1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,199 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Hour. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 2: Two on this Tuesday. Pittsburgh Steelers alive and well as 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: they beat the Dolphins last night to improve to eight 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: and six phone calls eight seven to seven three DP 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: show email address Dpadanpatrick dot Com, Twitter handle a DP show. 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 2: We'll talk to the Chargers head coach Jim Harball in 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: a moment. Also, Mike Golick Senior will stop by, as 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: well as the Browns Hall of Famer Joe Thomas. Eight 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: seven to seven three DP Show Operator Tyler is sitting by. 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: He'll take your phone calls. Good morning if you're watching 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: on Peacock or the NBC Sports networker listening on our 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: radio affiliates over four hundred cities carrying this program. We 14 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: were talking at the end of last hour about the 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: rash of ACL injuries this year, led by Micah Parsons 16 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: and Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes got hurt that was contact in 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: the Chargers game, Micah Parson's non contact injury. And yesterday 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: the NFL said that they announced they're going to have 19 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: a study to look at turf and these are new rules, 20 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: or at least a new policy, a new approach to 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: this and people, I think we're surprised at the number 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 2: of torn acls so far this year. Thirty so far. Now, 23 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: that seems like a lot. And the reason why it 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: seems like a lot is because there's some big names 25 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: in here. In twenty twenty four there were thirty eight 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: torn acls, twenty twenty three, forty three, twenty twenty two 27 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: point fifty one, twenty twenty one, fifty seven, twenty twenty 28 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: forty two. You can go back to twenty thirteen there 29 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: were sixty three torn acls. So it seems like we're 30 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: trending down. But why can't we come up with universal 31 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: fields that can prevent at least the non contact injury. 32 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: So we bring in the head coach of the Chargers, 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh. Those numbers alarming to you, surprising to you. 34 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: Anything we can do to improve those number of acls, Yeah, I. 35 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: Mean that discussions big going not for a long time 36 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: with the UH, with the turf and they and they 37 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: they're very scientific about it. Uh, you know my understanding 38 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: almost like you know stint meters in UH in golf. 39 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: But those numbers, to me, I mean it's it. Uh, 40 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: it's like one a year. You know, that's that's kind 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: of my my recollection from uh, you know, from coaching 42 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 3: all these years and and UH and playing as well 43 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 3: as about UH, one guy and the team will get. 44 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 4: An a c L. And it was a day where 45 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 4: that uh, that a c L would be career ending. 46 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: You know, think back then, Yeah, you know Gail Sayers 47 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: and uh and now uh you know it's uh advancements 48 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 3: in UH in safety and medical UH you know, UH 49 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: are are really incredible and getting getting better all the time. 50 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: But when you were at Michigan, all of your linemen 51 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: had to wear braces, knee braces, Yes, that was that 52 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: was And how preventative is that? I know Jake Buds 53 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: got hurt and Blake Korum you know got hurt as well. 54 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: Those are contact But did it is it that helpful 55 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: in preventing a c LS? 56 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: I thought so, I really did, Dan Uh, the the 57 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 3: running backs tight ends didn't didn't wear them. But we 58 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: had the defensive linemen wearing uh knee braces in practice. 59 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 4: UH and that. 60 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: Would uh it doesn't prevent prevent like a but whatever 61 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: injury it would have been, it makes it a lot 62 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: less in in my experience, and UH and Uh, trainers 63 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 3: in the medical experts. 64 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: What was different about the Chiefs this year as opposed 65 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: to previous years. 66 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: Oh, there's there's it's just the most the most historic, incredible. 67 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: Uh you know job that that team has done year 68 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: in year out, Andy Reid, Uh. 69 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 4: You know the best, he's the best. Uh. Patrick Homes 70 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 4: incredible competitor. 71 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: And uh that was I was talking to one of 72 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: our our assistant coaches yesterday. 73 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 4: And if we could just do half, we could just. 74 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: Do half of what they they've been able to accomplish 75 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: over the last seven years. 76 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 4: You know, we I do it. I know I would 77 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 4: do a cartwheel. 78 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: But what what's the game plan of of Mahomes? He 79 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: seems like he's running a lot more. He had been 80 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: running a lot more than in previous years and had 81 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: been their most dangerous runner. But as a defensive philosophy, 82 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 2: what was it going into this game? 83 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 4: There? They had adversity in the offensive line. 84 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 3: Uh, different combinations, different different you know, really good players out. 85 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: But uh, they guy stepped in and uh they were 86 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: Chiefs are still operating at a at a very high level. 87 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 3: And I was, I mean, I was for the competitor 88 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: that Patrick is. I mean that was was just hoping 89 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 3: praying that, uh that he would have dodged a bullet, 90 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, unfortunately he didn't. 91 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 4: But uh, he's he's already you know, getting ready. 92 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 3: For surgery and you just just know his mindset it's 93 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: going to be it's gonna be surgery and then and 94 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 3: then rehab. 95 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 4: He's just he just he's he just he just wants 96 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 4: to be. 97 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: Doing and so that's uh really we're trying to replicate 98 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: that here and in Los Angeles, and uh. 99 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: What are you trying to force him out of the 100 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 2: pocket because he loves to go right, but I you know, 101 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: it's it's easier said than done that we don't want 102 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 2: to let him go outside the pocket. 103 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, Yeah, oh, uh you get you try to 104 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 3: contain him, you really do that. Uh, the the discipline 105 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: in the in the rush lanes you got to have. 106 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: It's got to be coordinated with with all five or 107 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: four or six or seven rushers, uh, you know, every 108 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 3: single play. And he's still and he still finds ways 109 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: to uh you know, to make the impossible possible. But uh, 110 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: it's Tuesday, it's uh, it's our feeder moving. 111 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 4: We're up. 112 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: We're gonna keep them moving because uh, we got Dallas 113 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: this year this week and uh, I really think they're 114 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 3: the They're the best offense we've played in a while. Uh, 115 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: really good receivers, really good quarterback, very good up front, 116 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 3: and running game that we're gonna try to figure out 117 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 3: how to stop as well. 118 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: Talk down, Jim Harbaugh, Chargers head coach. You coach any 119 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: differently in December than you do in September. 120 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: That's a great question. You know, they all count the same, 121 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 3: you know they count the same, but uh, yeah, it's different. 122 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 3: It's almost it's like the fourth quarter in a in 123 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 3: a game, you know, and then you know, you get 124 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: down to the to the end and it's you know, 125 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 3: then it's and it's like like the two minute drill, 126 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 3: you know, in the in the in the playoffs or 127 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 3: you know, trying to get into the playoffs. 128 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 4: But everybody, everybody's fighting for their lives. 129 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 3: Everybody's fighting, you know, really for their their playoff destiny. 130 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: And and that's and the and the and the teams 131 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: that aren't don't have a chance to be in the playoffs, 132 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: they're fighting at the at the highest level, uh, you know, 133 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: for pride and for for for their team and for 134 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: their for their their organizations. 135 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 4: It's it's the competitive season. Tis the season for competition. 136 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: How much does it help playing the position as a 137 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: head coach, helping Justin Herbert play the position. 138 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: I've been asked that a bunch of times, and I 139 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: don't have a great answer for that, because he is 140 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: just so much better at everything, uh, every every part 141 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: of the game. 142 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 4: Uh. 143 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: Is there anything you do better than or did better 144 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: than Justin Herbert? 145 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: There's nothing. There's nothing, nothing, And I don't want to 146 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: demonstrate anything. I mean, it's just not gonna it's not 147 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: gonna look right. Uh So I just uh, you know, 148 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: really really focus on uh, you know, number one, protecting him. 149 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 4: And but it's just. 150 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: H yeah, a tremendous blessing to have him Derwin, James, 151 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, Khalil Mack. Uh the absolute best leaders I've 152 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: ever been and playmakers leaders and playmakers uh that uh, 153 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 3: that I've ever been associated with. 154 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: You said you were still processing the Sharon More situation. 155 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: What are you processing? 156 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 5: What are what? 157 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 2: What is going through your head or trying to understand? 158 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's uh really still and still don't have 159 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: my head wrapped around it. 160 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 4: Dan Uh, it's. 161 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: Yeah it Uh yeah, it's a tragedy and just praying 162 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 3: for all concerned. I love my alma mater, love Michigan, 163 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: and but I love the Chargers too. And uh, i'd 164 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: been doing a disservice if I wasn't putting all my 165 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 3: focus on the on this game. 166 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 4: This is the most important game for us. 167 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 2: When's the last time you talked to Sharon Moore? Uh? 168 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 4: Have it early early December? Uh? But I I have texted. 169 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: Him nothing, nothing since he was arrested, just text Oh 170 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: you have Yeah. How are his spirits? 171 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 4: Uh? I think I think there is. It's a tragedy. 172 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 3: What Uh the worst days of his life and uh, 173 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 3: you know, keep it together and and uh and take 174 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 3: care of your family. 175 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 4: That's you know, that's the message. And I and I 176 00:09:55,440 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 4: and getting spiritual guidance. Uh, you know, he's really cool. Article. 177 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: Are you helping Michigan at all find their head coach? 178 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 4: No, I'm not. All focuses on the Dallas Cowboys. 179 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: Well, congrats on the win, and uh, good luck against 180 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: Dallas and then you host Houston, then you're at Denver. 181 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: Who's the best team you face? You talked about Dallas 182 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: will be the best offense. Who's the best team? 183 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 3: So we played definitely uh that we played in a while. 184 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 3: You know, right, the team that you know stands out, uh, 185 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 3: you know the ones that that. 186 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 4: That got the best of us. 187 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 3: But these last two games Chiefs Eagles, I mean football 188 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: at uh, at at the highest level. You know, that's 189 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 3: been and I think it's I think it's I think 190 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 3: it's made us keener and sharper and finer too to 191 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: go through those two games. 192 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 4: And uh, and we expect the same challenge this week. 193 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: Do you want to play in the snow? 194 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 3: I prefer the snow then, Uh, then thirty five or 195 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 3: thirty three in rain? So uh, as soon as as 196 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: soon as the temperature goes below thirty, I know it's 197 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: not going to rain, and uh, I prefer that. 198 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: Uh. But you look at the doll like the Dolphins 199 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: don't win games under forty degrees? Like what how does 200 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: that im? 201 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 4: Like? 202 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: There are guys that aren't from Miami, but you know 203 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 2: they don't win in cold weather. Why is that? 204 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 4: Uh? That's that's a that's something I can't. I can't. 205 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: I am kind of an expert at uh growing up 206 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: in uh the Midwest and. 207 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 4: In Michigan, Ohio, chicag playing in Chicago. 208 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 6: Uh. 209 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 4: You know, it's it's really a function of like my 210 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 4: dad used to tell us when we were kids. He'd say, 211 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 4: you you you, yeah, get out of the house, Dan, 212 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 4: it's cold out there. Get your feet moving and keep 213 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 4: it moving. You'd walk out and then the click of 214 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 4: the door would click behind you. 215 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: Uh wait they locked the door. 216 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, you hear the click. Okay, we're our feet moving 217 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 4: and keep it moving. But that's that's that's the secret. 218 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 4: That's the answer. 219 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: The the you become your body becomes like a human 220 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 3: hot tub because your your your heart is pumping warm, 221 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: hot blood, especially when you're young, and you know that 222 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: goes from the the heart to the arteries, to the capitillaries, 223 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 3: to the to the tissue and it's you know, the 224 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 3: more muscle you got, that's the more uh, that's the 225 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 3: more uh. 226 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 4: Insulation that you have. 227 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: High school anatomy tells me it goes back back to 228 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 3: the lungs and reactioninates and it just keeps keeps falling 229 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: like so you just you just keep moving and then 230 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: when you're not playing, you go to the go to 231 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: the sideline, get by that that heater in that warm bench. 232 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 2: Who had it better than you did in cool weather? 233 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 4: I mean a lot of experience there, nobody. 234 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: Dan, There you go, there you go. 235 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 4: I know the answer to that one. 236 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: I was worried. I was worried about you there. Thanks 237 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: for joining us. Good luck against Dallas. Appreciate it, coach, 238 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 2: Thank you Dan. That's Jim Harbaugh, second year's Charger's head 239 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: coach and a Coach of the Year back in twenty 240 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: eleven with the forty nine Ers. Yeah, you grew up 241 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 2: in the Midwest, like that's just normal that you're playing. 242 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: You know, even when you're growing up and you're playing 243 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: in the backyard, you're playing in snow, or you'd have 244 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: your turkey bowl, everybody's home for the holidays, and you'd 245 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: be playing cold weather. And it's weird when you go 246 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: to a cold weather state. You know, when I go 247 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 2: to Maine, I always say to my kids, don't say 248 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: it's cold. You know it's cold, so don't say it. 249 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: And so now they're conditioned. I don't want to hear it. 250 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: If you're coming up this time of the year, it's 251 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: going to be cold, you might say it's not as 252 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: cold as I thought. You can be surprised when it's 253 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: not cold. But I don't want to hear it's so cold. 254 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: Why did you come up? All right, it's cold in Connecticut, Yeah, 255 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 2: but it's really cold in main. 256 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 5: Soft. 257 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 2: I'm closed the door and lock the door and go 258 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: out there. Get your feet, get those capillaries. Get he 259 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: went through the whole body, didn't held the whole nervous 260 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: system there. All right, we'll take a break. Joe Thomas 261 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: will join us on loan from the Hall of Fame. 262 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: We'll get to your phone calls as well, have a 263 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: pull question for hour or two as well. 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Hi, Brian, 280 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: what's on your mind today? 281 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 4: Hey? 282 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 8: Dan six six foot worn two worn out two ten. 283 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 4: Hey. 284 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 8: I don't want to rehash everything going on in Michigan. 285 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 8: We all know what's going on. I just wondered, how 286 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 8: much damage do you think it would do to the 287 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 8: program if they just waited to hire a head coach. 288 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 8: Let Pogi run it and finish the investigation and get 289 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 8: into president and go from there. What do you think 290 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 8: about that? 291 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: I don't think it's a crazy opinion, because there's a 292 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: lot to navigate here, And maybe if you're just going 293 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: to leave an interim coach in there and then next year, 294 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: you know, maybe it'll be more attractive job post cleanup. 295 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: Can you keep the players there? That would be the key, 296 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: And then you're going to have a lot of other 297 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: candidates because right now the coaching carousel isn't moving, and 298 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 2: maybe you're gonna have to target somebody who's in the 299 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: playoffs right now, depending on how far they go in 300 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: the playoffs. So do you wait until the playoffs are 301 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: over or do you maybe wait until next season. We'll 302 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: get some more phone calls eight seven to seven to 303 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: three DP show. He's Joe Thomas, Hall of Famer joining 304 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: us on the program. Good to see you again. We've 305 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: been talking about the playing surfaces and the fact that 306 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: yesterday the NFL says, hey, we're going to conduct another 307 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: study here on the playing surfaces. Why are we here 308 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: where we can't have a universe playing field up you know, 309 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 2: surface is either ast turf or regular turf. And why 310 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: did it take maybe injuries to a couple of more 311 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 2: key players before we all of a sudden have everybody's attention. 312 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 9: Well, it just comes back to the fact that the 313 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 9: owners didn't want to all agree to spend the money 314 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 9: to invest in the fields because you got teams like 315 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 9: the Cincinnati Bengals. They don't want to even pay to 316 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 9: get the snow removed from the seats of the fans, 317 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 9: so they're saving every dime they poss we can, Whereas 318 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 9: you have some teams that are willing to spend the 319 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 9: money on player safety. I think it was the Baltimore 320 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 9: Ravens a few years ago. They realized that, hey, turf fields, 321 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 9: they're not good for players' bodies, and the people that 322 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 9: suffer the most are our own players because they play 323 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 9: the most games in our home stadium. So let's make 324 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 9: this the best surface we possibly can that's going to 325 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 9: reduce the most injuries possible and keep that consistent and uniform. 326 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 9: And so I think it's just a matter of those 327 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 9: NFL owners haven't all been able to agree on what 328 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 9: it takes to get that consistency, and the union really 329 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 9: just doesn't have enough power to be able to force 330 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 9: the hands of the owners. 331 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: Worst playing surface you ever played on? 332 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 9: Well, I hated playing in Cincinnati on their old turf 333 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 9: because of how hard it was. I mean just standing 334 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 9: on that, I could feel it in my back and 335 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 9: my knees. But I would say playing in Soldier Field, 336 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 9: like at the end of the year, or playing in 337 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 9: the old Heinz Field when they used to I think 338 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 9: they still maybe do play like the high school championships there. 339 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 9: They played pitt on Saturdays and the thing is just 340 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 9: a mud pit by the end of the season, and 341 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 9: so there is no consistency at all with your footing. 342 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 9: But I'm not a fast guy as it is, so hey, 343 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 9: I was happy that everyone was a little bit slower 344 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 9: and we were all a little bit more at the 345 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 9: same speed when we played in those really greasy, nasty tracks. 346 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: As a Hall of Fame lineman, how would you put 347 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: into perspective what Miles Garrett is on the verge of 348 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: doing setting the all time sack record. 349 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 9: So until my I don't ever remember watching an NFL 350 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 9: defensive lineman from my college days, all the way through 351 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 9: the days that I was playing, and now as a 352 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 9: fan where I said, I'm watching him, Eh, I don't 353 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 9: think that I can block him more than my fair 354 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 9: share when I'm at my best. And that's what I 355 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 9: say about Miles when I watch him. I played against 356 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 9: him when he was a rookie and I was in 357 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 9: my last season and I barely had a chance to 358 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 9: try to block him and get a glove on him then, 359 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 9: and he's like thirty forty percent better than he was 360 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 9: at that time, And so I watch him and I say, 361 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 9: I don't know how I would have been able to 362 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 9: block him when on one and I think that's the 363 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 9: mentality that a lot of offenses, basically every offense that 364 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 9: he's gone against this season has said, because nobody's blocking 365 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 9: him one on one. Even the best tackles in the 366 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 9: game right now are not allowed to go against him 367 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 9: one on one because he is so dominant. 368 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 4: There's nobody in. 369 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 9: The game that can block him consistently throughout the course 370 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 9: of an entire game. 371 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 2: How surprised were you that he kind of took back 372 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: the trade request when the Browns were to make him 373 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 2: the highest paid defensive player. 374 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 9: I was really surprised because I'd talked to him throughout 375 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 9: that the course of the hold out, where he said 376 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 9: he's not coming back and it doesn't matter. He's all 377 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 9: about trying to win championships. And you know, I go 378 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 9: on the radio a lot in Cleveland especially, and you know, 379 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 9: I want to make sure that if I'm saying something, 380 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 9: you know, it aligns with what he's thinking and what 381 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 9: you know he is trying to get done, because I 382 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 9: want to make sure that this is true what I'm 383 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 9: saying about him. And you know, he was telling me 384 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 9: that it doesn't matter what the money is. You know, 385 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 9: he's frustrated, he's ready to leave and unless something drastically 386 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 9: changes from the vision that they have, he was not 387 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 9: really ready to come back. And of course they decided 388 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 9: to make him the highest paid defensive player, which was 389 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 9: surpassed by Michael Parsons later on. 390 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: But the vision didn't change Joe. This is not a 391 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: good team. He's not winning anything anytime soon, and maybe 392 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: not in his career. 393 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree. So I'm trying to tell you that 394 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 9: they must have said something in their little witch's brew 395 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 9: that they had going on before they gave him that drink. 396 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: I think they just said, how does forty million dollars feel? 397 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: We're not gonna win anything? Forty million dollars, all right? 398 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: You know what, I don't need to win. 399 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 9: I think it was partly that, but I do think 400 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 9: that they had convinced them of some vision that was 401 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 9: more convincing than the fans have gotten of. Hey, we're 402 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 9: going to win a championship. You're going to be part 403 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 9: of it. And I think a lot of it probably 404 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 9: honestly had to do with Jim Schwartz on defense, as 405 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 9: his defensive coordinator loves him and they do have a 406 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 9: really good defense. Didn't play well last week against the Bears. 407 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 9: But I think they kind of built up the fact 408 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 9: that you could be part of this great historic defense. 409 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 9: You could do amazing things like chase the sack record, 410 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 9: and oh, by the way, we're going to invest in 411 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 9: our offense. Maybe not year one, but we're going to 412 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 9: get it right on offense with a quarterback, adding some 413 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 9: weapons on the outside. And then in year two we're 414 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 9: going to be competitive and have a chance with this 415 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 9: great defense led by you. And oh, by the way, 416 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 9: you can finish your career where you started, which is 417 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 9: very rare in the NFL. And so I think all 418 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 9: those things kind of put together made up maybe forty percent. 419 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 9: And then yeah, like I said, sixty percent was hey, 420 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 9: we'll pay a lot of money. Like, okay, that sounds 421 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 9: good to Have. 422 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 2: You seen enough of Shudor Sanders to offer a definitive opinion. 423 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 5: Not yet. 424 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 9: We need to see him the rest of the season. 425 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 9: We saw a really great game a few weeks ago 426 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 9: where he had over three hundred yards passing. He led 427 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 9: their team on a long drive to finish the game 428 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 9: to put them in position to make a two point 429 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 9: version and tie the game going overtime. Of course, they 430 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 9: called a weird play and shouldor wasn't on the field 431 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 9: for that, but that's a different topic. But at least 432 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 9: he did the things that you need to do to 433 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 9: be a franchise quarterback in the NFL, which is you've 434 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 9: got to get the points and the yards that you 435 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 9: need when you need it, and that's usually in the 436 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 9: two minute drill in the fourth quarter. And he was 437 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 9: showing steady improvement, but then last week there was regression. 438 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 9: And it's a little bit challenging because his offensive lines 439 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 9: banged up as receivers are playing hot potato and throwing 440 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 9: the football out of the defense, and so it's a 441 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 9: little bit difficult to look at everything he's doing out 442 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 9: there on Sundays without being in those meeting rooms and 443 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 9: know what he's being asked to do and properly evaluate him. 444 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 9: But with the amount of up and down that we've 445 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 9: seen so far, you need to see him in these 446 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 9: last three games to be able to declare him the 447 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 9: franchise quarterback of the future. 448 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: Could you come out of retirement like Philip. 449 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 9: Rids, No way, I had my hip orplacement in the spring. 450 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 9: I'm sore enough after sleeping. You got a new hip, Yeah, 451 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 9: that's right. Hey, there we go and fixed to let's 452 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 9: do the bo Jackson. I'm ready to fix the other one. 453 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 9: Fix the knees in the back. Just turn me into 454 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 9: a robot bionic man, give me an AI brain, and 455 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 9: I'll be ready to go back out there. Sign me 456 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 9: up today for maybe some future gains potentially. 457 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 2: But could you imagine trying to protect Philip Rivers. Let's 458 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 2: say you're playing at your all pro level and you 459 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: got a forty four year old quarterback adding to even 460 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 2: more pressure, and you're playing against Seattle. Are you Are 461 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: you going to hold onto your defensive lineman a little 462 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: bit longer than normal. 463 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 9: There's definitely gonna be some decisions in their minds about, Okay, 464 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,239 Speaker 9: I got beat. Should I just let him go and 465 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 9: not get a penalty, or should I save this man's 466 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 9: life the same age as my dad, I just go 467 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 9: and tackle him around the knees and not allow anybody 468 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 9: to touch my quarterback. Because yeah, there's a lot of pressure. 469 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 9: You know, there's a lot of pressure when you got 470 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 9: a quarterback that can move a little bit and that's 471 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 9: young and they can withstand some hits. But I'm not 472 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 9: sure that Philip Rivers is there anymore. 473 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's out there. He's out there. 474 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 5: I don't give it as best. 475 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 9: I give him credit. 476 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: I mean, okay, this point, Joe, that our best option 477 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 2: is a forty four year old guy who hasn't played 478 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: in five years and never had a strong arm and 479 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 2: certainly doesn't have that. 480 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 5: Now. 481 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 9: He did a pretty good job last weekend. I'm not 482 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 9: sure how long he's gonna be able to do it. 483 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 9: I mean, hey, he gave his team a chance to win. 484 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: He did, but the defense, the defense gave them a 485 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: chance to They played really good defense. Philip had a 486 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 2: touchdown pen. Look, I know it's a great story, but 487 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: I gotta call it as I see it. His arm 488 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: is so weak, and I'm just amazed. Like some of 489 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 2: those passes they're bad. Really, they just float. 490 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 9: I mean they were floating when I was playing when 491 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 9: I was thirty years old, so you can only imagine 492 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 9: it's probably not going the other direction. So you give 493 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 9: him credit. But it does say something about the development 494 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 9: of that quarterback room in Indianapolis that they didn't trust 495 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 9: any of those guys. They'd rather have Philip come off 496 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 9: the couch at forty four with a noodle arm and say, hey, here, 497 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 9: you go prop them up there. Hopefully you can give 498 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 9: us at least a few passes off throwing an interception 499 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 9: and we might win the game. 500 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 2: How would you feel if you're against Miles Garrett and 501 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: he needs one more sack to break the record, fourth 502 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: quarter and you're blocking him. 503 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 9: So I'm assuming that we're winning because we're playing against 504 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 9: the Browns. Unfortunately, so we're winning. 505 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you know the game, but you're going against 506 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett. He needs one sack to break the record, 507 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 2: and its fourth quarter. 508 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 9: I wouldn't give it to him. But what I would 509 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 9: say to my quarterback is, hey, hold onto the ball 510 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 9: as long as you need to throw the ball into 511 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 9: the end zone. If we get a touchdown, great, But 512 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 9: if Miles sacks you, that's okay too. Because I always 513 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 9: cheer for players, I don't always cheer now for teams, 514 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 9: obviously the Browns, but I love Miles. I think he's 515 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 9: doing it the right way on the field. He's given 516 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 9: incredible effort, playing the game the right way. He's a 517 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 9: great team player, he says the right things off the field, 518 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 9: and so for him to be able to hold that 519 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 9: sack record I think would be special and to be honest, 520 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 9: I was a Packer fan, and when Brett Favre rolled 521 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 9: out and laid down on the turf to give Michael 522 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 9: Strahan that record, I felt like it was a little 523 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 9: bit tarnished. And I would love to see Miles with 524 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 9: that sack record where everybody says, without a doubt, this 525 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 9: is the deserving sack champion of all time. 526 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: In the end, you're joining us on behalf of the 527 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 2: officially licensed UNU game of the NFL. What's going on 528 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: with UNO in the NFL? 529 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 4: That's right. 530 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 9: I'm not shoving Hall of Fame beefsticks in your in 531 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 9: your mouth this time like it was last time when 532 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 9: we were there in Green Bay. But it's really cool. 533 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 9: I'm super excited that UNO, which is one of my 534 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 9: favorite family games, has put together this UNO Elite Playoff 535 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 9: tournament being held right now all over the country on 536 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 9: hobby shops and anybody can sign up. It's free to enter, 537 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 9: and if you register, you get a chance to win 538 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 9: an amazing thing that UNO's given away three days, two nights, 539 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 9: a trip to Las Vegas for their UNO Elite Championship. 540 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 9: The winner is going to walk away with ten grand 541 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 9: but most importantly, the most coveted trophy of all time 542 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 9: if you're a child in America or if you're a 543 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 9: parent of a kid, and that's the UNO Elite Trophy. 544 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 9: You're walking around with that peacock and a lot better 545 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 9: than if you had a Hall of Fame bus like 546 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 9: I have behind me. That is really the taj mahal 547 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 9: of trophy is if you're a dad or if you're 548 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 9: a kid. 549 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 2: Fans can sign up at UNO Elite Championship dot com. 550 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 2: Great to talk to you again. Happy holidays to you, Joe. 551 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 9: Happy holidays, Dan. Thanks for having me on the show again. 552 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 9: Great to see you, see you. 553 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: I don't think how many how many sacks did he 554 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: give up? But was he called for like three holding 555 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: penalties in his career? Like the numbers are pretty crazy? Yes, 556 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 2: Like where you go? What? Yeah? 557 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 5: Yes, Marvin, he's prime a. They didn't lose because of me. 558 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 2: Yes. If you're pointing fingers, is the reason why the 559 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: Browns lost, you didn't point it at Joe Thomas? Yeah, Pauling. 560 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 10: There's a couple of different reports, ones from the Cleveland 561 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 10: Browns team website. They said that Joe Thomas allowed thirty 562 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 10: sacks in six seven hundred pass block snaps. 563 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 2: How many times was he called for holding? See if 564 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: you can find that. Yeah, Jennifer and Washington. Hi Jennifer, 565 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: what's on your mind today? 566 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 11: Hi? 567 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 12: Dan? 568 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 13: Morning guys, Morning and a fluffy one to eighty over here. 569 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 8: Thanks. 570 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 13: I have a question for you, Dan, but real quick, 571 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 13: I did want to a happy birthday to my best 572 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 13: friend Nicholas. He turned me on your show. But so, Dan, 573 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 13: I think you had predicted Chief Lions for the Super Bowl? Yes, 574 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 13: who are your new picks? 575 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 4: Now? 576 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick with the Chiefs and the lines, you know, yes, yeah, 577 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: go ahead, start to finish on that. I can't be 578 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 2: a quitter. Now. I think the Rams are probably the 579 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: best team that I've seen. When everybody's playing at a 580 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: high level, it feels like the Rams. I keep waiting 581 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: for the Eagles to play better. I just it feels 582 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: like they're going to have one of those games. And 583 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: the Rams almost knocked them off last year, So I 584 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 2: would say the Rams and I man, I'm impressed with Denver. 585 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 2: They're playing at home with that defense and bo Nicks, 586 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: and he's played well, you know, because earlier in the 587 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: year it felt like, uh oh, he's regressing, and then 588 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you see him now and then 589 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 2: you see what he was building on in that first year. 590 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: I would say Denver, but Buffalo has a weird feel 591 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: to them. They just do. Yeah, Marvin, do you. 592 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 5: Think the Broncos are playing with house money? 593 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 4: Like? 594 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 6: You know what if we get to the AFC Championship 595 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 6: Game and we lose, you know what, great season? No 596 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 6: one expected us to get this far. You think they 597 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 6: played almost like the uh No Commanders last year. 598 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: I don't think you can say that to Sean Payton, like, 599 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: you know, he's here to win another Super Bowl. Now, 600 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: that puts him into a different category. Like a lot 601 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 2: of times we look at a coach who wins the 602 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. You know, when they win another Super Bowl, 603 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: just like quarterbacks, it puts them in a different category. Yeah, 604 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: mar oh, no, I'm with you. 605 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 6: But I feel the same way about the Buffalo Bills. 606 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 6: I said that yesterday, and you guys are like, oh, 607 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 6: if they lose to the Broncos, Buffalo, the fans don't 608 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 6: want to hear that. 609 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 2: Oh no, they're Buffalo's not playing with house money. 610 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, they're under pressure. 611 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 6: But I'm saying the Broncos might be because we didn't 612 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 6: expect him to get this far or be this good 613 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 6: this fast. 614 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: Well, they were a playoff team last year. I think 615 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: New England is different because we might look at them 616 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: and go, is this really their year? Because it all 617 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: kind of fell into place, and Drake May's played really well. 618 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: I think they've surprised me far more than Denver has. 619 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: Denver's defense is incredible, it is, yeah, point. 620 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 10: But if I'm the Patriots head coach or the Broncos 621 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 10: head coach, I say, look at Joe Burrow and the 622 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 10: Bengals four years ago. 623 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: Oh they'll be back. 624 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 10: Yeah, well, have lots of chances. Joe Burrow, he's going 625 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 10: right back to him and Jamar Chase right back. 626 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 4: I know. 627 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: I hate when people say that. I hate when they go, oh, 628 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: Drake May, it's not his turn to win an MVP. 629 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 2: You know he'll get his opportunity. You never know. And 630 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: I hate because we've seen what happened so quickly, whether 631 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: a team elevates or a team just falls apart. I mean, 632 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: the Bengals aren't close to being a super Bowl caliber 633 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 2: team even when everybody's healthy. 634 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 4: Uh. 635 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: David in Ohio, Hi, David, what's on your mind? 636 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 11: Hey, Dan's thinking of all these at L injuries. I 637 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 11: sources confirmed that Patrick Mahomes had a successful ATL surgery 638 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 11: in Dallas, Texas. It's really great that something successful has 639 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 11: come out of Dallas. 640 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, all right, David, all right. I thought there 641 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: was a big wind up there. It's always successful surgery always. 642 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: I had shoulder surgery. I didn't think it was successful, 643 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: you know, just saying sometimes it's not successful. This was 644 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 2: years ago where I had a torn labram and uh, 645 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 2: it's still not great. And you know, I just don't 646 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 2: want the doctor to say, yes, it was successful surgery. Yes, Pauline, 647 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: could you go. 648 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,959 Speaker 10: Back and say, hey, it it didn't work. 649 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 2: I'd like, no, I don't want to go back. No no, no, no, no, no, 650 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 2: No more surgeries. No more surgery. You're you're quitting. I 651 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: am quitting. I told my wife, I don't care what happens. 652 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: No more surgery. You're living. I can't arm falls off, 653 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: it stays off. I can't do it anymore. I'm a 654 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: game of operation. Yes, TOD and these teams legally say. 655 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 12: It's successful surgery, because that's just a phrase that everybody uses. 656 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 5: Like, what do they say about t J? 657 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 12: Watt situation, which may have been caused by one of 658 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 12: the Yeah, we took care of his lung. 659 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was a procedure. He was going for 660 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 2: treatment and then had the collapse lung, so he didn't 661 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: go in for a collapse long. He had to be 662 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: treated for a collapse long. And I'm still not sure 663 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: what happened in the situation like that. 664 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 10: That's been quiet. 665 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what happened. 666 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 2: Unless you're getting an injection and then that brought about 667 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: a collapse. 668 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 4: Long. 669 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: Isn't that what happened to Tyron Taylor? 670 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 10: Yeah, paint injection before the game. 671 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 5: There was the patient's fault. 672 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:52,479 Speaker 2: He had a bad reaction. 673 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 5: We did, we did. I don't know what it is. 674 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: He moved, it was his fault, yeah, Pauling. 675 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 10: A bunch of years ago, I had a thing called 676 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 10: pleurisy and they had to drain my lung with this 677 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 10: big syringe type thing and they said don't move, like 678 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 10: don't They held you almost like an a vice to 679 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 10: put it on. 680 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 2: Why did they think you were going to move to 681 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 2: begin with? 682 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 10: Well, they yeah, I don't move a lot generally in life. 683 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 10: But like I was in this little chair and they're 684 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 10: doing it and they're draining it and they're like, do 685 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 10: not shake, and I'm like, well, I'll try, but if 686 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 10: it's painful, there's you know, yeah, but you ry not. 687 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 2: You're not moving. I don't think anybody sits down and 688 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 2: go hey, we're going to inject you don't move okay, 689 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: Like you left your car running. 690 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 691 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, you know what, let me get 692 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 2: up for a moment. Oh, I got this cramp in 693 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 2: my leg. Let me get up. Yes, tun. 694 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 12: I also like when you go to get your blood drawn, 695 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 12: and if they screw it up the first so sometimes 696 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 12: multiple times they blame your veins, most of them screwing 697 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 12: it up, and they have to do it a second 698 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 12: or third time, they got to stick you. 699 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough because I'm not good with needles to 700 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 2: begin with. By the way, I think Nick Wright's wife 701 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 2: accused me of having maybe botox. When we went to dinner. 702 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 2: She showed up yeah yeah, to your face, Yeah, to 703 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: your yeah face, to my yeah what used to be 704 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: my face, my new face. But I think that she 705 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: wanted to know if I had had botox, and I 706 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 2: said no, but I'm going to deny it publicly. I 707 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 2: haven't had any cosmetic surgery. This is the second person 708 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 2: who's asked me, you know, don't I. 709 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 12: Just gonna have to admit it if they keep asking 710 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 12: you about. 711 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: I would have admitted it to her. She was like, 712 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 2: you haven't had anything done up here, but you know 713 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 2: my forehead or I said no, no, yes, Martin. 714 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 5: Take that as a huge compliment. Yeah for sure twice. 715 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, yeah, I mean, I'm not saying I 716 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 2: shouldn't have cosmetic surgery. I what todd years ago I was. 717 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 12: When I was at the gym, back in the good 718 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 12: old days. I was accused by a few people, like, 719 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 12: you know, you're taking steroids now. They're like, oh, didn't 720 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 12: you used to work out a long time ago? 721 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 2: What happened Now's when you take this. 722 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 5: Dramatically, it's I used to work out. 723 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 2: I would say, your arms are huge, they are huge, 724 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 2: But what. 725 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 5: Does that catch of your waist is, Well, that's up 726 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 5: to you. 727 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: That's that's up to you. 728 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 10: I'm sure he's gonna change his habits now. 729 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 730 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 5: It's a lot easy to stand in front of the 731 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 5: mirror of lifting the weights up. 732 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 2: But your arms, you got huge arms, huge, you got 733 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 2: offensive lineman arms. 734 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 12: I'm gonna push over, though I have know like core 735 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 12: or center of gravity. 736 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 5: You could just blow me over with a feather. 737 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 2: But your mid section is like big dom of the Eagles. 738 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 5: I think that's a fair noalogy. I had to come 739 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 5: back to the. 740 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 2: Uh okay, let's take a break here back after this 741 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: Dan Patrick show. 742 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 743 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 744 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen. 745 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 2: Live seeking would you update me on the poll results 746 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 2: so far during today's program? 747 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 14: Heck, yeah, all right, I would love to do that 748 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 14: right now. 749 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 5: We got up there. 750 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 14: The steel This one's from Paul Steelers are threatening they'll 751 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 14: have an early playoff exit or they're not making the playoffs. 752 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 14: Right now, seventy nine percent of the audience have them 753 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 14: as an early playoff exit. 754 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 2: Okay, I got a. 755 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 14: Middle of the road on that one. 756 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: Here's Aaron Rodgers after last night's win. 757 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 15: There's some cast offs. If you look at our roster, 758 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 15: which it makes it really special. You know, Kenny Gamewell 759 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 15: signed a next to nothing contract. You know Connor Hayward 760 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 15: after thought had a touchdown run. You know Mark Quz 761 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 15: been on a couple of teams. Adam Thielen got cut. 762 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 15: Samuel was on the street for a long time. So 763 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 15: it says a lot about the character of the guys 764 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 15: we brought in. 765 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 2: It is patchwork now. Fritzie said, do you think Aaron 766 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,919 Speaker 2: Rodgers is saying that as if to say, hey, look 767 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 2: at what I'm doing with all these cast offs here? 768 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 2: And I thought, no, I don't think so. 769 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 12: It's a little bit of like, look, we're about to win. 770 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 2: The division Aaron against. 771 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 4: You. 772 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 5: That's a little of that. 773 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 14: Yes, I thought it was more like like, he too 774 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 14: is a cast off. They're all sort of on this 775 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 14: island of misfit toys, you know, and they sort of 776 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 14: all pieced together. I felt like he was including himself 777 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 14: in that. 778 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, But he didn't say I'm a cast 779 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 2: off too. 780 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 14: No, he did it, Yeah, they did it, But he 781 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 14: just said if you look at this roster, it's a 782 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 14: lot of castouts. 783 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 2: If he had included himself in there. 784 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 14: I took that as the subtext, Oh, like me and 785 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 14: these guys, given Aaron the benefit of the down. 786 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 2: He's a little bit of a cast off himself. He 787 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 2: is a subtext. Yes, he's a walking, breathing subtext. 788 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 10: Yes, Paul of Aaron Rodgers throwing numbers are up this 789 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 10: year sixty three percent to sixty seven this year. His 790 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 10: touchdowns are up, his interceptions will be a little lower 791 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 10: than last year. His quarterback rating right now is ninety nine, 792 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 10: last year is ninety. 793 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. 794 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 2: I mean these are all serviceable numbers here. I just 795 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 2: don't think it's a great team, Yes, Todd. 796 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: Only someone with. 797 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 12: My ability to experience could take this group of downtrodden 798 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 12: folks that no one else wants to get them to 799 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 12: possibly a division time. 800 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 2: Let me thank you Dodd Martin in Atlanta, Hi Martin. 801 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 5: Again. 802 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 16: I just want to say thanks again and happy all 803 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 16: day to the fellas. I heard a great comment from 804 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 16: Brady Quit the other day about the field turf issue, 805 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 16: and he was saying that both turfs and grass could 806 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 16: be quality fields, but it's when you play on the 807 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 16: other one and make the change it causes the problems 808 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 16: because you have different traction and he gave different grips 809 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 16: and you play it differently, and that's where a lot 810 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 16: of these injuries come from. Not the turf itself, it's 811 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 16: the playing between two different types of turfs. 812 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 2: Well, but you have the non contact injury. That's the 813 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 2: tricky part with this. Now that could be the surface 814 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 2: if you slide, it could be the shoes that you wear. 815 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 2: But the NFL is getting around to commissioning a study 816 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 2: for this, and once again, as Joe Thomas said, the 817 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 2: owners it comes down to they just don't want to 818 00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 2: spend the money. 819 00:39:59,560 --> 00:39:59,959 Speaker 5: But I would. 820 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 2: I think if I'm going to have an all purpose turf, 821 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 2: if I'm going to have concerts in there, I want 822 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 2: to get something that is going to be durable, that 823 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 2: will hold up. But you would think somebody would be 824 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 2: able to come up with a surface that would be 825 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 2: a fishing for everybody. Cost of fission for everybody. I mean, 826 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 2: the last thing you want is, oh, you know what, 827 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 2: I didn't spend that extra money. I just lost my 828 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 2: forty seven million dollar quarterback. 829 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 10: Yeah, Pauling, I'm looking at the description of field turf 830 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 10: which most places use, and they use crumbled up rubber 831 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 10: which gives a little more get like slide so your 832 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 10: feet don't catch as often. That's the goal of field 833 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 10: turf and the rubber to let the foot slide a 834 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 10: little bit. 835 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you can see it come up if you've 836 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 2: ever been on the turf, you can actually see it 837 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 2: when people run or cut. You can see little pieces 838 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 2: of rubber come up. Final hour, Mike Golick Senior will 839 00:40:55,120 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 2: join us. Arch Manning is coming back, no surprise. More 840 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 2: phone calls coming up eight seven to seven three DP 841 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 2: show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com. Two hours in the 842 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 2: books on this Tuesday. One more to go with Fritzie, Satan, 843 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,919 Speaker 2: mar Paully, Yours truly in the BRGS.