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Speaker 1: One Bills Drive. I am John Murphy here in our

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Speaker 1: one Buffalo Studio. Steeve Tasker remains on vacation. He'll be

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Speaker 1: because we do have springtime football. It's the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: rookie weekend mini camp. They are on the field as

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Speaker 1: right now to Chris Brown out there on the field

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Speaker 1: as the Bills get their practice going. Good afternoon. Chris

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Speaker 1: fields like football weather out there, doesn't it. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: guy who had played the position or actually coached the

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Speaker 1: has coached a couple of years at quarterback and then

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Speaker 1: up pretty widely. Now for Tyree Jackson, who still has

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Speaker 1: A guy who needs a considerable development. But an interesting move.

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Speaker 1: You know, we kind of ignored quarterback as a as

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Speaker 1: a Bill's position to pay any attention, thinking it was

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Speaker 1: all set. But unbeknownst to us and most everybody, Derek

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Speaker 1: Anderson decided that he had enough. So there you go.

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Speaker 1: That's what we're looking at today. That's the news of

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Speaker 1: the day, Derek Anderson's retirement last night, and the eight

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Speaker 1: rookie draft picks signed, eight other undrafted free agents announced

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Speaker 1: and signed to contracts, and of course the rookie miniicamp

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Speaker 1: which is now underway. We got an interesting show Thurman

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Speaker 1: Thomas coming by in a couple of minutes, and then

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Speaker 1: after practice we're going to talk with Jakwon Johnson, build

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Speaker 1: six round draft pick, the safety out of Miami, and

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Speaker 1: I think we have an interesting question too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: doing some of that as well, and we want to

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Speaker 1: know from you as we set up a show topic.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of the AFC East. You know,

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Speaker 1: you play him twice, you follow what they do. We

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Speaker 1: want to know the question on Twitter today which AFC

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Speaker 1: East team made the best roster editions this offseason? Bills, Jets, Dolphins, Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Simple question. You can vote on it on Twitter, or

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy one votes in so far. It is

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Speaker 1: a landslide for the Bills, which okay, but you gotta

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Speaker 1: think a little bit about what's going on around the division.

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Speaker 1: Eighty six percent of our respondents say the Bills made

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Speaker 1: the best roster editions this offseason. Nine percent say the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Three percent say the Patriots, two percent say the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: I get Dolphins and Patriots not getting much love in

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Speaker 1: this Twitter poll. The Jets have made some moves, lady

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, The Jets have made some moves. They have

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Speaker 1: a new coach. I get that. But the Jets did

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Speaker 1: not stand pat with just a four win season last year,

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Speaker 1: and they kind of approached it a little bit like

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Let's surround our going into a second

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Speaker 1: year quarterback Sam Donald with as much talent as we

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Speaker 1: can get. On the offensive side of the ball. They

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Speaker 1: got labe On Bell. Labe On Bell, who sat out

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Speaker 1: all of last year, is now the New York Jets

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Speaker 1: now good questions about whether he might struggle behind that

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Speaker 1: Jets offensive line. The offensive line is not that good.

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Speaker 1: They did trade for a Pro Bowl guard, callici Assemile,

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Speaker 1: but other than that, they have questions on the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: But levi On Bell should be a difference maker of

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Speaker 1: sorts for the Jets. Right. I would think they'd get

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Speaker 1: more than nine percent people saying they made the best

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Speaker 1: roster editions on defense. A couple of key pickups Quinn

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Speaker 1: and Williams third overall pick. Some people think he was

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Speaker 1: the best player available in the draft. He is now

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Speaker 1: with the New York Jets and I'm sure slated to

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Speaker 1: start up front right away. C J. Mosley pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: caliber linebacker in the inside for them. And you know,

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Speaker 1: by the way, it's not personnel player personnel, but Greg

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Speaker 1: Williams should make a difference. I would think having a

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Speaker 1: more aggressive Jets defense. I wouldn't dismiss the Jets as

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Speaker 1: far as I'm not saying they're winning the division, but

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Speaker 1: as far as a team that made significant improvement in

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Speaker 1: the offseason, the Bills and Jets would be my first

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Speaker 1: two picks and that question. Let us know what you think.

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Speaker 1: Vote on Twitter at one Bills Live. Which AFC East

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Speaker 1: team made the best roster editions this offseason or give

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Speaker 1: us a call. Eight oh three five fifty toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty Dolphins. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know they got the quarterbacks, right Josh Allen or

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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen and Ryan Fitzpatrick added to the Dolphins. Not

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Speaker 1: much else done for them offensively this year. Defensively, Christian

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Speaker 1: Wilkins a pretty good draft pick, the defensive lineman from Miami.

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Speaker 1: They signed Eric Rowe, who played with the Eagles and

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Speaker 1: the Patriots won a couple of Super Bowls with the Patriots. Patriots,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they gotta think, what do we need to

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Speaker 1: fix here. They added wide receiver and Nikil Harry, who

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Speaker 1: was very good. I'm reading comparisons of him with Michael

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Speaker 1: Irvin over the last few days. They added a couple

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Speaker 1: of tight ends with Grenkowski gone, Benjamin Watson, Austin's Ferry

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Speaker 1: and Jenkins who've played. They traded for Michael Bennett defensive

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Speaker 1: end who's gone to Pro Bowls, three time Pro Bowl performer,

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Speaker 1: thirty three years old. So yeah, I can see how

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Speaker 1: you might dismiss the Dolphins and the Patriots. But the

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Speaker 1: Jets made some moves. Bills made some moves to in

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Speaker 1: terms of volume. The Bills made a ton of moves,

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Speaker 1: and we all are familiar with who they've added and

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Speaker 1: where they've added those players. As I said, offensive line

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Speaker 1: mostly seven offensive lineman signed or drafted by the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 1: a couple of wide receivers three of them. So the

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Speaker 1: Bills are very active and very much you would think

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Speaker 1: improved roster with the additions they made. But don't dismiss

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Speaker 1: the Jets. Let's know, what you think eight h three

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Speaker 1: two five fifty. Which AFC team made the best roster

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Speaker 1: editions this offseason? All Right, we're just getting rolling here.

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Speaker 1: We've had a look at the rookie Minicamp practice. Thurman

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Speaker 1: Thomas to anybody to join us out here on set

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Speaker 1: in a moment. Plus, we'll get here more from Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermott about this rookie minicamp when we return. Come on back,

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Speaker 1: just getting rolling. One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back One Bills Live from One Bills Drive. Very happy

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Speaker 1: to have in studio with us for the next little

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Speaker 1: while here on the Friday afternoon show. Steve ZVK. We

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Speaker 1: did then the next best thing and got Hall of

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Speaker 1: Famer Thurman Thomas in studio with us. Welcome Thurmant. It's

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Speaker 1: been a long time. Have you been a long man?

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Speaker 1: How you been I've been well, we haven't seen you

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Speaker 1: since January. I'm told you haven't been on the show

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Speaker 1: since January. It's been that long. What you've been doing? Man?

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Speaker 1: We've been through everything. Have you traveled would even doing

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Speaker 1: I've done a little traveling, mostly working around this area,

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Speaker 1: but you know, just uh getting ready for the football season,

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Speaker 1: watching the draft and everything that's been going on since

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Speaker 1: I've been here since last January. So no, it's um,

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Speaker 1: you know, doing a little bit traveling with the family,

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Speaker 1: but mostly standing around here and doing working around. Joining

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Speaker 1: the weather in western New York. Yeah, and joining the

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Speaker 1: weather in western New York exactly. Yeah. We just met

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Speaker 1: the last for the first time and looked at him.

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Speaker 1: They were like, why is this happening? Why do we

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Speaker 1: live here? Can't we go outside and play right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well you just can't right now. Yeah, it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: a little rough. We don't like to complain about it

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Speaker 1: too much, but this spring has been pretty awful. It's

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Speaker 1: been pretty bad. Yeah, not even I mean can't even.

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Speaker 1: I told myself I wanted to play a lot more golf,

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Speaker 1: and I have started yet. Picked the wrong year, the

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Speaker 1: wrong year to pick. You haven't even played one yet

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Speaker 1: down in Florida, but not up here. I actually played

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Speaker 1: once here with a couple of buddies about two weeks ago. Okay,

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Speaker 1: how about tournaments if you've been around the country playing

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Speaker 1: in some of the famous celebrity tournaments. No, I've cut

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Speaker 1: down on some of those two. I just you know,

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's so much work for me to

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Speaker 1: be doing right here, you know, with my company that

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Speaker 1: that I've been kind of staying around here and doing

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Speaker 1: work and checking up on jobs and and things of

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Speaker 1: that nature. So I haven't been that I was supposed

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Speaker 1: to go to Derek Brooks and golf tournament, Yeah, Derek

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Speaker 1: Bruce golf tournament, and Emma Smith's golf tournament, and and

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Speaker 1: even Bruce was going, and I would just totally just

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Speaker 1: decline and just wanted to be here, just get some

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Speaker 1: work done. Yeah, you're gonna stop stop getting invited if

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Speaker 1: you don't go to those. Now they're still invite Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I usually had. We usually have a good time when

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just a great time and used to it. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm bringing Patty to a lot of these events,

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Speaker 1: and so she gets to meet some of the other

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Speaker 1: wives around the league that she's never met before, and

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Speaker 1: so it's always a good time. And uh, trying to

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Speaker 1: get a bills player there you know, so you feel

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Speaker 1: a little bit more comfortable. But now it's been great,

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Speaker 1: um so, um yeah, just excited to see what's going

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Speaker 1: on and over here. And we'd like to ask you

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Speaker 1: when you're on the show about the celebrity encounters that

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Speaker 1: you've had. Yeah, I have nothing to any and having

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Speaker 1: that Jack Nicholas despite it, we see him down in Florida, Okay,

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Speaker 1: when I've been down to Florida a couple of times

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Speaker 1: and ran into Narak, Yeah, ran in the Nicolari a

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Speaker 1: couple of times. So, like I said, haven't really been

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Speaker 1: doing that much traveling. Actually trying to have an opportunity

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Speaker 1: been there a couple of times. But overall just been

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Speaker 1: um here doing work, going to watch my son played

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Speaker 1: baseball whenever you can. You know, sometimes you're out there

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Speaker 1: is fifty degree. I'm like, just cancel the game. Nobody

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Speaker 1: wants to be out there right now. So it's been

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Speaker 1: a difficult spring, but you know, we're getting to it,

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Speaker 1: getting through it and moving forward. Your son, Thurman is

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Speaker 1: a junior or senior. He's a junior Atkinsian because he

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Speaker 1: made college decision Jetties. Not yet, not yet. You know,

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Speaker 1: and so, yeah, I think after this summer is over,

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Speaker 1: month and a half to play travel ball up there. Excellent. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so summer this summer, and so he'll get an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to really kind of showcase. I mean it's hard

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Speaker 1: He's an outfielder. He's an outfielder. Strong bat, strong bat,

642
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: strong bat. Yeah, it's bad, it's uh power, it's getting there.

643
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: He can hit for everything, for power, you know, it singles, doubles,

644
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: he can hit for power. So struggling a little bit

645
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: right now, But I think it's just I think all

646
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: the kids, when you look at these kids and they're

647
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: out there playing baseball, stay warm, I'm just trying to

648
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: stay warm, you know, and then you get to the

649
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: opportunity if you hit a bat and to catch you

650
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: wrong your hands and staying you know. So I mean

651
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, but they had a over the

652
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: spring break trip. They had a pretty good showing out

653
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: in in Florida, which they're out in Florida, and they

654
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: played better, you know. So that's tough. It's a long season.

655
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: And you mentioned your business a couple of times. I

656
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: think it'd be good to remind people you are in construction.

657
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: A construction, yea construction and telecommunication okay, and a little

658
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: on the energy side. Okay, So I'm in three three

659
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: different phases of it. Um. Yeah, we we've on a

660
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: construction company here in Buffalo twenty fourteen. Um, a lot

661
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: of it. Like you said, a lot of the stuff

662
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: that we will be doing would be renovation stuff. You know,

663
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: there's hardly any new design build here in the Buffalo area.

664
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: So we've done a great job. We work with a

665
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: company called guil Bank Construction. Uh they we they mentor

666
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: us because we're so small in this area. But we've

667
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: had a great relationship with him, and uh, you know,

668
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: we've been awarded our first contract um a couple of

669
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: weeks ago. But ex exciting. You know. It gets me

670
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: out and Patty out back into the community, you know,

671
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: because you have to go and you have to interview

672
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: for all these jobs and do your deal diligence of

673
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: trying to get everything in order to present to wherever

674
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: you're going to present to. And so, uh it just

675
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: allowed us to get back in the community. And and

676
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 1: we love that. And we have to send you back

677
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: here when you move back in town. You got back

678
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: here in two thousand and seven, okay, so twelve years yeah, yeah,

679
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: and no regrets, right you. Yeah, my whole family is

680
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: here now, even in Olivia, who used to live in Orlando,

681
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: when even when we moved back, she stayed there. She's

682
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: back here in the Buffalo area now working to try

683
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: and uh um um getting the construction knowledge right now,

684
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: as we would say. And she wants to work in

685
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: a company. So everything's great. Yeah, family's business. Everything's great.

686
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: As something a Hall of famer Therman Thomas in studio,

687
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: whether it's all right, let's talk about the bills you followed,

688
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: what's been going on around here. We haven't talked to

689
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: you since January. We got to ask you first, Let's

690
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: go back to the free agency time and they signed

691
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: Frank Gord. Do you have much of relationship with Frank

692
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: Gore if I've met Frank um twice twice actually, and

693
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: one of them the time was right here in a

694
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: tunnel over here at the stadium, and another one that

695
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: I think it was at a golf tourner I think

696
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: it was that Derek Brooks golf tournament, and so yeah,

697
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: I mean to see what this guy has been there,

698
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's not that far away from passing

699
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, Bear Sanders. Yeah, I mean he's been around

700
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: for and to think of the injury that he had

701
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: back at the University of Miami where he just totally

702
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: ripped his nil apart, and to see him man still, yeah,

703
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: you know what, he's not having the years we're having

704
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: a thousand yards or whatever. It's between five hundred and

705
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: seven hundred. But he makes an impact on the game.

706
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: It seems like whenever time did I watch him, and

707
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: so um great to have him around. Haven't met him

708
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: yet since I've been over here, but I mean you're

709
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: looking at you know, if you're talking about yards right now,

710
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: I think the Bills backfield lead there with him and right,

711
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: what do you think of that mixed back there? How

712
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: do you think that'll shake out? Yeah, then you got

713
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: a third round draft pick Singletary. Yeah, you know what

714
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: it's going to be in interesting to see. I think

715
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: when you bring in a player like Frank Gore, obviously

716
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: a veteran, Uh, you know, I've seen some highlights of

717
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: him where he's just you know, right now, he's doing

718
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: a great job of picking up the blitz. You know,

719
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: I've seen some packages with him and that, and obviously

720
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: you have Lashawan who wants to come back and and

721
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: improve that last year was a bad year. And uh

722
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: and what's the guy named Devin Singletary Singletary, Yes, I mean,

723
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: so the backfield is loaded. Uh. You know, I think

724
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: when you have these number of guys who can do numbers.

725
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: Obviously Frank Gore is not gonna get twenty carriage a

726
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: game from here on out in its best of his career,

727
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: maybe a game or two something like that. But I

728
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: think he brings that presidence in there and you can

729
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: see him probably doing what most of the gold line

730
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: shot yardage situation and relieving Lashaw McCoy. So it's an

731
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: exciting backfield. Um, all right, I mean I kind of

732
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: go back to the days of myself and Kenny Davis

733
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: and Carware Garner that was it. You know, well they

734
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: had three so, uh, you know what, picked up a

735
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: couple of offensive linement. It's gonna be a very good

736
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: training camp this year because there's a lot of jobs

737
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: out there that yeah that these guys can I mean

738
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: they picked what fourteen guys for free agent. Yeah, there's

739
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: like eighteen free agents and fourteen more offense and a

740
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: lot of offensive linements, yes, seven offensive line additions by

741
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: the draft or free agency. Yeah, and uh, nobody quite

742
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: knows who's gonna line up where are you? No, you don't,

743
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: And I think that's the you know, that's the unknown,

744
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: that's the competition part that comes out. I know a

745
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: couple of these guys um signed one year deals yep.

746
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: The guy from New England, yeah, Dan Waddle, Yeah, he's

747
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: tied a one year deal. Obviously bringing veterans guys like

748
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: that who have been in that situation before. So it's

749
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: going to be a very competitive training camp. And I

750
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: think when you look at Lashawan McCoy and Frank Gore

751
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: and you have that third guy who is it going

752
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: to be? Who is it going to be? Or the

753
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: two younger guys going to step up and might have

754
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: to I would say part ways with Lashawn or Frank

755
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: Gore or whatever. But if these couple of young guys

756
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: step up and prove that they can play, you know,

757
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 1: that turns into interesting battle throughout the throughout the training camp.

758
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: But I'm really looking forward offensive linement though. Yeah, and

759
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: you know the question becomes when do they need to

760
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: be in place? And you know, you'd like to have

761
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: it today or tomorrow, but it's not gonna be. They

762
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: might go into training camp a couple of weeks before

763
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: we know who's playing. Where is that a problem? You

764
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: know what, sometimes it could be a problem. But I

765
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: think if you find the right number of guys to

766
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: mess together at a certain point, like I said, you

767
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: have a I don't run Mitch coming from Kansas City, yep,

768
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: coming from Kansas City. So he's been there. You know,

769
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: he knows he can probably make that relationship. It's going

770
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: to be a new guard to his left or it's right.

771
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: He can make that relationship go a lot smoother than say,

772
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: if you had a rookie at that position, and so

773
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: I think, you know, you don't know who's going to

774
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: be the starters week one, but I think you have

775
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 1: a good idea throughout the training camp and throughout the

776
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: preseason games where okay, let's try this offensive lineman. You

777
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: want to have it together. But I think, but this

778
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: being such a young group, it's going to take some time.

779
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: But hopefully I'll be ready by week one. And we

780
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: have not talked to you since the draft. And in

781
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: the first round, the Bills got a guy from kind

782
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: of your neck of the woods, University of Houston. He

783
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: grew up outside Houston, and Oliver, did you were you

784
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: aware of him before the Bills? So like, oh, absolutely,

785
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: oh absolutely yeah. As soon as as soon as as

786
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 1: soon as the Bills drafted, my mom texts me and

787
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: she said, oh, he's gonna be a great player. I said,

788
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: where did you get this opposition observation from? He said,

789
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: I'm sitting next to your uncle. That's what he told

790
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: me to tell you. Like, okay, good enough, and so yeah, no,

791
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: I was. You know, he seemed like a very energetic guy.

792
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: You know, obviously, you know when you look at his

793
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: interviews and the way he speaks and the way he

794
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: talks and mention and guys like you know, Kyle Williams

795
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: and his career and how he was. So you know,

796
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: the guy has done his homework, you know. And uh,

797
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: he was one of the guys that really talked about

798
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: the new workout facility. You know, before he got drafted,

799
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: he had a visit up here and said it was

800
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: one of the best in the leagues that he's been around.

801
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: And uh, and so he's a very energetic guy. And uh,

802
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: you know what he and he I don't know if

803
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, he won't be really playing that nose guard

804
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: that nose guard position. He'll be in that three technique

805
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: and uh, but you're seeing it in college he did

806
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: play some of those no taker, but yeah, to have

807
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: him here, um yeah, it's uh interesting to see. You know.

808
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: I hope he does well. I think he will does

809
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: will do well. So but the other guys have to

810
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: come to play to I've always said that, uh, you know,

811
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: Bruce even when he drafted. A couple of minutes after that,

812
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: Bruce Coffin and say, we need still need some pass rushers. Yeah,

813
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: I know, what does he called that the gang of

814
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: what does he call you the seventh President, the dead presidents?

815
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: What does he call you, guys? Guys? Yeah, I forgot

816
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: I don't even know it. Yeah, I don't even know

817
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: it now. But uh no, I'm really looking forward to this.

818
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: This is it's gonna be an exciting year. Yeah, yeah,

819
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean because when you look at and

820
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: sounded some of the draft experts or whatever they say,

821
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: we had a great draft and great free agent they

822
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: were looking like we're one of the surprise teams that

823
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: might happen, you know. And I think coach McDermot and

824
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: Brian Brandon Bean have done an excellent job and really

825
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: bringing in their type of players. Yeah, they're type of players.

826
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: And this is a third year, right, so you expect

827
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: I expect from what they have done on paper, who

828
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: they've signed, I expect them to, you know, come out

829
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: and compete this year. All Right, we're with Thurmon's gonna

830
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: be with us for an hour or so, and we're

831
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about and I want to

832
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: play some more of what the Sean McDermot had to

833
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: say today as rookie Mini camp begins, and we'll talk

834
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: to Thurman about rookies and mini camp when we come back,

835
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: Come on back with us. You can phone in your

836
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: comments and questions for therm or to answer our question

837
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: which AFCC made the best roster editions this offseason. We'll

838
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: read some of those tweets when we come back. One

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Speaker 1: Doll's Live presented by Kalaida Health from One Bill's Drive.

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00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome Back One goes live

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy with Thurman Thomas in

842
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 1: for the vacationing Steve Tasker. Here's one of the questions

843
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: we've been asking folks all week. Are you amazed at

844
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: the amount of vacation time Steve Tasker gets? Some people

845
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 1: have brought it up. I'm alright with it, really okay,

846
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be out of here in a minute. The

847
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: fans of bringing people on Twitter bringing it. Fine with

848
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 1: it because I'm gonna you won't see me in June.

849
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm out. But it's it's, it's it's notable. Is it

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Speaker 1: really well? People have made note of it to me, right,

851
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: I haven't really noticed. I thought he was at here

852
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: every day. He hasn't been well, he hasn't been here

853
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: all week. But it's it's it's it's kind of a

854
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: recurring thing. But that's good. Take your vacations long. You're

855
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: here during the seasons when it really counts, right, Yeah,

856
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: I guess. Hey, um, I want to ask you about

857
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: the leadership a little bit. When we were talking about

858
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: Frank Gore and what he could mean, and I wondered

859
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: too about the loss of Derek Anderson. Let's talk about

860
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: Gore first, because when you talk to Bean and McDermott

861
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: about Gore and his edition to the roster, they go

862
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: right to the leadership that he provides and the example

863
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: he provides. It's that real, it's that tangible. I think

864
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: that's real. I mean, you talk about a guy who's

865
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: what in this year, thirteen year, who's been with San Francisco,

866
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: Miami last year and was it somewhere else? Yeah, Yeah,

867
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: he's been around. So I mean but you know what,

868
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: obviously when you look at the guy, he it still

869
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 1: looks like he's in shape. Uh, you know, he's been around.

870
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: He comes from university to Miami and you know, and

871
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: they've always had guys that were right on top of

872
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: when it comes to like leadership, and when you look

873
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: at like the top two guys, it's probably Ray Lewis

874
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: and Ed Reid, you know, coming from the University of Miami.

875
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, I think that's a that's a big

876
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: part on any football team. And I think um Sean

877
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 1: McDermott has said that that, you know, having that leadership

878
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: in every single room, but the offensive lineman, defensive lineman

879
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: or what have you, uh, is very key to having

880
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: a successful team and having a team that can really

881
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: lean on somebody for that leadership that has been in

882
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: these situations before. Because you do have a young quarterback

883
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: in Josh Allen, so um with that being said, and yeah,

884
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: you know for that reason especially right, for that reason. Yeah,

885
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: maybe Ken Dorsey the new quarterback coach that right, Yeah,

886
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: and you would hope. So, I mean he's here's here's

887
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: a guy who another you guys, why were gooding these

888
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: you guys University of Miami. Yeah, he's a quarter he

889
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: was a quarterback in this league for a number of years.

890
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: It didn't really you know, pan out the way he

891
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: wanted to pan out. But when you have that type

892
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: of coaching that have been on the field. And now

893
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: where did he come from. He was a Carolina couple. Yeah,

894
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: he was coaching in the NFL last right, he was so,

895
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: But at least you have someone there that can be

896
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: in contact and have a conversation with Josh Allen, have

897
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: a conversation with Brian Dable too. I mean, I think

898
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: those guys will probably work hand in hand with each other.

899
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: So but you know, it's uh always good to have

900
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: that veteran leadership. Jim needed it with Frank and you know,

901
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: and that was huge for our success. All right, Thurmans

902
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: with us till what You're gonna be around for another

903
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: hour or so? Sure, yeah, I'm here. He got nothing

904
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: to do. He was gonna play golf with the weather.

905
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: Took care of that. Come on back and get your

906
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: questions there for Thurman. You can address our question of

907
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: the day, which AFC East team made the best roster

908
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: editions this offseason? On the Twitter poll, it's over whelmingly

909
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: in favor of the Bills. But open up a little

910
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: bit and think about the Jets. We're gonna talk about that.

911
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: Maybe take some calls and comments on that or anything

912
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: else you got for Thrm. He'll be with us for

913
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: a while. Come on back. One Bills Live from One

914
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio Hills Radio Network

915
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 1: Stories day Bills in day one of their rookie minicamp.

916
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: Right now, fifty four players in for the Rookie Minicamp,

917
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: draft picks, undrafted players, players on tryouts. They have work

918
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: to do as they go through the motions here at

919
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: one Bills Drive. They're on the field as we speak,

920
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: outdoors outside the ad Pro Sports Training Center. Seven of

921
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: the bills eight draft picks have a great determs and

922
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: signed their contracts. They're all in practice today, including first

923
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: round draft pick Ed Oliver, second rounder Cody Ford, third

924
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: round pick running back Devin Singletary, fifth rounder of Bashawn Joseph,

925
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: sixth rounder Jaquan Johnson, and seventh round picks Darrell Johnson

926
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: and Tommy Sweeney. The only unsigned rookie so far is

927
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: the tight end Dawson Knox out of Old Miss, and

928
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: the Bills added eight undrafted rookies to the mix. Linebacker

929
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 1: Tyrell Dodson, wide receiver Nick Easley, linebacker Jiwan Foggy, offensive

930
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: lineman Blake Hants, quarterback Tyree Jackson, and cornerback Cam Lewis

931
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: from ub kicker Chase McLaughlin, and wide receiver David Sills.

932
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: All of them here. Bills lost one the Derek Anderson,

933
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: the veteran quarterback who will turn thirty six year old

934
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: thirty six years old next month, decided to retire instead,

935
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: stepping aside after fourteen seasons in the NFL. Head coach

936
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: On McDermot said no decision yet on whether the Bills

937
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: go with three or two quarterbacks this fall. The first

938
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: overall pick in the draft officially signed. The Cardinals announced

939
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: late yesterday they had signed quarterback Kyler Murray, who they

940
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: chose with the number one selection in the draft. Dolphins

941
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 1: are making young quarterback Xaviian Howard, the NFL's highest paid corner,

942
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 1: a five year, seventy six and a half million dollars

943
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: deal forty six million dollars guaranteed he'll make fifty one

944
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: million over the first three years of the deal. Seattle

945
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: Seahawks with a couple of big leashes yesterday. Wide receiver

946
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin and safety Cam Chancellor both terminated contracts from

947
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. Teahawks GM John Schneider said they are

948
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: two of the most iconic players in franchise history, but

949
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: they have been released. Jaguars linebacker Telvin Smith announced on

950
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: social media yesterday he will not play football this year,

951
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: but left open the possibility of a return in twenty twenty.

952
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 1: That's the update from One Bill's Drive. I'm John Murphy

953
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas Hall of Famer in studio with us for

954
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: the next little while or so as the Bills continue

955
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: their offseason mini camp workout rookie minicamp workout, Thurman, I

956
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: don't remember a mini camp workout back in your day,

957
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: you know, twenty twenty five years ago, there were there

958
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: were mini camps, there were offseason conditioning things, but I

959
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: don't remember it being as extensive and as lengthy as

960
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: they do now. No, I think miniicam was like Thursday,

961
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: go home, Sunday even yea for everybody, right, everybody, Yeah,

962
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: rookies and veterans. Everybody will report for four or five

963
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: days just to you know, Russey Jones, jes to see

964
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: where you're, where you're at in shape wise, if you're

965
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: way good or whatever. But no, it wasn't. It wasn't

966
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: like it was like it is today. And this is

967
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: a voluntary they call it. This portion of it is

968
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: voluntary offseason conditioning that'll go on for another week or two,

969
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: then they get to organized team activity again. Voluntary and

970
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: then they get to a mandatory minicamp in mid June.

971
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: But even though it's not mandatory, people are here and

972
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 1: they're all over the NFL. Everybody goes to work this

973
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: time of year. Yeah, it's surprised by that. Very surprised too.

974
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: And and and I think when when I say surprised,

975
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that I see so many veterans going. Yeah,

976
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: you know, those are the guys who have been through

977
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: the wars, that have been the league for six or

978
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: seven years. It's not like you have a coaching change

979
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: now that would be something totally different. If you had

980
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: a coaching change, you would but still even been in

981
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 1: the veteran you know a lot of the packages on

982
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: defense that you're doing a offense doesn't really change. I

983
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: think the the biggest will be for probably an offensive

984
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: guy doing it a defensive guy in the secondary, you know,

985
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: all the coverages or whatever. But uh, yeah, it's uh,

986
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different than than back when we

987
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: used to have mini camp, mini camp and training camp.

988
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: But you know, they're paying guys a lot more money.

989
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: And and if they say as voluntary slash mandatary paying

990
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: you managed, you're probably gonna be here. Yeah, you're probably

991
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: gonna be here. Jack Bart's president of Tom Coughlin, got

992
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: in trouble a couple of weeks ago when he criticized

993
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: guys who are not at the voluntary mini campag trouble

994
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: with the league. Um, you know you're not. It's it's

995
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: it's kind of a weird union thing. You're not supposed

996
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: to say. That was when Jalen Ramsey, Right, yes, yes,

997
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to say anything. I guess if people

998
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: don't attend the lunt voluntary mini camp, you're supposed to

999
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 1: just and they don't publicize who's here, which is fine.

1000
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: I don't need to just fine, right, Yeah, But I

1001
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: think like it goes back to Okay, Jalen Ramsey probably

1002
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: one of the top two or three corners in the league. Yeah,

1003
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: he don't need to be there. I mean, his workout

1004
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: system works for him, and that's the way I think

1005
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 1: it is for a lot of veteran guys. I don't

1006
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: think you'll see every veteran guy maybe coming in here

1007
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: to go through every mandatory not mandatory mini camp. So

1008
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: you know, I think it all depends on the player,

1009
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: and I think it all depends on the coach. Shoot,

1010
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: if you're if you're Bill Belichick, he probably wanted his

1011
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: guys there. I didn't have no idea, right, but Sean

1012
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: McDermott has put something out there that these players believe in,

1013
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: and that's probably why you got ninety five guys out here,

1014
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: and most of the rookies are here. Rookie Minicamp is

1015
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: interesting too. When dermott talked this morning, I want to

1016
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: play this sound by McDermott was asked today about the

1017
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: first impressions. I'll keep in mind they walked through the

1018
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: door yesterday afternoon, these rookies, and they probably had a

1019
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,479
Speaker 1: meeting last night, meeting this morning to walk through this morning.

1020
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: And McDermott was asked about his first impressions of the rookies.

1021
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say. Yeah, I thought they

1022
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: were nervous to be expected really right. Um there, you know, listen,

1023
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: it's a good group and i've you know again, we've

1024
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: we're off to a good start. You know, there's there's

1025
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: a lot of work to get done here. So um,

1026
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: I don't think you really know about a draft class

1027
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: until you're two or three years down the road. So

1028
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: all those draft grades you know, and that's that's for

1029
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: all you all you guys out there. You know, we'll

1030
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: know a little bit more once we get going and

1031
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: guys actually um in particular them, we get the training camp.

1032
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: I mean, today is good to get acclimated to the systems,

1033
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: as was mentioned earlier and one of the questions, But

1034
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's not really football

1035
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: until we get the training camp where pats come on

1036
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 1: and the physical elements. Added interesting when he said getting

1037
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: acclimated to the building, I'm thinking they gotta they gotta

1038
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: spend part of their time, either last night or this morning,

1039
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: just showing these guys around the complex. Here where you going,

1040
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: Here's the locker room, here's the weight room. Right, they

1041
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: gotta show them here's what we have here. They got

1042
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: to spend some time with that. I think a little bit, right, Yeah,

1043
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: I mean, because you know, you're into a new, new

1044
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: place and you don't know where to go. I mean,

1045
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: if you got to meet the nine o'clock trying to

1046
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: get there at eight forty five because I don't know

1047
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: where go, Yeah, I don't want to be late. So yeah,

1048
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: it's uh, like I said, I can remember when I

1049
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: got here back in nineteen eighty eight, my first Mini Camp.

1050
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: I didn't know where to go whatever. I lashed on

1051
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: to Rob Riddick and kind of followed his lead and

1052
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: noticing that he was showing up to the meetings thirty

1053
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: second before it started. So I found somebody else. Somebody else. Yeah,

1054
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: not a good example, Rob Riddick. When we were looking

1055
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: at some of the video for Mini Camp, the new

1056
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: running back a single theory, wheres number forty? And I said, hey,

1057
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: that's Rob Riddicks number, right, wasn't that Rob? Yeah? It

1058
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: was wrong. A lot of number forties around here. No,

1059
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: I haven't been a lot of defensive backs. I think

1060
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: were the running backs? Yeah, Eric Eric Smedley wore forty.

1061
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: I think, wow, you pulled that one out. Oh yeah,

1062
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: Eric Smedley. Yeah, even though there have been a lot

1063
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: of forties. Right, And I saw that number, said while

1064
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: he's wearing rab riddis number. Yeah, And people are listening

1065
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: to the reddy seeing who the heck is Rob Riddick. Really,

1066
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: I saw him at your event last he was at

1067
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: my event. Yeah, I have not seen him in decades.

1068
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. First I tell you when I lashed

1069
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: on to him, and after that I was with somebody

1070
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: else and uh, first time ever we play a first

1071
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: preseason game. We come into the locker room and Rob

1072
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: sits at his locker and starts smoking a cigarette. I

1073
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: was like, I was wow, is this the National Football League?

1074
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: You can smoke in the locker room. I was gonna

1075
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: say that. I just gonna say, I don't know. I

1076
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: don't think Rob would mind telling that story, but I

1077
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: was stunned too. And he was smoking at halftime, yeah,

1078
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: right up right over in the car. It was directly

1079
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: across from my locker. I was like, wow, pretty cool. Yeah,

1080
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: he was a good player. Yeah, he was a tough guy.

1081
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: You know. I was from Millersville State, Pennsylvania. Yeah, And

1082
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: the one thing that I remember about Rob Rittick is

1083
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: how how tough he was. I mean, he had he

1084
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 1: had turf toe, and which is if you know anything

1085
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: about turf to its very painful to walk on and

1086
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: especially try to run on. And it really never goes away,

1087
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: It never really goes away. And before every game my

1088
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: rookie year, Rob used to take a needle to the

1089
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: toe that it's a bone that you have to put

1090
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: it in. Oh God, that's why he was smoking that

1091
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: he was tough and that's why he was supposed after that.

1092
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 1: But he was he was he was a tough guy.

1093
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: And uh, he was you know, he was a guy

1094
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 1: when I first came here who I really talked to

1095
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: because he was the guy him and Ronnie Harmon and

1096
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: he was rob was the short yardist, goal line type

1097
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: thing that Kenny was when we played together. So the

1098
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: rookies are here, McDermott was asked this today, Uh, even

1099
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: though they're just getting used to where they are and

1100
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: what it looks like around here. But McDermot was had

1101
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: what do you what do you look for from the

1102
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: rookies this weekend? What are you looking to see? Here's

1103
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: what he had to say. But you know, you start

1104
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: off with just seeing how they um really start to

1105
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: integrate into what we do. And these guys are all

1106
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 1: coming from different They're all like, you know, free agents,

1107
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: if you use that type of example, coming from colleges

1108
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: and some have been out, some of the trial guys

1109
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: this this uh this year, have been out maybe a

1110
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 1: year or two as well, so that they're all coming

1111
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: from different spots, different locker rooms, different cultures, and it's

1112
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: important that they start to integrate themselves. Into our standard

1113
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: and how we do things. And the sooner they do that,

1114
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: the better. The sooner they do that, the quicker we

1115
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: can make progress and start the head in the right direction.

1116
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: So we were talking about a term about it. So

1117
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: they're out there practicing, these rookies, fifty four of them offense, defense,

1118
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: a couple of special teamers. How do they even run plays?

1119
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they're holding up cards and saying

1120
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: but it has to be kind of a disjointed, especially today. Right,

1121
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: they just got here, Yeah, they just got here. And

1122
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: it's coal. Yeah, and it's coal. The weather's not good.

1123
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: So you know what you like, I say that veteran

1124
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: leadership wherever you are, whatever you're doing. I mean, you'll

1125
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: see a lot of these guys like, um, who's a

1126
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: running back coach? I don't even know who the running

1127
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: back coach is, Skipper. They're they're close to him, like

1128
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: they're they haven't been before. Yeah, yeah, they're they're next

1129
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 1: to him trying to figure out here a little things

1130
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: about what he's saying, maybe to the running back that's

1131
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: doing a drill now whatever, you know, So they're really

1132
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: really close to him. But I have to think, you know,

1133
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: it's definitely a wake up call. You don't want to be,

1134
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: you know, out there and look lost. You want to

1135
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: be out there and kind of be relaxed, but you

1136
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: know you have to put in your mind, Okay, look,

1137
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: this is this is early. This is early. And like

1138
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 1: coach McDermot said, yeah, if you want to do the mistakes,

1139
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: so make mistakes now. This is the time to do

1140
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: it because when you put those pads on, there's a

1141
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: very small percentage that you try to have to have

1142
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: those mistakes limited. You're just thinking about all those rookies

1143
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: and even like the draft picks who come from Houston

1144
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: and Florida and Miamis. They're out there today thinking it's

1145
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: true about Buffalo. The way it's when they're all year

1146
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: longer right there out there today thinking here it May

1147
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: May eighth, May tenth, and it's forty something degrees. They're

1148
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: all thinking it was right. They were all right what

1149
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 1: they told me about Buffalo. Yeah, and I'm sure I'm

1150
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: sure everybody probably said that to them, Yeah you're going

1151
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: to Buffalo, Buffalo, Yeah, get the code it's gonna be

1152
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: And they're going home after this weekend and saying you

1153
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: were right, You're right. Hey, here's what Adam Gase, new

1154
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: head coach of the Jets, former coach of the Dolphins,

1155
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 1: he thinks rocky minicamps are a waste. He said, what's

1156
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: the upside here? Most of the players forget what they've

1157
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: been taught. Anyway, they could be injured. Everybody does it.

1158
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: The Jets even did it. But Adam Gay says rocky

1159
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: miniicamps are are kind of a waste and thinks that

1160
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: teams should scrap the rookie mini caamps. I don't know

1161
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: what do you think. I think teams. I mean, the

1162
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: draft was two weeks ago. I think teams want to

1163
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: get a look at their guys. They want to have

1164
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: contact with them before they get the trainer. Yeah. I

1165
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: think I think it's important that all these guys get

1166
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: together and try to figure out, you know, Okay, he

1167
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: plays defensive tackle. He's on the defense side of the ball. Yeah,

1168
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: you want to get those guys acting me to kind

1169
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: of figure out, Okay, what I'm dealing with here? You know,

1170
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: is he a good guy? Is you know what this

1171
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: guy alike? I think it's very important that you have

1172
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: them guys there. Yeah, I give it two years random gaze, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah,

1173
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: I'm not impressed either. Not impressed. Hey, which as always

1174
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: with the Jets and we're asking about AFCAS teams, Let's

1175
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: take a look at our Twitter poll. Which AFC East

1176
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: team made the best roster editions this offseason? Whyt to

1177
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: get Therman involved in this. You can get involved as

1178
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: well on Twitter. It's on Twitter at one Bills Live.

1179
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: Which AFC East team made the best roster editions this offseason?

1180
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: Give us a call. You can vote in the Twitter

1181
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: poll right now. Eighty six percent of you say the Bills,

1182
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: nine percent, eight percent say the Jets, three percent say

1183
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,959
Speaker 1: the Patriots, two percent say the Dolphins, eighty seven percent

1184
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: say the Bills. You laugh because I look, I get it,

1185
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: they're Bills fans watching. But you have to acknowledge that

1186
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: the Jets have made some moves here, right, No, I

1187
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: think so you have to acknowledge that, Yeah, they have

1188
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: made some moves. NN and williams Levan Bell, CJ. Mosley.

1189
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: Those are important editions, very important. You could argue pretty

1190
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: easily that the Jets have made more important additions and

1191
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: the Bills have. I think that would be in a

1192
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: very arguable case. Yeah, but I think if why it's

1193
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: so low, it's because of the head coach. I think

1194
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: that has a lot to do it. I mean, you come,

1195
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: you've seen what he's done over the past three years

1196
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: with the Miami Dolphins, and he's still in that still

1197
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: in this division. And yes, I think even with the

1198
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: players that they have had it. I mean, there wasn't

1199
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: bad players in Miami, he just couldn't bring them together

1200
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: to make them better. But I think when you have

1201
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: guys like um C J. Moses, like you said, that's

1202
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: coming in Levion Bell, you know he's looking to prove

1203
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: himself again. You got a young quarterback in Sam Donald,

1204
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: and I keep forgetting the safety that's so good. Adams. Yeah,

1205
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: we had him on the show the Super Bowl. He is,

1206
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: he's a great guest. He's a great guest. Heck of

1207
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: a football player. Yeah, I mean he's he the game here.

1208
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: He put it to us pretty bad. So, I mean

1209
00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: they have some some strengths on their defense. Greig Williams

1210
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: coaching that defense. Yeah, so you know they're gonna be

1211
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: coming coming at you, coming at you every single play.

1212
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: So but like you said, we're here in Buffalo. We

1213
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: see the moves that we've made and but I think

1214
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: the Jets. I think the Jets helped themselves tremendously over

1215
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: the offseason. I don't think the Dolphins got better. I

1216
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: definitely don't think they got better. I think they're kind

1217
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: of looking for some some quarterback to come out that

1218
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: they're eyeing on. Right now, they're gonna be there. Guy

1219
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: do you think could be their guy? You know now

1220
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: he has a chip on his shoulder now too, so

1221
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: that could go on. And obviously with the Patriots is

1222
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: just okay, reload, just reload with twelve. You can just

1223
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: go from there. Their big their first round pick, and

1224
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: to kill Harry from Arizona State, a really good acquisition,

1225
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: a guy that I think had he been around in

1226
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: the second round the Bills might have been interested in.

1227
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: Although I know they love Cody Ford, but Harry could

1228
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: be a difference maker. And that's an offense that kind

1229
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: of they weren't stumbling last year, but they weren't as

1230
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: high powered as they had been in the past. Sometimes, look,

1231
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: the Patriots have one for so long that they kind

1232
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: of play different offense. Right, Sometimes they're up, sometimes they're down.

1233
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: But Harry could be a really good addition to Tom

1234
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: Brady screen yeah, he could be in is that the

1235
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: wide receiver, that's the wide receivers of the state, Arizona State. Yeah,

1236
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: he's uh yeah, he's proven himself. So, I mean people

1237
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: say it looks like in plays like Michael Irvin. I

1238
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: can see that when you watch him play. Yeah, I mean,

1239
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, and how many times we're going to say this,

1240
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't have hurt to have number twelve back? Yeah,

1241
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: I mean he's definitely now you're probably gonna see this guy.

1242
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's gonna get some catches if he

1243
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: can stay healthy and be and learn that system up there.

1244
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: You know, he's like a big, strong guy that can run.

1245
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see how that new England

1246
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: offense changes without Gronkowski too, right, who was a reliable

1247
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: when he was healthy, or reliable target for Brady and

1248
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: kind of a different target that a whole lot of

1249
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: teams didn't have, you know, a big tight end running

1250
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: down the middle of the field sometimes wide open. Yeah.

1251
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: But you know, I think for the last couple of

1252
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: years though you didn't see that often, you didn't see

1253
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: that as much as you did prior to the prior

1254
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: six or seven years. I think, you know, there were

1255
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: times when I think late in the season or in

1256
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: the playoffs, didn't even catch a pass. Yeah. Yeah, So

1257
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm always a good blocker, always a good blocker. Yeah,

1258
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: not a great blocker. Were always a good blocker, guy

1259
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: that can get in a way that can seal off,

1260
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: you know, some of the defensive ends. But oh definitely

1261
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: will be missed though. A couple of tweets on the

1262
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: tweet sheet, when we asked the question which AFC East

1263
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: team made the best roster editions this offseason, Jeremiah says Bills.

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Speaker 1: The other teams made a couple seemingly quality editions here

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Speaker 1: and there, but the Bills made huge editions. They pretty

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Speaker 1: much revamped their entire offensive line with quality, experienced players. Look,

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Speaker 1: I know where we are and I know what we

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Speaker 1: talk about, but it be hard. You have a hard

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Speaker 1: time telling me the Jets editions weren't more splashy, weren't

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Speaker 1: bigger editions than what the Bills did. I get it,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I know the names who the Bills got,

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Speaker 1: But boy, when you add Levion Bell and you had

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Speaker 1: Quinnon Williams, and you had CJ. Mosley, those are huge

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Speaker 1: editions for the Jets. I don't know if the Bills

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Speaker 1: can match up with that, which is not to say

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Speaker 1: the Bills are I think the Bills are going to

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Speaker 1: be better than the Jets, but it's hard to dismiss

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Speaker 1: what the Jets did and say the Bills made better additions,

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Speaker 1: bigger additions. What do you think you're looking at me? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: here's one from head coach. Here's one from keep saying man,

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Speaker 1: here's one from Nick. I believe the Jets had the

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Speaker 1: best high profile signings, That's what I'm saying. But I

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Speaker 1: feel all the move of the Bills made will take

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Speaker 1: them to the next level perfect. That's exactly what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Nick says I wanted the wide receiver the Jets got

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Speaker 1: crowd or I didn't even put him in. I mean

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Speaker 1: even think about him. I think he's a great signing.

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Speaker 1: Mosley is nice. I don't care about Levi on Bell.

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Speaker 1: They don't have Pittsburgh's offensive Bills will be better, Go Bills.

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Speaker 1: But I agree, I think the Jets had the highest

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Speaker 1: profile signing. The Bills have volume um. But again, we

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Speaker 1: don't know which of those many offensive linemen are going

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Speaker 1: to actually line up and play. Some of them are

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Speaker 1: gonna have to. I would think Spencer Long and of course,

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Speaker 1: uh the man in the middle, Uh Mitch, Mitch Morris

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Speaker 1: are going to be prominent starters, I would think. But

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Speaker 1: other than that, I don't know how they're gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: I mean Deon Dawkins, right, Deon Dawkins coming back? Yep. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So Bryan tweets us and well, I think the Bills

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Speaker 1: filled more of their holes and we'll make a bigger leap.

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Speaker 1: I would argue the Jets got the best players, as example,

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Speaker 1: why they got Bell. Their offensive line looks weak. We

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Speaker 1: did not get the high end players, but we'll be

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Speaker 1: a more complete team because of it. There you go.

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Speaker 1: That's spirit. That's what I think too, Brian and Nick,

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Speaker 1: because we just don't want it all to be about

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Speaker 1: the Bills, right, Well, I mean you have. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was a great season here, but come on, it

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Speaker 1: was the Jets added players, added big time players. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do you think? Give us a call eight fifty

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Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Gary on the line on a cell phone. Hold Gary,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air with this. Hey guys,

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Speaker 1: how y'all doing good? Thank you? Gary? Hey, Thurman, Hey Man,

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Speaker 1: want to say come to you. While I was a

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Speaker 1: young kid, I used to watch those ninety teams. I've

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Speaker 1: been trying to get a hold of you for years

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Speaker 1: on the phone, like my twentieth time trying to call

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Speaker 1: y'all when you're on there. I want to tell you much.

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Speaker 1: I really really enjoy watching those teams. I have all

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Speaker 1: y'all jerseys. I have a wall with your jersey on there.

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Speaker 1: I have all your cards. I want to say thank

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Speaker 1: you for the great time. When I was a kid

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Speaker 1: watching those teams, it was awesome. I appreciate it, man,

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. And you know, if another guy

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Speaker 1: was sitting here, Bruce or Jim or Task or whatever,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, they would say the same thing.

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Speaker 1: And we we always always appreciated the fans here more

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Speaker 1: than you guys can ever imagine. And you guys were

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Speaker 1: a big part of our success. And I just hopefully,

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Speaker 1: you know, going into Sean mcdermot's third year, that he

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Speaker 1: can you know, turn this franchise around. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're when we're good, we're good for the NFL, and uh,

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Speaker 1: let's hope this year can be that year. Thanks Gary Man.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys. Anyway, I think the Bills are the best

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Speaker 1: of all season. I like to Okay, all right, thanks Garry.

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Speaker 1: I think they are a great offseason. I do. But

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Speaker 1: the Jets have been solid with the moves they made. Now, look,

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Speaker 1: I have questions about Adam Gates too. Not a fan,

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Speaker 1: Yeah I have. It's about the GM Mike mccagnen. But

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Speaker 1: when you can add Lemon Bell and c J. Mosley

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Speaker 1: and the receiver Crowder and draft Quinnin Williams, that's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty good offseason. It's pretty good hall of talent.

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Speaker 1: I think the Jets, yeah, no doubt, no doubt it is.

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Speaker 1: And here's a team that we split with last year. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we split. Yeah, And we we've hadded some players, and

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Speaker 1: they've added some players. And I think really their main

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Speaker 1: player though, is probably c. J. Mosley. He solidifies that

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Speaker 1: that middle for them. And I think when the Jets

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Speaker 1: have been good, you know, they've had great defenses and

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Speaker 1: they've had great linebackers, so this will be a perfect

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Speaker 1: fit for him. What do you think we got? Phone

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Speaker 1: lines open eight three fifty two three one eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty A tweet from Brian on

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. It doesn't seem like the audience is

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Speaker 1: very biased, he says, Buffalo Bills through and through, but

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Speaker 1: I went Miami. Miami had a very good draft, which

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Speaker 1: includes the franchise quarterbacks. Some diehard Buffalo fans wanted to

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Speaker 1: hear a name called when we chose Allen a year ago?

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Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins, head coach, et cetera. Huge Well, he makes

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Speaker 1: some interesting points. Yeah, they're a year ago. Right about now,

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Speaker 1: there were still people saying the Bills made a big mistake.

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Speaker 1: They got Josh Allen instead of Josh Rosen. Right there

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Speaker 1: were Bills fans who said that did you Yeah, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you didn't. You weren't one. Oh yeah, No, I wasn't one. No,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't one. I was. I was. I wasn't a

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Speaker 1: big Rosen fan. You neither. No. I like the guy

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Speaker 1: that got I liked it. A year ago there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of Bills fanciers said about how do they

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Speaker 1: miss on Rosen? Yeah, well here's Rosen. Now. I think

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Speaker 1: he still got a chance to be good. And now

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Speaker 1: we'll see it with Miami. By the way, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be fun to have Rosen Darnold and Josh Allen all

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Speaker 1: in the same division with the veteran quarterback up in

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Speaker 1: the gonna keep throwing it any fun that he could

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Speaker 1: tears a point. Those guys now in their second year,

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Speaker 1: all in the same division, played each other twice a year.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be a lot of fun. I think it

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Speaker 1: will be a lot of fun. This division is shaping

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Speaker 1: up to be one of the more competitive division, especially

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Speaker 1: at the QB position. Now, I don't think I don't

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Speaker 1: think Josh Rosen is going to be up there the

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Speaker 1: top tier quarterbacks. But looking at Sam Donald, looking at

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Speaker 1: Josh out Um and having Tom Brady, you know you

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Speaker 1: could have a really good quarterback future here in the

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Speaker 1: AFC for a long time. Now. Who the Patriots? Who?

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Speaker 1: Who did they pick up in the draft? Yeah, Harry,

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver we're talking about. Did they pick up

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Speaker 1: a quarterback too? Yeah? The Auburn quarterbacks stid him Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Auburn quarterback backup back. Yeah. But Brady looks like he's

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Speaker 1: going to continue to play teas fifty. You might one

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Speaker 1: more from the tweet sheet on our question here from Tiffany.

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Speaker 1: She says, I feel the Bills have added several solid

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Speaker 1: editions this offseason. Tyree Jackson could be the biggest steal

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Speaker 1: off the of the bunch. With some coaching and work

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Speaker 1: on his fundamentals, he could prove to be a valuable

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Speaker 1: asset to the team down the road. You cannot have

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Speaker 1: enough quality quarterbacks. Tyree Jackson from UB The Bills picked

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Speaker 1: him up right after the draft. What do you think though?

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Speaker 1: It was great? I actually the kid was gonna get drafted.

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Speaker 1: I think everybody did. I thought the kid was going

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Speaker 1: to get drafted. And I don't know what happened between

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Speaker 1: the draft and to Combine and all the way to

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Speaker 1: the draft that he did. I mean, the guy put

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Speaker 1: up numbers, right, He put up some some really good

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Speaker 1: numbers that I know. People always say, well he plays

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Speaker 1: in the mac yep. You know, people are always going

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Speaker 1: to have but they've been good, good quarterbacks. They've been

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Speaker 1: good quarterbacks coming and there's been some bad quarterbacks that

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Speaker 1: have come out of some high profile Power five teams

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Speaker 1: in college football. So I was very surprised that someone

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Speaker 1: didn't draft this kid, but obviously been twenty years old

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Speaker 1: right here in Buffalo at home. Um, you got two

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Speaker 1: young young quarterbacks right now? Really you know, and uh so,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think he'll get his opportunity. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, being here in the Buffalo area. Uh, Coach

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Speaker 1: Being and coach McDermott obviously did their home work on

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Speaker 1: him and wanted, you know, wanted him to be here.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they would have drafted him or whatever,

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Speaker 1: but hey, have him here, send him around for a

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Speaker 1: couple of years. Who knows what this kid can do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's something where they see progress with

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Speaker 1: him and and some other team might want him. Some

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Speaker 1: other team might want it. What do you get for

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Speaker 1: a draft pick for him? You know, I think that'll

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Speaker 1: be a couple of years down the line. Though. The

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Speaker 1: retirement of Derek Anderson opens up a lot of doors

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Speaker 1: for Tyree Jackson, including preseason game playing time that might

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Speaker 1: gets the attention of somebody else around the league, right,

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Speaker 1: and somebody who probably went into the draft thinking he's

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Speaker 1: an interesting prospect. Look at the size, look at the

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Speaker 1: big arm. We don't know if he's worth the draft pick.

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Speaker 1: But now he gets into what if he plays the

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Speaker 1: entire fourth preseason game, right, it showed people while we

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Speaker 1: can play a little bit. It has happened before and obviously,

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Speaker 1: I've heard great things about this young man, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, really pull pulling for him. You know, if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't get the opportunity here with the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 1: hopefully he'll get that opportunity somewhere else international football, Because,

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Speaker 1: like I, I've heard great things about him. He's got

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Speaker 1: to be one of the few guys out there on

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Speaker 1: their practice field. Now who says, yeah, yeah, you're right

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Speaker 1: exactly what are you like? Oh yeah, this is great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Michigan native who's played here for the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years, I'm sure he's fine with that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What do you think who in the ANC East? Who

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Speaker 1: got the best? Who improved themselves the most with their

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Speaker 1: free agent talent acquisition? Free agency and the draft window

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01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: on the line with a thought on this window? Go ahead,

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Speaker 1: you're on the air with this. How you doing, John?

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Speaker 1: It's the turnament Thomas, Sir. I just want to say,

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Speaker 1: as born in the wool Buffalo Bills fan, you are

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Speaker 1: essentially the best running back to ever play football, and

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Speaker 1: I don't care what anybody else. Thank you, man, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. I also want to say, going off the question,

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Speaker 1: which was which NFC East teams made the best rush

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Speaker 1: to move. I would have to go with the Bills. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Jets made the most flash yet, but they really

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01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: only got two players of any note. And uh, you

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Speaker 1: know the excuse me, Dolphins got the worst quarterback in

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Speaker 1: all the football in mind. I don't know how anybody

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Speaker 1: could think Adams we're gonna do anything but lose again,

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Speaker 1: who's that fits a Rosen? Which one are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, here's something. Which one are you talking about? Wendell?

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Speaker 1: I would have to say, I can't know being a

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Speaker 1: Bill thing. I can't be bad because good that's the

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Speaker 1: right answer. So I would have to stay Rosen. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, how long before Fitz is starting down there

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Speaker 1: in Miami Therm? What do you think? Week one? Oh? Really?

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Speaker 1: Week one? Are you getting right out of the box?

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01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 1: Right out of the box. I guarantee he's gonna be

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01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 1: starting week one. We'll see call here from Glenn and

1473
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: New Fame. Hello, Glenn, you're on the air with us.

1474
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, and how are you guys? Great? Great? Um.

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01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 1: You guys were talking talking about the improvements the you know,

1476
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: the young quarterbacks in the division, and to me, since

1477
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: these teams are the ones we play the most at

1478
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: six games out of the year. To me, it's makes

1479
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 1: the Bills season even better, even more exciting to be

1480
01:12:55,920 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 1: going head to head with improved Dolphins, with improved Jets,

1481
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 1: and of course you got in New England there. I

1482
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 1: was wondering what you thought about that. The excitement of

1483
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 1: a game now against the Jet Um, to me, it

1484
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: just makes the season even more exciting. My second question

1485
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: before we move on from that one, Glen, because of

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01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, is that where you're getting the excitement from.

1487
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:21,560
Speaker 1: It is super exciting now to have, you know, the

1488
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:25,560
Speaker 1: better the opponent. To me, like other other fans have

1489
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: always talked about how you know, we've got the the

1490
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 1: toughest schedule and whatnot. To me, I always looked at

1491
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: that total opposite of everybody else. I looked at it

1492
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 1: as a real plus. It made it more exciting to

1493
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: me to have a real challenge for the Bills. Yeah,

1494
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, to have every game the Yeah, that much

1495
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: tougher would make a stronger team in the end. You know, Glenn,

1496
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 1: we got a taste of it. Um. I know you

1497
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: got another question, but I was really disappointed last year

1498
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: when the Bills first game against the Jets. I want

1499
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 1: to say mid November in the MetLife Stadium and neither

1500
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: Sam Donald nor Johnson Allen played in that game, and

1501
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 1: that I thought, man, he's got this is what we

1502
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: were waiting for our season. It really disappointed me because

1503
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 1: I think you're right, there is excitement when these quarterbacks

1504
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 1: from last year's draft class hook up and now throw

1505
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen in the mix. Right, don't get there? Oh yeah,

1506
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 1: I mean that was that was a Mett Barkley game, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1507
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 1: I think everybody was looking forward to it. Yeah, yeah,

1508
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 1: that was fine. It turned out fine with Barkley. But still,

1509
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: what would your other point that you wanted to make there?

1510
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: You guys touched on the Derek Anderson retirement. What's the

1511
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: possibility of him becoming some type of a coaching in turn,

1512
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 1: because he basically was a coach in uniform if you

1513
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: want to call it that, you know, clipboard man or whatever.

1514
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 1: What are the options? Who are our quarterback coaches on

1515
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:51,799
Speaker 1: the team and is it possible for him to become

1516
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: like an intern type? Well, Ken Dorsey is the quarterback coaching.

1517
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 1: He's got experiences that and he's got experienced at that

1518
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 1: experience playing in the league and I don't know that. Um,

1519
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 1: I don't know Derek Anderson well, but my sense from

1520
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: talking to him late last year, I think we hit

1521
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: me on the show a couple of times. I don't

1522
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: think he wants to uproot his family at this stage

1523
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 1: right that he does either, Sta, I didn't want to

1524
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: come here, and you know, blustery mate, min camp I

1525
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: asked you to. Had an opportunity to meet him at

1526
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: a couple of parties with Kyle Williams and uh, and

1527
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: you can see that. You know, he liked it here,

1528
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: but he was without his family, but he was out.

1529
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: He was without his family, and I met his wife

1530
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 1: that night, and you can tell he was like, yeah,

1531
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm ready to get home with my kids. Yeah, I'm

1532
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 1: ready to get home with my kids. And hey, that's understandable.

1533
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 1: I think though, if he does decide, if he does

1534
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: come back, he's not gonna come back at a quarterback coach.

1535
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 1: He's gonna come back as a player. Yeah. I think

1536
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 1: he'd probably make more money coming back and as a

1537
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 1: player than you do a coach. But I mean it's uh, Yeah,

1538
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 1: when I talked to him last year, you can tell

1539
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: he was happy to come here and to help out

1540
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: and get paid and to get paid, yeah, absolutely, but

1541
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 1: he was ready to be with his family and whatever

1542
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: decision that he made. Uh. And that was probably the

1543
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 1: reason why in term you can speak to this. Uh,

1544
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 1: there's a certain type of football person that makes an

1545
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 1: NFL coach and assistant coach. You have to be ready

1546
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 1: to sacrifice a lot in your life right to get

1547
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 1: those jobs. And you know, you had teammates who have

1548
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: done that Frank right, most notably now Bolts. But then

1549
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: Frank gave up a lot to spend the last gave

1550
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 1: up a lot and took a year off after he retired.

1551
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: You know what's coaching like high school high school football?

1552
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: I think, and ran a school to high school, ran

1553
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 1: a school. Yeah. And you know another guy that was

1554
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 1: up there, Alex van pel Ye, went through the same thing.

1555
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 1: I mean, and he's gonna be through several rights you

1556
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,759
Speaker 1: don't And just because you know, even like for an example, myself,

1557
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 1: just because I'm a Hall of Famer I played here

1558
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 1: or whatever. If I wanted to have an opportunity to

1559
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 1: coach over here, They're not just going to hand you

1560
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: a job the top job. You're gonna have to start

1561
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 1: pretty much from the bottom and work your way up.

1562
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's how it is. And I think, uh,

1563
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, and it was something that I did not

1564
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 1: want to do because if I did wanted to be

1565
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 1: a coach to the next day after I retired, I

1566
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: would have been calling folks to see, I want to

1567
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 1: come here and work here. I wouldn't have waited three

1568
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 1: or four years or whatever. You have to get right

1569
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: into it right away. And it does involve a lot

1570
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 1: of not seeing your family. Yeah, yeah, especially especially during

1571
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: the season. You give up a lot during the season

1572
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: because you're over there every single day on your off

1573
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 1: days and everything, the players off day. You're over here

1574
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 1: as a coach, over from eight in the morning probably

1575
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: to ten at night. I mean, I usedly remember Alex

1576
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 1: uses alexually say I was over here so much. I

1577
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 1: used to meet my kids in the parking lot to

1578
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 1: give him a kiss before they went to bed. Brooke

1579
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 1: bought him over here, yeah, and gave him a kiss,

1580
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: and then they went back home because he was still

1581
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 1: here doing his coaching thing. Yeah. Now I consider I

1582
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 1: think I'm kill to take credit for helping Alex transition.

1583
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 1: He did two years of radio with me. Remember he

1584
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, he he came on the radio, did

1585
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 1: call on the radio for two years. He was around

1586
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: the game, around the Bills. Yeah, and around it enough

1587
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 1: people who were they thought, let's give him a chance.

1588
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 1: He was quality control and the audit control. Yeah. And

1589
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 1: he became offensive coordinator here and what was at O nine?

1590
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 1: I think? Yeah, Um, and he's and look he works hard.

1591
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: He got caught up in the Aaron Rodgers mess kind

1592
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: of inday, Right, you saw the stuff this offseason with

1593
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Wasn't happier than being gone. Now he's Cincinnati

1594
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: survived to coaching change down there this year. Yeah, but

1595
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 1: that wasn't guaranteed either, you know, wasn't guaranteed. Yeah. It's tough.

1596
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: It is a tough it's a tough life, coaching life.

1597
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 1: We'll talk more about this. Which AFC East team made

1598
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: the best roster editions this offseason. We're talking more about

1599
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 1: the Bills in their rookie minicamp. Thurman Thomas is with

1600
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: us for a little while longer. Come on back One

1601
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive, presented by Collid of Health.

1602
01:18:49,160 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio on the back. One goes life.

1603
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas is in with this on uh this Friday afternoon.

1604
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 1: Great to have your them. Yeah, no problem, man, No,

1605
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 1: I'm not like, you know, like Steve, You're not. That's

1606
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: that's an asset, that's a that's a plus, right, just kidding.

1607
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 1: We met Steve, I do. I did say to our

1608
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: producer Jay Harris first time all week Stephen gone all

1609
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: gone all week, and I said, I miss Steve's energy.

1610
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 1: That's what I really miss. And his energy isn't. Oh yes,

1611
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 1: when he gets going, he gets going and yeah you

1612
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 1: just I've seen you a couple of times just sit

1613
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 1: there and go like this, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, just

1614
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 1: go right here, right, I gotta start smoking, Like, just

1615
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: got him go for a smoke when Steven gets off

1616
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 1: on one of his things. Uh, Thurman is here. The

1617
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 1: rookies are here. The rookie minicamp at the practice, the

1618
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: first one of the weekend is just wrapped up, and

1619
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 1: some of those rookies talking to the media as they

1620
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 1: came off the field, including first round draft pick and Oliver,

1621
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: the first round pick just two weeks ago from Houston.

1622
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 1: He met a gaggle of media members here in the

1623
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 1: field house just moments ago. Let's listen to what he said,

1624
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 1: Um to come out here. The first thing that shot

1625
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: me gonna walk outside a little chilly, but that's the

1626
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 1: why you get used to it. That was that was

1627
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: the only thing that probably hit me the most, other

1628
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 1: than that football. Football had fun out here competing with

1629
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,560
Speaker 1: the guys. After while, you get used to it, and

1630
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,839
Speaker 1: then it did what it is football. Were you excited

1631
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 1: last night though, knowing that this was coming, Yeah, it

1632
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: was kind of hard for me to go to sleep,

1633
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 1: but I had been up all day, so I was

1634
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 1: kind of tired, and uh just was my roommate Darrel.

1635
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 1: We just kind of chatted a little bit and then

1636
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 1: it was light side and we woke up early this morning,

1637
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 1: went through meetings and worked out this morning and kind

1638
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: of got to know everybody a little bit better. And

1639
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 1: because when out then played, was any part of it better?

1640
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,600
Speaker 1: Word overwhelming? You know, the new just seeing all this,

1641
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 1: all the new stuff that you gotta learn and do it. Uh,

1642
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 1: I mean, they ain't throw they ain't throw the whole

1643
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 1: book at as yet, so they kind of keeping it

1644
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: kind of simple for the next couple of days, some

1645
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 1: kind of easy stuffs for us to interpret it. And

1646
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 1: actually put from the class to the ground. So it

1647
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 1: ain't been that hard. Early. Kind of been talking to guys,

1648
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 1: telling each other out when we're paying. Um, it ain't

1649
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 1: been much really, but we're just talking amongst each other's

1650
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 1: and if I know something that he don't know, I

1651
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 1: tell him. He knows something that I don't know, he

1652
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: telling me. So we're just kind of building a little

1653
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 1: little family almost. But you even have to learn like

1654
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 1: the layout of the practice field right, like what's stationed,

1655
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 1: wh I'm going to next? Nah, I mean it was

1656
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 1: pretty self explanatory. They told us what's expected, told us

1657
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: would it be at, told us don't walk on the field,

1658
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 1: jog around and be a tenant. Uh, play with a

1659
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 1: little bit of juice And as has been, what are

1660
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: you looking to accomplished this weekend? Getting your feet wet here?

1661
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 1: Ay your first prow tiny Uh, that's it, just getting

1662
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:37,799
Speaker 1: my feet weight, competing, Um, just helping the team anyway

1663
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 1: I can. But uh, first off, just competing. How much

1664
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 1: of a whirlwind has this past couple of weeks spend,

1665
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, not only just with the draft leading up

1666
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 1: to the draft and now your year. Uh, it's been

1667
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 1: a whirlwind, like you said, But uh, now that I'm

1668
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: here and I'm at practice, I feel like I'm back

1669
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 1: in college while i'm at I'm at my destination. So

1670
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 1: it's been cool. Um, you had to go through it

1671
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 1: to get here, so I appreciate it time you roup

1672
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: here a suple years ago after I've probably been up

1673
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: here thirty six hours now. I had only been up

1674
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 1: here at twenty four. I probably been up here at

1675
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 1: thirty six. But uh, I really haven't been anywhere but

1676
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 1: from here to the hotel and back and here the

1677
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 1: time before that here and to the hotel. So I

1678
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 1: haven't learned much. I'm eager to try some wings. If

1679
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 1: anybody want to bring me some wings, I'm up for.

1680
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 1: Other than that, I haven't learned much. You meet with Poncho,

1681
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 1: What led into that? Your decision to go do that?

1682
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 1: And what was that meeting in the timeline? Um, well,

1683
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 1: I've seen after the draft that when they had called

1684
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 1: him and stuff like that, and then I start researching,

1685
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: like like who is he? What does he mean to

1686
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 1: the builds organization? I found out how much of a

1687
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 1: factor and how much the big party played and and uh,

1688
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,599
Speaker 1: and I got success and a fan base and things

1689
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 1: like that, and I heard what was wrong with him,

1690
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: So I had to go see him and meet him,

1691
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 1: meet meet him in the flag So I went out

1692
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 1: there he got He actually gave me one of his

1693
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 1: uh A wrist band off his wrist and I told him,

1694
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 1: a weird until until either break or I ain't gonna

1695
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: take it off or lose it, but weird it. I

1696
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: can't wear it no more, and hopefully he with me

1697
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 1: the whole time. It's one of the smallest NFL cities,

1698
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 1: But seeing a fan like that so far away from

1699
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: the Buffalo does it kind of give you a sense

1700
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: that Bills fans really or everywhere everywhere. They literally everywhere.

1701
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 1: And when we meet a Bills fan, I met a

1702
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 1: couple so far. They die hard, like they really die hard,

1703
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 1: and I really appreciate them. And I wouldn't want to

1704
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 1: be any place else besides here, because the fans are

1705
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 1: the most loyal fans I think I ever seen. You

1706
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:53,600
Speaker 1: mentioned that the coaches said they wanted to have a

1707
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: little bit of juice? Is it not all juice? Is it?

1708
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:58,600
Speaker 1: Is it hard for and Oliver to only have a

1709
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:00,600
Speaker 1: little bit of juice when he's on the man. I

1710
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 1: just go out there and compete to the best of

1711
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 1: my ability. Um, try to get the guys around me

1712
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 1: increase that level of like competing and stuff like that.

1713
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 1: So I just try to get everybody going and just

1714
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: compete in my bed level. Hey, when he dug into

1715
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 1: the playbook, could you start looking at Yeah, this is

1716
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 1: gonna be a good fit. Man. We talked about you

1717
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 1: being on the nose that used to this might be

1718
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 1: a better fit if you've gotten into the playbook and

1719
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 1: you're starting to see it. Um. I looked at a

1720
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 1: couple of plays and things like that and how they're

1721
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 1: gonna use me, and it's great I can say about it.

1722
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 1: I just want to come in and compete in and

1723
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 1: hopefully get on the field on Sundays and actually be

1724
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 1: able to be a part of it. There you go,

1725
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 1: and Oliver boy, what a great, great story about his

1726
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: visit with the Pacho Bia the philos fans stricken with

1727
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: cancers down there in Texas And Oliver just went over there,

1728
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 1: took a few pictures and now he's got a wrist

1729
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 1: man from Pacho Bia. Yes, that's a that's an unbelievable story.

1730
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 1: That that's what unbelievable. So I can remember now, um,

1731
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,759
Speaker 1: before the draft, I guess they had ad Stephen Johnson

1732
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 1: who called a second round pick, and he wanted to

1733
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: have Puncher do it. Yeah, obviously he couldn't do it. Yeah,

1734
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 1: he got in the hospital. So now it's uh, you know,

1735
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 1: he's been a big part of the community, a big

1736
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 1: part of Bill's mafia, you know. And uh so I

1737
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 1: think when everybody does get a chance to meet him

1738
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 1: and see him, they do it. And I think, you know,

1739
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,640
Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving game, you know, hopefully he'll be here and

1740
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:29,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure Bills mafia will rally around him for the

1741
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving game down in Dallas against the Cowboys. And Oliver says,

1742
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 1: I've been here thirty six hours. Ever seen much the city? No, right,

1743
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 1: they go. They kind of sounded like the Willis mcgahey plan,

1744
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 1: I go to the hotel and I go to the

1745
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 1: State I seen years ago. He would have said, yeah,

1746
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: I went to the Big Tree. He would have said that, right.

1747
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:50,560
Speaker 1: We would have made him, yeah, well, we don't know,

1748
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 1: we don't know where are you gonna go. We're gonna

1749
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,719
Speaker 1: go to the Big Tree, Big Tree, Big Tree and hotel.

1750
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas here for the Big Tree, Right, are you

1751
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 1: still one on the planner and then we're gonna take

1752
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 1: a break. Thurman and I coming back with more. One

1753
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1754
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: Welcome Back One Bill's Live. John Murphy with Thurman Thomas,

1755
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame running back Thurman Thomas in studio with

1756
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 1: us for a couple of more minutes. Chris Brown. We

1757
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 1: hope to get him to rejoin now that, uh, the

1758
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 1: minicamp practice is over. They'll be doing it again tomorrow

1759
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 1: and again on other clones of Chris Brown. No, why

1760
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 1: he's all everywhere, he's over. He's good. Coming to him.

1761
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 1: Is sad they're all over? They are sometimes with Brownie,

1762
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 1: I wonder, Um. I think, well, he's a soccer fan.

1763
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 1: We talked about that like kissing, right, but I think

1764
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: he spends most of his life kind of reading and

1765
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: researching football stuff every Yeah, and I guess I do.

1766
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's my job too, but he I don't

1767
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 1: know if he does anything but play soccer, coach soccer,

1768
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 1: and follow the NFL, which is good. That's what we

1769
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 1: need here. He's good. Ronnie's great. He's good at it. Yeah,

1770
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:00,560
Speaker 1: he really is. Hey, Uh, mini camp practice for the

1771
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: rookies is broken up. We heard from Ed Oliver a

1772
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 1: moment ago. Now the second non pick offensive lineman Cody Ford.

1773
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: He talked to the media moments ago inside the ad

1774
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 1: Pro Sports Training Center. I feel playing with a new

1775
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 1: group of guys. I can't I can't wait to work

1776
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 1: with every day. Uh. And just I'm just excited to

1777
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: be here. You know, this is this has been a

1778
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,560
Speaker 1: long time coming, and I'm ready to see what this

1779
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 1: team can do. Yeah, how did it feel? Um? You

1780
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:29,640
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about starting off at right tackle. I

1781
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 1: know you're not out here with the veterans yet, but

1782
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 1: is that where you're feeling pretty comfortable? I mean yeah,

1783
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,640
Speaker 1: I mean that's it. Wasn't that my decision? You know,

1784
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 1: That's what the coach and staff wanted to see me yet.

1785
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna challenge them or anything by any means.

1786
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 1: You know, I'm here to play whatever I need to

1787
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 1: play to help the team win. What's your goal by

1788
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 1: the end of this rookie mini camp? What would you

1789
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 1: like to have accomplished or done or feel good about?

1790
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 1: For Number one is just learning, learning the system. I'm

1791
01:27:56,400 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: proving myself, you know, getting better every day. Things like that.

1792
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: Nothing too personal, nothing too I guess you say, like

1793
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 1: as far as my playing time or anything like that.

1794
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just here right now the learning system

1795
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 1: and get better these day and help the team. Is

1796
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 1: there a danger of maybe even getting too far ahead

1797
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: of yourself sometimes in the situation where you just have

1798
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 1: to kind of stay with him what you're trying to

1799
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 1: do and know that the season's not starting tomorrow. You

1800
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,719
Speaker 1: still have several months. Yeah, exactly. I mean at this moment,

1801
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 1: everybody's here. They're at the same level as I am,

1802
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 1: So it's not like anybody here has an advantage over

1803
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 1: over the next person. So we're all starting at the

1804
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 1: same base level and we're all we're all here just

1805
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 1: just trying to get an opportunity. Cody Ford, Buffalo second

1806
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 1: round picked the offensive linement from Oklahoma, so he'll probably

1807
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 1: be the last one I meet because he's from Oklahoma.

1808
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 1: What do you think those guys getting through practice this week?

1809
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: They'll leave here Sunday or Monday or sometime next week

1810
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 1: and probably think, Okay, that's my first taste of the NFL.

1811
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 1: When they come back they start practicing with veterans real

1812
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 1: NFL play, that would kind of be an eye opener.

1813
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and then you'd be like, Okay, time to

1814
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 1: turn it up a notch. I mean, because you got

1815
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 1: the veterans here. They know what to do, They notice system,

1816
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 1: they know what to do every single day where the

1817
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:13,720
Speaker 1: meeting rooms are what the coach is talking about more

1818
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 1: than all these rookies that are in here right now.

1819
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 1: So it'll be another eye opener for them once the

1820
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 1: veterans coming along. Hey, Thurman, we've enjoyed having in here today.

1821
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 1: Thank you. We gotta get you in here more often.

1822
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Man. Yeah, you're around a lot. I'm around. Yeah,

1823
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 1: I know what happened around the Thurman and the grocery

1824
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 1: store on Archerd Park about he said, how can you

1825
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 1: guys never call me? And I was like, I don't know.

1826
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 1: Why don't we ever get thurmin? Yeah, I'm here, I know, Yeah,

1827
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't go. People have been texting me you go

1828
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 1: to Florida all the time. I know, I don't. Okay, No,

1829
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 1: I really don't. I'm here doing a football season, doing

1830
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 1: the draft. I mean, I did some stuff for the

1831
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 1: Bills on Draft Day. I mean, so, yeah, I'm around. Okay,

1832
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 1: what my friends talking about We'll get you back in here.

1833
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:52,640
Speaker 1: Thanks man, Yeah, no problem, bro. During time, it's Hall

1834
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 1: of Fame running back. We got another hour to go,

1835
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:56,600
Speaker 1: Come on back. One Bill's Life presented by Kalid to

1836
01:29:56,640 --> 01:30:10,679
Speaker 1: Health from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio, Hello

1837
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 1: Hills Radio Network Stories. Date Day comes from One Bill's Drive,

1838
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 1: where the Buffalo Bills have wrapped up Day one of

1839
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 1: their weekend rookie Minicamp just ended a little while ago.

1840
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 1: Fifty four players in town for the Rookie Minicamp, draft

1841
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 1: picks on drafteds, players on tryout. They'll beyond the field

1842
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 1: again tomorrow. Lots of meeting time for them as well,

1843
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 1: and a lot of orientation for all of these brand

1844
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 1: new players. Late yesterday, the Bills signed seven of their

1845
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 1: draft picks. Still unsigned. His third round pick, time end

1846
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox from Old Miss. But he is here. I

1847
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 1: stand correct and on that he is here, and we'll

1848
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:42,560
Speaker 1: hear from him in a moment or two. But the

1849
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 1: other seven picks are all signed, including first round draft

1850
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 1: pick Ed Oliver, second rounder Cody Ford, third round pick

1851
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:51,639
Speaker 1: running back Devin Singletary, fifth rounder of Shawan Joseph, sixth

1852
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 1: rounder Jaquan Johnson, seventh round picks Terrell Johnson and Tommy Sweeney.

1853
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 1: All of them signed their contracts and were involved in

1854
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 1: today's Rookie Weekend Minicamp. Eight undrafted rookies out there as well,

1855
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,759
Speaker 1: along with some players in on a trial. The undrafted

1856
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 1: rookies include a couple of ub products, quarterback Tyree Jackson

1857
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 1: and cornerback Cam Lewis. Will hear from Jackson in the

1858
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 1: next couple of minutes here on the show. Also involved

1859
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: in today's Rookie Minicamp undrafted undrafted free agent wide receiver

1860
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 1: David Sills from West Virginia, kicker Chase McLaughlin from Illinois,

1861
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 1: offensive lineman Blake Hants from Northwestern, linebackers Tyrold Dotson and

1862
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 1: Jowan Foggy, and wide receiver Nick Easley from Iowa, all

1863
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 1: of them here for the Rookie Weekend Minicamp. Veteran quarterback

1864
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson has called it quits. He informed the Bills

1865
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 1: yesterday that he is going to retire again. He came

1866
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 1: out of retirement to help the Bills, who were in

1867
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 1: desperate need of a quarterback last fall. Now Anderson stepping

1868
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 1: aside for good after fourteen seasons in the NFL. He

1869
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 1: will be a thirty six years old next month. Derek

1870
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 1: Anderson to Alex two retire from the NFL. Kyler Murray

1871
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:57,719
Speaker 1: first overall picking the draft is now where the Arizona

1872
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 1: Cardinals signed his contract yesterday. The Doll's made young cornerback

1873
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 1: Xavian Howard, the NFL's highest paid corner a five year

1874
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 1: deal with forty six million guaranteed. Seventy six point five

1875
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 1: million dollars in that deal. That's the update from One

1876
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 1: Bill Drive. Welcome back. I'm John Murphy, Steve is on vacation.

1877
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Bills insider from Buffalo Bills dot Com, going

1878
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:18,759
Speaker 1: to rejoin us. He's been out covering the rookie weekend

1879
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 1: minicamp practice. He'll tell us what he saw out there

1880
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about some of the comments from some

1881
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 1: of the players post practice. Again, we thanked Thurman Thomas

1882
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Speaker 1: who came in and pitched in for about an hour

1883
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Speaker 1: and a half. Did the great job talking about a

1884
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 1: variety of topics, including our topic of the day. We

1885
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:37,600
Speaker 1: continue to talk about that. So the Bills had a

1886
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,560
Speaker 1: pretty good offseason. We are all in agreement on that.

1887
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Speaker 1: But in the AFC East we're wondering from you, which

1888
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:46,599
Speaker 1: AFC East team had the best personnel edition during the offseason?

1889
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 1: What do you think? Give us a call eight h

1890
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Speaker 1: three h five fifty and toll free one eight eight

1891
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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. Which AFC East team

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01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 1: made the best roster editions this offseason? Yes, there have

1893
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 1: been some eliminations from the roster as well, but who

1894
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 1: made the additions? On the Twitter poll with almost fifteen

1895
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 1: hundred votes in the Bills, eighty eight percent say the

1896
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 1: Bills made the best roster editions, seven percent say the Jets,

1897
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:12,759
Speaker 1: three percent say the Patriots, two percent say the Dolphins.

1898
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 1: What do you think? Give us a call? Phone lines

1899
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Speaker 1: open eight oh three oh five fifty twelve three one

1900
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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Chris Brown

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01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:22,720
Speaker 1: Bills inside or Buffalo Bills dot Com in studio with

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Speaker 1: us now just coming off the field the sidelines, Chris,

1903
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 1: I thought, I want you to comment on our Twitter

1904
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 1: poll if you would. I thought it would be a

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01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 1: little closer than that. I gave our audience credit knowing

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01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 1: that the Jets especially had a pretty there's too much

1907
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 1: hatred for the other teams. Am I naive here? Yeah.

1908
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 1: I thought people could maybe think a little clearly and say, well,

1909
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 1: I like our picks. I like what we did in

1910
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 1: for agency. But the Jets they added some big names.

1911
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 1: It's all about allegiance Murph. Well that's you gotta get

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Speaker 1: away from that and talk intelligently a little bit. Really, No, well,

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Speaker 1: how would you vote? Don't you think the Jets made

1914
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 1: some big moves. Yeah, I love the Bills moves. The

1915
01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 1: Jets made big moves, though, I'm wondering how the Levion

1916
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:05,759
Speaker 1: Bell edition is going to go. I know, I'm because

1917
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 1: I don't see him being as productive as he was

1918
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh because he's not running behind as good a line.

1919
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 1: He's not playing with as feared a quarterback, at least

1920
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 1: not yet in his career, as maybe Roethlisberger is, especially

1921
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:25,560
Speaker 1: with the deep ball. So I think that can be

1922
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 1: quantified to some degree. And then yeah, they they shelled

1923
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 1: out a boatload of money for Mosley and I understand that.

1924
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 1: And they got a nice slot receiver in the Crowder

1925
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:40,400
Speaker 1: Kid from Washington, and those are all good ads. But

1926
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:44,639
Speaker 1: I think when you're a Bills fan at your core,

1927
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 1: and then you're happy with a lot of the additions,

1928
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 1: that your team made and you know intimately what they

1929
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 1: mean for your team. You're gonna probably side with the

1930
01:34:55,040 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 1: home squad. That's what they've done. First rookie minik weekend

1931
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:04,639
Speaker 1: workout is complete, and Thurmant and I were talking about this. Chris, Yeah,

1932
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Speaker 1: where's Thurmant? What the hell happened? Thurmant has places to go? Oh,

1933
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 1: they have to get a kreller or something. What happened?

1934
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:16,160
Speaker 1: He does? Listen, Chris, what possibly could the Bills get

1935
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:18,640
Speaker 1: done on the field. Look, I know there's orientation going on,

1936
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 1: there's meetings, there's all kinds of things happening. But on

1937
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 1: the field today for ninety minutes, what possibly could the

1938
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 1: Bills have accomplished with that group of fifty four who

1939
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 1: never met each other until twelve hours ago. Yeah, I

1940
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 1: think it's the blend. It's trying to start to blend

1941
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 1: some of these elements together. And granted, the roles they're

1942
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 1: occupying this weekend in rookie Mini Camp aren't going to

1943
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 1: be the same roles that a lot of them occupy

1944
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:42,719
Speaker 1: once they get to OTA's and Mini Camp and beyond,

1945
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 1: at least as rookies. But I think they're trying to

1946
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 1: indoctrinate them into the way they operate on a daily basis,

1947
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:54,839
Speaker 1: and then secondarily into the offense or the defense, depending

1948
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 1: on which side of the ball they lie to get

1949
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: a handle on how this scheme runs, you know, depending

1950
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 1: on which side of the ball they're on. I mean,

1951
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I was talking to Tommy Sweeney coming off

1952
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 1: the field because he had a nice day to day.

1953
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 1: Tyree Jackson found him a few times today in the

1954
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 1: scope of the offense during team segments. He also found

1955
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox a couple of times too. The tight ends

1956
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:23,599
Speaker 1: were a pretty big part of today's passing game, maybe

1957
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 1: even more so than the outside receivers, so it was

1958
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 1: interesting to see that unfold at such an early stage.

1959
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 1: I was joking with Tommy Sweeney coming off the fields,

1960
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 1: did you buy Tyree Jackson dinner last night? I see

1961
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 1: he was finding him and awful lot out there today,

1962
01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, it just kind of worked out

1963
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:41,679
Speaker 1: that way. But it's interesting because he and Dawson Knox

1964
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 1: are already working off of one another in the practice setting.

1965
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 1: If Knox has this rep and Sweeney's taken the mental

1966
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 1: rep that you watch, Knox will come off the field

1967
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:54,639
Speaker 1: after the play and he and Sweeney will start talking

1968
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 1: to each other, what did you see? What were you

1969
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 1: doing there? Blah blah blah. I mean they're all ready

1970
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:01,719
Speaker 1: in that kind of frame of mind to take advantage

1971
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:03,799
Speaker 1: of every rep, even if they're not the one physically

1972
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:06,800
Speaker 1: repping it out on the field. So that's encouraging to see,

1973
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:08,640
Speaker 1: all right, I was wrong earlier in the show, and

1974
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm staying corrected. Dawson Knox unsigned. I figured he would

1975
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 1: not practice and might not even be here, but he

1976
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 1: is here and he did practice. Yeah, he can do

1977
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 1: rookie manning camp. I don't think. I think training camps

1978
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 1: the issue, isn't it. Yeah, I think that's when the

1979
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 1: issue crops up. And I made a mistake also when

1980
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 1: I was on with you earlier. Blake Hants is an

1981
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,559
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. I don't know why I had him as

1982
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 1: a mental block as an interior alignment. He was an

1983
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 1: offensive tackle his whole career at Northwestern, and he lined

1984
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 1: up at left tackle today. So my apologies for misleading

1985
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 1: to fans on that one. He is. He is an

1986
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 1: outside offensive lineman. He's an edgy guy. So they run place.

1987
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 1: So what did they hold up the card and run

1988
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:48,640
Speaker 1: place right. Yeah, they went through individual and then they

1989
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:52,559
Speaker 1: split into two different groups for some of the team

1990
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 1: related stuff. Initially it was offense on offense, so they

1991
01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 1: had tryout layers who are on the offensive side of

1992
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 1: the ball line up as defensive players and they were

1993
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 1: holding up cards for those guys, and the defense was

1994
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:10,640
Speaker 1: doing the same thing. On the other field, they had

1995
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 1: guys lining up as offensive linemen and they were holding

1996
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 1: up cards for them, etc. Etc. And then they jumped

1997
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,599
Speaker 1: into team segments where it was truly offense against defense

1998
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:23,719
Speaker 1: and they were executing plays. Yeah, at a pretty good tempo,

1999
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:25,959
Speaker 1: I would say for guys that just got the playbook,

2000
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 1: you know, yesterday and went through meetings this morning, you know,

2001
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 1: there was some stuff that was a little ragged, you know,

2002
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:34,560
Speaker 1: back in the huddle and call it again. You know,

2003
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 1: there was some of that, but you expect that with

2004
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 1: rookies and tryout players. I mean, they have more tryout

2005
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:41,680
Speaker 1: players here than they have undrafted I mean they have

2006
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 1: sixteen drafted and undrafted guys. They have Duke Williams and

2007
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 1: Christian Way the international player out there today, and then

2008
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 1: thirty six tryout players. So it was expected to be

2009
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:55,680
Speaker 1: a little ragged, but I think all things considered, it

2010
01:38:55,800 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 1: ran relatively smooth. With Chris Brown, we'd recapping today's key

2011
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 1: minicamp practice. Simple question to get going deep into this, Chris,

2012
01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 1: any standouts? Anybody jump out at? Well? I mean ed

2013
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 1: Oliver was toying with some of and granted he's going

2014
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 1: against tryout players for the most part. Today, I mean

2015
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 1: he used his swim move the whole day and it

2016
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 1: worked every time. I mean he didn't even have to

2017
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:22,599
Speaker 1: go into the full repertoire, and he embarrassed some people.

2018
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:25,439
Speaker 1: It was it was not good if you were lined

2019
01:39:25,479 --> 01:39:27,559
Speaker 1: up against Ed Oliver. It was not good today. There

2020
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 1: was one play that on his initial punch he turned

2021
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:37,400
Speaker 1: the guy completely sideways off the snap, and then on

2022
01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 1: his second punch he completely turned the guy around one

2023
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty degrees. So in two quick punches he

2024
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:48,600
Speaker 1: had the offensive lineman facing his quarterback. It was impressive.

2025
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,600
Speaker 1: And then he basically just puts his left hand on

2026
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 1: the right shoulder of the offensive lineman and then swim

2027
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 1: He's swimming over the guy like that and he's in

2028
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 1: the backfield. So now these are non contact drills, but

2029
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:05,800
Speaker 1: you can see, yeah, you can see it, and you know,

2030
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:08,839
Speaker 1: maybe it's more difficult because they can't be that physical

2031
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:11,759
Speaker 1: for the offensive lineman to really sit down and punch

2032
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 1: and you know, do it like they normally would. So

2033
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 1: maybe the advantage is to the defensive lineman who have

2034
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 1: more space to operate guy's arm truly getting into their chest. Um,

2035
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:26,640
Speaker 1: he's fast. He's just really quick and fast. Um. I

2036
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:30,599
Speaker 1: liked some of Darryl Johnson's outside moves. He's I think

2037
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 1: his length is going to help him a lot. So

2038
01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:39,040
Speaker 1: he so when he kind of bends that corner, you know,

2039
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 1: he's not super fast, but it's very hard for offensive

2040
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:45,800
Speaker 1: lineman to get their hands up in on his chest

2041
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:49,879
Speaker 1: and ride him out. So he can kind of widen

2042
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 1: and you know, keep his feet away and he keeps

2043
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 1: his chest from being reached, you know by the offensive

2044
01:40:57,120 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 1: lineman because he is so long with those arms and

2045
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 1: then his frames long on top of that. So he

2046
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 1: got around the corner a few times as well. So

2047
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:08,200
Speaker 1: those two guys looked good up front. I have to

2048
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 1: say I didn't look at Cody Ford a whole lot.

2049
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 1: Get most of his work at right tackle. Then did

2050
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 1: it appear, Yeah, most of his work at right tackle.

2051
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 1: I was trying to In these kinds of settings, I

2052
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 1: tend to gravitate more to the skill position players because

2053
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 1: what they can do is more reminiscent of real football,

2054
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:28,439
Speaker 1: even out of pads. So I try to drift towards

2055
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 1: the dbs, the receivers, the tight ends, the linebackers, see

2056
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 1: how they move in space, those kinds of things. I

2057
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 1: thought Sweeney had a nice day today. He really did well.

2058
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:45,600
Speaker 1: Knox had a couple of drops, concentration type things, but

2059
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 1: he also made a couple of plays to His play

2060
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:50,839
Speaker 1: was a little bit more inconsistent than Sweeney's today. Sweeney

2061
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:53,240
Speaker 1: can run better than I thought he could. It's hard

2062
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 1: something that's hard for me sometimes to determine on tape,

2063
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:00,840
Speaker 1: you know, how well is this guy really moving? I

2064
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 1: need to see it in person to get a better

2065
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 1: feel for it. But Sweeney runs better than I thought

2066
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:09,040
Speaker 1: he did. Um And granted the pads aren't on right

2067
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 1: now and maybe that'll compromise things. But for today, I

2068
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:15,519
Speaker 1: thought he moved rather well. And he's long. He's a

2069
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:18,920
Speaker 1: long strider too, so he can cover ground even when

2070
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 1: he doesn't look like he's moving very well. I liked

2071
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,919
Speaker 1: what I saw from Duke Williams. There was an attitude

2072
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 1: today even in spec. They were doing special teams to start, Yeah,

2073
01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:32,280
Speaker 1: and so they're locking up. You know, you're trying to

2074
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 1: lock up your block. You know, you're playing on return team,

2075
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 1: so it's on punt and you're trying to lock your

2076
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:40,880
Speaker 1: guy up, you know, to prevent him a free release

2077
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:42,640
Speaker 1: so he can get down the field and go make

2078
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 1: a tackle. You're trying to hold that block as long

2079
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:48,960
Speaker 1: as you can. And there were some spirited one on

2080
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:53,080
Speaker 1: ones going on, and he was standing this one guy

2081
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:55,120
Speaker 1: up and riding him, riding them, riding them, riding them

2082
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 1: down the field. And then the guy was trying to

2083
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:58,479
Speaker 1: get away from him and he's you know, they were

2084
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:00,640
Speaker 1: it was it was getting a little intense there, and

2085
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 1: he just kind of stared at him, you know, after

2086
01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:06,519
Speaker 1: the play was over. He's just turned twenty seven, so

2087
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:09,240
Speaker 1: he's got two years on some of these guys five years, right,

2088
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:13,439
Speaker 1: you say twenty seven if he's young or no. No,

2089
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 1: I don't either. No, I mean there are not too

2090
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:17,639
Speaker 1: many twenty seven year olds in a rookie Mini Cama.

2091
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:21,160
Speaker 1: So I talked to him after practice too. He knows

2092
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Speaker 1: this is his last kick at the cat and he

2093
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:25,720
Speaker 1: is taking it as serious as a heart attack. And

2094
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 1: you saw it on the field today. He is not

2095
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 1: backing down on any single rep. I'm coming out here.

2096
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:32,599
Speaker 1: I'm going to be aggressive. I'm going to be physical,

2097
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:35,719
Speaker 1: you know, he said. But through all of that number

2098
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 1: one thing, I'm going to be his humble I think

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Speaker 1: he and coach McDermot addressed in his press conference today

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01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:44,600
Speaker 1: he sees a self awareness about Duke Williams that is

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Speaker 1: different from the stuff that kind of got him in

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01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:49,799
Speaker 1: trouble when he was down at Auburn. He has grown,

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01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 1: he said, you know, I've been away from home for

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Speaker 1: two years in the CFL and it has helped me

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Speaker 1: become a man. And that's going to be important here.

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Speaker 1: And I asked him, I said, so have you indoctrinated

2107
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Speaker 1: yourself into respecting the process here? He goes, Oh, Coach McDermott, serious,

2108
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:10,000
Speaker 1: He goes, He's a serious guy. That's his initial impression.

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Speaker 1: He's a serious guy. I said, how so he goes, Well,

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01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:16,719
Speaker 1: he goes, It's clear to me that on every play

2111
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 1: I have no matter what I'm doing, I've got to finish.

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Speaker 1: He goes, I was watching my practice tape the other day.

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Speaker 1: He goes, there were a couple of plays where I

2114
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:27,679
Speaker 1: was finishing, but I wasn't finishing at top speed, he said,

2115
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 1: And I'm watching other guys finish a little bit harder

2116
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 1: than I did. So I said, okay, that's that mental note.

2117
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 1: I gotta finish harder, finish hard on every play, whether

2118
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm catching a ball, whether I'm out here on the

2119
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 1: other side of the play, I'm going to look for

2120
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 1: a block, I'm doing something because I gotta finish on

2121
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 1: every play, because that's what coach expects. I'm want to

2122
01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:44,920
Speaker 1: ask you. We're with Chris Brown. By the way, he

2123
01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:46,559
Speaker 1: got a good look at You can tell he got

2124
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:49,680
Speaker 1: a good look at the today's well rookie minicamp. I

2125
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 1: try to pay attention. You come in here with no

2126
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:53,639
Speaker 1: notes too, which is amazing to me. Well, I jotted

2127
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 1: them all down on paper, and I gotta tell you, well, Murph,

2128
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:58,400
Speaker 1: you know this when you and this might be old school,

2129
01:44:58,479 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 1: but you and I are both old school. Let's be

2130
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:02,280
Speaker 1: But when you write it down, you retain it better,

2131
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 1: do you not? I do. That's why I have to

2132
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 1: write it down paper on my desk. So that's why

2133
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:07,519
Speaker 1: you know I wrote it all down. I kind of

2134
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 1: looked at it before I came over here. It's amazing.

2135
01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 1: Chris Brown. Thurman was paying you a compliment too, by

2136
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 1: the way, Oh he was. Well, now I feel bad

2137
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:17,040
Speaker 1: about my Crowler shot. Chris Brown is everywhere he's and

2138
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 1: I agree he is. Chris Brown is with a spill

2139
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 1: since had a Buffalo Bills dot Com just off the

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01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 1: sidelines watching day one of the Rookie Minicamp. Back to

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Speaker 1: receivers for a moment. David Sills from West Virginia, undrafted

2142
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:31,639
Speaker 1: rookie free agent. Interesting backstory that coach McDermott talked about today.

2143
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 1: But with his size, he's a guy who's gonna get

2144
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:36,720
Speaker 1: some attention. I would think, Yeah, it's interesting because he's

2145
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:39,439
Speaker 1: pretty narrow framed, right he I you know, and this

2146
01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:41,680
Speaker 1: is again, you know you hear scouts always say, well,

2147
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 1: I want to get you. Remember what Buddy Knicks did,

2148
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:45,280
Speaker 1: I want to smell the breath. You know, this is

2149
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 1: what he means. You Really, it makes a difference when

2150
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 1: you see them in person. It truly does. Six three

2151
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:52,400
Speaker 1: two eleven. For David Sills, Yeah, he can look totally

2152
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:54,519
Speaker 1: different from the guy on the other side of the field.

2153
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 1: Who's six three, two eleven. That's that's right. Yeah, yeah,

2154
01:45:56,840 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 1: that's why you need. So he's narrow framed, so he's

2155
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 1: not gonna you know, but the calling card on him

2156
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:08,400
Speaker 1: is great in contested catch situations. So looking at his body,

2157
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, wow, really, you know, but thirty three touchdowns

2158
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:14,800
Speaker 1: in two years. I mean, that's nothing to sneeze at. Now.

2159
01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 1: Some people knock it and say, well, he played in

2160
01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 1: the Big twelve where defenses go to die. All right, maybe,

2161
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 1: but eighteen touchdowns is still eighteen touchdowns. Thirty three touchdowns

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01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:27,599
Speaker 1: in two years. And I was talking to him after

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01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 1: practice and he said, you know, I said, how did

2164
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:33,840
Speaker 1: you trans first year as a wide receiver. You're doing

2165
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 1: it at the major college level and you have eighteen

2166
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 1: touchdown I said, how does that? He said, well, he goes,

2167
01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:42,559
Speaker 1: I set a goal. He said, my goal was ten.

2168
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 1: I said, you almost doubled it, and he kind of laughed.

2169
01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:48,640
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, he goes yeah. I said, how much

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Speaker 1: did playing quarterback kind of help you with route concepts

2171
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 1: and sight adjustments and all of those things? And he

2172
01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:58,720
Speaker 1: said it did help me. He said, I think it

2173
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:02,439
Speaker 1: did help me a lot. You know, I worked on it,

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01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:05,400
Speaker 1: you know, he said, as soon as I made peace

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01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 1: with my life as a quarterback is over, he said,

2176
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:09,720
Speaker 1: I was all in. I was all in. He goes.

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Speaker 1: I was at West Virginia in March, you know, before

2178
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:17,760
Speaker 1: spring ball even started working on routes with my receiver's

2179
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:21,479
Speaker 1: coach and working on all of those things to make

2180
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:24,880
Speaker 1: it work, you know. And I said, you've kind an

2181
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:27,920
Speaker 1: awfully weird path though to the NFL. And he said, yeah,

2182
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:29,920
Speaker 1: I do, he said, but I got my foot in

2183
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:31,479
Speaker 1: the door now and now I'm doing whatever I can

2184
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 1: to keep it over. Is that why he left West

2185
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 1: Virginia went to JUCO because he could had not he

2186
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:41,439
Speaker 1: had not made peace with exhausting all options at quarterback.

2187
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:44,040
Speaker 1: So he went to JUCO hoping to get another Del

2188
01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:47,840
Speaker 1: Camino Junior College in LA to try his hand one

2189
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 1: more time at quarterback. And it's really a sad story

2190
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 1: because in high school his hand was injured when it

2191
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:57,560
Speaker 1: got hit by a helmet in a very rough and

2192
01:47:57,680 --> 01:48:00,280
Speaker 1: tumble game that he played in high schoo It was

2193
01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 1: so rough, like his mom was like, we gotta get

2194
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:03,960
Speaker 1: him out of the game. He's gonna get hurt. And sure,

2195
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:07,880
Speaker 1: enough he did. He bashed his hand pretty bad and

2196
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:11,680
Speaker 1: he played through the hand injury. But the problem was

2197
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:15,559
Speaker 1: it developed a hitch in his delivery and it slowed

2198
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 1: it down and it made he does something. He did

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01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 1: something with his wrist, and despite countless hours, months of

2200
01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 1: trying to get back to his free release that made

2201
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:31,840
Speaker 1: him such an attractive quarterback prospect, he could not fix it.

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01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 1: And it changed it to the point where he could

2203
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:37,479
Speaker 1: not play the quarterback position at major college football anymore,

2204
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 1: let alone in the NFL. And even after trying it

2205
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:42,960
Speaker 1: at El Camino Junior College, it just did not work.

2206
01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:46,040
Speaker 1: And at that point in time, he kind of made

2207
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 1: peace with it and said, you know, I'm gonna play.

2208
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play receiver. And even his junior college coach

2209
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 1: told him, he said, look, he said, do you want

2210
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:57,599
Speaker 1: to play quarterback or do you want to play on Sundays?

2211
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 1: And he said that kind of opened my eyes, yeah,

2212
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 1: and said, you know, made me realize my goal is

2213
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 1: to play in the NFL. Who the hell cares if

2214
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 1: I have to do it as a receiver. I want

2215
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 1: to get there. Yeah, and so here he is now.

2216
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:10,320
Speaker 1: So but it's it's got to be one of the

2217
01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:12,160
Speaker 1: weirdest paths to the NFL you've ever heard. You know,

2218
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:14,160
Speaker 1: it's funny watching some of them. We'll have coverage of

2219
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:16,280
Speaker 1: that on Buffalo bills dot Com in due time. Watching

2220
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:19,759
Speaker 1: some of the Sills highlights on the MSG video side,

2221
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:22,400
Speaker 1: it got me thinking, man, that's Will Greer throw. Those

2222
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:25,720
Speaker 1: are some nice passes from Will Greer was a transfer Carolina, Right,

2223
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 1: Panthers got him right. He throws a nice ball. Yeah,

2224
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 1: he does know, he throws a pretty ball. He was

2225
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:34,160
Speaker 1: one of the highest graded high school quarterback prospects. I

2226
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 1: think he started at Florida and then transferred to West

2227
01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:38,120
Speaker 1: Virginia because he couldn't get on the field of Florida,

2228
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 1: so he transferred. Dana Holgerson's like, yeah, come on up, Yeah,

2229
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:43,559
Speaker 1: you know some great passes. Hey, we're talking about Chris

2230
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 1: bound a couple of minutes stuft with Chris talking about

2231
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:48,000
Speaker 1: the Bills Rocky Minicamp Day one. Yes, we are drawing

2232
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:50,920
Speaker 1: huge conclusions based on one practice, but that's okay, that's all.

2233
01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:54,840
Speaker 1: We have the third round draft pick, the running back motor,

2234
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:56,880
Speaker 1: singletary motor. How did he look? What did you think

2235
01:49:56,880 --> 01:50:00,439
Speaker 1: did Yeah? I mean he's he's slippery. He's slippery on

2236
01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:03,760
Speaker 1: the inside runs, especially like you. And granted this is

2237
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 1: tag off. You know, you're not sticking a guy up

2238
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 1: in the gap, you know, linebackers not filling the hole

2239
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 1: and cracking him. Um. But there was a lot of

2240
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:16,840
Speaker 1: traffic in around the line there, and all of a

2241
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:19,479
Speaker 1: sudden he disappears because he's so you can't see him

2242
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:21,000
Speaker 1: from the sideline. And then all of a sudden he's

2243
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:22,880
Speaker 1: in the secondary. He got he got through somehow, he

2244
01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 1: found a crack, got through and there he goes. UM,

2245
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 1: very built, very low to the ground as we expected.

2246
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 1: You know, he's only five seven um, but he is.

2247
01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:37,479
Speaker 1: He's shifty like he can. He's got wiggled to him

2248
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:41,160
Speaker 1: and it's just very hard to get hands on him.

2249
01:50:41,680 --> 01:50:44,800
Speaker 1: And that's what makes him so dynamic as a back

2250
01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 1: and held. You know, we just talked to him after practice,

2251
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:51,439
Speaker 1: very chill, you know, first days, just kind of taking

2252
01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:54,519
Speaker 1: it all in. You can see, but you could tell

2253
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:56,639
Speaker 1: it's it's not too big for him at all. He's

2254
01:50:57,000 --> 01:51:00,680
Speaker 1: he's very comfortable in his skin where he is right now. UM.

2255
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Speaker 1: I'm curious about the Tyree Jackson six foot seven inch

2256
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:08,760
Speaker 1: you beat product out there. With another quarterback and out

2257
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:11,920
Speaker 1: there with the Ken Dorsey, the Bill's new quarterbacks coach.

2258
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:14,800
Speaker 1: What did you notice, if anything, from that group, Jackson,

2259
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure you could tell when I was on the

2260
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 1: air with you out there that it was windy, like

2261
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:21,920
Speaker 1: really windy, like I would say, twenty twenty five miles

2262
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 1: an hour. So the first team segment, the offense is

2263
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:30,479
Speaker 1: going into the wind, which is towards the lake, this

2264
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:35,640
Speaker 1: way towards, and Tyree is just it's no problem, I'm

2265
01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 1: throwing over here. Well, he had a couple of errand

2266
01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:41,040
Speaker 1: balls early, but as it went on, he got better

2267
01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 1: and he was throwing strikes like he was throwing the

2268
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 1: four steamer, you know what I mean. He was throwing

2269
01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:51,920
Speaker 1: ninety five today. He was letting it go and his

2270
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:54,720
Speaker 1: throws were not impacted really by the wind, which was

2271
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:57,840
Speaker 1: encouraging to see. And I think that's what made him

2272
01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 1: so attractive to the Bills after the draft was over,

2273
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:06,360
Speaker 1: because I think they're hoping the physical tools can be

2274
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:10,640
Speaker 1: developed to a degree where God forbid, you know, in

2275
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 1: time he's the backup quarterback and then God forbid Josh

2276
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:15,760
Speaker 1: misses three or four games. You put this guy in

2277
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:18,960
Speaker 1: and you don't have to change your offense at all

2278
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:23,720
Speaker 1: because he has the exact same physical skill set. I'm

2279
01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:26,519
Speaker 1: not saying he's Josh Allen, but he's the same size,

2280
01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 1: He's got the same rocket arm. He can run. Not

2281
01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:35,439
Speaker 1: as fast as Josh, but he can run. He just

2282
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 1: needs refinement. He needs development and refinement. So you have

2283
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:42,040
Speaker 1: Matt Barkley here on a two year deal. When that

2284
01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 1: two year deal is up, I think there is a

2285
01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 1: hope that Tyree Jackson can be the backup quarterback because

2286
01:52:48,160 --> 01:52:52,240
Speaker 1: then you've got two guys who are almost identical in

2287
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 1: physical stature and skill set ability. You know, Josh is

2288
01:52:58,160 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 1: the guy, and we're not gonna make any mistake about that.

2289
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:03,200
Speaker 1: But I think if this kid can develop, he's the

2290
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 1: future backup QB here, and he affords this team the

2291
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 1: luxury of not having, you know, a lot of backups

2292
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 1: in this league. They're not anywhere near the same as

2293
01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:14,799
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. And you have to get a police

2294
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:17,160
Speaker 1: We can't do these plays because we got this guy

2295
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:18,760
Speaker 1: in now, or we you know, we can't throw that

2296
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 1: because he can't throw that twenty yard out from the

2297
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:24,639
Speaker 1: far hash. This kid can do just about everything physically

2298
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Speaker 1: that Josh can do. He just doesn't do it with

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01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:30,200
Speaker 1: the consistency or the refinement just yet. Tyree signed here

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01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:32,640
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, right Saturday night after the draft, when

2301
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:34,679
Speaker 1: the draft ended. How much of the last two weeks

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01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:37,479
Speaker 1: do you think the Bill's brain trust spent talking about

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01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:40,400
Speaker 1: Tyree and maybe more importantly, talking about Derek Anderson, like,

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01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 1: is he coming back? Does he want to come back?

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01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:45,160
Speaker 1: Should we force the issue and maybe get more playing time,

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01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:48,400
Speaker 1: more reps for Tyree Jackson summer? No, I mean I

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01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:51,760
Speaker 1: got the sense that well. Sean McDermott said today in

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01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:54,559
Speaker 1: his press conference that about a week or two before

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01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:58,000
Speaker 1: the offseason conditioning program began, that's when they got worried

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01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:00,160
Speaker 1: from Derek like, look, I'm probably not coming back. I'm

2311
01:54:00,160 --> 01:54:02,799
Speaker 1: just gonna hang it up. I just want to retire

2312
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:05,679
Speaker 1: at this point, I think that's when the wheels started turning.

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01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 1: You know that they're gonna need to look at other

2314
01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 1: options for a third quarterback. And then at the end

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01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 1: of the draft, you know, there they are hoping that

2316
01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:16,439
Speaker 1: Tyree doesn't get drafted, and sure enough he doesn't, they

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01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:19,600
Speaker 1: get him here, and you know the rest is what

2318
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 1: we see now. I think you're worried about losing the

2319
01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:27,720
Speaker 1: veteran in the room and the mentor that Derek Anderson was.

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Speaker 1: I think Barkley is a pretty good mentor. He helped

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Speaker 1: Josh almost as much as Derek did. And then on

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01:54:35,160 --> 01:54:39,200
Speaker 1: a secondary level, the new quarterback coach, Ken Dorsey is

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01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:44,640
Speaker 1: essentially Derek Anderson because Derek Anderson and Ken Dorsey were

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01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 1: teammates in Cleveland for three seasons. Then later on, when

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Speaker 1: Derek was mentoring Cam Newton as a backup quarterback in Carolina,

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01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:56,400
Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey was his quarterbacks coach there for a couple

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01:54:56,440 --> 01:55:01,000
Speaker 1: of years as well. So they've worked together for upwards

2328
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:04,840
Speaker 1: of half a dozen years in football, every single day

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01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 1: for entire football seasons and offseasons. So I think there's

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Speaker 1: a lot. I think in coach mcdermot's head he sees

2331
01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:17,640
Speaker 1: a lot of the same teaching and instruction coming from

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Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey that was coming last year from Derek Anderson.

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01:55:21,120 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 1: So I don't think he sees a void in mentorship

2334
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 1: at all in that locker room. As a matter of fact,

2335
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 1: when Ken Dorsey was hired by the Bills, I called

2336
01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson and interviewed him over the phone about Ken

2337
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 1: and he said, No, this guy's gonna be great for

2338
01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 1: a room. He's going to be dynamic. He keeps it

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01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:44,440
Speaker 1: fresh and interesting every single day. He challenges you with,

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01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:47,440
Speaker 1: you know, whatever quizzing he's doing with the system, with

2341
01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:50,440
Speaker 1: a play with a tape example, he'll show tape of

2342
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:53,360
Speaker 1: other guys to kind of reinforce points. So, I mean,

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01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:56,880
Speaker 1: he couldn't have said much more about what Ken Dorsey

2344
01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 1: is going to bring to the table. And I think

2345
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 1: coach mc rman interviewed him when he initially put this

2346
01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:04,680
Speaker 1: staff together and he couldn't get him right. And he

2347
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:07,320
Speaker 1: I think he's over the moon that he's got him now. Um.

2348
01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 1: One more question about Tyree Jackson. Two part question actually

2349
01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:14,240
Speaker 1: how much preseason playing time for Tyree? I e? Does

2350
01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:17,320
Speaker 1: he start and playing maybe the entire fourth and final

2351
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:19,680
Speaker 1: He's looking down the barrel of the fourth game for sure.

2352
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:23,839
Speaker 1: And secondly, what does what do they do three quarterbacks

2353
01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 1: on the fifty three man roster? Care are they going

2354
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:27,680
Speaker 1: to be able to putting him out there? I think

2355
01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:29,840
Speaker 1: it's looking I think it's looking that way. I think

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01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna want to expose him. No, I don't see

2357
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:33,680
Speaker 1: he plays well in preseason. I don't think he can

2358
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:36,360
Speaker 1: do that now, No, No, I think you're you're looking

2359
01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:40,840
Speaker 1: at three quarterbacks barring some kind of disaster at another

2360
01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 1: position where you may have to carry more people. Maybe

2361
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:45,880
Speaker 1: you have some terrible rash of injuries at a position

2362
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:48,160
Speaker 1: going through the preseason, and you've got to make adjustments

2363
01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:50,120
Speaker 1: to cover that, and you got it. You know. It's

2364
01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:52,160
Speaker 1: like we always say, when you're doing that fifty three,

2365
01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:54,320
Speaker 1: you've got to rob from Peter to pay Paul and

2366
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:58,360
Speaker 1: make that all work together. Um, it's They're gonna be

2367
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 1: some interesting ross your number decisions this year, Murph, not

2368
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:07,000
Speaker 1: only because they're better at a lot of different positions

2369
01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 1: and the talent on the roster has been raised collectively.

2370
01:57:11,160 --> 01:57:14,880
Speaker 1: But are you what are you doing at running back?

2371
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:17,640
Speaker 1: Are you keeping four? Are you keeping five because you

2372
01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 1: want centuries perry for special teams? Does that mean Pat

2373
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:23,920
Speaker 1: DeMarco is on this roster? What are you doing a

2374
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:26,320
Speaker 1: tight end? Are you keeping four or only three like

2375
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:29,720
Speaker 1: they did last year? Is twelve personnel going to be

2376
01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:32,320
Speaker 1: a bigger part of their offensive looks this year? If so,

2377
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:35,960
Speaker 1: you're probably keeping four instead of three, And then flip

2378
01:57:36,040 --> 01:57:39,240
Speaker 1: it over to the quarterback. Can you afford to keep

2379
01:57:39,320 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 1: three because you're keeping five here or four there, or

2380
01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:43,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I think there's gonna

2381
01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:46,400
Speaker 1: be a lot of those decisions that are gonna have

2382
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 1: to get ironed out, and a lot of them are

2383
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:50,320
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a good number of them that aren't

2384
01:57:50,360 --> 01:57:53,000
Speaker 1: going to be easy. And that's one of them right there.

2385
01:57:53,200 --> 01:57:55,120
Speaker 1: What does the rest of this weekend look like for

2386
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:57,880
Speaker 1: those players and coaches? A couple of practices left with

2387
01:57:58,000 --> 01:58:01,400
Speaker 1: the practice a little bit. It's meat our repeat practice

2388
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:04,360
Speaker 1: and shower for the next two days. So yeah, they've

2389
01:58:04,400 --> 01:58:06,840
Speaker 1: gotta they're gonna knock this out over the next couple

2390
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:09,360
Speaker 1: of days. And you know, talking to a lot of

2391
01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:12,840
Speaker 1: these young players, they're like, we just want to feel

2392
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:18,080
Speaker 1: comfortable enough in what we're doing. So when we get

2393
01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:22,920
Speaker 1: to OTAs, you know, our heads aren't spinning. I hate

2394
01:58:22,920 --> 01:58:24,520
Speaker 1: to tell them, tell them their heads are gonna be

2395
01:58:24,520 --> 01:58:27,080
Speaker 1: spinning a little. It's just it's gonna happen. Yeah, it's

2396
01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:29,960
Speaker 1: just part of the natural order of things, especially knowing

2397
01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:32,240
Speaker 1: that with the vets here, the speed is going to

2398
01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:34,760
Speaker 1: pick up, so they might have a handle on it.

2399
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:37,920
Speaker 1: But it's kind of like for the first time you know,

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01:58:37,960 --> 01:58:41,080
Speaker 1: you've learned Spanish in school as a second language. Then

2401
01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:43,520
Speaker 1: you go to Spain and you're like, what the heck

2402
01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:46,520
Speaker 1: is going on here? Mast Spasio, You're telling everybody to

2403
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:49,920
Speaker 1: slow down because it's way too fast for you. Um

2404
01:58:50,240 --> 01:58:54,560
Speaker 1: like that, Yeah, what's the This is Rosado, but back

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01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:59,000
Speaker 1: on Long Island. I'm sorry. Yeah. So I was trying

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01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:01,920
Speaker 1: to think of, Hey, what's coming up on the website.

2407
01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:06,640
Speaker 1: So we'll have five observations from rookie miniicamp. So I'll

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01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:08,960
Speaker 1: have that up on the website. We'll also have a

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01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:13,440
Speaker 1: feature story tomorrow on Tyree Jackson. Um, that was done

2410
01:59:13,480 --> 01:59:16,120
Speaker 1: by my intern, who's who's going to UB So he

2411
01:59:16,200 --> 01:59:18,320
Speaker 1: knows Tyree intimately, so he was talking to him for

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01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:21,680
Speaker 1: a good long time. UM about that. Cam Lewis looked

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01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:23,640
Speaker 1: pretty good today also the Lord be kid. Yeah, he

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01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:26,920
Speaker 1: held his own out short. Yeah. Good good mirror guy,

2415
01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:29,640
Speaker 1: good mirror guy, good at shadowing people on routes. I

2416
01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:31,240
Speaker 1: liked what I saw from him. I thought he was

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01:59:31,280 --> 01:59:34,120
Speaker 1: the most consistent corner out there today. And uh, Coach

2418
01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:36,640
Speaker 1: Butler was in his ear a ton, which is a

2419
01:59:36,680 --> 01:59:39,520
Speaker 1: good thing. If you got your coach paying attention to you,

2420
01:59:39,600 --> 01:59:42,040
Speaker 1: it's because he cares about making you better and he

2421
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:44,400
Speaker 1: was in his ear maybe more than anybody else today.

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01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:48,280
Speaker 1: Granted is mostly a tryout guys besides him, but he

2423
01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:50,280
Speaker 1: looked pretty good on a couple of plays there, and

2424
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:54,640
Speaker 1: he's he's pretty, he's glue. He's a good plaster guy.

2425
01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:58,680
Speaker 1: So that's encouraging to see. Yeah, So we'll have yeah,

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01:59:58,760 --> 02:00:01,760
Speaker 1: rookie Minicamp coverage and then early next week we'll have

2427
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Speaker 1: some more recap of it and then some feature stories.

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Speaker 1: You know, David Sills is on that list because he's

2429
02:00:07,640 --> 02:00:10,880
Speaker 1: got a great story to tell and really a humble kid.

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02:00:10,960 --> 02:00:13,080
Speaker 1: And maybe some coverage on Duke Williams. We'll see. We're

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02:00:13,320 --> 02:00:15,800
Speaker 1: ironing it all out after check it out Buffalo bills

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Speaker 1: dot com. Chris Brown, Bill's Insider, Thanks very much. Yep, Chris,

2433
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Speaker 1: just off the field, off the sidelines from the Rocky Minniicamp.

2434
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Speaker 1: We'll talk more about that. Also talk more about our

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Speaker 1: topic of the day, which AFC East team did the

2436
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Speaker 1: most improvement person l wise in the offseason. Give us

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Speaker 1: a call eight oh three five fifty or toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty back

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Speaker 1: but more one Bill's Live presented by Kalada Health from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

2441
02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:53,800
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. Seem task around vacation.

2442
02:00:53,840 --> 02:00:55,840
Speaker 1: I'm John Murphy Er. Thanks to Chris Brown and Thurman

2443
02:00:55,920 --> 02:00:58,800
Speaker 1: Thomas for joining us today. I'm all alone. I'm on

2444
02:00:58,880 --> 02:01:00,880
Speaker 1: a loan for the final half hour of the show.

2445
02:01:01,400 --> 02:01:03,800
Speaker 1: I'll be all right, I'll be okay. It's lonely in

2446
02:01:03,880 --> 02:01:05,760
Speaker 1: the studio, you know, the great big studio with all

2447
02:01:05,800 --> 02:01:07,920
Speaker 1: the furniture in the helmets and the lights and the

2448
02:01:08,520 --> 02:01:12,200
Speaker 1: stuff behind me, and it's one person not enough. In

2449
02:01:12,280 --> 02:01:14,840
Speaker 1: the meantime, let's talk about Our topic of the day

2450
02:01:14,960 --> 02:01:17,200
Speaker 1: is Rookie Minicamp comes to an end on day one.

2451
02:01:17,240 --> 02:01:19,080
Speaker 1: Our topic of the day we take a look around

2452
02:01:19,120 --> 02:01:21,840
Speaker 1: the AFC East. Which AFC East team made the best

2453
02:01:21,960 --> 02:01:25,720
Speaker 1: roster editions this offseason? On the Twitter poll, it's it's

2454
02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:30,080
Speaker 1: a route, it's a landslide. On Twitter, eighties eight percent

2455
02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:32,920
Speaker 1: of our respondents say the Bills, you idiot, The Bills

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02:01:33,000 --> 02:01:36,280
Speaker 1: made the best and biggest or the best. We're talking

2457
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Speaker 1: about the best roster editions. That's out of sixteen hundred votes,

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Speaker 1: eighty eight percent say the Bills, seven percent say the Jets,

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Speaker 1: three percent say the Patriots, two percent say the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: I would just I think i'd vote for the Bills

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02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:52,040
Speaker 1: as well, But don't discount the moves the Jets made.

2462
02:01:52,080 --> 02:01:54,800
Speaker 1: They made some moves, and they made some big name moves.

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02:01:55,400 --> 02:01:57,120
Speaker 1: The Bills better than the Jets, I believe they are,

2464
02:01:57,600 --> 02:02:01,240
Speaker 1: But the Jets made significant moves from their roster this offseason.

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Speaker 1: I got a story about it, which is why it

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02:02:03,160 --> 02:02:04,920
Speaker 1: was top of mind today. Story about it coming up

2467
02:02:04,960 --> 02:02:07,880
Speaker 1: on Buffalo bills dot com either Sunday or Monday. Let's

2468
02:02:07,880 --> 02:02:10,400
Speaker 1: go to John and Rochester thoughts on this. I believe John.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, you're on the air with us. Hey, John, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was, you know, I was really happy with the Bills.

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02:02:15,320 --> 02:02:17,600
Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you, I was talking to a

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Speaker 1: book guy last day. He's a sports book he's a

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02:02:20,360 --> 02:02:22,400
Speaker 1: friend of my sports book in Las Vegas. He was

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02:02:22,480 --> 02:02:26,800
Speaker 1: telling me the Patriots had like fifteen draft picks this

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02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:29,960
Speaker 1: past year. Yeah, I got the list here. They had

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02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:31,960
Speaker 1: a ton they had. They did a lot of trading

2477
02:02:32,040 --> 02:02:36,840
Speaker 1: on Draft Day. Yeah, But anyways, who are the impactful

2478
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:40,360
Speaker 1: moves they had the impactful trades? Ahead, let me count

2479
02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:44,400
Speaker 1: them one two Chase win, of which the defensive end

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02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:47,400
Speaker 1: from Michigan. Maybe, well here Nikila Harry is big in

2481
02:02:47,440 --> 02:02:56,800
Speaker 1: the first round. But let me count their draft picks one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.

2482
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Speaker 1: They wound up with ten picks Patriots. Okay, But the

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Speaker 1: other thing I was going to mention, how to heck

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Speaker 1: did Tyree Jackson not get drafted? It's unbelievable. Yeah, it's

2485
02:03:06,760 --> 02:03:08,880
Speaker 1: kind of weird. And the Bills have talked about it

2486
02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:12,640
Speaker 1: a lot. Where did I see did ESPN have a

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02:03:13,240 --> 02:03:15,360
Speaker 1: all access video of that? And what was going through

2488
02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:18,080
Speaker 1: Tyree's head when all that was going on. I think

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02:03:18,120 --> 02:03:21,280
Speaker 1: that's where it was. Yeah, it's a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the fact that he went undrafted I think surprised the

2491
02:03:24,440 --> 02:03:26,320
Speaker 1: Bills and many other teams. I don't know. I mean,

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02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:28,720
Speaker 1: he's a raw talent, There's no question about that. He

2493
02:03:28,880 --> 02:03:31,960
Speaker 1: is raw, you know, a six foot seven inches standing

2494
02:03:32,000 --> 02:03:35,160
Speaker 1: out there even at Bill's rookie minicamp today. I went

2495
02:03:35,200 --> 02:03:37,680
Speaker 1: out for less than five minutes before we came on

2496
02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:40,040
Speaker 1: the air, right around noon. The guy jumps out at

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02:03:40,120 --> 02:03:42,360
Speaker 1: you because of his size, because of his length and

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02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:44,560
Speaker 1: his size, and as Chris said, he was firing the

2499
02:03:44,600 --> 02:03:48,880
Speaker 1: ball into the wind today without much adversary action at all.

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02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:51,400
Speaker 1: It was it was blustery out there. It was it's

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02:03:51,440 --> 02:03:54,000
Speaker 1: like fifty degrees in Orchard Park right now. Earlier today

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02:03:54,040 --> 02:03:56,760
Speaker 1: it was probably high forties, low fifties. And he's throwing

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Speaker 1: into the wind and making throws. That was impressive. I

2504
02:03:59,000 --> 02:04:02,920
Speaker 1: don't know how he went unpicked. That was odd, wasn't it. Yeah? Yeah,

2505
02:04:03,240 --> 02:04:05,280
Speaker 1: I heard he was doing so well in the combine.

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02:04:05,600 --> 02:04:08,000
Speaker 1: That surprised me. The other thing I want to get

2507
02:04:08,080 --> 02:04:12,040
Speaker 1: into is the Bills. There are one hundred to one

2508
02:04:12,080 --> 02:04:14,520
Speaker 1: odds to win the Super Bowl. I'll tell you I

2509
02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:18,440
Speaker 1: could butt the house on that's Those are high odds.

2510
02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:22,680
Speaker 1: In past years, I've noticed that I typically have but

2511
02:04:23,000 --> 02:04:25,880
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars on the bills to win the Super

2512
02:04:25,920 --> 02:04:30,800
Speaker 1: Bowl every year, and and uh, I'm gonna past maybe

2513
02:04:30,840 --> 02:04:33,520
Speaker 1: going five, six or four years ago, the odds are

2514
02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:36,480
Speaker 1: like sixty to one, seventy to one, but one hundred

2515
02:04:36,520 --> 02:04:38,440
Speaker 1: to one with this kind of draft and some of

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02:04:38,480 --> 02:04:40,920
Speaker 1: the equisitions real they've made. I think that's high. What

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02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:43,920
Speaker 1: are your thoughts? Yeah, I don't know. I'm not a

2518
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:47,280
Speaker 1: better so I don't know if that's good odds, bad odds.

2519
02:04:47,320 --> 02:04:49,960
Speaker 1: It's it's long odds, no question about that. But I

2520
02:04:50,040 --> 02:04:52,600
Speaker 1: mean you have to look at who's who's got longer odds?

2521
02:04:52,640 --> 02:04:54,520
Speaker 1: Do you know? I don't know who's got longer odds

2522
02:04:54,520 --> 02:04:57,040
Speaker 1: in the Bills. Is there nobody? Then? Yeah, that's a problem,

2523
02:04:57,120 --> 02:04:59,240
Speaker 1: but I'm sure somebody is. John, Thanks your car. I

2524
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:01,480
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't be on football and I don't

2525
02:05:01,480 --> 02:05:04,120
Speaker 1: bet on anything really, but I don't know, Um, if

2526
02:05:04,160 --> 02:05:07,320
Speaker 1: those are good odds or not, they're long odds. I'd

2527
02:05:07,360 --> 02:05:10,000
Speaker 1: like to see who's got longer odds. I guess. Talking

2528
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:14,200
Speaker 1: about Tyree Jackson, he did have his first Bill's minicamp

2529
02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:17,320
Speaker 1: practice today and briefly after practice he got a chance

2530
02:05:17,360 --> 02:05:19,280
Speaker 1: to stop and talk to the media. Let's listen in

2531
02:05:19,400 --> 02:05:21,880
Speaker 1: what you be product? Tyree Jackson had to say after

2532
02:05:21,920 --> 02:05:24,920
Speaker 1: his first rookie minicamp practice. Yeah, I've got to talk

2533
02:05:24,960 --> 02:05:27,160
Speaker 1: to Josh. You know, he's very excited and we're just

2534
02:05:27,280 --> 02:05:28,960
Speaker 1: excited to get to work. That's at the end of

2535
02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:31,440
Speaker 1: the day. Everyone's just very excited to you know, practice

2536
02:05:31,480 --> 02:05:33,600
Speaker 1: each day and get better each day and learn. That's

2537
02:05:33,600 --> 02:05:35,600
Speaker 1: what we're all trying to do, is learn and improve

2538
02:05:35,680 --> 02:05:38,480
Speaker 1: each day, what kind of what were your impressions though

2539
02:05:38,640 --> 02:05:41,680
Speaker 1: working with Jordan Palmer and Josh together, I know Sam

2540
02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:44,240
Speaker 1: Garnold was part of as well. Just some takeaways from

2541
02:05:44,360 --> 02:05:46,320
Speaker 1: from that. It was awesome, you know, getting out there

2542
02:05:46,360 --> 02:05:48,280
Speaker 1: to compete with all those guys and throw the ball around.

2543
02:05:48,360 --> 02:05:51,280
Speaker 1: Josh's an awesome quarterbacks, So getting to learn from him

2544
02:05:51,360 --> 02:05:53,080
Speaker 1: and you know, be around him out there in California

2545
02:05:53,240 --> 02:05:56,680
Speaker 1: was good. Styree Jackson speaking moments ago with the media

2546
02:05:56,760 --> 02:05:58,920
Speaker 1: here at one Wields Drive. One guy who spoke was

2547
02:05:59,200 --> 02:06:02,640
Speaker 1: Duke Williams, the wide receiver, Auburn product who played the

2548
02:06:02,720 --> 02:06:04,600
Speaker 1: last couple of years in the Canadian Football League. He

2549
02:06:04,600 --> 02:06:06,240
Speaker 1: was on the show here a couple of fridays ago,

2550
02:06:06,880 --> 02:06:09,560
Speaker 1: and it was I thought of really interesting that Chris

2551
02:06:09,640 --> 02:06:12,440
Speaker 1: Brown mentioned how Duke Williams played with an edge today.

2552
02:06:12,520 --> 02:06:15,400
Speaker 1: Now he is one of the few veterans, he's twenty

2553
02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:17,640
Speaker 1: seven years old, he's out there with the rookie's playing

2554
02:06:17,640 --> 02:06:19,960
Speaker 1: against twenty two year olds, twenty one year olds and

2555
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:22,040
Speaker 1: Chris and he came out with an edge that Chris

2556
02:06:22,120 --> 02:06:25,480
Speaker 1: saw during the special teams, the drills they were doing.

2557
02:06:25,640 --> 02:06:27,600
Speaker 1: Let's listen to him. Duke Williams from the CFL the

2558
02:06:27,720 --> 02:06:31,080
Speaker 1: Edmonton Eskimos talking to the media after his first Bill's

2559
02:06:31,120 --> 02:06:34,640
Speaker 1: practice today, you know, every interview him, he said that

2560
02:06:34,680 --> 02:06:36,640
Speaker 1: I had to become a man, and that's what I did,

2561
02:06:36,720 --> 02:06:40,800
Speaker 1: and now I'm more mature and now I'm actually having

2562
02:06:40,880 --> 02:06:43,320
Speaker 1: fun with it. And it's a blessing of beard. But

2563
02:06:43,440 --> 02:06:46,200
Speaker 1: being a facility to bear around these coaches, these players,

2564
02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's a job for everybody, but we're here

2565
02:06:49,160 --> 02:06:51,200
Speaker 1: to have fun. It's a brotherhood and that's what we do.

2566
02:06:51,400 --> 02:06:53,920
Speaker 1: We're here to play for each other. I'm sure already

2567
02:06:54,600 --> 02:06:56,840
Speaker 1: kind of been indoctrinated to a certain degree as to

2568
02:06:57,040 --> 02:06:59,600
Speaker 1: how coach likes to run things here on a daily basis,

2569
02:06:59,680 --> 02:07:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, process and sticking to it. He likes nose

2570
02:07:03,240 --> 02:07:05,720
Speaker 1: to the grindstone kind of guys. But for you is

2571
02:07:05,800 --> 02:07:07,640
Speaker 1: that like, hey, I've been doing that the last two

2572
02:07:07,720 --> 02:07:10,560
Speaker 1: years every day to get to this point. So it's

2573
02:07:10,600 --> 02:07:12,640
Speaker 1: like nothing new or you got to step it up

2574
02:07:12,680 --> 02:07:16,200
Speaker 1: in here, Coach McDermott, don't play. You know, it's finished

2575
02:07:16,240 --> 02:07:18,120
Speaker 1: all the time. No matter what you're doing, you gotta finish.

2576
02:07:18,560 --> 02:07:20,800
Speaker 1: And does that resonate with you hearing that coming in

2577
02:07:20,840 --> 02:07:23,360
Speaker 1: the door. I gotta I gotta finish now, you know.

2578
02:07:23,600 --> 02:07:25,800
Speaker 1: First practice last week when we were running, I was like,

2579
02:07:26,080 --> 02:07:29,680
Speaker 1: you know, finishing boy. When I watched film, I'm seeing

2580
02:07:29,840 --> 02:07:31,200
Speaker 1: or burst out of other players. So I was like,

2581
02:07:31,280 --> 02:07:33,080
Speaker 1: let me step it up a notch and now I

2582
02:07:33,240 --> 02:07:36,240
Speaker 1: know how to really finish. Ever, after every catch I finished,

2583
02:07:36,280 --> 02:07:38,560
Speaker 1: if I ain't getting the ball, still finished, if I run,

2584
02:07:38,720 --> 02:07:41,160
Speaker 1: go find somebody to block, but finish all day, loan,

2585
02:07:41,360 --> 02:07:45,600
Speaker 1: he stretched that all day finish well, Happy birthday, Baba.

2586
02:07:45,880 --> 02:07:49,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, appreciate. I mean, you're here at rookie

2587
02:07:49,640 --> 02:07:52,120
Speaker 1: camp x one day, got three days short of being

2588
02:07:52,160 --> 02:07:56,960
Speaker 1: twenty seven. How does that register in your mind? Football?

2589
02:07:56,960 --> 02:08:01,520
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm twenty one, you know, But I'm

2590
02:08:01,560 --> 02:08:03,560
Speaker 1: not wronging about it. I'm just heading to play. That's

2591
02:08:03,560 --> 02:08:05,640
Speaker 1: all I could do, you know, age don't matter. I

2592
02:08:05,800 --> 02:08:07,480
Speaker 1: just head a ball. Did you did you like the

2593
02:08:07,600 --> 02:08:09,640
Speaker 1: fact that as that draft went on, they did not

2594
02:08:09,720 --> 02:08:13,160
Speaker 1: pick a receiver. I mean the competitions, competition, but they

2595
02:08:13,200 --> 02:08:15,280
Speaker 1: did not add They added the guys in fretasy, but

2596
02:08:15,360 --> 02:08:17,400
Speaker 1: they didn't feel the need to do it and the draft.

2597
02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:19,960
Speaker 1: Did you kind of appreciate that they felt like they

2598
02:08:20,000 --> 02:08:22,440
Speaker 1: had it already in the room. You know, they had

2599
02:08:22,480 --> 02:08:26,320
Speaker 1: a drafted the receiver then his life. Everything's a competition,

2600
02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:31,400
Speaker 1: football work, it's all the competition. So I'm here to

2601
02:08:31,440 --> 02:08:34,080
Speaker 1: compete no matter who they draft. That's not my problem.

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02:08:34,120 --> 02:08:36,160
Speaker 1: I only could control what I can and that's why

2603
02:08:36,160 --> 02:08:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm here. Interesting addition to the wide receiver group, right,

2604
02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:43,080
Speaker 1: I think he is, and Duke Williams has more than

2605
02:08:43,120 --> 02:08:45,160
Speaker 1: a few fans among the Bills fan base who want

2606
02:08:45,160 --> 02:08:47,200
Speaker 1: to see what he might add to that wide receiver group.

2607
02:08:47,440 --> 02:08:50,200
Speaker 1: Another guy who's got some fans is an undrafted rookie

2608
02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:52,720
Speaker 1: free agent signed by the Bills right after the draft,

2609
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:55,040
Speaker 1: and that is David Sills, a young man from West

2610
02:08:55,120 --> 02:08:58,280
Speaker 1: Virginia University. He had his first minicamp practice today and

2611
02:08:58,400 --> 02:09:00,360
Speaker 1: David Sills talked about it just moments go in the

2612
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Speaker 1: field house. It was awesome. I mean, uh, you know,

2613
02:09:03,680 --> 02:09:06,640
Speaker 1: I don't really think about playing quarterback anymore, so this is, uh,

2614
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Speaker 1: this is my dream and um, you know, it's awesome

2615
02:09:09,240 --> 02:09:11,680
Speaker 1: that the Buffalo Bills gave me opportunity to come out

2616
02:09:11,760 --> 02:09:13,840
Speaker 1: here and played again. And I love Uh, it was

2617
02:09:13,880 --> 02:09:16,919
Speaker 1: awesome getting out there today, um, you know, and competing

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Speaker 1: with my new teammates, Uh, you know, we're all working

2619
02:09:20,080 --> 02:09:22,800
Speaker 1: to do everything we can to contribute to the team. Um,

2620
02:09:22,880 --> 02:09:25,920
Speaker 1: you know, whether that's special teams, uh, offense or defense,

2621
02:09:26,040 --> 02:09:27,960
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. We're all out there trying to

2622
02:09:28,000 --> 02:09:29,920
Speaker 1: compete and trying to do whatever we can to to

2623
02:09:30,400 --> 02:09:32,560
Speaker 1: benefit the team. How big is that chip on your

2624
02:09:32,560 --> 02:09:35,160
Speaker 1: shoulder after going through three days of the draft and

2625
02:09:35,280 --> 02:09:38,400
Speaker 1: not hearing your name called, I mean it's huge. I've

2626
02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:40,840
Speaker 1: always played with a chip on my shoulder. UM, so

2627
02:09:40,960 --> 02:09:42,880
Speaker 1: it's not something new to me. Um. You know, I

2628
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:45,320
Speaker 1: feel like I've always kind of been doubted, um you know,

2629
02:09:45,480 --> 02:09:47,960
Speaker 1: just playing. But um, you know, the the Bills gave

2630
02:09:48,000 --> 02:09:51,080
Speaker 1: me opportunity. Um, shows that they believe in me. Um

2631
02:09:51,240 --> 02:09:53,360
Speaker 1: you know. And and uh, I'm just gonna go out

2632
02:09:53,360 --> 02:09:55,280
Speaker 1: there every day and and do everything I can to

2633
02:09:55,480 --> 02:09:58,400
Speaker 1: to help this organization and help this team. There you go,

2634
02:09:58,760 --> 02:10:00,680
Speaker 1: and it will be achieved. This see what he brings

2635
02:10:00,720 --> 02:10:03,120
Speaker 1: to that competition. Chris is right, Chris Brown. We just

2636
02:10:03,160 --> 02:10:05,240
Speaker 1: had him in the studio a minute ago about there's

2637
02:10:05,440 --> 02:10:07,760
Speaker 1: a lot of interesting moves to be made and of

2638
02:10:07,800 --> 02:10:09,880
Speaker 1: course a long way to go. They just getting the

2639
02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:11,800
Speaker 1: rookies in here for a couple of days of practice

2640
02:10:11,840 --> 02:10:15,400
Speaker 1: the OTA starting a week or so the mandatory mini

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02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:17,240
Speaker 1: camp in mid June, and then they're off until they

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02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:19,520
Speaker 1: get the camp. But there'll be a lot of interesting

2643
02:10:19,600 --> 02:10:22,560
Speaker 1: roster decisions and interesting cuts to be made by this team,

2644
02:10:22,600 --> 02:10:25,040
Speaker 1: maybe more interesting than the last couple of years. We'll

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Speaker 1: see all we're taking a break, We're coming back. One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalata Health from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: Our man Chris Brown spent a lot of time on

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Speaker 1: the air with US year Today Bills Insider from Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills dot Com. He was covering the rookie minicamp for

2654
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Speaker 1: US and he talked to us about what he expected

2655
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Speaker 1: today and this weekend from first round draft pick and Oliver.

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Speaker 1: I just think confirmation of his explosiveness. I think in

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Speaker 1: this kind of a setting they would expect him to

2658
02:11:16,280 --> 02:11:21,440
Speaker 1: stand out and be one of the more noticeable players

2659
02:11:21,520 --> 02:11:24,840
Speaker 1: that flashes out here. On the field. You know, defensive

2660
02:11:24,920 --> 02:11:28,120
Speaker 1: line play is not all that complicated. There aren't as

2661
02:11:28,200 --> 02:11:32,160
Speaker 1: many reads and responsibilities as there are for sale linebacker

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02:11:32,280 --> 02:11:35,360
Speaker 1: or defensive back, so he'll have an opportunity to really

2663
02:11:35,440 --> 02:11:38,520
Speaker 1: let his athletic abilities show. Now, granted, we're talking shorts

2664
02:11:38,560 --> 02:11:40,920
Speaker 1: and helmets here, it's still not in real football, and

2665
02:11:41,080 --> 02:11:43,760
Speaker 1: that is never more apparent than up on the lines

2666
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Speaker 1: for the offensive and defensive players. Man Chris Brown out

2667
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Speaker 1: there in the wind in Orchard Park today, the fifty

2668
02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:51,960
Speaker 1: degree temperatures the wind have felt a lot like football

2669
02:11:52,000 --> 02:11:54,200
Speaker 1: weather out there. Thurman Thomas spent a good hour with

2670
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Speaker 1: us on the show today and he talked about how

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Speaker 1: this roster as it's presently constructed by the Buffalo Bills

2672
02:12:00,200 --> 02:12:02,400
Speaker 1: sets up for some great competition when they get the

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Speaker 1: training camp this summer. You know, that's the unknown, that's

2674
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Speaker 1: the competition part that comes out. I know a couple

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Speaker 1: of these guys signed one year deals. Yep. The guy

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02:12:13,840 --> 02:12:18,360
Speaker 1: from New England, yeah, Waddle, Yeah, he's a one year deal. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: bringing veterans guys like that who have been in that

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Speaker 1: situation before. So it's gonna be a very competitive training camp.

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Speaker 1: And I think when you look at Lashaw McCoy and

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Speaker 1: Frank Gore, and you have that third guy. Who is

2681
02:12:30,240 --> 02:12:31,960
Speaker 1: it going to be? Who is it going to be?

2682
02:12:32,320 --> 02:12:34,200
Speaker 1: Or the two younger guys going to step up and

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02:12:34,800 --> 02:12:36,680
Speaker 1: might have to I want to say part ways with

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Speaker 1: Lashawn or Frank Gore or whatever. But if these couple

2685
02:12:39,280 --> 02:12:41,360
Speaker 1: of young guys step up and prove that they can play,

2686
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Speaker 1: you know, that turns into interesting battle throughout the throughout

2687
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Speaker 1: the training camp. But I'm really looking forward the offensive

2688
02:12:49,160 --> 02:12:51,400
Speaker 1: linement though. Yeah, urban's right out that there's a lot

2689
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Speaker 1: of interesting questions to be answered, and they'll do a

2690
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Speaker 1: little bit more of the rookies this weekend with practice tomorrow,

2691
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Speaker 1: practice on Sunday, meetings throughout the weekend, and the rookie

2692
02:13:00,000 --> 02:13:02,880
Speaker 1: please give way to the return of the veterans next Monday.

2693
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Speaker 1: The veterans are back for another week of offseason conditioning

2694
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Speaker 1: heading up to OTA's just two weeks away. So we're

2695
02:13:09,840 --> 02:13:13,560
Speaker 1: moving through the offseason workout portion of the Bills offseason

2696
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Speaker 1: right now. So today, fifty four players in for camp

2697
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Speaker 1: for the rookie Mini camp, raft picks, undrafted players players

2698
02:13:19,520 --> 02:13:21,960
Speaker 1: on tryout with work to do. Back at work here

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Speaker 1: tomorrow builds with just one unsigned draft pick so far.

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Speaker 1: That would be the third rounder. Dawson knocks the tight

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Speaker 1: end who comes from Ole Miss. That's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for us. Today, we thank Thurman and Chris Brown for

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Speaker 1: helping us to get through the show. I want to

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Speaker 1: thank our production assistant George Blast, Jeff Coltonick Thomas Hommelder,

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Speaker 1: Kelly Rude, JJ Taredo, Kevin Cardis, James robol Our, producer

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Speaker 1: Jay Harris. We'll see him Monday. Have a great weekend, everybody.

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Speaker 1: We're back on Monday with One Bills Live from One

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