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Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, It's Monday, October twenty seventh, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Where we need to have a talk about the Tush push.

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Speaker 1: It's me and your man, MG Marcus Grand joined by

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Speaker 1: Michael f Florio and Lakwan Jones Tappy Monday. We are

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Speaker 1: most of the way through. Do you have you looked

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Speaker 1: up the German word for Monday?

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Speaker 3: No, we should ask to chat for that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there has to be some type of international

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Speaker 4: name we can give them.

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Speaker 2: Monday.

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Speaker 4: Monday's just me day. That's what I call it really

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Speaker 4: for myself. Yeah, I'm going to the movies today by myself.

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco style according to Google translated is Montag, which

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Speaker 1: means Montag, which means, you know, the one half of

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Speaker 1: that Spencer and Heidi duo is Heidi Monday.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'm having a good Monday though. I mean forty wers loss,

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Speaker 4: I mean Manchester United, we're bad. Falcons lost. Also, that's

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Speaker 4: great for the Rams draft pick, Like, come on.

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Speaker 1: I forgot about the Rams in the Falcons draft pick, which,

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Speaker 1: oh no, we're rooting for the Falcons to be terrible.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure to be trending that way.

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Speaker 1: But also before yesterday, y'all have to be a little nervous.

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Speaker 1: I mean they were looking like they were pulling things

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Speaker 1: together a little bit. Yesterday was a disaster for them.

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Speaker 4: They're so inconsistent. But I mean, we'll get into that later.

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Speaker 4: But I just don't understand what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: Uh well, cousin man, he's washed.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a wrap for Kirk oat Chains after yesterday.

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Speaker 3: His last six games, one touchdown, nine interceptions.

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Speaker 2: Is that bad? Chat? Is that bad?

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Speaker 1: That is bad?

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Speaker 3: Horrible?

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Speaker 2: That seems bad for sure.

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Speaker 1: A lot to dive into on the show today. It

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Speaker 1: was National Tied ends today. We'll sort of recap what

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Speaker 1: that was. I don't know how much we can analyze

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Speaker 1: it because it was just a thing that happened, but

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Speaker 1: we can talk about that.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of what is going on.

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Speaker 1: Well, that was rookie running backs because some of the

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Speaker 1: rookie running backs had interesting days on Sunday. So we'll

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Speaker 1: get into that, waiver wire drops and all that as well.

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Speaker 2: But want to start I actually want.

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Speaker 1: To start with the tush push because I opened the.

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Speaker 2: Show talking about that.

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Speaker 1: Because Florida, you you dropped any text Shane a little

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Speaker 1: bit of something about that because Brian Dabole damn near

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Speaker 1: had an aneurysm on the sideline.

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Speaker 2: On a play where it looked like it looked for

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Speaker 2: all the.

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Speaker 1: World like Jalen Hurts had been stripped of the football.

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Speaker 1: But the play was blown dead, or at least that's

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Speaker 1: what the refs suggested that it.

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Speaker 2: Was blown down.

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Speaker 4: It was on the goal line.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I guess and interest the thing.

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Speaker 1: I look at the tush push as sure, it's legal.

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Speaker 1: It's fine, you run it. It's not the most exciting play,

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Speaker 1: but obviously it's effective and until somebody stops it.

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Speaker 2: Then they're just going to keep running it.

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Speaker 1: But now we've started to get into this area where

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Speaker 1: it is becoming an unfair advantage for the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: One, if they have guys.

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Speaker 1: That are able to get off the ball before the

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Speaker 1: ball is actually snapped, right, if there are guys that

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Speaker 1: are absolutely false starting and it's not being called, that's

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Speaker 1: one advantage.

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Speaker 2: And now if we're.

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Speaker 1: Just gonna blow the play dead because of forward progress

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Speaker 1: when Jalen Hurts is holding it out there and you're

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Speaker 1: not allowed to strip the ball from him, then it

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Speaker 1: does become a truly unfair situation for the defense, and

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Speaker 1: so that I think Florio is where we need to

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Speaker 1: talk about this.

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Speaker 2: It's not so much to play itself.

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Speaker 1: But it is that now that's become such a mainstay

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Speaker 1: of the Eagles offense, the officials have to watch this

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Speaker 1: thing tighter because it really is becoming an unfair advantage.

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Speaker 3: You guys, remember in the offseason, I was like, no,

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Speaker 3: there's one two teams that are doing this at a

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Speaker 3: high rate that cannot be stopped. We should not punish

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Speaker 3: those teams. But now we are. It is the pendulum

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Speaker 3: has from trying to punish those teams to giving that

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Speaker 3: team every single advantage under the sun. Like, Okay, I

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Speaker 3: understand it's a hard play to officiate in live time.

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Speaker 3: Is bang bang? Maybe you can't tell if it's a

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Speaker 3: false start or not. Okay, I get that, But you

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Speaker 3: cannot allow them to jump early and say it's too

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Speaker 3: difficult to officiate and then blow the play dead once

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Speaker 3: they reached it, because like there was less than a half.

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Speaker 3: It was a millisecond between when Jalen Hurts reached out

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Speaker 3: and Thibodeau ripped it away. And that's one of the

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Speaker 3: coolest plays I've ever seen against the Toush push. It

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Speaker 3: was a highlight play that uh Thibodeau got robbed of

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Speaker 3: and everything. But even more than that, it changed the

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Speaker 3: complete game around because it should have been a tie.

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Speaker 3: I believe it was seven to seven at that point.

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Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but it was close and it

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Speaker 3: should have been Giants ball, and instead the Eagles got

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Speaker 3: a touchdown on that very same drive and the game

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Speaker 3: was never really the same. Yeah, like Brian Dables shouldn't

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Speaker 3: have challenged it because they basically told him he wasn't

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Speaker 3: going to win and he kind of was emotional and

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Speaker 3: still challenge it. I get all of that, but I

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Speaker 3: in the last three weeks, I went from someone who

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Speaker 3: was one hundred percent in favor of the Toush push

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Speaker 3: to someone who is one hundred percent in favor of

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Speaker 3: banning it because it's not even the Phillies, the Phillies

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Speaker 3: the Eagles fault, it's the Reps fault. Like you cannot

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Speaker 3: give them every single advantage on this unstoppable play and

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Speaker 3: expect that the league is not going to ban it

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Speaker 3: again this year, so Philly fans Eagles players continue to

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Speaker 3: enjoy it. You got about eight weeks plus the playoffs before.

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Speaker 3: I think this thing gets banned. Overrated, either put.

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Speaker 1: The push or the oh year you're still on the

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Speaker 1: Eagles overrated?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're overrated.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you guys get filed in three. You guys

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Speaker 4: saw you were top of the table. I mean, you

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Speaker 4: guys saw you were a first place seam.

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Speaker 2: We were just happy to shut you up for a week.

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Speaker 3: What does the forty nine ers have to do with

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just looked at Marcus and then it came and

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Speaker 4: it just came into my mind. I mean, you guys

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Speaker 4: saw you were first place seam. Records don't matter. You

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Speaker 4: can't hurt me anymore. I watched that Niner game, and

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Speaker 4: the three.

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Speaker 1: Of us would be just as effective as a pass

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Speaker 1: rush as what the thirteen and the Niners. The Niners

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Speaker 1: defensive line looks like a week three preseason defensive line

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Speaker 1: right now. I would think the three of us, especially

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Speaker 1: since we got a dude who runs a four to five,

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Speaker 1: could be a much more effective pass rush or six

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I was at the track this weekend. I was stretching,

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Speaker 3: So you can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't really hurt me about the Niners right now.

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Speaker 1: I know they got issues. The fact that they are

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Speaker 1: five and three with the Walking Dead is playing with

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Speaker 1: house money.

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Speaker 2: So we're first no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 1: We were just happy to shut you up for a week,

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Speaker 1: for a couple of days, just like you.

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Speaker 4: Guys know you can't shut me up. Do you understand

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Speaker 4: the type of specimen I am. I am a motor

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Speaker 4: that is endless. I'm just saying that Thursday night, that

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Speaker 3: A little quiet. I had worked the next day that

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Speaker 3: I was sleep.

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Speaker 2: We knew you were.

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Speaker 3: We knew you were going to be Honestly, that night

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Speaker 3: that game could have been scheduled at midnight, you would.

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Speaker 2: Have been watching it.

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Speaker 1: I would have been at d MFB on said, playing

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Speaker 1: that game in Sydney, Australia. You would have been up

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Speaker 1: for every single second of it. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: So Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We are going to have another discussion about the tush push.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure in the off season. I would think the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, who were very much at the front

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Speaker 1: of the line for banning it, they may have some

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Speaker 1: company this this offseason. I would think that Brian Dable,

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Speaker 1: John Merra, a lot of the folks in the in

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Speaker 1: the NFC East, probably we are lining up alongside the Packers.

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Speaker 3: What's going to happen is they're they're gonna find a

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Speaker 3: work around, right, Like, it won't look the way it does,

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Speaker 3: but it'll be like a straight snap and then everyone

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Speaker 3: comes and pushes hurts or something like like, they'll find

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Speaker 3: a way.

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Speaker 4: Just play football. Just play football. Man, I'm tired of

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Speaker 4: seeing it. That's where I'm at with it. I just

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Speaker 4: don't want to see it anymore.

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Speaker 1: Well, I would suggest not watching any Eagles games for

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Speaker 1: the rest of the year a lot between now and whenever.

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Speaker 1: The season is over for Philadelphia. So, speaking of which,

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Speaker 1: some really awful news. The season is over for Camp Scataboo.

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Speaker 1: Just a just a horrid, horrid looking ankle injury. Dislocated

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Speaker 2: He went to.

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Speaker 1: A hospital in Philadelphia where he had surgery, but his season,

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Speaker 1: unfortunately is over, which is a shame obviously for him,

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Speaker 1: for the Giants, but for not just fantasy management, for

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Speaker 1: all of us who watch football, because he was just

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Speaker 1: so much fun to watch this season and so unfortunately

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Speaker 1: we're not going to get to see it again this year.

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Speaker 1: So we wish him the best. Hel up quickly come

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Speaker 1: back out there. You are an insane person in the

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Speaker 1: best way possible, so we want to see you.

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Speaker 2: Back on the football field. From a football.

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Speaker 1: Standpoint, though, Floria, and you look at this, obviously, Tyrone

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Speaker 1: Tracy started the year as the RB one was getting

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Speaker 2: That he got hurt and Scataboo took over that gig.

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Speaker 1: Presumably it's going to be Tracy that goes back to

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Speaker 1: being the RB one. Can you expect him to put

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Speaker 1: up the same level of production or something similar to

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Speaker 1: what we saw from Skataboo this year?

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Speaker 3: No No, I broke out the Skataboo shirt today because

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Speaker 3: it's the last time I could wear it all week,

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Speaker 3: all year. Oh that's sick. Yeah, I mean I bought

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Speaker 3: this over the summer when I was saying that Cam

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Speaker 3: Scataboo is a better running back than Tyrone Tracy, and

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Speaker 3: that's why I don't think Tracy can match the production here.

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Speaker 3: I think he could be an RB two or something

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Speaker 3: similar to what we saw last season out of Tracy.

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Speaker 3: He is more explosive than Cam Scataboo, so maybe we

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Speaker 3: get a little bit more big plays but he's not

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Speaker 3: the physical runner, he's not the goal line runner, and

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Speaker 3: he's not the pass blocker that camp Scataboo is. So

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Speaker 3: while he did lead the team in routes yesterday, I

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Speaker 3: do think we'll see a little Devin Singletary sprinkled in

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Speaker 3: here or there. Tracy obviously becomes if he was dropped,

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Speaker 3: and he was dropped in a number of leagues, he

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Speaker 3: becomes the top pick up this week. I think he

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Speaker 3: is someone that you could plug in as a flex

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Speaker 3: or an RB two, but he's not going to be

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Speaker 1: I don't think Brian Dabele has anything out for Devin Singletary.

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Speaker 1: So if you're in a deep league, I would go

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Speaker 4: One out for scatman. Yeah, make sure if Floria's doing

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Speaker 3: And I mean like the bills and then Giant. I

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Speaker 3: My bad New York neighbors Scott and that bet I'd be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, So there's so much fun. Though they are fun.

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Speaker 1: That he is going to be ready for the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six season. I'm obviously Jackson Dart has infused some

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Speaker 1: energy into this offense. He's made it so that Wandell

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Speaker 1: Robinson has been a top twenty fantasy receiver. We know

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Speaker 4: I mean, do you know the fantasy streets that we

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Speaker 4: could TV content too. I mean, obviously, yeah, they're gonna

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Speaker 4: hype him up soon as they see him back on

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Speaker 4: one summer training video for a player you need to

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Speaker 4: shoot to the sky, especially a player like Melite Neighbors. Absolutely,

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Speaker 4: roughly where he possably will go. But I still think

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Speaker 4: he's a first round talent pick that I'm willing to

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Speaker 4: take that chance on. I mean, honestly, looking at what

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Speaker 4: it's like, I'm ready to see what the Giants can

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're getting Scat back next year, hopefully he's good.

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Speaker 4: And then obviously Jackson dart is ascending. Solik Neighbors to

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Speaker 4: me seems like a no brainer to me, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: eleven twelve, yeah, I'm going to take him off the board.

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Speaker 4: But you know, when it changes the conversation of how

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Speaker 4: I think we will have to wait and see of

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Speaker 4: like how that kind of bulds out in the summer.

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Speaker 1: I think had he played this full season out all

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Speaker 1: the trajectory he was going.

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Speaker 2: I think we were.

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Speaker 1: Talking about him as a top five pick, easily maybe higher.

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Speaker 1: Now I think, you know, he probably does fall to

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Speaker 1: the back end of that. And it's not even gonna

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Speaker 1: be a full on, you know, pass catching video that

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Speaker 1: we see Laquana. It's not gonna be one of those

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Speaker 1: slow motion like ball in the air he makes the catch.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be him like running cones or running the ladder,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like he's gonna be doing

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Speaker 1: like quick steps on the ladder sort of thing. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: gonna be like figs duck, you know, the adp let's.

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Speaker 2: Go through the roof.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll be like a fourth round pick in

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Speaker 3: early best Ball, and then it'll it'll climb all.

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Speaker 2: July and August.

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Speaker 4: Bro That's what the fantasy streets do. Man, When folks

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Speaker 3: I would much prefer him as a second round pick.

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Speaker 3: I love neighbors. First is.

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Speaker 1: Coming off of knee, as every fantasy relevant player does

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Speaker 1: in the offseason. There will be the day that that

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Speaker 4: So whose squads are going to make the ADP jump.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to say he's a second round pick. I

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Speaker 4: feel like we've gotten over the whole quads thing. I

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Speaker 4: think Dave has ruined Dad remember him, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Davis, AJ Dillon.

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Speaker 1: I think I think I think we've we've grown out

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Speaker 1: In Cleveland, Quinn Shawn Judkins left the Browns game with

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Speaker 1: a shoulder injury. Florio' is this because I dropped Jerome Ford?

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Speaker 2: That I did? I fudge up by dropping Jerome Ford

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Speaker 1: Dropped him in the morning because I needed to make

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Speaker 3: I don't think you did. For a number of different reasons.

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Speaker 3: Jerome Ford has just been the RB two all Like,

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Speaker 3: remember before Judkins was back, we were like, Dylan Sampson

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Speaker 3: the RB three. I think the Browns have a set

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Speaker 3: change like yesterday with Judkins out, Sampson was the one

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Speaker 3: it's very possible. We haven't like this is speculation. We

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Speaker 3: haven't really heard any official at least I haven't seen

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Speaker 3: he's not, I think Dylan Sampson is the back you

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Speaker 3: at all.

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Speaker 1: All Right, great, I was a channeling Allen from the

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Speaker 1: the hangover.

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Speaker 2: I fudged up, guys. I fudged up. Oh down in

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Speaker 2: New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: Apparently the Saints have had enough of watching the Rattler

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Speaker 1: The last couple weeks have been pretty bad. He had

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Speaker 3: I started them in a couple of leagues, but I

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Speaker 1: So anyway, Ratley gets bench, Tyler Shuck comes in and

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Speaker 2: So the kwan, now what now, what do we do?

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Speaker 4: I want to start off by saying, I don't understand

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Speaker 4: The offense needed a spark, but for them to bench

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Speaker 4: a TikTok video on my page right now that I

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Speaker 4: He took a three yard game to Brandon Cooks when

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Speaker 4: calm and collected. This is what I'm talking about in

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Speaker 4: he's older than most of my cousins that came to

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Speaker 4: New Orleans Saints don't have any idea what they have

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Speaker 4: at quarterback and spener. Rather, I think benching this guy

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Speaker 4: during this game was one of the games you let

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Speaker 4: Because again, of course, the turnovers were awful. I mean

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Speaker 3: Type of rhythm.

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Speaker 4: But I look at this as like, now, do we

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Speaker 4: great against the blitz. He has a one hundred and

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Speaker 4: look at Tyler Schuck under no pressure, he's not making

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Speaker 4: is like, look, Saints pass catchers, you still start them

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Speaker 4: Chris Olave, Juwan Johnson, Rashisha Head. But if Tyler Shuck

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Speaker 4: Spencer Radler on the sideline three sixteen rattlesnink I like

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Speaker 4: to call him when he's been kicking butt and being

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Speaker 1: Well, I think the next step in the process is

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Speaker 1: You know, do was this a hey, we just want

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Speaker 1: is this like a hey, we gotta we gotta try

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Speaker 1: you know, are we going to see.

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Speaker 4: Tyler Shuck is not the answer at all.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying I don't think the answers on their roster.

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Speaker 3: I think they have two bad quarterbacks right now. Spence

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Speaker 4: Pass catches the opportunity to make big plays, Like if

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Speaker 4: Shruck should be well more developed than where the heck

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Speaker 2: But what happens.

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Speaker 1: What happens if he gets first team snaps all week, right,

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Speaker 1: like as opposed to being thrown in the fire of

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00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,120
Speaker 1: a game that was pretty much lost at.

442
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Speaker 4: That point the entire offense. No disrespect to Chris o'

443
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,359
Speaker 4: lobby because he's been balling in Juwan Johnson it's thirteen, Like,

444
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 4: it doesn't make a difference. There's nobody else out there

445
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 4: that has that enough ability to first team reps. Like

446
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,439
Speaker 4: chemistry you build within you know, practice and everything. But

447
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,600
Speaker 4: Tyler Shuck is not good. I'm here to say that.

448
00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,000
Speaker 2: Don't get it, don't get a twist. I'm not.

449
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,439
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here trying to kape up for Tyler

450
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 1: Shuck or Spencer Rattler.

451
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 2: I don't. I have no real strong.

452
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 1: Feeling about the state's quarterback situation other than what Florio said,

453
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 1: like their quarterback of the future is not well.

454
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,919
Speaker 4: Clearly, I have Juwan Johnson in every league and I

455
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 4: need him thrive.

456
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 1: So like there's you know, there's no there's no me

457
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 1: just saying that one guy should definitively be the answer

458
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 1: over the other guy. I just you know, I think

459
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 1: for our purposes now, I just need to know what

460
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 1: what is Kellen Moore thinking? You know, where is he

461
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 1: going to go? Next week? They're coming out to Los

462
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 1: Angeles to play the Rams, So whoever it is, you know,

463
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 1: they've got to deal with Jared Verse, right, They've got

464
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 1: to deal with those guys up front. And I just

465
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 1: want to know, can I have more confidence in Chris o'lave?

466
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:46,439
Speaker 2: Uh?

467
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 1: You know, is where she She's still going to be

468
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 1: a saint this time next week.

469
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,120
Speaker 3: Him and Olave potentially could be gone, right.

470
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just there's there are questions I want answered,

471
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 1: and so that's why I just want to know is

472
00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 1: it Shuck or is it Rattler so that I can

473
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: other decisions, Like Kellen Moore, you do what you're gonna do,

474
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 1: but you let us know so that we can.

475
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,360
Speaker 2: All plan accordingly. That's all I.

476
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 3: Got don't play shuck.

477
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was National tight Ends Day, which is like,

478
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 1: we should just called National tight Ends Weekend, right because

479
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 1: technically I guess it started on Thursday with Ronde Gadsden

480
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: going ham on the Vikings. But then I did look

481
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 1: at what we've gotten so far over the weekend, including

482
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Speaker 1: Thursday and the games on Sunday as well. So here

483
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 1: are the results so far from National tight Ends Day.

484
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 1: Tight Ends in week eight accounted for one hundred and

485
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 1: thirteen catches, two hundred and three yards, thirteen total touchdowns,

486
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: with Tucker Craft and Dallas Goddard each having two apiece.

487
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: And this is with Jake Ferguson, who is the tight

488
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 1: end one right now, getting one target, zero catches and

489
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 1: zero yards. I find that out the hard way because

490
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 1: my wife has Jake Ferguson on her team, and she

491
00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: screened at you as.

492
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 2: I was dinner last night. She's like, how did I

493
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 2: get a zero? Like?

494
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 1: What on your whole team? She's like, no from Ferguson.

495
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I was like that was There's

496
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: a lot of points in that game. She's like he

497
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 1: got a zero. It's like, oh, like, welcome to Fantasy.

498
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: Sorry about your look. And then I can do about that.

499
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: But the tight end one gave you absolutely nothing. There's

500
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: still two tight ends left to play on this weekend.

501
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 1: Travis Kelce, who's the tight end eight, and Zach Ertz,

502
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: who's the tight end fourteen, will play on Monday Night Football.

503
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 1: Of course, it's not gonna have his normal quarterback with

504
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: Marcus Marty.

505
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 3: Schedule makers, the National tight End's Day is a day,

506
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: it is not a week, right, Travis Kelsey didn't play

507
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 3: on National tight End Day, Brock Bauers didn't play on

508
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 3: National tight End Day, Trey McBride didn't play on National

509
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 3: tight End Day. Like, let's schedule the best tight ends

510
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 3: to be playing on their day, right, Like that that's

511
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 3: my thinking.

512
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Speaker 1: Well, we know it's the third weekend in October, so

513
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: let's try to not have by mcgeddon on that weekend

514
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: going forward. Right, we sort of know when it's coming,

515
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: so we can sort of plan accordingly for that.

516
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 4: So I'm not starting Darnell Washington hoping for a touchdown,

517
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 4: you know, Like, let's not do that. Trey McBride should

518
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 4: have been he should have been the main guy for

519
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 4: tight End Day.

520
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: That's on you.

521
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 2: That should be a general rule, not just a national.

522
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 4: I was following the trend that Florio was calling a

523
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 4: three touchdown to the tight end position. I'm like, hey,

524
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 4: all three of these guys are going to be involved.

525
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 4: But we did not get a Darnell Washington touchdown.

526
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: Now, No, he didn't get much out of the hut

527
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: of the Steelers this past weekend.

528
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, it was. It was not great.

529
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 4: John new almost had a nice catch, though he almost

530
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 4: had a good one.

531
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Speaker 1: Or shoes in hand, grenades, man or grenades. Let's take

532
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: a breaker, comeback talking about wtf is going on besides

533
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson giving you a donut plus some rookie running

534
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: backs of note from this weekend that's coming up next

535
00:23:54,359 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Well, as always, there's

536
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of weirdness going on around the NFL

537
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: when it pertains the fantasy football things that we did

538
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: not anticipate seeing that either really good or really bad.

539
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 2: And so we're going to.

540
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: Dive into that with a little bit of wtf is

541
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: going on? And we will start down in Houston. I

542
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: talked about it already. The forty nine er pass rush

543
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: was stuck in rush hour, apparently because they did not

544
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: get anywhere near CJ.

545
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 2: Stroud all game long. Stroud his first.

546
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: Three hundred yard passing game since Week five of last year.

547
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: I skeated Blue skyed whatever, posted.

548
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 2: Hey man, that's what they are, right, that's the whole things.

549
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 2: That's the sky. I don't know. I didn't make it

550
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 2: up anyway. That was following I posted.

551
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: I posted on Blue Sky that at some point it

552
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: looked like CJ. Stroud and the Houston Texans had turned

553
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: into the Night into Warren Moon in the nineteen ninety

554
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 1: Houston Oilers, the way they were moving the ball up

555
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: and down the field in Florida. Is this just because

556
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 1: the Niner defense is awful right now? Or is it

557
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: possibly that maybe the Texans have figured something out.

558
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 3: No, it's all about the matchup, And I think CJ.

559
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: Stroud is a straightforward of a quarterback as there is

560
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 3: in fantasy right Like I was saying, he was a

561
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 3: streamer last week because of the matchup, because if you

562
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: go through his game logs, his best games they were

563
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 3: previously the Titans and the Ravens and now the forty

564
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 3: nine Ers are all against teams that struggle to create pressure.

565
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 3: He was good under pressure yesterday if you want to

566
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 3: even say that they got pressure on him, and I

567
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 3: think this goes back to college with him. That was

568
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 3: my biggest concern with Stroud as a prospect was like

569
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 3: what is he going to look like under pressure? We

570
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 3: were talking about on the Sunday Show yesterday with Weis

571
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 3: and Yam, like trading liaronmy Tunsel was such a bad

572
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 3: idea and they kind of ruined this offense. But next

573
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 3: week they get the Broncos, who create the most pressure

574
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 3: in the NFL. So CJ. Stroud is one hundred percent

575
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 3: a sit for me in that one. But I think

576
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: and I think people are catching on now. The forty

577
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 3: nine ers are a team where you stream quarterbacks against,

578
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 3: like next week Jackson Dart gets them. I'm playing Jackson

579
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 3: Dart in all my leagues that I have him, because

580
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 3: teams that to me, I think even more than like

581
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 3: we always look at defenses like from a secondary land

582
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 3: point a point of view of how it matches up

583
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: with the quarterbacks. But for me, I always start with

584
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: pressure because if you don't have time to throw, you're

585
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 3: not going to be successful. If you do have time

586
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 3: to throw, more often than not, you will find success.

587
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 3: So forty nine ers to me have quickly become a

588
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 3: must play matchup when it comes to quarterbacks against them.

589
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely think you had quarterbacks. So even

590
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: before that, I mean I was advocating play your running

591
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: backs against them because they have not been very strong

592
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 1: against the run.

593
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: Losing Fred Warner.

594
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: Definitely is not going to help that situation. But also

595
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: not having the most of means there's really nobody there

596
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: to get after the quarterbacks. So yeah, I definitely would.

597
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: Maybe next year co signed Jackson Dart maybe maybe, or

598
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: maybe the dead line they go out and get a

599
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: pass rusher.

600
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: Who knows things could happen.

601
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 3: Now, ok you good luck explaining this next one on

602
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 3: the rundown. By the way, I can't listen. I was

603
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 3: gonna crash yesterday. Listen.

604
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 4: Can we skip forward to it Marcus and the Jon

605
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 4: Robinson because I literally was looking at this game and

606
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, yeah, this is full sin like b

607
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 4: Jeon Robinson against the Dolphins defense. They allow the most

608
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 4: rushing yards, And I'm thinking, like, Okay, Zach Robinson understands

609
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 4: the agenda, but Kirk Cousins, he ain't it, brother, And

610
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 4: I honestly went back and tried to watch, like what happened.

611
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 4: Maybe the Dolphins defensive line, you know, maybe they stepped

612
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 4: up and played a little better, But it was just

613
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 4: weird plays in usage between Bijon and Tyler Aljier, Like

614
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 4: both of their longest runs, Like Algier's longest run was

615
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 4: six yards, and then Bjon's longest runing was seven six seven.

616
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 3: I didn't even do that.

617
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, it's like, I

618
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 4: hope this is an out liar. The fumbling was like

619
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 4: weird to see because like it's the second one this season.

620
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 4: And then it's like there's usually games where Zach Robinson

621
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 4: hits that switch for Bjon Robinson, where okay, he's not

622
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,479
Speaker 4: getting it done on the ground, he's averaging less than

623
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 4: four yards per carry or three yards of carry or

624
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 4: however how bad it is for Bejeon on the ground

625
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 4: to where he'll end up having like one hundred receiving

626
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 4: yards in the game. So where was this type of

627
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 4: usage for him in a game that obviously needed some

628
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 4: spark and put the ball in your best player's hands,

629
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 4: I mean, Drake London's out.

630
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 3: What happened?

631
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 4: Like, I seriously didn't understand how the Dolphins went, how

632
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 4: did Tua put a four touchdowns? By the way, I mean,

633
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 4: like and nobody saw that coming.

634
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 3: He saw over the line.

635
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 4: Apparently Atlanta must got some good food or something to

636
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 4: get them guys motivated to play, because I have no

637
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 4: idea how this game turned out this way. To look

638
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 4: at the score with Bejeon less.

639
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: Than six points, Tyler l'siar ran more routes than Beijon yesterday,

640
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 3: like and no world, should that ever be a thing?

641
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: That is why b John Robinson had a grand total

642
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: of twelve touches for forty eight total scrimmage yards.

643
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: I don't wanna, I don't want to say who, but

644
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: someone that is very we all were I'll tell you

645
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: guys off air, but someone that we all trust in

646
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: their insight. Uh texted me yesterday and was like that

647
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: this usage for Bijon is a fire bull offense. Yes,

648
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: because it's been multiple games where like they're not using

649
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: him properly, like and this calls them wins.

650
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: I mean, especially when you're the head coach calls him

651
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: the best player in football and somehow you're not just

652
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: feeding him with touches.

653
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 3: I mean enough, Tyler Elsiere, man, like I get it

654
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 3: that's your guy or whatever, Like enough he's a plotter.

655
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: Man.

656
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: Him and Zach Sharbona should like shake hands. They should

657
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: just you know, be on a text change.

658
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, like it's it's reminded me

659
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 3: of seattle Man, where it's obviously Bijon is still good

660
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: enough where you use him.

661
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: But like ugh mm, things that were a little more positive,

662
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: especially really for your club, Florio.

663
00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 3: Uh.

664
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: The Bills went out and just hammered the Panthers this weekend,

665
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: and James Cook was just bananas.

666
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: Eleven point four yards per carry.

667
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: Against a defense that to that point had been fairly good.

668
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: Against the run.

669
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: Is it time for the Bills to just build the

670
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: whole plane out of James Cook right now?

671
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: They kind of don't have a choice because I will say,

672
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: like Josh isn't playing his best, but they are real.

673
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 3: There was a play yesterday where they had eleven seconds

674
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: and no one got open. Eleven Like that is a

675
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: lifetime in the NFL. But James Cook most rushing yards

676
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: by a Bills player, I'm gonna say the name since

677
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: oj Simpson. Most yards were carried by a running back

678
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: since Derrick Henry back in twenty eighteen, fourth player ever

679
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 3: to have this stat line on less than twenty touches. Like,

680
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: he is incredible. He was worth every cent they paid him.

681
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: And I said it like a few weeks ago on

682
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: Fantasy Live. There's maybe like five or six running backs

683
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: I'd rather have over him rest of season. And yeah,

684
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 3: there's not a whole lot of analysis here besides he's

685
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 3: just amazing.

686
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: It is wild though, because before this year they never

687
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: seemed interested in using him kind of as a true

688
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: workhorse back.

689
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: They would use him, and.

690
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: He was definitely the RB one, but they always see

691
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: the one to get other guys in. Now, since they

692
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: paid him, they're like, well you got paid man, like

693
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: you got tote the rock.

694
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: The thing is like they're still not fully using him,

695
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: Like there's still no meat on the bone here, like

696
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 3: Ty Johnson is getting every third down snap and stuff,

697
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 3: and Ray Davis was involved more than I expected yesterday.

698
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: That was probably scoreboard related, but there's still meat, Like

699
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: there's still opportunity for him to even exceed the usage

700
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: he has seen, which when they were all zero to

701
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: two in those two games, Bills fans were very much

702
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 3: still pointing that out.

703
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: So, uh, well, we continue, especially for folks who drafted

704
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: James Cook Florio.

705
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 4: But be honest, you're a little nervous in that first

706
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 4: half though, with the Panthers defense, how they're how they

707
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 4: were handling.

708
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: I was at no point.

709
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: Nervous, Lion.

710
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: It was Fame. It was twelve three like halfway through.

711
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 3: It wasn't because of Josh. Josh are struggling. Bro. Josh

712
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: did have played great. I said that, but I what

713
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 3: he was the real predicting this game was James Cook

714
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: is still a Bill and Andy Dalton is still their quarterback.

715
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: Ye Andy stinks, That's what I was gonna say, he stinks.

716
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton continues to help the Bills, continues to please

717
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: Bill's Mafia.

718
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: The gift one way or shout out to him, man,

719
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: I didn't even connect the two.

720
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,959
Speaker 1: The the the two top quarterbacks in Bill's Mafia are

721
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Andy Dalton.

722
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, the team give.

723
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 3: My lifetime.

724
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: Mesgust former Bill now Patriot maccollins. The coin just came

725
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. Seven catches, eighty nine yards. I mean,

726
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: you know we have spent this year. We talked about

727
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: the Patriots in their passing game. You know, we're for

728
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs to have big games. Kay Shawan Boody shows

729
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: up and makes big catches. Hunter Henry does things in

730
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: the offense. Mac Hollins, I mean doesn't even gotta pay

731
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: attention to the Barefoot bandit.

732
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: Now, this is typical behavior by the Patriots. This has

733
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 4: been chasing of what they can do each week. I mean,

734
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 4: next week is I'm gonna say it now, it's Pop

735
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 4: Douglas week. Next week start them, but I mean your

736
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 4: starting lineup because it's gonna be Pop Douglas week. This

737
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 4: is the most annoying situation because I started Stefan Digs

738
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 4: for him the hold me down door in the Bipocalypse

739
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 4: and guess what, it didn't pan out and I had

740
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 4: an opportunity.

741
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: Oh great, yeah, oh that, Oh yeah, he did so

742
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: much work.

743
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 4: I want more, Marcus. He had back to back games

744
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 4: of over one hundred yards. Where's the energy there? He

745
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 4: is your offense, he is your wide receiver one.

746
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: It was purely powered by hate. If we're being off.

747
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 4: I absolutely love that every single week should be a

748
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 4: hate game for Stefon Diggs. Give them the ball, let

749
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 4: him run beyond the sticks like I'm so sick and

750
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 4: tired of trying to like pinpoint what the Patriots can

751
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 4: do each and every week, and Matt Collins going off.

752
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 4: You know what I said when I looked up and

753
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 4: saw that, and I was like, typical, Yeah, that makes sense,

754
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 4: Like it's not like I SI OneD.

755
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 3: It, Like what the heck?

756
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 4: No, this shouldn't even be on the docket for what

757
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 4: the f is going on? Because it's the Patriots, bro.

758
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 4: And then oh, your boy Traveon Henderson, Oh, we.

759
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: Got to update the middle blower.

760
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: Well we'll get to that. We will get to that. Well,

761
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: we'll get we'll get to that in just a second.

762
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: He's going up. The thing about the Patriots is like,

763
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: I think Drake May is a top two or three

764
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 3: MVP candidate right now on a matchup proof. Yeah yeah,

765
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: but he's the only must start on this offense.

766
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah kind of is yeah, which is sort of wild.

767
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: I mean, like we can't trust the pass catchers, the

768
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: running back situation is weird. But Drake May you can

769
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: count on him pretty much every week.

770
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 4: So you know, if I said, pop Douglas Austin Hooper

771
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 4: next week, it's gonna be Austin Hooper week. Next week,

772
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: he is going to blow up for like one hundred

773
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 4: and twenty yards. Let's just have this on tape.

774
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 3: Is Javone Baker still there? Oh?

775
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: Man?

776
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 3: Is he?

777
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: I can't wait for all the posts next week. They

778
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: just like Austin b hooping like that's what's going to

779
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: be just a lot of all over social media. See

780
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: it now, Since we're talking about the Patriots, it's perfect

781
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 1: way to segue to the rookie running back reports and

782
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 1: three guys of note in this one, Travion Anderson. Since

783
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 1: we were on the Patriots, let's start there. Ten Carrey's

784
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: seventy five yards flor we I mean, we'd all been

785
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: sort of joking about this right that it was going

786
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: to happen after the point that everybody had given up,

787
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: Right when people were just like it's over, it's done.

788
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: I'm I'm either benching him or maybe I'm rage dropping him.

789
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: That's when it would happen. Ten for seventy five. Are

790
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: there gonna be a lot of people rushing to the

791
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: waiver wire to get him? And are they going to

792
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: be disappointed next week when it goes back to what

793
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: it was?

794
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 3: Probably because he look, I'm going to talk nicely about Trevion,

795
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 3: but that goal. It wasn't goal on it was a

796
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: red zone of fun. But it was like the Jon

797
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: type fumble, Like Bijon doesn't fumble often, but when he does,

798
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: he like throws it forward.

799
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 2: Today it's like hilarious.

800
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, that's what Travion did and it costs him

801
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: points and then I don't believe we I'd have to

802
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: go back and double check. But watching that game, I

803
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 3: don't think we saw Henderson again the rest of the way.

804
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 3: So that is concerning because if it was Remandre, Mike

805
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 3: Rabol would have a whole word doc typed up about

806
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: how it was in his fault. But since it's Travion,

807
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 3: he has to get benched. But the thing, and I've

808
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: said this for weeks now, like they are not using

809
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 3: him properly. Right, he had three carries on inside runs

810
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 3: yesterday seven yards. He had seven on outside runs, nearly

811
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: ten yards per carry. He turned those into sixty eight

812
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 3: yards and he looked the part. And that is why

813
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: I don't understand they're not using him in the passing game,

814
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 3: which is frustrating. I still think Travion is someone you

815
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: want on your roster, but I'm not going to sit

816
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 3: here and say like he's back to being a must

817
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: players something like that. But I do think the arrow

818
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: is definitely pointing up and I'm curious how how high

819
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 3: he climbs on the middle meter.

820
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: Well before we get to that too, to bolster your point, Yeah,

821
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 1: that fumble was his last snap of the ball game.

822
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: So he hates him. Mike Rabel hates him.

823
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: Dude.

824
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 3: Vermondre could straight up hand the ball to the other

825
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: team and like it's not his fault. Man, Remondre can

826
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 3: step back, drop back like a quarterback and throw it

827
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: in the parking lot. He would not care. Like He's like,

828
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 3: you could do whatever you want, bro. He'd be like,

829
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 3: did you see how tight that spiral was?

830
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: Though at least that's not a turnover, it's just an

831
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: incomplete path.

832
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 3: I will say Stevenson did have almost the catch of

833
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: the game.

834
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 4: He was out of bounds. Yes, yeah, that was awesome.

835
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 4: So I like Stevenson. He's a good guy.

836
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of rookies that folks had kind of given

837
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: up on. Where's the middle meter? That's right, the middle

838
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: meter the the I will say this, it's still know

839
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: or does he at least get to be hen do No?

840
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 4: He No, he's he's hen No, Like I was thinking,

841
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 4: like maybe we could just push him up probably two spots, right,

842
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 4: this is the flex area where we could start considering

843
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 4: talking to him about flex. This was a good performance

844
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 4: by him on the ground. The problem is that fantasy

845
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 4: managers were not able to benefit from it because he

846
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 4: either A was on the waiver wire or B on

847
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 4: the bench. So it's like annoying, Like I want to

848
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 4: boost him all the way up because we know how

849
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 4: much of a good player he is.

850
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: But he is.

851
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 4: Toxic, man, Like I cannot have him. I mean, like, honestly,

852
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 4: he's not toxic.

853
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: He is toxic for my team. He's toxic.

854
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 4: The relationship is toxic, bro, because I love watching his film.

855
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 4: I like going back and seeing all the hype, all

856
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 4: the videos to mixtape videos on YouTube, Like, yo.

857
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 3: This dude is electric.

858
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 4: Like I named him one of the most electric fine

859
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 4: running backs in sports entertainment, but we have yet to

860
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 4: see that.

861
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: I definitely broke that.

862
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 3: But I just.

863
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's gonna But listen, I want to say this, right,

864
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 4: if Traveon Henderson goes out next week in surprises us,

865
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 4: all right, if he goes out there and has like

866
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 4: one of the same games he just had without the fumble. Like,

867
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 4: I don't even care about the fantasy points because they

868
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 4: only had five. I just want to see this type

869
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 4: of usage, this type of production, and for him to

870
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 4: have the opportunity to look the part. That's just my

871
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 4: biggest thing.

872
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: Here, all right, all right, So we'll see if he

873
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: gets more opportunity, whether or not he's.

874
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: Able to surpass I want to say, surpassed from Mondracks.

875
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: That's probably gonna happen, but.

876
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 1: At least close the gap between him and Ramandre.

877
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 2: But RJ.

878
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: Harvey another one that pretty much people had tapped out

879
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 1: on because he was really getting nothing. And then yesterday

880
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: lakwan eight touches, fifty one scrimmage yards and three touchdowns.

881
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: I saw the post from our friends over at rodal

882
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: World that basically said RJ. Harvey scores three times for

883
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: your one and six fantasy team. Because chances are, if

884
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: you've been rolling with RJ. Harvey consistently, you do not

885
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: have a good record. You are not in playoff contention.

886
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: And somehow if you caught this lightning in a bottle,

887
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: congrats to you, I mean, Lakwani. The touchdowns were great,

888
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: only eight touches, though, that feels like it's gonna be

889
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: hard to really still get behind toxic.

890
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 4: Another toxic relationship I can't wait to get away from because,

891
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 4: to be honest, I'm more on Harvey's side than a

892
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 4: Trevion Anderson because I started Harvey because I'm like, all right, look,

893
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 4: it's the Cowboys. Boy's going to get them in strike

894
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,959
Speaker 4: conditions a bunch of times, and we know how bad

895
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 4: the Cowboys defense is. He could bust one off, and

896
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 4: that's exactly what happened. But it's more so the usage.

897
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 4: Why does he only have eight touches? This should be

898
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 4: the game you should unleash Harvey. I wanted Harvey to

899
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 4: put up a forty burger because he probably could have

900
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 4: if he would have gotten more than eight touches. So

901
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 4: I do think that the dynamic of trying to trust

902
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 4: Sean Payton, trying to trust this backfield, it's still very

903
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 4: like murky, like you can't really pinpoint of like, hey,

904
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 4: I can start Harvey as a flex this week because no,

905
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 4: because Sean Payton knows that you're starting him this week.

906
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 4: He listens to the pod. Probably he's probably a friend

907
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 4: of the show that we do not have on. But

908
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 4: Sean Payon, if you were hearing this, RJ. Harvey is

909
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 4: good at foot, give him the ball.

910
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 3: Stop.

911
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: It's also hard though, when you got JK Dobbins running

912
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: for like seven and a half yards per carry too.

913
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 2: Why he did yesterday?

914
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 4: Why did he strip him of his touchdowns? Why didn't

915
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 4: JK get some opportunity to get some touchdowns? I mean

916
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 4: that that was an issue.

917
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 3: So it makes it where you almost don't want to

918
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 3: start either of them. I had a Broncos fan and

919
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 3: my mentions to yesterday and it's conspiraed like tinfoil hat,

920
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 3: but they were like, Sean Payton is trying to decrease

921
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 3: the market because JK Dobbins is on a one year

922
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 3: deal so that he could get him back more affordable

923
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: next season. And I was like, you know what, you

924
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 3: might be onto something he would play?

925
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: He would play the four D chess like that, Like

926
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: that does seem like a thing that he might do.

927
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 4: I'm seeing a lot of running back sliding, like Oli

928
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 4: Gordon slid a couple times in that Miami game, of

929
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 4: like avoiding context. So I think like guys are starting

930
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 4: to be more aware of their body and the value

931
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 4: of the running back like doorability gets you jobs.

932
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 2: Man, it does. It absolutely does for sure.

933
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: As we're considu on our rookie running back to Chad here,

934
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: Woody marks one hundred and eleven scrimmage yards. Got it

935
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: done both on the ground and through the air.

936
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: Is he one?

937
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: Is the officially Florio the RB one now in Houston?

938
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: And I guess spinning this even further forward, is he

939
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: the guy? Because the Texans haven't out on Joe Mixon's

940
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: contract after this season, they can cut him.

941
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: With fairly minimal cap hit. Is what he marks the

942
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: guy now there for the Texans.

943
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: I think long term he has the best chance of

944
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: being their guy because who knows what's going on with

945
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 3: Joe Mixon and Nick Chubb. This is maybe his last

946
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: year or something. But it's hard to say he is

947
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: the guy right now because Nick Chubb they split snaps

948
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 3: pretty much down the middle. But Nick Chubb had seventeen

949
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: carries to what he's eleven. Wood He had more routes

950
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 3: and targets and obviously is more explosive. But Nick Chubb's

951
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: involvement is something that is going to keep Woody Marx

952
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: as a flex range play and someone that until we

953
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: see him get more because we've been had before. Like

954
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 3: I know, La Kwan went on a whole rant about

955
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: how we were like following the tea leaves and stuff,

956
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 3: and he was one hundred percent right, and then it

957
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 3: looked like it was Nick Chubb again. Those last couple

958
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: of weeks were starting to look more and more like

959
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 3: it was Woody and then they split here. So it

960
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 3: makes it where I don't think you played Chubb unless

961
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: you're desperate, because there's not a lot of bursts there anymore.

962
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: But Marx has big playability. He's used in the passing

963
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: game more so. His floor and ceiling I think are higher,

964
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 3: but it's still Chubb's involvement still makes him only a

965
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 3: flex option until we see him really fully take over

966
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 3: this backfield, which I think there's a lot of potential here.

967
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: I think so too.

968
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: Of the update on Joe Mixon is as such. After

969
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: the game to beat oll Ryan's was asked if he

970
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: had an update about Mixon's return, and his response was,

971
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: I do not.

972
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: That's nice.

973
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: That after this, can.

974
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: We do a wellness check because I mean, yeah, we

975
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: need like some proof of life, just a you know,

976
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: a quick social media video something just just let us

977
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: know you're still there, Joe. But yeah, I don't think

978
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: the Texans are planning on having Joe Mixon. It seems

979
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: like they have their moving forward, and it just makes

980
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: me think that that might be it for mixing with

981
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: the Texans. I'd be surprised if they bring him back

982
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: for next year. Stranger things have happened, but that's sort

983
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: of what I'm looking at right now.

984
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: This is one of the stranger potential end of careers

985
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 3: we've ever seen.

986
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 2: Like, right, it's just it's wild. Just there's been no word,

987
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: no updates, no nothing.

988
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 4: I got a couple end of careers on my head

989
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 4: right now.

990
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you could.

991
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: You could rip your jersey off and then like you know,

992
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: hype the crowd out on.

993
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 3: Your way through the exactly end of career.

994
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:55,479
Speaker 2: You could.

995
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: You could Davis and just walk out of the locker

996
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: room at halftime in week one, just getting your car

997
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: and drive away. I mean, there are some weird ones,

998
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: but this one, this one is very high in the

999
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: intrigue list for sure.

1000
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 4: Dynasty leagues that I leave or want to leave, I

1001
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 4: send the Antonio Brown meme length.

1002
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: I'm out.

1003
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: I like you guys are not active. It's biting them out.

1004
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 2: I might have to steal that from you this offseason.

1005
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: We'll see. Anyway, take a.

1006
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: Quick break, come back. We got some guys to drop,

1007
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: some guys to add. It's waiver wire time next coming

1008
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: up on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. All right, as

1009
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: everybody's getting ready to make some waiver claims for Week nine,

1010
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: coming up, we got some guys to drop, some guys

1011
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: to add. I have learned my lesson. I'm gonna start

1012
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: with the drop guys because it's the beginning the show.

1013
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: On a more positive note, See, I can be taught.

1014
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: Uh So here in the drop zone, laquad, who is

1015
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 1: going back into the free agent pool.

1016
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 4: I need the fantasy streets to tap in, and I

1017
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 4: need chat. Come on, come closer. Listen, stop handing me

1018
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 4: my DMS about Jerry Judy. There is no question in

1019
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 4: any desire to say, hey, should I start such and

1020
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 4: such or Jerry Judy. My response to every single DM

1021
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 4: I've gotten when I've seen Jerry Judy is why is

1022
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 4: he still rostered? Seventy three percent of the league's he

1023
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 4: has still rostered. Drop this man. He is catching forty

1024
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 4: percent of his targets. Drop this man. This guy's not

1025
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 4: even the wide receiver one on his team. Drop this man,

1026
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 4: So please, folks, it's time let him go. There should

1027
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 4: be no reason why he's rostered in this many leasts

1028
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 4: because I don't see any arrow that's pointing up for

1029
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 4: him to be fantasy relevant. He has one game this

1030
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 4: season over ten Fantasy points. That was in Week one. Folks,

1031
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 4: we're heading towards week nine. You are obviously not going

1032
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 4: to the playoffs. You are obviously now even looking or

1033
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 4: even smelling the playoffs, or you even have the idea

1034
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 4: that you could win another game if you are still

1035
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 4: rostering Jerry Judy and asking if he should be started

1036
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 4: and ran.

1037
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: What's funny about that is, you know, I put together

1038
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: the rundown, I send it out.

1039
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 2: I left this part blanks. I just want to let

1040
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: you guys get in there.

1041
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: And get your first cracks at who who to put

1042
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: in there? And so I was like, okay, let me

1043
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: go Phil, and I was like looking, I was like, dude,

1044
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy, And I looked like.

1045
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 3: I was going to put Jerry Judy as well? Why

1046
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 3: he still a roster. The only the only saving grace

1047
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 3: I could think of is maybe he gets traded. That's

1048
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 3: the only thing I can I.

1049
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 4: Wants him, who wants him? He's cheap Patriots, He'll be

1050
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,479
Speaker 4: a Patriot, let's honest.

1051
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 3: Leave the Bills. That's who came to mind.

1052
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he had one short run late in twenty

1053
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: twenty two with the Broncos. He had the one run

1054
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: with Joe Flacco with the Browns when pretty much everybody

1055
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: else was injured and there really were no other options

1056
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: for Flacco to throw the ball to. Beyond that, there's

1057
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: been nothing in Jerry Judy's career to make you believe.

1058
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: Steve Smith was RIGHTM like six games last year was fun.

1059
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot about that.

1060
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, but I do love that. That's very funny

1061
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: that all three of us were like, Jerry Judy's got

1062
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: to go.

1063
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: He's like fifty six roster or something like that.

1064
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel that's just I don't know, it's just

1065
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm like, I'm really trying to come

1066
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: up with a reason why, and I just you know what,

1067
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: here's what, here's why. Because nobody is starting Jerry Judy, right,

1068
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: so he's just sitting on people's benches and you look

1069
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: every week like you just you just gloss over him.

1070
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: Right when you're making roster moves, you gloss over him

1071
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: because he'll give you, you know, seven points eight points.

1072
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: Like it's now he's putting up a whole bunch of

1073
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: ones and zeros, right, Like it's not that.

1074
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: He's an anchor guy.

1075
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: You just you just forget about him, and so he

1076
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: just sits there on the bench and you don't bother

1077
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: to make the move.

1078
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 3: And then you know, I rather roster to two people.

1079
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 3: You got right, You sell yourself that in a buyer injury.

1080
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 3: I could plug Jerry Judy in, but all he's doing

1081
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 3: is taking out a valuable roster. Just take it up

1082
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 3: straight bad.

1083
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: He's bad, man, Flora, who's your drop guy this week?

1084
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 3: This one makes me sad. It's key on Coleman. I

1085
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: think it's partially on Keon, partially on Joe Brady, partially

1086
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: on Josh Allen, but it's not leading to success. Like

1087
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 3: I posted his route tree from this past week on

1088
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 3: Twitter this morning, his two of his three catches were

1089
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 3: across the middle. And it's something I've said a lot

1090
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 3: this year, is like they have tethered him to kind

1091
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 3: of be like the outside X And I think they

1092
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 3: are simply putting too much on a young player's plate,

1093
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 3: and I think he would be like if Khalil Shakir

1094
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 3: wasn't there and they could use him like Shakir, I

1095
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 3: think Coleman would play really well, but Shakie's better in

1096
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 3: that role than he is, So Coleman is kind of

1097
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 3: being forced, in my opinion, to play a role that

1098
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 3: I don't believe he is ready to play just yet.

1099
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 3: There's a lot of contested catches there. He's had some success,

1100
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 3: but it's not a really way to live successfully in fantasy.

1101
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 3: They need to scheme some easy to for him, and

1102
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,479
Speaker 3: they just seem not to do that. Like the only

1103
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 3: time Keon heavily gets utilized is when they're trailing, and

1104
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 3: it doesn't make anything. Like I do a Bills podcast

1105
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 3: where I talk about this literally weekly, like give him

1106
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 3: opportunities early in the game, Like every opening drive should

1107
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 3: have a designed key on Coleman pass, but it does it.

1108
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 3: And that's one thing that Bills are really struggling with.

1109
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 3: I think it's partially on Josh, largely on Brady, but

1110
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 3: they're not able to scheme up guys open downfield. And

1111
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,959
Speaker 3: on top of all of that, it seems increasingly likely

1112
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 3: to me because the Bills came out and said that

1113
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 3: this game was going to be everything to determine if

1114
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 3: they need a wide receiver or not they need a

1115
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 3: wide receiver. It was very evident watching that game yesterday.

1116
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 3: So I do think they go out and make a trade,

1117
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 3: and I think that dings key on Coleman's value. I

1118
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 3: think we'll have some big games. It's just going to

1119
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 3: be very tough to predict when those are going to be.

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00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1121
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: Week one, he had one hundred and twelve yards and

1122
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: you look phenomenal, you me, cam Wolf. A lot of

1123
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: folks thought, Okay, this is it. This is where the

1124
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: breakouts come in. In the six games combined since then,

1125
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: it's one hundred and fifty five yards.

1126
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 2: So nice.

1127
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 3: Now one of them is also a game that they

1128
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 3: were losing. I believe like his second biggest game like that,

1129
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 3: that's they need to be down in the second half

1130
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 3: to be like, let's start getting Keyon involved.

1131
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 1: His second biggest game is forty five yards too, So yeah,

1132
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: that's that's not great. So yeah, it appears that it's

1133
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: not gonna happen, certainly not this year. You know, we'll

1134
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: see what the future is for Keon Coleman. But I

1135
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: do think at this point you can sort of move

1136
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: on from that one mine And I'll put the caveat here, right,

1137
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: this is probably for ten team leagues.

1138
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: Twelve is borderline fourteen.

1139
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: Team leagues you're holding on to Nick Chubb still, But

1140
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: if you were in a ten team for sure, I

1141
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: think you can move on from Nick Chubb. Twelve team leagues,

1142
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: your mileage may vary on that sort of thing. But

1143
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: as we talked about, Woody Marx is taking over as

1144
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: the RB one and Nick Chubb is sort of kind

1145
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: of giving you those anchor vibes right where it's not

1146
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 1: nothing that he's given you, but it's also not enough

1147
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 1: to make you excited about putting him in your lineup.

1148
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: And I think at this point you can go out

1149
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 1: and find someone that might be on the waiver wire

1150
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: that has a little bit more up So, I mean, look,

1151
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you were in a league where Tyrone Tracy

1152
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: is on the on the waiver wire, maybe he was dropped,

1153
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: right like, that's an opportunity to go and give you

1154
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: somebody with a little bit more upside there. There just

1155
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: have to be better options, and from a football standpoint,

1156
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: it's been great to see Nick Chubb try and resurrect

1157
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: his career, extend his career, but when you watch him

1158
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: run the ball, he's definitely not the same guy.

1159
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 2: The injuries have taken their toll on him.

1160
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: It's unfortunate, but this is sort of what it is,

1161
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: and the Texans seem to be turning now more to

1162
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: the younger guy. It would he marks. So, like I said,

1163
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,479
Speaker 1: if you're in a fourteen team league, you're still holding

1164
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: on a Nichubb because the waiver wire is probably bear,

1165
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: But you know twelve ten team leagues for sure you

1166
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: can move on from him at this point. So those

1167
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: guys we are dropping, let's try to turn that frown

1168
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: upside down and talk about the waiver wire guys who

1169
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: might help us out in Week nine and beyond Florido.

1170
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: Do the owners please Trevor.

1171
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 3: Mid Lawrence because of the matchup. They get the Raiders

1172
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 3: next week, so I think he's in play as a

1173
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 3: streaming option. Joe Flacco. The Bengals are just every week

1174
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 3: going to be in high scoring games because of their defense,

1175
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 3: and they get the Bears, who I'm not really afraid of.

1176
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 3: Tua coming off of that hot game he had the

1177
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 3: other day. They get the Ravens on Thursday night, so

1178
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 3: I think he's in play as a streaming option. Aaron

1179
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 3: Rodgers didn't live up to the expectations, but he's been

1180
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: safe floor and then J J McCarthy just if you're

1181
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: in a deeper league and wants some upside at quarterback,

1182
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 3: Tyrone Tracy and Woody Marx, if they are out there

1183
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 3: in your leagues, to me, are the biggest payoffs. I

1184
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 3: would go Marks first, but he's a little bit more rostered.

1185
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 3: Bam Knight. Look, it might only be one more week,

1186
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 3: but he is a really good matchup next week. Taj

1187
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 3: Spears is taking more work and just looking better than

1188
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 3: Tony Pollard. Tank Bigsby. I added this one because he

1189
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 3: ran really well after Saquon was hurt. The Eagles are

1190
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: on by next week, but just in case, if you

1191
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 3: have Saquon, I think it's really smart to add Bigsby

1192
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 3: this week. Dylan Sampson, even though I did just see

1193
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 3: that Judkins is day to day, and then Isaiah Davis.

1194
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 3: He's on by, but he had a lot of usage

1195
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 3: this past week. Samaj p Ryan had a lot of usage,

1196
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 3: and then some backups that are an injury away from

1197
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 3: being the lead back, Devin Singletary, Ali Gordon, Jayden, Blue receivers,

1198
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 3: Tees Johnson, Tamary DK, Kayshawan Boody, Darius Slayon, Troy Franklin,

1199
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 3: Alec Pierce, Christian Watson, all players that are pretty similar

1200
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 3: and the floor is not that safe, but they bring

1201
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 3: upside and then Noel Malik Washington, Jaden Higgins rounds that

1202
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 3: out and then tight ends shout out to LQ Gatsten

1203
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 3: just at Lakwan tell his dad not to start him again.

1204
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 3: Then a couple of New York guys and Theo Johnson

1205
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 3: and Mason Taylor getting more involvement, and Colson Lovelin because

1206
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 3: they get the Bengals next week. So if Cole Comett

1207
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 3: is out, and I know you were texting about this yesterday,

1208
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 3: Marcus love win very much. So as a streaming option,

1209
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 3: if no Comet this week.

1210
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to take a mild victory lap here if

1211
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: I could on Chim Ray DK because it's back to

1212
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: back weeks. It's basically since since the Titans started kind

1213
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: of shuffling things around. First Brian Callahan gave up the

1214
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: play calling duties. Then Brian Callahan gave up all of

1215
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: his duties. Since that has happened, Since that has happened,

1216
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 1: DK is starting to get some more work. Like before,

1217
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 1: he could barely get on the field for whatever reason

1218
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: they were I guess favoring Tyler Lockett over him. But

1219
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 1: since they've had the change in play caller, they're starting

1220
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: to use DK more and they're getting him, you know,

1221
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: kind of downfield. He's not necessarily a field stretcher, but

1222
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: they're using him more kind of as an intermediate pass catcher.

1223
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: Cam Ward is seeming to find a connection with him.

1224
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: So back to back weeks, I mean Week seven, he

1225
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: had seventy yards a touchdown, gave you sixteen points.

1226
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 2: Yesterday he had.

1227
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: What seven catches I think it was for a ninety

1228
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: three yards no touchdown. But again back to back sixteen

1229
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: point weeks. So I mean, you're talking about a guy

1230
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: who right now is basically free on the waiver wire.

1231
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: I mean, at this moment, he has rostered in fewer

1232
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: than one percent of NFL dot Com league.

1233
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 2: So he is out there.

1234
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: And it's starting to get some more opportunity on a

1235
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: team that you know is going to throw the football

1236
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 1: a lot. So a guy with real flex potential in

1237
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: a lot of leagues right now, you know, go go

1238
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: get him, because I think he's worthwhile.

1239
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 4: I'd even say he's the wide receiver one. I think

1240
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 4: Ridley should be on the move because he's doing all

1241
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 4: the routes and doing everything that we've seen from Cavimberley

1242
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 4: before injury. And then DK has just kind of come

1243
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 4: in and be like I'm him, let's do it, let's

1244
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:49,479
Speaker 4: ride well.

1245
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: And the other part of this is, I mean, you

1246
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 1: know we by we, I mean me, we're excited about

1247
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: lec Iomanner at the start of the year.

1248
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 2: Let's not forget DK was drafted about thirty spots ahead

1249
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: of him.

1250
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 3: That's forgotten.

1251
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's easily forgotten. They the Titans drafted DK.

1252
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 1: First and then they got Io Manner a little bit later.

1253
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: So I mean that's sort of worth paying attention to.

1254
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like DK pushed Lockett a worst team now, like

1255
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 4: he was like, all right, I'm out and this guy

1256
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 4: is obviously performing at a.

1257
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 3: High the way.

1258
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 2: Was going to sign Yeah, exactly sure, that was obvious.

1259
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely was obvious.

1260
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: So so yeah, DK a guy that's that's definitely worth

1261
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: looking at.

1262
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 2: On on waiver wires for sure, So there you go.

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Speaker 1: That'll do it for this this edition of the NFL

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Podcast. Stay happy, safe and healthy, do good

1265
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: and live well enjoying money to night football, everybody. We

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Speaker 1: will talk to you again on Wednesday, but I don't

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Speaker 1: know