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Speaker 2: Well, living the dream once again here on a fabulous

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Speaker 2: should be. I cannot believe it. Rich, Yeah, we actually

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Speaker 2: have an NBA Finals game tonight. What yes, Yes, today Sunday.

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Speaker 2: So so since we last spoke last Sunday, we've had

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Speaker 2: exactly one game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I had reminders all over my

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Speaker 2: apartment that there's a game on Thursday. Do not forget

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Speaker 2: Game one of the NBA Finals on Thursdays. I had

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Speaker 2: all kinds of reminders.

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Speaker 1: You said, you set your coffee pot to go over

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Speaker 1: everything by warm at five o'clock West Coast time.

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Speaker 2: I had everything to make sure I did not miss

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Speaker 2: Game one at the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now. Had you not disturbed me

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Speaker 1: and told me, hey, we got a show to do

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Speaker 1: and kicked me out of bed, I was having a

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Speaker 1: leisurely morning and said, hey, buddy, we got to do it,

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Speaker 1: and then had this conversation. I wouldn't have even remembered

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Speaker 1: that we didn't finish the NBA season. It's incredible. We

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Speaker 1: get basketball, we get pro basketball. Steve, It's a Christmas miracle.

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Speaker 2: It is a Christmas miracle. Think about this. We've had

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Speaker 2: two games in the NBA in the last two weeks,

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Speaker 2: the clincher for the against the Tea Wolves and glowing,

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Speaker 2: and that's really, you know, a lot of momentum. We

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Speaker 2: will have Game two at the Celtics and the I forgot.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's right, the Mavericks. I forget after their dismal performance.

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Speaker 1: Them eight days, four days.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, yes, yes, now you just heard Monci with

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Speaker 2: the update that all all of a sudden, Luca could

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Speaker 2: be questionable for the game. Can we just end this?

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Speaker 2: I mean serious, I mean people are trying to feign interest.

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Speaker 2: I'm putting this way. We are we are still got.

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Speaker 2: We got more buzz about Kaitlyn Clark being put down

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Speaker 2: on the floor of a game two weeks ago than

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Speaker 2: we are talking about the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 1: Well, because frankly, the NBA, they forgot to play for

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Speaker 1: two weeks, so it's all we've had to talk about

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Speaker 1: basketball related. Is Kennedy Carter knocking Kaitlyn Clark to the floor.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: In reality, though we joke, we're obviously NBA fans. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Steve and I have been obsessed with the sports our

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Speaker 1: whole life. But the deal, the deal with the NBA

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Speaker 1: is they are completely completely mishandling this, this scheduling. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if there's one thing the pandemic taught me was anytime

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Speaker 1: a commissioner or a league says, hey, listen, you know

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Speaker 1: these schedules they get set in stone with the networks,

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Speaker 1: and our hands are tied and there's nothing we could do.

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Speaker 1: A lot of corporate sponsors involved. You get it, guys.

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Speaker 1: So I know you want your basketball. I know you

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Speaker 1: want to see the final. Wasn't our fault that it

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Speaker 1: was a gentleman's sweep in the West and it was

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Speaker 1: a four game sweep in the East. We have a

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Speaker 1: quick wait and then we'll be back right after these messages.

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Speaker 1: And the truth is, the pandemic taught me otherwise. The

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Speaker 1: pandemic taught me that on hours notice, college football teams,

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Speaker 1: the NFL, the NBA at times can cancel and reschedule

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Speaker 1: and logistically figure these things out to where if you

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Speaker 1: did have what ended up being a seven day layoff

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Speaker 1: for the Mavericks, whatever you ended up deeming fair to

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Speaker 1: start the final, you could have started the NBA Finals

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Speaker 1: much sooner, and they should have, because frankly, it was

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Speaker 1: a long wait until Thursday and then watching the Mavericks

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Speaker 1: a little bit more competitive, but we were all watching

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Speaker 1: the Mavericks just lay down that like we waited all

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Speaker 1: that time for that.

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Speaker 2: Well, and the numbers don't lie if you throw out

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty and the twenty one finals. Obviously, with the

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Speaker 2: pandemic and everything else everything that was going on, this

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Speaker 2: was the lowest rated Game one since two thousand and seven.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, to.

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Speaker 2: Put it in further perspective, there were eleven million people

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Speaker 2: that watched on ABC Game one of the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 2: Remember the championship game between South Carolina and Iowa had

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Speaker 2: eighteen million people.

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Speaker 2: Women's college championship game got eighteen million viewers. Game one

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Speaker 2: it doesn't bode well that after a non competitive first game,

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Speaker 2: except for a brief run in that third court, didn't

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Speaker 1: Oh dude.

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Speaker 2: I was like, it was like it was eight and

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Speaker 2: it's like, okay, here come the MAVs, and then you

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Speaker 1: I've been saying this for literally weeks now, because this

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Speaker 1: is how much time we've had to talk about these

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Speaker 1: damn games that are coming up. But it's like I

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Speaker 1: said about the Boston the whole time Boston Celtics, they

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Speaker 1: They were a much better team than everyone in the East,

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Speaker 1: and they showed it. And don't get me wrong, in games,

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Speaker 1: outclassed everyone they've played. I said it also before these

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Speaker 1: think Denver was, and I think Denver got a little complacent.

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Speaker 1: Jamal Murray did not show up for the playoffs this year.

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Speaker 1: earlier in this postseason, and Boston you're seeing what happens

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Speaker 1: They are dialed in. I think this is going to

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Speaker 1: be I said, Boston in five. It wouldn't shock me

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Speaker 2: Well, I take Boston by seven. Everyone else, by the way,

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Speaker 2: a big Dallas to win it all. Five weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: everyone jumped on her bandwagon. Everybody here, Oh dive, I

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Speaker 2: got to go with Boston in this one, and they

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Speaker 2: in NBA Finals history. And we'll see what happens in

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Speaker 2: Game two. But if if you got dodge it to

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Speaker 2: less than one hundred percent, that does not bode well

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Speaker 2: for the Mavericks. Now what's amazing about this is is

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Speaker 2: that you get to the NBA Finals. Yeah, by the way,

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Speaker 2: let's let's back off a little bit for a second

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Speaker 2: here of where the NBA stands. So we were talking

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Speaker 2: fact and we had Mark Medina, our NBA insider, say

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Speaker 2: it perfectly when he was asked about you know now

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Speaker 2: that the NFL is invading the one sacred day for

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Speaker 2: the NBA, which was Christmas Day? Is you know which

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Speaker 2: day does the NBA have? And he who covers the

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Speaker 2: NBA said, let's make this clear. The NFL owns the

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Speaker 2: NBA three hundred and sixty five days a year. Three

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five days a year. But that being set,

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Speaker 2: and this is where we are in the world of sports.

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Speaker 2: the lowest rated game one of the NBA Finals since

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Speaker 2: two thousand and seven. Okay, And yet the network deal

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Speaker 2: In fact, I was talking about this this morning with

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Speaker 2: a couple of members of my family. Were just talking

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Speaker 2: a thousand years ago, sports was very much a niche.

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Speaker 2: all in on sports. Yeah, but not anymore. And in fact,

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Speaker 2: it's survival mode for the networks now that they have

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Speaker 2: to have sports like live sports. It doesn't matter what

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Speaker 2: Birmingham clinched the conference championships. You literally could count the

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Speaker 2: they are actually fewer fans at these games. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: You're putting live sports on TV and it still trumps

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Speaker 2: everything else. So it appear that the NBA is in trouble,

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Speaker 2: are not good numbers for the NBA. They're not. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It's still live sports. And believe me, financially,

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Speaker 2: ever has before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, look, here's here's the reality the world we

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Speaker 1: live in right now. Live sports are king. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you look at the number one ranked or I

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Speaker 1: over the course of every year for the past two

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Speaker 1: some moments where even news stations will ensnare in audience

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Speaker 1: election years, things like that, But overall, it's live sports,

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Speaker 1: and fans have been conditioned to watch ads during live sports.

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Speaker 1: We don't shy away from it. We keep the channel on.

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Speaker 1: They've done studies on this, you know, viewer retention during advertisements.

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Speaker 1: When you're listening to radio show or you're listening to

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Speaker 1: a podcast, people will, you know, find a different station

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Speaker 1: But live sports, for whatever reason, we've all been conditioned

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Speaker 1: to stick around. And that is so important to brands,

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Speaker 1: potential advertisers, and so even though there's less people technically,

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Speaker 1: know what streaming numbers look like. All that stuff. Some

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Speaker 1: of this is proprietary data. But when you look at

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Speaker 1: people are tuning in now for the NBA Finals versus

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Speaker 1: back in the nineties. The nineties dwarf the current ratings. However,

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Speaker 2: Steve, by the way, when people talked about that Caitlin

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Speaker 6: That's how. That's how.

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Speaker 8: analogy as mister Rich here with the pancake.

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00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: That is a Rich special. It always comes up with

430
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 2: a food analogy and it hits, it hits the spot.

431
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree, I want the calin clock pancake. I

432
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 7: don't understand why I can't have.

433
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 2: It doesn't even make sense. We were talking about this

434
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 2: on the commercial.

435
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: We saw it's got the whipped cream and the you know,

436
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: they even put eyebrows on the pancake. I don't. We

437
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: didn't need them. But and then you got the cherry notes,

438
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: and then you walk into the International House of Basketball

439
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: and they say, no pancakes for you. Boy.

440
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: We're making this yesterday, Kelency and I will make this

441
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 2: point right now. The US domination in women's basketball on

442
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 2: the Olympic levels is at the point. Well, you could

443
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: throw almost any twelve women out of the w NBA

444
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: and they still win the gold medal. Yes, So it

445
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 2: wasn't like, wow, if we don't have Diana Tarassi, we

446
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 2: have no shot. Come on, it's almost ceremonial. They might

447
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: as well hand them the goals even before they play

448
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: the games. So why not make a spot the little one?

449
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: Yep?

450
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 7: But Clark, now I'm with you. I agree.

451
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 8: Caitlin Clark has said something about this today.

452
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 7: Here she is. They asked her about it.

453
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 9: I'm excited for the girls that are on the team.

454
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 9: I know it's the most competitive team in the world,

455
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 9: and I know it could have gone either way, maybe

456
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 9: on the team and not being on the team. So

457
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 9: you know, I'm excited for them. I'm gonna be rooting

458
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 9: them on to win gold. I was a kid that

459
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 9: grew up watching the Element, so yeah, it'll be it'll

460
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 9: be fun to watch them.

461
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: As by the media today, here's my question for her, So,

462
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: assuming four years from now she will be part of

463
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 2: the team, will there still be the same buzz for

464
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark four years from now that that is right now?

465
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:55,719
Speaker 2: My guess is no.

466
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 8: Right, you got to you gotta strike while the iron

467
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 8: is hot, and they're not maximizing this opportunity on her.

468
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 8: Coach Christy Sides was also asked about Kaitlyn Clark not

469
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 8: making the Olympic team, and she said that Clark told her, Hey, coach,

470
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 8: they woke a monster.

471
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 7: That that is what Caitlyn Clark told.

472
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 6: Oh, so that's it.

473
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: Well, it was great to see her go off for

474
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: thirty against the winless Mystics. He owned the winless Mystics.

475
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: Now she's got to do it against that was coming

476
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: up for a three point game against the Liberties.

477
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, the two worst teams broke record for the most

478
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 8: people at a WNBA game in seventeen years, Like, come on, guys,

479
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 8: it's we don't have.

480
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 7: To make this stuff up. It's right in front of you.

481
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 2: Seriously, mb orc is carrying the Olympics. You would have

482
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: thought they would just step in and say, look, come on, yeah,

483
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: we need her on this team. It really does.

484
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: Feel like like, you know, look, I have little kids.

485
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 1: I help them with their math homework and occasionally I

486
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: can actually be helpful. Yeah, and everybody's had this feeling,

487
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: if they're a parent, or they're an aunt, or they're

488
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: an uncle or their babysitter at some point in their

489
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: life or something where you're helping a little kid trying

490
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: to understand a concept you already have down and you

491
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: just don't understand. Like oh, they haven't had that light

492
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: bulb moment, Like they don't get it, and like they

493
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: just can't see how easy this is. You just have

494
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: to get there. That's what it feels like with the

495
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: WNBA right now. Yeah, like they the light bulb, just

496
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: they're refusing to even allow the conversation to start to

497
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: have the pole chain of that attic light bulb go on.

498
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: But I hope they I hope it happens soon.

499
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 7: Figure it out.

500
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: Soon, you're squandering this.

501
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 8: It's incredible, it really is, all right, fellas. Game two

502
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 8: of the NBA Finals tips off from Boston a pm

503
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 8: Eastern time.

504
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 7: The Celtics lead the Maps one zero so far.

505
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 8: Luka Doncic now questionable with a thoracic contusion, which is.

506
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 7: Like your chest area.

507
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 8: So yeah, it's like where you're kind of like where

508
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 8: your chest and it ends at your ribs.

509
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 7: But I think it's his back that is specifically in

510
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,719
Speaker 7: that area. But like you know, I'm trying to give

511
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 7: you any word that's.

512
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 2: Up that sounds good, by the way, does not sound good.

513
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 8: He also has a right knee spring and left ankle

514
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 8: soreness that he's been.

515
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 7: Playing through, so we'll see what happens for game two.

516
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 8: Carlos alcraz defeated Alexander Vedev at the French Open in

517
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 8: five sets, twenty one years old, oh my goodness, making

518
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 8: history the youngest ever to win a major on all

519
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 8: three surfaces. He won the US Open, which is hard courts,

520
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 8: he won Wimbledon grass courts, and now the French Open

521
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 8: clay courts. Lots of baseball going on. The Mets did

522
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 8: beat the Phillies in London sixt' five. They split the

523
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 8: two game series. The Rangers are currently beating the Giants

524
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 8: seven to two top of the sixth inning.

525
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 7: The Braves and the Nationals were on a rain delay.

526
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 8: They got things going Atlanta up two zero bottom of

527
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 8: the second. The Twins are beating the Pirates three to

528
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 8: one bottom of the fourth.

529
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 7: The Orioles have added another run.

530
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 8: They're up on the Rais to zero bottom of the

531
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 8: fourth as well. The Cubs started things hot with an

532
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 8: e and half three RBI double in the first inning,

533
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 8: and now they are beating the Reds four zero top

534
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 8: of the third.

535
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 7: Guardians and Marlins tied, I win a piece top of

536
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 7: the fifth.

537
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 8: The Tigers are beating the Brewers at home two zero,

538
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 8: top of the fourth inning, and the Mariners GP Crawford

539
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 8: with another leadoff homer there beating the Royals one zero

540
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 8: bottom of the second inning. Let's check in on Scotty

541
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 8: Scheffler real quick on what he's doing at the Memorial

542
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 8: PGA tournament. He is still in the lead. He is

543
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 8: nine under for the tournament, but he is one over

544
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 8: for today through four holes, so nine under. Adam Hadwin

545
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 8: is now one shot back at eight under. Back to

546
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 8: you gangs, all.

547
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: Right, mind, see, very very good stuff as always. By

548
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: the way, Rich coming up this week. The US opened,

549
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: Yeah for the men at Pinehurst. Of course they by

550
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 2: the way, they moved the Golf Hall of Fame back

551
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: to Pinehurst. When the World Golf Hall of Fame opened

552
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: in the mid seventies, it was at Pinehurst, which is

553
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: sort of considered the cradle of US golf, and then

554
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: it moved down to Florida, and now they moved it

555
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: back to Pinehurst. So and I was talking to our

556
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: resident golf expert, Dan Bayer, and he made a clear

557
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: do not look for anyone to go very low under

558
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: par this week. It's the US Open. That course is

559
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: going to be near impossible, yep. And they have those

560
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: sort of like camelback greens like oh yeah, it's well,

561
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: well like there's a there's a small landing area, but

562
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: if you don't hit the landing area, your ball just

563
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: rolls off the green. So it's going to be highly difficult.

564
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: And they've converted a couple of par fives into par fours.

565
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 2: I look forward to that. And by the way, Tiger's

566
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 2: supposed to be out there by the way. You know,

567
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: he hasn't played in the US Open in three years.

568
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, now that you mention it, I hadn't thought

569
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: about it yet.

570
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: He hasn't played in any US Open. He actually had

571
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: to get a special exemption. Of course, if he wants

572
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: to play, he'll play. But yeah, the first time we'll

573
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: actually see him t off for a US Open championship

574
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: in three years.

575
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh, that's again the game of golf. This

576
00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: is a perfect comparison. When a young black Enam who

577
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 1: was a disruptor who many golfers were uncomfortable with for

578
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: a variety of different reasons, entered the fray, Golf was

579
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: not afraid to highlight him, and even if it was

580
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: going to be a short run, it was gonna be

581
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: a good run because they were going to make him

582
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: a star. And I give a lot of credit to

583
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: the PGA for, you know, leaning into the story way

584
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: or storyline the way they did with Tiger Woods. The

585
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: WNBA could take a couple of notes from PGA Golf

586
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: and say, like, this is how you handle a young

587
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: star who's disrupting. There's a lot of grumpy golfers out

588
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: here on these courses who don't like him. They don't

589
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: like his style play, they don't, you know. I mean,

590
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: they would come after him for the most ridiculous things,

591
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: like he curses too much on the course. It's like, okay,

592
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: I mean, have you ever seen around with VJ. Singh?

593
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: Like it was ridiculous, but it was it was a

594
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: part of the storyline. And Caitlin Clark in the WNBA,

595
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. There's a lot of grumpy players

596
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: who are grouching about how they've been in the dark

597
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: for so long, and you know, and for a variety

598
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: of different reasons, this athlete's getting all the attention. Just

599
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: lean into it. It's gonna make the game better, more interesting.

600
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: When Tiger plays at the US Open, millions of more

601
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: people wise as a result of.

602
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: His and show you so you know, he won that

603
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: US Open in two thousand and eight out of Torrey Pines,

604
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: the famous playoff against Rocko Media, and it was shown

605
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: like they have greatest rounds of golf on the Golf Network,

606
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: And I got caught up watching that actually show the

607
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: final round and then that's when they still had an

608
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: eighteen hole playoff. On Monday, twenty five thousand people called

609
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: in sick apparently down in the San Diego area to

610
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: be out there, and then it even won an extra

611
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: hole because they were still tied after ninety holes of golf,

612
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: and then on the extra hole Tiger finally prevailed. But

613
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: they were just talking about the ratings of Tiger, and

614
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: even on a Monday, you know, and obviously they don't

615
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: have an eighteen old playoffs, just a two hole playoff

616
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: now at the US Open, but the Monday ratings just

617
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: because it was Tiger, by the way, playing on one leg.

618
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: The guy was unbelievad heat. The knee was torn up.

619
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: He not only has to play seventy two as play ninety.

620
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: You could see he struggling, and I forgot watching. They

621
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: really had a tough setup that Hera at Torrey Pines.

622
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: You know, they were just trying to break par barely

623
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: and you could see and he got frustrated with some

624
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: bad shots. He didn't play great. RockA Media was a

625
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: journeyman golfer at best. Yeah, but he was sort of

626
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: hanging in a hope for a hole. But you just again,

627
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: you're reminded again when you have the good fortune in

628
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: any sport to have that star that transcends the sport

629
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: that goes beyond just being a golf star, and you

630
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: don't take full advantage of that, Shame.

631
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 6: On you, Gilz.

632
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.

633
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: This is an opportunity that literally has fallen into the

634
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: lap of the WNBA and they haven't figured this thing out.

635
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 2: And in fact, when you think about it, yeah, right now,

636
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: the biggest story about Kaitlin Clark is being put down

637
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 2: on the floor by Kennedy Carter.

638
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: Like.

639
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 2: That's still this story. By the way, normally a story

640
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: like that would be gone in twenty four hours. In

641
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: our twenty four hours, they're still talking about this.

642
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 6: It's over a week later.

643
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: And again it's because I think I don't know what

644
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: I think about the WNBA and the way the league

645
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: is managed from a pr standpoint, or what's going on

646
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Speaker 1: behind the scenes. But look, if I'm the NBA and

647
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: the WNBA is a subsidy of my league and I'm

648
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: watching this, I don't know how much longer I go

649
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 1: before we're having big time like backroom corporate board meetings

650
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: where we're like, hey, listen, you guys are brutally mishandling this.

651
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: We need to fix the messaging amongst the players. I mean,

652
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: And then I don't know. I mean, maybe that's the

653
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: wrong way to go. Maybe if you're as blunt as

654
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: telling the players like, hey, you know, you guys are

655
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 1: trying to suffocate the Golden goose right now, and maybe

656
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: that leaks and then that's a bad look for the

657
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: WNBA two. But you gotta do something. You gotta change

658
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: the paradigm here. I'm not saying anybody has to take

659
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: it easy on Caitlyn Clark. In fact, Caitlyn Clark all

660
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: the news is about her. All she says is the

661
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: right thing. She doesn't want anybody to take it easy

662
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: on her either. She understands basketball. It is a physical,

663
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: competitive game. That was a physical play, you know she.

664
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean, she was talking about Kennedy Carter like she

665
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: was a basketball player, not like she was some villain

666
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: in this scheme like the rest of the media has

667
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: been or taking Kennedy Carter's side, depending on what side

668
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: drew on. But I digress to get back to the

669
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: original point, you gotta find a way to welcome more

670
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: people under the tent instead of gatekeeping your league, because

671
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: that's what golf did and they've benefited. The golfers have

672
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: benefited in the in the to the tune of millions

673
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: upon millions upon.

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00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: Do you think that live golf would have ever happened

675
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: without Tiger Woods?

676
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, not a million years.

677
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Speaker 2: No what all right? Coming up on the other side,

678
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: I want to write a wrong to most of the

679
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 2: men listening out there right now, and I think Rich

680
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: is gonna help us. He has no idea what I'm

681
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: talking about, but he never does. We'll explain. This is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 2: Steve Hartman and Rich Harberger Fox Sports Sunday. We are

688
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Speaker 2: live from the tai Iraq dot com studios. Rich, I

689
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: want to get to this. We get a short segment here,

690
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: but I want to talk about next Sunday.

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Speaker 1: All right.

692
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: The holiday is known as Father's Day, sort of the

693
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 2: middle child of holidays that completely gets ignored every single year.

694
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: What I want to do here, Rich, is normally like

695
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: if it was Mother's Day, we're already like a month

696
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: in advance, already trying to figure it out. Right, Father's

697
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: Day is such an afterthought and I don't knock my

698
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: children or my ex or anybody else. It just it's

699
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: the nature of the holiday. I guess at some point

700
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 2: they figured, well, if we're gonna have a Mother's Day,

701
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: we need to have a Father's Day. And it really

702
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: just has not worked out, I think, as originally planned.

703
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 2: So but if we're giving you a heads up for

704
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: a week, I'm gonna let Rich because Rich is really

705
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: good at holidays and you know, preparing the proper, you know,

706
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: day for dad to be celebrated. Rich, what would you say,

707
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: I mean, how how will you spend your Father's Day

708
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: outside of being on the radio, And how should Father's

709
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: Day be celebrated? According to Rich Hornberger.

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00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm glad you asked me. So every

711
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: Father's Day asks for the same exact thing, and it's

712
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: gotten actually easier as the kids have gotten older, because

713
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: they can help out a little bit. It's breakfast in bed.

714
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: I think if there's one thing that dads, you know,

715
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: there's something about as you get older and you become

716
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: a father, there's something about being the first one awake

717
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: in the house that seems synonymous among all of my

718
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 1: friends who are now you know, making families and their

719
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: young dads themselves, or as you get older you realize,

720
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, even even as you know your kids leave

721
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: the nest, you're still the early riser in your house.

722
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: And there are certain jobs. Now, don't get me wrong,

723
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: I mean from a gender standpoint, there are plenty of

724
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: women who mow their lawn, you know, But I feel

725
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: like a lot of times that lands on the dad's lapping,

726
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: so that a lot of times is an early morning

727
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: activity and want to get out of the way before

728
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: you know, you get busy barbecuing or whatever you want

729
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: to do with your your Sunday. And so I feel

730
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: like when a dad, the expectation is that he's going

731
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: to be the first one out of bed every day

732
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: and he's going to get the day started for the family.

733
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: Then it would be nice, you know, little breakfast in bed,

734
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: and that's what the kids do.

735
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 2: I usually ask, well, your sons are getting a little

736
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: bit older now eight and five. It's not like when

737
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: they were four and one. Okay, oh yeah, it's right,

738
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 2: So they better come up with something here. Yeah, I mean,

739
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: even if mom is having them bringing in the breakfast

740
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 2: for dad.

741
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: Usually I requested the boys listen on father's take, Could

742
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: you just please be nice to your mom? Do whatever she.

743
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: Hass Okay, well that's part of it. It's like, by

744
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: the way, I still say that to my sons and

745
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: they're twenty seven and twenty six, so I mean, you know,

746
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: it's that that never changes. But yeah, just as I

747
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: always say, you know, simplify things. Yes, don't complicate your

748
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: life any further. Just go with the flow. But I

749
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: would hope for all the dads listening out there that

750
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: next Sunday your family does something that befits the job

751
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 2: you've been doing as dad provider, whatever you know, maybe

752
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: you're stay at home down, whatever your role is as

753
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: a dad. I'm sure the overwhelming majority of you are

754
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: trying your hardest to be the best dad you could be,

755
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 2: and you should be recognized for the efforts.

756
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: That's right, So.

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00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: Please, I just wanted to give you a week's heads

758
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: up on this thing, so we're not like, oh, by

759
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: the way, everybody, for god, today's Father's Day. Next Sunday,

760
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: all right? Coming up on the other side, we're going

761
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: to get back to these NBA finals. Are we going

762
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 2: to see a series or not keep it air? This

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Speaker 2: look at the calendar, today is June ninth. We've had

771
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 2: two NBA games since May twenty eighth. Wow, two final

772
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: game of the series between the t Wolves and the

773
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: Mavericks in Game one of the NBA Finals. That's it.

774
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: Two games since May twenty eighth. So we're reminding you

775
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 2: again about Father's Day coming up next Sunday. We're doing

776
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: a reminder. We still have the NBA Finals going on, okay,

777
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: and game we're reminding people, reminding people there actually is

778
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: a Game two coming up tonight, still in Boston a

779
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: TV garden, and of course the Celtics putting the hurt

780
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 2: on the Mavericks in that game. One one seven to

781
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: eighty nine was the final score. It was a weird

782
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 2: game because they just blew the game open early. Dallas

783
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: made a brief run in the third quarter, and in

784
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 2: a blinket of eye, it was back up to twenty points.

785
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at all these numbers from game one,

786
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 2: and as as Monsei's been telling you in the updates,

787
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: Luca is not one hundred percent. I'm sure he'll play it,

788
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: just we don't know, you know, what kind of condition

789
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: he's going to be in. There were two stats that

790
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: really that really jumped out of me from Game one.

791
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: One of them was the fact that the Celtics outrebounded

792
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 2: the Mavericks by ten in the first quarter when they

793
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: built their seventeen point lead, said they were dominant on

794
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: the boards. And the second stat was this, the Mavericks

795
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 2: had thirty five field goal attempts made in Game one,

796
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 2: they only had nine assists. Luca had one one assist,

797
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: and he're like this, I mean, this guy's like, you know,

798
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: a triple double machine. One assist for an entire game.

799
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: None of this bodes well for the Mavericks in this series.

800
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: But let's just get back to the idea. As we

801
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: came into this series, everyone's talking about Don Chicchen and

802
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 2: Kyrie and the you know, the the greatest scoring duo

803
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: and backcourt ever that we've seen, ignoring you know, Stephen

804
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: Clay and everything else. A, this is not a great

805
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: defensive team. And B outside of Kyrie and Luca, what

806
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: he got PJ Washington, Gafford, Lively.

807
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you got.

808
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 2: On this team that is going to be necessary to

809
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: step up when you're taking on a Celtic team that

810
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: is not just Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown. You got Holiday,

811
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: you got White, you got Horford. Oh, and then Porsinger

812
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: scores twenty points in twenty one minutes. When you really

813
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 2: look at this match up, it is a mismatch. It is,

814
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: and you predicted, by the way, I got to give

815
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: you credit. You were the first one I heard here

816
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio saying not only are the Celtics

817
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: going to win this series, the MAVs will be fortunate

818
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 2: to win a game in this series.

819
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, they're just outclassed here. And I think you

820
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: laid it out perfectly there. And I'll add to the

821
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: fact that I really don't think the Mavericks put together

822
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: a good enough plan to handle Porzingis's return because I think,

823
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, and I don't know if this was scripted,

824
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: if this was a conversation that Jason Kidd had with Kyrie,

825
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: or if this is Kyrie freelancing, or if this is

826
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: something that was planned from the jump. But the amount

827
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: of times that Luca and Kyrie had the ball in

828
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: their hands and they weren't looking for the best available shot,

829
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: they were looking for their shot, I don't think they

830
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't think they factored in the fact that Porzingis

831
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 1: is actually an improved defender in this league, especially compared

832
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: to when he entered the league with the New York

833
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: Knicks years ago. He was a defensive liability, There's no

834
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: question about it. His length gave him obviously some prominence

835
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: in the paint, but he was an offensive scorer, and

836
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 1: that's the reason why I was drafted. He's developed, though,

837
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: over time, into more of a defensive presence, and I

838
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: think that there was no plan for that, and there

839
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: was no adjustment for that. And Kyrie Irving along with Luca,

840
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: had his lowest or one of his lowest assist performances

841
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: on the NBA Playoffs himself, and so it just from

842
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: the jump, you knew it was going to be a

843
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: situation where those two guys had to play excellent in

844
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: order for this team to have a chance in any

845
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: of these games. But then you also have to rely

846
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: on role players being involved, and the two of them

847
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: really didn't allow role players to be involved because there

848
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: were better shots left on the court that Kyrie just

849
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: he couldn't see. And you know, Porzingis had three blocks,

850
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 1: that doesn't tell the whole defensive story. For the twenty

851
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: minutes he was on the court for he probably affected

852
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: another handful. And so when you're talking about eight baskets,

853
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: eight opportunities that the Dallas Mavericks had to score that

854
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: Porzingis alone was involved in, it just doesn't vote well.

855
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: It was a good defensive effort by the Boston Celtics.

856
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: It was a rough night offensively for the Mavericks. I

857
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: don't know if we're going to see a game that lopsided,

858
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: but I will say this, I kind of I said

859
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: this yesterday. I kind of feel like, while this series

860
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: is in Boston, I think it's the it's gonna be

861
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: a low scoring series. I don't see this game. I

862
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: don't see the roof being blown off at TV Guarden

863
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: tonight either, And I think maybe the offense will start

864
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: to open up more for Dallas when they get in

865
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: front of their home fans can shake this off a

866
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: little bit because I forecast them being in a two

867
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: to zero hole with this series goes to Dallas, and

868
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 1: I think that what they're going to need is circle

869
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: the wagons and have a big night offensively to get

870
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: their crowd into the game and have even a shot

871
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: of taking one game from the Celtics.

872
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: All Right, I preface this statement by telling everybody listening

873
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: out there that if you don't already know this, I'm

874
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: a Celtics hater. Okay, I I mean nineteen sixteen, I

875
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 2: was in fifth grade when Bill Russell in his last

876
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: season with the Celtics, they upset the Lakers of Wilt Chamberlain,

877
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: Jerry West, Elgin Baylor in the finals. I haven't shaken

878
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: this from it. I'm still hurting from that, Okay. So

879
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: this is but one player in this league that I

880
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: continue to sort of ride the fence on is Jason Tatum.

881
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: He's made first Team All NBA each of the last

882
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: three years. Yeah, and with him in a Celtics uniform,

883
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: they've been at least to the Eastern Conference Finals six times.

884
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: So he's had an impact. Game One was another one

885
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: of those interesting games for Jason Tatum. He scored only

886
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: sixteen points, just six of sixteen from the field, and

887
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: he had six turnovers in the game. And you know,

888
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 2: so this has been the knock on Tatum as great

889
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 2: as he's been, is that in some of the bigger games.

890
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 2: Of course, we all remember the Eastern Conference Finals last year.

891
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 2: Remember the Celtics are down three to out of the heat,

892
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you know, they went three in

893
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: a row. It's like they're going to be the first

894
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: team ever to come over at three to zero deficit.

895
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: And then he gets hurt at the beginning of the game. Yeah,

896
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: played through, had a bad game. They get blown out

897
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: a home by Miami. But here's one thing I will

898
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: say about Tatum in this first game, and this reminded

899
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: me of Game seven of the NBA Finals in twenty

900
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 2: ten when the Lakers beat the Celtics, and Kobe Bryant

901
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 2: in that game was six out of twenty four shooting.

902
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 2: He was awful. It was one of the worst games

903
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: I've ever been eyewitnessed to, just the way the game

904
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: was played. It was ug lee, but he had fifteen

905
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: rebounds in that game, and in this game won Tatum

906
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: had eleven rebounds and he had five assists. And it

907
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 2: reminds me again of a certain maturity in your game.

908
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 2: And Tatum, by the way, has talked about this. You know,

909
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: not everybody's going to be red hot every night, in fact,

910
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: nobody is. But if your shots not falling, you got

911
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: to find other ways to have an impact on the game.

912
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: And I'm watching Tatum's game. He acknowledged after the game

913
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: when he was asked about you know, he pointed out

914
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 2: the turnovers. You know, I can't do that again, six turnovers.

915
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 2: Got to shoot better, but eleven rebounds. There are other

916
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: ways plus defense obviously, So that to me is the

917
00:49:54,960 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 2: sign of a star player who is still working on

918
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 2: his game to get better, knowing that you know, the

919
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 2: shot will come and go. But if I don't have

920
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 2: my shot, you know, those knights when I can't miss.

921
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: We've seen that from Tatum or he puts up ridiculous numbers.

922
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: But on the nights when you're not hitting, how else

923
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 2: can you contribute? And I saw that in Game one

924
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 2: with Jason Tim I was impressed. I mean, I'm starting

925
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: to come around now. Is Tatum really elite, and I'm

926
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: going to guess there's gonna be a couple of games

927
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: in the series where he's going to put up thirty

928
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: forty points, but he's already shown me that he has

929
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 2: that ability to adjust his game to do what's necessary

930
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 2: because it is a team sport to get his team

931
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: over the top.

932
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: I love that you brought that up because I had

933
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: a couple of coaches, in different ways pass along some

934
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: of the greatest advice any athlete will receive. And so

935
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: if you're a dad with your kid right now on

936
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: your way to a baseball practice or soccer or whatever

937
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: sport you're playing, or you know, if you have a

938
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: second to sit down with a young athlete who's in

939
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: ortant to you in his life, in his life, and

940
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 1: you're a mentor of any sort, control the control bulls.

941
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: There are so many things that are outside your control

942
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: in life, and sports is one hundred percent a microcosm

943
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: of life. It so oftentimes unfair attention will be played

944
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: to people that may not deserve the attention for the behavior,

945
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: but it's a product of circumstance. Maybe you know their

946
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: dad is the coach, or when you get to the NBA.

947
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 1: Maybe they were a first a first overall draft pick

948
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: to your franchise, and even though you're a better, more

949
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: hard working player, they're the media hype, the media darling,

950
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: and they're going to take the bows and control the

951
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: control bulls. Delete from your mind anything that you can't

952
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: impact yourself, and then you're going to be a better athlete.

953
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 1: You're going to be a better teammate. So you're absolutely

954
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: right those games where your SHOT's not falling, instead of

955
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: being upset because whatever it is, maybe it could be

956
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: some you bruise your finger at practice and nobody's ever

957
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: gonna know about it, but it happened. It happened to you.

958
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: You jammed your finger. You know, the shots not falling

959
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: for you, whatever it is, control the control bills. Outwork

960
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: your your defender to the basketball, Get a couple of

961
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: those offensive rims, you know, on the defensive side of

962
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: the court, shut down the you know, whoever you're guarding,

963
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 1: and whatever it is, be perfect on your switches. Do

964
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: what you can to impact the game another way, because

965
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: that one aspect it's not going to be the full

966
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: characterization of your performance. And I'm actually appreciative of some

967
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: of the advanced metrics that are being used in basketball

968
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: now because it used to be the three big stat

969
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, the points, score, rebounds, assists, and now we

970
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: have so many other categories. You know, your your defensive efficiency,

971
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: you know the the plus minus. I think that matters

972
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,479
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum. He was he's added value to the court

973
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: in Game one because like you said, one aspect of

974
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: his game was failing him. He didn't allow it to

975
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: ruin the game. He had a good game himself. He

976
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: showed some leadership, he showed some grit. And by the way, postgame,

977
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: when he got to the podium, Jason Tatum wasn't messing around.

978
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: That audio of him asking one of the reporters who

979
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: asked him a question about He was like, is the

980
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: job done? And he was like, are you asking me?

981
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,479
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm asking you, is the job done?

982
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: And he goes no, and he goes Job's not done?

983
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: And like I thought it was great. I thought it

984
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: was great because he's locked in, he's focused. The only

985
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: thing that matters to Jason Tatum right now is winning

986
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. And that's a dangerous man because you

987
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 1: could tell he's blocking out all of the distractions right now.

988
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: Believe me that ring matters, That ring matters, That ring matters.

989
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: If you're a star player in whatever sport, it is

990
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: a team sport, and your mind is the ring. You're

991
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: not in the conversation. You'll be recognized for greatness, but

992
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 2: you're not in the conversation without a ring in a

993
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: teen sport. All right. Coming up on the other side,

994
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 2: we're gonna switch to the NFL for a moment and

995
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: one of the most bizarre stories that has come out

996
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 2: in recent memory, we'll tell you about it. This is

997
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. Good choice, there, Chris, Steve Harbin, and

998
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 2: rich Armerger. Here, Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from

999
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 2: the tire rack dot Com studios. All right, this is

1000
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 2: been a story over the last few days that has

1001
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 2: taken on so many different directions. Rich, we're talking about

1002
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs, who's now a Green Bay Packer, the former Raider,

1003
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 2: appearing on Chris Long's show The Former Eagle, in which

1004
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 2: he said, and if you don't know this, and this

1005
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 2: is another story we could go all day on, like

1006
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: why are the Packers and the Eagles opening their season

1007
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: in Brazil?

1008
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: All right?

1009
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 2: That's that's a whole another story we're going to get to.

1010
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 2: All right, Let's let's hear a little of this audio

1011
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 2: right now. This was Josh Jacobs, now a Green Bay Packer,

1012
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 2: talking about this opening game between the Packers and the Eagles,

1013
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 2: that it's going to be played in Brazil with Chris Long.

1014
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 4: You're going to open the season against my Eagles down

1015
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 4: in Brazil, Man, what are you most excited about?

1016
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: You know? They said that the part of Brazil were

1017
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: going so you can't even wear green at really? Yeah? Why?

1018
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: They said, Like, I guess something to do with the

1019
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 2: gangs and stuff.

1020
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: Dude, I'm not going. I'm not going. They said, we're

1021
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: not going to Rio.

1022
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 4: We're going to they said, they told us. They was like, man,

1023
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 4: it's one of them places where they probably won't even

1024
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 4: let us leave a full team.

1025
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: Damn, I'm not going. No what color? Yeah? What college?

1026
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 4: How is they probably gonna have like armored vehicles following them?

1027
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 2: I said, bro, why are we out here?

1028
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 4: I'm picture that Josh Jacob's like hanging out on the beat, right,

1029
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 4: But it doesn't sound like that kind of trip.

1030
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 7: I was looking forward to it.

1031
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, we're about to be It's about to

1032
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 3: be a fun week he got telling us all of that.

1033
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: They're like he had Nah, it's not going to like

1034
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: yeah right, so cancel that trip. We're good, all right?

1035
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 2: So all hell broke Lewis after this interview that Josh

1036
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 2: Jacobs had with Chris song Now, Rich, I don't want

1037
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 2: to say anything. I want to bring Chris in on

1038
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: this story. Sure, because Chris uh is all over this thing.

1039
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 2: One he knows the world of soccer better than you

1040
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 2: and I do.

1041
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: Uh.

1042
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 2: And secondly, he understands why there may have been some

1043
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 2: confusion on the bart of Josh Jacobs. But we need

1044
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 2: to separate reality from fiction. So Chris explain again to

1045
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: our listeners out there, because you you actually had a

1046
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: step in yesterday on a number of shows. I start

1047
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: of jumped all of this before I got into the

1048
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: story because Chris actually had to I don't know correct

1049
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: some of the this has bends on some of the

1050
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 2: other shows here on foxforth. It's a sexy story.

1051
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 10: I mean it's it's a sexy story on its face,

1052
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 10: like ooh, the NFL might have done something bad and

1053
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 10: going down into gangland Brazil and it's not the Rio

1054
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 10: part of Brazil.

1055
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 2: First off, sal Paolo has beaches too, right, Like, let's

1056
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 2: by the way, literally one of the most populated cities

1057
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 2: on the planet.

1058
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 10: Yes, a lot of people in salth Paula. It used

1059
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 10: to be one of the largest. I think it's been

1060
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 10: surpassed in a couple of places in China, maybe Tokyo,

1061
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 10: but it's still one of the largest cities on the

1062
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 10: planet out there. But this whole Green thing is very weird.

1063
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 10: I had actually heard about this when the schedule at

1064
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 10: least came out. So the real story on the Green

1065
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 10: has nothing to do with gangs. And for the record,

1066
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 10: I don't think they're gonna have armored convoys like it's

1067
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 10: Siicario out here. They weren't even want to leave the hotels.

1068
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 10: What he was trying to say, I don't know about

1069
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 10: the security arrangements. I can't speak on that. For the

1070
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 10: Eagles and Packers, I don't think it's going to be

1071
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 10: that bad. But like any multimillion dollar athlete in a

1072
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 10: unfamiliar country, you're going to have to take extra precautions.

1073
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 10: But in this case Green So where they're playing it

1074
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 10: is called Arena Corinthians or Neo Kimika Arena. It is

1075
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 10: a soccer stadium built in twenty fourteen for the club Corinthians,

1076
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 10: who is a club of one hundred and ten years

1077
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 10: play soccer.

1078
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: Wow.

1079
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 10: They wear black and white. It's a long standing, very

1080
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 10: successful club, twenty million fans worldwide. For Corinthians, it's a

1081
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 10: huge deal. They have a crosstown rival in sal Paulo

1082
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 10: by the name of Paul Maras. Now Paul Maris's colors

1083
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 10: are green and white. They wear green jerseys, white pants.

1084
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 10: When they're away they swap the colors between them, but

1085
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 10: they are always going green. So Corinthians, in the spirit

1086
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 10: of that rivalry, which is very intense, they have a

1087
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 10: ban in their stadium on the color green. If you

1088
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 10: are a fan and you show up, you are not

1089
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 10: to have green anywhere on your body. They're fans try

1090
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 10: to make sure that, to make sure that they control

1091
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 10: their stadium, there's no green allowed. In fact, there was

1092
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 10: once upon a time a player, a Brazilian player, who

1093
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 10: is fined by the club Corinthians themselves because he wore

1094
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 10: green cleats on the field at one point. This is

1095
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 10: where the green part comes from. Now, does that mean

1096
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 10: that the Eagles and Packers won't wear green? No, as

1097
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 10: I said, this stadium was built for the twenty fourteen

1098
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 10: World Cup, which means that Brazil has played in it

1099
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 10: and also played some games around the Olympics. And Brazil

1100
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 10: wears green in their jerseys. So this is just for Corinthians.

1101
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 10: It's not a gang thing. It's not even like a

1102
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 10: crazy soccer fan thing. Outside of that context, people are

1103
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 10: smart enough and understand that the Eagles and Packers are

1104
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 10: something completely different. Now, the Eagles are the home team

1105
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 10: and I don't think they've said whether they will wear

1106
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 10: green or black yet, so there is at least a

1107
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,479
Speaker 10: chance for them to honor the Corinthians ban on green,

1108
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 10: but they don't need.

1109
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 2: To, okay with jerseys, so that but green is a

1110
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 2: subject matter to be discussed there. Yes, why would you

1111
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: have of all matchups the Eagles and the Packers, and

1112
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 2: again question have like the Chiefs and the Cardinals, you know,

1113
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 2: a couple of red team.

1114
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 6: Why would you why this wouldn't.

1115
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: Even conversation had you not matched up two teams that

1116
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 2: predominant colors are green. It is a scene in a

1117
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: matchup where green actually is a subject man in many

1118
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: soccer arenas across Brazil. You chose the one you chose

1119
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 2: the one with the standing of a green band.

1120
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: Let me, I'll jump in and lend some perspective because

1121
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: I know what Josh Jacobs is talking about, and I

1122
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: know why he's talking about it. So during OTAs, because

1123
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: this is going to happen fast for the Green Bay

1124
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: Packers and the Philadelphia Eagles both During OTAs, you have

1125
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: some time on your hands, you know, and you have

1126
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: access to almost the full team during the non mandatory

1127
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: part of the OTAs, and then you have the whole

1128
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: team for the mandatory and depending on the team, you

1129
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: have a higher percentage during different parts of the season

1130
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: what they did undoubtedly because they know come training camp time,

1131
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: you know, the focus is going to be on building

1132
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: the best football team they possibly can and getting ready

1133
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: for the three preseason games and getting ready to make

1134
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: decisions on the roster and all those things. They don't

1135
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: want to have the distraction of having some experts come

1136
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: and talk to the team. But this is what happened.

1137
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: I guarantee it. There were probably some former federal agents

1138
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: or former international conflict investigators who came down or active

1139
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: by the way, who came down to both of these

1140
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: teams training facilities and had a long talk with them

1141
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: about what is going to be allowed for them to

1142
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: do and what is going to be disallowed for them

1143
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: to do while they're there. And the reason why you

1144
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: bring in an outside voice is because you want from

1145
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: an NFL standpoint, you want to convey the level of

1146
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: interest they have in keeping you safe. Now, is South Paolo,

1147
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: Brazil a safe place to vacation. Yeah, I'm sure it's

1148
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: a safe place to vacation. But is it a great

1149
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:21,439
Speaker 1: idea to send Oh, I don't know, something like at

1150
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: that point in the season, it'll be one hundred and

1151
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: ten eager twenty two to twenty eight thirty year old

1152
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: men down to sal Polow to party for a week

1153
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 1: leading up to the game that they have to play

1154
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: against each other.

1155
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 2: The answer is no, with a lot of money on

1156
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 2: them exactly.

1157
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: So they're trying to put the fear of God into

1158
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: these players and they did it.

1159
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 9: So.

1160
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, the conversation about the quote unquote gangs or the

1161
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: soccer team, maybe some parts of that wasn't interpreted appropriately

1162
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: or accurately by Josh Jacobs. But guess what the message

1163
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: of staying your hotel and don't wander off the beaten

1164
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: path you're representative of the NFL and these teams that

1165
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: you're playing for, and we don't want to hear about

1166
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: any conflict that occurred in a bar or, etc. Etc.

1167
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: It worked because Josh Jacobs has the fear of God

1168
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: in him. He was like, Yeah, I thought we were

1169
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: going down there. We're gonna be able to enjoy the beaches.

1170
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: It looks like we're gonna have an armored card convoy.

1171
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: And it's because they don't want these young men just

1172
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: like Vikings, raiding a village and you know, having as

1173
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: much fun as they possibly can in South Paulow, which,

1174
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: by the way, I've never been, but from pictures and

1175
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: video seems like a pretty easy place to have some

1176
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: fun if you're a young man with a lot of

1177
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: money and maybe some fame. That's probably exactly what happened.

1178
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, And unfortunately now it probably worked too well, Rich

1179
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 10: because now this is out in the wild, because we

1180
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 10: have access to these players, and Josh Jacobs went out

1181
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 10: here and said this, and now the NFL is probably

1182
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 10: rightly so spooked that what Josh Jacobs said, and and

1183
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 10: aj Brown reacted to you on Twitter as well, It's like,

1184
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 10: why are we going down to play this then is

1185
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 10: now going to scare away a lot of NFL fans

1186
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 10: who we're going to make a trip from to Salpaula

1187
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 10: being like, oh my god, this sounds dangerous. This sounds

1188
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 10: like I shouldn't be going down there in Mike, Kelly,

1189
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 10: green this Jersey at all.

1190
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 2: How many people, seriously does the NFL expect out of

1191
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 2: Philadelphia and Green Bay to make the trip to Brazil

1192
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 2: for this game?

1193
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I'm not guessing they're hoping for. Look,

1194
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: I know they're hoping for some of the domestic fans

1195
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: to make the trip, and I do think that there's

1196
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: going to be a larger number than maybe we'd even

1197
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: expect going down to make the trip. However, I think

1198
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: the most important thing for the NFL is breaking into

1199
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: markets that they don't currently have.

1200
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 2: Right, hold that thought, right, hold hold that thought, because

1201
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: I definitely want to get to that on the other side.

1202
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 2: But first, let's find out what is trending right now. So, Manse,

1203
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 2: you and I got the Chris treatment yesterday, very similar

1204
01:04:59,280 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 2: right there?

1205
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, yes, we did a just yeah, enlightening all the

1206
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 8: masses with information.

1207
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, No, I'm trying not to be annoying about it.

1208
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 7: I just why did I say that that you were annoying?

1209
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 8: Oh?

1210
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 2: No, no, I'm not.

1211
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 10: It's not I feel like I feel like the way

1212
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 10: Steve has been portraying me, it's Steve's fault here. Steve's

1213
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 10: portraying me as the as the guy going around being like,

1214
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 10: actually it's sucker.

1215
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, because people don't know the actual information.

1216
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 2: Are you accusing me of twisting your words? Because that's nothing.

1217
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: I never do that, Danny, No, No, just twisting. Ever, well, I'll.

1218
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: Tell you what. And also, by the way, just from

1219
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: now until forever, if we're all working together and doing

1220
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 1: a radio it's always Steve's fault.

1221
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: It is that I'm working on that principle. At this

1222
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 2: point in my career, I can take that.

1223
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 7: I've learned. Yes, always Steve's fault.

1224
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 8: Is it Steve's fault that Luka Doncic is now a

1225
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 8: listed is questionable.

1226
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 2: For Game two of the but he's not healthy.

1227
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 8: No, this is making me, yeah, and not feel good

1228
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 8: about my decision, since not only the right knee spring

1229
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 8: and left ankle soreness that we have been hearing about,

1230
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 8: he has a thoracic contusion which is in the chest Area.

1231
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 8: Game two of the NBA Finals tips off from Boston

1232
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 8: at eight pm Eastern Time with the Celtics leading the

1233
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 8: Mavericks one zero. In this series, let's chick in on baseball.

1234
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 8: We got a lot of baseball going on. Some games

1235
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 8: have wrapped up, like the one in London where the

1236
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:25,919
Speaker 8: Mets came back to beat the Phillies six to five

1237
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 8: and the Rangers outscore the Giants seven to two to

1238
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 8: avoid the sweep. Right now, it's the Nationals who are

1239
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 8: beating the Braves seven to two. They scored seven runs

1240
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 8: in the fourth inning. The Twins and the Pirates are

1241
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 8: tied at four a piece. Bottom of the sixth inning,

1242
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 8: the Rays on the scoreboard, but the Oils are still

1243
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 8: on top three to two. Bottom of the six Rats

1244
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 8: on the scoreboard as well, but the Cubs are still

1245
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 8: on top four to one, and they're about to start

1246
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 8: the seventh inning. The Guardians have just taken the lead

1247
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 8: over the Marlins five to two.

1248
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 7: Top of the eighth.

1249
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 8: The Tigers are beating the Brewers ten zero. It's the

1250
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 8: top of the seventh inning. They scored eight runs in

1251
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 8: the fifth. In Yeah, and then the White Sox trying

1252
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,479
Speaker 8: to get a little winning streak going.

1253
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 7: They're beating the.

1254
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 8: Red Sox three to two, top of the fifth inning,

1255
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 8: a tie game between the Mariners and the Royals, now

1256
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 8: one one top of the sixth inning, and the Cardinals

1257
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 8: are beating the Rockies four zero, bottom of the fifth.

1258
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 7: Scottie Scheffler still in.

1259
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 8: The lead at the Memorial PGA Tournament, nine hunder par overall.

1260
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 8: He has won over for the day through eight holes.

1261
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 8: Adam Hadwin still just one shot back. And in case

1262
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,919
Speaker 8: you missed it, we have a winner at the French Open.

1263
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 8: Carlos alcraz from Spain defeated Alexander Vede from Germany in

1264
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 8: five sets.

1265
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 7: Back to you.

1266
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 2: Guys, Yeah, I want to mention that Alcarez win and

1267
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 2: put some perspective on it a little bit later on

1268
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 2: it later, Thank you so much. Yeah, all right, Mon's

1269
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 2: great stuff. As always. Once again, you're listening to Fox

1270
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. And all right, let's get back to the

1271
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 2: idea of the fact that the NFL has decided to

1272
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: match up two playoff teams, the Packers and the Eagles.

1273
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 2: So it's a big game for both these teams to

1274
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 2: get the season off on a good start. In Brazil,

1275
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 2: sal Paulo, Brazil, And I'm just you know, it's one

1276
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 2: thing when we got the Jacksonville Jaguars playing games in

1277
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 2: London because they're not in the conversation. But to have

1278
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 2: a premier game like this in Brazil, why.

1279
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: Well, they want to break into whys again? Why money? Money?

1280
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 2: It always look don't they have enough money? No? No,

1281
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 2: of course they don't.

1282
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: As long as they don't have it all, then there's

1283
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: more that can be gained.

1284
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 2: And that's This is not the NBA where they need

1285
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 2: to feed off China. This is not Major League Baseball,

1286
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 2: where international means something to the finance of the sport.

1287
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 2: The NFL doesn't need a dime from another. And they're

1288
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 2: still lapping everybody in terms of money that's being funneled

1289
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: into this list.

1290
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 10: They're not competing against them, they're competing against FIFA at

1291
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 10: this point. They're not content on being number two to

1292
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 10: soccer in the world, right now, That's exactly it.

1293
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: All right.

1294
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 2: So you think Brazil, where soccer is you know in

1295
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 2: everyone's blood, is gonna dump that for American football.

1296
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,799
Speaker 1: No, But I can tell you where they can make headway.

1297
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 1: They can make headway as the number two most viewed

1298
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 1: national sport in all these different countries that they're trying

1299
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 1: to become more of a touchstone in or maybe the

1300
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: number three most watch sport. Like listen, they're they're probably

1301
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: on the international stage, never going to overtake soccer as

1302
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,640
Speaker 1: the game of the world. Like the rest of the

1303
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 1: world looks at football and they say, yeah, no, listen,

1304
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 1: I mean goalies in that. You know that that's football.

1305
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 1: We look at it differently and we say, no, we

1306
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: want you guys to do this too, And a lot

1307
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: of fans of soccer have rebuked that. But then you

1308
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: know what, there are certain fans, not unlike America, that say,

1309
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not really into soccer. Like I

1310
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: get it, the hypes, the hype's real, and maybe there's

1311
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: a lot of money and it's competitive, and but it's

1312
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: just not for me. So I'm gonna watch cricket, or

1313
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch basketball internationally, or I'm gonna you know,

1314
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: so listen, some of these countries that the NFL is

1315
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: to trees strategically trying to place themselves in, it's because

1316
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 1: they realize, oh wow, basketball has made headway across the world.

1317
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: Now we have a great foothold in our own country,

1318
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 1: So we're not hurting for cash like you mentioned, but

1319
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 1: they could chip away at some of the you know,

1320
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:44,560
Speaker 1: sports viewers who have turned to American sports viewers overseas

1321
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 1: that you know, basketball obviously, the NBA specifically has done

1322
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: a nice job of spreading their game two or baseball

1323
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 1: for that matter, for for years now. In in Southeast Asia, baseball,

1324
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, especially in Japan and Korea, baseball is starting

1325
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: to get enormous. It has been for many years, but

1326
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 1: it's getting even bigger. In Latin America, baseball has taken over.

1327
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine if all of a sudden

1328
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: you start getting some of these Latin American athletes instead

1329
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 1: of looking toward baseball as an opportunity for them, but

1330
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: maybe football, you know, could there be a way to

1331
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: start instituting football at schools in some of these countries

1332
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 1: and getting players enough people interested in the sport that

1333
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: you can start having a little bit more of an

1334
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: international class of players making their way into football as well.

1335
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: I think there's a bigger play here on the international

1336
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 1: stage to compete with soccer, to compete with baseball as

1337
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:49,799
Speaker 1: its MLB as it's expanded its borders and the NBA

1338
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 1: because they've done a nice job of it.

1339
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 10: There's media rates in all these countries too, like chasing

1340
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 10: after this stuff Sky Sports in the UK, Like, there's

1341
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 10: plenty of people out there willing to keep paying for

1342
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 10: the NFL product. And you're right, like even soccer is

1343
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:06,799
Speaker 10: doing this. Rich, Like some of the clubs in England

1344
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 10: now understand that they have a massive viewing audience in

1345
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 10: India in Southeast Asia and they are taking some of

1346
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 10: the We're they're having the same conversation over in Britain

1347
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 10: that they were having here about the NFL that Rich

1348
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 10: is bringing up. They're saying, why is this Manchester United

1349
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 10: game being played in in Bangkok? Like because they're going

1350
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 10: over to these places to play these games because they

1351
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 10: understand this is still a product that you have to

1352
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 10: market to more and more markets because they want to

1353
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 10: still be number one on top as well.

1354
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 2: Look, if you want to watch now for the you

1355
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 2: want the gimmick of playing games overseas, that's fine. Look

1356
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 2: I'm in isolation. That's when it comes to football. I

1357
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 2: do not It's it's just so unnecessarily this game in Iowas.

1358
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 2: But I mean again, it's not just the fact that

1359
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 2: they're playing a game in Brazil. If they're playing this game,

1360
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 2: this game, this is one of the premiere Week one

1361
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 2: matchups in the NFL Packers Eagles. Here's apparently they didn't

1362
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 2: do their homework. Because there is a problem, agreed, not

1363
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 2: to the extent that people are exaggerated to be, but

1364
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 2: it is a little bit of a problem. And you

1365
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 2: had the two teams in the league whose dominant color

1366
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 2: are green while competing in this game.

1367
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 1: So I just to make the comparison this way, Like

1368
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 1: to me, it's not as big of a problem as

1369
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: it's being Like, imagine like there was I don't know,

1370
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: a soccer club from England that wears red, or from

1371
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: Switzerland or wherever, and they were going to play stateside

1372
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: in LA and you know, all of a sudden, you know,

1373
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: the players were briefed by whatever their national advisory board

1374
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 1: or you know, international security team. Each of these clubs

1375
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: was told listen, don't be wearing you're red around the

1376
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 1: streets of LA because they have the crypts and the

1377
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: bloods and they are at war with each other and

1378
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: their gangs, like it would be the same thing. They're

1379
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: just trying to corral a bunch of young men into

1380
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 1: not putting themselves in circumstances that could potentially be dangerous. Right, Brazil,

1381
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: South Pawoll Brazil is going to be safe for all

1382
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: these NFL players. I guarantee it, the same way LA

1383
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 1: would be safe for a visiting international soccer club, even

1384
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 1: if they were all wearing red the entire time they

1385
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: were in LA. It's just like that. But the crux

1386
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: of the story is the NFL doesn't have to do this.

1387
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, Steve, But they're not looking right now.

1388
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: They're looking in twenty years. What's the world stage gonna

1389
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 1: look like. What's the world gonna look like? From a

1390
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 1: media sharing standpoint? The world's already become a really small

1391
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 1: place with social media. What's the next big thing that

1392
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: bridges more of the gaps, Like we'll be able to

1393
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 1: Will we be able to understand each other's languages easier

1394
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 1: in the future. I don't know. But if you have

1395
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: less language barriers as a result of some new technology

1396
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: that comes out, maybe all of a sudden it starts

1397
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 1: taking down some of the barriers of entry for these

1398
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 1: sports and people become more of a fan of your

1399
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 1: game as long as you've done the legwork and built

1400
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: some of the infrastructure in the first place. And I

1401
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: think that's what the NFL is doing by playing in

1402
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 1: Salt Powa.

1403
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 2: By the way, a warning to the Eagles and Packers

1404
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 2: players going down to Brazil. Don't be a Ryan Lochtey.

1405
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 2: I remember that disaster. Yeah, don't pull one of those.

1406
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 2: All right, coming up on the other side, we're going

1407
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 2: to get right back to NBA. That's right. We got

1408
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 2: a reminder again. We're doing you a public service. Game

1409
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 2: two NBA Finals tonight. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey,

1410
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 2: Rich Harberger, Fox Sports Sunday. We are alive from the

1411
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 2: ti iraq dot com studios. All Right, I got a

1412
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 2: little detoured during the break because I was thinking about

1413
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 2: this subject. We were talking about how the NFL is

1414
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,560
Speaker 2: trying to become global global, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1415
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 2: And you know I have a lot of interest in

1416
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 2: the space program, as do you. And so I was

1417
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 2: listening to one of two politicians that actually flew in space,

1418
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 2: former Senator Nelson out of Florida, still very involved in

1419
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 2: the space program, and he mentioned that he expects man

1420
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 2: to walk on Mars no later than twenty forty. Okay,

1421
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 2: So twenty forty okay, that's yeah, that's sixteen years. I mean,

1422
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 2: that's not that far away. Seems pretty lofty, but he says,

1423
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 2: and by the way, the original projections were sometime in

1424
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 2: the mid twenty thirties.

1425
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1426
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 2: He actually is the one that said, all right, let's

1427
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 2: let's set twenty forty. So what do you think is

1428
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 2: going to happen first a man No, no, no, a man

1429
01:16:55,840 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 2: a man walking on Mars or America in football being

1430
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 2: an Olympic sport.

1431
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 1: Wow?

1432
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 2: Okay, because there will be in twenty forty. So you

1433
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 2: have games in twenty twenty four, twenty eight, thirty two,

1434
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 2: thirty six, twenty forty, right, as far as every four years.

1435
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 2: So what will happen first a man walking or a

1436
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 2: woman walking on Mars or American football being an Olympic sport?

1437
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: Oh? I mean, if those are the only two options,

1438
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: and what I would say are more likely, I would

1439
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 1: say American football becoming an Olympics.

1440
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 2: Okay, so we already have what what happened?

1441
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 10: I just I don't know if you have known this,

1442
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,839
Speaker 10: but flag football is going to be I didn't.

1443
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 2: Say flag football. I know I've talked about American football.

1444
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 2: Ye unders American football. That's I'm not talking flag football,

1445
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:56,719
Speaker 2: talking about American tackle football, Okay, American tackled not flag football.

1446
01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 1: The Olympics, I'll say it happens first, and I'm talking

1447
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: about eleven on eleven, full on.

1448
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 2: Right, I'm talking about as we know, tackle football uniform

1449
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 2: not flag footbabb doesn't well get their full teams at

1450
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 2: the Olympics. It's seven on seven. I'm just saying, will

1451
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 2: we Okay, Rich is still trying to ponder the answer here, but.

1452
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the sevens, by the way, you know, that's

1453
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: an enormous tournament outside of the Olympics as well, So

1454
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: it's not it's not something that doesn't garner interest or

1455
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 1: have prominence outside of the Olympics. So if we're going

1456
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:33,839
Speaker 1: to talk about the way the style that college football

1457
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 1: or NFL football or even for that matter, UFL is

1458
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: being played this spring in the Olympics, I would say

1459
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: it's more likely. And here's the reason why, because already

1460
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 1: in Europe you have a lot of countries that are

1461
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 1: activated and have been for a long time because NFL

1462
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 1: Europe went away, but football didn't go away. In fact,

1463
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: I have a foreign born a friend of mine, Sebastian Vaumer,

1464
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: who grew up in Germany playing high school football. And

1465
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 1: then because he lives in Germany, you owe a year

1466
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: of your postgrad when you finish high school to the

1467
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: state and you could go serve in the military, or

1468
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 1: you could go work in some social capacity. I think

1469
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 1: he worked in the social capacity. And then he was

1470
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 1: he was recruited and given a scholarship to go play

1471
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: at the University of Houston, and so he found his

1472
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 1: way to the NFL after cutting his teeth on football

1473
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: in Europe.

1474
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 2: So, but how many players are there? Here's the thing,

1475
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 2: Here's here's football is a very expensive sport. Yes, it

1476
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 2: is very expensive. A lot of Soccer is the most

1477
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 2: manageable sport from an economic standpoint, which is why it

1478
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 2: has such worldwide popularity. You need a ball, yeah, yeah,

1479
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 2: pretty much. You need a lot more than that for

1480
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 2: American football and so and then, and we're just talking

1481
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 2: about to have an Olympic sport, you have to it

1482
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 2: has to be competitive. I mean, there's gotta be a

1483
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 2: number of countries that actually can field a competitive team.

1484
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 2: And when we talk about the size, the speed of

1485
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 2: American football players, how many are those are walking the earth?

1486
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 2: Not many. No, there's not a lot of rich Rmburgers

1487
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 2: out there. I'm sorry, it's your rarity. There's a lot

1488
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 2: more Steve Hartman's walking the earth than there are rich

1489
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 2: Ormburgers walking the earth. And there are.

1490
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 1: Very many Steve Hartman's either, I'm gonna be honest.

1491
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 2: Well, no, yeah, from a mental standpoint, probably right about that.

1492
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 2: my x account. I mentioned earlier that Kaylin Clark is

1506
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 2: on pace to shatter the single season record for most

1507
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 2: turnovers in a season. The record is one hundred and

1508
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 2: thirty seven, the WNBA record. She's on pace for two

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01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty four. Okay, that's shattering a record. I

1510
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 2: got this from X Somebody said, did you just try

1511
01:21:56,640 --> 01:22:01,719
Speaker 2: to pass off the turnovers are a good thing. Here's

1512
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 2: one of my favorite stats. And by the way, I

1513
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 2: thought this record would never be broken, and it's going

1514
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 2: to be broken. When Kobe Bryant retired, he had shattered

1515
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 2: the NBA record for most field goal attempts missed over

1516
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 2: the course of his career. We've talked about this. Do

1517
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 2: you remember this. He was coming up on John halet

1518
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 2: Jack and he blew right by him and just put

1519
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 2: up a huge number. And at the time I said,

1520
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 2: no one will ever break that record. Well, guess who

1521
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 2: is five miss field goals short of breaking that record.

1522
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 2: Lebron James. Wow, Lebron James is five misses away from tying,

1523
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 2: six misses away from breaking what I thought was an

1524
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 2: unbreakable record, most missed attempts field goal attempts in an

1525
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 2: NBA career. Now, the point about Caitlin Clark I was

1526
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:57,679
Speaker 2: making is the only way that you can get away

1527
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 2: with shattering these kind of negative records is to be

1528
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 2: really good. In other words, you're not They're not gonna

1529
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 2: let everybody walk into the WNBA and average nearly six

1530
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 2: turnovers a game. She's averaging five point six turnovers a game.

1531
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 2: There's only one other player in the league averaging four.

1532
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 2: But you're not gonna get away with that unless you

1533
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 2: bring something else. Now, in her case, I look at

1534
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 2: her field goal percentage. I mentioned this last week. She's

1535
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 2: third in the league and field goal three point attempts

1536
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 2: and twenty second in the league in three point percentage.

1537
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 2: She has them shooting the ball. Well, you know, she's

1538
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 2: a turnover machine, and none of it matters because of

1539
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 2: her star power. And this is the same thing no

1540
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 2: one was carrying. How many shots Kobe missed. Obviously, nobody

1541
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 2: cares about Lebron missing shots. This is the luxury of

1542
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:59,679
Speaker 2: being great, is that you can have negative things happen

1543
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 2: and it's overlooked because of your greatness. So that was

1544
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 2: the point I wanted to clarify.

1545
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen, I think that sports aren't fair. I

1546
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 1: don't think that. I know that I played football at

1547
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:16,759
Speaker 1: the highest level in this country, and I can promise

1548
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 1: you there were times where a guy was on our

1549
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: roster who didn't deserve the playing time he was getting,

1550
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 1: who had a more talented understudy, who undoubtedly would help

1551
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 1: the team more and help team success grow faster, but

1552
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 1: as a result of circumstance, they got more opportunity. You know,

1553
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 1: there's a such thing as a draft, and in the draft,

1554
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 1: when somebody is a first rounder versus when somebody's a

1555
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 1: seventh rounder, who do you think is going to get

1556
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: more chances to prove their worth at the pro level?

1557
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: The guy who they've made a very very minimal investment in,

1558
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: or the guy who, not only from the standpoint of

1559
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 1: financially but also from a fan barometer standpoint, you can't

1560
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 1: really miss on. So the answer is very clear. With

1561
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:14,639
Speaker 1: the Indiana Fever, they spent their first overall draft pick

1562
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 1: on easily the most famous athlete in the world right

1563
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 1: or should say in the country right now. Nobody's talking

1564
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 1: about anybody more than Caitlin Clark in the sports world

1565
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 1: right now, and that's been pretty much the case since

1566
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 1: the women's tournament. You know, there's the hype about the

1567
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 1: national championship game, and then it was the hype about

1568
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: the draft, and then it was the hype since she's

1569
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 1: been in the w NBA she is a star. And

1570
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: so yeah, to your point, Steve, like stars are going

1571
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 1: to be treated differently than the undrafted free agent out

1572
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: of I don't know, name another school Yukon to you know,

1573
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 1: jene Arima said, you know what this girl can play,

1574
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 1: and maybe the fever brought on a Ukon Husky. And

1575
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 1: she's not trust me. Even if she is right now

1576
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 1: more talented than Kayln Clark, She's not going to see

1577
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 1: the court nearly as much as Kaitlyn Clark. And I'm

1578
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: making up a fictitious situation, but it's to prove the

1579
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 1: point that you made. She may be on the path

1580
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 1: to set this record in turnovers, but the hope is

1581
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 1: for the fever for the league, frankly, that she turns

1582
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 1: it around and she starts playing her team at the

1583
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: pro level the same way she played at the college level.

1584
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: Because if that's the case, this story is limitless in

1585
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 1: terms of its potential as far as potential ratings and

1586
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 1: viewership opportunities, and beyond that, I mean, who knows where

1587
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,440
Speaker 1: this goes. If she ends up turning into the superstar

1588
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 1: she was at the college level at the professional level.

1589
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 2: There are two ways to become a superstar in sports.

1590
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 2: I'm really almost a superstar at anything, but we use

1591
01:26:54,040 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 2: sports here. Two ways. One is to be just dominant,

1592
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,520
Speaker 2: like you win so many titles, there's so many championships,

1593
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 2: are set, so many records, you can't be ignored, or

1594
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 2: you just have that personality that lifts you and separates

1595
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,680
Speaker 2: you from the rest of the pack. Every once in

1596
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 2: a while you get somebody who's got both and then

1597
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 2: well then then you really go over the top in

1598
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 2: terms of their superstar and mentioned Carlos al Karez winning

1599
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 2: the French Open today becomes the youngest man ever to

1600
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 2: win on all three surfaces Grand Slam titles see one

1601
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 2: of us opening on the hard course, He's one Wimbledon

1602
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,520
Speaker 2: on the grass, lights won the French Open on the clay.

1603
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking always what are the most amazing stats

1604
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 2: to me? And we don't talk a lot of tennis

1605
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 2: because most people don't care. But when you think about

1606
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 2: the runs of Djokovic, Nadal and Federer, who bar by

1607
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 2: far I'll put it this way, those three guys are one,

1608
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 2: two three in titles, finals, appearances, semi finals appearances, quarter

1609
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,600
Speaker 2: finals appearances, and there's no one even close. And what

1610
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 2: makes it even more remarkable is that they were all

1611
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:06,759
Speaker 2: playing against each other. Yeah, imagine if Djokovic or Nadal

1612
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 2: or Feder didn't have the other two there, how many

1613
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 2: titles would they have won?

1614
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 1: Well, this is like the Phil Mickelson debate with Tiger, Like,

1615
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 1: how many more majors? How many more tournaments would Phil

1616
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 1: have won? If there was no such thing as Tiger

1617
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: will Well, this is.

1618
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 2: Why I'm looking at this Alkarez kid, and I'm thinking

1619
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 2: to myself already he's shown his He's undefeated three and

1620
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 2: zero now in Grand Slam finals. And if someone doesn't

1621
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 2: step up as Nadal did to Feder and then Djokovic

1622
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 2: comes up, this guy could I don't know, I mean

1623
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 2: he could, he could make the run. And if he

1624
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 2: starts doing that, even if you out there don't have

1625
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 2: a clue who I'm talking about yet, he'll become a

1626
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 2: front page story because he starts dominating. We haven't had

1627
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 2: a Grand Slam, meaning winning all four of the Grand

1628
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 2: Slam titles in the same year since nineteen sixty nine.

1629
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 2: Rod Labor did it way back in the day. But

1630
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 2: he has a chance. I mean, the Doll's done, Federal

1631
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,679
Speaker 2: already retired, and Djokovic he got hurt in this French open,

1632
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 2: so his body finally looks like it's breaking down. This kid,

1633
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 2: he's twenty one, He's got a chance.

1634
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I I to tie it back to what

1635
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 1: we were just talking about, and I think it is

1636
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:23,600
Speaker 1: an interesting comparison. You're right, there are two ways to

1637
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 1: build a star in sports. Typically, either you have an

1638
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 1: undeniable personality and you have a good enough talent that

1639
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 1: people will overlook some of your on field, on court,

1640
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:41,600
Speaker 1: on ice misgivings because you just you just bring so

1641
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 1: much to the table. And then, like you said, some

1642
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 1: people have the talent and the dominance and then obviously

1643
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 1: have the personality and then it goes light years beyond

1644
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 1: what it could or should be or perceived that it

1645
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 1: could be. Well, look Caitlin Clark in her case, and

1646
01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of the press you've seen

1647
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 1: from Kaylyn Clark or the interviews. She says all the

1648
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 1: right things, but she's not electric off. No, she's very

1649
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 1: She answers questions the way if if I were her

1650
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:14,600
Speaker 1: head coach, or if I were the commissioner of the

1651
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 1: WNBA the exact way I would want her to. She's humble,

1652
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 1: she shows great humility. She speaks with reverence about the

1653
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 1: other players and opponents that she's going against in in

1654
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 1: the WNBA. But there's nothing really, It's not like when

1655
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 1: you saw an interview with Shack where you were just like,

1656
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. Not only is this guy a stud

1657
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 1: on the court, but he is undeniably electric in terms

1658
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 1: of his personality, Like they put him in movies. He

1659
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 1: started releasing rap albums during his career, like Shaq was

1660
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:52,759
Speaker 1: a star not only because of his on court performance

1661
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:55,759
Speaker 1: but because of his personality. Going back to Kayln Clark,

1662
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 1: look what it's gonna take for Kayln Clark to cut

1663
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 1: through as a super at the w NBA level. She

1664
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 1: already has, but to keep the flame lit is for

1665
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 1: her to be dominant, and she's shown in spots that

1666
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 1: she can be. Now, this isn't a great Fever team

1667
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 1: as far as I've seen in terms of their win

1668
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 1: loss record or their stats. I mean she is. I mean,

1669
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 1: this is not a very good basketball team she joined.

1670
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 1: But if she can grow like Kobe Bryant, by the way,

1671
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 1: wasn't a star when he first got to the league.

1672
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 1: It took him a little time to take off. You know,

1673
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,080
Speaker 1: James Harden wasn't a star when he got to the NBA.

1674
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 1: It took him a little time. He was a six

1675
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 1: man off the bench and OKC before he signed that

1676
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 1: big deal with the Houston Rockets. Like it took time

1677
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 1: for some of the stars in the NBA to get

1678
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: their careers moving in the correct direction, but once they did,

1679
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 1: they were undeniable. And I think that's what Caitlin Clark

1680
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:57,679
Speaker 1: needs to do. She may not have the stardom related

1681
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:00,720
Speaker 1: at ever or at all to her personality, but if

1682
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 1: she's dominant the way she was at Iowa at the

1683
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:07,720
Speaker 1: pro level, I mean, she will again be undeniable. Already

1684
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:10,680
Speaker 1: she is, but I think she's coasting off of her

1685
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 1: potential right now because everybody's expecting for the same thing

1686
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 1: that occurred with the Hawkeyes, who occur with the fever.

1687
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 1: We'll see that still has yet to be written, but

1688
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 1: so far in terms of storylines and attention, she's still

1689
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 1: getting all of it.

1690
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she's getting it because they want to take

1691
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 2: her out of the league. It seems like, I don't know,

1692
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 2: it's I think in her defense, I think there's a

1693
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 2: fatigue factor. Let's face it, She's played a full college

1694
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:38,640
Speaker 2: season and literally what a month later, she's playing in

1695
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:41,559
Speaker 2: the WNBA. There was like no layoff for her, So

1696
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:45,440
Speaker 2: I think understandably there's a little fatigue. Now, speaking of superstar,

1697
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 2: is an undeniable superstar is going to be joining us.

1698
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:52,759
Speaker 2: He is the great John Paul Morosi, her Fox Sports Radio,

1699
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 2: MLB and NHL insider. He'll join us here on Fox

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01:32:57,320 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin and Rich Lumberger. Here Fox Sports Sunday.

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01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:05,560
Speaker 2: We are live from the tire rack dot Com studios

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01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 2: every week. It is an honor for us to share

1703
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 2: the airwaves with this gentleman. He wears many hats, and

1704
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 2: he dominates every sport that he covers. He is our

1705
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 2: dear friend. He is the one and only the great

1706
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 2: John Palm Morosi is joining us right now.

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01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 6: JP is always you know me.

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01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 2: I want to get into a little hockey with you

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01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 2: before we get into some Major League Baseball Stanley Cup

1710
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 2: Final underway. You said the Panthers are the better team.

1711
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 2: They showed a game one. But I want to talk

1712
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:38,840
Speaker 2: about Connor McDavid and trying to perspective because Rich and

1713
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 2: I've been talking about some superstars, to talk about al

1714
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 2: Karez Winn. He is third Grand Slam title at the

1715
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 2: age of twenty one. Connor McDavid has played nine years

1716
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 2: in the NHL, number one overall pick back in twenty

1717
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 2: fifteen straight to the BIGS, and he's won five scoring titles.

1718
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 2: He's been a three time MVP, maybe a fourth this year.

1719
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 2: Can you put some perspective on Connor McDavid and his

1720
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 2: place already in NHL history.

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01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 3: That's great question, and first of welcome afternoon, greatly with

1722
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 3: you again. He is in that class with Sidney Crosby,

1723
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 3: I think in terms of just elite sears of the game,

1724
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:29,680
Speaker 3: with also extraordinary puck skills, scoring, touch everything. He is

1725
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 3: the best player to come along since Crosby and when

1726
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 3: Crosby was at his peak. This is what we're seeing.

1727
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 3: This is exactly. It's almost like it's on instant replay.

1728
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,679
Speaker 3: A lot of the same traits and characteristics that McDavid

1729
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 3: has his. I would actually augment that in the Crosby

1730
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 3: comparison that McDavid's straight ahead skating speed I think is

1731
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 3: better than what Crosby had even at his peak. I mean,

1732
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 3: that's what we're talking about here. We are talking about

1733
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 3: even among the elite. He's got separation in some key

1734
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 3: skill areas from the elites. That's what we're talking about.

1735
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:09,919
Speaker 3: It's an iconic player who just with his scoring ability

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01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 3: his playmaking ability, it's rare that you see a finisher

1737
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:20,599
Speaker 3: of his caliber also be a playmaker of his caliber.

1738
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 3: And that's where you get those extraordinary point totals because

1739
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 3: there's a heavy component of both the goal scoring and

1740
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 3: the assists to players like Himen and dry Sidle depending

1741
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 3: on who he's playing with it at given time. So I

1742
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 3: love watching him play. He is dazzling. I saw in

1743
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 3: play a game in person this year in Detroit, and

1744
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 3: it's just it's a treat. I mean, you show up

1745
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 3: to watch him play and he rarely, if ever disappoints

1746
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 3: in what he delivers. So just an extraordinary player who

1747
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 3: I love watching him. I expect the Oilers to bounce

1748
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 3: back here in Game two. I still believe the Panthers

1749
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:01,040
Speaker 3: win the series, but I think we'll see something special

1750
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 3: here from ninety seven in Game two.

1751
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:06,679
Speaker 1: Moving on to Major League Baseball and actually just sitting

1752
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:09,800
Speaker 1: with Steve on Sundays for whatever reason, gets my brain.

1753
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 1: Oftentimes I don't think about a player his impact on

1754
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:18,759
Speaker 1: the entirety of a sport where he'll be remembered in history.

1755
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:22,919
Speaker 1: But that question it made me think about Bryce Harper,

1756
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:27,679
Speaker 1: you know, and and you know and Bryce about twelve

1757
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 1: years ago. I want to say it was that feels

1758
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:32,639
Speaker 1: right right twenty twelve might have been his FLb debut

1759
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 1: with the Nats. You know, he's he's done damage in

1760
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 1: this league. He's a two time MVP, He's I don't

1761
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 1: know how many All Stars, and he's done it all.

1762
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 1: He was Rookie of the Year. He's done it all.

1763
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 1: Like it feels like he's one of those players who

1764
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 1: is going to be remembered well on the other side

1765
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,640
Speaker 1: of his playing career. But where will he rank? Like

1766
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 1: because Bryce Harper was supposed to, along with Mike Trout

1767
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,840
Speaker 1: and some other players, be the shepherds of this league

1768
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 1: and amplify it to a national audience that maybe had

1769
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:10,679
Speaker 1: been broken up into more of a regional audience over time.

1770
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if that plan necessarily panned out the

1771
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 1: way Major League Baseball hoped, But here we are, twelve

1772
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 1: years later. Where are we at with the Bryce Harper storyline,

1773
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 1: how will he be remembered, you know, since he's now

1774
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:27,639
Speaker 1: in his thirties and he's got probably more yesterday's logged

1775
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:29,759
Speaker 1: than tomorrow's in Major League Baseball.

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01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:32,679
Speaker 3: Well, it's an interesting point, Rich because I actually think

1777
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 3: when you look at his longevity, how he takes care

1778
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 3: of himself. Yeah, he's had some injuries in the past,

1779
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:39,800
Speaker 3: but I think he's done a pretty good job of

1780
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:43,839
Speaker 3: staying healthy and dependable. And he's basically the same age

1781
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:46,439
Speaker 3: as Mike Trout, but you look at the last couple

1782
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 3: of years and he's been much more dependable in terms

1783
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:52,559
Speaker 3: of his production and his durability. He's only thirty one.

1784
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 3: He turns thirty two basically in the middle of the postseason,

1785
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 3: and I think he is we can call it halfway

1786
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 3: through certainly, when you consider where he believes he can

1787
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:08,640
Speaker 3: be still being a productive player into his into his

1788
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 3: early forties. I think that's his goal. His goal is

1789
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 3: to be one of these players that endures and plays

1790
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:17,640
Speaker 3: for a really, really long time. I know that's been

1791
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 3: what he has said about his contractual goals and how

1792
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 3: long he wants to be signed for in Philly. He's

1793
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 3: in the right place, with the right team, right market.

1794
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 3: It just seems like that was a great fit for him.

1795
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 3: In terms of the grid, He's a He's a superstar

1796
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 3: who has that grinder mentality, which I think fits very

1797
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 3: well with the city of Philadelphia. And I think that

1798
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 3: that chip on his shoulder, if you will, is very

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01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 3: much a part of him. And it's interesting, as you

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01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:51,519
Speaker 3: point out the national slash international appeal. I think he's

1801
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 3: done everything that MLB could have ever asked him to do.

1802
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 3: He's he's a very interesting personality. He does not shy

1803
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 3: away from from interviews in any way. He's actually, I

1804
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:07,600
Speaker 3: think a very accessible superstar. I know, covering the postseason

1805
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 3: last year, he was great with us in terms of

1806
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 3: doing pregame interviews, postgame interviews. He's there and he loves

1807
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 3: the fanatic he wear. He's worn those fanatic themed shoes.

1808
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 3: He did the soccer slide yesterday when he was celebrating

1809
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 3: the goal. He gets it. I think, right, Harper is

1810
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 3: a lot of fun and I know that maybe earlier

1811
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 3: in his career, I think people may have gotten the

1812
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 3: wrong impression of him, and maybe they thought he was

1813
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 3: too serious or too standoffish. I think He's actually become

1814
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:38,200
Speaker 3: more accessible the further along he's got in his career,

1815
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 3: and he has done everything that the MLB would ask

1816
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 3: him to do as far as I'm concerned, and you

1817
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 3: look at what Showey Otani has done as some other

1818
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 3: players in terms of growing the game. I look at

1819
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 3: Harper as being on a very short list along with Otani, Judge,

1820
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 3: maybe Soto of the players for whom the game is

1821
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,759
Speaker 3: most easily marketed. Mookie bests certainly in that conversation Freddy

1822
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:05,640
Speaker 3: Freeman too. You think about what the Dodgers are doing

1823
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 3: right now at Yankee Stadium, I think he has done

1824
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 3: everything that's been asked of him in more frankly from

1825
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:12,479
Speaker 3: an MLB perspective.

1826
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 2: All Right, you just mentioned show, Hey, Freddie Freeman, Mookie

1827
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:17,760
Speaker 2: bets for the Dodgers, Yet you did not mention the

1828
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 2: guy that currently leads this team in home runs and

1829
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 2: runs batted in taoscar Hernandez. I mean, you talk about

1830
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 2: a guy that came out of nowhere. It's not like,

1831
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:29,759
Speaker 2: you know, he hasn't done things at the major league level.

1832
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:32,599
Speaker 2: But there wasn't a lot of fanfare at the sonny

1833
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 2: of Hernandez by the Dodgers. He is tied with Otani

1834
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 2: with fifteen home runs, leads the Dodgers, and runs batted

1835
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 2: in more harbis than Otani, Freeman or Bets. How does

1836
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 2: this happen?

1837
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:45,240
Speaker 1: Why?

1838
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:48,680
Speaker 2: How did the Dodgers seem to get so lucky in

1839
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 2: signing guys without a lot of fanfare that they magically

1840
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 2: put on that Dodgers uniform and suddenly play at an

1841
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:56,800
Speaker 2: all star level.

1842
01:40:57,280 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 3: Well, he is, for me a an elite run producer

1843
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:05,759
Speaker 3: in this league, and part of it maybe we should

1844
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 3: have seen it coming. And again this is part of

1845
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:12,439
Speaker 3: the rich get richer mentality of the Dodgers, because he

1846
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 3: did have a season three years ago in Toronto thirty

1847
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 3: two homers, one hundred and sixteen RBI with a thrugging

1848
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:22,639
Speaker 3: percentage that's actually higher than what he has right now.

1849
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 3: So this is within his range, I would say for

1850
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:30,080
Speaker 3: ta Oscar, and this is where when you're on a

1851
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 3: good team with a lot of other great players, which

1852
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 3: is what the Dodgers have, I think you would certainly

1853
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:40,559
Speaker 3: say bets O'tani, Freeman, Will Smith and ta Oscar, it's

1854
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:42,879
Speaker 3: like the Big Five, if you will. With this lineup,

1855
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 3: it just gives him so many opportunities to drive and runs.

1856
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 3: There there is always traffic on the bases, and I

1857
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:53,720
Speaker 3: think by and large, you know, Will Smith is a

1858
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:56,479
Speaker 3: good athlete. He's not a great runner, not a burner

1859
01:41:56,520 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 3: on the bases, but MOOKI elite base runner. Otani, certainly

1860
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 3: for his size and as a power hitter, is one

1861
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:06,800
Speaker 3: of the best base runners for a guy his size,

1862
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,599
Speaker 3: honestly that I've ever seen in the game. Freddie really

1863
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 3: smart base runner too, So there are guys on bass

1864
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:16,719
Speaker 3: who know how to score when the ball is hitting

1865
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:19,599
Speaker 3: the gap, which is exactly what ta Oscar is doing.

1866
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 3: So I think Oskar is a smart hitter. He was

1867
01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 3: a very underappreciated bat. I think in those years in

1868
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 3: Toronto we talked a lot more about Bishett and Guerrero,

1869
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 3: and there was one big year that Semon had. I'm

1870
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 3: a huge taskar fan, I've always had been, and he's

1871
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 3: a really good teammate to people really enjoy having him around.

1872
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 3: There are some who believe that the Toronto Clubhouse did

1873
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:40,840
Speaker 3: we lose him.

1874
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:44,000
Speaker 1: I think we did. Huh. I think we lost our

1875
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 1: our good friend JP Morosi in the middle of that uh,

1876
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:52,560
Speaker 1: in that very very uh illuminating hold on.

1877
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:56,840
Speaker 2: We got him, he's still there. Hold on, he's back.

1878
01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 2: Continue on.

1879
01:42:57,920 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 3: I'm here.

1880
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:00,760
Speaker 2: We lost it for a second. JD.

1881
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 3: I'm on a landline as I had been the whole time,

1882
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 3: so that I'm like further mystified by whatever happened there.

1883
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:09,439
Speaker 3: But I'm I'm a big Ta Oscar fan. He is

1884
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 3: someone that you look back at what he did with Toronto.

1885
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:14,639
Speaker 3: He was one of the key guys in the lineup,

1886
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 3: but never got the attention he deserved. But when you

1887
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 3: joined forces now with Mookie Shoe, Freddie and Will Smith,

1888
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 3: it tends to improve your notoriety. And some of the

1889
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:27,559
Speaker 3: Dodgers are answering the bell this weekend against the Yankees,

1890
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 3: albeit with the pseudo less New York Ball Club on

1891
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 3: the other side.

1892
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 1: I know we're nearing the trade deadline. We're not. We're

1893
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 1: not quite within striking distance yet. It's then to July.

1894
01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 1: But can you squint maybe deeper into the future and

1895
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:45,719
Speaker 1: see some of the names or some of the teams

1896
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 1: that will be active as as we get into the

1897
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 1: summer months.

1898
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 3: Here, let's let's begin here. Steve Cohen was at the

1899
01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 3: London series Met and Phillies this weekend and story at

1900
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:02,280
Speaker 3: MLB dot Com right now. Anthony Dicobo, my colleague there,

1901
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 3: wrote about Steve Cohen discussing the Mets deadline plans in

1902
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 3: broad terms, and they do have some free agents to

1903
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:16,080
Speaker 3: be I would mention most notably Pieter Alonzo j D Martinez,

1904
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:20,040
Speaker 3: and we talk about those two names in particular. Steve

1905
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 3: Cohen basically said, hey, the trade deadline is not here yet.

1906
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:25,800
Speaker 3: We know that everybody around the league likes to talk

1907
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:29,600
Speaker 3: about trades. I'm paraphrasing here, and he sort of explained

1908
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 3: that basically, once we get to the deadline in late July,

1909
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 3: then we'll know what we're going to do. But he

1910
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:41,839
Speaker 3: notably did not say, no, we're not trading Pie Alonzo.

1911
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:45,320
Speaker 3: He could have, he did not, And I think that's

1912
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:48,760
Speaker 3: a very significant development of what he had said. That

1913
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:52,599
Speaker 3: you look at the big picture of where the Mets are,

1914
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:56,799
Speaker 3: they're well below five hundred. Even after winning the game today,

1915
01:44:57,439 --> 01:44:59,720
Speaker 3: I think they're going to be sellers. And I do

1916
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 3: leave that Pete Alonso is going to be available. I'm

1917
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 3: not going to come out and say that he's going

1918
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 3: to necessarily be traded, but given where the Mets are,

1919
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 3: given that if they keep him and offer the qualifying

1920
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:14,439
Speaker 3: offer then have him signed somewhere else. All they get

1921
01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 3: is a fourth round draft pick. No, that is not

1922
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:20,519
Speaker 3: good enough if I'm the New York Mets, So I

1923
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:22,960
Speaker 3: do think that they need to make that move, put

1924
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 3: them out there and more than likely make that trade

1925
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 3: to see what they can do to get to get

1926
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 3: back and to augments some prospects, because they're just not

1927
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 3: as good as as a Braves right now. This is

1928
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 3: the time of the year where you can have your

1929
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:39,160
Speaker 3: your public messaging to your fans. But the standings, as

1930
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:42,760
Speaker 3: the great Bill Parcells quota exists, the standings tell you

1931
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:45,200
Speaker 3: and the record tells you who you are. And right

1932
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 3: now the Mets are a decided seller for me at

1933
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:49,519
Speaker 3: the trade.

1934
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 1: Deadline, no question about that. JP.

1935
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 2: Always great stuff. By the way, next week I want

1936
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 2: to get into Canny Cummings whether or not he actually

1937
01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 2: invented the curve ball, which got him into the Baseball

1938
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:00,719
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, but we'll leave that for another day. JP,

1939
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:03,480
Speaker 2: you are the best. We'll talk to you next Saturday

1940
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 2: on Fathers Day.

1941
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:08,120
Speaker 3: It sounds great. My friends always love our conversations, and yes,

1942
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:11,120
Speaker 3: whether we're talking about the advent and the father of

1943
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 3: the curveball or the best purveyors of the curveball in

1944
01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:17,760
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. I always love my conversations with both

1945
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 3: of you.

1946
01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 2: Wow, listen to that. We're going to keep that one

1947
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:23,400
Speaker 2: at that one right there, JP, Thanks so much. Enjoy

1948
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 2: your week, very busy man, John Paul Morosi. Let's find

1949
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:32,479
Speaker 2: out what is trending right now. And you know this

1950
01:46:32,600 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 2: is someone that lives life to its fullest? Can I

1951
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:39,559
Speaker 2: put it that way? I try, Yeah, I try as long.

1952
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:42,720
Speaker 1: As it's on the radio, because I turn on Fox

1953
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 1: Sports Radio and what I hear Mansy Moncy Belangas, Yeah,

1954
01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:47,639
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven.

1955
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:51,360
Speaker 2: She is living proof that even if you work a lot,

1956
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 2: as she does multiple jobs, there is still plenty of

1957
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 2: time to play.

1958
01:46:56,280 --> 01:47:00,400
Speaker 8: Yes, as Steve just saw me give the biggest yawn

1959
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 8: of my day so far. I had an evening out

1960
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 8: and I was out laid and maybe had some cocktails,

1961
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 8: and you know what, I had a good time. I

1962
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 8: went to a graduation party for Grace, a friend of

1963
01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:15,000
Speaker 8: ours who is graduating from high school.

1964
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, congratulations Grace. But her sister Emily.

1965
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 8: Is going to her second year at Colorado Boulder Right

1966
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 8: coach Prime and I was like, how.

1967
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:25,960
Speaker 7: Is it going to games and all that. She's like,

1968
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 7: it's so much fun.

1969
01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 8: She started talking about our show, your You and I

1970
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:32,439
Speaker 8: Steve's show, and she was like, you know, we call

1971
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 8: him should Daddy, should Daddy at school?

1972
01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:41,200
Speaker 7: So I was like, are you serious. She's like yeah.

1973
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:42,519
Speaker 7: I was like, you don't hear. I didn't know that.

1974
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 8: She's like, no, the students call him shouldaddy, So like

1975
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:46,200
Speaker 8: at the games.

1976
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:47,640
Speaker 7: Like should Daddy go?

1977
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:47,720
Speaker 3: Go?

1978
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 8: So WoT got everywhere?

1979
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:56,759
Speaker 2: Our impact on this world is is not measurable. Honestly,

1980
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 2: that's amazing stuff.

1981
01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 7: Yes, thank you Emily for the insight eight. Yeah, so exactly.

1982
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:03,800
Speaker 7: All right, guys, let's check in on baseball.

1983
01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 8: And as we know, we did have a game today

1984
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:09,840
Speaker 8: in London and Eddie, our editor, pulled this and it's

1985
01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:14,680
Speaker 8: so great. So Mets Phillies final call from London with.

1986
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 1: The pressure on his shoulders.

1987
01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:18,200
Speaker 2: Are Castiano's bats explodes?

1988
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:19,720
Speaker 6: Are they gonna get the runner at home?

1989
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:22,280
Speaker 1: They're gonna do the Couther play to win the game?

1990
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 2: What an end?

1991
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 10: The shots at bat, the runner outs at home plates

1992
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:27,559
Speaker 10: and the.

1993
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:30,240
Speaker 1: Door fired into the club at the first basement.

1994
01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 2: Peter Lonzo and the new the Old Thanks somehow.

1995
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:36,880
Speaker 6: Which stunned the Phillies rally. Then they win Game two

1996
01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:41,719
Speaker 6: in London six five, seventeen hits. What drama, what a game,

1997
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:42,759
Speaker 6: what a finish?

1998
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:44,680
Speaker 8: Raise your hand if you thought for a second it

1999
01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 8: was soccer, just by listening to it for a second,

2000
01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 8: you're like, is this soccer?

2001
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 1: Thought for sure?

2002
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:51,280
Speaker 7: Right now?

2003
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 3: Yes?

2004
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:52,719
Speaker 7: Isn't that awesome?

2005
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:55,519
Speaker 8: The British version of the Final Call between the Phillies

2006
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 8: and the Mets in London. Mets did win it six

2007
01:48:58,160 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 8: to five. The Rangers outscored the Giants and two they

2008
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 8: avoid the sweep. The Guardians defeated the Marlin six to three.

2009
01:49:03,439 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 8: The Tigers crushed the Brewers.

2010
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:05,639
Speaker 7: Ten to two.

2011
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:08,240
Speaker 8: We are in extra innings in Pittsburgh between the Twins

2012
01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:10,559
Speaker 8: and the Pirates. Minnesota of five to four, now top

2013
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:12,680
Speaker 8: of the tenth inning. Nationals still on top of the

2014
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:15,320
Speaker 8: Braves eight to two, top of the ninth. In Washington,

2015
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 8: the White Sox again trying to get on a little

2016
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:19,559
Speaker 8: win streak. They've won two in a row after losing

2017
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 8: I don't know twenty They're betting the Red Sox four

2018
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:24,680
Speaker 8: to three. Top of the eighth inning. The Mariners are

2019
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:26,559
Speaker 8: now on top of the Royals. It was a tie game.

2020
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:28,559
Speaker 8: Three to one is the score bottom of the ninth

2021
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:29,920
Speaker 8: inning in Kansas City.

2022
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 7: But for Seattle, Tyler Locklear, he hit the go ahead

2023
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 7: RBI double. It was his first career major hit. What

2024
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 7: a way to start.

2025
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 8: Angels with the early lead against the Astros one zero,

2026
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 8: They're going to start the third inning. Blue Jay's up

2027
01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 8: on the ace two zero bottom of the second and

2028
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:46,480
Speaker 8: a tie game right now between the Diamondbacks and the Padres,

2029
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 8: tied at one apiece top of the second inning. Max

2030
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 8: Verstappen won the Canadian Grand Prix. He has won fifty

2031
01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:56,479
Speaker 8: of the last seventy five races in Formula one. Darren Waller,

2032
01:49:56,600 --> 01:49:58,640
Speaker 8: tight end of the NFL, has informed the New York

2033
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:02,040
Speaker 8: Giants that he is retired from the league. Carlos Aukraz

2034
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:04,920
Speaker 8: defeated Alexander z Vedev at the French Open in five sets.

2035
01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:07,400
Speaker 8: He's just twenty one years old, and of course, Game

2036
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:10,640
Speaker 8: two of the NBA Finals eight pm from Boston. Celtics

2037
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:14,519
Speaker 8: Mavericks Luka Doncic listed as questionable now. He has a

2038
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:17,880
Speaker 8: thoracic contusion along with the right knee spring and left

2039
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:21,040
Speaker 8: ankle soreness. That he has been dealing with dun dun dung.

2040
01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:24,320
Speaker 2: By the way, Rich Mazi and I were discussing this

2041
01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:26,920
Speaker 2: when she came in today, of course, delivering the food

2042
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 2: as she always does so graciously. Oh yes, you were

2043
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:35,040
Speaker 2: talking about you hate it when announcers don't know how

2044
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 2: to sort of call the end of a game, Yes,

2045
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:41,200
Speaker 2: deal with that certain level of excitement. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2046
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:45,760
Speaker 2: And you know I was talking about with her. One announcer,

2047
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:48,200
Speaker 2: I mean, there are many, but one that I've always

2048
01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 2: admired in his ability to capture the moment is the

2049
01:50:52,439 --> 01:50:55,400
Speaker 2: TV voice of the San Diego Padres, don Orscilla.

2050
01:50:55,640 --> 01:50:56,599
Speaker 1: Oh of course, yea.

2051
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 2: So I played for her Orsillo's call of Joe musk

2052
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 2: Roves no hitter, which was the first no hitter in

2053
01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 2: Padre's history, and the idea that it was done by

2054
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:08,680
Speaker 2: a guy who was in his first year with a

2055
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 2: team who happened to be from San Diego, grew up

2056
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 2: in the San Diego area, being that guy, and then

2057
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 2: having the just the ability to convey that on the

2058
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 2: air as it's happening in pitching that no hitter. Yeah,

2059
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 2: I and I, as I was playing this for her

2060
01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:31,400
Speaker 2: and Rich, we must have played that on the air

2061
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:34,200
Speaker 2: a thousand times. When it happened, we would just we

2062
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 2: would say, you know, today is the two hundred and

2063
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 2: forty eight day anniversary.

2064
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:39,280
Speaker 1: Of this moment.

2065
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 2: We didn't need an excuse to play this because every

2066
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:43,600
Speaker 2: time we play it, people like, oh, I want to

2067
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 2: hear that again.

2068
01:51:44,280 --> 01:51:48,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that it was. It's absolutely correct what you said.

2069
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 1: I think that great sports moments don't necessarily need narration,

2070
01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:56,960
Speaker 1: you know, because it's as special if you're in the

2071
01:51:57,000 --> 01:51:59,559
Speaker 1: stands as if you're listening at home or watching at home.

2072
01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 1: But when you have an announcer who, in a complimentary way, yeah,

2073
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:06,640
Speaker 1: really gets it.

2074
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:09,040
Speaker 2: What he called the moment and then he backed off.

2075
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:12,719
Speaker 1: My favorite, my favorite call, one of my favorite calls

2076
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:15,800
Speaker 1: of all time. It's not even it's not a super Bowl,

2077
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 1: it's not a no hitter, it's a but the the

2078
01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 1: what was it? The Minneapolis miracle, the throw from gosh,

2079
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 1: who was it the quarterback? It wasn't, but Diggs catches

2080
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 1: it and it's a walk off touchdown for the win

2081
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:33,240
Speaker 1: for the Minnesota Vikings in the postseason. And I remember

2082
01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 1: Joe Buck he probably on the play once once it

2083
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 1: was clear that he was going to run it in

2084
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. He may have only said four words

2085
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 1: and then got out of the way and let the

2086
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:50,800
Speaker 1: crowd tell the story. But his level of excitement, shouting whatever,

2087
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 1: the ford's something like digs touchdown, it's over. And then

2088
01:52:55,240 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 1: he just shut up and the crowd is going nuts.

2089
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 1: Pops his helmet off, throws it. He's posing in front

2090
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:05,680
Speaker 1: of the cameras. You know, the next voice you hear

2091
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:09,280
Speaker 1: is I think Troy Aikman's. But it was a full

2092
01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:13,520
Speaker 1: sixty seconds later, and it was such a great exercise

2093
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:16,799
Speaker 1: of restraint. I think a lot of announcers can overdo

2094
01:53:16,840 --> 01:53:19,959
Speaker 1: it sometimes. You know, he kind of nailed it there.

2095
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:22,320
Speaker 2: But you know, you should have excitement if you're a

2096
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:28,040
Speaker 2: hometown announcer, exactly, there's gotta be that y well, you're

2097
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:31,760
Speaker 2: a hometown guy homer ism. I People are like, well,

2098
01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:34,520
Speaker 2: he's such a homer yeah, because he's paid by behind

2099
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:39,120
Speaker 2: who's listening. I remember in the two years that I

2100
01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:42,160
Speaker 2: was part of a UCLA football broadcast, I kept thinking

2101
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:46,439
Speaker 2: to myself, again, who's actually listening to this? They have

2102
01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:50,200
Speaker 2: to be a diehard UCLA football fan. And I wasn't

2103
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:52,599
Speaker 2: some ax and O's guy. That's going to break it down.

2104
01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:56,639
Speaker 2: I'm going to be a fan. And that's the way

2105
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 2: I did it. You know, of course I got can

2106
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:02,600
Speaker 2: from that job immediately, but still I felt like that

2107
01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 2: was the right bro. Rich Rich knows this. I mean,

2108
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 2: he's been doing as sex football. How many years now? Coming?

2109
01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:11,880
Speaker 1: I think that. I think I'm coming up on my

2110
01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 1: ninth year, new.

2111
01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 2: Ninth year, Yeah, ninth year.

2112
01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2113
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:19,040
Speaker 2: It was a new broadcast partner coming up.

2114
01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:22,719
Speaker 1: It's gonna be John Shaeffer. He'll be Shaffer, new voice

2115
01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:26,439
Speaker 1: of Aztec football. And uh and and it really is. Uh.

2116
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 1: It's one of those things like you said, I mean

2117
01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:32,480
Speaker 1: you you are a homer and it's impossible for you

2118
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:34,520
Speaker 1: not to be in How could you not fall in

2119
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:38,400
Speaker 1: love with the player's storylines? You know, you get to

2120
01:54:38,440 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 1: meet some of these kids. Parents love this. Oh it's good.

2121
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:43,280
Speaker 2: I love it all right. Coming up on the other side,

2122
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:47,120
Speaker 2: our predictions, long awaited predictions for Game two of the

2123
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:50,360
Speaker 2: NBA Finals. Everyone is on the edge of their seat.

2124
01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:53,240
Speaker 2: Just hang on, We'll get to it. This is Fox

2125
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:57,720
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin, rich Oronberg. Here Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 1: We're alive.

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Speaker 2: From the ti iraq dot Com studio. I want to

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Speaker 2: thank our supporting crew. Second and none, of course monts

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. She burns the candle at both ends,

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Speaker 2: and yet it is always on top of her game. Yes,

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Speaker 2: doing a phenomenal job as he does, not only pushing

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Speaker 2: all the right buttons, but also lending his expertise on

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Speaker 2: a variety of subject matter here. So Chris, great job

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Speaker 2: as always. I try thank you and producing our show

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Speaker 2: today with Shay. When I get a text message at

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Speaker 2: like five am, like a panicked message that guys, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to be producing the show on Sunday, filling in

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Speaker 2: for Bow. Do you guys need anything? I didn't have

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Speaker 2: to answer, Rich You answered him immediately, seeing no, really

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Speaker 2: we don't. There's no preparation for this show. We just

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Speaker 2: turned on the mics and talked because he was asking

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Speaker 2: for the show. It's like, do they need any sound

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Speaker 2: to start? I'm like no, he was just going to

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Speaker 2: just start. I just start live in the dream. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to talk and then stop talking for a moment. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's our partner talk, and that's pretty much.

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Speaker 1: How we're Yeah, and honestly, insert any partner. I mean

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Speaker 1: to this day, I'm not completely convinced he knows my

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Speaker 1: name when we're not in a studio.

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Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of partners, as I'm doing the show,

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Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz just walked in. Okay, Jeff and I of

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Speaker 2: course did a show together for a number of years,

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Speaker 2: and he just walked in. I'm like, did you take

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Speaker 2: a left turn in Carolina?

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Speaker 6: How did you?

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, yeah, a little way.

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Speaker 2: Away from home. But his parents, you know, are u

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Speaker 2: c l A alums. I met his amazing parents, and

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Speaker 2: so he comes to visit them. He actually left his

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Speaker 2: wife and kids behind him. Take But jeff'son studio today,

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Speaker 2: so he's coming up here shortly. All right, Rich, We

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Speaker 2: do have Game two tonight between the MAVs and the

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Speaker 2: Boston Celtics. As Montsey has told us throughout the day,

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Speaker 2: at the very least, we're gonna get a less than

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent physically Lukadancic for the Dallas Mavericks. That

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Speaker 2: being said, we have seen in each round of the

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Speaker 2: playoffs so far a hiccup by the Celtics at home.

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Speaker 2: It happened Game two against Miami. It happened Game two

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Speaker 2: against Cleveland. It actually happened Game one against the Pacers.

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Speaker 2: Somehow they were able to survive that game, but they

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Speaker 2: should have lost. So is it gonna happen again where

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Speaker 2: we get a seemingly dominant Celtic team on a roll

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Speaker 2: having a hiccup at home game two of these NBA Finals.

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily see it, although I don't think we're

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Speaker 1: gonna see as dominant or efficient of a Christops porzingis,

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Speaker 1: for example, for multiple reasons. I think one of them

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Speaker 1: will be because the Mavericks, if they're smart at all,

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Speaker 1: they come up with a plan to handle what he

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Speaker 1: was able to do in his less than half game

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Speaker 1: minute contribution to that game one. And then also, look,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't played a game in about forty days, so

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be sore. And there's something called delayed offset

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Speaker 1: are delayed onset muscle soreness. It's good, it's doms doms

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Speaker 1: and that sets in right around Saturday Sunday for Chris

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Speaker 1: Stops after having this long layoff.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I bet you he would have been better off

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Speaker 2: if game two had been yesterday than it is having

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Speaker 2: it the extra day today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think honestly, his legs are gonna be heavy.

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Speaker 1: I think his arms are gonna feel heavy out there.

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Speaker 1: It's just I don't I think sometimes when you're coming

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Speaker 1: off of the injured reserve in football or off of

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Speaker 1: an injury in the NBA, like you know, you're you

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden you have fresh legs and everybody

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Speaker 1: else out there is kind of moving in quicksand and

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Speaker 1: you feel good, and then all of a sudden you realize,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like you know, basketball hurts, you know,

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Speaker 1: especially when you haven't done it for the better part

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Speaker 1: of five weeks. So I think there's that. But overall,

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Speaker 1: outside of like some of the minor limitations for maybe Christops,

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Speaker 1: I think Boston's the hungrier team. I think Boston's the

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Speaker 1: better team. I mean, Vegas knows it. I think I

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Speaker 1: think all of a sudden, the betting public has gassed

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Speaker 1: up Boston, maybe a little too much, you know. The

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Speaker 1: point spread got got up. I mean yesterday. I haven't

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Speaker 1: looked at it today, but it was. I think Boston

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Speaker 1: was at minus seven and a half, you know. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that line's held steady or if

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Speaker 1: there have been some Dallas Mavericks betters who have helped

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Speaker 1: even that out a little bit. But I think I

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Speaker 1: think Boston is going to win Game two, and I

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Speaker 1: think this this Dallas team is gonna have to muster

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Speaker 1: some sort of challenge when the series finally arrives at

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Speaker 1: their front door.

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Speaker 2: Everything says Boston tonight, Yeah, I'm taking Dallas. I guess

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Speaker 2: I could just see Boston not showing up for this game,

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Speaker 2: especially with the reports that lucas less than one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be one of those what happened, and then

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Speaker 2: that's gonna get everyone revved up. Think about this. If

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Speaker 2: it's a Boston blowout, forget it. No one's gonna watch

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Speaker 2: next Wednesday. It's another couple of days off. Wednesday is

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Speaker 2: Game three. Of course you have a travel day to Dallas.

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Speaker 2: So the NBA has to have Dallas in this game,

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Speaker 2: has to ye, and it's gonna happen. It's a magical

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Speaker 2: thing in the NBA. When you really need somebody to

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Speaker 2: certainly draft a certain player or win a certain game,

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Speaker 2: it always seems to work out that way for the NBA.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, Richie, have a great week out there.

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Speaker 2: Look at Jeff Schwartz, He's already he's got his Ducks

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Speaker 2: cap on reverse.

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Speaker 1: Keep it here.

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