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Speaker 2: were talking at the end of last hour about the
Speaker 2: rash of ACL injuries this year, led by Micah Parsons
Speaker 2: and Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes got hurt that was contact in
Speaker 2: the Chargers game, Micah Parson's non contact injury. And yesterday
Speaker 2: the NFL said that they announced they're going to have
Speaker 2: a study to look at turf and these are new rules,
Speaker 2: or at least a new policy, a new approach to
Speaker 2: this and people, I think we're surprised at the number
Speaker 2: of torn acls so far this year. Thirty so far. Now,
Speaker 2: that seems like a lot. And the reason why it
Speaker 2: seems like a lot is because there's some big names
Speaker 2: in here. In twenty twenty four there were thirty eight
Speaker 2: torn acls, twenty twenty three, forty three, twenty twenty two
Speaker 2: point fifty one, twenty twenty one, fifty seven, twenty twenty
Speaker 2: forty two. You can go back to twenty thirteen there
Speaker 2: were sixty three torn acls. So it seems like we're
Speaker 2: trending down. But why can't we come up with universal
Speaker 2: fields that can prevent at least the non contact injury.
Speaker 2: So we bring in the head coach of the Chargers,
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh. Those numbers alarming to you, surprising to you.
Speaker 2: Anything we can do to improve those number of acls, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Mean that discussions big going not for a long time
Speaker 3: with the UH, with the turf and they and they
Speaker 3: they're very scientific about it. Uh, you know my understanding
Speaker 3: almost like you know stint meters in UH in golf.
Speaker 3: But those numbers, to me, I mean it's it. Uh,
Speaker 3: it's like one a year. You know, that's that's kind
Speaker 3: of my my recollection from uh, you know, from coaching
Speaker 3: all these years and and UH and playing as well
Speaker 3: as about UH, one guy and the team will get.
Speaker 4: An a c L. And it was a day where
Speaker 4: that uh, that a c L would be career ending.
Speaker 3: You know, think back then, Yeah, you know Gail Sayers
Speaker 3: and uh and now uh you know it's uh advancements
Speaker 3: in UH in safety and medical UH you know, UH
Speaker 3: are are really incredible and getting getting better all the time.
Speaker 2: But when you were at Michigan, all of your linemen
Speaker 2: had to wear braces, knee braces, Yes, that was that
Speaker 2: was And how preventative is that? I know Jake Buds
Speaker 2: got hurt and Blake Korum you know got hurt as well.
Speaker 2: Those are contact But did it is it that helpful
Speaker 2: in preventing a c LS?
Speaker 3: I thought so, I really did, Dan Uh, the the
Speaker 3: running backs tight ends didn't didn't wear them. But we
Speaker 3: had the defensive linemen wearing uh knee braces in practice.
Speaker 4: UH and that.
Speaker 3: Would uh it doesn't prevent prevent like a but whatever
Speaker 3: injury it would have been, it makes it a lot
Speaker 3: less in in my experience, and UH and Uh, trainers
Speaker 3: in the medical experts.
Speaker 2: What was different about the Chiefs this year as opposed
Speaker 2: to previous years.
Speaker 3: Oh, there's there's it's just the most the most historic, incredible.
Speaker 3: Uh you know job that that team has done year
Speaker 3: in year out, Andy Reid, Uh.
Speaker 4: You know the best, he's the best. Uh. Patrick Homes
Speaker 4: incredible competitor.
Speaker 3: And uh that was I was talking to one of
Speaker 3: our our assistant coaches yesterday.
Speaker 4: And if we could just do half, we could just.
Speaker 3: Do half of what they they've been able to accomplish
Speaker 3: over the last seven years.
Speaker 4: You know, we I do it. I know I would
Speaker 4: do a cartwheel.
Speaker 2: But what what's the game plan of of Mahomes? He
Speaker 2: seems like he's running a lot more. He had been
Speaker 2: running a lot more than in previous years and had
Speaker 2: been their most dangerous runner. But as a defensive philosophy,
Speaker 2: what was it going into this game?
Speaker 4: There? They had adversity in the offensive line.
Speaker 3: Uh, different combinations, different different you know, really good players out.
Speaker 3: But uh, they guy stepped in and uh they were
Speaker 3: Chiefs are still operating at a at a very high level.
Speaker 3: And I was, I mean, I was for the competitor
Speaker 3: that Patrick is. I mean that was was just hoping
Speaker 3: praying that, uh that he would have dodged a bullet,
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, unfortunately he didn't.
Speaker 4: But uh, he's he's already you know, getting ready.
Speaker 3: For surgery and you just just know his mindset it's
Speaker 3: going to be it's gonna be surgery and then and
Speaker 3: then rehab.
Speaker 4: He's just he just he's he just he just wants
Speaker 4: to be.
Speaker 3: Doing and so that's uh really we're trying to replicate
Speaker 3: that here and in Los Angeles, and uh.
Speaker 2: What are you trying to force him out of the
Speaker 2: pocket because he loves to go right, but I you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's easier said than done that we don't want
Speaker 2: to let him go outside the pocket.
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, Yeah, oh, uh you get you try to
Speaker 3: contain him, you really do that. Uh, the the discipline
Speaker 3: in the in the rush lanes you got to have.
Speaker 3: It's got to be coordinated with with all five or
Speaker 3: four or six or seven rushers, uh, you know, every
Speaker 3: single play. And he's still and he still finds ways
Speaker 3: to uh you know, to make the impossible possible. But uh,
Speaker 3: it's Tuesday, it's uh, it's our feeder moving.
Speaker 4: We're up.
Speaker 3: We're gonna keep them moving because uh, we got Dallas
Speaker 3: this year this week and uh, I really think they're
Speaker 3: the They're the best offense we've played in a while. Uh,
Speaker 3: really good receivers, really good quarterback, very good up front,
Speaker 3: and running game that we're gonna try to figure out
Speaker 3: how to stop as well.
Speaker 2: Talk down, Jim Harbaugh, Chargers head coach. You coach any
Speaker 2: differently in December than you do in September.
Speaker 3: That's a great question. You know, they all count the same,
Speaker 3: you know they count the same, but uh, yeah, it's different.
Speaker 3: It's almost it's like the fourth quarter in a in
Speaker 3: a game, you know, and then you know, you get
Speaker 3: down to the to the end and it's you know,
Speaker 3: then it's and it's like like the two minute drill,
Speaker 3: you know, in the in the in the playoffs or
Speaker 3: you know, trying to get into the playoffs.
Speaker 4: But everybody, everybody's fighting for their lives.
Speaker 3: Everybody's fighting, you know, really for their their playoff destiny.
Speaker 3: And and that's and the and the and the teams
Speaker 3: that aren't don't have a chance to be in the playoffs,
Speaker 3: they're fighting at the at the highest level, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: for pride and for for for their team and for
Speaker 3: their for their their organizations.
Speaker 4: It's it's the competitive season. Tis the season for competition.
Speaker 2: How much does it help playing the position as a
Speaker 2: head coach, helping Justin Herbert play the position.
Speaker 3: I've been asked that a bunch of times, and I
Speaker 3: don't have a great answer for that, because he is
Speaker 3: just so much better at everything, uh, every every part
Speaker 3: of the game.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Is there anything you do better than or did better
Speaker 2: than Justin Herbert?
Speaker 3: There's nothing. There's nothing, nothing, And I don't want to
Speaker 3: demonstrate anything. I mean, it's just not gonna it's not
Speaker 3: gonna look right. Uh So I just uh, you know,
Speaker 3: really really focus on uh, you know, number one, protecting him.
Speaker 4: And but it's just.
Speaker 3: H yeah, a tremendous blessing to have him Derwin, James,
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, Khalil Mack. Uh the absolute best leaders I've
Speaker 3: ever been and playmakers leaders and playmakers uh that uh,
Speaker 3: that I've ever been associated with.
Speaker 2: You said you were still processing the Sharon More situation.
Speaker 2: What are you processing?
Speaker 5: What are what?
Speaker 2: What is going through your head or trying to understand?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's uh really still and still don't have
Speaker 3: my head wrapped around it.
Speaker 4: Dan Uh, it's.
Speaker 3: Yeah it Uh yeah, it's a tragedy and just praying
Speaker 3: for all concerned. I love my alma mater, love Michigan,
Speaker 3: and but I love the Chargers too. And uh, i'd
Speaker 3: been doing a disservice if I wasn't putting all my
Speaker 3: focus on the on this game.
Speaker 4: This is the most important game for us.
Speaker 2: When's the last time you talked to Sharon Moore? Uh?
Speaker 4: Have it early early December? Uh? But I I have texted.
Speaker 2: Him nothing, nothing since he was arrested, just text Oh
Speaker 2: you have Yeah. How are his spirits?
Speaker 4: Uh? I think I think there is. It's a tragedy.
Speaker 3: What Uh the worst days of his life and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, keep it together and and uh and take
Speaker 3: care of your family.
Speaker 4: That's you know, that's the message. And I and I
Speaker 4: and getting spiritual guidance. Uh, you know, he's really cool. Article.
Speaker 2: Are you helping Michigan at all find their head coach?
Speaker 4: No, I'm not. All focuses on the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Well, congrats on the win, and uh, good luck against
Speaker 2: Dallas and then you host Houston, then you're at Denver.
Speaker 2: Who's the best team you face? You talked about Dallas
Speaker 2: will be the best offense. Who's the best team?
Speaker 3: So we played definitely uh that we played in a while.
Speaker 3: You know, right, the team that you know stands out, uh,
Speaker 3: you know the ones that that.
Speaker 4: That got the best of us.
Speaker 3: But these last two games Chiefs Eagles, I mean football
Speaker 3: at uh, at at the highest level. You know, that's
Speaker 3: been and I think it's I think it's I think
Speaker 3: it's made us keener and sharper and finer too to
Speaker 3: go through those two games.
Speaker 4: And uh, and we expect the same challenge this week.
Speaker 2: Do you want to play in the snow?
Speaker 3: I prefer the snow then, Uh, then thirty five or
Speaker 3: thirty three in rain? So uh, as soon as as
Speaker 3: soon as the temperature goes below thirty, I know it's
Speaker 3: not going to rain, and uh, I prefer that.
Speaker 2: Uh. But you look at the doll like the Dolphins
Speaker 2: don't win games under forty degrees? Like what how does
Speaker 2: that im?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: There are guys that aren't from Miami, but you know
Speaker 2: they don't win in cold weather. Why is that?
Speaker 4: Uh? That's that's a that's something I can't. I can't.
Speaker 3: I am kind of an expert at uh growing up
Speaker 3: in uh the Midwest and.
Speaker 4: In Michigan, Ohio, chicag playing in Chicago.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's really a function of like my
Speaker 4: dad used to tell us when we were kids. He'd say,
Speaker 4: you you you, yeah, get out of the house, Dan,
Speaker 4: it's cold out there. Get your feet moving and keep
Speaker 4: it moving. You'd walk out and then the click of
Speaker 4: the door would click behind you.
Speaker 2: Uh wait they locked the door.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you hear the click. Okay, we're our feet moving
Speaker 4: and keep it moving. But that's that's that's the secret.
Speaker 4: That's the answer.
Speaker 3: The the you become your body becomes like a human
Speaker 3: hot tub because your your your heart is pumping warm,
Speaker 3: hot blood, especially when you're young, and you know that
Speaker 3: goes from the the heart to the arteries, to the capitillaries,
Speaker 3: to the to the tissue and it's you know, the
Speaker 3: more muscle you got, that's the more uh, that's the
Speaker 3: more uh.
Speaker 4: Insulation that you have.
Speaker 3: High school anatomy tells me it goes back back to
Speaker 3: the lungs and reactioninates and it just keeps keeps falling
Speaker 3: like so you just you just keep moving and then
Speaker 3: when you're not playing, you go to the go to
Speaker 3: the sideline, get by that that heater in that warm bench.
Speaker 2: Who had it better than you did in cool weather?
Speaker 4: I mean a lot of experience there, nobody.
Speaker 2: Dan, There you go, there you go.
Speaker 4: I know the answer to that one.
Speaker 2: I was worried. I was worried about you there. Thanks
Speaker 2: for joining us. Good luck against Dallas. Appreciate it, coach,
Speaker 2: Thank you Dan. That's Jim Harbaugh, second year's Charger's head
Speaker 2: coach and a Coach of the Year back in twenty
Speaker 2: eleven with the forty nine Ers. Yeah, you grew up
Speaker 2: in the Midwest, like that's just normal that you're playing.
Speaker 2: You know, even when you're growing up and you're playing
Speaker 2: in the backyard, you're playing in snow, or you'd have
Speaker 2: your turkey bowl, everybody's home for the holidays, and you'd
Speaker 2: be playing cold weather. And it's weird when you go
Speaker 2: to a cold weather state. You know, when I go
Speaker 2: to Maine, I always say to my kids, don't say
Speaker 2: it's cold. You know it's cold, so don't say it.
Speaker 2: And so now they're conditioned. I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 2: If you're coming up this time of the year, it's
Speaker 2: going to be cold, you might say it's not as
Speaker 2: cold as I thought. You can be surprised when it's
Speaker 2: not cold. But I don't want to hear it's so cold.
Speaker 2: Why did you come up? All right, it's cold in Connecticut, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it's really cold in main.
Speaker 5: Soft.
Speaker 2: I'm closed the door and lock the door and go
Speaker 2: out there. Get your feet, get those capillaries. Get he
Speaker 2: went through the whole body, didn't held the whole nervous
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Speaker 2: Comment away, We'll talk to Joe Thomas. Ten time pro bowler,
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer Jonas coming up here in a moment.
Speaker 2: A couple of phone calls in here Brian in Michigan. Hi, Brian,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 8: Dan six six foot worn two worn out two ten.
Speaker 4: Hey.
Speaker 8: I don't want to rehash everything going on in Michigan.
Speaker 8: We all know what's going on. I just wondered, how
Speaker 8: much damage do you think it would do to the
Speaker 8: program if they just waited to hire a head coach.
Speaker 8: Let Pogi run it and finish the investigation and get
Speaker 8: into president and go from there. What do you think
Speaker 8: about that?
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a crazy opinion, because there's a
Speaker 2: lot to navigate here, And maybe if you're just going
Speaker 2: to leave an interim coach in there and then next year,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe it'll be more attractive job post cleanup.
Speaker 2: Can you keep the players there? That would be the key,
Speaker 2: And then you're going to have a lot of other
Speaker 2: candidates because right now the coaching carousel isn't moving, and
Speaker 2: maybe you're gonna have to target somebody who's in the
Speaker 2: playoffs right now, depending on how far they go in
Speaker 2: the playoffs. So do you wait until the playoffs are
Speaker 2: over or do you maybe wait until next season. We'll
Speaker 2: get some more phone calls eight seven to seven to
Speaker 2: three DP show. He's Joe Thomas, Hall of Famer joining
Speaker 2: us on the program. Good to see you again. We've
Speaker 2: been talking about the playing surfaces and the fact that
Speaker 2: yesterday the NFL says, hey, we're going to conduct another
Speaker 2: study here on the playing surfaces. Why are we here
Speaker 2: where we can't have a universe playing field up you know,
Speaker 2: surface is either ast turf or regular turf. And why
Speaker 2: did it take maybe injuries to a couple of more
Speaker 2: key players before we all of a sudden have everybody's attention.
Speaker 9: Well, it just comes back to the fact that the
Speaker 9: owners didn't want to all agree to spend the money
Speaker 9: to invest in the fields because you got teams like
Speaker 9: the Cincinnati Bengals. They don't want to even pay to
Speaker 9: get the snow removed from the seats of the fans,
Speaker 9: so they're saving every dime they poss we can, Whereas
Speaker 9: you have some teams that are willing to spend the
Speaker 9: money on player safety. I think it was the Baltimore
Speaker 9: Ravens a few years ago. They realized that, hey, turf fields,
Speaker 9: they're not good for players' bodies, and the people that
Speaker 9: suffer the most are our own players because they play
Speaker 9: the most games in our home stadium. So let's make
Speaker 9: this the best surface we possibly can that's going to
Speaker 9: reduce the most injuries possible and keep that consistent and uniform.
Speaker 9: And so I think it's just a matter of those
Speaker 9: NFL owners haven't all been able to agree on what
Speaker 9: it takes to get that consistency, and the union really
Speaker 9: just doesn't have enough power to be able to force
Speaker 9: the hands of the owners.
Speaker 2: Worst playing surface you ever played on?
Speaker 9: Well, I hated playing in Cincinnati on their old turf
Speaker 9: because of how hard it was. I mean just standing
Speaker 9: on that, I could feel it in my back and
Speaker 9: my knees. But I would say playing in Soldier Field,
Speaker 9: like at the end of the year, or playing in
Speaker 9: the old Heinz Field when they used to I think
Speaker 9: they still maybe do play like the high school championships there.
Speaker 9: They played pitt on Saturdays and the thing is just
Speaker 9: a mud pit by the end of the season, and
Speaker 9: so there is no consistency at all with your footing.
Speaker 9: But I'm not a fast guy as it is, so hey,
Speaker 9: I was happy that everyone was a little bit slower
Speaker 9: and we were all a little bit more at the
Speaker 9: same speed when we played in those really greasy, nasty tracks.
Speaker 2: As a Hall of Fame lineman, how would you put
Speaker 2: into perspective what Miles Garrett is on the verge of
Speaker 2: doing setting the all time sack record.
Speaker 9: So until my I don't ever remember watching an NFL
Speaker 9: defensive lineman from my college days, all the way through
Speaker 9: the days that I was playing, and now as a
Speaker 9: fan where I said, I'm watching him, Eh, I don't
Speaker 9: think that I can block him more than my fair
Speaker 9: share when I'm at my best. And that's what I
Speaker 9: say about Miles when I watch him. I played against
Speaker 9: him when he was a rookie and I was in
Speaker 9: my last season and I barely had a chance to
Speaker 9: try to block him and get a glove on him then,
Speaker 9: and he's like thirty forty percent better than he was
Speaker 9: at that time, And so I watch him and I say,
Speaker 9: I don't know how I would have been able to
Speaker 9: block him when on one and I think that's the
Speaker 9: mentality that a lot of offenses, basically every offense that
Speaker 9: he's gone against this season has said, because nobody's blocking
Speaker 9: him one on one. Even the best tackles in the
Speaker 9: game right now are not allowed to go against him
Speaker 9: one on one because he is so dominant.
Speaker 4: There's nobody in.
Speaker 9: The game that can block him consistently throughout the course
Speaker 9: of an entire game.
Speaker 2: How surprised were you that he kind of took back
Speaker 2: the trade request when the Browns were to make him
Speaker 2: the highest paid defensive player.
Speaker 9: I was really surprised because I'd talked to him throughout
Speaker 9: that the course of the hold out, where he said
Speaker 9: he's not coming back and it doesn't matter. He's all
Speaker 9: about trying to win championships. And you know, I go
Speaker 9: on the radio a lot in Cleveland especially, and you know,
Speaker 9: I want to make sure that if I'm saying something,
Speaker 9: you know, it aligns with what he's thinking and what
Speaker 9: you know he is trying to get done, because I
Speaker 9: want to make sure that this is true what I'm
Speaker 9: saying about him. And you know, he was telling me
Speaker 9: that it doesn't matter what the money is. You know,
Speaker 9: he's frustrated, he's ready to leave and unless something drastically
Speaker 9: changes from the vision that they have, he was not
Speaker 9: really ready to come back. And of course they decided
Speaker 9: to make him the highest paid defensive player, which was
Speaker 9: surpassed by Michael Parsons later on.
Speaker 2: But the vision didn't change Joe. This is not a
Speaker 2: good team. He's not winning anything anytime soon, and maybe
Speaker 2: not in his career.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree. So I'm trying to tell you that
Speaker 9: they must have said something in their little witch's brew
Speaker 9: that they had going on before they gave him that drink.
Speaker 2: I think they just said, how does forty million dollars feel?
Speaker 2: We're not gonna win anything? Forty million dollars, all right?
Speaker 2: You know what, I don't need to win.
Speaker 9: I think it was partly that, but I do think
Speaker 9: that they had convinced them of some vision that was
Speaker 9: more convincing than the fans have gotten of. Hey, we're
Speaker 9: going to win a championship. You're going to be part
Speaker 9: of it. And I think a lot of it probably
Speaker 9: honestly had to do with Jim Schwartz on defense, as
Speaker 9: his defensive coordinator loves him and they do have a
Speaker 9: really good defense. Didn't play well last week against the Bears.
Speaker 9: But I think they kind of built up the fact
Speaker 9: that you could be part of this great historic defense.
Speaker 9: You could do amazing things like chase the sack record,
Speaker 9: and oh, by the way, we're going to invest in
Speaker 9: our offense. Maybe not year one, but we're going to
Speaker 9: get it right on offense with a quarterback, adding some
Speaker 9: weapons on the outside. And then in year two we're
Speaker 9: going to be competitive and have a chance with this
Speaker 9: great defense led by you. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 9: you can finish your career where you started, which is
Speaker 9: very rare in the NFL. And so I think all
Speaker 9: those things kind of put together made up maybe forty percent.
Speaker 9: And then yeah, like I said, sixty percent was hey,
Speaker 9: we'll pay a lot of money. Like, okay, that sounds
Speaker 9: good to Have.
Speaker 2: You seen enough of Shudor Sanders to offer a definitive opinion.
Speaker 5: Not yet.
Speaker 9: We need to see him the rest of the season.
Speaker 9: We saw a really great game a few weeks ago
Speaker 9: where he had over three hundred yards passing. He led
Speaker 9: their team on a long drive to finish the game
Speaker 9: to put them in position to make a two point
Speaker 9: version and tie the game going overtime. Of course, they
Speaker 9: called a weird play and shouldor wasn't on the field
Speaker 9: for that, but that's a different topic. But at least
Speaker 9: he did the things that you need to do to
Speaker 9: be a franchise quarterback in the NFL, which is you've
Speaker 9: got to get the points and the yards that you
Speaker 9: need when you need it, and that's usually in the
Speaker 9: two minute drill in the fourth quarter. And he was
Speaker 9: showing steady improvement, but then last week there was regression.
Speaker 9: And it's a little bit challenging because his offensive lines
Speaker 9: banged up as receivers are playing hot potato and throwing
Speaker 9: the football out of the defense, and so it's a
Speaker 9: little bit difficult to look at everything he's doing out
Speaker 9: there on Sundays without being in those meeting rooms and
Speaker 9: know what he's being asked to do and properly evaluate him.
Speaker 9: But with the amount of up and down that we've
Speaker 9: seen so far, you need to see him in these
Speaker 9: last three games to be able to declare him the
Speaker 9: franchise quarterback of the future.
Speaker 2: Could you come out of retirement like Philip.
Speaker 9: Rids, No way, I had my hip orplacement in the spring.
Speaker 9: I'm sore enough after sleeping. You got a new hip, Yeah,
Speaker 9: that's right. Hey, there we go and fixed to let's
Speaker 9: do the bo Jackson. I'm ready to fix the other one.
Speaker 9: Fix the knees in the back. Just turn me into
Speaker 9: a robot bionic man, give me an AI brain, and
Speaker 9: I'll be ready to go back out there. Sign me
Speaker 9: up today for maybe some future gains potentially.
Speaker 2: But could you imagine trying to protect Philip Rivers. Let's
Speaker 2: say you're playing at your all pro level and you
Speaker 2: got a forty four year old quarterback adding to even
Speaker 2: more pressure, and you're playing against Seattle. Are you Are
Speaker 2: you going to hold onto your defensive lineman a little
Speaker 2: bit longer than normal.
Speaker 9: There's definitely gonna be some decisions in their minds about, Okay,
Speaker 9: I got beat. Should I just let him go and
Speaker 9: not get a penalty, or should I save this man's
Speaker 9: life the same age as my dad, I just go
Speaker 9: and tackle him around the knees and not allow anybody
Speaker 9: to touch my quarterback. Because yeah, there's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 9: You know, there's a lot of pressure when you got
Speaker 9: a quarterback that can move a little bit and that's
Speaker 9: young and they can withstand some hits. But I'm not
Speaker 9: sure that Philip Rivers is there anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's out there. He's out there.
Speaker 5: I don't give it as best.
Speaker 9: I give him credit.
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, this point, Joe, that our best option
Speaker 2: is a forty four year old guy who hasn't played
Speaker 2: in five years and never had a strong arm and
Speaker 2: certainly doesn't have that.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 9: He did a pretty good job last weekend. I'm not
Speaker 9: sure how long he's gonna be able to do it.
Speaker 9: I mean, hey, he gave his team a chance to win.
Speaker 2: He did, but the defense, the defense gave them a
Speaker 2: chance to They played really good defense. Philip had a
Speaker 2: touchdown pen. Look, I know it's a great story, but
Speaker 2: I gotta call it as I see it. His arm
Speaker 2: is so weak, and I'm just amazed. Like some of
Speaker 2: those passes they're bad. Really, they just float.
Speaker 9: I mean they were floating when I was playing when
Speaker 9: I was thirty years old, so you can only imagine
Speaker 9: it's probably not going the other direction. So you give
Speaker 9: him credit. But it does say something about the development
Speaker 9: of that quarterback room in Indianapolis that they didn't trust
Speaker 9: any of those guys. They'd rather have Philip come off
Speaker 9: the couch at forty four with a noodle arm and say, hey, here,
Speaker 9: you go prop them up there. Hopefully you can give
Speaker 9: us at least a few passes off throwing an interception
Speaker 9: and we might win the game.
Speaker 2: How would you feel if you're against Miles Garrett and
Speaker 2: he needs one more sack to break the record, fourth
Speaker 2: quarter and you're blocking him.
Speaker 9: So I'm assuming that we're winning because we're playing against
Speaker 9: the Browns. Unfortunately, so we're winning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you know the game, but you're going against
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett. He needs one sack to break the record,
Speaker 2: and its fourth quarter.
Speaker 9: I wouldn't give it to him. But what I would
Speaker 9: say to my quarterback is, hey, hold onto the ball
Speaker 9: as long as you need to throw the ball into
Speaker 9: the end zone. If we get a touchdown, great, But
Speaker 9: if Miles sacks you, that's okay too. Because I always
Speaker 9: cheer for players, I don't always cheer now for teams,
Speaker 9: obviously the Browns, but I love Miles. I think he's
Speaker 9: doing it the right way on the field. He's given
Speaker 9: incredible effort, playing the game the right way. He's a
Speaker 9: great team player, he says the right things off the field,
Speaker 9: and so for him to be able to hold that
Speaker 9: sack record I think would be special and to be honest,
Speaker 9: I was a Packer fan, and when Brett Favre rolled
Speaker 9: out and laid down on the turf to give Michael
Speaker 9: Strahan that record, I felt like it was a little
Speaker 9: bit tarnished. And I would love to see Miles with
Speaker 9: that sack record where everybody says, without a doubt, this
Speaker 9: is the deserving sack champion of all time.
Speaker 2: In the end, you're joining us on behalf of the
Speaker 2: officially licensed UNU game of the NFL. What's going on
Speaker 2: with UNO in the NFL?
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 9: I'm not shoving Hall of Fame beefsticks in your in
Speaker 9: your mouth this time like it was last time when
Speaker 9: we were there in Green Bay. But it's really cool.
Speaker 9: I'm super excited that UNO, which is one of my
Speaker 9: favorite family games, has put together this UNO Elite Playoff
Speaker 9: tournament being held right now all over the country on
Speaker 9: hobby shops and anybody can sign up. It's free to enter,
Speaker 9: and if you register, you get a chance to win
Speaker 9: an amazing thing that UNO's given away three days, two nights,
Speaker 9: a trip to Las Vegas for their UNO Elite Championship.
Speaker 9: The winner is going to walk away with ten grand
Speaker 9: but most importantly, the most coveted trophy of all time
Speaker 9: if you're a child in America or if you're a
Speaker 9: parent of a kid, and that's the UNO Elite Trophy.
Speaker 9: You're walking around with that peacock and a lot better
Speaker 9: than if you had a Hall of Fame bus like
Speaker 9: I have behind me. That is really the taj mahal
Speaker 9: of trophy is if you're a dad or if you're
Speaker 9: a kid.
Speaker 2: Fans can sign up at UNO Elite Championship dot com.
Speaker 2: Great to talk to you again. Happy holidays to you, Joe.
Speaker 9: Happy holidays, Dan. Thanks for having me on the show again.
Speaker 9: Great to see you, see you.
Speaker 2: I don't think how many how many sacks did he
Speaker 2: give up? But was he called for like three holding
Speaker 2: penalties in his career? Like the numbers are pretty crazy? Yes,
Speaker 2: Like where you go? What? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yes, Marvin, he's prime a. They didn't lose because of me.
Speaker 2: Yes. If you're pointing fingers, is the reason why the
Speaker 2: Browns lost, you didn't point it at Joe Thomas? Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 10: There's a couple of different reports, ones from the Cleveland
Speaker 10: Browns team website. They said that Joe Thomas allowed thirty
Speaker 10: sacks in six seven hundred pass block snaps.
Speaker 2: How many times was he called for holding? See if
Speaker 2: you can find that. Yeah, Jennifer and Washington. Hi Jennifer,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11: Hi?
Speaker 12: Dan?
Speaker 13: Morning guys, Morning and a fluffy one to eighty over here.
Speaker 8: Thanks.
Speaker 13: I have a question for you, Dan, but real quick,
Speaker 13: I did want to a happy birthday to my best
Speaker 13: friend Nicholas. He turned me on your show. But so, Dan,
Speaker 13: I think you had predicted Chief Lions for the Super Bowl? Yes,
Speaker 13: who are your new picks?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick with the Chiefs and the lines, you know, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: go ahead, start to finish on that. I can't be
Speaker 2: a quitter. Now. I think the Rams are probably the
Speaker 2: best team that I've seen. When everybody's playing at a
Speaker 2: high level, it feels like the Rams. I keep waiting
Speaker 2: for the Eagles to play better. I just it feels
Speaker 2: like they're going to have one of those games. And
Speaker 2: the Rams almost knocked them off last year, So I
Speaker 2: would say the Rams and I man, I'm impressed with Denver.
Speaker 2: They're playing at home with that defense and bo Nicks,
Speaker 2: and he's played well, you know, because earlier in the
Speaker 2: year it felt like, uh oh, he's regressing, and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you see him now and then
Speaker 2: you see what he was building on in that first year.
Speaker 2: I would say Denver, but Buffalo has a weird feel
Speaker 2: to them. They just do. Yeah, Marvin, do you.
Speaker 5: Think the Broncos are playing with house money?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 6: You know what if we get to the AFC Championship
Speaker 6: Game and we lose, you know what, great season? No
Speaker 6: one expected us to get this far. You think they
Speaker 6: played almost like the uh No Commanders last year.
Speaker 2: I don't think you can say that to Sean Payton, like,
Speaker 2: you know, he's here to win another Super Bowl. Now,
Speaker 2: that puts him into a different category. Like a lot
Speaker 2: of times we look at a coach who wins the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. You know, when they win another Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: just like quarterbacks, it puts them in a different category. Yeah,
Speaker 2: mar oh, no, I'm with you.
Speaker 6: But I feel the same way about the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 6: I said that yesterday, and you guys are like, oh,
Speaker 6: if they lose to the Broncos, Buffalo, the fans don't
Speaker 6: want to hear that.
Speaker 2: Oh no, they're Buffalo's not playing with house money.
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, they're under pressure.
Speaker 6: But I'm saying the Broncos might be because we didn't
Speaker 6: expect him to get this far or be this good
Speaker 6: this fast.
Speaker 2: Well, they were a playoff team last year. I think
Speaker 2: New England is different because we might look at them
Speaker 2: and go, is this really their year? Because it all
Speaker 2: kind of fell into place, and Drake May's played really well.
Speaker 2: I think they've surprised me far more than Denver has.
Speaker 2: Denver's defense is incredible, it is, yeah, point.
Speaker 10: But if I'm the Patriots head coach or the Broncos
Speaker 10: head coach, I say, look at Joe Burrow and the
Speaker 10: Bengals four years ago.
Speaker 2: Oh they'll be back.
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, have lots of chances. Joe Burrow, he's going
Speaker 10: right back to him and Jamar Chase right back.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: I hate when people say that. I hate when they go, oh,
Speaker 2: Drake May, it's not his turn to win an MVP.
Speaker 2: You know he'll get his opportunity. You never know. And
Speaker 2: I hate because we've seen what happened so quickly, whether
Speaker 2: a team elevates or a team just falls apart. I mean,
Speaker 2: the Bengals aren't close to being a super Bowl caliber
Speaker 2: team even when everybody's healthy.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: David in Ohio, Hi, David, what's on your mind?
Speaker 11: Hey, Dan's thinking of all these at L injuries. I
Speaker 11: sources confirmed that Patrick Mahomes had a successful ATL surgery
Speaker 11: in Dallas, Texas. It's really great that something successful has
Speaker 11: come out of Dallas.
Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, all right, David, all right. I thought there
Speaker 2: was a big wind up there. It's always successful surgery always.
Speaker 2: I had shoulder surgery. I didn't think it was successful,
Speaker 2: you know, just saying sometimes it's not successful. This was
Speaker 2: years ago where I had a torn labram and uh,
Speaker 2: it's still not great. And you know, I just don't
Speaker 2: want the doctor to say, yes, it was successful surgery. Yes, Pauline,
Speaker 2: could you go.
Speaker 10: Back and say, hey, it it didn't work.
Speaker 2: I'd like, no, I don't want to go back. No no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: No more surgeries. No more surgery. You're you're quitting. I
Speaker 2: am quitting. I told my wife, I don't care what happens.
Speaker 2: No more surgery. You're living. I can't arm falls off,
Speaker 2: it stays off. I can't do it anymore. I'm a
Speaker 2: game of operation. Yes, TOD and these teams legally say.
Speaker 12: It's successful surgery, because that's just a phrase that everybody uses.
Speaker 5: Like, what do they say about t J?
Speaker 12: Watt situation, which may have been caused by one of
Speaker 12: the Yeah, we took care of his lung.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was a procedure. He was going for
Speaker 2: treatment and then had the collapse lung, so he didn't
Speaker 2: go in for a collapse long. He had to be
Speaker 2: treated for a collapse long. And I'm still not sure
Speaker 2: what happened in the situation like that.
Speaker 10: That's been quiet.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what happened.
Speaker 2: Unless you're getting an injection and then that brought about
Speaker 2: a collapse.
Speaker 4: Long.
Speaker 2: Isn't that what happened to Tyron Taylor?
Speaker 10: Yeah, paint injection before the game.
Speaker 5: There was the patient's fault.
Speaker 2: He had a bad reaction.
Speaker 5: We did, we did. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2: He moved, it was his fault, yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 10: A bunch of years ago, I had a thing called
Speaker 10: pleurisy and they had to drain my lung with this
Speaker 10: big syringe type thing and they said don't move, like
Speaker 10: don't They held you almost like an a vice to
Speaker 10: put it on.
Speaker 2: Why did they think you were going to move to
Speaker 2: begin with?
Speaker 10: Well, they yeah, I don't move a lot generally in life.
Speaker 10: But like I was in this little chair and they're
Speaker 10: doing it and they're draining it and they're like, do
Speaker 10: not shake, and I'm like, well, I'll try, but if
Speaker 10: it's painful, there's you know, yeah, but you ry not.
Speaker 2: You're not moving. I don't think anybody sits down and
Speaker 2: go hey, we're going to inject you don't move okay,
Speaker 2: Like you left your car running.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, you know what, let me get
Speaker 2: up for a moment. Oh, I got this cramp in
Speaker 2: my leg. Let me get up. Yes, tun.
Speaker 12: I also like when you go to get your blood drawn,
Speaker 12: and if they screw it up the first so sometimes
Speaker 12: multiple times they blame your veins, most of them screwing
Speaker 12: it up, and they have to do it a second
Speaker 12: or third time, they got to stick you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough because I'm not good with needles to
Speaker 2: begin with. By the way, I think Nick Wright's wife
Speaker 2: accused me of having maybe botox. When we went to dinner.
Speaker 2: She showed up yeah yeah, to your face, Yeah, to
Speaker 2: your yeah face, to my yeah what used to be
Speaker 2: my face, my new face. But I think that she
Speaker 2: wanted to know if I had had botox, and I
Speaker 2: said no, but I'm going to deny it publicly. I
Speaker 2: haven't had any cosmetic surgery. This is the second person
Speaker 2: who's asked me, you know, don't I.
Speaker 12: Just gonna have to admit it if they keep asking
Speaker 12: you about.
Speaker 2: I would have admitted it to her. She was like,
Speaker 2: you haven't had anything done up here, but you know
Speaker 2: my forehead or I said no, no, yes, Martin.
Speaker 5: Take that as a huge compliment. Yeah for sure twice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, yeah, I mean, I'm not saying I
Speaker 2: shouldn't have cosmetic surgery. I what todd years ago I was.
Speaker 12: When I was at the gym, back in the good
Speaker 12: old days. I was accused by a few people, like,
Speaker 12: you know, you're taking steroids now. They're like, oh, didn't
Speaker 12: you used to work out a long time ago?
Speaker 2: What happened Now's when you take this.
Speaker 5: Dramatically, it's I used to work out.
Speaker 2: I would say, your arms are huge, they are huge,
Speaker 2: But what.
Speaker 5: Does that catch of your waist is, Well, that's up
Speaker 5: to you.
Speaker 2: That's that's up to you.
Speaker 10: I'm sure he's gonna change his habits now.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: It's a lot easy to stand in front of the
Speaker 5: mirror of lifting the weights up.
Speaker 2: But your arms, you got huge arms, huge, you got
Speaker 2: offensive lineman arms.
Speaker 12: I'm gonna push over, though I have know like core
Speaker 12: or center of gravity.
Speaker 5: You could just blow me over with a feather.
Speaker 2: But your mid section is like big dom of the Eagles.
Speaker 5: I think that's a fair noalogy. I had to come
Speaker 5: back to the.
Speaker 2: Uh okay, let's take a break here back after this
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 2: Live seeking would you update me on the poll results
Speaker 2: so far during today's program?
Speaker 14: Heck, yeah, all right, I would love to do that
Speaker 14: right now.
Speaker 5: We got up there.
Speaker 14: The steel This one's from Paul Steelers are threatening they'll
Speaker 14: have an early playoff exit or they're not making the playoffs.
Speaker 14: Right now, seventy nine percent of the audience have them
Speaker 14: as an early playoff exit.
Speaker 2: Okay, I got a.
Speaker 14: Middle of the road on that one.
Speaker 2: Here's Aaron Rodgers after last night's win.
Speaker 15: There's some cast offs. If you look at our roster,
Speaker 15: which it makes it really special. You know, Kenny Gamewell
Speaker 15: signed a next to nothing contract. You know Connor Hayward
Speaker 15: after thought had a touchdown run. You know Mark Quz
Speaker 15: been on a couple of teams. Adam Thielen got cut.
Speaker 15: Samuel was on the street for a long time. So
Speaker 15: it says a lot about the character of the guys
Speaker 15: we brought in.
Speaker 2: It is patchwork now. Fritzie said, do you think Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers is saying that as if to say, hey, look
Speaker 2: at what I'm doing with all these cast offs here?
Speaker 2: And I thought, no, I don't think so.
Speaker 12: It's a little bit of like, look, we're about to win.
Speaker 2: The division Aaron against.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 5: That's a little of that.
Speaker 14: Yes, I thought it was more like like, he too
Speaker 14: is a cast off. They're all sort of on this
Speaker 14: island of misfit toys, you know, and they sort of
Speaker 14: all pieced together. I felt like he was including himself
Speaker 14: in that.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, But he didn't say I'm a cast
Speaker 2: off too.
Speaker 14: No, he did it, Yeah, they did it, But he
Speaker 14: just said if you look at this roster, it's a
Speaker 14: lot of castouts.
Speaker 2: If he had included himself in there.
Speaker 14: I took that as the subtext, Oh, like me and
Speaker 14: these guys, given Aaron the benefit of the down.
Speaker 2: He's a little bit of a cast off himself. He
Speaker 2: is a subtext. Yes, he's a walking, breathing subtext.
Speaker 10: Yes, Paul of Aaron Rodgers throwing numbers are up this
Speaker 10: year sixty three percent to sixty seven this year. His
Speaker 10: touchdowns are up, his interceptions will be a little lower
Speaker 10: than last year. His quarterback rating right now is ninety nine,
Speaker 10: last year is ninety.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean these are all serviceable numbers here. I just
Speaker 2: don't think it's a great team, Yes, Todd.
Speaker 1: Only someone with.
Speaker 12: My ability to experience could take this group of downtrodden
Speaker 12: folks that no one else wants to get them to
Speaker 12: possibly a division time.
Speaker 2: Let me thank you Dodd Martin in Atlanta, Hi Martin.
Speaker 5: Again.
Speaker 16: I just want to say thanks again and happy all
Speaker 16: day to the fellas. I heard a great comment from
Speaker 16: Brady Quit the other day about the field turf issue,
Speaker 16: and he was saying that both turfs and grass could
Speaker 16: be quality fields, but it's when you play on the
Speaker 16: other one and make the change it causes the problems
Speaker 16: because you have different traction and he gave different grips
Speaker 16: and you play it differently, and that's where a lot
Speaker 16: of these injuries come from. Not the turf itself, it's
Speaker 16: the playing between two different types of turfs.
Speaker 2: Well, but you have the non contact injury. That's the
Speaker 2: tricky part with this. Now that could be the surface
Speaker 2: if you slide, it could be the shoes that you wear.
Speaker 2: But the NFL is getting around to commissioning a study
Speaker 2: for this, and once again, as Joe Thomas said, the
Speaker 2: owners it comes down to they just don't want to
Speaker 2: spend the money.
Speaker 5: But I would.
Speaker 2: I think if I'm going to have an all purpose turf,
Speaker 2: if I'm going to have concerts in there, I want
Speaker 2: to get something that is going to be durable, that
Speaker 2: will hold up. But you would think somebody would be
Speaker 2: able to come up with a surface that would be
Speaker 2: a fishing for everybody. Cost of fission for everybody. I mean,
Speaker 2: the last thing you want is, oh, you know what,
Speaker 2: I didn't spend that extra money. I just lost my
Speaker 2: forty seven million dollar quarterback.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Pauling, I'm looking at the description of field turf
Speaker 10: which most places use, and they use crumbled up rubber
Speaker 10: which gives a little more get like slide so your
Speaker 10: feet don't catch as often. That's the goal of field
Speaker 10: turf and the rubber to let the foot slide a
Speaker 10: little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you can see it come up if you've
Speaker 2: ever been on the turf, you can actually see it
Speaker 2: when people run or cut. You can see little pieces
Speaker 2: of rubber come up. Final hour, Mike Golick Senior will
Speaker 2: join us. Arch Manning is coming back, no surprise. More
Speaker 2: phone calls coming up eight seven to seven three DP
Speaker 2: show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com. Two hours in the
Speaker 2: books on this Tuesday. One more to go with Fritzie, Satan,
Speaker 2: mar Paully, Yours truly in the BRGS.