Speaker 1: You're listening to Part Time Genius, the production of Kaleidoscope
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Speaker 2: Guess what Will What's that Mango?
Speaker 1: So it is day five, the grand finale of our
Speaker 1: week long series about curiosity, and I can think of
Speaker 1: no better way to celebrate than by talking with two
Speaker 1: of the most curious people we know.
Speaker 2: Two of the most curious people we know who aren't our.
Speaker 1: Kids, definitely not our kids. They are the brilliant podcasters
Speaker 1: Josh Clark and Chuck Bryan aka Josh and Chuck, the
Speaker 1: host of Stuff.
Speaker 3: You should know.
Speaker 1: We've known these guys for such a long time now,
Speaker 1: so we decided to call them up and see if
Speaker 1: they'd come on our show and talk about what it's
Speaker 1: like to be curious for a living, how we all
Speaker 1: got to be so curious, if curiosity has ever gotten
Speaker 1: us in trouble, and so much more. It's going to
Speaker 1: be so much fun. And before I say let's dive in,
Speaker 1: I should mention that at the end of the episode,
Speaker 1: we'll tell you about today's listener activity, which is your
Speaker 1: very last chance this week to win a Part Time
Speaker 1: Genius prize pack.
Speaker 2: It's pretty exciting. You definitely don't want to miss that.
Speaker 2: All right, mego go ahead and say it.
Speaker 3: Let's dive in.
Speaker 2: Hey, their podcast listeners, Welcome to Part Time Genius. I'm
Speaker 2: Will Pearson and as always I'm joined by my good
Speaker 2: friend Mangesh Hot Ticketer and sitting behind that big glass booth,
Speaker 2: that's our wonderful pal Dylan fag And you all know
Speaker 2: Dylan you're always looking forward to what he's up to today.
Speaker 2: You'll never believe it. Dylan is waving a poster he
Speaker 2: made and it says, I'm so glad I'm not the
Speaker 2: only producer here today that has to listen to Will
Speaker 2: and Mango's bad jokes. It's good to see you, Dylan.
Speaker 1: He is right, because we have super producer Jerry Roland
Speaker 1: in the booth with us today, and we've also got
Speaker 1: the star talent that she wrangles regularly, Chuck and Josh
Speaker 1: chatting with us. We're so excited and Chuck and Joshua's
Speaker 1: so good to have you here.
Speaker 3: Hi guys, Hello dudes, thank you for having us.
Speaker 1: We're so excited to have you. But before we start,
Speaker 1: and since we are grace with Jerry's presence, I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask Jerry some questions about the two of you,
Speaker 1: or Will and I Wilba both ask questions about the
Speaker 1: two of you. So, Jerry, Today's thing is all about curiosity.
Speaker 1: We're doing this whole series on curiosity. Obviously, we've got
Speaker 1: two very curious people here. But do you notice anything
Speaker 1: specific about Chuck and Josh's curiosity, Like you ever see
Speaker 1: them being curious outside the office? Do you see them
Speaker 1: being curious on tape? Like, tell me a little bit
Speaker 1: about what you think of the two of them.
Speaker 4: I know it's it's funny, like in the context of
Speaker 4: stuff you should know. I feel like we still have
Speaker 4: conversations leading up to a recording or even after we
Speaker 4: stop a recording where we're like, oh my god, that
Speaker 4: was did you hear about this? Did you hear about that?
Speaker 4: So I feel like that curiosity is kind of inherent
Speaker 4: and always there. Outside of that, I see Chuck every
Speaker 4: now and then, because anybody who listens to the show
Speaker 4: knows that our daughters go to school together. So luckily,
Speaker 4: you know, other than that, I wouldn't ever see Chuck
Speaker 4: in the real world. But we've known each other for
Speaker 4: so long, and we've kind of had this parallel path
Speaker 4: for so long that when we're curious about something that's
Speaker 4: usually in the sort of like we're getting older sort
Speaker 4: of realm of like I wonder why my knees stopped working, right,
Speaker 4: I wonder if this ever stops?
Speaker 5: Or is this it?
Speaker 3: You know? What's the A?
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's that?
Speaker 2: Which is the episode that come out next week? That's
Speaker 2: going to be That's be great now I'm about it, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: One of the things we've been talking about recently is
Speaker 2: for curious people, they're routines, their superstitions, and obviously for
Speaker 2: a show that's been successful for so long, Jerry curious,
Speaker 2: if you can take us behind the scenes, are there
Speaker 2: any routines or superstitions about the show that we should
Speaker 2: all know about.
Speaker 4: Chuck used to do this thing that ended a long
Speaker 4: time ago, so I guess I guess it's fine that
Speaker 4: he stopped, but he used to do his cheeks and
Speaker 4: if he's down for it, he might give.
Speaker 2: Us, Oh wow, that's impressive and a really horrid noise. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so that used to be.
Speaker 4: I don't know if we have like any superstitious type
Speaker 4: of routines, but like these days, when we show up
Speaker 4: to record, it's like, hey, you guys ready, yep, clap, Okay,
Speaker 4: let's go. There's not a ton of back and forth
Speaker 4: because we say that honestly for the for the show.
Speaker 1: I mean the one time we recorded with you before
Speaker 1: you guys did the same thing. You were like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's go.
Speaker 3: And it was.
Speaker 1: For someone who is not as good without a script
Speaker 1: in front of me or talking points. It was pretty
Speaker 1: amazing to watch you at work. We do, like Jerry said, though,
Speaker 1: we save it, like we actually tell one another this
Speaker 1: is gold, save it for the podcast. So there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of front loading because we recorded it all
Speaker 1: and basically release our conversations.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: M hm. Is there anything that makes you feel particularly
Speaker 1: good on Mike? Like, I mean, this is an old reference,
Speaker 1: but like Tiger Woods would wear red shirts because he
Speaker 1: felt like it brought out a certain energy or something like,
Speaker 1: is there anything that gets you excited to tape?
Speaker 4: Mmmm?
Speaker 5: Chuck here, I do I need to say that?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 6: Every time we're so used to doing that and stuff
Speaker 6: like this. You know what I started doing, and this
Speaker 6: was sort of during COVID when everyone was kind of
Speaker 6: forced to go virtual or whatever and set up the
Speaker 6: home studios.
Speaker 5: Is I started.
Speaker 6: I kind of went the other way rather than just
Speaker 6: being a complete schlub. I would get up and take
Speaker 6: a shower and you know, sort of dress for work.
Speaker 6: And I continue to do that on my work days
Speaker 6: because I don't know, it's just sort of a routine
Speaker 6: that I feel like sort of helps me even though
Speaker 6: I'm at home, kind of make a transition, you know,
Speaker 6: Superman style.
Speaker 2: M That was like our old friend that would do
Speaker 2: formal Fridays when when we were all working from home
Speaker 2: during COVID, one of our good friends would would have
Speaker 2: a fun Friday and be like show up on a
Speaker 2: video and just like wearing just the most sparkly beautiful
Speaker 2: dress and you're like, Okay, I guess it's it's normal Friday. Yeah, sorry, Josh,
Speaker 2: we're gonna say something.
Speaker 3: I did the exact opposite of that, where I can
Speaker 3: just go quite a while into the day without taking
Speaker 3: a shower first.
Speaker 2: I like, he says it with pride too. It's like
Speaker 2: it's like it was bragging. I can do. I can
Speaker 2: keep going.
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, with the hygiene thing for me, not
Speaker 4: that you asked, but I'm giving you an leaving. I mean,
Speaker 4: like during COVID, like I did brush my teeth every day,
Speaker 4: that it might not be until about five pmsh Oh, wow,
Speaker 4: is the sun going up or down?
Speaker 3: Maybe I should.
Speaker 5: That was the teeth is a darker.
Speaker 3: For sharing that year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew you were just really dying to ask.
Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's go way back pre COVID to your
Speaker 2: childhood days, which just a few years before COVID. Let's
Speaker 2: talk about curiosity from the earliest days. If somebody knew
Speaker 2: you when you were you know, eight, nine, ten years old,
Speaker 2: would they have seen this coming? Would they have been like, Yeah,
Speaker 2: this kid is so curious that one day they're going
Speaker 2: to be involved in something that involves knowledge or learning.
Speaker 2: Let's let's maybe Josh will start with you. You want
Speaker 2: to jump in first.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, I would say, this is Josh, I would
Speaker 3: say probably not. Actually I was never like a really
Speaker 3: good student. My curiosity essentially extended to like what does
Speaker 3: this taste like. I wasn't like an uncurious kid where
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, beating up like nerds or
Speaker 3: anything like that. But I just wasn't nearly as curious
Speaker 3: as I am now. It just seems to have been
Speaker 3: something that developed as a grown up. Actually, so I
Speaker 3: was like a C student c I'm going to say
Speaker 3: CMB generous to myself mostly through school, all the way
Speaker 3: through high school essentially, and then once I got to college.
Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure what happened, but it was like
Speaker 3: a switch flipped to my head and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: I was I was a good student. I wanted to
Speaker 3: learn everything that I possibly could, and I've been like
Speaker 3: that since then. So I guess if you're not curious
Speaker 3: out there, and you feel like a schlub and you're
Speaker 3: under nineteen, then take hope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or start a podcast. Yeah, now that's terrific, Chuck,
Speaker 2: how about you?
Speaker 5: I was sort of curious.
Speaker 6: I mean I was an AB student most probably a
Speaker 6: solid B student in school, and I didn't give the
Speaker 6: most effort. I kind of skated by a lot of
Speaker 6: times on charm. So my teachers, my teachers are. My
Speaker 6: teacher all liked me, and you know, I wanted to
Speaker 6: be liked by my teachers, and so I and fellow students,
Speaker 6: so I think they would have thought I was maybe
Speaker 6: precocious more than curious. But outside of school, I think
Speaker 6: I was pretty curious about the outside world, not as
Speaker 6: much formal studies. But I grew up camping, and I
Speaker 6: grew up in the woods, and so I was always
Speaker 6: curious about sort of nature and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: But I also was you know, wasn't the kid who sat.
Speaker 6: Around and watched Nova in elementary school unless I had
Speaker 6: to write a paper on it.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 1: One of these things we're doing for Kaleidoscope is trying
Speaker 1: to collect moments of science, like the first moment that
Speaker 1: you sort of had this sense of wonder about the
Speaker 1: world and or about a topic or a subject or something.
Speaker 1: And I was curious, like, is there a moment for
Speaker 1: either of view about like when you discovered something that
Speaker 1: you were just completely mesmerized.
Speaker 6: I'll jump in because I recently found a box of
Speaker 6: old school work of mine from elementary school, and I
Speaker 6: did not remember how obsessed with NASA and space travel
Speaker 6: I was. But when I went back and looked through this,
Speaker 6: I had a bunch of papers in school projects and
Speaker 6: it seemed to be a well that I kind of
Speaker 6: went back to a lot. And that's not something that
Speaker 6: I'm still like super super into. Josh's more into that
Speaker 6: stuff than me now, but I definitely remember looking back
Speaker 6: through this papers like man, I was really and I
Speaker 6: guess we were kids of the Space Shuttle program like
Speaker 6: being birthed, and looking back, I was pretty into that
Speaker 6: at the time.
Speaker 1: I mean there was so much romance around it, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the idea of going beyond Earth and all the excitement
Speaker 1: of science in a.
Speaker 6: Way, Yeah, totally, So that'd probably be it for me.
Speaker 6: Science and then just camping in the natural world again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about you, Josh.
Speaker 3: For me, it was writing. I always wanted to be
Speaker 3: a writer, and I remember in third grade I had
Speaker 3: a teacher who was particularly supportive about that, Miss Chamberlain,
Speaker 3: and ever since then, I was like, I'm going to
Speaker 3: grow up to be a writer, and luckily I did.
Speaker 3: That was the first thing I was that kind of
Speaker 3: got me. The first thing I remember like starting to
Speaker 3: learn about that I was really interested in was history,
Speaker 3: I think in like ninth grade or something like that.
Speaker 3: So those two things definitely converge. I studied history in
Speaker 3: college and I have been writing ever since third grade.
Speaker 3: So I guess I fulfilled my promise, is what I'm
Speaker 3: trying to say.
Speaker 1: And what was it about writing that drew you?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Do you have a particular style, did you like communicating
Speaker 1: a certain thing? Did you just like spending time with
Speaker 1: a page.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think the fact that I can't
Speaker 3: answer that makes me feel like I was kind of
Speaker 3: born as a writer. You know. I read a lot
Speaker 3: as a kid too, But I never remember saying like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm learning tips and techniques, and I wasn't absorbing the
Speaker 3: writing for style. I was just enjoying it. But I
Speaker 3: think along the way, I was learning a lot of style,
Speaker 3: and I'd gotten pretty good at fiction. I don't know
Speaker 3: around the time I got hired to How Stuff Works,
Speaker 3: where I was actually like, this isn't that bad. And
Speaker 3: then when I got hired to how Stuff Works, where
Speaker 3: our podcasts grew out of Chuck and I both got
Speaker 3: hired as writers for that website, my writing shifted over
Speaker 3: from fiction to nonfiction, and there was a huge shift,
Speaker 3: and I remember kind of like mourning not having an
Speaker 3: opportunity to write fiction anymore. But then I kind of
Speaker 3: became obsessed with nonfiction, and I think that was my
Speaker 3: curiosity at that point took a new step from one
Speaker 3: plateau to like a new higher level I guess where
Speaker 3: I was just ingesting more and more information because nonfiction
Speaker 3: kind of requires that writing nonfiction, so that was a
Speaker 3: big change. For me and improvement in my curiosity too.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny because you're both writers, right, Like
Speaker 1: Chuck came in with a script, or at least part
Speaker 1: of a script, right, Yeahine Hostiff works.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I didn't have any professional writing experience, but like Josh,
Speaker 6: I was writing as a kid and had supported teachers.
Speaker 6: In that stack of old school work, I found a
Speaker 6: little piece of comment writing I did. I did Henry
Speaker 6: David Thureaux satire in like the seventh grade about a
Speaker 6: guy who goes to the woods to live deliberately and
Speaker 6: it turns out it sucks and he prefers the city
Speaker 6: for various reasons. But I read back through it and
Speaker 6: I was like, man, I mean it wasn't the worst
Speaker 6: piece of writing for a twelve year old and had
Speaker 6: teachers who encouraged that. But I had, you know, been
Speaker 6: knocking about trying to write screenplays and working in the
Speaker 6: film business. So I didn't have any real professional experience
Speaker 6: at all. And then our boss, our colleague, Connell Byrne, Yeah,
Speaker 6: I sat down with him and I said, all that
Speaker 6: had to give you or you know, I'll give you
Speaker 6: the first twenty pages of my latest script. And thank god,
Speaker 6: we all know Connell and he's a big movie guy
Speaker 6: and has acted some and done some film production work.
Speaker 6: So anyone else and I probably would not have gotten
Speaker 6: that job. But Connall and I had a great just
Speaker 6: a great report in conversation and he said, well this
Speaker 6: counts You're hired.
Speaker 5: Wow, thank god.
Speaker 2: Pretty terrific. When you think about the crazy rainge of
Speaker 2: episodes that you guys have done. You know, Josh you
Speaker 2: mentioned history, Chuck you talked about science and just that
Speaker 2: range there, and in terms of the curiosity and desire
Speaker 2: to learn in different categories, do you guys, when you're
Speaker 2: coming up with your topics find yourselves going to your
Speaker 2: comfort zone or your primary area of curiosity and say,
Speaker 2: you know, Josh in your case going to history, and
Speaker 2: Chuck in your case, you know, if it is the
Speaker 2: natural world or things like that, or do you find
Speaker 2: yourself trying to push yourself to come up with episodes
Speaker 2: that are just so outside the realm of something that
Speaker 2: you know about or knew about before. How do you
Speaker 2: think about that process?
Speaker 3: I think it depends on the week. Actually, Like if
Speaker 3: we both have a Bonker's week, we probably will do
Speaker 3: something like history or maybe even pop culture, We've been
Speaker 3: doing a lot of pop culture episodes lately, and they're
Speaker 3: interesting and fascinating and everyone loves them and they're fun
Speaker 3: to do, and we already know a lot of it
Speaker 3: because we live through it. It's usually gen X, pop
Speaker 3: culture nostalgia kind of stuff, but then you know other time,
Speaker 3: So yeah, I definitely try to choose ones that I
Speaker 3: don't know anything about that I think is kind of interesting,
Speaker 3: or maybe I know a little bit about it, but
Speaker 3: I want to know more. We recently did one on
Speaker 3: nuclear waste, Getting rid of nuclear Waste. We're both very
Speaker 3: troubled to find that the world doesn't really have any
Speaker 3: good ideas about getting rid of the nuclear waste that's
Speaker 3: been accumulating since the forties. And there's some good ideas
Speaker 3: on the horizon, but they're not here yet, and we're
Speaker 3: just basically shuffling our nuclear waste from one place to another.
Speaker 3: I had no idea about that. I just knew that
Speaker 3: there would be something interesting about nuclear waste disposal, even
Speaker 3: though it sounds kind of boring. It turned out not
Speaker 3: to be. And that's usually the case. Whenever we push ourselves,
Speaker 3: we find that there's something way more interesting about the thing.
Speaker 3: Than we even thought initially.
Speaker 6: M Yeah, for sure, go ahead, Chuck, No, yeah, for sure,
Speaker 6: that's it.
Speaker 3: That was Chuck.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like, you ever find that, you know,
Speaker 1: when you chase ideas on the web, I feel like
Speaker 1: you end up going down a rabbit hole of different
Speaker 1: topics that lead one to another to another. Do you
Speaker 1: find that the topics that you cover ever make you
Speaker 1: daisy chain into like other topics?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that happens has happened since the beginning.
Speaker 6: I feel like, and we'll say it during the episode, like,
Speaker 6: you know, we'll bring up a part of that episode
Speaker 6: and say, actually, this would make you know, a good
Speaker 6: full length episode. Something we just sort of might briefly
Speaker 6: mention that ties into the current topic. So I feel
Speaker 6: like that happens all the time, you know, when we
Speaker 6: were fully writing all the stuff all the time, full
Speaker 6: time for us, before we got some freelance help, it
Speaker 6: happened more in the research stage. But I think now
Speaker 6: it tends to happen in the episode where like, hey,
Speaker 6: you know, we should do a whole one on this
Speaker 6: person that just had a very small part to play
Speaker 6: in this story.
Speaker 3: One of the other ways that happens too is when
Speaker 3: we're researching for an episode, a question will come up.
Speaker 3: I mean tons of questions come up, But then you
Speaker 3: go to answer that question because the rule of thumb
Speaker 3: is if we have that question somewhere out there listening,
Speaker 3: it's going to have the same question and we don't
Speaker 3: want them to end the podcast with that question. Still,
Speaker 3: we try to fill as many answers as we can,
Speaker 3: and as you're going and finding an answer to that,
Speaker 3: you'll turn up some mention of something else that you
Speaker 3: hadn't turned up before, and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: there's this whole richer component to what you're explaining in
Speaker 3: the episode. It's really cool. I've never thought of it
Speaker 3: as daisy chaining before. It's a much more pleasant way
Speaker 3: of looking at it. But to me, it was just
Speaker 3: turning stuff up. I like daisy chaining way more.
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Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Would we think about how much technology has changed information
Speaker 2: gathering over the past decade, and then of course that's
Speaker 2: just gotten so much faster in the past three or
Speaker 2: four years, and there's this desire for instant gratification, having
Speaker 2: a question being able to answer it within you a
Speaker 2: matter of seconds or minutes. Has that changed how you
Speaker 2: guys think about making the show or or how do
Speaker 2: you think about that piece of it? Just knowing that
Speaker 2: we do live in a world now where people are
Speaker 2: instantly going to whether it's an AI source or their
Speaker 2: search engine to try to answer questions, how do you
Speaker 2: feel like you guys set yourself apart from that?
Speaker 5: Wooh, that's a tough one being human.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, you know, the Internet was It's not
Speaker 6: like we've been around for a while, but it's not
Speaker 6: like we were doing card catalog research.
Speaker 5: So the Internet was always a part of our research. Yep.
Speaker 5: In fact, we did a.
Speaker 6: Whole episode about like kind of I don't remember what
Speaker 6: we called it, Josh, but kind of how to do
Speaker 6: your best research and you know, present things truthfully and factually.
Speaker 6: So we've gotten pretty good at sussing stuff out. I
Speaker 6: think these days it is sort of a different realm
Speaker 6: now with AI and you know, all the weird deep
Speaker 6: fake stuff. Just to make sure that you're not getting
Speaker 6: bad information or whatever, so we probably have to dot
Speaker 6: our eyes and cross our tea's a little more closely.
Speaker 5: Now, Yeah, that's a tough question.
Speaker 3: I've found that it's getting harder and harder and harder.
Speaker 3: It seems like the pace of clearly AI written and
Speaker 3: researched articles has not quite hit a singularity, but it's
Speaker 3: definitely sped up in the last couple of months. I
Speaker 3: feel like, yeah, there's a lot of crud out there, yep,
Speaker 3: and a lot of it is not reliable at all.
Speaker 3: I use bing because I think Google's search results are
Speaker 3: just a total mess, and duc ducgo is great, but
Speaker 3: it's too slow. So I've kind of started bing and
Speaker 3: like everything else has the AI result at the top
Speaker 3: whenever you search for something, and I've found like it's
Speaker 3: just flat out wrong. A lot of the times you'll
Speaker 3: go and click on the source and the source doesn't
Speaker 3: say anything like what the AI is telling you SA.
Speaker 3: So I've learned not to trust that, and then going
Speaker 3: and finding Okay, well, I need to find the answer
Speaker 3: to this question somewhere. I might be on page two
Speaker 3: or three of the search results before I find something
Speaker 3: that's clearly reliable, that knows what it's talking about and
Speaker 3: is yeah, can give me the answer I need. That
Speaker 3: is not at all how it used to be. Yeah,
Speaker 3: when you did search, you could read everything on page
Speaker 3: one and you just had the biggest, best, like deep
Speaker 3: knowledge of what you were talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now it's just it's just not there anymore. Like the
Speaker 3: Internet has changed dramatically, and it seems like it's really
Speaker 3: hit an inflection point in the last couple of months.
Speaker 3: It's funny because like it went from you had to
Speaker 3: do work to do research to having research at your
Speaker 3: fingertips to having to work to do research again. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really crazy. I had that experience not too
Speaker 2: long ago where finished reading this fantastic book and was
Speaker 2: reading it with a friend, and so we were going
Speaker 2: to have a conversation about it and even just to
Speaker 2: like remember the sequence of events put into an AI source,
Speaker 2: you know, give me the overview, the plot overview of
Speaker 2: this story, and it was just so completely inaccurate. It
Speaker 2: was bonkers. Like all I was asking for was a
Speaker 2: plot summary from this book to then be able to
Speaker 2: walk through it and have the conversation around it. And
Speaker 2: it was really bizarre. I'm sure all of that will
Speaker 2: get better and it will improve, but it was just weird.
Speaker 2: So I guess at the same time, part of what
Speaker 2: people are turning to you guys for is to make
Speaker 2: sense of that. Like, you guys are doing the heavy lifting.
Speaker 2: You guys are navigating all of the nonsense that's out there,
Speaker 2: but also a lot of the great information that's out there,
Speaker 2: and so your job is to try to sort of
Speaker 2: cut through that and get to the interesting stuff. I'm
Speaker 2: sure it's gotten more challenging, but it's I guess it's
Speaker 2: the challenge that you guys take on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know you want to hear something about me, guys.
Speaker 2: I do state your name first, though.
Speaker 5: This is Chuck.
Speaker 6: And I'm not doing it because I'm taking some big
Speaker 6: like moral ethical stand or anything.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 6: I'm not doing it because I'm just some old gen
Speaker 6: exer that doesn't want to roll with things. But I
Speaker 6: have never I wouldn't know how to use AI, Like
Speaker 6: I wouldn't know if someone said, hey, use AI to
Speaker 6: do whatever, I would.
Speaker 5: Know how to do that.
Speaker 6: I would have to look up like do you have
Speaker 6: to go to a website and sign up for a
Speaker 6: thing and then enter a question like That's how sort
Speaker 6: of in the dark about all of that stuff I
Speaker 6: am right now because.
Speaker 5: I just I don't feel like I I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't feel like I need it.
Speaker 6: Like everything is going fine for me as far as
Speaker 6: how I do my job and get my work done,
Speaker 6: So I don't need it as a tool. But I
Speaker 6: wouldn't even know how to go about starting that kind
Speaker 6: of thing.
Speaker 3: It's pretty easy, Chuck, You just go out into your
Speaker 3: yard and yell it. I feel like though, that's gen
Speaker 3: x is, that's like the technology right there where like
Speaker 3: the generation before. So I guess the Boomers if they
Speaker 3: didn't pick up on the internet, yeah, they got left behind,
Speaker 3: and a lot of them did. Like my dad does
Speaker 3: not use email. He doesn't text, and it's so maddening.
Speaker 3: It's like you have to pick up the phone and
Speaker 3: call him and you have a conversation and you can't
Speaker 3: just ask a question, you know, but he doesn't care.
Speaker 3: But he he would have no idea how to send
Speaker 3: an email now right that like us right now, Chuck me, Jerry,
Speaker 3: you guys, if we don't learn that, we're gonna get
Speaker 3: left behind. That maybe, okay, that's not the end of
Speaker 3: the world. I don't think AI will bring about the
Speaker 3: end of the world, but us not learning to use
Speaker 3: like chat GPT won't bring about the end of the world,
Speaker 3: I think, but it is we are at that point
Speaker 3: I feel like right now and I don't I should
Speaker 3: say I don't know. I don't know how to use
Speaker 3: it either.
Speaker 2: Do you think you guys will do an episode on
Speaker 2: how chat GPT works?
Speaker 3: We did?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did, you did, and without using it?
Speaker 3: We did, right, that's what we do. Well, it's very
Speaker 3: much in step. We we did an episode on it. No,
Speaker 3: we didn't use it. But one of the the key
Speaker 3: components of that episode, if I remember correctly, Chuck, was
Speaker 3: we were just a gog that this had arrived, yeah,
Speaker 3: and that we were both kind of like it's starting
Speaker 3: I can't believe it, but it is starting right now,
Speaker 3: and I think that's true.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So in a completely different vein. Well, I have
Speaker 1: two questions and they're completely unrelated. What one is is
Speaker 1: just because I'm curious. I know, Josh, you said used
Speaker 1: to hate your voice, and then someone told you sounded
Speaker 1: like a muppet, and then you started loving your voice.
Speaker 1: I'm curious. I always wanted to be a Fozzy Bear,
Speaker 1: but I think I'm actually a Kermit. I'm curious, are
Speaker 1: are you a specific muppet? And does anyone else have
Speaker 1: a spirit animal Muppet on this line.
Speaker 2: I did not see that question coming. Segue speaking of Ai,
Speaker 2: which Muppet are you?
Speaker 6: Wow, it's a tough one because it's like, which Muppet
Speaker 6: do you aspire to be? Which one do you probably
Speaker 6: most realistically identify with. It's probably easier to assign that
Speaker 6: to Josh and Jerry than it is myself.
Speaker 3: Thank you for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you can also answer that way you can,
Speaker 2: you can give them Muppet names.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I aspire to be a cool, like
Speaker 6: rock and roll guy, so I would want to be
Speaker 6: in the Electric Mayhem.
Speaker 3: Oh nice, that's a good call. Any of them, I
Speaker 3: would go, Chuck, I would put you down as I
Speaker 3: don't know that you'd be a cross between Doctor Teeth
Speaker 3: and the sax Player, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 3: I like you, Josh.
Speaker 5: Josh is kind of Kermity.
Speaker 3: I've always yeah, I mean, I definitely if I do
Speaker 3: resemble a Muppet, is Kermit for sure? That's just vocally.
Speaker 3: I've never really identified with Kermit much like watching him
Speaker 3: on screen, but I've never been like that's my soul mate. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I've always loved Grover as a kid. I thought Grover
Speaker 3: was great he was my favorite. Yeah, but when I
Speaker 3: look down in my arms and think of a Muppet,
Speaker 3: I see red. So maybe I guess Elmo Elmo. But
Speaker 3: I hate being tickled. That's the weird.
Speaker 2: You have my word, Josh, I will never tickle you.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm going to hold you to that.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm thinking about these guys, and I've never
Speaker 4: ever thought about this before, but if I had to assign,
Speaker 4: I might assign Josh Fazzi Beer.
Speaker 3: I'll take that. I can see that.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, Chuck, you have this baritone voice, and I
Speaker 4: can't if we're talking vocally, I can't really think of anybody.
Speaker 4: But the first visual I had was one of the
Speaker 4: little old guys up in the in the yeah balcony. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's basically you guys. And I might be more of
Speaker 4: like a beaker. Like I don't talk a lot, but
Speaker 4: I'm kind of running around a little anxious and out
Speaker 4: of sort.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the guys names in the Statler and Walter.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a bit off mic. I'm a bit more
Speaker 6: of a heer mudgeon. I don't present like that on
Speaker 6: the show, but in real I r L. I'm probably
Speaker 6: more like those guys.
Speaker 5: Now that I think about.
Speaker 4: It, Yeah, I can tell you when it comes to
Speaker 4: like school functions, it brings out the school function.
Speaker 5: God, there's just too many guys.
Speaker 3: Chuck walks away saying, like that PTA meeting was okay,
Speaker 3: Well it wasn't very good. No, it's stunk. It was terrible. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that can be painful.
Speaker 5: And I made the mistake of bringing my camera.
Speaker 6: Started photography again a few years ago, and I got
Speaker 6: some good camera gear and took two good at pictures
Speaker 6: of that talent show. So now every time it's like
Speaker 6: you gonna are you gonna bring your camera, Chock like, uh, sure, Yeah,
Speaker 6: that means I'll stay for the whole thing and not
Speaker 6: leave that forms.
Speaker 2: Can't sneak out. That's that's pretty tough. Actually, I'm glad
Speaker 2: you brought that up though, because it, you know, it
Speaker 2: shows your curiosity about other things. Putting the show aside
Speaker 2: for a second, and knowing that you guys have been
Speaker 2: super successful with this, you find yourselves in a awesome
Speaker 2: life stage where you, you know, maybe have the opportunity
Speaker 2: to explore other paths of curiosity. What are you curious
Speaker 2: about right now? It sounds like, Chuck, for you, photography
Speaker 2: has been a new exploration, but curious to hear from
Speaker 2: each of you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, got back into that.
Speaker 6: I grew up taking pictures, you know, back in the
Speaker 6: old thirty five millimeter camera days, film camera days, obviously
Speaker 6: through my father because he was a photographer, lifelong photographer,
Speaker 6: and then I didn't touch a camera for probably twenty
Speaker 6: five or thirty years, maybe because I had a bad
Speaker 6: relationship with my father.
Speaker 5: I like doctor Freud would probably say that's the case.
Speaker 6: And I did get into it after he passed away,
Speaker 6: so I think that maybe something there may be something there.
Speaker 1: Wow, And are you you're printing out the film?
Speaker 5: Well no, no, no, this is now all digital. But I did.
Speaker 6: I did get a nice photo printer, and I'm like
Speaker 6: printing and framing stuff, and I'm making I do a
Speaker 6: lot of events and like vacations and friends and family events,
Speaker 6: and I'll make books for people because you can make
Speaker 6: books now, like hardcover, coffee table like professional quality books.
Speaker 6: So I make those and give them out to people,
Speaker 6: and it's just sort of a fun thing.
Speaker 2: That's such a great gift.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds great.
Speaker 5: Never see, well maybe you'll get Josh.
Speaker 3: I haven't gotten one either. No, Sorry, what am I
Speaker 3: when I I so I like to kind of turn
Speaker 3: off my brain when I'm not working. So I've gotten
Speaker 3: into gardening quite a bit. It still requires obviously some
Speaker 3: thought or else you just start digging up plants and
Speaker 3: forgetting to plant them or whatever. But one of the
Speaker 3: other things I've kind of gotten into is like house stuff,
Speaker 3: like house projects, because I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 3: So I'll figure out something I need to go do,
Speaker 3: like rewire something, and then I have to go research
Speaker 3: that and figure out how to do it. And it
Speaker 3: takes a lot of trial and error. I've lost some
Speaker 3: fingernails before getting shocked, and then I'll fig get it out,
Speaker 3: I'll get it done, and I'll know some new thing.
Speaker 3: So that's that's probably the thing that I've gotten into
Speaker 3: the most, is just figuring out how to do house
Speaker 3: up keep stuff that I didn't know how to do before.
Speaker 6: I want to point out though, that that probably has
Speaker 6: less to do with Josh's innate curiosity than not wanting
Speaker 6: to speak to a repair person.
Speaker 3: Right, they're hard to find.
Speaker 1: But Jerry, you also you also like did up your
Speaker 1: house previously, right, Like you know how to do a
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know we do higher. People do the
Speaker 4: big stuff, but I'm I'm comfortable doing small stuff Like
Speaker 4: I've I've replaced some lights. I've actually uh not just
Speaker 4: like lights, the actual light that's in the wall or
Speaker 4: the ceiling. Yeah, I'm not that accomplished, but I'm kind
Speaker 4: of like Josh, like I like to take that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff on. But I also have to be careful
Speaker 4: because I'll start like three or four projects and they'll
Speaker 4: all get close to done but not quite, and then
Speaker 4: I walk by them and I get mad about it
Speaker 4: because I haven't finished that I know I need to finish,
Speaker 4: and it's still sitting there, and.
Speaker 5: It's that's that used to be my cycle.
Speaker 6: Emily said, I was a member of the ninety percent club,
Speaker 6: so it sounds like you're in there too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm an in incredible enthusiast about starting things, like
Speaker 1: I have piles of books that are like yeah, you
Speaker 1: know yeah. So one of the questions I had also
Speaker 1: wanted to ask, was you seem like maybe as kids
Speaker 1: you got in trouble a little bit? Like was was
Speaker 1: curiosity ever a cause for that?
Speaker 5: I was a pretty good kid, So I think Josh
Speaker 5: was a was a delinquent.
Speaker 3: Well, a little bit, but I was mostly a good kid.
Speaker 3: But it is true I started smoking cigarettes at age fourteen,
Speaker 3: So that's that does automatically.
Speaker 2: This episode is brought to you by Hey.
Speaker 3: But I was smart about it. I I I. So
Speaker 3: I would smoke out in the woods at the edge
Speaker 3: of a golf course, and there was a water hazard,
Speaker 3: and that what it's called chuck water a pond, And
Speaker 3: so I had a bar of soap that I kept
Speaker 3: out in the woods. So after I smoked, I would
Speaker 3: go to this water hazard and wash my hands off
Speaker 3: with the soap and go home and just suspect no
Speaker 3: one knew a thing. But I'm sure I was coming
Speaker 3: and smelling like smoke, but no one said anything.
Speaker 5: You should have gotten.
Speaker 6: I want to envision fourteen year old Josh by the
Speaker 6: golf course with one of the Hunter S.
Speaker 5: Thompson cigarette holders. You don't have to wash your hands.
Speaker 3: I was more going for FDR okay.
Speaker 2: Right, knowing that you're still trying to learn as much
Speaker 2: as you can to do these these new episodes? Are
Speaker 2: there outside of your show? Are there other creators other
Speaker 2: you know, just other people that you've admired for a
Speaker 2: long time, either as a writer, or some other form
Speaker 2: of content creator that that you sort of see as
Speaker 2: your heroes in the space. Who do you like to
Speaker 2: learn from?
Speaker 6: I mean, if Josh likes to sort of turn his
Speaker 6: brain off after work, I turn my brain off when
Speaker 6: it comes to other podcasts because I exclusively listen to
Speaker 6: kind of dumb comedy shows. So I just I don't
Speaker 6: think I could listen to other sort of learning podcasts.
Speaker 6: That's when I'm on my dog walks. I just want
Speaker 6: to check out and laugh at, like, you know, the
Speaker 6: three or four comedy shows I listen to.
Speaker 2: I hear you.
Speaker 3: I get mine from a bunch of different sources, and
Speaker 3: it'll it's not necessarily podcasts. It's not necessarily on the web.
Speaker 3: It could be a book, it could be something I
Speaker 3: ran across in a movie, and then something will connect
Speaker 3: to something else. And that's kind of how I get
Speaker 3: my inspiration in my info. There's not like a single
Speaker 3: go to place that I go to to recharge my
Speaker 3: brain or anything like that. It's just kind of a
Speaker 3: little bits here or there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what about you, guys.
Speaker 3: The tables have turned, That's right.
Speaker 1: I think that you know, whenever I'm curious about something,
Speaker 1: I assigned a show out about it. I feel like
Speaker 1: that's been the joy or articles, right, that was the
Speaker 1: joy of mental floss was that, like anything we were
Speaker 1: curious about, we could get someone to research for us
Speaker 1: and bring back to us and tell us in a
Speaker 1: really fun and quick and engaging way. And that has
Speaker 1: been such a pleasure and luxury in my life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've sort of been in a kick recently of
Speaker 2: reading either historical fiction or works that are kind of
Speaker 2: adjacent to that. So there was a book that I
Speaker 2: probably one of my favorite books of the past decade
Speaker 2: or so that I revisited called Pachinko. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you guys have read it before, but it follows
Speaker 2: this family, this Korean family, early twentieth century, four or
Speaker 2: five generations. And there was an Apple show made from,
Speaker 2: you know, inspired by the book as well that ran
Speaker 2: a couple of seasons, and so been watching that at
Speaker 2: the same time. And I don't know, I feel like
Speaker 2: when you find really good historical fiction that feels like
Speaker 2: it can actually transport you to that time and place,
Speaker 2: and then you're obviously getting the entertainment of following whatever
Speaker 2: the story is there, but it just shed so much
Speaker 2: light on what that relationship between the Japanese and the
Speaker 2: Koreans were at the time and throughout most of the
Speaker 2: twentieth century. That's sort of been my latest kick in
Speaker 2: terms of trying to learn while also combining it with
Speaker 2: some good entertainment.
Speaker 1: Hey, listeners, do not go anywhere. We've got to pause
Speaker 1: for a quick break, but we'll be back with more
Speaker 1: part time genius very soon. I think, you know, one
Speaker 1: other thing but I never would have imagined had spurred
Speaker 1: my curiosity as much as it has is having kids
Speaker 1: and getting to see the world through their eyes and
Speaker 1: like what they get excited about. And I'm sure you know,
Speaker 1: Shuck and Jerry you see this too, but I find, like,
Speaker 1: you know, when they're excited about art and learning about
Speaker 1: artists and going to a museum or something, it's like
Speaker 1: joyous or like my son was only into anime for
Speaker 1: the longest time, and suddenly he watched a Spike Lee
Speaker 1: movie and was like, show me movies, And now we
Speaker 1: go to movies all the time, and like discovering, like
Speaker 1: what he sees in a movie, which is so different
Speaker 1: on what he hears from music, is like so different
Speaker 1: from what I hear, and it's really incredible.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I also found myself having to like, you can't
Speaker 6: take for granted that your kid knows about whatever, so
Speaker 6: sort of having to explain things to Ruby, but then
Speaker 6: realizing like, oh, I need to be able to explain this,
Speaker 6: Like we went to MoMA last week. We went to
Speaker 6: New York for Fall break, and you know, Andy Warhol's
Speaker 6: soup cans are on the wall, and she asked me
Speaker 6: about him, and so then I had an opportunity to say, like, oh,
Speaker 6: I said, well, that's Andy Warhol and he's very famous
Speaker 6: artist called pop art. And you know, Josh I kind
Speaker 6: of knew about this stuff anyway, but we did an
Speaker 6: episode on Andy Warhol. So it's like, man, I get
Speaker 6: to actually teach her something about why paintings of soup
Speaker 6: cans are cool and important or maybe not to someone else,
Speaker 6: you know, like she can make up her own mind
Speaker 6: about that kind of thing. And so, you know, my
Speaker 6: parents are both teachers. I never got to be a teacher,
Speaker 6: but I ended up being one through the show and
Speaker 6: through being a dad.
Speaker 3: You know, I just want to go on record as
Speaker 3: saying that I have a daughter too. She just happens
Speaker 3: to have four legs and is not allowed in the moment.
Speaker 1: Well, one of the questions we had on the list
Speaker 1: was whether you see the curiosity in your pop Josh do.
Speaker 3: I yes. As a matter of fact, she's very curious
Speaker 3: but also really smart and enthusiastic in a way that
Speaker 3: that is actually super infectious. Every morning she goes down
Speaker 3: to the park and we feed the squirrels, and in
Speaker 3: the park we go to, the squirrels are really really
Speaker 3: brave because everyone feeds them, and she's learned over the
Speaker 3: years to just hold still and they'll get within like
Speaker 3: a hair's breadth of her sometimes to get like the
Speaker 3: nuts that were throwing to them, and she just picked
Speaker 3: that up, like just learned it over time. But every
Speaker 3: single morning, we do this every morning, every single morning.
Speaker 3: When we tell her we're going downtown, she jumps around
Speaker 3: like it's the first time she's ever heard that. So
Speaker 3: she gets so excited every morning that it's super infectious.
Speaker 3: So yeah, she definitely affects things for me for sure,
Speaker 3: impacts my outlook. I love that I was silent.
Speaker 2: Huh No, it actually makes me remember like why we
Speaker 2: love listening to the show is like Josh is telling
Speaker 2: us a story about his pet and I'm like right
Speaker 2: in it, I'm like, yeah, yeah, tell me that, and
Speaker 2: then what happens to the squirrel, then the nuts and
Speaker 2: then but you know, but just to make sure before
Speaker 2: we let you go. You know, we started listening to
Speaker 2: you guys in the early days of when we were
Speaker 2: growing our little magazine, Mental Floss, and I was asking
Speaker 2: the question before about you know who and inspired you,
Speaker 2: and just wanted to take a minute to note that,
Speaker 2: like watching you guys for for this many years be
Speaker 2: curious multiple times and come up with such interesting episodes
Speaker 2: and such interesting topics, jumping from history to science to
Speaker 2: pop culture to all over the board. It's a joy
Speaker 2: watching people do that and love what they do and
Speaker 2: getting to learn from them day in and day out,
Speaker 2: and so just you know again, wanted to say thanks
Speaker 2: for being that inspiration not just for us, but for
Speaker 2: so many others, and that joy that you bring to others.
Speaker 2: Whatever the topic is, I would venture to guess that
Speaker 2: the majority of your listeners after they finish listening to it,
Speaker 2: even if it's a topic that's not like the most
Speaker 2: happy topic, my guess is they leave the episode happier
Speaker 2: than when they were. You know, started listening to the episode,
Speaker 2: So just wanted to take a minute to say thanks
Speaker 2: for what you do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, wow, thank you.
Speaker 5: Thanks man.
Speaker 6: I mean at the end of all this, maybe one
Speaker 6: day someone will say Josh and Chuck were curious two
Speaker 6: days a week, every Tuesday and Thursday, they were very,
Speaker 6: very curious, and every Wednesday they were a little bit
Speaker 6: curious with their short stuff.
Speaker 3: I think you listeners are still they're still saying to
Speaker 3: themselves like, wait a minute, they did an episode on
Speaker 3: cht GPT, but they've never used Chett. I'm sure there's
Speaker 3: some people still, you know. I do want to say, though,
Speaker 3: while you guys were being inspired by us, we were
Speaker 3: inspired by you as well. Like back in the day
Speaker 3: and still today, we draw from Mental Floss a source
Speaker 3: of recent time, not just for researching facts and getting
Speaker 3: answers like that, but also for inspiration too, because it's
Speaker 3: just always been such a great curious magazine but also
Speaker 3: presented in just such a great approachable way too. So
Speaker 3: I will always admire you too for having found that.
Speaker 6: It's funny how it all worked out because we were
Speaker 6: using you guys producing our show that you were listening to,
Speaker 6: and you know, now we're all colleagues and former colleagues
Speaker 6: and friends, and it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3: I love it all.
Speaker 1: That's so wonderful to hear. And I think part of
Speaker 1: what makes me so happy is like when I get
Speaker 1: to see how the community responds to your show. You know,
Speaker 1: I felt that with Mental Floss, where like people would
Speaker 1: write in or like be so excited to have this
Speaker 1: magazine on the coffee tables. And when I've seen your
Speaker 1: shows and the crowds that come out and people that
Speaker 1: are so excited just to be around you, it's it's
Speaker 1: really really joyous. And I also remember, you know, we
Speaker 1: were not in the House Stuff Works office, the old
Speaker 1: one anymore, but like people would send in extraordinary gifts,
Speaker 1: like that massive wooden puzzle that was there, like on
Speaker 1: a giant wheel. I don't know if you remember this,
Speaker 1: but it was just like there forever and no one
Speaker 1: could figure out how they lock it for the I mean,
Speaker 1: but like remember that the appreciation for just like opening
Speaker 1: people's minds to things that they could get excited about
Speaker 1: was just so fun to watch.
Speaker 6: I'm glad that Mystery saw Mangush because I always thought
Speaker 6: what made you happy was when you opened your eyes
Speaker 6: in the morning. I don't know that I've ever known
Speaker 6: more continuously sort of positive human.
Speaker 2: So yeah, when the tape stops rolling, Chuck right, you
Speaker 2: should you should be he is on the actual.
Speaker 3: Moment, Yeah, you throw your headphones and you're like you
Speaker 3: blew it spoty.
Speaker 5: On like Sean Penn in one battle after another. That's
Speaker 5: who he turns into.
Speaker 1: Well, we did just want to say thank you so
Speaker 1: much for being here and spending time with us. We
Speaker 1: know we're all super busy, but it's so fun to
Speaker 1: be chatting with you and just joyus to have you
Speaker 1: on the show for sure.
Speaker 5: Thanks for having us huge.
Speaker 4: Fans, huge fans personally and professionally.
Speaker 2: All Right, dudes, it was good to see you. Thanks
Speaker 2: for doing this with us.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: All right, Mango, that's a wrap for this week. Tell
Speaker 2: me how are you feeling.
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, we've been working on the series for
Speaker 1: a few months now, and it's just been kind of
Speaker 1: funny to spend so much time. I'm being curious about curiosity,
Speaker 1: Like I really pay attention now when I realize I'm
Speaker 1: curious about something because I know so much more about
Speaker 1: what's going on in my own brain and how that
Speaker 1: ties into history or philosophy science.
Speaker 3: It feels pretty amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the same, and you know that brings us
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