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One of 21 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 3: my listeners in my YouTube my YouTube show, The Stick 22 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 3: of True podcast on YouTube sent me this and said 23 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 3: could you please wear this the next time you do 24 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 3: a podcast. So I wore it today. It'll be out 25 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 3: this afternoon, and I'll tell you what, I'm loving this shirt. 26 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 3: This is awesome and it is so much me because 27 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: I'm out there. On Monday, I was out in my 28 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,919 Speaker 3: yard for three and a half hours working in the yard, mowing, 29 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: getting the leaves up. 30 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 4: Tremendous, just tremendous work. 31 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. I spent about an hour a week with a therapist. 32 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: You get it for free on your lawn. I mean 33 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: that's the difference. Sadly, you're the smart one, all right. 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: Of all the things Sean Payton has done, I mean 35 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: they gave he inherited a team that had Russell Wilson, 36 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: gave up draft capital. They are really good. What's the 37 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: one thing? Because you cover them weekly, you see him, 38 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: you talk about him, what is the one secret sauce 39 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: to what he's done? 40 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 4: Well? 41 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: The olds guy's accountable first and foremost colin. The salary 42 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: cap in the NFL is fungible. It is the biggest 43 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: joke to me when we say, oh we can't let 44 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 3: go of this guy, or oh we're going to be 45 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: in solid salary cap purgatory. What are we going to do, 46 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, We're never gonna be able to rebuild. You 47 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: can manipulate that money any way you want to manipulate 48 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 3: that money. If you want to get rid of a guy, 49 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: you can get rid of him. If you want to 50 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 3: pay a guy, you can pay a guy. So that 51 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: old salary cap thing is garbage. Then, I think from 52 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: Sean's standpoint, man, he's a great coach. 53 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 4: He motivates his players. 54 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: And he's one of those guys that has the two 55 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: types of fear that always talk about biblically. Fear refers 56 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: to kind of awesome reverence and respect. He's got the 57 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: respect and the reverence of his players, but also fear 58 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: like I'll cut your ass in a heartbeat if you 59 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 3: don't do what I ask you to do. And over 60 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks they were abysmal on the edge, 61 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 3: bubble screens, wide receivers, not blocking, and I guarantee you 62 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: they had a little come to Jesus meeting inside the 63 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: walls of the Denver Bronc and said, if you're not 64 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 3: going to do this, if you're not going to execute, 65 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: if you receivers aren't going to block, then you're not 66 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: going to get to play. And last week was evidence 67 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: of that because last week they started Pat Bryant, a 68 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: rookie wide receiver, and said you're going to be the 69 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: point of attack on our. 70 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 4: Pitch and pull game. 71 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: We're going to be the point of attack out there 72 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: blocking people. 73 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 4: On bubble screens. 74 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: And he absolutely dispensed justice out there as a receiver blocking. 75 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: You know what they did later rewarded him with a 76 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: touchdown over the top, deep hill over the top. So 77 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: that's exactly the time of coach that he is to 78 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: hold you accountable and if you don't want to do it, 79 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: being like, yes, don't do it, but you're not gonna 80 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: play for me. 81 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: And I love that aspect of Sean Payton. 82 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: You called Browns at the Patriots. You saw Drake May. 83 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: He's got to learn how to slide. What you I 84 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: mean you obviously played with Elway? 85 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 5: What I mean? 86 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: I think Drake May is going to be a star, 87 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: if not already. What do you see as somebody that 88 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: played in the NFL forever, three rings, two Pro Bowls? 89 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: What do you see that you go wow? What's his 90 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: wow trait? 91 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: I think one Colin is his ability to throw a 92 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: deep ball, to get that deep ball to turn over 93 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: and be deadly accurate on that from all kinds of 94 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 3: different platforms. The guy has just been amazing and there's 95 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 3: so much room for growth. Sitting down talking with Josh McDaniels, 96 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: their offensive coordinator, he's like, listen, man, at this particular 97 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 3: point in time, he's so good on the front side 98 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: of saying, hey man, one to two. If it's not open, 99 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 3: he'll take off and he goes. He'll get to three 100 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 3: and four occasionally, but right now it's like one, two, 101 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: let me go make a play, let me go do 102 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: something positive for my offense. And then he's like, hey man, 103 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: when he consistently gets to the third and fourth readay 104 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 3: in his progression. 105 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 4: He's going to be exceptional. 106 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: Now. 107 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: The thing about him is he's one of those rare cats. 108 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: Like most of us can see it when we draw 109 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: it up on a grease forward or when we watch 110 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: it on film, but when you come off the sideline 111 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: and the coach can explain to you this is what 112 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 3: they were in and you can visualize it. You can 113 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 3: see that visual picture in your brain and you're like, okay, 114 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 3: I get it, and not make a mistake going forward, 115 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: basically assimilating that information, being able to process the whole 116 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 3: thing with just words that create pictures in your mind. 117 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: And that's where those elite level processors, those elite level 118 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 3: decision makers, they see the game at a different level. 119 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 4: And I think that's where Drake is right now. 120 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: And it's not good enough to just call him one 121 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 3: of the best gung quarterbacks in football. 122 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 4: He's just playing like one of the best quarterbacks in football. 123 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: So AJ Brown, there was a story in The Athletic 124 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: Today and AJ Brown his words was like, I don't 125 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: make friends easily. I'm a bit of a loner. The 126 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: writer said, his dopamine is catching the football. And in 127 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: my lifetime, you can go back to Andre Risen or 128 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: to the receivers. Have always been sort of a little 129 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: bit of an NBA player. They're on an island. They're 130 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: often the tallest, longest, best athlete, often the fastest guy 131 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: in the team. They're very unique athletes. They don't you 132 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: know a lot of times they're just on an island. 133 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: You throw it up for them when they're not open. 134 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: When reading that article, Philadelphia is such a collective. I mean, 135 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: their number one play is the tush push ugly all 136 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: in as a team, right, and Aj Brown's the opposite. 137 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: He's on the edge, He's on an island. I think 138 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: last week they didn't play him. The offense was great. 139 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: Did you ever have a teammate who was wildly talented 140 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: but was a bit of a loaner Maybe wasn't part 141 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: of the structure of the team. Doesn't make him a 142 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: bad guy, But like we almost think, the more talent, 143 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: the better fit is really important in pro sports. I 144 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: just don't know if Aj Brown works in Philly long term. 145 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you might be right. And you know, 146 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 3: I always say this about wide receivers. I probably said 147 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: it on your show at time or two. They're like children. 148 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: They're dependent, right, eleven guys or ten other guys have 149 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: to do their job really well for you to catch 150 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: a football. And then they're they're you know, they whine 151 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: and cry if they don't get fed. Like they're just 152 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: like toddlers, and and that's not always a good thing 153 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: to be that toddler. And I would I would tell 154 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: you this, the guy's incredibly talented. But I go back 155 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: to what wins in Philly, and what wins in Philly 156 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: is exactly what you said. Hey, we've got to be 157 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: a dominant front. We've got to run the football, we've 158 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: got to control the time of possession. We've got to 159 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: limit our quarterback. He's not a high volume thrower. He's 160 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: a low volume thrower. Off the play action stuff. When 161 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: we get those single high safety rotations to where they're 162 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: trying to stop the run game, then we get access 163 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: to the outside. And you look at it. Last week 164 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: played out exactly like that. They ran the snot on 165 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: the ball safe. Quon Barkley hits one deep for a 166 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: touchdown early in that game, and Jalen Hurts had twenty 167 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: balls that he threw fifteen completions. 168 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 4: That's the formula. 169 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: And like, listen, man, there's nothing wrong with winning that way, 170 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: and there's nothing wrong with managing your team that way 171 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: because that's what your identity is and that's the way 172 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 3: you play the best. But that doesn't necessarily lend itself 173 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 3: to a guy that wants to be featured, that wants 174 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: to catch the football like AJ Brown. 175 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: Does you know I got to answer you a question. 176 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of in the weeds, but I've seen Andy 177 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: Reid got rid of Joe Toney and their own line 178 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: is ranked fourth and they haven't even had Josh Simmons. Regularly, 179 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: I've seen McVeigh rebuild his offensive line. There's something about 180 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: offensive which is yet Tomlin, I'm on year seven. I 181 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: don't like their O line. There is something about certain coaches, 182 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: and you played the position at the highest level, and 183 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: I think it's mostly offensive coaches have an ability to mold, 184 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: mesh and create cohesion up front. And again Andy Reid's 185 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: had to rebuild that thing four times in six or 186 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: seven years. What is the secret sauce? Now, you can 187 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: always just go draft penay Sewel. You know there are 188 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: ways Tristan Wurse sometimes you figure out in April. But 189 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: when I see these offensive coaches rebuilding the O lines 190 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: over and over and over and over, what's the secret 191 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: sauce into building a great O line beyond buying Trent Williams. 192 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it becomes one of those five guys working 193 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: together for you know, for the for each for each other, 194 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: Like you got to be on the same page. So 195 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 3: you've got to be seeing things identically and you've got 196 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 3: to all be doing the work together. You know, I 197 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: always say this, all five of us can be doing 198 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 3: the wrong thing. As long as we're doing the wrong 199 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: thing together, we're gonna get four yards. Like that's how 200 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 3: offensive line play works. And so it becomes continuity. How 201 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 3: much continuity do you have as a group. The other 202 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: thing that I think becomes a parent with guys like 203 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 3: Andy Reid is there are guys who call plays and 204 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 3: there are guys who call offenses. 205 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 4: And when you become somebody who becomes a. 206 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 3: Creator of offense in structure and you understand the issues 207 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: that your offensive line has and the offensive line faces, 208 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 3: you start to call plays in a fashion that takes 209 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: pressure off those guys. And this is one thing I 210 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: always said over the course of my you know, my 211 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: analyst career. But as I've traveled around and you know, 212 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 3: talked to different teams and consulted with different teams about 213 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 3: play up front, how do you take passive out of 214 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: pass protection? And the great play callers give you tools 215 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: to take the passive out of pass protection, to create 216 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: to create a situation where you're the aggressor as opposed 217 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 3: to just sitting back and throwing it forty times and 218 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: becoming a catcher's midt. Like, nobody is going to have 219 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 3: success doing that. So it's really the structure of how 220 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: you call plays, how you tie plays together, and how 221 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 3: you let that offensive line come off the ball and 222 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 3: actually be the aggressors in those things. When you can 223 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: play ahead of the chains and it's second down to 224 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 3: four and your whole playbook is open to you, then 225 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: the defense has to do what they have to respond to. 226 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: In con so, they have to defend the run, they 227 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 3: have to defend the play action, they have to defend 228 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 3: the play pass, they have to defend the drop patch, 229 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: they have to defend the quick game. 230 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 4: You know what you don't do real well when you 231 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 4: do that. 232 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 3: You don't rush the passer, you don't affect the quarterback 233 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: when you have all those other things that you have 234 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: to defend. And that's the great play callers do that 235 00:11:58,760 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: for their own lines. 236 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: Finally, is there a team and you can include Denver 237 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: if I if you guess today the Super Bowl the 238 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 1: best of the bat Now again, football looks different in 239 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: late October, November, December. Run games become more important, downfield 240 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: throwing not as important. If I said today Super Bowl. 241 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: Are there a team in each conference that jumps out 242 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: to you? 243 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Chiefs right now, jump out to me, which 244 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 3: makes me want to puke being in a Bronco and 245 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 3: living here. But they're really good, and they're there the 246 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: balance of you know what they're doing offensively and you 247 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: know the way they're playing on the defensive side. And 248 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: you know, the crazy thing about the Chiefs is I 249 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: want to hate them so much, but I actually really 250 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 3: respect them. Like Andy Reid, I really respect Patrick Mahomes's 251 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 3: ability to play. I respect us Fags and what they 252 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 3: do on the defensive side of the ball. So I 253 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: really respect them as a football team. I just hit 254 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: my AFC West Ties. I hate then with the white 255 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: hot intensity of a thousand suns. But I think they're 256 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 3: the best team in the AFC right now, maybe in 257 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 3: the National Football League. The other one is the Rams 258 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 3: for me, man, the Rams just have that. You know, 259 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: the Rams are disguised this finesse. You know, they've got 260 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: this finesse football team, this spread it around football team. 261 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 3: They're a power, run, nasty, physical group both lines of 262 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 3: scrimmage offensively and defensively. Describe the disguised as a spread 263 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 3: football team like they go to Halloween. Describe are disguised 264 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: as a spread football team. 265 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 4: And then they just punch you in the mouth. 266 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 3: I really like the rams love I have obviously Stafford, 267 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 3: but I like the way that Jean McVay has constructed 268 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 3: that football team. 269 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: Mark Schlereth, show that shirt one more time, lot. 270 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 4: Order mowing unit. That's me. That's me right there. I'll 271 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 4: be in the neighborhood all day. 272 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: Come get a taste, all right, thanks Mark as his own. 273 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch line editions of The Herd weekdays 274 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: and noone eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 275 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 276 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: Hey is Covino and Rich from Fox Sports Radio Now. 277 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: In addition to hearing us live weekdays from five to 278 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: seven pm Eastern two to four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 279 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: We're excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for 280 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: the show. 281 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: Yup, that's right. 282 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: You can now watch Covino and Rich live on YouTube 283 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: every day. 284 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: All you gotta do. 285 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: Search Covino and Rich FSR on YouTube again, go to 286 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: YouTube search Covino and Rich FSR. Check us out on YouTube, Subscribe, 287 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: hit that thumbs up icon, comment away J Mack with 288 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: a news no, no, turn on the news. 289 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: This is the Herdline news all. 290 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 6: Right, col Let's go to where Mark was just talking about, 291 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 6: and that is the big matchup in Buffalo on Sunday afternoon. 292 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 6: It is the game of the weekend. Patrick Mahomes against 293 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 6: Josh Allen. They will go ahead to head for the 294 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 6: tenth time. In the regular season, Josh Allen has dominated, 295 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 6: going four and one. In the postseason, obviously it's a 296 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 6: different story. Mahomes has dominated four to zero in the playoffs. Colin, 297 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 6: I'm surprised the Chiefs are layd two and a half. 298 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 6: I think a lot of that has to do with everybody, 299 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 6: including you, think the Chiefs are the best. 300 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: Well, but the weather is a non factor. It's gonna 301 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: be beautiful and fifty degrees, so it's gonna be it's 302 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: gonna be who's got the most weapons on offense. The 303 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: offenses are gonna move the change and I'm taking Kansas 304 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: at all right, you have. 305 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 6: The Chiefs, I'll go ahead to head with you at 306 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 6: the Buffalo Bills. I think that they're being disrespected just 307 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 6: because of a couple of bad games, especially that Atlanta 308 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 6: no show. I mean, hell, they locked to Atlanta and 309 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 6: people wrote them off as jokers. Meanwhile, Patrick Mahomes loses 310 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 6: to Jacksonville and it's like, well, you know, we excuse 311 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 6: it out of the way. We'll see I like Buffalo 312 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 6: in this one. By the way, I loathe the MVP talk. 313 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 6: I think that's stupid and cheap. I am curious. This 314 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 6: is one of those. You know, usually the MVPs side 315 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 6: about like five games, high leverage game where everybody thirty 316 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 6: million people are watching. This is gonna be one of them. 317 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 6: So I think the winner of this takes an edge 318 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 6: in the theoretical MVP race. 319 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 4: Would you agree? 320 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Baker had a lot of momentum early, 321 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: but I think in terms of sheer production and Lamar 322 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: has been hurt and burrows out and Herbert got sacked 323 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: too much. Yeah, it makes a lot. And Daniel Jones 324 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: won't get it. People just well, wait. 325 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 6: A minute, wait a minute. Home loses this one and 326 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 6: then Mahome loses to Daniel Jones. All of a sudden 327 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 6: it becomes I think of Daniel Jones Josh Allen with 328 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 6: Jordan Love in the mixes honestly, and he discuss. 329 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: How much money would you have won if you'd have said, 330 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years. I believe in Daniel Jones, 331 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: he'll be nobody said he'll finish second in the MVP voting. 332 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing you gotta be careful about saying. 333 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: Hot take. If I'd have told you a year out, Yeah, 334 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: KD is going to go to his rival, the Warriors. 335 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: Brady's gonna leave and go to Tampa. Daniel own if 336 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: he gets a single MVP vote is one of the 337 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: stories of the last five years there. 338 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 6: And you'll get an MVP vote. I know there's people saying, 339 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 6: what about Jonathan Taylor. Running backs are given not discussed, 340 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 6: that they're not MVP caliber. I'm sorry, as those are 341 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 6: the rules, Like you have to pick a quarterback. It's 342 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 6: the most important position in sports. That's like the rule. 343 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: I am MVP voting. I would have no problem giving 344 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor MVP none zero. I wouldn't have had a 345 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: problem given Saquon MVP last year, no problem. You're a 346 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: quarterback elitist. I am one of the people. 347 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 6: Let's move on to Washington and Jada Daniels. Jade Daniel 348 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 6: stuff is a little disappointing. He did not practice last week, 349 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 6: obviously didn't play. Dan Quinn, however, confirmed that his rehab 350 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 6: has gone well and they expect Daniels to return to 351 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 6: practice today. Now they have an extra day with the 352 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 6: game against uh Seattle. Oh no, they don't have an 353 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 6: extra day. It's Sunday night. My bad. I thought it 354 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 6: was Monday. Sottle Washington Sunday Night. 355 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: I like it Washington. 356 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, Daniels' myss three starts this season. He hasn't been 357 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 6: the amazing rookie quarterback we saw Colin. You definitely like Washington. 358 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: Here is it the number? 359 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 6: Are you betting the number? 360 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: Or is this well? I saw three and a half 361 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: yesterday on a site at three and a half. I 362 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: love the Commanders. It's my favorite underdog pick of the week, 363 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: the Commanders. Those Sunday night Monday night games, if you 364 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: get good quarterback play, you're at home. The crowd's lubric hated. 365 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: It's a little louder. It's a long flight for Seattle. 366 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: Seahawks have been a good road team though, But if 367 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: it's three and a half, it's one of my favorite 368 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: bets of the week. 369 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 6: Commanders, be careful here, road team off a bye. The 370 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 6: good teams coming off bys this season have looked good 371 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 6: off the bye. The bad teams, there's no hope for them. 372 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 6: Be careful here, my friend. I'm trying to help you out. 373 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 6: I wanted you to come here to LA next week 374 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 6: all broken, penniless, Jay Matt, can you pick up a tab? 375 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 6: And it's not happening? Finals to NBA, Colin, look at 376 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 6: us wedging some NBA into it. And your guy Jonathan Kuminga, 377 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 6: I mean you mentioned him in every trade possible over 378 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 6: the last six months and now he's starting for the 379 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 6: Warriors and you know what, he's playing good defense. He 380 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 6: looks like kind of Harrison Barnes ish with some athleticism. 381 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 6: Steve Kerr has recognized the growth and development of Jonathan Comenca. 382 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 7: He's been fantastic, and you know, last night put him 383 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 7: on Jaw you know tonight we'll put him on James Harden. 384 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 7: He's I think he's ready to take on that role. 385 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 7: He's really putting a lot of pressure on people. So yeah, 386 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 7: the biggest thing is the combination of Jimmy and Draymond 387 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 7: and JK wasn't great last year. But because of all 388 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 7: the improvements JK has made is passing and the stuff 389 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 7: I just mentioned, it's it's really clicking. 390 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: And so we're gonna stay with that. 391 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 1: Here's the thing he couldn't shoot three last year. This 392 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 1: year he's on fire. Now it's early. It's early, and 393 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: you lose your legs. You know, they're asking him to 394 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: do big defensive assignments. That is a lot on the 395 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: other end. So again, over the course of a season, 396 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: he's not gonna shoot forty four percent from threes. You 397 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: just get worn down, you lose your legs, you lose 398 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: your a little your arc. But last year, the one 399 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: thing about I've watched him twice. This year, much better 400 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: three point shooter. The other thing is he's still super young. 401 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: Is he like twenty three years old or twenty four 402 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: years old? 403 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 4: Very young? 404 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: He is very Rarely does a guy walk into the 405 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: NBA and they're a good passer. Lebron was rare. I 406 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: mean Lebron was had an IQ of a ten year bet. 407 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: Most young guys come in, they don't have a great 408 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: outside shot. I mean, Ray Allen didn't shoot threes in 409 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: college like he did in Boston and with the Miami. 410 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: He was an athletic guy that could shoot a little 411 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: Kaminga's passing and shooting, which take time in the gym 412 00:20:55,520 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: and feel are much better, no questions, better field offensively. 413 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 6: Listen, your offseason NFL picks have been fired. Your offseason 414 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 6: NBA takes. You had the Warriors, I believe, missing the 415 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 6: playoffs and the Mavericks I think in the NBA finals, 416 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 6: and we'll give you a mulligan. You got some time left. 417 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 6: Warriors look pretty damn good, Collin, I'm not gonna lie. 418 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: Okay, old team, Okay, they don't need as much seasoning. 419 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 6: Yep, yep. 420 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: Okay, old team looks good early in the NBA season. Okay, 421 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: old team will get banged up more. Old team will 422 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: recover more slowly. 423 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 6: And turnload management. 424 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: The Warriors were going to look. I mean, same coach Draymond. 425 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: I mean it's the same guy that brought the newity, 426 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: veteran coach high IQ team that brought everybody back. A 427 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: lot of movement in Dallas with Tyree's out, Cooper's in 428 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: Dallas has all sorts of movement. It's not a shock 429 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: the Warriors look good early. That's not an all on him, 430 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: but that they were gonna play good. Well, they were 431 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: gonna play well early. 432 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 6: You can bet against Steph Curry at your own peril. 433 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 6: My friend, I will not do such a thing. He's 434 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 6: I love watching it. 435 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 5: Jmackle the news, Well that's the news and thanks for 436 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 5: stopping by the Herd Line Newsy Forget Bo Nicks has 437 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 5: sixty one college starts sec PAC twelve. 438 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: He's a seasoned veteran. Kaminga. You know these guys that 439 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: come into the NBA at eighteen or nineteen years old, 440 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: they come, you know, they do a year in the 441 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: G League or one year of college where they play 442 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: thirty five games. I mean it takes. They can't go 443 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: to the hotel bar and have a glass of wine. 444 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: I mean literally, it takes these guys. You go, when 445 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: you watch Kaminga, it's a prime example. He just turned 446 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: twenty three. He's just figuring out how to play basketball, 447 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: and the Warriors offense is one of the most sophisticated 448 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: in the league. Young guys have always struggled. So you 449 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: watch Cominga now you're like, oh, you can see the 450 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: time in the gym. He can really shoot a three, 451 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: but you can also his feel. Draymond's always been a 452 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: great passer. But Draymond spent I mean didn't he spend 453 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: four years at Michigan State, three or four years under 454 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: Tom Izzo. So Draymond came into the NBA like season, 455 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: excellent coach, good conference. You know, these young guys come 456 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: in it just like I've said, it's about Jalen Green. 457 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: It's not the talent. They don't know how to play 458 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: basketball yet. And for the record, j Max, just a reminder, 459 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: the Warriors last year started twelve and three. So when 460 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: you bring back the composition smart coach, smart, Steph Curry, 461 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: Draymond Green. The question with the Warriors is February in March, 462 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: It's not October. 463 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 6: So yes, I agree, I was mostly joking about your mulligan. 464 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 6: I do think. Listen, we talked load management earlier. 465 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 4: Colin. 466 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 6: You said to one of the oldest seams in the league, 467 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 6: it's smart for the Golden State Warriors to load manage 468 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 6: this season. Correct or Jeor false? 469 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, Steph should play sixty eight games. 470 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, and Draymond should load manage. Jimmy Butler for sure. 471 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah you should. Just you should Jimmy Butler and 472 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: Steph and Draymond should be at the seventy game mark reward. Yeah. 473 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have problems with old guys who 474 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: have been carrying the league with ty. That doesn't bother 475 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: me at all. 476 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 4: Can you tech. 477 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 6: I know you're a big bawler. Can you text Michael Jordan? 478 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 6: Hey man, the old guys should load manage MJ stay 479 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 6: up king, you know, just something funny and witty. 480 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: Yeah right, it's got a bag of those next to me. 481 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: J Mack with the news and we'll take a break 482 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: back finally in Chicago, fifteen minutes left. Don't go anywhere. 483 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: It's the Herd. 484 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 485 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: and noon Easter not a Empacific. 486 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 4: Now. 487 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: I was just thinking about Joel Klatt was talking about 488 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: what a great job. So LSU, Penn State, and Florida 489 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: all have job openings. If I did a pie chart 490 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: of the ten best jobs in college football, and I consider, 491 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: like you know, quality alive, who's your biggest booster? I 492 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: would do Texas at the top, and then beneath that, 493 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: I would do Ohio State in Georgia. So Buckeye's top 494 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: or Texas, longhornse first, Ohio State and Georgia's second. All 495 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: of them, by the way, nice college towns that matters. 496 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: The next three I would say LSU, USC in Florida, 497 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: and then the next four, seven, eight, nine to ten 498 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Oregon, Michigan, Penn State. You say, what about 499 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: Clemson Miami. They're in the ACC. They don't get the 500 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: Big ten money. They don't get the SEC money now 501 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: right now, Oregon doesn't get the Big ten money either, 502 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: but they have Phil Night money, so they get the money. 503 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: So Clemson in Miami just don't. They don't get the 504 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: money that the SEC are the big ten schools get. 505 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: In Oklahoma's probably the one on the way out the 506 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: state of Oklahoma. What it used to deliver in terms 507 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: of high school football players twenty twenty five years ago 508 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: now today it's not that it's not the same, and 509 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: they don't have a Phil Knight. So and I think 510 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: Tennessee Volunteers is way up there. Tennessee, oklahom Ill mcclems 511 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: in Miami. Tennessee has been so dysfunctional. But I would 512 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: say all things considered, Texas Top Ohio State, Georgia, LSU, USC, Florida, 513 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Oregon, Michigan, Penn State. LSU is a little 514 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: crazy town. It's the downside of the SEC. Is That's 515 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: why I like Texas. They're in the SEC, they're not 516 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: of the SEC. They're a little removed music, food scene 517 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: in Austin, little broader world. You know they just run 518 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: through coaches, run through people in the SEC. Well, you know, 519 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: you know you said Alabama with nil, Did I leave 520 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: out Alabama? Okay, I'll put Alabama fourth over Michigan. No, no, 521 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: I'll put Alabama fourth over Penn State. So I'll do 522 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,719 Speaker 1: Michigan and then Bama, and then Penn State can complain. 523 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: So I would let's do it again. Texas, Ohio, Georgia, LSU, USC, Florida, 524 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Oregon, Michigan, Bama in the new nil world, 525 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: I do Bama doesn't have the money. Bama does not 526 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: have the money of Georgia, Texas, Ohio, State, USC, right now, Florida. 527 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: It's not this is not standing. This is not what 528 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: did Nick Saban do. Yeah, I guess Penn State, Oklahoma, 529 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: CLEMS in Miami. I'd probably leave out. It's close. 530 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 4: Colin. 531 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 6: Do you think this is a layered discussion because I 532 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 6: know you have Texas one, but we forget before Sark 533 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 6: they had a run of not being good for like 534 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 6: a decade. I think when arch Manning committed there, Texas 535 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 6: was something like five and six or five. It's coming 536 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 6: off of five and seven. 537 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: So, I mean, let's be honest, Georgia played with their 538 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: food for twenty years. Yeah, until Kirby Smart, it was 539 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: still a great job. I mean, Georgia forever you're like, 540 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: come on, let's let's win a big game. And then 541 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: they got Kirby Smart and they did. 542 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 6: I mean, so some of it is how much is 543 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 6: the collective willing to spend? I think that needs to 544 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 6: be like one of the top questions before you at 545 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 6: any of these job interviews. So ole Miss has they're 546 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 6: spending a lot of money on players. I mean, what 547 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 6: if what they're spending is competitive to what LSU is 548 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 6: and the money's competitive coaching wise, I don't think LSU's 549 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 6: that much of a better job in this era. 550 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: Than ole Miss. 551 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I just you can't convince me, just based 552 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 6: on tell time. 553 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: Out of town LSU, LSU, Les Miles won to Natty 554 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: Saban did at Orsha, those are different eras. Colin at 555 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: Orzeron was like, well, how many years ago? 556 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 6: Four years ago? No, Joe Burke, fine, that was six 557 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 6: six years ago, right in the COVID era. Nil's a 558 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 6: little different now, right, wouldn't you. 559 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: Say if you take Lane Keffin out of Old Miss. 560 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: How often have we ever talked Old Miss well, Lane 561 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: Kiffin is more valuable to Old Miss than vice versa. 562 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: Lane can get a job anywhere, He can get an 563 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: NFL job. Honestly, Lane, Ole Miss needs Lane more than 564 00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: Lane needs Remember Dan Mullen. 565 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 6: Dan Mullen was a hot shot at Mississippi State. They 566 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 6: were ranked first in the country. I think into like November, like, 567 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 6: you can do things if you're a really good coach anywhere. 568 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 6: I mean, I just think right now this whole like 569 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 6: LS used the best job in the country. I don't 570 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 6: know that I'm buying that. I have not heard the 571 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 6: compelling argument. Now listen, if you're in the Deep South 572 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 6: and LS use a cool college town and you want 573 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 6: to be in a cool area, Okay, I'll take that 574 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 6: over Oxford. But how much of that boxers into like 575 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 6: a forty year old, fifty year old guy. 576 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: Now people get People say Oxford's a great college town. 577 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 6: I'm sure it is. 578 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 4: The Grove. 579 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: Oh man, if you're forty years old, you don't really 580 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: care about a great college town, do you. No, I'm saying, 581 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: if you're asking me if I could have any college 582 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: football job me, I would have a different opinion. I 583 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: would take usc and Texas, and I may take Florida 584 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: third because I like Gainesville. 585 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 6: So let's drill down on Texas. I've never been to Austin, 586 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 6: so I don't know. I can't speak about it. Tell 587 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 6: me what is so awesome about Austin teescas besides Joe 588 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 6: Rogan moved there with a bunch of podcast comedians. 589 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: Well, it's just you're saying. It's like saying somebody's never 590 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: been to London. What makes London so cool? Well, you 591 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: got to go to London to know what London. 592 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 6: Well, London has an amazing history. Austin's like a last 593 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 6: twenty years, it's been amazing, Right Austin wasn't a mecca 594 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 6: in the nineteen eighties. It's a kind of a new 595 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 6: boom town right now. 596 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: No, I think Nashville is the newer boomtown. I think 597 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: Austin's got the River Hill country, the music, the food. 598 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: I think Austin's just probably the best college town out there. 599 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: It's one of the best college towns. That's part of it. 600 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: That's a compelling argument. But it's got no state tax, best, 601 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: best athletic director probably in the country, and it's just 602 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: got an endless reservoir. It's like Amazon if it was 603 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: a college football program. There's just a lot of money always, 604 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: so they've just got a lot of things it's got. 605 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's a little hot in the summer for 606 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: my taste. But it's no state tax, great economy. I mean, 607 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: it's a great place. There's a reason even when they're 608 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,719 Speaker 1: not good recruit Well, it's you take a kid into Austin, 609 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: Texas for the night, or you take a kid. 610 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 6: Do you know, there's a lot of fun sometimes. So 611 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 6: now let's get to the football. Who's more likely to 612 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 6: win sooner? Whoever's coaching in Oregon or whoever's coaching in Austin. 613 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: Well, Texas has advantages, Oh does it? 614 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, Oregon's in the mix every year. 615 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: Oregon's talked in the far left, rainy part of the country. 616 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: If you took Phil Knight out, Oregon would be winning 617 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: six games, seven games a year. 618 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 6: That's if Phil Knight's still there. Nike's in their backyard. 619 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 6: I just think it's easier to win at Oregon by 620 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 6: a mile than LSU. I don't understand why someone would 621 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 6: go LSU over Oregon. I'm a the coach I want 622 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 6: to win. 623 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: Let me ask you, if it's so hard to win 624 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: big then why did for twenty years the SEC crown 625 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: the national champion. Nick Saban didn't seem to have a problem. 626 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: Kirby Smarts don't have a problem. Lane Kiffin turned around 627 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: all miss. You know, if you're a good coach, you 628 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: win games anywhere. That's that's a Kurt Signette. He's crushing 629 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: in the Big ten at Indiana. So I mean, if 630 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: you're confident, it doesn't matter, you're gonna get It's like 631 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: it's almost like the world today. If you're good and 632 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: start a YouTube channel, you don't have to be the network. 633 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: You'll get an audience. If you start a podcast and 634 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: you're fascinating, you'll get an audience. So you can't be 635 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: afraid of Oh my god, we gotta play Georgia. Nick 636 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: Saban played them a lot and won a bunch of natties. Well, 637 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: we gotta play Ohio State. Jim Harbaugh did really well 638 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: with that. At the end. You gotta win games. I'm 639 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: just saying. I mean, the top two teams in the 640 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: country right now are in the Big Ten. There's a 641 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,239 Speaker 1: bunch of good teams. I just watched Alabama struggle this 642 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: past weekend with a totally average team. Yeah, and Alabama 643 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: today doesn't look like Alabama five. 644 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 6: Years ago got a gauntlet of a schedule. Let me 645 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 6: ask you about Clark Lee at Vanderbilt. I know Vanderbilt. 646 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 6: Oh what he's done bringing in players, column with their recruiting. 647 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 6: Who's Felman just did a story on this. I'm just 648 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 6: telling you, I appreciate that what Clark Lee's done at 649 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 6: Vanderbilt than anything that I've seen at LSU from Brian 650 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 6: Kelly the last few years. I mean he's getting four 651 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 6: or five star guys and losing games. Clark Lee at 652 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 6: Vandy winning with like three two and three star players. 653 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 6: When you do more with less, that's when I look 654 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 6: up to you, and I think Clark Lee is a 655 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 6: guy who should probably be You. 656 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: Used to be a writer, a sports writer. 657 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 6: You like stories, you love the amazing you. 658 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: Yeah it is. You like a guy that does more 659 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: with less. I like a guy that does more with more. 660 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: I like Nick Saban at Bama. You like the story 661 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: I like I like the dynasty. 662 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 6: That's okay, I'm an underdog guy. You love heavy favorites. Hey, 663 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 6: what can we say, No elitist, one of us, not me? 664 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: All right? Game five on Fox, Blue Jays, Dodgers, Blake, 665 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: Smell on the Man all take l Ex. You know,