild

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Speaker 2: be he could be disgusting. There's a world where he's awesome.

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Speaker 2: The one hundred percentile outcome, I've said this before, it's

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Speaker 2: probably Nick Kurtz or like Devers, like that's what one

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Speaker 2: Wallner Gallo with no defense, and the Mets can't really

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Speaker 2: have more of that. As I'm saying, yeah, it's just

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Speaker 1: And also, if he is good, he'll be a free

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Speaker 1: age in two years and we can sign him. Then

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Speaker 1: and we could bring him in later if we want him.

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Speaker 2: He definitely wanted to go to a place that said

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Speaker 1: He seems like as the White Sox would have done.

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Speaker 1: I believe his manager was also formerly with the White

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Speaker 1: Sox or something like that. There's a White Sox connection

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Speaker 1: from you from your cool yeah, Wallow. So that's what

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Speaker 1: Wheels was telling me. My friend in Japan who was

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Speaker 1: have been a little more obvious. But clapping up for James,

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Speaker 1: guys nailed it not only not only on the wind Up,

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Speaker 1: but he wrote an article and got the aa V

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Speaker 2: I got the AAV right in like early November from

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Speaker 2: Murkame I sid three for fifty one on the wind Up,

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Speaker 2: I say, signed with the White Sox. That's obscene, crazy

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Speaker 2: right crazy, that's crazy, crazy, crazy for the guy who

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Speaker 2: didn't know his batting average of bitches above nine through

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Speaker 1: But ready for the mail bag. Yeah, let's get into

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Speaker 1: these mail bags. And uh, I don't know, James, where

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Speaker 1: do you want to start it? You give me the

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Speaker 1: first one? All right? I think the first one.

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Speaker 2: We're actually gonna go to the metstup discord and we're

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Speaker 2: gonna the discords. Uh invitation for you guys in the

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Speaker 2: description below. We've got a great community of just so

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Speaker 2: many Mets fans chit chatting all day long. You guys

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Speaker 2: want to talk Mets with some people, Yeah, Mark and

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Speaker 2: I will chime in there once in a while. But

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Speaker 2: we got some we got some folks here, But our

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Speaker 2: friend Nick asked a great question for I think where

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Speaker 2: we're at in the off season right now, Shout out

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Speaker 2: the brain Trust, Shout the brain Trust, baby original. If

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Speaker 2: you were allowed only four more moves this offseason, signing

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Speaker 2: trades doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Money is not an issue.

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Speaker 2: What would those four moves be? And four is funny?

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Speaker 2: Nick just said they picked it because that's his lucky number.

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Speaker 1: And he was like, I want a chance to opt

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why not, right, We're getting crazy.

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Speaker 2: We've got two moves left. Which reliever do you want?

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Speaker 1: Ryan Clifford at first base? Right then, so he's like

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Speaker 1: twenty two years old.

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Speaker 2: I think if we only have one move left, I

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Speaker 2: would I would move into the infield. I would find

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Speaker 2: that's the thing I would. I would more look like

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Speaker 2: to find the DH. If we have that last move left.

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Speaker 2: I don't want bench to DH like I don't want

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Speaker 2: to my twenty two year old DH.

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Speaker 1: And who in the world could that even be? Let's

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Speaker 1: think this the podcast that's gonna go for Okamoto, I

442
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Speaker 1: don't think so.

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Speaker 2: It's seemed really quiet on him too. He oddly he

444
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Speaker 2: feels like a really good fit for this roster.

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Speaker 1: Oh, of course he does. He could play first, third, DH,

446
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Speaker 1: even corner outfield if you needed it in a pinch, like.

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Speaker 2: He feels like an amazing last piece to fit in here.

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Speaker 2: Let's just do just for the sake of Sarez. It's

449
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Speaker 2: one of those two. Suarez to me feels like a

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Speaker 2: met I've been saying that now for like a week

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Speaker 2: or two, Like that's to me, he's a guy that

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Speaker 2: you can kind of make him and Hori Planco do

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Speaker 2: the same thing like first in DH, like whoever throws

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Speaker 2: up a spring training and is better at this first

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Speaker 2: base thing, whoever's is quicker you could you can now

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Speaker 2: play it.

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Speaker 1: And then whoever's not DH is also like in a pinch,

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Speaker 1: he's he's probably still a better third baseman than Mark

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Speaker 1: Viento's if you really needed to.

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Speaker 2: Don't don't don't be meet to Suarez said some great

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Speaker 2: seasons people like short step four years ago.

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Speaker 1: For the right and then second base like again, if

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Speaker 1: you needed to, Horri Poluncle could play second. He also

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Speaker 1: could play third again if you really needed them to

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Speaker 1: show and Jeff McNeil is still on the roster for

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Speaker 1: better or worse, give me Au Janeo Swaz that will

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Speaker 1: be our fourth move. That's our last Robert. But just

468
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Speaker 1: know in my heart I still want Louis Robert. I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming we're going to get another ro Beart questions, so

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Speaker 1: let's 's keep it moving. Let's find one, all right,

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Speaker 1: Let's go with this next one from Shannon Marcanna enthusiast.

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Speaker 1: With every passing day, I think there's less and less

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Speaker 1: of a chance we trade our main pitching prospects we

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Speaker 1: could realistically get with at we could realistically get without

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Speaker 1: any of them included, or who could we get. I

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Speaker 1: can't read, it's so late in the day. Also, want

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Speaker 1: to know your favorite Mets game you've ever been to.

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Speaker 1: Mine was the twenty fifteen floor as walk off. Love

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Speaker 1: you guys, so I've had Let me think of my

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Speaker 1: favorite Mets game first, Yeah, I mean like the World

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Speaker 1: Series won for me in twenty fifteen, where the Mets

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Speaker 1: one was pretty unbelievable. Game five against the Phillies was great.

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Speaker 2: Also, Game five against the Dodgers was nice because it

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Speaker 2: kind of felt like we were dead and the team

485
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Speaker 2: just showed up and put up crazy runs in the

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Speaker 2: first two winnings and the Temptations performed pre game.

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Speaker 1: That was really nice.

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Speaker 2: But like going past that, the game that David Wright

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Speaker 2: hit the walk off of Mariano in two thousand and six,

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Speaker 2: that was like a it was a symbolic moment for

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Speaker 2: the draft.

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Speaker 1: That game. I was at that game ten year old

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Speaker 1: James to go.

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Speaker 2: I was like watching that happen, like watching that comeback

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Speaker 2: in the ninth inning and like that when David Wright

496
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Speaker 2: was becoming David Wright, and like that was my guy.

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Speaker 2: And I was sitting the old Shay in the four

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Speaker 2: hundreds the mezzanine behind home plate, so like the perfect

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Speaker 2: view of like a flyball going over the center fielders

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Speaker 2: head and I was just like, oh my god, but

501
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Speaker 2: that was pretty sick.

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Speaker 1: And I think that was my favorites Luiski or my

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Speaker 1: home run against the Nationals too, just a rand. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're both at not really friends at the time. We

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Speaker 1: weren't hanging out, which is funny. And Luiski or may

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Speaker 1: home run against what was it, Fernando Rodney, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: After so though hit the home run the ending before

508
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Speaker 2: taking against the Mets, which is funny think about. But

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Speaker 2: Channon's real question less of a chance we trade the

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Speaker 2: main pitching prospect prospects who could realistically get without any

511
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Speaker 2: of them included, it's gonna be ugly. I think it

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Speaker 2: goes back to like again Paveda, he's the one because

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Speaker 2: he's expensive and he's definitely a mid rotation guy. Like

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Speaker 2: I don't know, we're seeing right now the white some

515
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Speaker 2: of these trades for bats are going Like the fact

516
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Speaker 2: that Richard Fitz and Hunter Dobbins from the Red Sox

517
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Speaker 2: got moved for pretty legit pieces shows the value of young, controllable,

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Speaker 2: back end starter types. So I do think that just

519
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Speaker 2: it's going through hard to trade for a guy like

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Speaker 2: who's who's really a seller in Major.

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Speaker 1: League basebar and now that actually has something to sell.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm looking at the Angels, like do you want

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Speaker 1: anybody on that team? What do you think is Ryan

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Speaker 1: Peppio attainable? I mean they they said that his name

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Speaker 1: was floated in the yeah with Kente marteinne. I think

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Speaker 1: also the Orioles were trying to get Peppio, but bos

527
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Speaker 1: was the best that they were getting offered back.

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Speaker 2: It seemed like Jeff passed now the Freudian sleep. If

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Speaker 2: any guys were watching the coverage after the Shamee Boz

530
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Speaker 2: Orioles trade on Friday, he accidentally mentioned Ryan Clifford's name.

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Speaker 2: That made me think that the Mets might have been

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Speaker 2: talking about Shane Boz and like Ryan Clifford was part

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Speaker 2: of their package to them.

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Speaker 1: But like I also I wonder if Drew Rasmussin's available,

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Speaker 1: He's been great, like since coming back from injury. But

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Speaker 1: he's like that he's so scary. Oh yeah, there's he

537
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Speaker 1: could sleep funny and that's the end of his career.

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Speaker 1: Mackenzie Gore, But I think he still would cost a bunch.

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Speaker 1: I think that look what, look what Shane Bo's got.

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Speaker 1: Mackenzie Gore is better than him.

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Speaker 3: Is he?

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Speaker 2: I guess Shane boss last year on the road was

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Speaker 2: like a top thirty picture top.

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Speaker 1: I still think Mackenzie Gore is probably better. I like

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Speaker 1: them both. I also think that it's important with.

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Speaker 2: This trio, and it's Tom McLain Sprote that Spros just

547
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Speaker 2: not on par with the other guys. Like Sprote is

548
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Speaker 2: a good prospect, the other guys are great prospects. McLain's

549
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Speaker 2: just a great picture. Tom's a great prospects sprot it's

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Speaker 2: a good prospect. I think that if you ask some

551
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Speaker 2: people in the Mets front office right now, they might

552
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Speaker 2: tell you that they preferred Will Watson to Brandon Sprote. Honestly, god,

553
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Speaker 2: same with possibly Jack Wendry. If you twisted somebody's arm

554
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Speaker 2: like he's I think that he's kind of divisive right now.

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Speaker 1: He to me is likely to be traded.

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Speaker 2: But I think you can create a package for a

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Speaker 2: guy like Pepio around guys like Watson, Santucci, Ryan Clifford,

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Speaker 2: things like that.

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Speaker 1: Nature. Yeah, I'm trying to see if there's like any

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Speaker 1: other guy that could be interesting on this team. I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: could you could.

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Speaker 2: You steal the Dolo from the Reds if you gave

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Speaker 2: the major league stuff back? The Reds have good pitching depth,

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Speaker 2: they're low the Mets.

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Speaker 1: Like, but that would actually know that doesn't hurt the

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Speaker 1: Mets because we're not trying to give up one of

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Speaker 1: these pitching prospects. So Brett, maybe that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you give Maybe this is like Ryan Clifford.

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Speaker 2: Like where where's the Reds have? Reds have just so

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Speaker 2: many corner guys in that team, but they're bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like where who would really want Jet? Like who wants

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Speaker 2: someone that defensively can play shortstop? But you still question

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Speaker 2: where the bat winds up at the major.

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Speaker 1: Leagues defensively play shortstop, you wonder where the bat winds up.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: The Guardians, I mean everyone, the Guardians, that's kind of

577
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Speaker 2: exactly what they do. The Tigers, what would the Tiger

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Speaker 2: could we get but then we come back to school.

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Speaker 1: There and it's not that's not going to happen, seems

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Speaker 1: like anymore. I don't I really Resulson is he available?

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Speaker 1: I would take a shot on res I bet you

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Speaker 1: Jack Clarty's available, my.

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Speaker 2: Fucking guy right there, But no results is my command, king.

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Speaker 2: I just I do wonder where that. It's just this

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Speaker 2: market trademarket seems weird right now, like that those bas

586
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Speaker 2: and low trades back to back, loud trades back to back.

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Speaker 2: On Friday, I was like, WHOA like to pop the

588
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Speaker 2: live off? But it's hard to find Mattress. I think

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Speaker 2: I'll come back to Pepio. I think Pepio is a

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Speaker 2: guy that probably is attainable, and I do like him

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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think he's.

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Speaker 2: A bona fide major League three with even a hint

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Speaker 2: of upside. He could start in a playoff series. I

595
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Speaker 2: wouldn't feel bad about that, and you probably can get him.

596
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Speaker 2: But like with the slew of our back end top

597
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Speaker 2: one hundred guys like the Watson, the the Clifford, possibly

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Speaker 2: a jet like someone like that.

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Speaker 1: I also just like I'm gonna say something crazy. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, just going to the year with the rotation.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what we got. Okay, Well, that's that's good.

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Speaker 2: I saw someone have this question, so I'm gonna find

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Speaker 2: it right now and then say it.

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Speaker 1: I'm scrolling scrolls like I'm grolling. I'm so ready to

605
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Speaker 1: plant my flag, and like everyone's like, Mets need an ace.

606
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Speaker 1: An ace always helps. I'm not saying no, we got

607
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Speaker 1: our race already. Hear this.

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Speaker 2: I got the question right here from Nick ob six

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Speaker 2: to one oh three. How would you guys feel if

610
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Speaker 2: we went to the season was basically the rotation depth

611
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Speaker 2: we have now more of a quantity over quality approach.

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Speaker 2: We kind of hinted at this the beginning of the

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Speaker 2: off season that this felt possible, and I think the

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Speaker 2: main reason is that we just have a lot of

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Speaker 2: pictures under contract right now. It seemed like the only

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Speaker 2: way to get the meaningful addition towards the top of

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Speaker 2: the rotation was to send.

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Speaker 1: A guy out to create space.

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Speaker 2: So we want to leave space for these these prospects

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Speaker 2: come up over the next year and two. So like

621
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Speaker 2: with McLean, Peterson, Holmes, Manaiah Sanga, at this exact moment

622
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Speaker 2: with Tong and Sprote ready to go and with again

623
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Speaker 2: Wender and Watson not super far behind like you.

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Speaker 1: And Christian Scott and Christian Scott and even Cooper Chris Well.

625
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Speaker 2: Like as the swing man likes. It's disgusting, that is

626
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Speaker 2: to say like this, it's hard to figure out who

627
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Speaker 2: leaves if someone arrives. And we also we have so

628
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Speaker 2: many off days. Have got again, you guys are getting

629
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Speaker 2: ready for my annual schedule rantom the same half way

630
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Speaker 2: usually January February. We have three coast trips in the

631
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Speaker 2: first like nine weeks of the season. It's insane, which

632
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Speaker 2: is so ass backwards.

633
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Speaker 1: Pisses me off so much.

634
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Speaker 2: But with that, we have tons off days both days

635
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Speaker 2: with schedule until June. Like, I don't even think we

636
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Speaker 2: need to start the guy on a fifth day until

637
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Speaker 2: the middle of June. I was looking at the other day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they like no one's everyone's gonna scream and yell

639
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: at me. But I just don't see a realistic way

640
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Speaker 1: right now where this Mets rotation actually gets any sort

641
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Speaker 1: of better. And I'll see people be like, we should

642
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Speaker 1: go sign like some of those like back end starters

643
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Speaker 1: that are just like total like like whatever Bassett Martinez

644
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Speaker 1: like that. Then I'm like, why, Like what do we

645
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Speaker 1: need Nick Martinez and Chris Bassett for? Like Sean and

646
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Speaker 1: I have stunk last year. We know what part of

647
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Speaker 1: the reason why I'm down. We gotta see what he's got.

648
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Speaker 1: He's here for another two years, guys, Like, he's not

649
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Speaker 1: going anywhere code I stunk at the end of the year,

650
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: but he's He's shown his flashes. I'm not trying to

651
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: convince people that this rotation is good. I'll never do that.

652
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: This is not a good rotation. I won't feel that.

653
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: But I don't know, Like Nick Martinez is gonna make you,

654
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: guys feel better. You want to bring Chris Basset back,

655
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: who shipped down his leg in the biggest game for

656
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 1: the Mets in his career.

657
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: Like Chris Bassil looked great this year moving to a

658
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 2: ball Yeah, he got starter, but he was also the

659
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: same like classic regular season Chris Bassic guy last the

660
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: thing the Mets were missing last year, like was that

661
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: meat potato?

662
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 1: Sure, but regular season starter. They might just they might

663
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: just be the entire rotation. Yeah again, they might be.

664
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: I think last year the rotation was abysmal and abominable,

665
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 2: but we also got like worst case scenario outcomes every

666
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: half of them, basically everyone besides Clay Holmes. In like

667
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 2: first three months of the year, David Peterson was David.

668
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: Peterson going into September, I think had a three to

669
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: one e R and it finished at four to two.

670
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: Like he couldn't have pitched worst the last month.

671
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: No, I was I'm again, I'm doing I'm on they

672
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 2: my personal choum and have video coming out about the

673
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 2: Mets situation right now. And I was looking at like

674
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: early season Dave Peterson.

675
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: Like what the was so good? And I was like,

676
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: had that happened?

677
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 2: But it's just I do think that with every passing

678
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: day there's a much greater chance of that and I

679
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 2: won't feel great about it, but I also won't feel

680
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: as a rule about it. I think is the average

681
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: Mets fan truthfully, because I'm that same both because there's

682
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 2: there's wicked upside on McLain and Tongue and and today

683
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: sanga next year it really is on those three guys,

684
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: and like.

685
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: Christian Scott, we could see what he's got, Britain sprote

686
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: as okay as he was last year. Like again, you

687
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: might just close youize and be like, oh, it's it's

688
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: Chris Ascid, Like why can't he be Chris Bassett.

689
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's probably needs like nine more pitches

690
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: to do it, but I think sure, I know, yeah,

691
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 2: with every passing day it gets a little.

692
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: Or Nick Martinez, why can't he be Nick Martinez? Like

693
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: Nick Martinez too, Like I really don't have I don't know,

694
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: you want to pay that guy us currency? Like I

695
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: don't not.

696
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: Really that kind of feels like we have Nick Martinez

697
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: at home with some of these prospects.

698
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: I really just don't know. Also, people are underselling Clay Holmes.

699
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: Just keep that, always undersell Clay Holmes.

700
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: I think so Clay Holmes also, like I'm hoping that

701
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: Clay Holmes pitch is better this year because the second

702
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 2: year in the rotation, he also just way out ran

703
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,239
Speaker 2: all of his like underlying stats last year.

704
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of good and bad with Clay Holmes.

705
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: Where I don't know, there probably is a world where

706
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: if something happens with Clay Hoolmes next year, like he

707
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: could be back in the bullpen at some points, depending

708
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 2: on if we add another reliever.

709
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: There's also world with Clay Homes could actually take a

710
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: step forward across.

711
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: The board, like there's team Clay Holmes tm USA, play Homes,

712
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: sneak event tm USA, Nolan McLain like sneaky, very wide

713
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 2: range of outcomes on Clay Holmes.

714
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: And I'm also just obsessed with Nolan McLean So yeah,

715
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: I think kind of rightfully so like Nolan McLain is

716
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 1: top top picture in baseball, top thirty around that he's

717
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: a freak of nature. All right, let's find another question

718
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 1: to talk about here. Which one did you just read, James?

719
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Speaker 1: Who is that from? That was from Nick ob Okay,

720
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Oh, that's another pitching one. Man.

721
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: A lot of these are all about the young pitchers.

722
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: I have a good one that we're good from the discord.

723
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: I could read it, all right.

724
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: This is from this smart guy, Michael Morgan, who right

725
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: now is a Jorrie Palanco truther. Who are the three

726
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: prospects most most likely to help the big league club

727
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: next year that haven't debuted yet or are not considered

728
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: mainstream So no Carson, benjellout.

729
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: And this is probably a little precursor because.

730
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Speaker 2: We're gonna do our top ten prospects either Christmas Day

731
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: or Boxing Day.

732
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: This week, So Boxing Day's cramzy.

733
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: I got the acknowledge Boxing Day all right, I will say,

734
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: is is Ryan Clifford mainstream? I think Ran Cliffords getting mainstream,

735
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: but I'm happy to give Ryan Clifford some love in

736
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: this segment.

737
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: There's a world of the Clifford's up next year playing

738
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: first base by like June, I think there's totally a

739
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: world if he just comes out and the play discipline

740
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: is incredible. We know he makes good swing decisions. He

741
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: swings and misses a bit, but like the eggs of

742
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: veelos are crazy. If he just rakes and triple a

743
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: the first two months and the Mets are kind of

744
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: still wishy washy at first base, DH, why not? Definitely?

745
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: He Also the only thing why not is because we've

746
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: just seen how reluctant the Mets are with the forty

747
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: man roster clocks, and I think he has another year,

748
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: if I want to say correctly, because he was twenty

749
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: twenty two draft pick.

750
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: I'll double check on that right now.

751
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: But I think I don't think the baseball world's kind

752
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: of acknowledging how amazing Clifford's been aged to level like

753
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: he was just twenty one years old in triple A,

754
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: like that's really rare to do, and he made again.

755
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: He was very passive, but like the power's crazy legit.

756
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: The swing decisions are crazy legit, Like he's, oh, he

757
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: has me in the forty man by the end of

758
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: this next season. Anyways, maybe he's a guy that can

759
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,479
Speaker 2: I think also another one like this guy's moving up

760
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: like a rocket.

761
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if next year is the year. I

762
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: think it's probably the year after.

763
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: But I just wanted to again mention aj Ewing yep,

764
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: like I think we helped put him on some of

765
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: your guys radars, our mid season top ten where I

766
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: think he likes snuck into my top five just because

767
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: it seems like it seems like he's a freak defensively

768
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: in center field and a good enough hither to be

769
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: like at least like a league average with some helium

770
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: on that.

771
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: Like he he's.

772
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: Hit the ball relatively hard, he pulls the ball a lot,

773
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: the swing decisions look good. He looks like a good,

774
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: rock solid major leaguer type.

775
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: I want to give some shine to our boy, Ryan Lambert.

776
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: I think I think that's I would be shocked if

777
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: Ryan Lambert's on the major league roster at some point

778
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: by June this year. I truly would be surprised. He

779
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: just he has all the stuff. I guess we just

780
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: need to see what that fastball is gonna look like

781
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: at Triple A a little more consistently, but like he's got

782
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: to turn out the command still for sure. But the

783
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: stuff he throws one hundred in two that's gonna play.

784
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: Put it near the zone, it's gonna play. No, it's yeah,

785
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: it's pretty amazing.

786
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: And he goes to put Dylan Ross in that same

787
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 2: group because Dylan Ross is on the forty. The man,

788
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: Dylan Ross will be a part of the Major League

789
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: ballpeny consideration this year.

790
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: He's gonna be one of the up and down guys

791
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: all year.

792
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that it's good to have our

793
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: up and down guy throw a hundred but not know

794
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 2: where it's going, like those guys throwing one hundred but

795
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: having some command issues.

796
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: That's what we want from up and down type guys.

797
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: I also want to just give another quick shout Jonathan Pinaro.

798
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: I think that we got a bad little taste of

799
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: him last year, but there's exciting stuff for him. It's

800
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: a fun arm slot and good breaking balls that play

801
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: off of fastball. There's there's a world where Jonathan Pinaro

802
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: kind of is. There's gonna be gross, like a better

803
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: version of what Brandon Waddell was this year where you

804
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: give you can give Bintaro some spot starts when the

805
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: rotation feels a little bit thin and you start to

806
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: get you start to get some like a little bit

807
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: of excitement.

808
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: I think.

809
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: Also if DH is open, like I think Jacob Brimer

810
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: is also interesting, like he has to be added to

811
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: the forty man by the end of next year. Anyway,

812
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: we have some great batt of ball data on him,

813
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: like he's a a big, strong young man fan of

814
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: the draft neck Mark channel, Like he's he's someone there

815
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: should be some excitement about.

816
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: I also keeping EyeT On Douglas was Oreana or I

817
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: believe is his last name. Twenty three year old. He's

818
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: been in the bullpen and last year he got to

819
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: triple A. The numbers weren't great, but he throws like

820
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: ninety six ninety seven. That's always something I'm interested to

821
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: take a look at.

822
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: No, definitely, he's had some good some good uh pitch

823
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: stuff grades too.

824
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to another question here ooh, I

825
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: like this After a variety of David Stern's offseason so far,

826
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: what would you say is the look ahead plan to

827
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,239
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven? Besides going in on school ball, is

828
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: there a like interest elsewhere?

829
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: Lexiar's free agent class is a bit weak. It's bad,

830
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: It's pretty bad besides schoolble. But I also think that

831
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: I think that we're gonna go for lack of a

832
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: bether turn balls to the wall for Trek Scooble. Yeah,

833
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: like we might be doing something this year. And I

834
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: never want to draw one to on comparisons, But do

835
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: you remember the Dodgers twenty twenty three offseason before Otania

836
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: and Yamo though, off the top of my head, no,

837
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: they let everybody go. They let trade turn a walk

838
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: right after they left Corey seeger walk. They didn't re

839
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: sign any of the guys who've been there for a minute.

840
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: They shave down their payroll heavily after getting swept in

841
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: the NLDS by the Padres and then that eff I

842
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: think that was no, that was three one Padres. And

843
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: then the twenty twenty three season they got swept by

844
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: the diamond Back. Yes, yes, and that year they gave

845
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: like two thousand play appearances to like James Outman, Jason Hayward,

846
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: Miguel Vargas, like it was a David Peralta. It was

847
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: an unbelievably mid Dodgers team relative to the Dodgers, and

848
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: then next year they're like, we're gonna spend a billion dollars.

849
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: So I do think that seeing.

850
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: Schooble out there, I think he's the unicorn where you

851
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: give him all the money in the world because he

852
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: just might be the greatest pitcher on earth. For like

853
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: he signing him to a ten year deal with thirty

854
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: kind of to me feels a little bit like the

855
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: the shurs Or contract he got for the Nationals, where, yeah,

856
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: I think that's just when it's worth it, like that Tigers,

857
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: it gets good. It was just funny, but it's like

858
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: ten for three fifty highest paid pitcher ever, just to

859
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: give him come to be special.

860
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: Some context of who the possible free agents will be

861
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: in the next drap in the next offseason, Anthony Rendone

862
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: technically could be one of the guys Michael King if

863
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: he opts out Kevin he's getting thirty two million dollars.

864
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: Though if he opts in, so just again, keep that

865
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: in mind, George Springer, Robbie Right, Derek Scougle, Brandon Woodruff,

866
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: Kevin Gosman, Chris Sale, Jose Barrios if he opts out,

867
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: but I can't imagine he will because he's getting again money. Uh,

868
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: Jamison ty One, your favorite boy, Jack Flaherty opt out.

869
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: I do like Saya. I like Saya, say someone I

870
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 1: would circle as a like possible DH option.

871
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: I would also love like a Chris Sale contract like

872
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: the one we gave Schurzer. Yeah, that to me, I

873
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: like a lot.

874
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: But is a free agent as well. He's a kind

875
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: of fun ish one. It's it's next year's.

876
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,479
Speaker 2: Free agent classes, not one to like, you know, save

877
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: all your assets for, which is kind of.

878
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: Why I think what jazz chism free agent.

879
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 2: Jazz would be fun to have on this team. Again,

880
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 2: we've talked about Paveda like it's again, when he's got

881
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: the club option, what are they gonna pick it up?

882
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: Hey?

883
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: Hey, Seusse Lazardo is going to be the guy that

884
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 2: is like talked about as like a premier free agent

885
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: next year, Like I mean, if the Marlins don't pick

886
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: up twenty million dollars option for Sandy.

887
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: Which I'm sure they will.

888
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: But like it's again, like it's not a good Nico

889
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: Horner would be a fascinating free agent next year. Like

890
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: it's not again it's not a very good class, but

891
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: like you have the jewel to the top, which your

892
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: school boy, David Peterson.

893
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: Let's see, you gotta bring him back. Well, they bring

894
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: David Peterson back?

895
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 3: Yes?

896
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: Or no?

897
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,959
Speaker 1: Probably not? Yeah, I don't think so. I think they're

898
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: just because we have so much it would have to

899
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: be such a crazier where David Peterson does something, you

900
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: get so much better, and every pitching prospect looks way

901
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: worse than we ever expected.

902
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: Or it's the opposite, David Peterson just again doesn't take

903
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: a step forward. You're bringing back like one for twelve

904
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 2: just to maintain status quo.

905
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: All right, I got another one.

906
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: I gotta go in from the discord here from not

907
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 2: Swiss between starting pitcher, first base, center field, and left field,

908
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: what positional vacancy are you the most concerned about, if

909
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: not filled via traded free agency by opening day?

910
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: My pick is easily one of the outfield positions, and

911
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 1: probably left field more just because between left and center,

912
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: like you kind of mentioned, you can still kind of

913
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: get some value out of center field just by having

914
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: an elite glove out there. And yeah, in the worst

915
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: way possible. If it's Tyrone Taylor and Carson Bench platooning, like,

916
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: I think that's probably gonna still be fine. It's gonna

917
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: be okay. You get good defense and then probably better

918
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: hitting with Carson Bench is there. But if we like

919
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,479
Speaker 1: go into the season with like an Austin Hayes type

920
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: in left field, like I'm gonna be I'm gonna be

921
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: violently depressed.

922
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that, especially because I think we're

923
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 2: all very hopeful and very confident in Carson Bench. But

924
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 2: also when he got to Triple A last year, he

925
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: wasn't tremendous, Like a lot of the underlying stuff was

926
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: quite good. Like he was still hitting the ball hard,

927
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 2: and he wasn't striking out. I mean, he was striking

928
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: out a good bit, but was taking his walk swing

929
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: decisions were good. But it's just like I would like

930
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: Carson Bench to play more baseball at Triple A than

931
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: hitting one seventy eight for a month, even though again

932
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: we know the underlying stuff is good.

933
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: We're very confident in Carson Bench. If he has to

934
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 1: be her opening day.

935
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: But I don't want to make it like he has

936
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: to be here out opening day, Like I want him

937
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: to have to earn that spot, Like I don't want

938
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: a bad spring train and Carson bench after a bad

939
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 2: month of triple a Carson Bench to be the opening

940
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: day left fielder.

941
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: That's like, that's just a lot of pressure for the

942
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: young man. So is outfield your spot too? Yeah?

943
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: I think that fields my spots. I'm I'm confident we

944
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: can make shit for a space at this point. Like

945
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: I'm confident Horie Polanco is a bad and I think

946
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 2: that we probably do sign and Okamoda or Ryan O'Hearn.

947
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably good chance. Yeah, yay, it's probably the one.

948
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: But like outfield is where you want some more punch,

949
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 2: Like we we feel like we felt like we traded

950
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: Brandon Nimo to open up a spot to get some

951
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: more punch.

952
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: I want to actually get some punch. I got a

953
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: good one here from Ethan Briggs. If you had truth

954
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: serum and can ask one question to Cohen, Sterns and

955
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: Carlos Mendoza, what would it be? I like that that's

956
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: a fun one. Wow, Steve Cohen, first question, did you

957
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: buy the Mets just for the Casino's my first question.

958
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: That's my first question. First question. Do you like the

959
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: mess Yankees when you're growing up here? For real?

960
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: But I think that's a fair one for Steve Cohen.

961
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: I think another one for Steve Cohen would be like,

962
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 2: what was the post article that major freak out on

963
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 2: Tweter the other day? I'd like, I'd like to know

964
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 2: that one.

965
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: I'll throw another one out there too. How involved are

966
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: you in the decision making? Can tell me? Tell me

967
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: how involved you are in what players come in and

968
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: out of this organization. If we have all three in

969
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: the room, I would ask that to the board.

970
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: With this year, I'm like, I want to know, like

971
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: last year between Stearns and those like, why was Mark

972
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 2: Fianto's playing so much defense?

973
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

974
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: Like why did it like did it take until the

975
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 2: second to last day of the year to kind of say,

976
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: like be really mad publicly about how bad he was

977
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: from us because me and you saw Marciento's play third

978
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 2: base years ago, Like it's not gonna work there, guys,

979
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: there's no shot. And you were even being nice and

980
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 2: like maybe he could work on this offseason and get better,

981
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: and then you saw what an off season of work

982
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: did and you were like, you can't play it.

983
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: That's not a position for him. No, which again is fine.

984
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: Again maybe maybe could do it again, like maybe a lot,

985
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: there's more hard work to be done. I will never

986
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 2: like count a player out in general, but like that

987
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: would be and what's some other truth see him for

988
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 2: David Starr, David Stearns, how badly did you want to

989
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: trade Brandon Emo?

990
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 3: Yeah?

991
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: Like be like, was that actually the off season priority

992
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: was getting out from under that contract?

993
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one. I like that. Another one

994
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 1: I would want to ask them as well, what trades

995
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: almost happened that didn't happen?

996
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think part of it would be like, how

997
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: of these trades that were made, what was our comparable package?

998
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: Where did you go? Like was there bidding that their changing?

999
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: I felt I still do feel like the Contreras thing,

1000
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: he got traded for much more than I expected beginning

1001
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: the off season. Yes, was that a case where with

1002
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: maybe us first of them for the last two weeks

1003
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: and the rest I just did it. It was spiral like mess,

1004
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 2: We're not going over that, Like that's possible.

1005
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: Carlos Mendoza, I'd ask him what did Eric Chaves do

1006
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: last year? What was his job? I would ask him

1007
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: why Korea was the first ballpen guy used that. That's

1008
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 1: a good one. Break, Yeah, a really good one. I'd

1009
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: also say, why did Paul Blackburn come come in against

1010
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 1: the Rays in the middle of June for no reason?

1011
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: That's a good one, I'd say. I'd say, what's your

1012
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 1: relationship with Adam Anavino? Like, that's a good one. I'd

1013
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: like that one.

1014
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: I've I've done so well to like compartmentalize everything that happened,

1015
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: like game decisions whise last season, to the point where

1016
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 2: I can't recall like the individual plays anymore.

1017
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: They actually what was our boy was a star? About

1018
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: their base coach? Jesus, who you think about would you

1019
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: think about his sins and holds last year? Would you

1020
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: I think the the not sending Tyrone Taylors literally why

1021
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: we didn't make the playoffs just so everybody knows. I mean,

1022
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: it's one game here there anywhere. I think those were

1023
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: That was a good question. That is a good question

1024
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: from Ethan. And then I I do have I think

1025
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: a good ender. Right, We're I had a good spot

1026
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: forty minutes here, I we could get, well, probably two

1027
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: more we have We've only answered like five. I know,

1028
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: but that's that's the you pick one from the discord again. Okay, Well,

1029
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: because I've got I've got mine circled for the last

1030
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: question I got.

1031
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: Let's see how scroll we'll say, Oh, do you want

1032
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: that one to be the last question?

1033
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be the last question. So if you

1034
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: have a couple of these, are your chance to rattle

1035
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: them off right now? Because there was a couple I

1036
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: want to rattle off real quick.

1037
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: I think these are good, but these are also quick answers.

1038
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 2: So we got here from Darth Bay, the good name nice.

1039
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 2: How many play appearances would you need before you got

1040
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: to hit off an average major league picture?

1041
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: And the answer is an infinity? No, I think I can.

1042
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: I think you could give me who's the average major

1043
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: league picture? Who was the most average major league pitcher?

1044
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: I mean, let's let's look. Let's see who's got like

1045
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: an e r A plus at a four four to

1046
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: one e r A last year. Let's see that. How

1047
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: do I find that number? You're a oh, they don't

1048
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: have RRA A plus on fangrafts. They do like a

1049
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: deep advanced like section I'll just I'll just find a

1050
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: four e R a guy.

1051
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, because last year league wide league average e RA

1052
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: was likeer won six Dean Kramer. Honestly, I think if

1053
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: you give me one hundred at bats, I was gonna

1054
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: give myself two hundred and fifty bats. Is there an

1055
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: in with a full team behind, because if they if

1056
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: there's defense chance.

1057
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: Let's what I said at the beginning of this, I think,

1058
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: I mean because I think we'll put the ball in play.

1059
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: I think we will. I have to.

1060
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 2: I have to get a breaking ball, and I have

1061
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: to lay that breaking ball, drop it over the second

1062
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: basement's head.

1063
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: And that's the only possible hit him. Geaint. Well that yeah,

1064
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 1: that's what I got in my game against the pickles.

1065
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, does the right fielder have the ability to

1066
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: play one hundred and twenty feet away? I'm not getting

1067
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: a hit? Yeah, Like if I put the ball in

1068
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: the air to the outfield, to right field, is that

1069
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: just a guaranteed hit? Like we don't we don't have

1070
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: to worry about me beating the throat.

1071
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: At first, It's like it's like a like a you know,

1072
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: playing backyard baseball hit where like you're playing with your friends,

1073
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: and a hit is like what you all considered to

1074
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: be a hit.

1075
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: Yes, I think I think if you gave me one

1076
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: hundred at bats, I could get one.

1077
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: I don't think I can get one hundred that bats

1078
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 2: like you. I would have to be sitting up there

1079
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: being like I know, with pitchers comming, because he might

1080
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: just be gassing ninety four the whole time, like, oh yeah, Christ,

1081
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 2: this is hard.

1082
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: I would I would just like to think one hundred

1083
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: at bats I could, I could maybe sneak one against

1084
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: Dean Kramer. But also at the same time, maybe probably

1085
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: not No.

1086
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: Two hundred that bad's minimum, and I think probably actually

1087
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: never catch eighteen.

1088
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: Year old Mark. I feel a lot more confident, oh,

1089
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: nearly thirty year old Mark, which could be tough.

1090
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: There was another one here, a good one from our

1091
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: boy Manny. It was with your true thoughts in the

1092
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: Jonahtan Grilled Cheese. If you guys haven't watched Helly said

1093
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: it before Nolan McClain's interviews on pitching Ninja just unbelievable stuff,

1094
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: like I love these guys, I'll go the war for them,

1095
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: I'll protect Jodah Tongue with my life. So just to

1096
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: let you guys know the Jonan Tong grilled cheese is

1097
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 2: butther pan butther both sides of the bread, a few

1098
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 2: pieces of marble cheese.

1099
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: And then Canadian maple syrup on the grilled cheese. And

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00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: this is what I'm gonna tell you, guys, shout out

1101
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: ya ya. I grew up with that. She would make

1102
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: me French toast every day when I was growing up.

1103
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: She'd like, you know, wash me while my parents went

1104
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: to work, and Yaya would make me French toast. And

1105
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: in that French toast in the middle of it because

1106
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: she would take like two pieces of white bread, dip

1107
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: them in the egg. Wouldever put a little sugar, cinnamon,

1108
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: whatever she did on there, slice the cheese in the middle,

1109
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: fry it up, put it on the plate an Jemima's

1110
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: maple syrup. That shit smacked sweet and salty. It's unbelievable.

1111
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: I recommend everyone tried. I stand with Jonah Tong. I

1112
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: might give the try just for John and Tong. And

1113
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: then one last quick one again from Sam. We've talked

1114
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: about this a little bit.

1115
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: We know that Sterns is not opportunists, which are the

1116
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: bigger free agents with underwhelming Marcus do you see the

1117
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: Mets possibly targeting towards the end of the off season.

1118
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: I think this is.

1119
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 2: Notable because the last few off seasons, we've just seen

1120
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: so many if a team wait is opportunistic, We've seen

1121
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: so many good players sign at.

1122
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: The end of the off season for nothing, and we

1123
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: saw when the Mets were not. When the Mets jumped

1124
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:28,959
Speaker 1: the gun last year, it was one of the worst

1125
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: moves you could ever made, one hundred percent.

1126
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: But that's how we ruined the off season basically like

1127
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: the last few years, like we've had Matt Chapman, Bregman, Snell,

1128
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: Pete Ta, Oscar Nandez Paveta, Bellinger like cheap ass contracts

1129
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 2: in February.

1130
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: And March mag if the Mets just waited on Sean

1131
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: and Iah, yeah.

1132
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it seems like Sean and I would

1133
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: have got signed last year though, which also would not

1134
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 2: have been the worst thing. But I think that Frambour

1135
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: and Bellinger are the ones that very immediately comes to

1136
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: my mind, and probably Zach Gallan because of that qualifying offer.

1137
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: Fair. Yeah, I Framber's my pick. That's because just continue

1138
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: to be my pick. I still I still weirdly think

1139
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: he's just gonna be a Met by the end of

1140
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: the offseason.

1141
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if I think if Bellinger takes another

1142
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: three year deal, I think he'll be a Met as well.

1143
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: And his market seems kind of dead. Does that report

1144
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: real what he wants? No, Scott Bors came out so

1145
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: that it was fake. Oh okay, okay, Yeah, I was like,

1146
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: which is I mean, Cody Bellinger would have CT if

1147
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: that was the case. No, I think. I mean Cody

1148
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 1: Belner three times.

1149
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: In the last five off seasons has gone through the

1150
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: off season without getting the contract he wanted. I don't

1151
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: know why after this year with poor bad ball metrics,

1152
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: and now he'll get it.

1153
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: Can I throw a fun one at you before we

1154
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: give you last question? Oh? Yeah, Alex Bregman. Yeah, I mean,

1155
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: I guess.

1156
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: I just I think that I think this team would

1157
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: be reluctant to go off baby, But I don't think

1158
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: Baty would stop them from getting Bregman. No, they we

1159
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 2: know there was at least some interest in Bregman last year. Yeah,

1160
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 2: and his mark would have to create it. But I

1161
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: think if if his market crater's like the Red Sox was,

1162
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: just give him the same offer we give him He'll

1163
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 2: just picked a.

1164
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: Fair back there. Yeah, I think that's fair. I just

1165
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: want to things out there. Last question, this comes from

1166
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: s O on Twitter. He says, how much trust slash

1167
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: faith do you guys have in the front office. I

1168
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: think that's a good one to end it with as

1169
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: it going, and on what are we doing?

1170
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: Like one to ten's you were twe hundred, yeah, zero

1171
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: to one hundred. I think I'm still in the eighties.

1172
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say I'm I'm like low seventies right now.

1173
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 2: Just give me seventy percent.

1174
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: I still believe that they know what they're doing, but

1175
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: I've dropped in the full blind faith because last year

1176
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: sucked and I selfishly I don't know what's going on.

1177
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: To stroke my own ego here, I have no clue

1178
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: what's going on. Yeah, the day after the one solo contract,

1179
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: I was one hundred and fifty. Yeah, three hundred. You

1180
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: could told me like it doesn't matter what happens over

1181
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: the next two years. We got WATSO and I'd be like, sure, deal,

1182
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: sign me up. And then now that it last year sucked,

1183
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: is like, ah shit, what happened?

1184
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: I am just I'm just so confident in where the

1185
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: farm system is right now, and I think that's kind

1186
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: of grounding me and keeping me very high, like the

1187
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: way that as bad as the major league team was

1188
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: last year, like our fucking minor league teams crushed. Yeah,

1189
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: these players got good, like we got we got reports

1190
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 2: that Mitch Voyd might be a plus defensive shortstop right

1191
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: now when they had a big light kick on him,

1192
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 2: like he might be a dude, like well, Watston looks

1193
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: sick whenser looks sick, like these are a back end

1194
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 2: hundred guys, Hey, look, this is not something we've ever

1195
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: been able to enjoy as Mets fans, positive player development processes.

1196
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 1: I mean, just think about like when we were like kids.

1197
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: It was like Craig Brazil. I remember hearing about him

1198
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: and Eddie Kuhns forever, and like those guys don't even

1199
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: think sniffed more than like ten total appearances at the

1200
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: major league level.

1201
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: When we were kids, Like we'd hold we'd grab one prospect,

1202
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 2: hold on them for dear life because we know when

1203
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 2: we were ever going to get another. Nope, like that

1204
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: that's like kind of cool right now, Like Bench could

1205
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: walk in next year and be legit like Bench has

1206
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: are very good. Yeah, Bench's rookie could be like slightly

1207
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 2: above average defensive center field and like fifteen percent Betting

1208
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: League gaverage with the stick, and we have a couple

1209
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year like favorites arguably going into the season.

1210
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: Like there's a world where next year, Carson Bench, when

1211
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: you do twelve days of rankings next Christmas season could

1212
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: be like.

1213
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: A top seven centerfielder. Yeah, that will position super weak.

1214
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what I'm saying. If the top five

1215
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: and like a top ten like left fielder came to that, Yeah,

1216
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: I think there's a world where it's definitely possible based

1217
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: on what we've seen, But seventy percent confidence. I need

1218
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: to see a little bit more. It's not blind confidence anymore.

1219
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: But no, they still got to know more than me.

1220
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 1: That's why they're getting paid. Yeah, like in a vacuum,

1221
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: I understand what he's not.

1222
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 2: It's just it definitely hurts for all this stuff to happen,

1223
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: But I still I can really squint and still get

1224
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: it almost like all together.

1225
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: Is what makes it hurt really badly?

1226
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: Yes, but I understand conceptually why all of these are

1227
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: happening the way they are.

1228
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: Like if Pete a Lonzo left last last offseason. I

1229
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: feel a lot better than this offseason.

1230
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: A bit, just because that qualifying offros again, Like I think,

1231
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, no one else in the league was

1232
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 2: giving him five years besides yours.

1233
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: See us in the Red Sox, where the other two

1234
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: shooters were like maybe four yeah, twist five yeah five? Whatever? Gus. Oh,

1235
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: Frankie Peppers. Frankie Peppers is back. First of the off season.

1236
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: I had.

1237
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 2: I had to remind myself that in the replies to

1238
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 2: this suite, I almost forgot.

1239
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: Did he give us like an updated one or this

1240
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: is an older one?

1241
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 2: This is one that came in a week ago, last

1242
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: wedd This this past Wednesdays could be dated, it could

1243
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 2: be he told me it was pretty evergreen, And I

1244
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: feel like this might have some raw emotions after Pete Edwin.

1245
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: Especially so Eltier. Frankie Peppers. It out. Frankie Peppers. A

1246
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: lot of new a lot of new viewers too.

1247
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: Don't know, a lot of viewers learning about what Frankie

1248
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 2: Peppers is for the first time. You guys, you guys

1249
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 2: get the gist here, gentlemen.

1250
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: This is Frankie Peppers. It's been a wild voice. I

1251
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 3: hope that the wind has been treating you well. And

1252
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,479
Speaker 3: I know we've just been through a pretty rough week

1253
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 3: and a half two weeks or so, and it does

1254
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: seem like your boys are getting a little better. It

1255
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: seems like we're all thinking a little more rationally as

1256
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 3: time goes on and his more things happen. So I'm

1257
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 3: interested in seeing where this team goes. I I made

1258
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 3: some mid tonight. I believe that we learned that been

1259
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 3: Alonzo was singing with the Orioles, and the Mets haven't

1260
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 3: lost any other star players and have only signed good people,

1261
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: so I assume that that the luck is still there

1262
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 3: in some capacity. Will have to see about that. I

1263
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 3: hope you boys have a lovely like a Christmas quands

1264
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 3: if you celebrate that, I have a feeling it don't

1265
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 3: bestil In case you do. Happy Quans boys, and the

1266
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 3: happy New Year, and I'm looking forward to the beautiful year.

1267
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 3: The Mets up show you and your YouTube channel, The

1268
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 3: Wind up Show is also doing really well, and I'm

1269
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 3: really happy to see that. And I'm just very proud

1270
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 3: of you boys and very thankful for the company and

1271
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 3: the and all the good times you've given me. Gentlemen,

1272
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 3: It's been a pleasure. I will continue to be a pleasure.

1273
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 3: I'll talk to you soon.

1274
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: Musco, Mets, Frankie Peppers. I don't know how badly I

1275
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: needed that. I needed that.

1276
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: It made me feel real good and an organic wind

1277
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 2: up wind up plug from Frankie Peppers. If you guys

1278
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 2: didn't know Frankie Peppers, you always just got to make

1279
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 2: sure you know you trust the sauce.

1280
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: It's it's the end of the episodes. That's where it

1281
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: will get Frankie. That's when he shot. That's where his

1282
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: star shines brightest. And now it's a public bowlan yet,

1283
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 1: so maybe things will turn around for the Mets. Maybe

1284
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: tomorrow when you guys are hearing this. The Mets have

1285
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: made a big move. Who knows, well, listen, we'll find

1286
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: out if they did. We're also gonna be uploading on

1287
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: Mets Up, so make sure you're subscribe to the YouTube

1288
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 1: channel as well as the audio side Apple Podcast, Spotify,

1289
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: Google drops a rating, drops a review, download and subscribe.

1290
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: You can follow James on social media at James Ciano.

1291
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: I'm Draftneckmark. Thank you guys for watching. We'll catch you

1292
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: on the next one. Peace Out, peace Out, guys, let's

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Speaker 1: go Mets.