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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Andrew Brant sports Illustrated columnists, and he's a

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Speaker 1: former Packer executive. He was there for Farve, he was

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Speaker 1: there with Aaron Rodgers draft. Let me start with that,

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Speaker 1: Andrew If I said, right now, start a franchise and

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Speaker 1: you have to give him a seven year contract. Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: justin Herbert, Josh Allen, not where I thought we were going. Morning, Dan, Morning,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the new new kid on the block.

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. Do you mean Matt if I If you're

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Speaker 1: on the clock right now and all three are available,

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Speaker 1: and this has nothing to do with your roster, just

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Speaker 1: that quarterback you're taking. You know what Mahomes is. You

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Speaker 1: sort of know what Allan and Herbert are a smaller

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Speaker 1: just mentioned Farvan Rogers. I'm a strong believer that quarterback

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Speaker 1: is an arm position. Now, all those guys have cannons

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Speaker 1: all they do. I'm just thinking this guy's got the

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Speaker 1: again tiny sample size of the three big arms there,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking Herbert may have the biggest arm. That's where

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Speaker 1: I'm going. Well, I think Josh Allen has the biggest arm.

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Speaker 1: But Keith mind, these three guys all had big question

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Speaker 1: marks coming in. We didn't even think that Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: was going to play, that he was going to sit.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen had no real success going into the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I mean he played at Wyoming, and then Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: But no one sits. I mean, you say Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't think Trey Lanz is ready to play,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, and I admit it, I'm like, why, Like,

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Speaker 1: I know the guy's going to be raw and rookie

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Speaker 1: make some mistakes whether they start now, in November, December

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Speaker 1: the topic I wanted to talk to you about because

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Speaker 1: you've been on fire on Twitter. So, Andrew Bran, sports

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Speaker 1: illustrated columnist, host of Businesses Sports podcast, former Packers executive

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Speaker 1: said in a tweet that Gruden was sacrificed for the

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Speaker 1: greater good and in parentheses put NFL owners in there

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Speaker 1: who sacrificed him? And why? I don't know. That's what

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Speaker 1: don't get this for people who haven't been found this close.

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Speaker 1: See this is an inquiry into the Washington Football Club

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Speaker 1: do this yet a ESPN broadcaster from emails ten years ago.

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Speaker 1: Is the emails that we see, that's the information that

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Speaker 1: comes out of this. Can't debate the emails obviously repugnant, reviled,

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Speaker 1: gone consequences, right, But why this and why not others?

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Speaker 1: And why not more? Someone somewhere wanted this out, wanted

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Speaker 1: whatever the reasons, I don't know what the greater interests

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Speaker 1: something else not coming out, for diversion to this story

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Speaker 1: in Washington. I don't know, Dan, I'm listen. Last week,

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Speaker 1: which are very offensive to him. This week, Gruden continues

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Speaker 1: this was leaked under my watch. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: to say let's come in here because we had somebody

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Speaker 1: address what's coming out of Washington, right, And yes, I

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Speaker 1: think we need statements here beyond you know, bruten screwed up.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I use this word sacrifice. And I

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Speaker 1: what you wish for. I guess to whoever's leaking it.

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Speaker 1: But here's a question, Dan, answer me this. I know

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Speaker 1: You know, Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder are best friends.

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Speaker 1: I think that there was a coup that they were

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Speaker 1: trying to get rid of Roger Goodell a couple of

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Speaker 1: almost feels like Roger Goodell's protecting the owners from the owners. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: knows by now. Roger Goodell is paid and hired by

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Speaker 1: the owners. This idea of this player's commissioner. And I

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Speaker 1: know we have some of that with the NBA, But no,

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Speaker 1: he's serious. They're his constituents. He's there to serve them,

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Speaker 1: and he's done a great job on the business. Business

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Speaker 1: is booming. It's better than ever right now. The NFL

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Speaker 1: has multi year deals with both with labor and with media.

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Speaker 1: They're set so for whatever reason they wanted these emails

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Speaker 1: else from Washington going that way to Gruden. A lot

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Speaker 1: to ask, but legally, yeah, can anybody file anything that

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Speaker 1: So that seems hardly independent. And also, did John Gruden

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Speaker 1: He's not walking away with zero. So listen, he could

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Speaker 1: going to be an NDA, no disparaging comments, nothing else

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Speaker 1: believe me, but he's not walking away with nothing. So

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Speaker 1: Bob Lamont, who I dealt with for years. There's this

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Speaker 1: whole Andy Reid Tree, includes Gruden, Mike Holmgren Tree, Sorry,

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Speaker 1: Bob Lamont and lawyers working for them just get worse

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Speaker 1: in the coming weeks. The NFL hopes not, I mean

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Speaker 1: I think the NFL thinks that. I think they're helping that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think they're hopping. I think we transparency, breeds trust.

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Speaker 1: I get emails from people like they're like the mafia, Well,

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Speaker 1: the mafia has secrets. When you have secrets, you're going

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Speaker 1: to get those kind of comments. Great to touch base with.

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Speaker 1: It keeps sarnered up on Twitter. Andrew, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: As always, that was a pleasure. Dan Talk soon. That's

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Speaker 1: the seasons starting in what a week or so? Well,

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Speaker 1: conversations clearly took place. Okay, explained the policy. The rule

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Speaker 1: So it does not impact anybody on the Knicks. Every

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Speaker 1: They whipped on it. They didn't get the answer. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to guess that you'll know this. I have a

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Speaker 1: favorite pitcher. He's still in the playoffs. He's had a

427
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Speaker 1: lot of success in the playoffs, and he's thirty seven

428
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Speaker 1: years of age. Do you want to guess the pitcher

429
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Speaker 1: that I love. He's a guy that I love watching pitch.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's Charlie Morton, Yes it is. I love

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Speaker 1: Charlie Dan. He's better now than he was when he

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Speaker 1: was twenty seven. He's better now than he was when

433
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Speaker 1: he was thirty one. This is the beauty of baseball.

434
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Speaker 1: You know this. The light goes on for certain guys.

435
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 1: I told you once that Matt Das like twelve years

436
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Speaker 1: ago in the Braves Clubhouse, I mean the Pirates Clubhouse

437
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Speaker 1: in spring training. Told me, pointed to Charlie Morton and

438
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Speaker 1: said Roy Halliday, and I'm looking at Charlie Morton's numbers

439
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 1: and said he can't beat Roy Halliday. And Matt Das said, watch,

440
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna come for this guy. And it has. And

441
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Speaker 1: now he's thirty seven years old. He's got as good

442
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Speaker 1: a curveball as there is in the major leagues. He

443
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Speaker 1: throws ninety eight miles an hour yesterday thirty seven on

444
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Speaker 1: short rest. He by the way, he is a he's

445
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Speaker 1: a expert barbecue guy. He can make furniture, he can

446
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: play the guitar, he can sing, he can do all

447
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: this stuff. And yet I think he wants to retire.

448
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: But he's wayn't too good to retire. They keep bringing

449
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Speaker 1: it back, and he's so good. He says, all right,

450
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Speaker 1: I'll play for another year because I'm good. I know.

451
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: And he's you know, success in the postseason. It's just

452
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Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that you get to the postseason,

453
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Speaker 1: you see him pitch and you go, I'll be damned.

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Speaker 1: You know. He's on a different team, but he's still

455
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Speaker 1: very successful and he's so good. By the way, Dan

456
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Speaker 1: with barbecue, sorry to interrupt. He has a little hitch

457
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Speaker 1: on the back of his car where it's truck where

458
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: he can take the grill with him wherever he goes.

459
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Speaker 1: He's going on. So I said, if you ever this

460
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Speaker 1: is when he was with the Rays. I said, have

461
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Speaker 1: you ever taken the grill like to the ballpark? He said,

462
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Speaker 1: no way, you have to start grilling and and all

463
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Speaker 1: that at you know, three o'clock in the morning. I'm

464
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Speaker 1: not going to the trop at three o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Just be seen my teammates. So he's really good at

466
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Speaker 1: stuff like that. I brought up who's ailed two? Who

467
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: once again had a really good postseason? Or he started

468
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Speaker 1: out there, And then I was wondering that, let's say

469
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Speaker 1: they get to the World Series, let's say they faced

470
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers. The cheating scandal is going to come up

471
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Speaker 1: again from twenty seventeen. Are the voters going to hold

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Speaker 1: that against jose L Twove for the Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 1: I think some will. I've been a voter for thirty

474
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Speaker 1: one years and I'm not going to hold it against him.

475
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Speaker 1: He's going to have Hall of Fame numbers for sure.

476
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Speaker 1: Just go look at where he is in his career. Now,

477
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Speaker 1: look at all how many hits he's got. He's got

478
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Speaker 1: nineteen postseason homers, He's stolen bases, he's won gold gloves,

479
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Speaker 1: he won an MVPN. I understand he was in the

480
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: middle of something he shouldn't have been in the middle of.

481
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Speaker 1: But I'm not so naive to think that, Yeah, they're

482
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Speaker 1: the only team that ever tried to steal a sign

483
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Speaker 1: or cheat or something like that. We've been doing this

484
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Speaker 1: in baseball for one hundred and forty years and I'm

485
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Speaker 1: not condoning any of it. But if you're asking me,

486
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Speaker 1: would I vote for him if he has the numbers,

487
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: I will do. I think some people will say, no,

488
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: he was part of something they should have been a

489
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: part of him, not vote for him. Yes, I think

490
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: that will happen to some degree. Yeah, And you know,

491
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Speaker 1: I get usually a flood of emails whenever the Astros

492
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Speaker 1: do well, because they're like, see, we don't need to cheat,

493
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 1: we're good. And I always say, but why did you

494
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: cheat in the first place if you didn't need to cheat?

495
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Speaker 1: Are they a great story this year if they go

496
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Speaker 1: to the World Series, Yes, that's a great story. It

497
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Speaker 1: doesn't take away twenty seventeen, I still think baseball. Baseball

498
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: had taken away physically taken away the World Series trophy,

499
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Speaker 1: since you couldn't take away anything else except for a

500
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Speaker 1: couple of jobs with manager and GM, would we be

501
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: satisfied with that? As you know the Baseball jury, I

502
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: don't think that's a good idea because if you take

503
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Speaker 1: it away, Dan, now other teams are going to say, well,

504
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Speaker 1: what about us? We lost the World Series. I'm just

505
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: making this up in nineteen eighty nine because the whole

506
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: team we played against was juiced. And then the fifty

507
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: one Dodgers can say, well, the Giants were stealing signs

508
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: and they beat us in two out of three and

509
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: ended up going to the World Series. Why don't we

510
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: win the National League? Pennant, I just don't think you

511
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: can open up that box because there are too many

512
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: things in it. Dan, Look for the rest of time,

513
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: all those guys are going to have that as part

514
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: of their resume. Some of them are going to have

515
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: it in the first paragraph of whatever big story is

516
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: written about them, and they're gonna get booed for a

517
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: long time. Dan. You don't want people in your industry

518
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: saying Dan Patrick's a cheater, we don't have any respect

519
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 1: for him. That may not be enough punishment. You're not

520
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: taking away the stats or the money or the trophy.

521
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: But I sure wouldn't want somebody who I play against

522
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 1: all the time saying I have no respect for you

523
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: for what you did. That would hurt That would really

524
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: hurt me. I know that you want the Astro's Dodgers. Well,

525
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,479
Speaker 1: I think that would be pretty good. But let's just

526
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Speaker 1: say the Giants, who are supposed to win seventy four

527
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Speaker 1: games this year, we supposed with fewer games than the

528
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Speaker 1: Diamondbacks who lost like two hundred games this year, and

529
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Speaker 1: the Red Sox who finished last last year. Let's say

530
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Speaker 1: the Red Sox played the Giants in the World Series.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that would be wildly interesting. But yes, I

532
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: think everyone thinks that LA against Houston would be really cool,

533
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: a rematch and all that stuff. I'm just a little afraid, Dan,

534
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm way too much of a goody two

535
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: shoes here that we would get away from how great

536
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: these players are and these teams are and concentrate more

537
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Speaker 1: on what happened four years ago. And I'm just not

538
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: sure that's what we should be doing in twenty twenty one.

539
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: I set the scene for Thursday Night Dodgers Giants. Well,

540
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: the Giants are so good, Dan, And I'm telling you,

541
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Speaker 1: I've looked for a Bowl and I can't find it

542
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: of a team that was supposed to win seventy four

543
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: games and didn't add anybody of great significance where you

544
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: can point to them and say, well, that's the reason

545
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: they're so much better. The forty five Red Sox won

546
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 1: seventy one games, and the next year they won one

547
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: hundred and four and beat the Yankees and went to

548
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: the World Series. But Ted Williams came back from World

549
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: War Two and hit three forty two. That's the reason

550
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: they got so much better. You can't identify that with

551
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: the Giants, which is what makes their story so fascinating.

552
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: Now they have good players, I mean Buster Posey's a

553
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: borderline Hall of Fame or Chris Bryant. These guys are

554
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: good players. But the whole team bought into this team concept.

555
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: They hit the ball out of the ballpark, They pitched

556
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Speaker 1: really well, and the scene for tomorrow night is going

557
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: to be spectacular. In that ballpark, two teams who've never

558
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: played in the playoffs, you know, since nineteen hundred, playing

559
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: in a winner take all game and Dan. At the moment,

560
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: they both have one hundred and nine wins, one hundred

561
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: and nine and they're playing a best of five and

562
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: the deciders tomorrow night. I can't wait. I just wonder

563
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: if there's any similarities with the Oral Hirsheiser Dodgers when

564
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: they won the World Series when they didn't have star power.

565
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: They had Oral, but it wasn't a lineup that was

566
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Speaker 1: a murderer's row. In fact, you know, didn't Bob Costas

567
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: famously come out and say something prior to the start

568
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 1: of that series about you know, you're going against a

569
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Speaker 1: great team like the Oakland A's and the Dodgers really

570
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: have no chance. I'm paraphrasing Bob here, but you know

571
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Speaker 1: that that wasn't a formidable lineup that they had, right.

572
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Speaker 1: But the Giants lineup is foreignable, Dan. They were leading

573
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Speaker 1: the National League and home runs for most of the

574
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Speaker 1: season and they think they finished second, just a couple behind.

575
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Speaker 1: So they have a very good lineup. They just do

576
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Speaker 1: it in a slightly different way. Instead of having three

577
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Speaker 1: Hall of Famers, We're going to hit forty homers in

578
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Speaker 1: the middle. Everyone on the team is hit five or

579
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Speaker 1: more homers, like ten Guy I said ten or more homers,

580
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: and from one through eight in the order, and the

581
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: order always changes. Somebody can hit the ball out of

582
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: the ballpark. Lamont Wade, Will Murflores, all these guys who

583
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: are are decent players, but when you put them in

584
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: the right matchup, they become a really good player for

585
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: that day. That's the secret of the Giants. Talking to

586
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Speaker 1: Tim Kirchin, Baseball reporter, and he'll be with Carl Ravage,

587
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: part of ESPN's regular Baseball Tonight telecast through the remainder

588
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: of the postseason shows. The show airs every night at

589
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: midnight Eastern ESPN Radio, also the national audio home of

590
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: the postseason continuing that covers all the way through the

591
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Speaker 1: World Series. What's best for baseball with Shoheo Tony his future, Well,

592
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: he's got to keep doing what he's doing and that's

593
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: going to be really hard to do to pitch that well.

594
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: But part of me but where it is, Oh oh,

595
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: I see he should play at the Angels, Mike Trout

596
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: and he should be the stars that we all want

597
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: to see. And I don't think it's that far off.

598
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: But they are going to have to add literally three

599
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: quality starting pitchers if this is going to happen, and

600
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: then they're gonna have to add two quality relievers if

601
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: this is going to happen, and they can do that,

602
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: I believe with the money they have. I mean, just

603
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: imagine Dan. Mike Trout's the best player most of us

604
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: have ever seen. I saw William May's play, so Mike

605
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: Trout might be the second best player I've ever seen.

606
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: But Shoe Hotani is No one's ever seen that guy before.

607
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: Imagine those two guys, the best player you've ever seen

608
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: and the most remarkable player you've ever seen, taken their

609
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: team into the playoffs. I think you have to keep

610
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Speaker 1: those two together and then do whatever it takes to

611
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: build around them. I'm not sure you can do it,

612
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: but I just don't think they're that far off from

613
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: being a playoff team. Baseball is a funny game. You

614
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: go from real bad, too good to real bad all

615
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden. I think it can happen with Angels,

616
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: but they better get some pitching soon. But I just

617
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: wonder how long do you keep Botany with the dual

618
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: duties there, with pitching and being in the everyday lineup, Well,

619
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Speaker 1: as long as you possibly can, because his stuff is tremendous.

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00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: That split Dan is unhittable. His offense, obviously is. His

621
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Speaker 1: power is ridiculous. He hit eight triples. No one's ever

622
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Speaker 1: done what he did last year when it comes to pitching, defense,

623
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Speaker 1: and mostly speed and power. It's just so I would

624
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Speaker 1: tell him, if you're up for it physically, we want

625
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Speaker 1: you to do exactly what you did in twenty twenty one.

626
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Speaker 1: And if he can do that again, don't stop it.

627
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: I just wonder if he'll be sort of a baseball

628
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Speaker 1: version of Bo Jackson. Where Bo played football played baseball,

629
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: probably could have been a Hall of Famer if he

630
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: committed to one sport. I wonder if Otani could he

631
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: be a holl of Famer at both positions. If he

632
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: concentrated on just one of those positions, I think he

633
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: would have a chance. And look, I love Bo Jackson.

634
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: I could tell you hours of Bo Jackson stories some

635
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: of the things I saw him do. But Otani's a

636
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: better hitter than Bo Jackson was, and obviously he's a

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Speaker 1: better pitcher than Bo Jackson was. And yes, if Botani

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Speaker 1: said I just want to hit, I think he could

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Speaker 1: hit a ton of homer steal a ton of bases.

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Speaker 1: And be a way above average defensive outfielder. I think

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Speaker 1: if he just wanted to pitch, I think he could

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Speaker 1: be a twenty game winner with a NIRA under three.

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Speaker 1: That's how good I think he is. Bo Jackson, by

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Speaker 1: the way, Dan was the fastest and the strongest guy

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Speaker 1: in the game. I believe at the same time. Think

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Speaker 1: about that he could outrun anyone, and he was stronger

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Speaker 1: than anyone. Jimmy Stewart, a scout, once told me a

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Speaker 1: long time ago. He said, I scouted Bo in college.

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Speaker 1: He said, I saw him hit a five hundred foot

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Speaker 1: home run. Then he ran out and caught it before

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Speaker 1: it hit the ground, and then he threw it back

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Speaker 1: the home plate in the air. That's how he described

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Speaker 1: the tools of Bo Jackson. Not that it had happened,

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Speaker 1: but you know that had happened. He was joking. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's still he's one of those He's just one of

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Speaker 1: those names that if he had stayed healthy, you just

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Speaker 1: wonder what he would have accomplished in either one of

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Speaker 1: those sports. Yeah, George Prett used to tell me. He said,

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Speaker 1: I never never once missed the Bojackson at bat. I

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Speaker 1: never went to the bathroom once during a Bojackson at

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Speaker 1: bat because I might miss something that I've never seen before.

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Speaker 1: And I was there that night, Dan. You know that

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Speaker 1: when he ran up the right the left center field

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Speaker 1: fence in Baltimore, I was covered in that game. He

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Speaker 1: looked like a race car going around a ramp turn,

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Speaker 1: you know, a two hundred and forty pound man at

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Speaker 1: full speed running up the fence like that. It was fascinating.

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Speaker 1: And every time Harrold Reynolds used to tell me, we

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Speaker 1: love Harrold Reynolds. Of course, every time Bow would get

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Speaker 1: on fur in like a double play situation, Harold gelt Ooh,

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Speaker 1: this is baseball. It's not because Harold was gonna have

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Speaker 1: to hang in there at second base if he was

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Speaker 1: turning two or Bow is stealing. Right, we don't have

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Speaker 1: to do that anymore, Dan, But back then, when two

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Speaker 1: hundred and forty pounds of metal spikes came at you

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Speaker 1: at one hundred thousand hours, that was a bad situation.

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Speaker 1: All right, How does the postseason end? How does it

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Speaker 1: play out? Well? I've been wrong so far, so badly,

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Speaker 1: But I picked the Dodgers to beat the Rays in

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Speaker 1: the World Series, so I'm gonna say stay with it. Somehow,

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Speaker 1: some way, the Dodgers are gonna win Game five. That's

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Speaker 1: taking nothing away from the Giants, and Giants I just

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Speaker 1: told you are great. I just think whoever wins that

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Speaker 1: series beats the Braves, even though I just did the

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Speaker 1: Brave Series for four games and Freddie Freeman is so

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Speaker 1: good and their pitching was so great. They dominated the

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Speaker 1: Brewers with their pitching. I just don't think the Braves

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Speaker 1: can beat the Giants or the Dodgers. American League. I

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Speaker 1: think the Astros beat the Red Sox, but if you

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Speaker 1: just scount the Red Sox one more time, you're making

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Speaker 1: a mistake. I just think that the Astros are better,

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Speaker 1: and I think the Dodgers beat the Astros in the

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Speaker 1: World Series. Now that's what I think, But I certainly

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Speaker 1: don't know. And the beauty of this postseason, like everyone is,

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Speaker 1: anyone who thinks he knows it's going to happen, is

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Speaker 1: just hasn't been watching baseball for the last forty years.

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Speaker 1: You're looking good, tim doctor Fauci, and I look an

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Speaker 1: awful lot of like, yeah, he's eating. I was talking

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Speaker 1: to a guy recently. We're going over some old, some

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Speaker 1: old baseball for the fifties or sixties. This was a

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Speaker 1: few years ago, and he goes, oh, you know a

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Speaker 1: lot about baseball. What are you seventy seventy five. I

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Speaker 1: was fifty eight years old, five seventy five. It's terrible.

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Speaker 1: Keep your head up, Tim, I will thank you budd

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Speaker 1: all right, see you soon.