1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: advice on many occasions. In the case you didn't notice, 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm not broke, you know he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do. 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: It's what he likes to share. Now it's time to 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations Here 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: we come. Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I'm your host, 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. It's time to stop reading other people's success story. 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm just telling everybody right now. Everybody wants to read. 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to give everybody else glory. What about your glory? 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: It's time you start writing your own success story. Now 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: you can be motivated by the success. Don't get me wrong. 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: Good books are good books. They could give you hints 16 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 1: and give you pathways, but it's their story. Remember that, 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: and they can offer you that direction. But you need 18 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: a direction for your own stiff to set your own goals, 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: to make your own lovel, committed effort and that's what 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: I do on money Making Conversation. I bring you interviews. 21 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: Other words, I can't mentor everybody, but what I can 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: do is provide you with information from celebrities, CEO, entrepreneurs 23 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: and what I like to call industry decision makers. My 24 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: next is an industry decision maker. He's an entrepreneur and 25 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: his celebrity he is a celebrity in his industry. Luen 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: Joe sharla Uh He was born and raised in West Africa. 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: Growing up, he shared an eight by ten room with 28 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: his mother and seven siblings. Now is the founder of 29 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 1: CEO or ala Fia. Proceed Proceeds from the Alapia beauty 30 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: and grooming products are returned to communities in West Africa 31 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: defined community empowerment and gender equality initiatives such as maternal healthcare, education, 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: reforestation and regenderative regenerative agriculture. We were discussing overcoming the arts, 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: something I'm vary from me with in America, so it 34 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: happens everywhere. Stereotyping in business something that we deal with 35 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: in America as well. And his female centric business model. 36 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: Please working to mo the main conversations well win Joe Sharlotte, 37 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: thank you. Let's let's get the name right there. I did. 38 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: I come close Charlotte and I got shoot down both sixties. 39 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: So you got passing grades. Thank you, my brother. I 40 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: never got Sharlotte, right, I know I got that. I 41 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: think I want to if you've been practiced up a 42 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: little while, absolutely so, so tell me man. You know, 43 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: you know, we always deal with stereotypes, you know, you know, 44 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: since I've been uh in this business, you know, because 45 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: I want to start to the truth, to talk to 46 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: the journey, because you've had the battle stereotypes. You know. 47 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: You know a lot of people say negative things about 48 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: people from Africa, Uh, scam artists. Uh, you know, shouldn't 49 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: trust them. I always got some up their sleeve. And then, 50 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: but you want to be a businessman, and so you're 51 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: trying to convince the same people who have these stereotypes. 52 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about white people. I'm talking 53 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: about people in my color had these same stereotype. How 54 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: did you start breaking down those walls before people unders 55 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: do it? Your story? You know? The thank you the 56 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: walls is you have to have understanding that walls takes 57 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: time to break. However, you cannot let anybody uh guard 58 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: your wall and you have to take those down immediately. 59 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: I think for me it was being very clear on 60 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: what has been to offer. And what I mean is 61 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: that when I when we first started, when I approached retailers, 62 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: I was coming from a place of these what you need. 63 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: It's not about what Africa needs. These are what America needs. 64 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: And that's a very different approach because for for for 65 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: a long time, with view as beggars and needing as 66 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: opposed to be viewed as those that can contribute to 67 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: over all humanity around the world from civilizations uh and 68 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: into today. So that that fundamental that's important because it's psychological. 69 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: When you're psychological, understand what you're offering you to the 70 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: world and what you can offer the America, I think 71 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: people pay attention. UH. And also when you're very clear 72 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: what you can engage your own community with, right, because 73 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: you're facing a community in America, but how do you 74 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: engege your own community? One of those two things are 75 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: very clear, I think it becomes a little bit easier 76 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: to break those walls. But it's interesting when you look 77 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: at my life, you know, I've been a I've been 78 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: a Negro I've been recognized as a black person and 79 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: then an African America and so so that's the name 80 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: journey that I've been involved in. The African American ties 81 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: me back to where I've come from, which I feel 82 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: blessed to be able to have a place that I 83 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: came from. Because when you come over ownership and you're 84 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: in you're based on slavery, you gotta have a real route, 85 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: because slavery is not a route, it's not a base. 86 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: And and I have to say this, what impact do 87 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: you feel that having at that base because you have 88 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: a home. You know, you have a recognizable home. You know, 89 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: the the basis is uh fundamental, Uh And because essentially 90 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: if you look at what I'm doing is really sharing 91 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: that base with the world. Because I have a base, 92 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm able to say culturally, this is what we have 93 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: to offer. And culturally these the knowledge that we have 94 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: and by sharing that with you, you can be healthier. 95 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: So I think it is a multi magnitude level when 96 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: you do have a base, and and that's something I'm 97 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: quite grateful for to have that base. Beauty and grooming 98 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: you can't go wrong with that. You know, everybody wants 99 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: to look good, especially in the African American community. UM, 100 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: I have six sisters, so I know a little bit 101 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: of thing about watching women look good and groom themselves 102 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: on the regular basis. I used to watch my mom 103 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: in the kitchen pull out that hot iron and I 104 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: don't know if it was I don't know if it 105 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: was a pain, uh walk of pain for my sisters, 106 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: but that's what they experienced. It put that guye in 107 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: the hair and burn half the hair out, and you know, 108 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: and so but there was the price that black women 109 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: paid to look good. And then you come along with 110 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: products that i'd like to say female friendly from a 111 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: stand up of how you care for one another? What 112 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: led you down that path of beauty and grooming? It 113 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: wasn't a matter of of a choice. And you know, 114 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: this is really what it's important to understand about life. Yet, 115 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: there is a vehicle for equality, is a vehicle for justice. 116 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: And so when you are set up your life to 117 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: fight for equology, you have to use the tools that 118 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 1: you have and that can give you the maximum return 119 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: in these case. For for me is understanding that we 120 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: have shared butter and we know how to make share 121 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: about that and share butter is used the personal care 122 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: and so it was it was it was a logical 123 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: path to take. Now I lave for you what is 124 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: shape Butter. I'm gonna ask you that I see it 125 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: a lot and I aver there in my house. What 126 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: where did they come from? And who? You know? What 127 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: magic rock? Did it? Did somebody discovered? Because Shape Butter 128 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: is taking over the world. Man, come on, y'all talk 129 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: to me, brother, Yes, yes, yes, well you know the 130 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: uh here's the thing, the the the ship butter. As 131 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: as we know, we need to go back to share trees, right, 132 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: those indigenous trees that can only be found in the 133 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: savanna of West Africa and as the time can remember, 134 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: for tens of thousands of years, that's why the people 135 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: of West Africa used either for cooking, for the hair, 136 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: for the body, you name it. So these is really 137 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: entertwined for with our will of presenting beauty and culture. 138 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: But you know did she but that you do see 139 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: around the world today, As we know, African resources don't 140 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: benefit Africa or African descent. So yes, share but it 141 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: is everywhere in the world. But what we're trying to 142 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: do is to engage with the community. Is the way 143 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: that it provides in direct economic benefits and obviously, as 144 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned, as we started to contribute back to the community. 145 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: But what is the share but itself? In this case, 146 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: I want to talk about unrefined ship, but because the 147 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: majority of the share buttters that you see the marketplace 148 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: go to a refined process that does not have all 149 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,599 Speaker 1: the healing property that should so sare. But it is 150 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: is a fact essentially uh from Asia Tree, and it 151 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: really is a very unique type of fact because see, 152 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: when you have you exposed to harsh environment or direct sunlight, 153 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: you need to be able to protect the layers of 154 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: your skin. And share but is known throughout history to 155 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: be one of those protectors. Now, the reason I bring 156 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: that up because you know, when you see something that 157 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: you know start to dominate the store, start to dominate 158 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: the beauty line to talk of conversation, just like black Soap, 159 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: it's a dominant force. And grooming. Now, how did these 160 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: two become such a major player or a game changing 161 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: I like, let's use the world game changer beauty and 162 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: grooming not only for women but also for me because 163 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: I used the black soap. Yes, you know I I 164 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: think it really goes back to the bigger change that's 165 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: happened around around us in the world. Uh. And here 166 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: we're talking about America, we're talking about health. But if 167 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:45,599 Speaker 1: if you lookal the revolution of organic movement uh and 168 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: people wanting healthy product, I really think it's correlate any 169 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: length to these and when you see there are vermin 170 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: ingredients in the world like you share, but the right 171 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: to have all the bears healing properties and just in 172 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: the one thing that could do all these different things 173 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: that's come from ultra natural source and the entries are wild. 174 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: You can't be more natural than that. You don't have 175 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: to ferilize, you you know how to bother them, you 176 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: don't have to put the chemicals on them. So I 177 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: think it's really correlated to the fact that the people 178 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: around the world today want to be have healthier options 179 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: and and then it happened that they share. But is 180 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: of a of a natural source is giving that attention. 181 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: But I do think though uh wild we see a 182 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: loss of ship. But the and and and is in 183 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: the dominant places. We really should be having the conversation 184 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: how these fundamental African is ingredient is empowering the people 185 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: of Africa African descent. Now with that being said, because 186 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: part of your I guess a narrative or initiatives of 187 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: your company mandate is giving back. It's about the reforestation, 188 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: talking about maternal health care, which we all know even 189 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: in the worka that's a major need. So I want 190 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: to go to each one of them separately so we 191 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: can discuss it and have an extended conversation. I want 192 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: to blow up because let's talk about first, which I 193 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: think is important, is maternal healthcare because a lot of 194 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: people take for granted, you know, because they see a 195 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: child being born, but a lot of children aren't brought, 196 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: don't go for a term, and and the situation lead 197 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: to a lot of sadness and also conlude to suicides. 198 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: Depend on that. So let's talk about the maternal healthcare 199 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: and your company's initiative, especially when it comes to ginger equality, 200 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: gender inequality. Thank you. I mean life in general requires 201 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: us to be devoked today for the well being of 202 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: being a child to this world. Uh. And you know 203 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: when we started the conversation and we talked about the 204 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: way which I was brought up with seven seven siblings 205 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: in the very small space, when you grew up in 206 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: bock out poverty where you witness is women dying given birth. 207 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: I lost systems myself, but when they're trying to bring 208 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: life to this earth, So it's something that's really personal 209 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: to me and become an adult, then having a laugh here, 210 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: it just makes sense for my heart that laugh here 211 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: need to be devoted in contributing to reducing the unnecessary 212 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: death of a woman by trying to bring life. But 213 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: there's something even more, even more fundamental or equally important 214 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: that has to do with economics. Right we when we 215 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: talk about gender quality, I'm really talking about economic quality 216 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: for our women. And what that means to me is 217 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: that if we do not invest in maternal health and 218 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: we lose the motters, what happened is that the child, 219 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: the older child is likely to drop our school, the 220 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: young girls likely to drop our school. So for and 221 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: and when we continue to have just a high drop 222 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,599 Speaker 1: out rate, the cycle of poverty never breaks, right, and 223 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: the poverty to continue. The more the poverty to continue, 224 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: the more inequality or agender the call to continue. So 225 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: for me, in order to break that cycle, we need 226 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: the modernesty to be alive so that the children can 227 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: continue to go to school. So to answer that question, 228 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: one is just an immortal thing to do. One sixteen 229 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: woman today in South Tina Africa would die trying to 230 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: bring life to the earth. And the second party is 231 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: a part of the long term um UH process of 232 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: breaking the cycle of poverty by investments so that our 233 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: women can be then and our children to continue go 234 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: into school. Yeah, Mr Charlotte, the reason I wanted to 235 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: transitions start with that because we use the word consistent 236 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: in your first conversation with maternal health there the word poverty, 237 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: and poverty is always tired. I think a lot to 238 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: education and because if you don't give a shot, you 239 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: don't have a clear understanding of the opportunity. That's what 240 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: education gives you. I would tell people, you know, education 241 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: is why you and not having this conversation. You know, 242 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: I come from that city. I come from my father's 243 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: truck driver, my third grade education, my mom graduated, my 244 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: high school, six sisters, two brothers, you know, so all 245 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: those elements without education means I may not be here. 246 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: So education gave me a foothold to be able to 247 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: have a conversation through opportunity. Opportunity to give you a 248 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: chance to say goals. You said goals, then you become 249 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: a person who can commit it to an effort, a 250 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: plan of action. We're trying to get that. So when 251 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: I saw education, I really was excited because I went, 252 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: he gets it. He gets it because you can give 253 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: people money to for food, you get people money for housing. 254 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: But if you don't really understand that education can if 255 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: you give it to education, they can buy their food, 256 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: they can supply their own housing. And so so that's 257 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: is a dignity right that nobody wants to hand out right. Uh. 258 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: But but we can give a hand to each other 259 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: and an education, Uh. Portunity is a form of giving 260 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: hands so that a person can stands and not. Dignity 261 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: is very important as a human being. How we view 262 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: ourselves and I will conduct ourselves and I would go 263 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: through life. I'm gonna ask you this, sir. You know stereotype. 264 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: Could we started out in the beginning, I just be honest. 265 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: I I spent probably a month in Durban, South Africa, 266 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: and Steve Harvey I went over to the broadcast and 267 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: I swear to you, I didn't have a clue on 268 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: where we could possibly broadcast because in my mind, based 269 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: on information has been given me, there was not a 270 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: modern city in Africa period, stereotypes and when I and 271 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: and when I landed, I was ashamed of my lack 272 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: of education. I landed in South Africa, saw these beautiful 273 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: black people. Then we drove down to Durban. It was 274 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: it looked like I was landing in Atlanta, Georgia. It 275 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: was like I was living in Atlanta, Georgia. But that's no. 276 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: Doesn't that anger you? The stereotypes, the blind information that 277 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: is being distributed and I have to say propaganda, but 278 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: clearly you know it not. It's more than anger because 279 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: what it does is the A doesn't allowed for the 280 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: world to to truly appreciate um who we are. And 281 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: I think is by design is A is a process 282 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: that's not new to you. Is divide and conquer. And 283 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: you can divide. When you can divide the mind and 284 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: pollute the mind, then you can conquer the people. Uh. 285 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: And the conquering people today is not like you have 286 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: to self with them change. It's just about their mind. 287 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: And I think what that also does it continue to 288 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: leave to these way of taking resources cheaply from Africa 289 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: because well they don't really need it. We need it, 290 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: so that I think there's there's a reason behind it. 291 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: It's not by accident. 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That's O T T 330 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: E R dot ai And that's why you know because 331 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: I want to always like to have honest conversations with 332 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: my interviews that I have because it's an education for me. 333 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: And I remember when I went down to Durban, you know, 334 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: I was down there, I found myself looking for property 335 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: to buy. I was so in love, so enamored and 336 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: so and my wife said, calm down, calm down. You 337 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: don't know when you're gonna go back, you know, because 338 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, you know, it's like opening up 339 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 1: a gift, you know, and you don't know what's inside 340 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: the gift. When you pull it out, you go you 341 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: want to keep looking aside for more of that gift. 342 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: And that was my experience. And so when I hear 343 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: things like reforestation, that means that you're concerned about you know, 344 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: how your country looks and how if you don't take 345 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: care of it, guess what it becomes a desert. And 346 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: so talk about this, the autriculture, the importance of that, 347 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: and because all these ties back to the bigger plan 348 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: of what you're doing with your brand, and I want 349 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: to support it. I want to promote it because of 350 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: the fact that it thinks about changing through education, changing 351 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: and removing a poverty culture from people. And also letting 352 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: them understand they gotta take care of where they live. 353 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: They gotta take care of your house. It's like, if 354 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: you know what's saying, it's your child. If you go 355 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: in your house and you need the doors wide open, 356 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna come in and steal, it's just gonna come. 357 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: They're gonna steal. And so same thing in your country. 358 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: You don't take care of your country, You don't take 359 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: care of your farge. You don't replenish your the ground 360 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: that you want food to come out of, guess what 361 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: it's going to die. And that's that has to be 362 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: a passion for you. That's really emotionally leads you every 363 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: day down your path of what you want to do 364 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: with your brand that you know the because in order 365 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: to achieve these uh, these missions uh and this really 366 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: is a mission of self, rest act and respect to people, 367 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: you have to have a comprehensive approach. You can't simply 368 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: just build maternal care or you can't simply build schools 369 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: and now think about your environment. But I think it 370 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: really goes down to you again about poverty right we today. 371 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: When when I first came to the state, people will 372 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: say you come from a dongle and and the fact 373 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: that is that we used to have a lot of trees. 374 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: We used to have a lots of dongles, but lots 375 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: of it have been mowed down. And what we do 376 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: know now is that when you cut it, you cut 377 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: all those trees down, then the top soil gets wash 378 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: away with what's called erosion. And when you have so 379 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: much erosion, you lose all the nutrients from the top soil. 380 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: And when you lose all the nutrient, the topsail gets 381 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: to wash away. Increase in ability, inability to grow food, 382 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: and when you don't have food will happened at least 383 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: to farming. And when you're hungry, you can't learn, you 384 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: can't go to school, you can't So the the the 385 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: environment and planting trees, while i've yet, is fundamental way 386 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: that we feel that in any direct way that leads 387 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: to reduction of povergy. You know, it's really uh first, well, 388 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: hopefully enjoying the conversation here because it's a it's about 389 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 1: my view and my unique experience of going to a country, 390 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: being called an African American and being recognized as a 391 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: leader in this country. But also we after acknowledge a 392 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: heart level of ignorance. And so you know when you 393 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: when you're trying to get financing for your business, did 394 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: you run into stereotypes there? Well, I think that's a 395 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:54,239 Speaker 1: common place, right, which is unfortunate because people like us 396 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: and yourself with you, when you grew up in the 397 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: way we'll grow up. You're not I gonna go to 398 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: daddy your mom and say can you give me MONTHY 399 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: started like you, But by the minute that you can 400 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: put your own belt on, you have you're taking care 401 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,239 Speaker 1: of the dad in the moment, right, so you are 402 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: on your own. And when you're on your own and 403 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: you can't give money from family, which many people do 404 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: when they start business. Uh And on top of it 405 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: being a black man, uh so is the mountains high? 406 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: But again you can climbate. You have to try, You 407 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: have to you have to give it all you got. 408 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: And we were turned down many times, to the point 409 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: where I scanned in the bank and it said I 410 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: won't go home. I was surprised. I wasn't arrested that this. 411 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: I need to get this loan, and I believe this 412 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: loan will help American and it will help my community, 413 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: so I can start the social enterprise. If you don't 414 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: you don't give up. But you know, what I also 415 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: learned very quickly is that people in America is not 416 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: going to give you what you need. And we we 417 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: did end up getting a small loan after so much 418 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: perfect perseverance. But what I did to this day is 419 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: to walk around the clock. Let let my sweat become 420 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: the money and generate the funds as well as we grow. 421 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: But we all also know that without uh AS capital 422 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: is difficult, difficult to grow. I think way that you 423 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: need to grow absolutely. You know, it's really interesting because 424 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: I would tell people there are twenty four hours in 425 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: the day, learn to take advantage of each hour. And 426 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: that seems to be the principle that you run your career. 427 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: Because it was a question that was sitting over to 428 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: me and says, what advice would you give someone wanting 429 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: to pursue a career similar to yours? And I saw 430 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: that coverage, I said, there's nothing similar to yours. You know, 431 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: you know your philanthropers, your businessman, you're you care, you are, 432 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: you remember, you, you feel, you feel pain, you know? 433 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: And I say that I feel like I'd say that 434 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: because it's really interesting. People look at successful people. I 435 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: can see you a successful person and and I'm quite 436 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: blass grateful, you know, And and that and that blessing process, 437 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: it lends itself to go, how can I do more? 438 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: And you know you can't do so much, you know 439 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And and also, when you're fighting stereotypes, 440 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: you're fighting ignorance. You're fighting impoverished conditions that you can't change, 441 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: generational ignorance, generational poverty. You know, So when I hear 442 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: that question, your career isn't similar because you're unique and 443 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: unique because the fact that you want to create change 444 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: because a lot of people just walk away. They go, hey, man, 445 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: that's why I used to live you know what I'm saying. 446 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: You're not saying that. You're saying, Look, I used to 447 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: live there, and I still go back there, and I 448 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: want to build up. I want to grab as many 449 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: as I can. You know that that old that old 450 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: you said, that painting where somebody leans down with their 451 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: hands to pull another brother up. You know that ship? What? What? What? 452 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: What created that? Driving you like that? Sir? Mr Charlotte? 453 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: You know, I uh, I was thinking really come from 454 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: my mother. She she was an indented servant in neighboring country. 455 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: And and she she lost both her parents when she 456 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: was still a baby. So she she she worked in 457 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: exchange for food their whole life and end up having 458 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: us and having it of us and never want to 459 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: be alone again. But one thing that she she made 460 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: sure that we know once is to is to work hard, 461 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: but bove all is to be humble and serving. She 462 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 1: felt that was how she survived and that's how we need. 463 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: Those are the manage that we need to engage with. 464 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: Uh And and shows she also help us or understand 465 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: that justice even in our small community of village. So 466 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: I think for me, I very early on, I have 467 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: come to somehow believe on on duties and more responsibility 468 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: as an individual. Uh And and when you have a 469 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: more responsibility, doctorates dry because as he got to do 470 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: something with that responsibility, and especially when it's moral. Wow, 471 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, I know that. You know, we're just human, sir, 472 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: that's all. We're human. And sometimes being human is also 473 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: can be a negative because no, we have no guardlike powers. 474 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: You know, we can't snap our fingers, we can't wish 475 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: we're out genies. But in the process of building your 476 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: company and building your brand, you can't make a difference. 477 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: And if you say, Rashwan one thing, and because you 478 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: because we list a lot of things. We talked about 479 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: maternal health, we talked about education, reforestation, we talked about 480 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: gender equality initiatives. What pops out at the top of 481 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: that list. If you said, Rashaan, I really want to 482 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: focus on this what what? What? What popped out? Is 483 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: it education? The maternal health care? Well, you know, I will, 484 00:27:52,880 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: I will actually uh think that is economics. And and 485 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: what I mean by economics because is having to me 486 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at from home right when I look 487 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: from home, seven of our communities in West Africa today 488 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: are the way I grew up in the real community. 489 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: And we have two things. We have knowledge and and 490 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: we have resources. So economic to me is that how 491 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: do we put those two together? And and and in 492 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: the moral process and share of the world. Because that 493 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: process does many things. One it gives us fund uh 494 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: for for health care for ourselves. It gives self dignity 495 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: because now we're able to trade our resources, we don't 496 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: just give them away. And above all allow us to 497 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: invest in our future, which we don't have right now. 498 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: So I think I think everything else in my view 499 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: falls under economics, but it needs to be economics that 500 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: have a level of morality. Does incorporate economics yourself in 501 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: the terms of capitalism that we see that nothing's going 502 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: from making money but making money recklessly and and and 503 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: destroying the people wealth, life, cultures and the bill balled 504 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: environment is not the way to go in the future 505 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: when we have eight billion people on the earth. Uh, 506 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: to me, you have to imply a sense of morality 507 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: and and still be be a capitalist process. Well, you 508 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: know the when we we we we as we go 509 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: through this conversation talking about your brain, talk about you. 510 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: I know this is not First of all, we just 511 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: do this. This is not the only time we're going 512 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: to talk. Secondly, my main concern here was that I 513 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: just want to have a conversation with you, sir. How 514 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,239 Speaker 1: about you? Than I feel the same way. As soon 515 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: as we're turned the commons off, I'm gonna I come 516 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: to London and we know, becaun't know why you drink, 517 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: but I can bring some stuff from home. We know, 518 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: thank you. You know. The thing about it is that 519 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: you know this is a man's man's conversation and it's 520 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: since you know, I know where I came from. And 521 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: and I'm not bragging. I'm not bragging. You know, you 522 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: don't brag from come from impoverished situation. You don't brag 523 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: from coming from situation that that didn't lend themselves to 524 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: favorable out comes. You brag when you come from Beverly Hills. 525 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: You brag when you graduate from Yale. You brag when 526 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: you you're born with use spoon in your mouf. You 527 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: brag when you when you to Queen Elizabeth, it's yours, 528 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: your grand mama. You know what I'm saying. That's what 529 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: you brag about. But you can brag when you're willing 530 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: to make a difference where you came from. And that's 531 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: all that's my mandate, that's all I live for. And 532 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: so so when I was leaving your bio and I 533 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you, my conversation was that your 534 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: business got this interview, but the interview I wanted to 535 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: talk about the man, and thank you. You cannot change 536 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: because you're an inspiration because you're breaking down barriers every day. 537 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: And as you break down these barriers, it's important that 538 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: people understand that that you don't have to do that 539 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: you can get in your call and not and and 540 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: and be happy. Listen, you can pay the taxes and 541 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: not go back, and when you go back, you can floss. 542 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: And it ended all. But you don't want to floss. 543 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: You want to, you want to, But but we have to. 544 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: You know, you saw the conversation talk about the barrier 545 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: in the wall. If we and as you do, and 546 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 1: we don't engage, what kind of if people before us 547 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: didn't didn't engage, what is gonna happen to our children's 548 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: children because we know that we don't want them to live? Uh, 549 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: and witness, Well, we witness, so I think again, Uh, 550 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: there's no there's nowhere around but to engage and to 551 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: share and to share with with respect. And I know 552 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: that It's the interesting thing about stream television, you know, 553 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: streaming television. When I talked streaming, I talk about the Netflix, 554 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: the Amazons and the Apples. They have exposed us to 555 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: the African culture from a television, from a filmmaking standpoint, 556 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: and really allowed us to become more and more comfortable 557 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: that they are just like us. And that's a blessing. 558 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: And that's a blessing. And a lot of people need 559 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: to understand what I'm saying here. Because when you don't know, 560 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: and so it's sometimes the media can control what you know, 561 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: you know, and so that's why you walk around the 562 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: United States, they have they have Confederate statues up like 563 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: they're good because they don't tell you the story that 564 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: they should never have been up. Okay, especially our people 565 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: who it was willing to enslave and maintain that slave 566 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: reached status. And so so when I look at the 567 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: next the Netflix is and the Amazons and all these treatment, 568 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm so happy because I myself personally, I see it 569 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: breaking down walls of communication, entertainment and do you see that? 570 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: Do you feel that it's a blessing? You know? I 571 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: do you know? Because there's one thing that that I 572 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: always talking about is how do we bring our commuties 573 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: uh together right uh? And and and to me, what 574 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: the Lafeel does and the partuct Lafeel over uh is 575 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: one way to do that. But what we see today 576 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: that we can you know, and I even speak for myself, 577 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: I can be in the West Africa and built to 578 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: do a video conference with somebody in America is immediate. 579 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: What you don't have to rely on the on the 580 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: on the newspaper to print the story. That's your story. 581 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: You could have your own story. Um so, so I 582 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: I think that that process what's happened right now is 583 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: a good thing. But we must also be very mindful 584 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: um that the way in which the way sharing that 585 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: the people who are sharing, at least from in Africa 586 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: are representing the people. So that's something that we have 587 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: to be we have to pay attention to. But as 588 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: it is right now, I do agree, it's a it's 589 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: a way for us to begin to build the first layer. 590 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: Out said, there are many layers. At least build the 591 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,479 Speaker 1: first layer. First layers. This came to talk about your product. 592 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: Let's sorry, tell us how we can we can reach it, 593 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: how we can buy it, how we can I want 594 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: to tell you something I don't see Alaia. It's just 595 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: a product, right these are two uh, and I'll be 596 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: more than grateful to talk to you about even bigger 597 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: matters around the world all day long. But where you 598 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: can't find Alaia product, since you ask, We're quite fortunate. 599 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: We have a product available in wal marts. H we'll 600 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: have a product a builable in the target as well 601 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: as the hopefully's market around the country and pretty much 602 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: any health food stores that that's where we are as 603 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: in healthful stores do care our product as well, and 604 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: of course within our website. Well, you know, I had to. 605 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: I had to bring it up because I didn't want 606 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: to pr people be man, he didn't talk about the product. 607 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: Who's that United Nation conversation? I don't know. We don't 608 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: have come on money make conversations again if you're having 609 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: a good time. But you know all people, you don't book. 610 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: You didn't even ask for the website. Friends, what would 611 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: the interview all about? We're never doing that show yet, 612 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: and come down. I love the guy. I love the 613 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: guy my maid really for everybody? You do you think 614 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: of everybody? Well, I take care of people who are 615 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: making a difference in this world. And I think I'm 616 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: not saying I'm doing that, sir. I know that this 617 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: this is just a small show that represents my values 618 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: and the people I've trying to bring on this show 619 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: also represent the values of change, of opportunity, of success. 620 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: And you're a beautiful person, man, and you can't change you. 621 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: I'll be mad if you do. You know, I'll be 622 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: the first person to fly to Washington, find you and 623 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: see what happened. 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