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Speaker 1: All right, it's way up with Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee,

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Speaker 1: and Jasmine from the Jasmine brand dot Com is here,

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Speaker 1: and Deborah Roberts is here with me, or should I

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Speaker 1: say New York Times bestselling author?

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Deborah Roberts is here, but you also know her as

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Speaker 1: being the ABC News senior National Affairs correspondent. Okay, and

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Speaker 1: thank you and welcome for coming to the show.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. I'm so thrilled too.

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Speaker 1: I said that wrong. Welcome and thank you for coming

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Speaker 1: to the show. Okay, I must be nervous.

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Speaker 3: We understood it. I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I was like, did I say that wrong?

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Speaker 3: I didn't even notice.

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Speaker 1: But lessons learned and cherish the teacher who changed my life.

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Speaker 1: You have put together this anthology. Is that what you

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Speaker 1: would call it?

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Speaker 3: I guess you could call it collection anthology? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yes, of different people talking about how teachers have affected

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Speaker 1: their lives. And I love that you did this.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 2: You and I talked about this last year when I

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Speaker 2: was still putting it together, and you liked the idea

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Speaker 2: at that point.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we were actually at the gala for Iberry Lions

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Speaker 1: Gala for the New York Public library. And at that time,

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Speaker 1: I remember you were even hesitant about coming out right

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Speaker 1: because your husband, I worker.

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Speaker 2: Was ill. And he was like, go, yes exactly. I

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Speaker 2: was trying to remember that you're absolutely right. That was

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Speaker 2: the first event that I stepped out into having gone

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Speaker 2: through this this major illness with all.

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Speaker 1: Right, and I see he's back walking again.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's walking. We had to get him up just going.

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Speaker 2: He was limping.

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Speaker 3: He got the knee replaced. Now he's walking better.

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Speaker 2: So now we hope he has parts of just been

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Speaker 2: changed out and we got a new model.

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Speaker 3: He's ready to go.

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Speaker 3: Of interior points, but other than that, he's good.

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Speaker 1: But that's good because I was like, she wasn't sure.

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Speaker 1: She was like, I don't want to leave, but he

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Speaker 3: Hovering is what he was saying. Let me have a moment.

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Speaker 1: And Deba, you're such an outdoors person too.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I love jogging.

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Speaker 2: I'm one of the few people when I'm out in

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Speaker 3: You want to hear. I want to hear. I want

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Speaker 3: to hear the birds.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear the horns talking. I want to

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Speaker 2: hear people talking, dogs barking. I want to hear the world. So, yes,

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Speaker 2: I am an outdoor person.

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Speaker 1: It's hard for me to run with out headphones on too,

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Speaker 4: But apparently for you, the sound.

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Speaker 3: But for me, you know what, I think. I meditate,

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Speaker 1: Now, let's get into some of your history, because we

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Speaker 1: learned a bit about you. And you know what's interesting

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Speaker 1: because even in the beginning of the book you talk

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Speaker 3: That long, certainly in the South, right, not that long.

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Speaker 2: When we desegregated schools. So I was in small town Georgia, Perry, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: It's funny that people will act like racism it's over,

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Speaker 1: But even if you think about it, it wasn't that

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Speaker 3: Too in these other schools. So it was it was

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about these teachers, because I feel like

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Speaker 1: when I was in elementary school, I remember going to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, otherwise you got to wait another arrest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you wait another year, And so I went to school.

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Speaker 1: And the first day I went to school and came

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Speaker 1: My teacher? And oddly enough I know her son now, right,

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Speaker 1: he's in the music business. My kindergarten teacher. She wasn't

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Speaker 3: When you were young too, you were four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm you scared to ask.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you probably also thought it was just this

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Speaker 3: It sounds so great.

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Speaker 2: And then you got there and you realized there were

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was. And then but I do you remember

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Speaker 1: the teachers that they stand up the most of me

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Speaker 4: And it's so many personalities in your class too. It's

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Speaker 2: But you you hit on a good point that I

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Speaker 3: Not every teacher is warm.

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Speaker 2: And fuzzy and cozy, And that is not what the

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Speaker 2: They weren't all saying, oh, I had the warmest, kindest

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Speaker 2: teacher was very tough. In fact, did something which today

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Speaker 2: And she was so excited and she missed a word,

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Speaker 2: Melody thinks that she has become the woman that she is,

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Speaker 3: And that's exactly right.

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Speaker 2: And I said to Al, I don't see that as

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Speaker 2: she was this really great educator, and she had a

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Speaker 2: So it wasn't necessarily the teacher probably trying to impart that,

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Speaker 1: I've had some great, great teachers that I will say that.

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Speaker 4: That's like people too, Like usually people that you kind

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Speaker 1: But you know, it can dictate what you do for

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Speaker 1: With these kids with these phones texting, write words out exact,

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Speaker 3: No, no, they definitely don't do that.

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Speaker 2: But Leela will text me and then if she misspells

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Speaker 1: That is amazing. She reconnected with him too.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm hearing those voices also, hear Michelle will

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Speaker 3: And you know, and you know, Cheryl is so expressive

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Speaker 2: And she turns it into something that's just trauma, the drama,

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Speaker 1: And it's perfect. She's, you know, a teacher on Abbed Elementary.

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Speaker 2: Oh, she talks about miss Canteen, who not only encouraged

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Speaker 2: financially helping her a little at ballet, Misty also had

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Speaker 2: a very chaotic, precarious home situation. And this teacher, Misty

444
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,240
Speaker 2: was dancing at like twelve or thirteen years old. Many

445
00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,560
Speaker 2: kids are in ballet at age three five, she was dancing,

446
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Speaker 2: and they were.

447
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Speaker 1: Mad that she was just walking on like you're the captain, and.

448
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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, but she was good and she was very

449
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Speaker 3: shy and quiet. People didn't know it.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I think she said her sister was even shocked,

451
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Speaker 2: like NIC's Misty because they called her mouth. She was

452
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Speaker 2: so quiet, but that was where she found her her

453
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Speaker 2: voice in dance, and missus Canteen encouraged that and they're

454
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Speaker 2: still friends to this day.

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Speaker 1: That's so amazing. One thing I like about this too

456
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Speaker 1: is I told you this when we were at the

457
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Speaker 1: library Lions galap But I wanted to be a teacher

458
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Speaker 1: at one point in my life. When I was in college,

459
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Speaker 1: I did urban education semester and so I was teaching

460
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Speaker 1: in Washington Heights and it was what I kind of

461
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Speaker 1: wanted to do because I think being able to affect

462
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Speaker 1: lives in that way is so important. The job that

463
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Speaker 1: teachers have is one of the most important jobs because

464
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Speaker 1: these kids today have so much to deal with. I

465
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Speaker 1: remember going to talk at this school, a charter school,

466
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Speaker 1: and they had to deal with social media and them

467
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Speaker 1: explaining to me, like why when one person writes this,

468
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Speaker 1: and I have to stick up for my friends so

469
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Speaker 1: I can't not get on there and defend this, and

470
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Speaker 1: then it turns into this whole big thing and then

471
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Speaker 1: it goes to school like we didn't have to grow

472
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Speaker 1: up thinking about those things at all. And you got

473
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Speaker 1: so tough.

474
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Speaker 2: If you got left out of the party, you found

475
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Speaker 2: out Monday, maybe somebody called you on Sunday, but you

476
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 2: found out Monday.

477
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Speaker 1: That just sucks.

478
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Speaker 2: And now it's in the moment, right, you know, they're

479
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Speaker 2: out there having a party and having fun or going

480
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Speaker 2: to whatever, and you're left out. So there are so

481
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Speaker 2: many more things that teachers have to deal with gun violence.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you know.

483
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Speaker 2: State legislatures that are now like dictating how they can

484
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Speaker 2: what you can teach.

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Speaker 3: So they're up against a lot more today than they

486
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Speaker 3: were I think when we were.

487
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Speaker 4: Growing sure, and they're not compa like they should be either,

488
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Speaker 4: right at all?

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Speaker 1: Right, do you remember since you brought what you can

490
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Speaker 1: teach in school? Right? Do you remember learning about like

491
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Speaker 1: Juneteenth or I never learned about that, growl. I think

492
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Speaker 1: I learned about that watching like Blackish and Blackish.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think for a lot of people.

494
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Speaker 4: I think when I left moved to DC, I heard

495
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Speaker 4: about it and I was like an adult at that

496
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Speaker 4: point when I but.

497
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Speaker 2: Not in school, right, right, we definitely didn't have the

498
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Speaker 2: black history you know text and me remember one week

499
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Speaker 2: out of the year you would have these autobiographies that

500
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Speaker 2: you talk about. But yes, but even more so though, Angela,

501
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Speaker 2: I don't even think it's just that it's you know, books,

502
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 2: books were allowed and so forth, and we didn't think

503
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Speaker 2: about that. The library was one of my favorite places.

504
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Speaker 2: I talk about my librarian in there, and partly because

505
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Speaker 2: I liked her so much. So it wasn't that I

506
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Speaker 2: was seeking out all these books that would be controversial

507
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Speaker 2: and so forth, which is so ironic now when we're

508
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Speaker 2: talking about books that Huldren should not be allowed amongst

509
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Speaker 2: our kids. That's really more just about the freedom. But

510
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Speaker 2: for me, it was really more about what those teachers

511
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Speaker 2: in the librarian, all those educators represented. It was what

512
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Speaker 2: they represented and how they encouraged you.

513
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Speaker 1: And even not just the staff, like everything that goes

514
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Speaker 1: into going to school, the bus driver you know when

515
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Speaker 1: you get to school, the custodian, the guidance counselor the pribyteria. Yeah,

516
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Speaker 1: people who work in the cafeteria literally to the crossing guards.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you got something.

518
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Speaker 1: You love to see the crossing guard every day, like hi,

519
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Speaker 1: you've running across the street.

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Speaker 2: No, it was a magical time I think for a

521
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Speaker 2: lot of us, which is not to sugarcoated and say

522
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Speaker 2: that everybody had great teachers and everybody had great experiences.

523
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Speaker 2: But I tell you Almost any time I mentioned a

524
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Speaker 2: teacher to somebody, somebody lights up and says, oh, mister

525
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Speaker 2: so and so, and sometimes it might even be a

526
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Speaker 2: difficult time. A friend of mine, who is a doctor

527
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Speaker 2: here in New York City said, missus so and so

528
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Speaker 2: in the Bronx saved my life. I wasn't able to read.

529
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Speaker 2: I was having all kinds of problems. She could see that,

530
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Speaker 2: and she held me after school to make sure she

531
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Speaker 2: tutored me. And that wasn't even what she was supposed

532
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Speaker 2: to do. I can't remember what the subject was, but

533
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Speaker 2: she made sure that he would be up to level

534
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Speaker 2: and could read and could do what he needed to do.

535
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Speaker 2: And he's you know this really really well regarded doctor

536
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Speaker 2: here in New York right now.

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Speaker 4: When I was in elementary school, my mom was an

538
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Speaker 4: abusive relationship. It is somehow it came out at school,

539
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Speaker 4: like I think I was drawing crazy stuff or whatever,

540
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Speaker 4: and so my teacher talked to the principal and like

541
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Speaker 4: every day they would check on me, like you're okay,

542
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Speaker 4: were you by yourself last night? Did you eat like

543
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Speaker 4: they would and they never they never like call child

544
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Speaker 4: protective services.

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Speaker 3: But they really like took care of you. So care

546
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Speaker 3: of me, like just like that entire year.

547
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Speaker 4: And I always remember like that principle and that teacher,

548
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Speaker 4: you know, because you just never know what students are

549
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Speaker 4: going through at home, and you know they're really important

550
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Speaker 4: in terms of like they shape us and help us.

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 2: They gave me goosebumps just now because Lucy Lou had

553
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Speaker 2: a similar story too, about a teacher who just saw

554
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Speaker 2: that she needed some kindness, she needed some help, some

555
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: extra tutoring, and he kept her after school to do it.

556
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Speaker 2: She had, you know, Chinese immigrant parents who didn't speak English.

557
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Speaker 2: You know, she was having difficulty and this teacher just

558
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 2: showed her kindness and that made all the difference.

559
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Speaker 1: And that was part of what made me feel like

560
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Speaker 1: and I always bem like, man, maybe I would have

561
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Speaker 1: been a teacher that could have been really amazing. I

562
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Speaker 1: remember this. One of the students showed me her diary

563
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Speaker 1: because you know, I guess she felt like she could

564
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Speaker 1: share it with me, and it was things in there

565
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Speaker 1: that I was like, Okay, you are in the seventh

566
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Speaker 1: grade and you should not be doing things like this.

567
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Speaker 1: And I really didn't know how, you know, she wanted

568
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Speaker 1: it to be confidential and I really didn't know, Like,

569
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Speaker 1: how do you handle something like that when it comes

570
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Speaker 1: to what these young girls are going through and having

571
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Speaker 1: to deal with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough. It's a very tough job. But the

573
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Speaker 2: teachers who do it love it. The teachers who really

574
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Speaker 2: you know, just go in there every day knowing that

575
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Speaker 2: they're sometimes dealing with difficulty, love it. They spend their

576
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Speaker 2: own money. Three quarters of teachers have second jobs. Spend

577
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Speaker 2: their own money to sort of help kids or to

578
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Speaker 2: either buy supplies, which is one of the reasons as

579
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 2: part of the proceeds are going to donors choose. Donors choose,

580
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 2: which is basically a way of funding resources for teachers.

581
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: If they need a new whiteboard, if they need a

582
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Speaker 2: new iPad. You can actually choose ways to donate to

583
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Speaker 2: help teachers.

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Speaker 1: And that's amazing, and you're right a lot of times

585
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Speaker 1: teachers also I saw in Spike Leester he was talking

586
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: about at Morehouse, his professor would come in on days

587
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Speaker 1: off to help him work on this documentary that he

588
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: was doing because he was just filming things, and he

589
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: was like, why don't you do a documentary? And just

590
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Speaker 1: things like that is amazing and maybe at the time

591
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: you're not even thinking, wow, he has a day off.

592
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Speaker 1: He's just coming in. You don't appreciate it, but in

593
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Speaker 1: retrospect you're like, wow, he's get out.

594
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Speaker 2: Of his time exactly, And that's what That's the beauty

595
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Speaker 2: of teachers. They are not getting paid for as much

596
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Speaker 2: as they're doing, but they are changing lives.

597
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Speaker 1: Now, speaking of getting paid for things, did you take

598
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Speaker 1: care of this refrigerator situation?

599
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Speaker 3: Gosh, I'm like, we're still in the throws.

600
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Speaker 2: Our refrigerator broke down last week in our house up state,

601
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Speaker 2: New York, and just in time for the Memorial Day holiday.

602
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Speaker 3: We're working on it right now.

603
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Speaker 2: I was on the phone with the guy yesterday because

604
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: all the goop and the pots and everything melted onto

605
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 2: the floor. So now the floorboards have to come up

606
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: and then.

607
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: Get the things that happen.

608
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Speaker 3: That's a homeowner whole thing, exactly.

609
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Speaker 1: I like that you share so much of your own

610
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Speaker 1: personal life on social media. I think you're really great

611
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Speaker 1: at doing that because it's very relatable for people who

612
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: are like, oh my god, that was real life.

613
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Speaker 3: Yes, that was real life.

614
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Speaker 2: And I try not to always just have sparkly beautiful,

615
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Speaker 2: you know.

616
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Speaker 3: Angela and I were at this event.

617
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Speaker 2: We both look so pretty, but the next day anything

618
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Speaker 2: could be happening. Yes, no makeup on in the park,

619
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Speaker 2: you know whatever. I try to give a little bit

620
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Speaker 2: of realism.

621
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Speaker 1: How much does the news affect you when you're not

622
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Speaker 1: at work, because there are a lot of stories that

623
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Speaker 1: are really tough to report. A lot of things can

624
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Speaker 1: happen that are disappointing when it comes to you know,

625
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: everything that's going on in Congress and all the battles

626
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: that are happening there right now.

627
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: Tragedies, gunfire, yea gun. I was doing an interview yesterday

628
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Speaker 2: for twenty twenty about a family, a woman who was

629
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: out and killed by her boyfriend and had a six

630
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: year old daughter in the family. Was talking about the

631
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 2: heartbreak of the whole thing. It's it's very hard, and

632
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: you know, you do enough enough of these stories, and

633
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 2: it's hard for me. I'm a mom, I'm a wife,

634
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: I'm a sister, I'm a daughter. It's hard not to

635
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: carry some of this with you. And you go home

636
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: and you think about these people that you just sat

637
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 2: down with and took a part of their lives into

638
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: your life, and yeah, I mean.

639
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 3: Like anybody else, and it's very hard.

640
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: It's hard to watch this and it's hard to filter

641
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: it out and report on it and not be affected

642
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: by it. That's why I like running in the park. Yeah,

643
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: nothing in my ears, so I could just clear my mom.

644
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Speaker 1: Like, I don't want to hand none of this stuff.

645
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Speaker 1: I just want some mee terre yes, birds talk to

646
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: me the birds yea. On vacation, are you able to

647
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: turn it off? Are you still checking up on everything?

648
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: I you know what?

649
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 2: I take magazines, That's that's my kind of mind. Candy

650
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: on the plane. When I get there, I take Vogue

651
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 2: and I take all the fun magazines. But I also

652
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 2: like to take a good book too. I check the headlines.

653
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: I know what's going on. I'm like, you know, that's right,

654
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Speaker 2: But I don't want all the details. I don't want

655
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 2: all the details because I need a moment to just decompress.

656
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: Now, are you about to be a grandmother?

657
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Speaker 3: I'm about to be a d d GG something I

658
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know a grandmother. But I'm not

659
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 3: calling myself back. What are you thinking about? What I

660
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 3: do not know?

661
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: But Courtney, me, my stepdaughter is pregnant and you in

662
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Speaker 2: a couple of months and she says, well, you have

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Speaker 2: to figure out what the baby's gonna call you.

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Speaker 3: I said, the baby won't be talking for a couple

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Speaker 3: of years.

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Speaker 4: We have.

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Speaker 3: Time.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm about to be yes a grandmother figure,

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Speaker 2: but we will not be calling me ground. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: it feels weird, right dd gg something like that is cute.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we'll come up with something.

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Speaker 4: Come pick me up? Gg?

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Speaker 1: Can you pick me up?

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Speaker 4: Got? They go keep saying their whole life though.

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Speaker 1: Exactly when you found out about the New York Times.

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Speaker 3: You really want to hear this story.

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Speaker 2: So Al was having his knee replacement surgery and he, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, he was ready to be picked up. I

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Speaker 2: was waiting on that Wednesday to find out what. I

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Speaker 2: didn't know when we would find out. So I go

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Speaker 2: to pick Al up. It's four o'clock because it's sort

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Speaker 2: of late. Biden is in town. The traffic is snarled.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get to him, and his painkillers are

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Speaker 2: wearing off by the time I get to him.

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Speaker 3: So I get him in the car.

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Speaker 4: She can set a scene like I feel like I'm there.

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Speaker 3: So I get there.

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Speaker 2: He gets in the cars leg you know, of course,

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Speaker 2: it's stiff, and he's trying to get in.

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Speaker 3: He's wincing in pain.

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Speaker 2: We have all this traffic, we're hitting bumps along the way,

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, I get an email that says, congratulations,

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Speaker 2: you made the New York Times.

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Speaker 3: Best I know and alics, what what?

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Speaker 1: What? What?

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Speaker 3: I made the New York Times bestseller listed? He said, congratulations.

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Speaker 1: It's not about me right now, this is about you.

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Speaker 2: So I helped.

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Speaker 3: Alo the into the house as.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to think about the excitement of the

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Speaker 2: New York Times bestseller list.

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Speaker 3: It was a memorable moment.

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Speaker 1: Trust me, We'll never forget it.

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Speaker 3: We will never forget that.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much. I'm so happy that you

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Speaker 1: came in joining us and actually shared this. I think

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Speaker 1: teachers would really appreciate this, because I also feel like

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Speaker 1: teachers do not get the love and adoration and credit

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Speaker 1: that they should get.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, this is and the money that

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Speaker 2: they should get, and the money. This is a love

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Speaker 2: letter to teachers, and it's a reminder about all the

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Speaker 2: things that they do, and I hope it opens a

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Speaker 2: conversation about the importance of what they do.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, very inspiring. Thank you so much. You're very inspiring.

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Speaker 2: You are very inspiring. Thank you so much, and it's

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Speaker 2: always fun to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Yay, thank you, Deva, Robberts we're gonna hit the town again.

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Speaker 3: Well,