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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to our number two of the Drive, and

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Speaker 2: well we're going over Seth Walters grades for the off

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Speaker 2: season on ESPN. Rob King sitting in for the vacationing

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson on Dale Lolly of course as usual here

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Speaker 2: and just to give you a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: recap here, the New Orleans Saints had a D. We

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Speaker 2: had the Las Vegas Raiders with a D. We had

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Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys with a D. Plug in not our

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Speaker 2: great Seth Walters. Minnesota Vikings get a C minus. The

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Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons, who the Steelers open the regular season with,

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Speaker 2: get a C minus. Then you're on to the Detroit

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Speaker 2: Lions at a C, the Washington Commanders at a C plus,

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Speaker 2: the New York Giants at a C plus, us the

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars at a C plus, The Buffalo Bills get

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Speaker 2: a C plus, Arizona Cardinals a C plus, Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: Rams a B minus. And we just did the Houston

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Speaker 2: with a B minus. That takes us two. The next

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Speaker 2: team up, the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 3: Like this is like exciting, you know, I'm into.

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Speaker 2: This because I haven't looked at this either.

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Speaker 3: So this is what we do. So this is I

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Speaker 3: always go into a season like, man, who are two

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Speaker 3: or three teams? You know, like if I can get

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Speaker 3: an out of market game, that's you know, not in

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Speaker 3: put the app up and watch his team play. There's

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Speaker 3: always two or three. Like going through this list and

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Speaker 3: hearing you through him again, the two teams from me

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Speaker 3: and everybody's going to be different. And look, Arizona could

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Speaker 3: be that team if Murray gets off to a hot start. Way,

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Speaker 3: let's tune it in. But Green Bay and Houston really

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Speaker 3: really intrigued me early on in the season. Like I

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Speaker 3: remember several years ago after Jacksonville beat the Steelers as

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Speaker 3: the playoffs, they never capitalize on that, right, it never

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Speaker 3: became that team. But the two teams that we've mentioned

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Speaker 3: so far, those are the two I'm looking out for

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Speaker 2: So far, well, the Denver Bronco's gonna be minus. Their

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Speaker 2: biggest move was drafting quarterback Bo Nicks. I didn't love

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Speaker 2: him either, but he fits in that offense. The movie

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Speaker 2: disliked the most was losing center Lloyd Cushionberry. In free agency.

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Speaker 2: He signed with the Tennessee Titans, and good player, good player,

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Speaker 2: and you know they you'd like to have a center there,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they're doing in Denver. They're kind

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Speaker 2: of I get what Peyton wants to come in and

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Speaker 2: That's why Russell Wilson is no longer there. He inherited

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Speaker 2: But I don't know about that team. I don't know

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Speaker 3: This is one hundred one hundred percent sold. This is

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent Shawn Payton's franchise. Yeah, this is his deal.

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Speaker 3: So if he's the guy and he is all that,

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Speaker 3: Remember and look, Chuck Nole first year went one in thirteen.

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Speaker 3: in his first year in Dallas. Bill Parcell struggled early

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Speaker 2: Here's my thing though, and we saw this like when

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Speaker 2: Rich Rodriguez always bring this one up. When Rich Rodriguez

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Speaker 2: my offense because my offense is what works. When you're coaching,

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Speaker 2: When I coach baseball, if I've got a lot of

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Speaker 3: Sore and I think this is another interesting, really interesting discussion.

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Speaker 3: So what do you do when you're a new coach

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Speaker 3: my system in my way of doing things, my disciplinary actions,

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Speaker 3: whatever they are, are different. Right, But this has to

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Speaker 3: I have enough faith in myself and I'm going to

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Speaker 2: So my problem is I don't like to lose, right,

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Speaker 3: So here's the thing. If you hire a guy like that,

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Speaker 3: you were saying, I'm hiring a visionary. Right, you're the

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Speaker 3: This guy's a visionary. Therefore I'm going to fire him. Now,

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Speaker 3: guy is a visionary, and you're going to be Vince

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Speaker 2: Mystery for Broncos. The Denver Broncos, once one of the

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Speaker 3: So here's the other thing too. So a coach can

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Speaker 3: can be both. A coach can show adaptability. He used

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Speaker 3: the rich Rodriguez example. I'll use the Ben Hallen example.

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Speaker 3: Like Ben Hallen came in from out west a camera

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Speaker 3: We're gonna come in, we're gonna shoot the lights out

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Speaker 3: And then he realized almost right away, that's not going

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Speaker 2: But again that's adapting to He adapted.

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Speaker 3: He adapted to his circumstances. So I mean, I like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm painting a black and white picture. You're

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Speaker 3: either a guy who's scorching the earth or you're Chuck Knowle. Well,

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Speaker 2: My big question is, is bo Nicks the guy who's

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Speaker 2: going to go in and beat Patrick Mahomes consistently? Is

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Speaker 2: beats Justin Herbert consistently? Because that's what you gotta face

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Speaker 2: in your division, right, you know, So that's always the

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Speaker 3: But he scortched the earth there.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's definitely scorched the earth because Russell Wilson was

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Speaker 2: not having a bad season last year and he benched him. Nope,

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Speaker 2: we can't We're not going to do this. So and

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Speaker 2: I don't think Russell Wilson is a bad football player.

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Speaker 3: No, it's his way and if his way it works.

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Speaker 2: He didn't fit his offense, right, you know, there are

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Speaker 3: Well again, and just look at a modern example of that.

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Speaker 3: You know, John Gruden going in, yeah, and and may

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Speaker 3: And and you know Gruden was a heck of a

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Speaker 3: Will see whether that works out or doesn't work out.

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Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers up next. They get a B minus. Their

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Speaker 2: biggest move was trading address for Brian Burns. The movie

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Speaker 2: he liked was trading for wide receiver Deontae Johnson. The

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Speaker 2: they've got a young quarterback, right, who is not the

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Speaker 2: and that's why they overpaid on Robert Hunt.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's right. You know you have to build. The

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Speaker 3: idea is to build a team. Right, you're a basketball fan,

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Speaker 3: you know, you're the New York Knicks. Back in the day,

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Speaker 3: you draft Patrick Ewing. It turns out he's a much

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Speaker 3: but what's his deficiency rebounding? So what do you have

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Speaker 3: rebound next year. Now, Charles Oakley is not a great

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Speaker 3: a team, but you're identifying the most important player for

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Speaker 3: the next back in the day, that was clearly Patrick Ewing,

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Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame player for Carolina. It's Bryce Young.

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Speaker 3: You threw your chip, you threw all in last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so again we talked about five years from now, four

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Speaker 3: In the meantime, you have to be able to give

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, moving on, now we're into the Bees. All right,

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Speaker 2: straight bees. It's like my time in high school or yeah,

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Speaker 2: you get the Tennessee Titans. Their biggest move trading for

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Speaker 2: cornerback Lagerius Snead. The movie he liked was signing center

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Speaker 2: Lloyd Cushenberry. The third and the movie disliked was failing

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Speaker 2: to trade down in the second round.

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Speaker 3: That's your Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's a rough one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of nitpick.

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Speaker 2: You didn't trade down in the second round. Well, that's

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Speaker 2: fans say that all the time. Well why didn't you

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Speaker 2: trade down and do this? Well, it takes two to tango.

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Speaker 2: Somebody has to want to come up right a second round,

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Speaker 2: that's right. So I thought that had a good offseason.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I I'm alright with that.

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Speaker 2: You're still stuck with a quarterback who I'm not sold on.

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Speaker 2: I think I think Mason Rudolphin's up starting games for

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Speaker 2: them this year, and not because of injury. I think

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Speaker 2: out of necessity, because I think they feel like they

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Speaker 2: can win now. In that division and I don't know

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good for them for thinking that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers get a beer a bee.

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Speaker 2: Their biggest move was resigning safety Anteline Winfield. The movie

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Speaker 3: Good for Baker. You know, I really thought, excuse me,

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, I'm with you. But when you don't

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Speaker 3: I think that you know for me and we'll see.

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Speaker 3: But the benchmark for that is Daniel Jones, Like, like,

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Speaker 2: Seattle is up next. They get a b Their biggest

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Speaker 3: Declining player, yeah again, but.

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Speaker 2: You traded for him?

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Speaker 3: under Mason Rudolph, they had big wins down the stretch,

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Speaker 2: Bigger than going into Seattle and winning.

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Speaker 3: Right, they had to beat Cincinnati, and I don't care

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Speaker 3: Last year, they went on the road and beat Gino

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Speaker 3: I think Geno Smith bouncing back and carving out a

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Speaker 3: career is a great story. Absolutely, I don't. I think

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Speaker 2: Eh, yeah, yeah, I'm with you, I'm with you. The

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Speaker 2: move was not trading any of their wide receivers. The

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Speaker 2: they're all in it to win it this year, yes,

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Speaker 3: Right, So I think that when you talk about when

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Speaker 3: to take a couple of years to develop, Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's a situation San Francisco's in right now. One of

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Speaker 3: these receivers is not going to be there next year, right,

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Speaker 3: No doubt going to be gone to them. And now

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Speaker 3: I have no problem with that selection at all.

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Speaker 2: Next up, are you were Pittsburgh. They get a B.

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Speaker 2: Biggest high B just a bright. The biggest movie was

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Speaker 2: trading for quarterback Justin Fields. The movie he disliked was

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Speaker 2: trading wide receiver Deontay Johnson for cornerback Dante Jackson. Now,

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Speaker 2: had to give up something there, and if you did,

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Speaker 2: and you've upgraded your defense, and where now it's a

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Speaker 2: which I think it has the potential to be. And

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Speaker 2: you've upgraded at the quarterback position, and your offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 3: I'm really I'm really high in the Steelers. I really am.

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Speaker 3: With the caveat being what are you going to get

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Speaker 3: the caveat in the NFL way, What are you going

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Speaker 3: heading into this season. They could not get any consistent

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Speaker 3: Mitch Trubisky wound up, you know, costing them because he

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Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph went three to zero down the stretch. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so that's that's your quarterback situation last year. Now you've

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Speaker 3: it's hard for me not to see that as an upgrade.

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Speaker 2: That might be the best running quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 3: He's at least intriguing for sure. Right. Then you bring

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Speaker 3: you sign at last count two thousand tight ends in

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Speaker 3: the offseason, right, because that's what Arthur Smith utilizes and

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Speaker 3: do you still need another receiver on offense? Yes, because

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Speaker 3: look maybe they think they've got that. You know, Van

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Speaker 3: Yes you do, but you signed Sutton, you put them

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Speaker 2: Now you've got You're better at cornerback. You're better at

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Speaker 3: And if you if I can't believe Patrick Queen, wasn't it.

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Speaker 3: I don't see. I just don't see any weaknesses. And

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Speaker 3: they're better on special teams by getting a punter and

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Speaker 3: They should be better on special.

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Speaker 3: It's not insignificant. You know, at one point at the

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Speaker 3: let's let's give these positive yards an offense. The Steelers

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Speaker 3: that's not Again, that's not insignificant. I don't care where

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Speaker 2: For team that wants to run the football and play defense,

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Speaker 3: Yes, And if you're going to have if you're going

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Speaker 3: That's what the Steelers did when they were great in

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Speaker 2: Guess watch three straight sacks and that way our offense

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Speaker 3: We have now dictated what you have to do. So

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Speaker 2: Think about this, and I actually tracked a couple of

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Speaker 3: For the season. Yeah, that's the season. And that's incredible.

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Speaker 3: That's a great statistic because what happens now when TJ.

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Speaker 3: Watt knows they have to throw the ball, when Alex

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Speaker 3: Highsmith knows they have to throw the ball, it's over.

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Speaker 3: It's over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you just you just it's just it's the end

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Speaker 2: of the Super Bowl against the Cardinals, right where, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we're just gonna go get a couple of sacks and

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Speaker 2: get off the field here and it's over done.

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Speaker 3: And I love having that speeded inside linebackers. To me,

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Speaker 3: Patrick Queen might be the biggest offseason pickup. And you

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Speaker 3: know when you go back again and and I know,

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Speaker 3: different coordinators, but don't forget that. You know, Larry Foot

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Speaker 3: and James Ferrier they might combine for ten sacks a year,

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Speaker 3: right they might. Well, Patrick Queen, he might have six

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Speaker 3: sacks this year coming out of that inside line.

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Speaker 2: Great coming up the middle. Absolutely, let's get to another

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Speaker 2: break here. We've really turned this into a conversation. Rob

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Speaker 2: typically like it. Yeah, this is nice. We're gonna take

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Speaker 2: a break. We're doing the Seth Walder or grades for

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Speaker 2: the offseason. Of course, just did the Pittsburgh Steelers, who

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Speaker 2: got a solid B, A solid high B. There're a

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Speaker 2: three to zero student.

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Speaker 3: You know that says they're like a three point you know,

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Speaker 3: two six. They're they're not quite last year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, that's right, they're high honors or honors. I

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Speaker 2: guess shit, they're an honor student. But he is Rob

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Speaker 2: King sitting in for the vacationing Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 2: sitting in for the vacationing Matt Williamson, and we're going

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Speaker 2: through Seph Walters grades here on ESPN for every team's offseason.

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Speaker 2: We just did the Pittsburgh Steelers. They got a B

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Speaker 2: on their grade. I can't imagine there are too many

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Speaker 2: teams ahead of them here, but we'll go and continue

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Speaker 2: to dig into this. What we haven't seen yet, surprisingly

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Speaker 2: is another AFC North we have, which is shocking to

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Speaker 2: me because I thought the Baltimore Ravens had an awful offseason.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we'll see what he says.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what he says about that they are not.

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Speaker 2: But the Cincinnati Bengals, okay, all right, their biggest move

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Speaker 2: not trading wide receiver t Higgins or defensive end Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 2: That is a big move. But will it bite them

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Speaker 2: on the behind if those guys know they're not in

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Speaker 2: the long term plans?

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Speaker 3: And incentive though, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: There's some incentive, But is there there's also incentive to

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Speaker 2: not necessarily go out there. If I'm you know what,

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Speaker 2: there's a difference between being hurt and injured. I'm hurting

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Speaker 2: right now, and I don't want to put bad tape

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Speaker 2: out there, so I'm just gonna sit this one out.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say that I'm injured. T Higgins is

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Speaker 2: coming off an injured injury season already. I just wonder,

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Speaker 2: you know, if they get into a situation where the

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Speaker 2: hammy's a little sore late in the year, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: sit this one.

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Speaker 3: Out, or is there enough information of them around the league?

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Speaker 3: This is how I would say that where that becomes

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Speaker 3: a plus man. He gutted it out there, He gutted it. So,

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Speaker 3: I mean that's the thing they like. There are very

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Speaker 3: few secrets in the league right there. Everybody's clandestine, cloak

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Speaker 3: and dagger, and you know, you can't do this and

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Speaker 3: you can't do that. But teams, no, I think. I

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Speaker 3: think teams I understand. I think what they're doing, which

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Speaker 3: is they are saying, and I happen to agree with

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Speaker 3: them that they were a legitimate Super Bowl contender, so

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Speaker 3: let's try to win. You know, at some point we

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Speaker 3: talk about building teams, right at some point when you

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Speaker 3: come you know, if you're Sean Payton right now, I

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Speaker 3: think for the most part, and maybe maybe you know. Look,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he wants to win as many games as

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Speaker 3: he can. But to some degree, when you're a new

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Speaker 3: coach and a new regime coming in, you're selling somewhere

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Speaker 3: over the rainbow. Some well, we're gonna be great. When

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Speaker 3: we got on the other side of the rainbow, Oh my, guys, here,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna be good. But at some point you also

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Speaker 3: have to say, Okay, we're at the end of the rainbow, man,

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Speaker 3: this is the pot of gold. Let's go for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I think it. I think Cincinnati is should feel

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Speaker 3: the way they apparently feel, which is we are a contender.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The movie he liked for them was signing defensive

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Speaker 2: tackle Sheldon Rankins. Stopping the run was an issue for

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Speaker 2: them last year. Movie disliked was losing cornerback Shodobi a

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Speaker 2: woozy A in free agency. We'll see. I mean, losing

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Speaker 2: DJ Reader for them was a big loss. I believe,

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Speaker 2: I don't know that Rankins is as good a player

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Speaker 2: as Reader, but they didn't have Reader down the stretch

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Speaker 2: because he tore that ACL late in the year.

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Speaker 3: So and they've been more a little bit more of

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Speaker 3: a to me, a rotational defense. They've always had like

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Speaker 3: four solid defensive tackles to me, more than they've had

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Speaker 3: a single Cam Hayward for example.

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Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, the next team up is the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 2: They also get a B. So I don't know how

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Speaker 2: you start these.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's hear it.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if these are in alphabetical order in terms

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Speaker 2: of I think they must be. They must be. So

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Speaker 2: they're big move re signing defensive tackle Justin Mattabuuke. I

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Speaker 2: completely agree. The movie liked was signing running back Derrick

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Speaker 2: Henry for only nine million dollars fully guaranteed. The movie

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Speaker 2: he disliked was losing guard Kevin Zeitler in free agency.

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Speaker 2: I could also throw on there trading offensive tackle Morgan

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Speaker 2: Moses and the Jets. Their offensive line is a mess

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Speaker 2: right now. They don't know who their starters are. They

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Speaker 2: got questions, and I think I think it's a troublesome

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Speaker 2: for them, and it's you know, I think it's going

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Speaker 2: to be a a big, big issue for them. You're

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Speaker 2: also replacing Patrick Queen with with Simpson, who was a

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Speaker 2: third round draft pick last year. We've seen rookie linebackers

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Speaker 2: struggle at the NFL level or young linebackers struggle at

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Speaker 2: the NFL on the on the inside for sure, because

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Speaker 2: of so much it's thrown at him. You also lost

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Speaker 2: your defensive coordinator, which is a big deal. I don't

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Speaker 2: know that they're going to be as good this year

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Speaker 2: as they have been.

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Speaker 3: I think I think your instincts are correct. I do

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Speaker 3: quite not al Lamar, Lamar j Lamar.

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Speaker 2: You added again, Derrick Henry covers up some of the

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Speaker 2: some of those offensive line issues. It's not a worse

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Speaker 2: line than what he ran behind last year in Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: But your your your left tackle. Ronnie Stanley was a

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Speaker 2: rotational player last year and you're paying him way a

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Speaker 2: lot of money to be a like He was rotating

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Speaker 2: in and out like a messenger guard last year.

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Speaker 3: I think, going back to the Chuck Nolla days under

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Speaker 3: Paul Brown, the messenger guard love it. You know, when

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Speaker 3: you when you look at Baltimore, I will say this

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Speaker 3: about Baltimore, unpopular to say to the Steelers fan base

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Speaker 3: that's listening, but they're extremely well run organ.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at the two or half

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Speaker 3: to is, they're almost mirror and I think that's by

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Speaker 3: design with Baltimore, but because Baltimore looking at what the

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Speaker 3: Steelers do and trying to emulate it in some ways.

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Speaker 2: So just assume that. And I've seen this assumption out there. Well,

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Speaker 2: Baltimore always says the next guy ready to go, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know that that's the case on their offensive line.

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Speaker 3: I agree. So again we talk about these situations about

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Speaker 3: where you're feeling, like, what are you feeling about this

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Speaker 3: guy being drafted? Well, I have my reservations. However, you

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Speaker 3: know there's a caveat. So my reservations are I see

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Speaker 3: the same thing you see, who's going to block? But

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Speaker 3: my caveat is they always do seem to find a way.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see. But I'm with you, I don't see

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Speaker 3: that as a B off season for the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: The next team up is in New York Jets. They

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Speaker 2: get a B plus. Their biggest move was trading for

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Speaker 2: edge rusher Hassan Reddick. But he's skipped all your stuff.

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Speaker 2: He wants a new contract. You trade it for him.

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Speaker 2: You've taken the reservation, but you haven't held the reservation

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Speaker 2: with him. He's not happy. He wasn't happy in Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: and now he's not happy with you. What made you

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Speaker 2: think that you're gonna trade for this guy who wants

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Speaker 2: a new contract in Philly. You trade for him, You're

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Speaker 2: not going to give him a new contract, at least

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Speaker 2: you haven't yet, and he's going to be happy about that.

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Speaker 3: I want hard Knocks to go back and do the

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Speaker 3: Jets again. That's what I want. That's what I want.

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Speaker 2: The move he loves signing off with tackle Tyron Smith.

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Speaker 2: The move he disliked was retaining offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett.

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Speaker 3: We are and this is the power of the quarterback

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Speaker 3: position and the power of stardom. Aaron Rodgers is a star.

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Speaker 3: He's a star beyond the NFL. We're seeing him on

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Speaker 3: Jeopardy and he's got opinions on things and all these

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Speaker 3: other things.

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Speaker 2: He's out there a lot, dating starlets and easy right.

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Speaker 3: He's doing all these things that makes him a big deal.

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Speaker 3: And he's coming off a rough injury at an.

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Speaker 2: Advance, so all that different from Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 3: Man, I've I've got a big eyebrow raised. I think

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is, and man Patrick Mahomes is maybe going

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Speaker 3: to change my mind. I think Aaron Rodgers is the

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Speaker 3: single most talented quarterback I've ever seen in my life.

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Speaker 3: His throwing skills unbelievable, to the point where I think

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Speaker 3: he almost gets a little lazy, like I'd almost like

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Speaker 3: to see better football out of him because he can

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Speaker 3: make all these strolls his feet are on ground. Nobody

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Speaker 3: can make the throws he can make that I've ever

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Speaker 3: seen play football. But father time, as they always say,

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Speaker 3: everybody right. So we'll see about the New York Jets.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, and they you know you like them

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Speaker 2: signing Tyron Smith. He's an older guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And by the way, let me say, Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: and the Jets being good would be a great story,

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Speaker 3: like the Jets being good last year coming off a

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Speaker 3: hard knocks would have been a great story. But obviously

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Speaker 3: Rogers got hurt in the first game. But I do

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Speaker 3: think that, you know, I'm not rooting them for them

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Speaker 3: because from the Steelers' perspective, but there is always the

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Speaker 3: knowledge that they would be really interesting if they were good.

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Speaker 3: Because of Rogers makes him a national story.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, We're one of the B plus is now the

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts somehow get a B plus here. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if they had a better offseason than some of

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Speaker 2: the teams that we just talked about. Their new deal.

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Speaker 2: The biggest moview deals for washoever Michael Pittman junior and

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Speaker 2: DeForest Buckner, the defensive tackle. The movie he liked was

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Speaker 2: signing Pittman for twenty three point three million dollars per year.

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Speaker 2: The movie disliked was signing Joe Flacco as your backup quarterback.

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Speaker 2: When you're to me and Matt's a huge fan of

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, I'd like to see him finished football game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be nice. He's only played four so talented,

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Speaker 3: he's only played four, right, I have no problem he

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Speaker 3: hasn't finished any of them. Why don't you like spring

646
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Speaker 3: in Joe Flacco there?

647
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Speaker 2: Because he's exact opposite of what you what your starter is.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I and I get that. And if you can find.

649
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Speaker 2: Like getting a Tyrod Taylor or someone like that, who right,

650
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: whose skill set matches not not completely, but if they

651
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: got to go from Anthony Richardson to Joe Flacco, they

652
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: basically have to change your offense, right.

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Speaker 3: So I always felt like that's what the Ravens needed

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Speaker 3: to do, and I think they've tried to do that.

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Speaker 3: You know, since they moved on from Flacco, you run

656
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Speaker 3: such a singular offense that it's a completely radical change.

657
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Speaker 3: But I also think that you know, what Joe Flacco

658
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Speaker 3: did last year was pretty remarkable. I mean it's pretty incredible. Yeah,

659
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Speaker 3: and you don't really want him playing. I mean you don't.

660
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Speaker 3: You don't. And if Anthony Richardson is not going to

661
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Speaker 3: start for you in excel, you probably have issues.

662
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Speaker 2: You have big problems.

663
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Speaker 3: So to have that be the biggest problem for them

664
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Speaker 3: in the offseason, I mean, I guess you got to

665
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Speaker 3: choose something. I mean, again we talk about you know,

666
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Speaker 3: it all comes down to Kyler Murray, it all comes

667
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Speaker 3: down to Daniel Jones. It all comes down of these

668
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: quarterbacks whore under the microscope, you know, Anthony Richardson. It's

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Speaker 3: only the sigal comes down to Bryce Young and Richardson

670
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: are in their second years. But there's a lot of expectations.

671
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Speaker 3: These guys need to take big steps forward for their

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Speaker 3: respective teams.

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Speaker 2: No doubt, Cleveland Brown's got a B plus. The Cleveland

674
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Speaker 2: Browns get the best offseason grave for any of the

675
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Speaker 2: AFC North teams. They're big move trading for wide receiver

676
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Speaker 2: Jerry Judy and signing him to a new contract. I

677
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Speaker 2: hated that move.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not.

679
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Speaker 2: I'm a Judy fan at all.

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Speaker 3: That sold.

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Speaker 2: The move he liked was the Judy trade. The movie

682
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Speaker 2: he disliked not trading for quarterback justin fields. You can't

683
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Speaker 2: tell me if that's what you're basing your your your

684
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: great on a b plus that the Steelers, the Bengals,

685
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Speaker 2: and the Ravens all didn't have better off seasons than

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Speaker 2: the Browns.

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Speaker 3: By the way, going back to Pittman, I think that's

688
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Speaker 3: a really interesting signing. So what do you do Like

689
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Speaker 3: Pittman is below that top tier receivers. I think we'd agree, right,

690
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Speaker 3: twenty three million dollars? Is that fair? Is he going

691
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Speaker 3: to hack the game?

692
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Speaker 2: He gets the ball a lot?

693
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Speaker 3: He gets the ball lot.

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Speaker 2: To me, he's kind of like a mon Ross Saint

695
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Speaker 2: Brown light Okay, yeah, and Aman Ross Saint Brown just

696
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Speaker 2: got twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's I think those are always you know,

698
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Speaker 3: if you're fascinated by the team building aspect of the NFL,

699
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Speaker 3: which I am. When you talk about again, salary cap,

700
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Speaker 3: it's the same thing with you know, if you're talking

701
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Speaker 3: about the Penguins. Hey, you spent four point five million

702
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 3: on this winger? Okay, is he going to impact this?

703
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: Should we have paid six million? Should we have paid

704
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Speaker 3: two million and gotten? You know? Where are you in

705
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 3: that sort of middle class to upper middle class as

706
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Speaker 3: far as impacting things? Anyway? I just wanted to mention that,

707
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Speaker 3: and I don't know, I don't know the answer to that.

708
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 3: It's gonna be it'll be interesting to watch Cleveland Browns.

709
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Speaker 3: I mean, look again, there's another situation where Deshaun Watson

710
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Speaker 3: needs to be a what is it? What do they

711
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Speaker 3: get sixty.

712
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Speaker 2: Million years three million dollars against your cap this year?

713
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Speaker 3: He needs to be the guy.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that. I don't know that he ever

715
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Speaker 2: gets back to that level.

716
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Speaker 3: He If he does, then they're sunk. They can't they can't.

717
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 3: Couldn't they make the playoffs? They've got a really good roster. Yeah,

718
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Speaker 3: they can make the playoffs. Can they win it all

719
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Speaker 3: if Deshaun Watson, No, they can't win. I don't think

720
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Speaker 3: they can win it all. So that's but if he

721
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Speaker 3: comes back, if he's the guy that was in Houston,

722
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: that's a serious team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big if. That's a huge if he

724
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: hasn't been that guy in four years, he hasn't been

725
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: that guy, Chicago Bear's going to be plus. Biggest move,

726
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: of course, drafting quarterback Caleb Williams number one overall movie

727
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: he liked the most, signing Jalen Johnson, the cornerback, to

728
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Speaker 2: a long term deal. The movie he disliked was giving

729
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Speaker 2: running back DeAndre Swift fourteen million. Fully guaranteed, I would

730
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 2: agree with that that was an overpay on DeAndre Swift.

731
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Speaker 2: We'll see about Caleb Williams, I have some questions about

732
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Speaker 2: him as the number one guy. You know, I in

733
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: many ways I like Jayden Daniels better just because of

734
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: what the running ability that he brings to the position.

735
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Speaker 2: I think he's every bit the equals. Is a thrower,

736
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Speaker 2: thrower of the football. And I questioned some of Caleb

737
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Speaker 2: Williams maturity issues.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's it's so it's so much fun to

739
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: do that, right, Like, I mean, you go back to

740
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 3: last year, you know who do you take to take Stroud?

741
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 3: Do you take Bryce Young? Do you take Peyton Manning?

742
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Speaker 2: Or do you take.

743
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 3: Help me out Bryan Leaf? Thank you well? If I can't,

744
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 3: if I, if I.

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00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: I can't remember his name.

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Speaker 3: If I had an issue remembering his name, one, I'm

747
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: going for two, you know. I mean, it shows you

748
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 3: where where the selections went right. One guy's going to

749
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame and the.

750
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Speaker 2: Other guy's hosting a podcast.

751
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: That's right. So you know, it's a fascinating and we'll

752
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: look back at this is where careers are made and

753
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: potentially franchises are made. Did you pick the right guy?

754
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 3: That's so that's why these these draft grades and these

755
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 3: off season grades are so much fun to look into

756
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: and what's going to happen, and it's such a big

757
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: part of the game. The off season is so much fun.

758
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 3: But ultimately we'll see get the right guy.

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Speaker 2: That's get it right. The New England Patriots getting a minus.

760
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: The biggest move drafting quarterback Drake may a movie like

761
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 2: the most signing quarterback Jakobe Brissett, and then the movie

762
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 2: dislike was not signing a veteran guard. Their offensive line

763
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: is a bit of a mess.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I like Brissett like he's a just a pro. Yeah,

765
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, that guy's just a pro and

766
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 3: he gives you a little bit of a backup. And

767
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: again it's gonna come down to that quarterback position.

768
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've only got four teams left on here, Rob,

769
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Speaker 2: so we'll get to those four teams after the break.

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Speaker 2: Here he is Rob King sitting in for a vacationing

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive

772
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Speaker 2: here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back to finish

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Speaker 2: up the show right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is Rob King sitting

778
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Speaker 2: in for Matt Williamson, and we're going over Seth Walters

779
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 2: grades for the offseason. We really dug into this thing

780
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 2: quite a bit here. We've made it through the first

781
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Speaker 2: twenty eight teams. We've got four teams remaining, and I

782
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Speaker 2: got to disagree with this next one with Seth. He

783
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 2: gave the Miami Dolphins and a minus. Their biggest move

784
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: was losing defensive tackle Christian Wilkins and losing guard Robert

785
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: Hunt in free agency. So your biggest move is losing

786
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Speaker 2: two guys. The movie he liked was signing cornerback Kendall

787
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: Fuller the movie Disliked was signing linebacker Jordan Brooks. How

788
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Speaker 2: do you get an A minus out of this?

789
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.

790
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 2: You got You got worse along the lines. You lost

791
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: your best defensive player, Wilkinson was their best defensive player,

792
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: lost one of your starting guards, one of the only

793
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 2: guys on your offensive line that you could count on.

794
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 3: An offensive line that they need to show up right.

795
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Speaker 3: They schemed around it brilliantly.

796
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 2: But how long can you do that and keep upright?

797
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: You paid a ton of money to Jalen Wattle as

798
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: your number two, and now and now Tyreek Hill is

799
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 2: not happy because Jalen Wattle is making as much money

800
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Speaker 2: as it like. That's not an A minus to me.

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00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's not.

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Speaker 3: Man. When when people were talking about this Steer's training

803
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 3: for receiver, I was like, I'll take jail on one.

804
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: Well, we talked, we talked about it on this show.

805
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 2: I like jail from them.

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Speaker 3: You know, well, he's a talented guy. To think of

807
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Speaker 3: him being a number two, my goodness, because I think

808
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: he's in a league where there's you know again, like

809
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: number one starters in baseball? How many are there? Eight

810
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: or ten, maybe including the guy pitching pitch for Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: a couple of nights ago.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: Uh So, to me, I think he's I think he's

814
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: got the potential to be in that kind of conversation.

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Speaker 3: I really like his game. I think he's a terrific player. Again,

816
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: you know they're they're in it to win it.

817
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: Now. Here's the thing. Though, you play in the AFC East,

818
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: you're not in the AFC South. Right, you have to

819
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: play games in Buffalo, New England in the Jets. Some

820
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: of those are gonna be late in the season. You

821
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: ran into this issue in the playoffs last year where

822
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 2: you just can't go out there and play basketball on turf.

823
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: You got to go and be able to win a

824
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Speaker 2: game in December in the snow. And I don't know

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Speaker 2: that you're built to do it.

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Speaker 3: I don't disagree. I mean, I just I don't disagree.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a bad build. I think it's a

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Speaker 2: bad team building.

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Speaker 3: I don't disagree.

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Speaker 2: He's coming over from the Rams where you're playing games. Okay,

831
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Speaker 2: you're you're in the NFC West and you're not going

832
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Speaker 2: to play any bad weather games and you're on you know,

833
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: turf and you're indoors. I'm sorry. That doesn't fly for me.

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Speaker 2: In Miami, win some games early in the season by

835
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Speaker 2: by by winning, you know, scoring fifty. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what's going to happen in late November.

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Speaker 3: And I get you, I get your you know, you know,

838
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Speaker 3: sort of basketball on turf kind of thing. But if

839
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Speaker 3: you're going to go that way, I think you need

840
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: to show up the offensive line. Right. Let's shore up

841
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 3: the offensive line because of those games you have to

842
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 3: win late in the season where you know, you got

843
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Speaker 3: to be able to run the football, run out of clock,

844
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Speaker 3: that kind of thing. And you know, if you want

845
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 3: to ignore the defense, okay, but I do think they're

846
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Speaker 3: a little in between. I think again, I could be

847
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 3: wrong on this, but I think that they're just a

848
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 3: half step below to legit Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I agree. I agree. Next up is the Los Angeles Chargers.

850
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Speaker 2: They get an anus. Their biggest move hiring head coach

851
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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh. The movie liked the most was hiring Harbaugh.

852
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: The movie disliked was not adding a higher quality veteran

853
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Speaker 2: wide receiver. You want to talk about wide receiver groups

854
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: again that are worse than the Steelers, This one certainly qualifies.

855
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: You've got a star quarterback that you're paying fifty five

856
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: million dollars a year and he has nobody, nobody to

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Speaker 2: throw the ball to. He also has nobody to hand

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Speaker 2: the ball to. And you want to run the ball

859
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Speaker 2: apparently forty times a game and you're counting on Gus

860
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Speaker 2: Edwards and JK. Dobbins to do it. I just don't

861
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: know if that's a good They have a good offensive line,

862
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: but I don't know if that's going to work this year.

863
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Speaker 3: Poor JK. Dobbins, by the way, Yeah, I.

864
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Speaker 2: Love the player coming out. He's my number one running

865
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 2: back coming out that year, and he just can't stay healthy.

866
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and by the way, really seemed to be beloved

867
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: by his teammates, Like when he went down that injury

868
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 3: last year, the guys were in tears talking about it,

869
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 3: like he seems to be really a real high character respect.

870
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 2: At one point, you have to look at this and go,

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00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 2: is it ever going to happen?

872
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 3: Or maybe this is the year it happens?

873
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: Right?

874
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 3: Maybe? But I I you know the thing about Herbert

875
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: and how long is this deal?

876
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 2: You know, four or five years?

877
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're I think maybe by locking him up

878
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 3: you're now saying, Okay, well if we have to wait

879
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: a year, well we'll solve that. We got to you know,

880
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 3: we have our quarterback, so we can be patient with

881
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 3: a new coach. Maybe that's some of the thinking. But again,

882
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: you know, years are precious. I hate to lose.

883
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 2: A year and not be don't have him forever, right,

884
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: you know, and you and you're you know, at this

885
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: point in his career, still has a losing record with

886
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 2: all that talent, With all that talent, the Kansas City

887
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: Chiefs get an A minus. Their biggest move was Trey

888
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: cornerback Lagerius sneed to the Titans. The movie liked was

889
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: signing Marquise Brown for seven million dollars a year. The

890
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: movie disliked was the rolling guarantee in Chris Jones' contract.

891
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: I don't know that I would have given him an

892
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: A minus when your biggest move is a loss. I

893
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: don't know how that's an A minus. I just don't.

894
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 3: And is Mark He's Brown going to be the guy?

895
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 3: I mean, that's an awfully good price tag. Yeah, for

896
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: a guy to blow the top off some coverage.

897
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Speaker 2: And I've never I've never been a big fan of

898
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: the player because I think he's too too small to

899
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: be a number one, but he can fly.

900
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he and he can bring something to that

901
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 3: team by doing that and taking some pressure off Kelsey

902
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 3: and those intermediate routes.

903
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes last year was thirty second in the league

904
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: in depth of target.

905
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy?

906
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

907
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: But that also owes you the adaptability. It's one when

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00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 3: they start writing his plaque in you know, in Canton,

909
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: and people start looking into that and they come across

910
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 3: that number, they're gonna be like, wow, Wow, this guy

911
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: is so adaptable.

912
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: This guy beat you anyway.

913
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: He just wants to win.

914
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: Man. Who is it to say he can take hisns

915
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: and beat your right?

916
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what bum Phillip said. I think about Don Shula.

917
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: Our final team on here, the Philadelphia Eagles. They get

918
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: an A. The biggest move is extending wide receivers AJ

919
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 2: Brown and Devonte Smith. Movie liked was swapping edge rusher

920
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 2: Hassan Reddick for edg rusher Bryce Huff and getting a

921
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 2: third round pick in return. And the move he disliked

922
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: was signing Saquon Barkley for twenty six million dollars fully guaranteed.

923
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with that with Barkley with

924
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: this team because they run the football right.

925
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 3: And they want and they are a super Bowl contender.

926
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean they're they're a group of what

927
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 3: you know, ten teams and this changes, right, yeah, Josh. Yeah.

928
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Speaker 3: Nobody had Kurt Warners Rams being a super Bowl content, right,

929
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 3: Nobody had Trent Dilfer's Ravens being a super Bowl contender

930
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 3: and they went out won super Bowls. So, I mean,

931
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: so much changes. It's it's like when we talk about

932
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Speaker 3: strength to schedule, Oh, they have the toughest, Well, do

933
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 3: that changes. Let's play who's on the field price. Yeah,

934
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Speaker 3: Let's let's see what happens.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: But I just I think there. I think they're in

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Speaker 3: that you know, group of six eight teams whatever that.

938
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: Who are right now super Bowl contemers.

939
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Speaker 3: So I don't have any problem with them pushing their

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00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 3: chips into the middle of the table and saying let's go.

941
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Speaker 2: Let's go, let's do it, Rob that's going to do

942
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: for the show today?

943
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 3: Wow, that was easy.

944
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: Been a lot of fun.

945
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: No, No, this is very difficult. I enjoyed.

946
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: You know what we do here. It's like we just

947
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: sat down at the bar we're training camp and had

948
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Speaker 2: this conversation. Fun to do, yeah, uh, but appreciate Rob

949
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Speaker 2: sitting in today for Matt Williamson. Matt will be back

950
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Speaker 2: for my show, our show next Wednesday, coming again on Friday.

951
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Speaker 2: We won't do a show on Monday because Rob's tied

952
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: up with some stuff here and I'll take a day off.

953
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: I deserve one. You deserve one, but that we're going

954
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Speaker 2: to give Justin Miller day off as well. He deserves

955
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Speaker 2: one as well. We appreciate all the work he does

956
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Speaker 2: on the other side there keeping us on the air,

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Speaker 2: and we also appreciate you listening to this edition of

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Speaker 2: The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.