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Speaker 2: Guess what Will What's that Mango?

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Speaker 1: So it is day five, the grand finale of our

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Speaker 1: week long series about curiosity, and I can think of

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Speaker 1: no better way to celebrate than by talking with two

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Speaker 1: of the most curious people we know.

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Speaker 2: Two of the most curious people we know who aren't our.

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Speaker 1: Kids, definitely not our kids. They are the brilliant podcasters

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Speaker 1: Josh Clark and Chuck Bryan aka Josh and Chuck, the

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Speaker 1: host of Stuff.

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Speaker 3: You should know.

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Speaker 1: We've known these guys for such a long time now,

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Speaker 1: so we decided to call them up and see if

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Speaker 1: they'd come on our show and talk about what it's

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Speaker 1: like to be curious for a living, how we all

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Speaker 1: got to be so curious, if curiosity has ever gotten

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Speaker 1: us in trouble, and so much more. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be so much fun. And before I say let's dive in,

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Speaker 1: I should mention that at the end of the episode,

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Speaker 1: we'll tell you about today's listener activity, which is your

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Speaker 2: It's pretty exciting. You definitely don't want to miss that.

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Speaker 2: All right, mego go ahead and say it.

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Speaker 3: Let's dive in.

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Speaker 2: Hey, their podcast listeners, Welcome to Part Time Genius. I'm

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Speaker 2: Will Pearson and as always I'm joined by my good

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Speaker 2: friend Mangesh Hot Ticketer and sitting behind that big glass booth,

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Speaker 2: that's our wonderful pal Dylan fag And you all know

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Speaker 2: Dylan you're always looking forward to what he's up to today.

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Speaker 2: You'll never believe it. Dylan is waving a poster he

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Speaker 2: made and it says, I'm so glad I'm not the

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Speaker 2: only producer here today that has to listen to Will

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Speaker 2: and Mango's bad jokes. It's good to see you, Dylan.

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Speaker 1: He is right, because we have super producer Jerry Roland

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Speaker 1: in the booth with us today, and we've also got

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Speaker 1: the star talent that she wrangles regularly, Chuck and Josh

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Speaker 1: chatting with us. We're so excited and Chuck and Joshua's

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Speaker 1: so good to have you here.

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Speaker 3: Hi guys, Hello dudes, thank you for having us.

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Speaker 1: We're so excited to have you. But before we start,

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Speaker 1: and since we are grace with Jerry's presence, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to ask Jerry some questions about the two of you,

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Speaker 1: or Will and I Wilba both ask questions about the

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Speaker 1: two of you. So, Jerry, Today's thing is all about curiosity.

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Speaker 1: We're doing this whole series on curiosity. Obviously, we've got

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Speaker 1: two very curious people here. But do you notice anything

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Speaker 1: specific about Chuck and Josh's curiosity, Like you ever see

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Speaker 1: them being curious outside the office? Do you see them

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Speaker 1: being curious on tape? Like, tell me a little bit

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Speaker 1: about what you think of the two of them.

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Speaker 4: I know it's it's funny, like in the context of

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Speaker 4: stuff you should know. I feel like we still have

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Speaker 4: conversations leading up to a recording or even after we

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Speaker 4: stop a recording where we're like, oh my god, that

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Speaker 4: was did you hear about this? Did you hear about that?

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Speaker 4: So I feel like that curiosity is kind of inherent

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Speaker 4: and always there. Outside of that, I see Chuck every

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Speaker 4: knows that our daughters go to school together. So luckily,

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Speaker 4: you know, other than that, I wouldn't ever see Chuck

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Speaker 4: in the real world. But we've known each other for

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Speaker 4: so long, and we've kind of had this parallel path

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Speaker 4: for so long that when we're curious about something that's

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Speaker 4: of realm of like I wonder why my knees stopped working, right,

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Speaker 4: I wonder if this ever stops?

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Speaker 5: Or is this it?

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Speaker 3: You know? What's the A?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what's that?

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Speaker 2: Which is the episode that come out next week? That's

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Speaker 2: going to be That's be great now I'm about it, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: One of the things we've been talking about recently is

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Speaker 2: for curious people, they're routines, their superstitions, and obviously for

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Speaker 2: a show that's been successful for so long, Jerry curious,

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Speaker 2: if you can take us behind the scenes, are there

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Speaker 4: time ago, so I guess I guess it's fine that

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Speaker 1: For someone who is not as good without a script

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Speaker 1: amazing to watch you at work. We do, like Jerry said, though,

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Speaker 1: we save it, like we actually tell one another this

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Speaker 1: M hm. Is there anything that makes you feel particularly

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Speaker 1: is there anything that gets you excited to tape?

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Speaker 4: Mmmm?

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Speaker 5: Chuck here, I do I need to say that?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 6: Every time we're so used to doing that and stuff

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Speaker 6: And I continue to do that on my work days

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Speaker 3: I did the exact opposite of that, where I can

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Speaker 4: is the sun going up or down?

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Speaker 3: For sharing that year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew you were just really dying to ask.

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Speaker 2: would they have seen this coming? Would they have been like, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Let's let's maybe Josh will start with you. You want

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Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, I would say, this is Josh, I would

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Speaker 3: say probably not. Actually I was never like a really

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Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure what happened, but it was like

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Speaker 3: under nineteen, then take hope.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or start a podcast. Yeah, now that's terrific, Chuck,

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Speaker 2: how about you?

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Speaker 5: I was sort of curious.

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Speaker 6: I mean I was an AB student most probably a

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Speaker 5: But I also was you know, wasn't the kid who sat.

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Speaker 1: One of these things we're doing for Kaleidoscope is trying

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Speaker 1: And I was curious, like, is there a moment for

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Speaker 6: I'll jump in because I recently found a box of

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Speaker 6: old school work of mine from elementary school, and I

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Speaker 6: did not remember how obsessed with NASA and space travel

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Speaker 6: I'm still like super super into. Josh's more into that

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Speaker 1: I mean there was so much romance around it, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Way, Yeah, totally, So that'd probably be it for me.

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Speaker 6: Science and then just camping in the natural world again.

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Speaker 2: sense of that. Like, you guys are doing the heavy lifting.

442
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Speaker 2: You guys are navigating all of the nonsense that's out there,

443
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 2: but also a lot of the great information that's out there,

444
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 2: and so your job is to try to sort of

445
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 2: cut through that and get to the interesting stuff. I'm

446
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 2: sure it's gotten more challenging, but it's I guess it's

447
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 2: the challenge that you guys take on.

448
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know you want to hear something about me, guys.

449
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 2: I do state your name first, though.

450
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 5: This is Chuck.

451
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 6: And I'm not doing it because I'm taking some big

452
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Speaker 6: like moral ethical stand or anything.

453
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 5: I think.

454
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 6: I'm not doing it because I'm just some old gen

455
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 6: exer that doesn't want to roll with things. But I

456
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 6: have never I wouldn't know how to use AI, Like

457
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 6: I wouldn't know if someone said, hey, use AI to

458
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 6: do whatever, I would.

459
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 5: Know how to do that.

460
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 6: I would have to look up like do you have

461
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Speaker 6: to go to a website and sign up for a

462
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Speaker 6: thing and then enter a question like That's how sort

463
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 6: of in the dark about all of that stuff I

464
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 6: am right now because.

465
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Speaker 5: I just I don't feel like I I don't know.

466
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 5: I don't feel like I need it.

467
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Speaker 6: Like everything is going fine for me as far as

468
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Speaker 6: how I do my job and get my work done,

469
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 6: So I don't need it as a tool. But I

470
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Speaker 6: wouldn't even know how to go about starting that kind

471
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Speaker 6: of thing.

472
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Speaker 3: It's pretty easy, Chuck, You just go out into your

473
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 3: yard and yell it. I feel like though, that's gen

474
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 3: x is, that's like the technology right there where like

475
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 3: the generation before. So I guess the Boomers if they

476
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 3: didn't pick up on the internet, yeah, they got left behind,

477
00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,959
Speaker 3: and a lot of them did. Like my dad does

478
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 3: not use email. He doesn't text, and it's so maddening.

479
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 3: It's like you have to pick up the phone and

480
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 3: call him and you have a conversation and you can't

481
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 3: just ask a question, you know, but he doesn't care.

482
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 3: But he he would have no idea how to send

483
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 3: an email now right that like us right now, Chuck me, Jerry,

484
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 3: you guys, if we don't learn that, we're gonna get

485
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 3: left behind. That maybe, okay, that's not the end of

486
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Speaker 3: the world. I don't think AI will bring about the

487
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 3: end of the world, but us not learning to use

488
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 3: like chat GPT won't bring about the end of the world,

489
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 3: I think, but it is we are at that point

490
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Speaker 3: I feel like right now and I don't I should

491
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Speaker 3: say I don't know. I don't know how to use

492
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Speaker 3: it either.

493
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Speaker 2: Do you think you guys will do an episode on

494
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Speaker 2: how chat GPT works?

495
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Speaker 3: We did?

496
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we did, you did, and without using it?

497
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Speaker 3: We did, right, that's what we do. Well, it's very

498
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 3: much in step. We we did an episode on it. No,

499
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: we didn't use it. But one of the the key

500
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 3: components of that episode, if I remember correctly, Chuck, was

501
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 3: we were just a gog that this had arrived, yeah,

502
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 3: and that we were both kind of like it's starting

503
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 3: I can't believe it, but it is starting right now,

504
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 3: and I think that's true.

505
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

506
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, So in a completely different vein. Well, I have

507
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: two questions and they're completely unrelated. What one is is

508
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Speaker 1: just because I'm curious. I know, Josh, you said used

509
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: to hate your voice, and then someone told you sounded

510
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: like a muppet, and then you started loving your voice.

511
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Speaker 1: I'm curious. I always wanted to be a Fozzy Bear,

512
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,959
Speaker 1: but I think I'm actually a Kermit. I'm curious, are

513
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: are you a specific muppet? And does anyone else have

514
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: a spirit animal Muppet on this line.

515
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Speaker 2: I did not see that question coming. Segue speaking of Ai,

516
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 2: which Muppet are you?

517
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Speaker 6: Wow, it's a tough one because it's like, which Muppet

518
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 6: do you aspire to be? Which one do you probably

519
00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 6: most realistically identify with. It's probably easier to assign that

520
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 6: to Josh and Jerry than it is myself.

521
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 3: Thank you for that.

522
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you can also answer that way you can,

523
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 2: you can give them Muppet names.

524
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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I aspire to be a cool, like

525
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 6: rock and roll guy, so I would want to be

526
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 6: in the Electric Mayhem.

527
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Speaker 3: Oh nice, that's a good call. Any of them, I

528
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 3: would go, Chuck, I would put you down as I

529
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 3: don't know that you'd be a cross between Doctor Teeth

530
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 3: and the sax Player, right.

531
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that.

532
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 3: I like you, Josh.

533
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 5: Josh is kind of Kermity.

534
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 3: I've always yeah, I mean, I definitely if I do

535
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 3: resemble a Muppet, is Kermit for sure? That's just vocally.

536
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 3: I've never really identified with Kermit much like watching him

537
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 3: on screen, but I've never been like that's my soul mate. Yeah,

538
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: I've always loved Grover as a kid. I thought Grover

539
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: was great he was my favorite. Yeah, but when I

540
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: look down in my arms and think of a Muppet,

541
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 3: I see red. So maybe I guess Elmo Elmo. But

542
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: I hate being tickled. That's the weird.

543
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 2: You have my word, Josh, I will never tickle you.

544
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: All right, I'm going to hold you to that.

545
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm thinking about these guys, and I've never

546
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 4: ever thought about this before, but if I had to assign,

547
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 4: I might assign Josh Fazzi Beer.

548
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 3: I'll take that. I can see that.

549
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, Chuck, you have this baritone voice, and I

550
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 4: can't if we're talking vocally, I can't really think of anybody.

551
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 4: But the first visual I had was one of the

552
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 4: little old guys up in the in the yeah balcony. Yeah,

553
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 4: that's basically you guys. And I might be more of

554
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 4: like a beaker. Like I don't talk a lot, but

555
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 4: I'm kind of running around a little anxious and out

556
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 4: of sort.

557
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

558
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: One of the guys names in the Statler and Walter.

559
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a bit off mic. I'm a bit more

560
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 6: of a heer mudgeon. I don't present like that on

561
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 6: the show, but in real I r L. I'm probably

562
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 6: more like those guys.

563
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 5: Now that I think about.

564
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 4: It, Yeah, I can tell you when it comes to

565
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 4: like school functions, it brings out the school function.

566
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 5: God, there's just too many guys.

567
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 3: Chuck walks away saying, like that PTA meeting was okay,

568
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 3: Well it wasn't very good. No, it's stunk. It was terrible. Yeah,

569
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: that can be painful.

570
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 5: And I made the mistake of bringing my camera.

571
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 6: Started photography again a few years ago, and I got

572
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 6: some good camera gear and took two good at pictures

573
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 6: of that talent show. So now every time it's like

574
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Speaker 6: you gonna are you gonna bring your camera, Chock like, uh, sure, Yeah,

575
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 6: that means I'll stay for the whole thing and not

576
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Speaker 6: leave that forms.

577
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: Can't sneak out. That's that's pretty tough. Actually, I'm glad

578
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 2: you brought that up though, because it, you know, it

579
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: shows your curiosity about other things. Putting the show aside

580
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: for a second, and knowing that you guys have been

581
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: super successful with this, you find yourselves in a awesome

582
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: life stage where you, you know, maybe have the opportunity

583
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: to explore other paths of curiosity. What are you curious

584
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: about right now? It sounds like, Chuck, for you, photography

585
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 2: has been a new exploration, but curious to hear from

586
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: each of you.

587
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, got back into that.

588
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 6: I grew up taking pictures, you know, back in the

589
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 6: old thirty five millimeter camera days, film camera days, obviously

590
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 6: through my father because he was a photographer, lifelong photographer,

591
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 6: and then I didn't touch a camera for probably twenty

592
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 6: five or thirty years, maybe because I had a bad

593
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 6: relationship with my father.

594
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 5: I like doctor Freud would probably say that's the case.

595
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 6: And I did get into it after he passed away,

596
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 6: so I think that maybe something there may be something there.

597
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: Wow, And are you you're printing out the film?

598
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 5: Well no, no, no, this is now all digital. But I did.

599
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 6: I did get a nice photo printer, and I'm like

600
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 6: printing and framing stuff, and I'm making I do a

601
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 6: lot of events and like vacations and friends and family events,

602
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,239
Speaker 6: and I'll make books for people because you can make

603
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 6: books now, like hardcover, coffee table like professional quality books.

604
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 6: So I make those and give them out to people,

605
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 6: and it's just sort of a fun thing.

606
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: That's such a great gift.

607
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds great.

608
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 5: Never see, well maybe you'll get Josh.

609
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: I haven't gotten one either. No, Sorry, what am I

610
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: when I I so I like to kind of turn

611
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: off my brain when I'm not working. So I've gotten

612
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: into gardening quite a bit. It still requires obviously some

613
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: thought or else you just start digging up plants and

614
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: forgetting to plant them or whatever. But one of the

615
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: other things I've kind of gotten into is like house stuff,

616
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: like house projects, because I don't know anything about it.

617
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 3: So I'll figure out something I need to go do,

618
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: like rewire something, and then I have to go research

619
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: that and figure out how to do it. And it

620
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: takes a lot of trial and error. I've lost some

621
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: fingernails before getting shocked, and then I'll fig get it out,

622
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: I'll get it done, and I'll know some new thing.

623
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 3: So that's that's probably the thing that I've gotten into

624
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 3: the most, is just figuring out how to do house

625
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 3: up keep stuff that I didn't know how to do before.

626
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 6: I want to point out though, that that probably has

627
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 6: less to do with Josh's innate curiosity than not wanting

628
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 6: to speak to a repair person.

629
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: Right, they're hard to find.

630
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: But Jerry, you also you also like did up your

631
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: house previously, right, Like you know how to do a

632
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff.

633
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 4: I mean, you know we do higher. People do the

634
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 4: big stuff, but I'm I'm comfortable doing small stuff Like

635
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 4: I've I've replaced some lights. I've actually uh not just

636
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 4: like lights, the actual light that's in the wall or

637
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 4: the ceiling. Yeah, I'm not that accomplished, but I'm kind

638
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: of like Josh, like I like to take that kind

639
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 4: of stuff on. But I also have to be careful

640
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 4: because I'll start like three or four projects and they'll

641
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 4: all get close to done but not quite, and then

642
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 4: I walk by them and I get mad about it

643
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 4: because I haven't finished that I know I need to finish,

644
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 4: and it's still sitting there, and.

645
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 5: It's that's that used to be my cycle.

646
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 6: Emily said, I was a member of the ninety percent club,

647
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 6: so it sounds like you're in there too.

648
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm an in incredible enthusiast about starting things, like

649
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: I have piles of books that are like yeah, you

650
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: know yeah. So one of the questions I had also

651
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: wanted to ask, was you seem like maybe as kids

652
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: you got in trouble a little bit? Like was was

653
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: curiosity ever a cause for that?

654
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 5: I was a pretty good kid, So I think Josh

655
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 5: was a was a delinquent.

656
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: Well, a little bit, but I was mostly a good kid.

657
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 3: But it is true I started smoking cigarettes at age fourteen,

658
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 3: So that's that does automatically.

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Speaker 3: But I was smart about it. I I I. So

661
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Speaker 3: I would smoke out in the woods at the edge

662
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Speaker 3: of a golf course, and there was a water hazard,

663
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Speaker 3: and that what it's called chuck water a pond, And

664
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Speaker 3: so I had a bar of soap that I kept

665
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Speaker 3: out in the woods. So after I smoked, I would

666
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Speaker 3: go to this water hazard and wash my hands off

667
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Speaker 3: with the soap and go home and just suspect no

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Speaker 3: one knew a thing. But I'm sure I was coming

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Speaker 3: and smelling like smoke, but no one said anything.

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Speaker 5: You should have gotten.

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Speaker 6: I want to envision fourteen year old Josh by the

672
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Speaker 6: golf course with one of the Hunter S.

673
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Speaker 5: Thompson cigarette holders. You don't have to wash your hands.

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Speaker 3: I was more going for FDR okay.

675
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Speaker 2: Right, knowing that you're still trying to learn as much

676
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Speaker 2: as you can to do these these new episodes? Are

677
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Speaker 2: there outside of your show? Are there other creators other

678
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Speaker 2: you know, just other people that you've admired for a

679
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: long time, either as a writer, or some other form

680
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: of content creator that that you sort of see as

681
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Speaker 2: your heroes in the space. Who do you like to

682
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Speaker 2: learn from?

683
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Speaker 6: I mean, if Josh likes to sort of turn his

684
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 6: brain off after work, I turn my brain off when

685
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 6: it comes to other podcasts because I exclusively listen to

686
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 6: kind of dumb comedy shows. So I just I don't

687
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 6: think I could listen to other sort of learning podcasts.

688
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 6: That's when I'm on my dog walks. I just want

689
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 6: to check out and laugh at, like, you know, the

690
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 6: three or four comedy shows I listen to.

691
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Speaker 2: I hear you.

692
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Speaker 3: I get mine from a bunch of different sources, and

693
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 3: it'll it's not necessarily podcasts. It's not necessarily on the web.

694
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 3: It could be a book, it could be something I

695
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: ran across in a movie, and then something will connect

696
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 3: to something else. And that's kind of how I get

697
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Speaker 3: my inspiration in my info. There's not like a single

698
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Speaker 3: go to place that I go to to recharge my

699
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Speaker 3: brain or anything like that. It's just kind of a

700
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Speaker 3: little bits here or there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what about you, guys.

702
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Speaker 3: The tables have turned, That's right.

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Speaker 1: I think that you know, whenever I'm curious about something,

704
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: I assigned a show out about it. I feel like

705
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: that's been the joy or articles, right, that was the

706
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: joy of mental floss was that, like anything we were

707
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: curious about, we could get someone to research for us

708
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: and bring back to us and tell us in a

709
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: really fun and quick and engaging way. And that has

710
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Speaker 1: been such a pleasure and luxury in my life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've sort of been in a kick recently of

712
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: reading either historical fiction or works that are kind of

713
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: adjacent to that. So there was a book that I

714
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: probably one of my favorite books of the past decade

715
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: or so that I revisited called Pachinko. I don't know

716
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 2: if you guys have read it before, but it follows

717
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Speaker 2: this family, this Korean family, early twentieth century, four or

718
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 2: five generations. And there was an Apple show made from,

719
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: you know, inspired by the book as well that ran

720
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Speaker 2: a couple of seasons, and so been watching that at

721
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Speaker 2: the same time. And I don't know, I feel like

722
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Speaker 2: when you find really good historical fiction that feels like

723
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Speaker 2: it can actually transport you to that time and place,

724
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Speaker 2: and then you're obviously getting the entertainment of following whatever

725
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 2: the story is there, but it just shed so much

726
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: light on what that relationship between the Japanese and the

727
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: Koreans were at the time and throughout most of the

728
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Speaker 2: twentieth century. That's sort of been my latest kick in

729
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Speaker 2: terms of trying to learn while also combining it with

730
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Speaker 2: some good entertainment.

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Speaker 1: Hey, listeners, do not go anywhere. We've got to pause

732
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Speaker 1: for a quick break, but we'll be back with more

733
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Speaker 1: part time genius very soon. I think, you know, one

734
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Speaker 1: other thing but I never would have imagined had spurred

735
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Speaker 1: my curiosity as much as it has is having kids

736
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Speaker 1: and getting to see the world through their eyes and

737
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Speaker 1: like what they get excited about. And I'm sure you know,

738
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Speaker 1: Shuck and Jerry you see this too, but I find, like,

739
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Speaker 1: you know, when they're excited about art and learning about

740
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Speaker 1: artists and going to a museum or something, it's like

741
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Speaker 1: joyous or like my son was only into anime for

742
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Speaker 1: the longest time, and suddenly he watched a Spike Lee

743
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: movie and was like, show me movies, And now we

744
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: go to movies all the time, and like discovering, like

745
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Speaker 1: what he sees in a movie, which is so different

746
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Speaker 1: on what he hears from music, is like so different

747
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Speaker 1: from what I hear, and it's really incredible.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I also found myself having to like, you can't

750
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Speaker 6: take for granted that your kid knows about whatever, so

751
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 6: sort of having to explain things to Ruby, but then

752
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 6: realizing like, oh, I need to be able to explain this,

753
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Speaker 6: Like we went to MoMA last week. We went to

754
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Speaker 6: New York for Fall break, and you know, Andy Warhol's

755
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 6: soup cans are on the wall, and she asked me

756
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Speaker 6: about him, and so then I had an opportunity to say, like, oh,

757
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 6: I said, well, that's Andy Warhol and he's very famous

758
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 6: artist called pop art. And you know, Josh I kind

759
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 6: of knew about this stuff anyway, but we did an

760
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 6: episode on Andy Warhol. So it's like, man, I get

761
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 6: to actually teach her something about why paintings of soup

762
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 6: cans are cool and important or maybe not to someone else,

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Speaker 6: you know, like she can make up her own mind

764
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Speaker 6: about that kind of thing. And so, you know, my

765
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 6: parents are both teachers. I never got to be a teacher,

766
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Speaker 6: but I ended up being one through the show and

767
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 6: through being a dad.

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Speaker 3: You know, I just want to go on record as

769
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Speaker 3: saying that I have a daughter too. She just happens

770
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Speaker 3: to have four legs and is not allowed in the moment.

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Speaker 1: Well, one of the questions we had on the list

772
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Speaker 1: was whether you see the curiosity in your pop Josh do.

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Speaker 3: I yes. As a matter of fact, she's very curious

774
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: but also really smart and enthusiastic in a way that

775
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Speaker 3: that is actually super infectious. Every morning she goes down

776
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Speaker 3: to the park and we feed the squirrels, and in

777
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Speaker 3: the park we go to, the squirrels are really really

778
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Speaker 3: brave because everyone feeds them, and she's learned over the

779
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Speaker 3: years to just hold still and they'll get within like

780
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Speaker 3: a hair's breadth of her sometimes to get like the

781
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 3: nuts that were throwing to them, and she just picked

782
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 3: that up, like just learned it over time. But every

783
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Speaker 3: single morning, we do this every morning, every single morning.

784
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Speaker 3: When we tell her we're going downtown, she jumps around

785
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 3: like it's the first time she's ever heard that. So

786
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: she gets so excited every morning that it's super infectious.

787
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Speaker 3: So yeah, she definitely affects things for me for sure,

788
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 3: impacts my outlook. I love that I was silent.

789
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Speaker 2: Huh No, it actually makes me remember like why we

790
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: love listening to the show is like Josh is telling

791
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 2: us a story about his pet and I'm like right

792
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: in it, I'm like, yeah, yeah, tell me that, and

793
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 2: then what happens to the squirrel, then the nuts and

794
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 2: then but you know, but just to make sure before

795
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: we let you go. You know, we started listening to

796
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 2: you guys in the early days of when we were

797
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: growing our little magazine, Mental Floss, and I was asking

798
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Speaker 2: the question before about you know who and inspired you,

799
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Speaker 2: and just wanted to take a minute to note that,

800
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: like watching you guys for for this many years be

801
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: curious multiple times and come up with such interesting episodes

802
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: and such interesting topics, jumping from history to science to

803
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 2: pop culture to all over the board. It's a joy

804
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: watching people do that and love what they do and

805
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 2: getting to learn from them day in and day out,

806
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: and so just you know again, wanted to say thanks

807
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: for being that inspiration not just for us, but for

808
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 2: so many others, and that joy that you bring to others.

809
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 2: Whatever the topic is, I would venture to guess that

810
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: the majority of your listeners after they finish listening to it,

811
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 2: even if it's a topic that's not like the most

812
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: happy topic, my guess is they leave the episode happier

813
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 2: than when they were. You know, started listening to the episode,

814
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: So just wanted to take a minute to say thanks

815
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: for what you do.

816
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, wow, thank you.

817
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Speaker 5: Thanks man.

818
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 6: I mean at the end of all this, maybe one

819
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 6: day someone will say Josh and Chuck were curious two

820
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 6: days a week, every Tuesday and Thursday, they were very,

821
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 6: very curious, and every Wednesday they were a little bit

822
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 6: curious with their short stuff.

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Speaker 3: I think you listeners are still they're still saying to

824
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 3: themselves like, wait a minute, they did an episode on

825
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: cht GPT, but they've never used Chett. I'm sure there's

826
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 3: some people still, you know. I do want to say, though,

827
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: while you guys were being inspired by us, we were

828
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 3: inspired by you as well. Like back in the day

829
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 3: and still today, we draw from Mental Floss a source

830
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: of recent time, not just for researching facts and getting

831
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 3: answers like that, but also for inspiration too, because it's

832
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 3: just always been such a great curious magazine but also

833
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 3: presented in just such a great approachable way too. So

834
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Speaker 3: I will always admire you too for having found that.

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Speaker 6: It's funny how it all worked out because we were

836
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 6: using you guys producing our show that you were listening to,

837
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 6: and you know, now we're all colleagues and former colleagues

838
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 6: and friends, and it's pretty cool.

839
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Speaker 3: I love it all.

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Speaker 1: That's so wonderful to hear. And I think part of

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Speaker 1: what makes me so happy is like when I get

842
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: to see how the community responds to your show. You know,

843
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: I felt that with Mental Floss, where like people would

844
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: write in or like be so excited to have this

845
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: magazine on the coffee tables. And when I've seen your

846
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: shows and the crowds that come out and people that

847
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: are so excited just to be around you, it's it's

848
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: really really joyous. And I also remember, you know, we

849
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: were not in the House Stuff Works office, the old

850
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: one anymore, but like people would send in extraordinary gifts,

851
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: like that massive wooden puzzle that was there, like on

852
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: a giant wheel. I don't know if you remember this,

853
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: but it was just like there forever and no one

854
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: could figure out how they lock it for the I mean,

855
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: but like remember that the appreciation for just like opening

856
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: people's minds to things that they could get excited about

857
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: was just so fun to watch.

858
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Speaker 6: I'm glad that Mystery saw Mangush because I always thought

859
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 6: what made you happy was when you opened your eyes

860
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 6: in the morning. I don't know that I've ever known

861
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 6: more continuously sort of positive human.

862
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: So yeah, when the tape stops rolling, Chuck right, you

863
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: should you should be he is on the actual.

864
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Speaker 3: Moment, Yeah, you throw your headphones and you're like you

865
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 3: blew it spoty.

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Speaker 5: On like Sean Penn in one battle after another. That's

867
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Speaker 5: who he turns into.

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Speaker 1: Well, we did just want to say thank you so

869
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Speaker 1: much for being here and spending time with us. We

870
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: know we're all super busy, but it's so fun to

871
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: be chatting with you and just joyus to have you

872
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: on the show for sure.

873
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Speaker 5: Thanks for having us huge.

874
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 4: Fans, huge fans personally and professionally.

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Speaker 2: All Right, dudes, it was good to see you. Thanks

876
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: for doing this with us.

877
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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: All right, Mango, that's a wrap for this week. Tell

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Speaker 2: me how are you feeling.

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, we've been working on the series for

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Speaker 1: a few months now, and it's just been kind of

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Speaker 1: funny to spend so much time. I'm being curious about curiosity,

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Speaker 1: Like I really pay attention now when I realize I'm

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Speaker 1: curious about something because I know so much more about

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Speaker 1: what's going on in my own brain and how that

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Speaker 1: ties into history or philosophy science.

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Speaker 3: It feels pretty amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the same, and you know that brings us

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Speaker 2: to today's listener activity. So it's very simple. We want

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Speaker 2: to know your favorite fact that you learn from us

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Speaker 2: in this week's episodes, So just leave us a comment

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Speaker 2: on our Instagram or Blue Sky and you'll be entered

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Speaker 2: to win a part Time Genius prize pack. Now, if

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Speaker 2: you want an extra entry, make a video telling us

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Speaker 2: about your favorite fact, upload it and tag us. The

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Speaker 2: deadline is Sunday, October twenty sixth, and all the details

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Speaker 2: and links are in the show notes and on our

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Speaker 2: social accounts. Again, we're on Instagram and Blue Sky at

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Speaker 2: part Time Genius.

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Speaker 1: That's right, and remember you still have time to participate

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Speaker 1: in all the listener activities for this week. You can

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Speaker 1: go back to our social feeds and find them, and

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Speaker 1: you have until Sunday to do it.

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Speaker 3: So go do it.

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Speaker 1: And thanks to everyone who's entered so far. We have

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Speaker 1: really really enjoyed seeing your posts and comments. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: before we go, we want to thank Josh and Chuck

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Speaker 1: for hanging out with us today. Be sure to follow

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Speaker 1: their show stuff. You should know wherever you get your podcasts,

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Speaker 1: and we will be back next week with some slightly

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Speaker 1: spooky Halloween episodes. Not too spooky, though, no a very

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Speaker 1: manageable level of spooky, so be sure to join us

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Speaker 1: for that and in the meantime, From Will, Dylan, Gabe, Mary,

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Speaker 1: and myself, thank you so much for listening. Part Time

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Speaker 1: Genius is the production of Kaleidoscope and iHeartRadio. This show

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Speaker 1: is hosted by Will Pearson and me Mongagehatikler, and research

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Speaker 1: by our good pal Mary Philip Sandy. Today's episode was

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Speaker 1: engineered and produced by the wonderful Dylan Fagan with support

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Speaker 1: from Tyler Klang.

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Speaker 3: The show is.

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Speaker 1: Executive produced for iHeart by Katrina Norvell and Ali Perry,

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Speaker 1: with social media support from Sasha Gay, Trustee Dara Potts

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Speaker 1: and Viney Shore. For more podcasts from Kaleidoscope and iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen

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Speaker 1: to your favorite shows.