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Speaker 1: What up, y'all. This is your main man, Memphis Bleak

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Speaker 1: right here.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and

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Speaker 2: the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over

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Speaker 2: at Drink Champs.

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Speaker 1: Big with the year Memphis. I'm blackydy niggas.

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Speaker 2: Notice the difference, just more prone present, no stones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all you already know what it is.

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Speaker 2: Yours truly back with another exclusive of rock Solid podcast.

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Speaker 2: Like I tell you, when you see people sitting on

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Speaker 2: this platform, it's two things.

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Speaker 1: One they my brother. Two they definitely solid.

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Speaker 2: And this man to the left of me right here,

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Speaker 2: welcome Peter Guns to the building. He's nothing but solid

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Speaker 2: and been a big bro to me in this industry.

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Speaker 1: Every time I seen them. He gave me nothing but gems.

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Speaker 2: Jewels and love to go off with and take it

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Speaker 2: how I take it and let it grow on my

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Speaker 2: tree to where it grow.

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Speaker 1: And I appreciate you for that.

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Speaker 2: One of the hip hop legends from New York, Bronx Harlem,

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Speaker 2: all that shit the same to me because I'm from Brooklyn,

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Speaker 2: you know. He Welcome my nigga, Peter Guds to the building.

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Speaker 1: Love my brother. Let's toast one man.

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Speaker 3: Come on, let me see you man do the intro

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Speaker 3: to My show Man. That was beautiful. My brother, man,

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Speaker 3: how you been my g man hanging in the working

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Speaker 3: that's right. You know, I got these mouths, got to

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Speaker 3: do something.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Man.

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Speaker 2: You everywhere, my nigga, you everywhere. I can't turn on

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Speaker 2: the TV without seeing guds g.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's work now, man, you know it's it's the music

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Speaker 3: industry is a little weird, so you got to go

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Speaker 3: out there and figure it out another way. That's so fast,

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Speaker 3: that's always been there before.

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Speaker 2: We talk about present because everybody know what's going on present.

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Speaker 2: Let's give them a refresher. Let's go back, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. Back born and raised in the Bronx.

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Speaker 2: How did the upbringing shape your musical impact, like like

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Speaker 2: how you got in the game and made you want

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Speaker 2: to do this music thing?

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Speaker 3: Well, from a kid, you know, my mom, my parents,

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Speaker 3: my moms and pops was into different types of music.

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Speaker 3: Fifties mostly do they you know, we're older. So there

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Speaker 1: I saw that you playing the guitar, I saw that.

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Speaker 3: On drums, guitar keyboards. So I was always a musician

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Speaker 3: and then my I come from the other side of

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Speaker 3: the game. There's another side of the game people don't know.

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Speaker 3: So you got whole and then you know I was

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Speaker 3: getting it in the drug game. I grew up with

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Speaker 3: a household full of drug addicts. My three older brothers

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Speaker 3: was on crack. One of my brothers was on heroin.

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Speaker 3: So there's another side to it. So people people used

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Speaker 3: was getting in the eighties. My eighties was different from

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Speaker 3: other side of that. There's another side to that story

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Speaker 3: people never talk about. So if you ever hear me

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Speaker 3: me say stuff about drugs. I grew up with it,

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Speaker 3: particular that if my father bought me a guitar, nigga

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Speaker 3: was stealing something and my boys that was hustling outside.

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Speaker 3: They'll bring shit back, but my mother keep letting them

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Speaker 1: And shit like that. Everybody had that family. We had.

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Speaker 3: I had that side of the game, but eventually he

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Speaker 3: couldn't still rap. So I grew up on the block

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Speaker 3: where the Cold Crush Brothers was from and Idolin's Grandmaster Cast.

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Speaker 3: I even named my uh my son Kaz after him.

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Speaker 3: One of my son's name was Cadz because that's how

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Speaker 3: much he inspired me. And I just started rapping man,

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Speaker 3: you know, playing drums, rapp playing on whatever I could play,

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Speaker 3: because I thought street dudes that also get the girls.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was, That's right. So my first rap

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Speaker 3: name was Pete Love.

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Speaker 1: Pete everybody had the level the name back then.

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Speaker 3: So my cousins from Virginia would come up, bring guns up,

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Speaker 3: You pee a gun, m on it and the rest

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Speaker 1: It not rap.

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Speaker 3: It was just impossible, cold crust for dead furious five,

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Speaker 3: all all the early, early on. Because I'm fifty seven,

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Speaker 3: I was right under those guys.

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Speaker 1: What music.

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Speaker 2: Hip Hop was only six seven by the time hip

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Speaker 3: Building on my block burned down and sept mine, so

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Speaker 1: It was like it was like I remember the Bronx.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bronx was a bunch of abandoned lots, abandoned buildings.

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Speaker 2: If you ever burned down cars, all of that. When

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Speaker 3: You ever google the President Carter when he came to

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Speaker 3: the Bronx, that's my neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: He's standing there, it's right, damn, that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: And it's all burned down and he was like, I

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Speaker 3: can't believe this is New York or America. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: you know the crazy thing is still with all of

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Speaker 3: this stuff, I'm telling you, still had an amazing time,

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Speaker 3: amazing life. I'm built for anything from hard times. There's

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Speaker 3: nothing that could happen to me that I'm not built for.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's what.

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Speaker 3: And it was only going up, it was only up

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Speaker 3: to go. It's nowhere. It's no further than this. So

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Speaker 3: my moms and pops are the best they could do.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: And I'll come from a huge family, a big family,

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Speaker 3: so we did. You know, everybody wanted to be with us,

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Speaker 3: even though we might've been the poorous, and yeah, it

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Speaker 3: you take those things and you and you turn those

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Speaker 3: to say, you turn the stumbling and that's what we did.

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Speaker 2: That's a fact, man, That's I tell a lot of people, man,

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Speaker 2: poverty produced some of the most talented people in the world.

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Speaker 2: Because you knew, I didn't want to live like this.

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Speaker 2: This ain't this ain't the way, so I have to

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Speaker 2: the BX. How did you and Lord Tiq link up?

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Speaker 2: Like how that relationship started.

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Speaker 3: I was in this crew of the gun Runners. Literally, yeah,

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Speaker 3: these niggas was nice.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you. You can ask kissing them. They

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Speaker 3: always say gun Runers, gun Runner, Swiss beats. They fucked

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Speaker 3: with us hardest before they came out. They was listening

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Speaker 3: to us. You know, I'm holding in them.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: So we was like Wu Tang before Wu Tang the

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Speaker 3: same plan.

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Speaker 1: We all got seven of us.

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Speaker 3: We all gonna go and I'm just gonna lead it

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Speaker 3: to another story is the truth. We all gonna go

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Speaker 3: out and we're gonna we're gonna do this album together

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Speaker 3: and we're gonna all get separate deals. And I want

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Speaker 3: put the depend in the fucking balloom because everybody went

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Speaker 3: back to selling cracking niggas like nah, they already did this,

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Speaker 3: But Tarik, it was already seven of us. And my

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Speaker 3: want to he want you to hear me, want you

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Speaker 3: there's too many niggas in this group already. And then

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Speaker 3: down with the money boss players, and she was like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but he wanna he want to rock with y'all too.

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Speaker 3: We want to rock with you, So I said I

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Speaker 3: One day, I was in my room, he came in.

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Speaker 3: I pressed tape I had. I had a beat tape going,

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Speaker 3: and niggas started rhyming. I said that nigga better than.

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Speaker 1: All of us.

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Speaker 3: He and I went downstairs and told my niggas, you're

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Speaker 3: my sister boyfriend? Is that night brought him down? You

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Speaker 3: know it was family since he him and my sister

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Speaker 3: married man, grown kids, grandkids. Yeah, so they still together.

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Speaker 2: Yo, that's dope because I was about to say, your

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Speaker 3: Nah, I'm not that nigga. But one thing I don't do.

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Speaker 3: One thing I don't do is watching a nigga doing

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Speaker 3: I'm too busy working mind.

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Speaker 1: But that sister love man. You know, we died for

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Speaker 1: our sister, of course, but yo, you're a hypocrite.

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Speaker 3: Guns, come on my nigga, somebody else.

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely yo.

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Speaker 3: So what I what I tried to do is I'm

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Speaker 3: of the hotel. The tall bus is the tall bus.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 3: Listen, my sister came to me, she gonna kill me

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Speaker 3: for this bunker. Fuck Whatjerik doing? What is he doing

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Speaker 3: on the road.

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Speaker 1: I know that that's what's supposed to.

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Speaker 3: What I'm supposed to say, Oh, he fucked.

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Speaker 1: Man, I don't know. That's the part. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I was never I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But you're dealing with a rock stars, so you should

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Speaker 3: use your common sense. That's what I wanted to say,

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Speaker 3: use your common sense. But now you know what. They

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Speaker 3: was young, We were young, and we was taking you camp,

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Speaker 3: and man, you go from we went from flat broke

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Speaker 3: to just now ten thousand in this pocket ten because

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Speaker 3: you back in.

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Speaker 1: The days they paid you in cash more broad.

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Speaker 3: And that's what took me to read so long to

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Speaker 3: work the album, because we was just new money and

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Speaker 3: every lost focus a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Every every artist I think that happened.

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Speaker 2: I think every one of us got that story of

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Speaker 2: the new money I made it.

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Speaker 1: I don't gotta work no more. This is everything I

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Speaker 1: worked for.

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Speaker 3: Your nigga, We go on the Times Square so you

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Speaker 3: can see these niggas go crazy when I walk out

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Speaker 3: dumb shit like that. But yeah, so that and you

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Speaker 3: know something that you gotta remember, I didn't get onto

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Speaker 3: late in life, So you gotta remember I was twenty

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Speaker 3: six or twenty seven when the record came on, Like i'

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Speaker 3: that's what I was ramised since nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna talk about.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about de y'a vou man in that record,

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Speaker 2: like and it the impact? Did you foresee did you

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Speaker 3: Hells no, hell don't know. We'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 3: I thought the record was a local bronx. If if

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Speaker 3: rap bars, the hook is sixteen bars, and it's about

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you some Tarik true story. Tarik kept saying, nigga,

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Speaker 3: I used to be like, Nigga, boh, I'm working on

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Speaker 3: a Tika totally opposite. I'm playing guitar on my ship.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, this is this one, ain't it? We gotta

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Speaker 3: when I went to Tarika, and I was already signed

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Speaker 1: So we'll get ja.

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Speaker 3: So no, the answer to your question is no. And

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Speaker 3: I used to say, skate Key the tunnel and everything

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Speaker 3: because Brooklyn and Harlem be ham Boklyn. So I'll say, yo,

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Speaker 3: if it wasn't for the Bronx, just rap shit and

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Speaker 3: y'all go uptown, Nigga, that's gonna be our reframe. Ky

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Speaker 3: say yo, you know that ship used to do eskate

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Speaker 3: Key put that in this and that's how that shot.

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Speaker 1: Damn. That's yo, Bro, that hook is known. I don't

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Speaker 2: That song coming on in the club, Bro, I done

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you why, Glad you said that. I

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Speaker 3: M I was like, fuck no, because I'm the nigga

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Speaker 3: singing the New York niggas got crazy game. So then

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Speaker 3: I gotta go La niggas get crazy loop. If it

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Speaker 3: wasn't ain't scared. I had to do that shit for

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Speaker 3: and when. But he was right, as soon as that happened,

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Speaker 3: sure where everywhere. Yeah, So that's why they know it

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Speaker 3: because it's versions for every area in the world. Lll

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Speaker 3: who J was like, my nigga, if you do that,

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Speaker 1: To you again.

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Speaker 3: He wanted the authenticity of it. He's like, don't make

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Speaker 3: I just heard her LA version. That shit almost crashed

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Speaker 1: Fuck you too, my niggas. Yo, So you said you

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Speaker 1: said Shaq, I was gonna ask you.

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Speaker 2: Shout out Shaquille O'Neill man, one of the most dominant

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Speaker 2: Everybody wanted to be as big and dunkish like Shaq.

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Speaker 1: Straight up. How did that relationship happen again? You know?

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Lord Tarik was signed over at in

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Speaker 3: the Scope and in the Scope told Tarik, Yo, we

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Speaker 3: and Nil help and write some stuff whatever whatever. Shout

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Speaker 3: out the oh, yeah, So he went to He went

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Speaker 3: Nigga got and say, yo, I could pen some stuff

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Speaker 3: for you. But my brother Guns, he do pop stuff.

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Speaker 3: He do stuff like he do the clean she's nasty.

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Speaker 3: You gotta bring him out here. The shot called me

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Speaker 3: Say yo, flying you out tomorrow. Shot to Frank Edwards

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Speaker 3: and Hassan and all the people that I was involved

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Speaker 3: with that. So I called, I called my po So

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Speaker 3: I got a job, but I gotta go out of town.

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Speaker 3: Ain't going because I was on probation for a gun charge.

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Speaker 3: I was on probation and I had a job at

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Speaker 3: a dry cleaners because they was like, get a job

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Speaker 3: or you going back. So I was working at a

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Speaker 3: she killed on Neil just called me. She said, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Prince and Michael Jackson's performing at my Mitzvhelle got here.

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Speaker 1: Stay here. If you go, I'm locking you up and

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Speaker 1: you get back. I got on the first thing smoking later.

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Speaker 1: I see later PO later.

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Speaker 3: Three months linked with the big fellow pause because I

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Speaker 1: But my kids.

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Speaker 3: I got young kids that won't let me get away

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Speaker 2: So I'm back in the Yeah, I understand, but you

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Speaker 2: No man told him get the ball, so they better

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Speaker 3: Sometime I say ship, just so they could pause. I

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Speaker 3: giving him. You know, he was writing and Nigga Biggie

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Speaker 3: was coming through. Jay did something here, but he came

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Speaker 3: down to the to the we was in Dan Where

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Speaker 3: were we when we worked with Jay? Because he didn't

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Speaker 3: Dane then. But you know, if you name it, they're coming.

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Speaker 2: Michael Jackson, everybody, man, everybody's coming through the dou ship

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Speaker 2: with shock because he was on fire at that time.

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Speaker 3: So then he said we're going to China and we're

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Speaker 3: going to bangle Dash. He was going to Reebok put

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Speaker 3: back handcuffed.

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Speaker 1: Yo. It was your lady. Wasn't like how much time

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Speaker 3: No, they didn't give me no time. She just clicked

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Speaker 3: click clack. You're gonna go to right because island will

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Speaker 3: work it out from there. Shaq ended up signing basketballs uh,

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Speaker 1: And doing he was yo.

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Speaker 3: He did everything in that and they let me out

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Speaker 3: and they got let me off probation.

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Speaker 1: Man, so shott him. Damn, he even got you off

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Speaker 1: probation because he was shocked. God Dad Shock.

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Speaker 3: Is one of those people that that's different level lick.

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Speaker 1: He's still licked. He's still super different level was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was people with just.

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Speaker 2: Was he was he He wasn't there, He wasn't Orlando

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Speaker 2: PD Shock yet, right, he was just shocked.

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Speaker 3: But he was always messing with the No matter where youse.

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Speaker 1: Niggas don't know shot with the black the law.

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Speaker 3: He locked you up Shock because the law and he

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Speaker 3: with the streets. I never seen no ship like it.

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Speaker 3: You don't see the most fucking villain crip in the

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Speaker 1: See Shocked with like the chief of police. He's like,

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Speaker 1: that's what it was.

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Speaker 3: He always teetered the line between everybody.

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Speaker 2: Everybody fuck with Shock, bro. So I'm telling it don't

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Speaker 3: Like, so they was on some groupie ship letting me

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Speaker 3: I think it was more like it sounds.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 3: It sounded like, imagine nigga came your office. That's don't

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Speaker 3: have two niggas to run together, have fucking on, you know,

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Speaker 3: tell you o ya, I'm getting ready to go on

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Speaker 3: tour with shack.

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Speaker 2: You know, be like, yeah, nigga, what but my nigga.

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Speaker 2: They made me male start a campaign. He had to

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Speaker 2: get whole football owner, everybody had to get involved.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they want to make example on a certain niggas. Me,

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Speaker 3: I was a nobody.

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Speaker 1: If we even knew what we had to do was

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Speaker 3: Bro was just a perfect storm because it wasn't just

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Speaker 3: So that's not a call he probably would have made

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Speaker 3: for everybody, like yeah, everything he could. And I left

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Speaker 3: there when he got my bags on the right back

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Speaker 3: to Orlando that she killed.

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Speaker 1: Yo. The oh, Orlando is beautiful. I love Orlando.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people don't know. They think it's just

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Speaker 2: they think it's just you know Disney. No, man, the oh,

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Speaker 2: I love it. It's nitty. They got a major nightlife.

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Speaker 2: The food is insane, the restaurants they got. Be trying

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Speaker 2: to tell people, Man, that's crazy. I love it. I

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Speaker 2: love it.

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Speaker 3: Shut back to what you were saying. So the star

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Speaker 3: power of a person can make anybody change. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: give you an example. Me and Trek did a song

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Speaker 3: with tat Ali. It was off the same beat all

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Speaker 3: day long. Dream of You was only real hit. Rodney

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Speaker 3: Jerkins produced it and we was good friends with Rodney.

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Speaker 3: Rodney had a group signed over with Shackle. So Rodney

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Speaker 3: would call me and say, Guns, I need you and

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Speaker 3: Tarika on this joint. I'm like, I'm not rhyming over

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Speaker 3: that beat no more. It was our only joint. Niggas,

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Speaker 3: that's all they know is for We're gonna just keep rhyming.

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Speaker 3: I'm done not doing it. Called me a mad time's guns.

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Speaker 3: Come on, man, she's here, she do this joint. I'm

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Speaker 3: not doing it. Will said he got money for you.

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Speaker 3: Do He'll throw you twenty just twenty real quick.

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Speaker 1: Just not doing it, bro, Will Smith, Yeah, throw you

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Speaker 1: twenty racks. Just jump on the door. You know you

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Speaker 1: was getting too much money. Turned down a check from

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Speaker 1: oh nigga, you know.

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Speaker 3: And when I look back at some of the ship

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Speaker 3: I did back then, No I'm not performing Christmas, Damn,

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Speaker 3: stay in my family. They would double the money. I

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Speaker 3: still wouldn't go. So when you get older, you're like, damn,

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Speaker 3: what was I thinking?

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Speaker 1: I know? We all been there. I told you we

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Speaker 1: all I got that. We all been there, So mad.

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Speaker 3: The nigga Rodney and him sending Will Smith to the studio.

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Speaker 3: I'm somewhere in the studio, this nigga walking in a

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Speaker 1: His worst movie ever. He was filming that. He came

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Speaker 1: out a big check. But I hated it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't like it either. But the nigga came

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Speaker 3: in and said, y'all need you to do this song,

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Speaker 3: and I said, oh shit, Will Smith all right, and

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Speaker 3: Rotteney them niggas was like, damn nigga, this nigga asked

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Speaker 3: you one time you doing it, we may ask you

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Speaker 3: for two months. So you know, we all with certain niggas.

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Speaker 3: Certain niggas asked. She's like, all right, man, fucks Will Smith.

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Speaker 2: I feel you yo, what you feel your biggest contribution

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Speaker 2: to the culture has been.

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Speaker 3: I'm just proud of I think the Bronx wasn't in

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Speaker 3: the best place when we put that record out. You know,

437
00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,320
Speaker 3: come on in Brooklyn, ain't gonna from Brooklyn. And the

438
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,840
Speaker 3: choke Hold still Queen's choke Hold still, you know, and

439
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,119
Speaker 3: the Bronx. It was just spurts of things and I

440
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 3: just never forget how happy Kaz, Grandmaster Kaz and who

441
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,520
Speaker 3: hirking them was when they hurt the record, because they

442
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,040
Speaker 3: expressed to me how how much that meant to them,

443
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,480
Speaker 3: just to say if it wasn't just a reminder that

444
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 3: if it wasn't for the Bronx, you know.

445
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 1: So that's right that that.

446
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,359
Speaker 3: I just think the ogs, the look on their faces,

447
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,159
Speaker 3: the people that I looked up to growing up with

448
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,320
Speaker 3: Kaz and the Cold Crust brother shot out the easy

449
00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,160
Speaker 3: a d my brother, but yeah, the Cold Crush, who.

450
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,240
Speaker 1: Idl that was?

451
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,159
Speaker 3: They was from the hood and they was you know,

452
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 3: they were stars to us, even though nobody outside of

453
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 3: New York probably they were back then.

454
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 1: They the pioneers, man part of the pioneers of this.

455
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,199
Speaker 3: So I think that would be that song is my

456
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 3: biggest contribution to to UH, to hip hop. I wasn't

457
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,160
Speaker 3: even trying to act like I had anything else that

458
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 3: that I could say. It's like, you know, but the

459
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 3: difference is hones switchy Man's away of life. That's right,

460
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,920
Speaker 3: And that's why it's like I made records. I write

461
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 3: a song to day. I write all the time, even

462
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 3: if I never put it out there, because it's just

463
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 3: it's just sterocutic.

464
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 1: I tell people that all the time. Man, it wasn't.

465
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't. We didn't start rhyming to get paid.

466
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 2: When you got paid, it was like, oh, ship, people

467
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 2: really paying me for this, But you just made We

468
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 2: just did it just because it was our way to

469
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 2: talk what we was going through, what we thought, you

470
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 2: know what I mean. That's why I always love music.

471
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,640
Speaker 1: I still always continue to still do for sure, never

472
00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 1: gonna stop.

473
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 3: A lot of people be like, Yo, you don't put

474
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 3: music out, I said, because I don't want to give

475
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 3: nigga something some more hate. Oh he said, Nigga drop

476
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 3: something and nobody cared. Now I do.

477
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: No, it's people that care, bro.

478
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,439
Speaker 2: But now I'm a firm believer whether it's one or

479
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 2: one thousand, I'm gonna still do my thing like because

480
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 2: one that one can tell one thousand, you know what

481
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:20,120
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

482
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 1: So I'm a firm believer into that. Yo. I'm new

483
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 1: into this media space.

484
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I've been watching you do

485
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 2: your thing. You've been in this media gang. We gonna

486
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 2: take one show.

487
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:32,400
Speaker 1: At the top.

488
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 2: I'm not going shows at the same because this stories

489
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 2: by or three. First of all, what was your thought

490
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 2: process to even be like, fuck it, I'm going into

491
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 2: the media space.

492
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this.

493
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 3: I went to the eighteen one day and that shit

494
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 3: told me to get the fuck out of broken. I

495
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 3: won't even try to sugar coat for.

496
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: You, chill, he said. I went to the AGM and

497
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 1: that shit said, you know at.

498
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 3: Us, you're gonna call the cops the fuck away from.

499
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: Me, yo, chill. That was a good one.

500
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 3: I've never ty to sugar yold it. I was on

501
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 3: my back, my nigga.

502
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be all the way one hundred with you.

503
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 2: I remember watching when New York Love and hip Hop

504
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 2: they announced the roster.

505
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 1: You know, my wife she into that, you know, reality

506
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 1: show girl ain't.

507
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 2: No.

508
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 3: I wasn't watching this ship. I wish I would have

509
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,479
Speaker 3: because I don't know what I was in for yea.

510
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 2: So I'm like, yo, all right, cool? So she like,

511
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 2: you know any of these people? So I'm going through

512
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 2: the list like, yeah, this is my people's, this is

513
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: my people's that's my dog right there. Yeah, I know, shorty,

514
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: She mad cool. This was everything cool as the show

515
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 2: going on. Man, we ain't hang out like that.

516
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 1: It was just a high bot there. That's my dog.

517
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: I seen him in the studio.

518
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 3: We ain't kigging like that, I'm sure. My sister was like,

519
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 3: not really, let me tell you something, bro, And it's

520
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: on a serious note. When I first did Love and

521
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 3: Hip Hop, right, I never really watched it. I watched

522
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 3: Monday Night football.

523
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, you know.

524
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 3: I did a scene with Rich and it went so

525
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 3: viral that Rich said, Yo, they want you to do

526
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 3: ornother they want they want to talk to you about

527
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 3: your story, which your story is, but we'll get to that.

528
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 3: But I never looked. I never it was just a way.

529
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 3: It was no malice, and it was like, I'm gonna

530
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 3: get Tyra bag. I'm gonna get a Mina bag. She sings,

531
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 3: she could, she's an actor, she's beautiful, and then I

532
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 3: could get a little money, take care of my little

533
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 3: my mouths, my kids. So that was the original thought process.

534
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: But when I went interview with Mona and them, and

535
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 3: I did the interview on camera and I was like, listen, man,

536
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 3: I'm really messing with this girl.

537
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: I'm married to her too.

538
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 3: By the way, so you know, they was like yeah, perfect,

539
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 3: mean it's from Germany. So even though I was working

540
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: on some management stuff. She you know, you know, I

541
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 3: can't say too much about it. You know, she wasn't

542
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 3: the city and all that. You know, I can't go

543
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 3: too much into that.

544
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: That's cool.

545
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 3: I will say this, it was when the show called me.

546
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 3: I didn't expect the show to call me. When they

547
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: called me, and I'm like, damn, some shit gonna come

548
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: out that ain't supposed to come out. So, you know,

549
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: me and Amina had an agreement that you know, it's to

550
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 3: keep some things.

551
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: We know why, we gotta keep it low.

552
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 3: But you know, when the show came on, I fucked

553
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 3: around and told Mona them the truth because I didn't

554
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 3: want nobody else calling the show saying yo, they really Yeah,

555
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 3: So I told him on the truth and Mona the

556
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 3: first day of the show, they took our phones told

557
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 3: me to go ahead and tell rich y'all married. After

558
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: I told him for two months to nobody.

559
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, they looked at you like perfect, this

560
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,479
Speaker 1: is just what we needed.

561
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 3: And the back, the back last shot I got for

562
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 3: that first two episodes, I stayed in the house for

563
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 3: about a month and a half. I didn't meet my house. Yeah,

564
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 3: it was bad, and I'm thinking about everybody that's seen it,

565
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 3: same thing you saying. I had to tell my wife

566
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 3: found know them like that. My sisters used to call

567
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 3: me Sunday like, Nigga, I gotta go to work tomorrow.

568
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: What did you you do? Because Monday she.

569
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 3: Got to go to work on Tuesday, and they like yeah,

570
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 3: and the whole job is like, what the fuck is

571
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: wrong with your brother?

572
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: Yo? What's your legend? Bro yo? So you agend? Love

573
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: you brother, I love you, watch you You a fucking legend.

574
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 3: I just didn't think about everybody else, my friend's family

575
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 3: and everybody else, you know. I was like, damn, I

576
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: didn't think about that. My daughter got into fight to

577
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 3: school because peoples like your father's you know that kind

578
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 3: of shit it went. But it wasn't my intent at all.

579
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 3: But once you're in it, there's no and they control

580
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 3: the matter, narrative. It's no getting around that shit.

581
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: They gonna chop it up and edited how they needed

582
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: to be. Yeah.

583
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 3: So if me and Bleak is sitting here right and

584
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 3: were talking about Donald Trump and I make a face.

585
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: And then you say you're.

586
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 3: Working on an album, right, They're gonna put my Donald

587
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 3: Trump face to your album face. So that would happened

588
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 3: on the show. People will call me be like, Guns,

589
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: why you make that face?

590
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 1: My nigga?

591
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 3: Why the fuck would I make that face? You know

592
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 3: how they do it. I'm arguing with Cardi B. On

593
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 3: the show. They got tied on the stage. Tar wasn't

594
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: even there, like Tomorra's making faces like like like.

595
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: Like you chill. They like that.

596
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 3: They did that. I'm not loved them for that.

597
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 1: That's real instigating.

598
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 3: Let me tell you this, this is a true story.

599
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 3: I'm not supposed to be saying this. I sign a

600
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 3: contract nothing to do that. But I will say this.

601
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 3: That's not trying to say they made me do nothing.

602
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 3: The ninety percent of what you've seen on Peter Guns

603
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 3: on that show is Peter Guns.

604
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: I just but listen, I'm from the projects. Were all

605
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: from New York.

606
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: We all got that front that that friend that you

607
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 2: told something too. And then they see the dude and

608
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 2: they be like, yo, son, such and such just said,

609
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 2: when he see you, he going to do that ship

610
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: you just told me?

611
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: You said.

612
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 2: That's all they did the y'all they instigated. I loved

613
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 2: them for that. Mona's a genius.

614
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: Listen.

615
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 3: I went to Mona one time. Here's a good one

616
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 3: for you. I go to Moana one time and I'm like, yo, Moana, man,

617
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 3: all my I'm running to my pigs. The rappers made

618
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 3: you do that show, dogging me out, and I want

619
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: more money sometime. I wouldn't go to set. I need

620
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 3: twenty thousand. Ain't gonna set whatever I started.

621
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: At least you got your lady some money. Cause his

622
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 2: niggas that put out I did some dude some bullshit.

623
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: I ain't getting nobody a check.

624
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

625
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: Well, the only thing is, I think they both would

626
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: agree that's not the way you coulda got me a

627
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 3: check when they.

628
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: But I told you, this opened me up a new salon. Ye.

629
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 3: But I will say this though, Mona showed me a

630
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 3: real and I ain't gonna throw these under the bus,

631
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 3: all these niggas that were telling me I should have

632
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: did the show interviewing Mona.

633
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: If you just give me.

634
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 3: A shot, I promise you I'll be good. I said

635
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 3: that that nigga told me not to do the show

636
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 3: too chill.

637
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: They asked me. They asked me to do it. I

638
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: told you.

639
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 2: The big homie was like, Nah, you don't know me.

640
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 2: If you do it, you ain't cool. We don't fuck

641
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 2: with each other. So I was gonna do that. I

642
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 2: was going run with that because I clipped me.

643
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: I said, pets, they watching the show up there? Shut

644
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 3: the you know Peck was up there.

645
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out pack my guy. Absolutely everybody watching. So

646
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: then my wife she like, I'm never getting on TV.

647
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: So I'm like, yo, I have a fake wife.

648
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: She like, fucked smouse, trying to get the fake wife fat.

649
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 3: I took it to be honest with you, Alani is

650
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 3: going there with fake story, I know, and I made

651
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 3: your cat. I regret not doing that because you know,

652
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: I gave one. When I got there, they was like, yo,

653
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: we're gonna put you in this building, y'all gonna live.

654
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: I said, nah, I'm not reality. That's sure what it

655
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 3: really is. You know, I'm not trying to front. I'm

656
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: not driving nobody car, not wearing nobody jewelry. I'm not

657
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:40,719
Speaker 3: living in no penthouse.

658
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: We ain't right here.

659
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 3: That's where we live at right here. I know it

660
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: ain't the best, but we're gonna show what it is.

661
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 3: I never was wanted, I guess as I was raised.

662
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 3: I didn't. I never like front, like, I just don't

663
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: have it.

664
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: In me. Bro.

665
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: When it's bad, it's bad. I'm scared to say it.

666
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: Can't fake it. We just make it.

667
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. I don't fake it to you. I

668
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: just make it.

669
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: I was never gonna live somewhere or drive something that

670
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: wasn't mind in front. I just don't have it.

671
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: No, that's dope, man. But ship man.

672
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: Then y'all remember watching, right, I never met Rich. I

673
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: never met Halfway. No, I never met Rich. And it's

674
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: crazy we know all the same people.

675
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: Which was that bad boy like word?

676
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: Uh what was my other homie name, the light skinned Cisco.

677
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 2: I never met Cisco.

678
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: We all get the straight Cisco.

679
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 3: I'm sorry nigga Cisco saying he was down with with

680
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: Rock Rock.

681
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: He probably was. Remember it was a lot of departments

682
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: on the rock. We had the Spanish Spanish, That's what

683
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: I'm saying, all of them they speaking Spanish.

684
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: I just got down with the Spanish crew.

685
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I never met him, right, But then

686
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: y'all formed the crew to creep Squad, and I know

687
00:29:54,800 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: you and I'm like, damn, I'm married now, and niggas

688
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: want to make the coolest gag in the world. The

689
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 2: Creep Squad was the I'm looking at my wife like

690
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: you just don't know?

691
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: That was There was a lot of flak behind that,

692
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 3: but it was just we was boys and they can

693
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: call us creep.

694
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: So I said, Yo, we the creep squad. Squad.

695
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 3: That's right, rest and it's stuck. And but here's the

696
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 3: funny thing. I walk down the street your guns? Can

697
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: I get down with the creep squad. I'm telling you

698
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: what I said. You're going to tell your girl that

699
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 3: your wife that then you can't be in.

700
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: Yo. But yo, you're only married nig and the creepoo

701
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: chip loud. I'm divorced. I'm divorced.

702
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: Seriously, Yeah, we got divorced right now, right, no fucking way.

703
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: I don't like I don't.

704
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: Like bringing up listen, I don't like bringing up people

705
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: personal like relationships with my brother. But we ain't even

706
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: get into that. I just got a question because I

707
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: never knew a twin man messed with a twin Did

708
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: you ever get through confused?

709
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 3: Like early on, look at the system, be like.

710
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: What a baby? She like? Don't play with me? Early on?

711
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 3: Early on, I asked Amana about her system and she

712
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: said she's married. Said oh, in the shout out, shout

713
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: out to my man Flowers, that's my guy. She was

714
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 3: married at the time, the kid. She said, oh, she

715
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: married with a kid. And then Amina was messing with God.

716
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: Knew a musician and you know, so she wasn't single.

717
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: But then eventually things went where they went.

718
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: This is New York Shire.

719
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: We don't care you single to us, nobody single. They

720
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: just become available that part, you know what I mean.

721
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: Everybody got somebody for sure, somebody you'd be like chick.

722
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: Even was like, yeah, I ain't got no you got

723
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: somebody you call and be like.

724
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: We was friend be that adjustment.

725
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: Me and Amina made music. She had a man at

726
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 3: a situation at home, but we would record. She played piano,

727
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: I play guitars, playing to play drums. Just write songs

728
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: here and the rest. I'm not gonna sit here in

729
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 3: front to nobody. Like I didn't think nothing was gonna happen.

730
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: I knew it was just man.

731
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, the music is playing, the vibes is going, we

732
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: vibe it. We catching eye contact you on the keys.

733
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: I'm on the guitar ship like a movie scene. It's inevitable.

734
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: A man was supposed to be right there on that couch.

735
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: For a long time, A long time, I was hitting

736
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: him with.

737
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: The a week man week, let's get off of love

738
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: and hip hop.

739
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: The illest shit I ever seen in my life was

740
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: you on Cheetahs. It was like, what how how you? Yo?

741
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: How did you become the host of Cheetahs? Where the

742
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: whole world just seeing you go with crazy? Yo?

743
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: That's like, that's like a niggle sell drugs, chasing the

744
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: drug dealers like nigga.

745
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, who better to go after you than me? I

746
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: know all the tricks.

747
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: You talent on the dweam store against the very.

748
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: Here's a crazy ship.

749
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: I would I would, yo, I ship would come on

750
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: TV Before I got on it.

751
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: I turned the TV.

752
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 3: These niggas gonna he's gonna see some models and ship.

753
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: I used to be like, this show will get me

754
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: fucked up. But then the host of the show died

755
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: thirty years old, that man Clark Gable, Clock Gable, the

756
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: third Clark Gable's grandson.

757
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: Damn, I ain't know that God overdose or some crazy ship.

758
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 3: And my manager behind my back at the time, just

759
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: sent an email to the show said, you know what,

760
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: I think, Peter Guns would be a good It'd be

761
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 3: funny if he was hosting the show, and the shout

762
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 3: to Bobby Goldstein, he's the owner CEO of the show.

763
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 3: Went to an office in the meeting, said what do

764
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: you guys in here? Thinking Peter Guns hosted the show?

765
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: He said, everybody jumped up with crazy. If you could

766
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: get him, lock him in. So he flew me to Dallas.

767
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 3: We met, had dinner, and the rest is history. I

768
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: moved the Dallas. I had cribbon downs to this day.

769
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: So I moved to Dallas to start filming the show,

770
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 3: and I thought it was you know what I appreciated, man,

771
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 3: I'm glad you broke that up. What I appreciated about

772
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: the show was he said, you could. There's only two rules.

773
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: You can't use your your stage name. You gotta use

774
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 3: your government name, which I hate. But I'm like, if

775
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 3: that's the rules, because they paid me and green screen,

776
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 3: I need you to do green scheme like.

777
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: I wrote it.

778
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 3: But in the streets, do you be who you are?

779
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: Do it how you want. So that's why you see me.

780
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 3: You my man, you don't see what it is.

781
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm talking streets.

782
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you you caught, you caught when you

783
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 2: come with your caught.

784
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 1: What you doing.

785
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: So the ship goes. It's on TMZ. It's all over shavings,

786
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: all on the blockers, blowing up one of them. I got

787
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 3: sued from fighting and go on the show. No because

788
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 3: like yo, no he was cause he was getting he

789
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: was he was getting aggressive with this girl and I

790
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: was like, man, you can't. I have a thing about

791
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 3: niggas here on women fact. So he was getting aggressive

792
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 3: and she's scared. She washim behind me. Let me tell

793
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 3: you the craziest shit. The nigga kept doing this ship.

794
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 3: I can't make this out. I had to say this

795
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: to the people in the court. He kept saying, pussy sneak.

796
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 3: If it's just like my family gonna see this, y'all.

797
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 3: He can't keep doing I said, bro, you can't stop that.

798
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 3: The niggas start doing new addish cause you're a pussy

799
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: stink and I can't live this way.

800
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: Yo, And we like which wrong with this nigga.

801
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: So the producer's pulled me to the sign and go

802
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: we're not gonna even air this episode. So at that

803
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: point it's green light. If he swinging at all, try

804
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: to get out again, and I tossed the nigga down.

805
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: Try to suit Cheetahs.

806
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 3: Cheetahs, you can't sue because whatever you know, the trampoline

807
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 3: parts you take your kids to where you sign your

808
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 3: life away, even you could die on cheetahs. They not responsible.

809
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 3: That fucking paperworkers. This stick and everybody got a gun.

810
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: So when we were run down on the nigga his man

811
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 3: to be like, Yo, what the fuck? And I'm sitting there.

812
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 3: So one time, the first episode, I was so scared

813
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 3: cause niggas were guns that when we had to meet,

814
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: and we have a meeting after every show, I said, Yo,

815
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: who in here got a gun?

816
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: Nigga?

817
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: The sound man, the craft man, the fucking camera man,

818
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: everybody pulled their guns out. Textass was crazy, man, So

819
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: Yo got after this show man cheaters, cheaters, cheaters, watching

820
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 3: your cheaters is like, Yo, and everybody you cheated too,

821
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: a nigga, what you're doing? Everybody but you said it? Man,

822
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: what's bad? Who better to get you? The guy one

823
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 3: of the tricks in the and every nigga into you, nigga,

824
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 3: I said that one that's corny swat. They ready to

825
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: go back up, they're ready to wheels up again on it.

826
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, let me meg. So what bothered me.

827
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 3: Was I went into the office after the show took

828
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: off again. I said, I'm gonna need more money.

829
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: Bobby. You see the fucking ratings. He said, sit down.

830
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: I sat down. He said, I lost three countries two continents.

831
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: Because I hired a black host. They not ready for

832
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: that yet, sir, So.

833
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 3: He lost money hiring I was a black first black host,

834
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 3: So it wasn't when I went in there to like

835
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: stick my chest out from my bag. He was like,

836
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: guns man, I lost money, but I'm not gonna turn

837
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 3: on you. We're gont he said. But by the way,

838
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: put this bag on the table, mad. Now, your friends

839
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: in jail love you. I was popping the jail.

840
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's dope, man, that's done.

841
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: Was using blood language or jail and it was for them,

842
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: you know. I run, yo, my man, if you want to,

843
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: we can shoot the thirty right now. And that was

844
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 3: going so VH wanted to hit up and say, yo,

845
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 3: it's the host using language or gang language. There was

846
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: There was bugging on me, but I just throw a

847
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 3: little darts out there. So on jail cheat everybody come

848
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 3: home now like nigga, he cheats. Getting helped me get

849
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: through the bit he was a funny nigga.

850
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, bro, that shit is dope. You know you

851
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: probably in the day room, niggas probably like nigga.

852
00:37:55,040 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 1: Fuck that put on Cheetahs. I was hot. Then that's dope. Man.

853
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: Doing all this media, being on TV and all of that.

854
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: How do you move different now, like, you know, different

855
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: than how a musician would move because it's different shit.

856
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 2: We know, like it's certain crowds that like hip hop.

857
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 2: Not everybody likes hip hop. The TV everyone who watches TV, right,

858
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 2: So that's what I mean.

859
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just puts you out there a little more.

860
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: With me, I'm able to be myself more doing the

861
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 3: TV stuff, you know, the stuff that I'm really doing,

862
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Nobody's really controlling everything I do.

863
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: Except I mean, they do some things to fuck you

864
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: up over that, but it it's just you have to evolve.

865
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 3: The music wasn't either out you know, I'm always do music,

866
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: but maybe the audience is outgrown, Like they say, guns,

867
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 3: won't you put new music? They want new music. Audience

868
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 3: don't buy new music. They want to hit the hits.

869
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: So you gotta do something to keep food on the table.

870
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 3: But I move around here, yo, yo, bik. Honestly, I'm

871
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: not saying this because you sitting here. Whenever I would

872
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 3: see you interview, I'd be like, Yo, this nigga's stories

873
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 3: is so credible because you ain't them.

874
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: You funny.

875
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 3: You paint the stories that I immediately hit you in

876
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: your DMS and I hit the weather man. I said, yoh,

877
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: we should do a podcast because I thought I thought

878
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 3: just your interviews. So when you got in the space,

879
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 3: I said, I knew it and I've been said it.

880
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: Nah.

881
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 3: So man, without being on that, I could see you

882
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: blowing it. If you wouldn't it did it, I would

883
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 3: have been bugging out. I would have thought, Hope said, no, nigga,

884
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 3: you ain't doing that.

885
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: No man, no, no, no, Hope don't give he don't

886
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: give a ship what I'm out here doing it?

887
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: Like, hey, nigga, just son't go to jail.

888
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to get that phone called hey dog,

889
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: I need that bad money.

890
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: That's it. Other than that, nigga, don't know where I'm

891
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: mad what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying. We

892
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: all yeah, don't or you don't know me. That's it.

893
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: Like other than that, I'm out here moving and like

894
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: I said, Man, I thank Noorri for this because he

895
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: saw something that I did.

896
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: I saw it too. I just wasn't in no position. Nah,

897
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: I just didn't. No, No, that wasn't open. You can

898
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: crack it though, No, no, get the open one. No,

899
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: we don't ever want niggas think we got props.

900
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 3: No, man, my bad.

901
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: Y'all can edit that out.

902
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: No, ain't no edit nothing. We don't got no props.

903
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: You want, crack it, crack it?

904
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: God.

905
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: Oh but last time I saw hole was my first

906
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 3: season of love and hip hop. Him and Bee. Yeah,

907
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 3: you gotta remember I knew Be too. She was on

908
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: the same label.

909
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: That's that's that's that's the serious one. That's not the

910
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 2: little body.

911
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see nigga, What the put glue in this moth?

912
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 2: No, give me give me that look the shot, that's

913
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: that's you know what that is. That's called the du

914
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 2: Say touch.

915
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 3: You know, y'all do side Car is the best anybody

916
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: out there. Try and thank me later.

917
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: I'm telling you listen, if you drink vodka, tequila, anything,

918
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: any drink you mixed voka or tequila with, try it

919
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 2: one time with du Say change your life.

920
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: Welcome to the darks back to us.

921
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 3: Come on, hello, you know what I mean?

922
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: Yo, You've been public about a lot of ups and

923
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: downs and stuff like that. Like you know, you're not

924
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: one that shy away from, you know, keeping it real

925
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: and telling people what's going on with your life. And

926
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: I respect that about you because not everybody keep it transparent.

927
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: You know a lot of these people get on a

928
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: camera in front be somebody, They not kids.

929
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 1: So, like, you know what I mean, how do you manage?

930
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: Like what's the strift?

931
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: Like you the motivation and the stript you use to

932
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: keep pushing forward that maybe can help somebody else out

933
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: there in the same situation, you know what I mean?

934
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I just just I got kids to feed. Man,

935
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 3: I got family to take care of. So my motivation

936
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: is the kids and just trying.

937
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: To do that.

938
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 3: It is a little fucked up when you you know

939
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: your kids, like my kids are getting older now and

940
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 3: they're like.

941
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 1: Yo, why'd you do that show?

942
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 3: Why did you you know the ones that was on

943
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 3: the show with me? Dam why would you do that

944
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 3: to mom? Those are the questions that you got to.

945
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 3: That's the hard part is up seeing that now and

946
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 3: then you know the hero was really not doing right

947
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 3: by their mother. That's tough, but you just got to

948
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 3: keep it pushing.

949
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: Man.

950
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: I'm not and we joke a lot, but I'm not

951
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: proud when when little kids run up on me in

952
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 3: the street, go squad too. That's not a good example

953
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 3: to set for man. But you know, look, don't let

954
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 3: your kids watch it, man, just like you wouldn't let

955
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: your kids watch certain things, see certain things. There's certain

956
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: things they shouldn't see, and there's.

957
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: Nothing you could do.

958
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 3: I know what I know, bleak man is no matter

959
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 3: how bad it look to people, it ain't no malice

960
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 3: in my heart for nothing of nobody.

961
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: That's right.

962
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: I'm not that dude. I'm gonna do that if you.

963
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 3: I'm just a man. That's why you used to be

964
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 3: like you always keep saying you're not a thug, because

965
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm a man. You can find out I'm

966
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 3: a mama man anytime you want.

967
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: Square.

968
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm not, but I don't claim to be.

969
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 3: I never was comfortable claiming none of that, none of

970
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 3: that shit. Even even when the gun charge or people

971
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 3: shooting at you and you get shower whatever. You never

972
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: hear me really talk a lot about that because that's

973
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: not really allowed to brag about. You know, I've done it.

974
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 3: I've done it in the past. But a man, I

975
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 3: play guitar, all right, ron seeing you.

976
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 2: Man, I be seeing you killing the guitar in the ground. Man, Yeah,

977
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: I get drums.

978
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 3: And but but if if, if you push, I think

979
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: any real man is gonna go do what you gotta do.

980
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: Any real man.

981
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: Watching you play the like the instruments, you know, I

982
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 2: know God's drummers like Tony Royster. Shout out my guy,

983
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: Tony Royster Junior and make me think about back of

984
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: the day.

985
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: I gave my shot at trying to play instrument. You

986
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

987
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: I used to play the trumpet today in school, you

988
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But then the movie Mo Better

989
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 2: Blues came out than Zel Washington, one of my favorites,

990
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: and his name ironically had to be Bleak, and they

991
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: hit him in the head with the trumpet.

992
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: I put the trumpet away, said they had never do

993
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:55,479
Speaker 1: that to me, So then that inspire me never play

994
00:43:55,520 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: the trumpet about that. Yeah, that was bleaking. They hit

995
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: oh ship, I never thought about that.

996
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: I'm telling you see, I should scar you man, word

997
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: up shot my trumpet dreams down.

998
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: Man Like, God damn dis out Holy Dawn for bleed

999
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: about that.

1000
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 3: That's one of my favorite movie from Spike. Lee's not

1001
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 3: my favorite. I love because I'm a musician. First, yeah,

1002
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: that's right, first before rapping up with I'm a musician.

1003
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: So I thought he was smooth. He had he had

1004
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 3: the two See see how these movies with your.

1005
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 1: Head had yo? But Yo, another thing, right.

1006
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: Hold on, I'm gonna say this. I used to be like,

1007
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 3: they only know tiring to mean if they knew my whole.

1008
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: Ship, but you had to start five and no, I'm.

1009
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: Just saying my story is just said my ship was crazy.

1010
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: One thing though, man Like, we got this guy out

1011
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: here right in New York. We call him O g

1012
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 2: Rush right. He on everything he's he's really getting.

1013
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: To that super super super duper bag.

1014
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: He on all the little Italys people, all the little

1015
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: Italy's pizzas and papaya dogs, all of that, right, Yo, listen,

1016
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: he told me one thing that always stuck with me.

1017
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: Your bleak.

1018
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: You can't pick the family you born into, but you

1019
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 2: could pick the family you create.

1020
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: So you make sure you pick wisely.

1021
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: And looking at you no matter what you did, and

1022
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: all the ship we all done, dirt, Bro, you.

1023
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: Got two good mothers. Man, that's not easy. Bro. They're

1024
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: great mothers at the end of the day.

1025
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: Man, incredible, Like, so I got to that's a blessing

1026
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 3: kids before those kids. That's why people know me from

1027
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 3: you got Corey?

1028
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, ko, And that's another thing. Let's get into Cory guns.

1029
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: Right.

1030
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: You know how they like athletes want to pass their

1031
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: genetics to their kids and they don't all they don't

1032
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: always go.

1033
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: That way, Like it's like, yeah, my kid ain't ship.

1034
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: I got. My kid is shitty. Right.

1035
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: We ain't got to name no names because I might

1036
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: want to interview their pots all day.

1037
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: We ain't gonnahit, I go body, but my g.

1038
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: You fucking birthed one of the illess lyricists in that

1039
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: time of hip hop, bro, and you one of the

1040
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: illness lyricists.

1041
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: So father like son to both be super super dope.

1042
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: How that feel to look at your son and no,

1043
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: damn my son killing shit?

1044
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I mean, I'm super proud of who he was.

1045
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: And you know when he got when he was a man,

1046
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: so his mom's left when.

1047
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: He was a kid.

1048
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 3: Corey came to South seventeen. His mom, we was young,

1049
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 3: she had issues. She she left basically early, and Corey

1050
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 3: like so Corey. I raised Corey with my mother, and

1051
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 3: my mother's rules were you gonna be a father, You're

1052
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: gonna live with us, but you're gonna do it so

1053
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 3: all emergency room visits, all the sudden.

1054
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: He was with me all the time.

1055
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: Anybody that grew up with me, and tell you this,

1056
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 3: little nigga always had a kid with him, Wegg's little brother.

1057
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: So Corey would be in the studio everything. Corey was

1058
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: studying the best man. I only listened to lyricists, So

1059
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: when I saw Corey want the rap, I would give

1060
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 3: Corey projects. Yo, you're gonna do this song called Brick

1061
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 3: in the Wall by Pink Floy. You're gonna but his

1062
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 3: drugs in the wall. You're gonna say you have the

1063
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 3: drugs in the war. Just still things, patterns. I would

1064
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 3: tell him. I would put a high hat or a

1065
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 3: drum on something right to that, and then I'm gonna

1066
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 3: take it out. People wouldn't wonder where you wrote, how

1067
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 3: you what made you write that, and just long and

1068
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 3: on stilling them. But they became a point where once

1069
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 3: I got on and I got and things were left.

1070
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 3: I said, I don't want my kid to rap.

1071
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: It was, oh, you didn't want them to even rap.

1072
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 3: It was Treik that really kept coming to me. I

1073
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 3: gotta give Tarik props for that, props for shack. Treik

1074
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: kept coming to me saying, Pete man on, you ignoring

1075
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 3: this nigga man, He's nice and coming from tarikas Treka's

1076
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 3: my favorite rapper, the dead, nice voice and everything, so

1077
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 3: I would I was ignoring Corey Corey. Tarik kept pushing Corey.

1078
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 3: I didn't even see his voice was high pitched. But

1079
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: Tarik is such a like line owned and on skills

1080
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 3: level that he was like you sleeping on your own, son, bro,

1081
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 3: And then he started doing stuff on his own and

1082
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 3: the next thing you know, the bus came up. He

1083
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 3: just smack DVD this way.

1084
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 1: I want to say.

1085
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: The whole world was paying attention to call, like all

1086
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 3: the labels were calling me off the hook, and I

1087
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 3: was just like, cal this is this business could be

1088
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 3: fucked up. You don't want your kid to go through

1089
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 3: highs and lows in his business. And I was hoping

1090
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 3: to do something else, but I saw that there was

1091
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 3: there was nothing else he could do.

1092
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: This's what he's supposed to do. So that's how I happened.

1093
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: That's what's up, man.

1094
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 2: I respect that my g Damn man, Corey is a

1095
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 2: fucking assassin out here.

1096
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: Bro. Yeah, he's something else.

1097
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 3: I just did a song with Corey for my new project,

1098
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 3: and I made sure I did a slow record where

1099
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 3: we don't have to show our skills because I used

1100
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 3: to be a time I can hang with him, man,

1101
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: but this nigga is something different now method man and

1102
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 3: his son doing the project. You know, me and Corey

1103
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 3: to do a joint on it together, like he's trying

1104
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 3: to do a song with all the fathers and sons.

1105
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 3: But I definitely want to do a project with Corey,

1106
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 3: you know. That's that's on the that's on the bucket list.

1107
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 3: We always talk about it. We flirt with different songs.

1108
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 3: But right now I'm doing a project that way. I'm

1109
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 3: playing the instruments and doing you know, a lot of

1110
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 3: live music. Shoutut to my people in La Mike, Brent

1111
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: and Jesse and but been working on a live project.

1112
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 3: I'm dropping on my birthday January sixth oh. But it's different,

1113
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 3: It's left it ain't it ain't. It's called Billy White.

1114
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 3: I'm coming under the name Billy White.

1115
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: That's why that.

1116
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 2: That explains a little bit too on why you wow

1117
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: because you got a birthday right after New Year as

1118
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: soon as anybody like, yo.

1119
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm broke. I can't go out.

1120
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: So crazy, right you like I got a wild out

1121
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: on New Year's act like it's my birthday a week before.

1122
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: That's how one of my homies is his birthday is

1123
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: two days after Christmas.

1124
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: Man, it was always tough.

1125
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 3: I feel bad for y'all, but I would say this,

1126
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 3: I always love. I always love. The winter was always

1127
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 3: my favorite time because Christmas, Thanksgiving, my birthday and all

1128
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 3: that shit. But more than that, the crime rate and

1129
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 3: the bronx. Try niggas must not like the cold, but

1130
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 3: the crime rate would drop in the winter because every

1131
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: summer I was losing two three friends and ship. So

1132
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 3: because it was rough in the bronx.

1133
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: Man, but serious New York City, boy, it's always people.

1134
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 3: I used to be like, I don't know why winter

1135
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 3: is my favorite season.

1136
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 1: I hate the cold like that.

1137
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 3: But somebody said, nigga, because it's the crime and I said,

1138
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 3: you're right, man, And that's what me because I don't

1139
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 3: love the cold no more. But back then it was

1140
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 3: that it was it was like, damn, at least everybody chilling.

1141
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy.

1142
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 2: You text me today he was like, yo, yo, we're

1143
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: still good for I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm out here

1144
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: in your hood right now.

1145
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm in south of you doing I'm in south of

1146
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: you doing research. Yo. Literally Yo, I'm in the car

1147
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: with my man because he gives me.

1148
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 2: He give me an address right so you know, it's

1149
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: the houses over there by Salvage.

1150
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: That's where Tarik is from.

1151
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: So I come around on the other side where I

1152
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: ain't see the project. So it's like, oh, this is

1153
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 2: cool over here. So we riding so I see the

1154
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 2: cop to.

1155
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: The middle of the project. So I'm like, damn, what

1156
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: projects is this? They got the cops.

1157
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: In the middle of the project in the daytime with

1158
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: the lights on. So I'm like, what projects is this?

1159
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: Yo.

1160
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 2: As I'm saying that to him, we ride by the

1161
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 2: sad that the sign the project sign Soundview.

1162
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: I said, oh, that explains.

1163
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 3: It, Like, yo, and my aunt lived in Soundview Projects,

1164
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 3: so I would have to stay there sometime.

1165
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm up.

1166
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 3: Now listen, man, this is what a lot of people

1167
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 3: don't know. I'll be telling Tarika them this too. My

1168
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 3: building wasn't the projects. Tarika lived in. The Projects is

1169
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 3: sound Sound View was right over the right over the

1170
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 3: bridge from My aunt lived in there, so my mother

1171
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 3: would send me over there when our lights was out

1172
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 3: and the water wasn't right. They always had heat and

1173
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 3: hot water, had a little playground of playing.

1174
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: We ain't had that.

1175
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 3: So when niggas been like, oh, I grew up in

1176
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 3: the project, No nigga grow up where I grew up

1177
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 3: at where you had to maybe go to the fire

1178
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 3: hundred gets the water to warm, or when the lights

1179
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 3: is out because nobody pay their rent, the landlord can't

1180
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 3: get no oil. I grew up on that kind of shit.

1181
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 3: Projects was project was sweet to me. I get the lights, heat,

1182
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: fucking the playground in the back. So I grew up

1183
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 3: rougher than them niggas, and I always tell them, But however,

1184
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: Samdview is a different ball game. Shout out to all

1185
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: my niggas, is sam View money boss, shout the sex

1186
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 3: money murder.

1187
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: I might go to jail for saying that. No man

1188
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: shout them shout the beato man.

1189
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 3: Bemo was working on his documentary I'm On that he's

1190
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 3: working on a series shout out to be more shot

1191
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 3: the sex money listen. I never blooded in. It was

1192
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 3: always bulletproof love the time I came in. But I

1193
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 3: wore the red to as a lose. If you look

1194
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 3: at my video hold red leather suit, even though whole

1195
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 3: screamed on me. One day he said, my nigga, who

1196
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 3: got three numbers on a on a on a baseballers.

1197
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: Your chill? Hold? The only one would notice some ship

1198
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: like that too?

1199
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 2: Was I.

1200
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 3: Saw it one time on the road. He said, my

1201
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 3: nigga three numbers under you know, damn it. And we

1202
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 3: used to always be sarcasting. That was the first time

1203
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 3: Hold says.

1204
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 2: Something, Yo, that's crazy like ship being from the Brugs

1205
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 2: birthplace of hip hop.

1206
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 1: How you feel about the state of hip hop today? Oh?

1207
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 3: Man, I don't want to sound like the old like

1208
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 3: my moms used to sound. But I can't, Man, I

1209
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 3: can't get I can't.

1210
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: I can't.

1211
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 3: But again, people always think that I'm talking about I'm

1212
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 3: talking about this no talent. I ain't, man, that's the beats,

1213
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 3: that's the beats.

1214
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: Things change.

1215
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 3: You ain't got no talent?

1216
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can agree, and I don't agree. Some of

1217
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: them do. I'm not gonna know.

1218
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 3: I'm not no, no, It's never a blanket stink, never

1219
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 3: blinking nothing. Because we had some niggas, niggas to be

1220
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 3: like nigga and this was dope because niggas that pulled

1221
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 3: down some of my lyrics. One day, I was like, damn,

1222
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 3: that was.

1223
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: You kidding me. I'll be getting crucified. I can't say that.

1224
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 3: But we know what we're talking about, and we know

1225
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 3: who we're talking about. We just don't want to throw

1226
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 3: niggas under the bus. But it's a lot of it

1227
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 3: down there. I can never get with. Bro, the way

1228
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 3: niggas is the skirts, the sound, and then you and

1229
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 3: then you're no talent, none. And this my kids be

1230
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: trying to sell me. I said, Bro, it's nothing you

1231
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 3: could do.

1232
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, my son too, my son you kidding me? The

1233
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 2: ship he listened to and be like, Yo, Dad, this

1234
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: is dude. He's the best.

1235
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: It's like, oh God, He'll.

1236
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: Be looking at him like you sure you mine? Like

1237
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 2: I don't even know what they're saying.

1238
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 3: I try to find it. I try to go all right,

1239
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: let me see what a couple of the little diamonds.

1240
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,959
Speaker 2: A couple of them got it, man, don't get me wrong.

1241
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: Like the little Dirks was he he had it?

1242
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1243
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 3: Look, I just don't That's another thing I don't like, Bro.

1244
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: I don't like the I don't like the telling, that

1245
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 3: telling I killed you.

1246
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: I smoked.

1247
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 3: When somebody's saying I'm smoking on a fifteen year old,

1248
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 3: sixteen year old kid, I can't fuck with that. It's

1249
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 3: that though, whenever they say they smoking on the pack.

1250
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they was the same age. Bro, it wasn't

1251
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: the kid they killed.

1252
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 3: It was a it's just yo week it would be fifteen.

1253
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 2: I've wrapped, but they this team. Listen in the street law,

1254
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: you picked that pistol up. I don't care how old

1255
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 2: you are, just that's your street law. But the smoking

1256
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: on the pack of right, telling on yourself, telling on you.

1257
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: We didn't do that.

1258
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 3: But but if you can't say, as grown men still

1259
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 3: saying I'm smoking on this kid.

1260
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can't say niggas didn't be like Yo,

1261
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 2: such and such die crack that bottle, nigga. We celebrating.

1262
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 2: We just didn't have Instagram, We just didn't have the music.

1263
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 3: Just the enemy saying that this the enemy, saying we

1264
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 3: smoking on them because they're getting that high. They just say,

1265
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 3: niggas pouring out a trip. You fuck you talking about

1266
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 3: they they we we poured.

1267
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: Out was a trip.

1268
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 2: I'm talking about niggas celebrating ops dying too, is that

1269
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 2: they killed, not on record.

1270
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm talking about just being on the blackhood. That's different, bro,

1271
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: That's what I said.

1272
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: We just didn't have Instagram and we just didn't make

1273
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 2: music about that. These kids just going about it the

1274
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: wrong way. But it's the same thing niggas did on

1275
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 2: the block. Niggas spend down to go clip a nigga

1276
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: at a party that they've been trying to hit for

1277
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 2: a minute to come back to the hood, and like, yeah,

1278
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: we got them.

1279
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 3: Niggas is celebrating on Instagram.

1280
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that, but but I just said

1281
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: they going about it the wrong way.

1282
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 3: Yes, and it's whack, Like you give them niggas a past.

1283
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I can agree. I was young, get crazy.

1284
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 2: My niggas is young and crazy too.

1285
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: Yo.

1286
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: I just told one of my homies, like I grew

1287
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 2: up with some of the wireless niggas that I used

1288
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: to look at them niggas as a kid and be like, man,

1289
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 2: I'm glad I know you, my man, that I ain't

1290
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 2: gotta go again to a nigga like you, like you

1291
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 2: on my team, like cause I grew up with some animals,

1292
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 2: my nigga, like, we'll be here all night.

1293
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: I know, but that's what I'm saying.

1294
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 2: So you can't say niggas celebrate in a win or

1295
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 2: or whatever they consider a when bad how celebrate just.

1296
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I just hate seeing them go

1297
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 3: to jail.

1298
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,959
Speaker 1: I hate that. I hate the kids making too much money.

1299
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 3: Somebody mom, seeing somebody smoking, they son up to the

1300
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 3: that sh just I don't know what. Just don't sit well.

1301
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, all those facts, I agree with you.

1302
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all. But other than that, I just miss

1303
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 3: it again. I'm the old man.

1304
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: Oh this nigga, just nigga.

1305
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 2: I'm creeping. I'm creeping to the fifth flow too. I'm

1306
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: three flights down. Don't worry, I'll be on the fifth

1307
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: flow real.

1308
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 3: But I don't like to sound like the hating old nigga.

1309
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,439
Speaker 2: I hate none, man, definitely, just a lot of shit

1310
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: I just can't fuck with.

1311
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: From like a lot of these artists now, I am

1312
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: aged out, Like to what you No, man, you ain't

1313
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: aged out. Never. We vintage off. Like maybe what you're

1314
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: saying is.

1315
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 2: Right because a lot of the like with the talent,

1316
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 2: because a lot of artists today go viral for content

1317
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: over craft.

1318
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Corey would have been on fire when it

1319
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 3: first came out, had I did what they told me

1320
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 3: to do. But I was glad that I'll let him

1321
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 3: make that decision. He was like, he's two. He got

1322
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 3: dumb it down.

1323
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: Mm, he's too good.

1324
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. He gotta dumb it down. So Corey, Corey

1325
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 3: is on the level of an eminem. Sorry, people gonna

1326
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 3: kill me for that.

1327
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: A kid.

1328
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 3: And and they wanted him to do a record like

1329
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 3: Homework one, one to the two, to the three, to

1330
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 3: the four. That's what they literally, that's what they told

1331
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 3: me at the office.

1332
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: We need one of these.

1333
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, but you know, listen, one thing about labels,

1334
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 2: they don't know think about it. They telling you go

1335
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 2: home and imitate somebody else. That'll let you know right there,

1336
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: they don't know.

1337
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: You can't.

1338
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 2: That's not how you make music. It's imitate imitates life,

1339
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 2: not other people.

1340
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 3: I agree, But what they was trying to do. In

1341
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 3: other words, what they're trying to say is he would

1342
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 3: have been a star in your time with this skill

1343
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 3: level where we are now, he needs one of these.

1344
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 2: Business No disrespect the homie who made one to the three,

1345
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: to the foe man. He got his bread up right,

1346
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 2: he got his bad he's straight. But in music, where

1347
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: is he today? Guns is still here?

1348
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: And the executives that told you that, I'm pretty sure

1349
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: they not there. No more. No executives is around. This

1350
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to tell you.

1351
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: So what you do, like like I told Gun when

1352
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 2: he sat here, man like, you know, dumb down for people.

1353
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: People got the smart enough for you. You know what

1354
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: I mean? That's just real ship man Like, that's.

1355
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 3: A decision I let to make though, I said, listen,

1356
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 3: and he made a couple of yo. Shout out to Guru, man.

1357
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 3: I cannot Guru had Corey's back from a million times.

1358
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 3: I cannot leave that out. Man, shout Guru. I love you,

1359
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 3: bro y'all.

1360
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 2: I remember when Gun first signed the Rockefeller I spoke

1361
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: to you you like, Yo, I appreciate y'all.

1362
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: Man hold my son down because he.

1363
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 3: Said, he said, he said, he said, he spoke to you,

1364
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 3: you greenlit.

1365
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, listen, gun we need him man, I'm mad.

1366
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 2: It was the transition to Rock and Fell at that

1367
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 2: time when Jay was going to death jam.

1368
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: So a lot of shit happened at that time.

1369
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 3: I think it was a lot of things for him, man,

1370
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm j hold on because I got

1371
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 3: to clear this some A lot of people don't notice.

1372
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 3: Tommy with Tola asked Jay to sign court. We were

1373
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 3: signing Tommy. He said, I think you can help this kid.

1374
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 3: They don't get it, but you got to remember when

1375
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 3: we got there, everybody was on hole hole got it.

1376
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: We need, we need, we need.

1377
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 3: And I went to have a meeting with him and

1378
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 3: it was a line around the corner like the god

1379
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 3: Remember the Godfather. Everybody was having the time.

1380
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: Everybody was saying there yup.

1381
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 3: Be was even in the office. So I was like,

1382
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 3: we in Guru office, waiting for our term like everybody else.

1383
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 3: So I can say what's going on with Core. And

1384
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 3: one of the young gunners was there and he was

1385
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 3: waiting for his time and he was like really complaining

1386
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 3: the gurgle. I don't know them. I never really met them, man,

1387
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 3: just no no shade to them. They was there to

1388
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 3: see Hole for something. Yeah, and they had to wait

1389
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 3: and it was like frustrating for them, and I was

1390
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 3: I looked at car I said, yo, if he's just

1391
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 3: having a hard time, that niggas having a hard time

1392
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 3: of it. We need to get up out of here.

1393
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 3: So when I got the whole office, he was sitting

1394
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 3: on this side of the desk and I was over

1395
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 3: there and he said, come over here.

1396
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: M h.

1397
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 3: I don't even feel right talking to you from behind

1398
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 3: his desk and he was like, what do you want

1399
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 3: to do man? I said, Yo, we just gonna get

1400
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 3: about of here. M He said, it's cold out there,

1401
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 3: my nigga.

1402
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: You sure?

1403
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 3: I said yeah, because in my mom we gonna just

1404
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 3: walk to another deal. Because Corey was like that, he

1405
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 3: was like, is that what you want? Won't you just

1406
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 3: turn him up in the building and they'll get behind him.

1407
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 3: I was like, nah, man, we just get up. He said,

1408
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. Meet me at Cllo and we'll

1409
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 3: talk about this and llo. So I met him at Cello.

1410
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 3: He said, what you want to say, just give us

1411
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 3: the rest of the budget to eat on.

1412
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: Let us get the music.

1413
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 3: And I asked for one more thing.

1414
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: He said done.

1415
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 3: He made called Jay Brown said make this happen, and

1416
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 3: that's how we got out of here. And you know,

1417
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 3: he went to Young Money. But long story short, it

1418
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 3: was he didn't have to do that. They could have

1419
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 3: just fucking held us on. But he's let me know,

1420
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 3: I'm leaving. So whatever you want to happen need to happen.

1421
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: Now. Oh, let us out.

1422
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 3: No, that's a fact. And so you know, shout out.

1423
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 3: People got a lot of shit to say, but that

1424
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 3: man let us go.

1425
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: At first.

1426
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 3: He could have been like, nah, turn him up in

1427
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 3: the building, figure it out.

1428
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: He was like no. But you know I knew him

1429
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: before all of this. We toured together, bro.

1430
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 2: I remember when we had a old nigga and y'all

1431
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 2: had the major, major, major smoker. He was coming out

1432
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 2: first and y'all was shutting it down the after like

1433
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 2: they was giving me advice.

1434
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 3: Then, yeah, like don't don't because I was doing a

1435
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 3: separate album tarik. He saying, nah, y'all got to stay together,

1436
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 3: do another one. But you know, it was so so

1437
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 3: when seeing him in the office, was it It didn't

1438
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 3: feel right for us to be having that kind of conversation. Yeah,

1439
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 3: and I felt niggas say, how could you feel bad

1440
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 3: for him? I felt bad because when you get in

1441
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 3: a position you got to tell. Even the people like

1442
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 3: niggas he knew a hundred years before me. He got

1443
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 3: to be like, yo, I'm he's trying to It was

1444
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 3: the I wouldn't have wanted that job.

1445
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: I saw that.

1446
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 2: I was like, that's why when he sat that line,

1447
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 2: heaviest they had that way as the crown.

1448
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, he ain't never fucking but I knew he leaven.

1449
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 3: We need to get the fuck out of here now

1450
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 3: because they don't care about I think the only reason

1451
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 3: I'm even behind this meeting with Ja is because of Jah.

1452
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 3: So if he leave Google going with him, who the fuck?

1453
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 3: We got the same people telling us what we need

1454
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 3: to do. So I just I took the I took

1455
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 3: the you know. We walked up. We went to a

1456
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 3: couple of labels and they was like, no, I said, damn,

1457
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:18,439
Speaker 3: Jay was right, it's cold out here.

1458
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, industry and yeah. More. Shout out to my nephew, Jim.

1459
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 3: I never give him credit, but Jim was out in

1460
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 3: New Orleans and talking to mac Maine and one Corey

1461
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 3: free agent, and so I think my nephew Jim is

1462
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 3: the real reason that Corey got signed.

1463
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 2: That's what something man shout out McMahon, Wayne and them.

1464
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 2: That's sure, man, Like fucking one thing I wanted to

1465
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 2: add on to. You know, a lot of people got

1466
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 2: a lot of negative ship to say about J but

1467
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 2: Jay in business and I feel like this is this

1468
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 2: is the guy on this truth. And I'm not saying

1469
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 2: this because this is my brother. I practice what I preach.

1470
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 2: J business model to me has always been honesty and

1471
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 2: integrity with everything. He ain't never robbed nobody. And I

1472
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 2: did the same thing with my artists. Like I remember,

1473
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 2: you know when I signed Casting over Manolo Rose and

1474
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: all these other artists that I signed, you know, Huey

1475
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 2: V everybody. You know that three sixty deal came out.

1476
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 2: Everybody wanted publishing, everybody wanted this. Everybody wanted that. I

1477
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,919
Speaker 2: never I told people, Listen, the same deal I had

1478
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 2: is the same deal I gave all my artists, right,

1479
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying where we don't touch none

1480
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 2: of that. So we kept it fair across the border.

1481
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 2: And that's one thing how I was raised. So I

1482
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 2: like that what you say, like, how let anybody that

1483
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 2: has anything bad to say about the dude brown?

1484
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, because how could you not be proud of this

1485
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 3: dude coming from where we And when I say where

1486
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 3: we come from, I'm not talking about just I'm talking

1487
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 3: about New York, the streets that like if I just

1488
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 3: from the bottom man and still even at one spot

1489
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 3: for me. You know, there's certain rappers when they do

1490
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 3: a top five and you can put them in that position,

1491
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 3: and I want to argue with you. You can say,

1492
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 3: your guns my top five, Andre Thou. I'm not gonna

1493
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 3: argue that's right. I got kissing my top five.

1494
01:04:59,280 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: That's right.

1495
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 3: He's been in the one spot for me.

1496
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: So but it's hard, yo. Let me say this to you.

1497
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 3: When you when you got what you got and you

1498
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 3: and you that level of an artist, it's uh, you know,

1499
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 3: and then people say you New York, y'all, just jay

1500
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 3: Z for y'all New York. You know, I got three

1501
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 3: thousands in my in my five as well. You know

1502
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 3: that's scar Face is my favorite storyteller. Him and Slick

1503
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 3: Rick Tupac from New York. But they say about that

1504
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 3: he is from New York, baby New York.

1505
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is from New York. My bad fucked up.

1506
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 2: I fucked up, my bad. West Coast took him from us.

1507
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 3: Now, yeah they got where you say hot jack. I

1508
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 3: always tell people go google it. His first rap name

1509
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 3: was New York.

1510
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: That's right.

1511
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, so no, so you know you got you

1512
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 3: got that going on. But at the same time, that's

1513
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 3: what comes with the territory. When you're hot, man, that's

1514
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen.

1515
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: That's a fact.

1516
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 2: Even sometimes when it's all set and done, the smoke class,

1517
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 2: everything done, your home, chilling your shot Scotch, playing my game,

1518
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 2: sitting on the on the back porch. What you want

1519
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 2: them to remember or say about Peter Guns He was he.

1520
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: Was we said he was.

1521
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 3: He was honest, he's real, never tried to front like

1522
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 3: he was something he wasn't. And just that's it. You know,

1523
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 3: we all flawed. You know, I'm definitely flawed. There's definitely

1524
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 3: things there that's flawed. But remember me as somebody that

1525
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 3: always kept in the hunting and I'm comfortable with that.

1526
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 3: When lose a drawer, hate me, you know what I mean,

1527
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 3: But a man mostly I'm not to be played with.

1528
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 3: That's what some man ship and I'm honest, and I

1529
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 3: just and I honestly like to see my brothers winning.

1530
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 3: I think I think that's what bothered me about my

1531
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 3: people mostly were we are worst ending me man.

1532
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: That's a fact. That's a fact.

1533
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 2: That's why I don't knock learning the young guys. Even

1534
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 2: if I don't listen to the music, I still give

1535
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 2: them that string. Why they get into that bag. You know,

1536
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 2: my son want to go to the show. We're gonna

1537
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 2: get them tickets. Yeah, like you know what I mean,

1538
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 2: I'm going I'm gonna support all day.

1539
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 1: Man.

1540
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 3: But I just wish it was different, you know what

1541
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 3: I mean. I wish it was different because it's us

1542
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 3: on us and a lot of a lot of shit

1543
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 3: they do and bleak. They wouldn't be in no other nationality.

1544
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: That's and I think they wouldn't let that flop.

1545
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 2: I think it's just because music, how accessible music is.

1546
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: No.

1547
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 3: I think it's like I think, we don't have no

1548
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 3: control over what they put out there for our kids.

1549
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 3: Look at the end of the day, this is controlled

1550
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,439
Speaker 3: and it is so. If they had to put out

1551
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 3: more positive, more more skillful, more talent, that's what they

1552
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 3: would do. But Nah, the machine likes this. Yeah, kill

1553
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 3: each other. Go ahead and say this to say that

1554
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 3: mumbo nigga take drugs.

1555
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: Tell them that's what it is.

1556
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 3: Do this, do that to make every lyric about fucking

1557
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 3: and popping drugs, and you know that they control that, bro,

1558
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 3: they now give it.

1559
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you.

1560
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna cut you off because you can't say that

1561
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 2: nobody told you get on TV and emulate the same

1562
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 2: thing we're rapping about. You just ain't killed nobody what

1563
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 2: you said, the talk about the fucking in this, So

1564
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: you can't say, no one goes in the studio like,

1565
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 2: think about it, that I win't made souls called hustlers.

1566
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 2: Who the fuck?

1567
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 1: What?

1568
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 2: What bounce bitch round here? Nobody Leo told me not

1569
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 2: to put round here out that.

1570
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't a single I got. The answer for that.

1571
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 3: Is including TV, including what I'm doing. Yeah, that wouldn't

1572
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,560
Speaker 3: fly nowhere else in certain places, the ship that we

1573
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 3: be doing. You're making my point, even TV and all that,

1574
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 3: if somebody was to go nah, we not example, in China,

1575
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 3: they can't go in there and see who work the best.

1576
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 3: They contested who could solve this goddamn calculus.

1577
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 2: It's dictatorship, bro, But hold on, you have freedom of

1578
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 2: speech here.

1579
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 1: No, one can't compare that country.

1580
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is, even here, there's certain things

1581
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:45,919
Speaker 3: that wouldn't fly for certain ethnicity.

1582
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 2: But there's certain things in other countries that don't fly here.

1583
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 2: Because you will go to London somewhere and see some

1584
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 2: chick with her titties out on the phone commercial that

1585
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 2: that all never fly here. It should wow, my thoughter,

1586
01:08:58,120 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 2: don't need to be looking at no boobs on it?

1587
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: After the commercial say it can't.

1588
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 3: Could you could walk through Time Square with no shirt on?

1589
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 3: A woman could anytime?

1590
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: She? Yeah, I know, but my daughter don't live in

1591
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 1: Tomes Square.

1592
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 3: But what I'm what I'm saying is but the ship,

1593
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,600
Speaker 3: that the ship that might be programming her might be

1594
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 3: worse than that.

1595
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 2: No, we don't play the programming we play. We program

1596
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,480
Speaker 2: in my house, we program. We don't do the programming.

1597
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 2: Like nothing calls my daughter. You know what calls my

1598
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 2: daughter a book?

1599
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: That's good? You know what I'm saying, that's a buck.

1600
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 3: But she got the opportunity at some point to go

1601
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 3: in there and.

1602
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: See what it is.

1603
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely she go check cut to torials on how

1604
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 2: to make shit.

1605
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 1: That's one thing I love about my daughter.

1606
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 2: She want to She want to be an inventor so

1607
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 2: bad that this girl makes shit out of paper napkins.

1608
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 1: It's like word up.

1609
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 2: She want to invent some ship. It's like, gad, girl,

1610
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 2: invent it. I'm gonna pay for it. Don't you worry.

1611
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 2: Soon as you make the right right.

1612
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 3: You got a lot of parents ain't programmed like that.

1613
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,719
Speaker 2: Because I wanted to break the curse. Like it's nobody

1614
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 2: in my family that was married. So that's why I

1615
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 2: knew I wanted to be the first one. I'm gonna

1616
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:00,560
Speaker 2: do it.

1617
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna break this curt so certain thing be married.

1618
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: This would be my tenth year. This year, do it? Man?

1619
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: You mean man?

1620
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 2: The recipe is I met someone that's that's just identical

1621
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 2: to me. She agreed to everything that we both have

1622
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 2: the same views and values and cherish the same things.

1623
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 1: Only thing we don't agree on I smoke. We she

1624
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: eat mushrooms. Hey, you feel.

1625
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 2: Other than that, everything else is in common, and I

1626
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: feel like we talk about everything, like like I got homies.

1627
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 2: That's my homies, my dogs where I tell everything and

1628
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 2: I feel like this is the first time I met

1629
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 2: a woman who is closer than that. Yeah, you know

1630
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like I can tell anything and.

1631
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: Never be judged or never be looked at it. So

1632
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 1: I knew, I knew.

1633
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know that's that's I gotta be

1634
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 3: honest with you.

1635
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: I never had it.

1636
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 3: I didn't start smoking and drinking cigars till I was

1637
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 3: in my forties, Nika twenty five. Because I came up

1638
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 3: with brothers like that. I gave to mother my word.

1639
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 3: I will never do nothing. But women has been the

1640
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 3: hardest thing for me.

1641
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: It's been. It's been the.

1642
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 3: Hardest thing for me to to to be faithful and

1643
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 3: just chill with one woman. That's been nothing. I think

1644
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 3: that's the hardest task I ever had in my life.

1645
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: Man, No, it's it's tough.

1646
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 2: Bro. You just gotta what they say, avoid temptation. Yeah,

1647
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. You gotta stay away. Like

1648
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 2: Friday night, I'm going bowling. I ain't going to the club.

1649
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 1: You feel me? In fact certain he will. He want

1650
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 1: to go.

1651
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 3: He want to go to the club. I want to

1652
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 3: go both.

1653
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 1: This nigga got his own nigga. He runs ship.

1654
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 3: I ain't got nothing, but I.

1655
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 1: Love my niggas yo, I swear yo. I love doing better.

1656
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 3: Now though, But this nigga used to run ship.

1657
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: Yo.

1658
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 2: So what's next? My g you don't call the music

1659
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 2: media what's next? On the ring invent during the reinvention

1660
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 2: of Peter Guns. What's next? When you said you're working

1661
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 2: on music?

1662
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 3: I got this joint called The Diary of Billy White,

1663
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 3: got a song run dropping on my birthday.

1664
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: It's a rock so every six man, I remember that.

1665
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 3: That's right, Insurrection Day that's coming January sixth. It's totally

1666
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 3: left field, but it's the difference with what I'm doing

1667
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:20,759
Speaker 3: now is what I want to do. It's not like, yo, good,

1668
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 3: you need to do a record like this and this

1669
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 3: and that. Me in the studio with my guitar, my

1670
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,719
Speaker 3: boys jamming and we just man, I don't care nobody.

1671
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 1: I'm doing it for me, So it's all up.

1672
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 3: Shooting the TV show was shot called graves In.

1673
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 1: That's right. Shout out shock, shout out. Sigu was telling

1674
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 1: me about the scenes, may too, right graves In.

1675
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 2: I ain't getting no I ain't getting no role. They

1676
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,600
Speaker 2: could have even killed me. I could have been a body.

1677
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 1: They were love. I could have been up in the pack.

1678
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 3: Listen, Big Daddy Kane is on it too. Special shout

1679
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:52,919
Speaker 3: the specially big.

1680
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 1: Shout Out Special Big Daddy King.

1681
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,759
Speaker 3: Funny story is this from Brooklyn's Graves in Brooklyn, somebody

1682
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 3: even mentioned your name, They're gonna go crazy.

1683
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: But I could have been a pat Oh you in.

1684
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 3: They would love that. Anybody from Brooklyn can get on

1685
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 3: the shows. Brooklyn, Brooklyn call them niggas.

1686
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: Pull up, I'm there whatever, let me know I'm there.

1687
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 2: That's done, so gad, I cut you off my bag

1688
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 2: and then you know, Yeah, they used to tell me.

1689
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: That when I first started bleak, stop being like normal.

1690
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 1: You cutting the guests off, let them talk.

1691
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 3: Stepping so you step on somebody with that happened a

1692
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 3: hip hop y'all stepping on each other. So yeah, so

1693
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 3: I think Graves in Diary and Billy White the rock Star.

1694
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 3: I'm doing a bunch of content, and then of course

1695
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 3: I'm getting the studio with Corey messing around.

1696
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: But I got a lot of.

1697
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 3: Content coming out too early to talk about. But yeah,

1698
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 3: that's I know. I'm leaving out somebody. I got a

1699
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 3: shout Jane Smith, my manager, Alex and the whole crew

1700
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,719
Speaker 3: they all, you know, King Hamilton, they all been holding

1701
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 3: me down. They believe in me, and that's hard to

1702
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 3: find this day in time. Believe it in the old

1703
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:04,799
Speaker 3: nigga try and live his dreams.

1704
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 1: So you got somebody to believe. Man, the dreams come true. Man.

1705
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: That's all it take is the belief. Bro. I swear

1706
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 1: one person to believe.

1707
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 2: I I tell niggas all the time, man, I thank

1708
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 2: God that day rest in peace. Clock can't and Jay

1709
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 2: walk through the projects because I used to tell Hove.

1710
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 2: Clark was like, let me hear what you got, so

1711
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 2: he didn't. Never said that. Clark knows God.

1712
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 3: It's my god, man, Clock just two songs of album.

1713
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: Word, that's my man. Damn man, that's what's up.

1714
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 3: Cloy time I see the clock.

1715
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 1: You ass to beat.

1716
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 3: I gave you twenty yock whatever you want.

1717
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 1: Shout to my man, Ski, you got that's right. Ski

1718
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,759
Speaker 1: produced two joints on the Diary of Billy White. Myama.

1719
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 1: That's dope, man.

1720
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 2: Shout out Ski and to hook and to hook out there.

1721
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 2: Grown weed, now, yeah, man, worry out there.

1722
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: Grown weedy. Get it, you get it. That's right man.

1723
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: That's what we do.

1724
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 2: Man, y'all appreciate you pulling up man kicking it with us.

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