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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to the show, fellow Ridiculous historians.

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Speaker 1: As we remarked earlier, our crew is on the road

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Speaker 1: right now. We wanted to share some classic episodes with you.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to our super producer, mister Max Williams. Also,

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Speaker 1: you're Noel, I've been. We've both been to weddings. As

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Speaker 1: a matter of fact, dude, both of us are going

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Speaker 1: to friends' weddings later this year. It's true. Friends do

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Speaker 1: occasionally get married, sometimes to each other. That's always tripping.

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Speaker 1: It happens, but it is an ancient tradition, as we know,

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Speaker 1: and oftentimes ancient traditions carry with them ritualistic behavior and

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Speaker 1: not necessarily like blood sacrifices, although you know, certainly, certainly

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Speaker 1: the wedding is in and of itself a sort of

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Speaker 1: psychological blood sacrifice. No weddings are great. Everyone should be

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Speaker 1: in love. I love that for all of you married

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Speaker 1: couples out there. But there are some weird wedding traditions,

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Speaker 1: some you may be, you know, intimately familiar with, like

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Speaker 1: the old throwing of the bouquet, and that weird one

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Speaker 1: with the garter. Never fully understood that one. We may

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Speaker 1: discuss some of those in this episode was specifically, I

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Speaker 1: think we've all sort of looked askance a bit at

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Speaker 1: that tradition of smashing cake into each other's faces at weddings. Yeah, man, Like, okay,

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Speaker 1: so full disclosure. I've officiated a number of weddings and

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Speaker 1: the cake thing stood out to both of us because again,

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Speaker 1: we actually Noel and I actually hang out on the

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Speaker 1: regular pretty often and we have these moments where one

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Speaker 1: of us says, you know, what's the deal with that?

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Speaker 1: And then I know, man, when we make eye contact

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Speaker 1: and we have like the silent nod. We want to

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Speaker 1: figure it out. So back in twenty seventeen, Noel and

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Speaker 1: Casey and now Max you're part of this, bro, we

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Speaker 1: asked ourselves, why do people smash cake on each other's

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Speaker 1: faces during weddings? Yeah? Why? Indeed, we're gonna find that

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Speaker 1: out together. Here it goes ridiculous. History is a production

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Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio. Welcome to the show, Friends and neighbors, ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen. And you know what that music means. I'm Ben,

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Speaker 1: I'm Nolan. Apparently it's a nice day for a white wedding. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: as we speak, given the just the raw numbers, odds

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Speaker 1: are that there are thousands of couples getting married today,

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Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands, even, it's very true. It is a

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Speaker 1: popular pastime. And of course we are joined by our

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Speaker 1: super producer, Casey Pegram here and today we are looking

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Speaker 1: at one of the world's most universal traditions, the tradition

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Speaker 1: of matrimony. I like to call it nuptials. Nuptials is

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Speaker 1: cool too, it just sounds cute. And we know whether

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Speaker 1: or not you have been married, or whether or not

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Speaker 1: you've actually been to a wedding. It's impossible not to

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Speaker 1: know a little bit about it because it's such a

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Speaker 1: fundamental part of so much fiction. It's in so many films,

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Speaker 1: not just rom comms, yeah, but definitely in rom coms. Definitely,

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Speaker 1: definitely big in romcoms. So everybody is aware on some

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Speaker 1: level of the basic idea that typically it's going to

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Speaker 1: be two people who decide that they're going to in

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Speaker 1: front of members of their society and in the eyes

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Speaker 1: of the law usually as well, and the Lord and

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Speaker 1: the Lord right, whatever lord that may be. Precisely, they're

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Speaker 1: going to be an official item till death do they part,

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Speaker 1: unless it's a shotgun wedding, unless it's a shotgun wedding,

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Speaker 1: in which case you're sort of out of luck. You

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Speaker 1: have to bite the bullet daddy's bullet. So at some

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Speaker 1: point you and I have looked into weird traditions before traditions,

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Speaker 1: I want to be fair, traditions that might seem unusual

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Speaker 1: to outsiders. We've looked into this sort of thing before tradition.

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Speaker 1: Do you know that you've seen The Fiddler on the Roof?

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Speaker 1: I have a long time ago all about tradition. In fact,

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Speaker 1: only lyric I remember, But there's a whole song around it.

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Speaker 1: You guys can check it out in your own time, Yes,

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Speaker 1: please do. And while you are checking things out, you

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Speaker 1: may also run into other strange traditions. We're familiar with

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Speaker 1: some wedding traditions like uh, tossing the garter belts? What's

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Speaker 1: that one about? Always that seems so ascay. It's like

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Speaker 1: the person who catches the garter belt traditionally is amongst

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Speaker 1: this a ritualistic force feeding. Yes, and we do know

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Speaker 1: this comes from Rachel Sylvester, associate Real Weddings editor with

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Speaker 1: the Knot. However, says Sylvester, the symbolisms often lost and

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Speaker 1: it's been replaced increasingly now with this tradition that Noel

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Speaker 1: June of twenty eleven, where Faithful writes into Abby and says,

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Speaker 1: Dear Abbe, I'm writing you about a disgusting, rude and

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Speaker 1: not to mention disrespectful? What do you think of this custom?

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Speaker 1: the customs should have been retired at least fifty years ago.

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Speaker 1: The significance of this quote unquote ritual is demeaning to women,

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Speaker 1: Tad Tuleja, the cake cutting at modern weddings is a

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Speaker 1: fourth step comedic ritual that sustains masculine prerogatives in the

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Speaker 1: in the first step of the comedy, the groom helps

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Speaker 1: it really pushes home the kind of inherent misogyny in

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Speaker 1: This makes a little bit of a stretch to me,

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Speaker 1: she subverts this trope by shoving it in his face

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Speaker 1: playfully right. And then Abby goes on that this act

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Speaker 1: So you have to wonder how far back does this go.

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Speaker 1: We know in ancient room the bride could expect to

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Speaker 1: conclude festivities by having a barley cake smashed upside her head.

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Speaker 1: So in this case, back in Rome, it was the

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Speaker 1: bride who got cakes mashed. Yeah, And then I found

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Speaker 1: this great Smithsonian article that the details some other early

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Speaker 1: bride and groom would kiss each other on top of

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Speaker 1: a pile of buns, and this act was meant to

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Speaker 1: But there's another weird part about that one, Yeah, they're sure,

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Speaker 1: all the things that happened to it. And as it

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Speaker 1: turns out, this particular recipe in these early British traditions

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Speaker 1: because sugar was becoming more plentiful and affordable in England. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: serious status symbol, right Ben, Yeah, it was absolutely serious

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Speaker 1: and wedding cakes are big business these days, is all

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Speaker 1: having a Star Wars wedding, it could be at a

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Speaker 1: moscale model of tattooing. And one person doubled down, right,

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Speaker 1: We read about a We read about one bride who

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Speaker 1: which to me is weird. It's a little vain maybe,

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Speaker 1: smart because obviously this big, giant, showy cake is less

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Speaker 1: They're just strange and they were news to us newly

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Speaker 1: Michelle and the subject is Butter episode, and she goes,

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Speaker 1: I know I'm late to the party with responni of

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Speaker 1: the issue. You refer to butter as a spread, a seasoning,

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Speaker 1: then by nature it's a luxury, not a necessity. Also,

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Speaker 1: come on, I don't know, I hear you, Michelle, though

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Speaker 1: it pertains to our Antarctica episode. Sarah P. Writes in

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Speaker 1: to say Ben aol and superproducer Case. I found your

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