WEBVTT - What we’re hearing about the Cubs, starting with the David Peterson trade

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into Northside Territory. Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Sahade Charmer with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your

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<v Speaker 1>Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic and Patrick Jed

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<v Speaker 1>Hoyer has made a trade. His hand was forced. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>the injuries have gotten out of control. They were already

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<v Speaker 1>stacking up before this four game set with the Mets started.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got two more potentially significant injuries. We'll talk more

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<v Speaker 1>about the injuries in a little bit, but a late

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<v Speaker 1>night trade with the Mets, getting David Peterson from the Mets.

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<v Speaker 1>Surface level numbers don't look good, but this is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that puts the ball on the ground and that

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<v Speaker 1>works for the Cubs. And frankly, they just need healthy

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<v Speaker 1>major league arms right now. Beggars can't be choosers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good way to sum it up.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think there's a lot to like, probably because

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<v Speaker 3>the Cubs are so desperate, But to find a guy

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<v Speaker 3>who was an All Star as recently as last season.

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<v Speaker 3>Granted he wasn't very good in the second half and

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<v Speaker 3>has not been good this season, but still, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>a nice pedigree as a first round pick. I think

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<v Speaker 3>you can't underestimate the importance of escaping a losing situation

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<v Speaker 3>and just giving the Cubs something to work with. Like

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen how they've pretty much depleted all of their

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<v Speaker 3>pitching reserves. There's not really another guy just waiting there

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<v Speaker 3>in Iowa that you'd feel comfortable with. And look, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean that Mets game Wednesday night, the second half of the doubleheader,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean just atrocious defense like you could not have.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think that's gonna be one of those games,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when our colleagues at the Athletic are writing

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<v Speaker 3>kind of the autopsy of the season. I think that'll

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<v Speaker 3>be one of those sort of games or nights when

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<v Speaker 3>you include the Peterson trade. I know they're you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they're saying it's not a full scale sell off at

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<v Speaker 3>this point. I think they can reserve the right to

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<v Speaker 3>change their mind as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Put escaping New York Cubs infrastructure, just general change of

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<v Speaker 3>scenery like we've seen them do more with less before.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I mean they you know, they had Chris Fluxon

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<v Speaker 1>doing decently was that last year, Like you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of smoking mirrors for a while, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was productive for them. And got them through a segment

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<v Speaker 1>of the season, and quick council is kind of sat

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<v Speaker 1>now twice. I believe it was Tuesday after Cabrera got

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<v Speaker 1>hurt and then Wednesday after we heard about Ben Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>They just kind of need to get through this segment,

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<v Speaker 1>like get to the All Star break. That's how he's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of looking at it. He's not denying that they're

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<v Speaker 1>in a bit of a bind. They are short on pitching.

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<v Speaker 1>It is this is when you have to make one

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<v Speaker 1>of those moves. Cole Mathis is a decent prospect. He's

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<v Speaker 1>hurt a lot, but he second round pick from the

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Shaw draft or camp Smith draft.

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<v Speaker 3>Cam Smith Draws camp Smithles Mathis, and Ronnie Cruz.

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<v Speaker 2>The top three picks from that draft have all been traded.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, there you go, and matthis. I did get some

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<v Speaker 1>good reports on Mathis. I think his inability to stay

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<v Speaker 1>healthy is it makes it a little more you know,

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<v Speaker 1>digestible for Cubs fans and the orger to part with him.

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<v Speaker 1>But he is a slugger, someone that you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>he stays healthy, it could be an interesting prospect down

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<v Speaker 1>the line. But it's kind of this. I said it

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<v Speaker 1>to some other reporters yesterday when we were when we

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<v Speaker 1>got the news of Ben Brown, I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now's when you have to make the Quinn Priester type trade.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to maybe overpay for someone that can give

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<v Speaker 1>you innings and maybe that person turns out to be

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<v Speaker 1>better than you expected. I think you nailed it. The

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<v Speaker 1>defense is one and you said the change of scenery.

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<v Speaker 1>I think just when you're on a team that's struggling

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<v Speaker 1>like that, that type of stuff can snowball and it

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<v Speaker 1>can just be hard. Like six errors yesterday. Maybe if

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<v Speaker 1>they're a winning ball club, that's a three er game.

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<v Speaker 1>Just because you lose your focus, you're a little overthinking things,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it may be. I think when you're losing as

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<v Speaker 1>much as the Mets are and struggling like things do

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<v Speaker 1>have a way of getting in your head. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like we could make the argument, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like how the offense struggled for so long and in

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<v Speaker 1>the offense has gotten better. One of those guys that's

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<v Speaker 1>turned around, he's a key to the defense. Let's make

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<v Speaker 1>this our Daily Dingers segment presented by Fan Duel. We

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about Dansby Swanson and Benching him a week ago. Patrick,

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<v Speaker 1>We're not immune from this stuff. He and it was legitimate.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like there was an overreaction. It had been

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<v Speaker 1>quite a while of struggles from Dansby Swanson, but Craig

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<v Speaker 1>Council basically said there were two reasons. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>best version of the Cubs is with Dansby Swanson figuring

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<v Speaker 1>it out, and he is a great defensive shortstop. Cheded

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<v Speaker 1>Hoyer said, don't. We can't run away from our defense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's our strength. It's the backbone of their team. Dansby

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<v Speaker 1>Swanson helped win them a playoff series with his glove.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny help Kenny help the team, make David Peterson a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit better than he was with the Mets. That's

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<v Speaker 1>probably what the Cubs are wondering right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the defense stuff we sort of take

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<v Speaker 3>for granted after a while, Like when Jed and counsels

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<v Speaker 3>say that sort of stuff, you're like, yeah, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>super frustrating for fans to watch, you know, those at

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<v Speaker 3>bats and just how how comfortable opposing pitchers seemed to

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<v Speaker 3>get once they got to.

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<v Speaker 2>A certain point in the Cubs lineup.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe after you face PCA at the top and the

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<v Speaker 3>Cubs media relations staff their research team had some good

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<v Speaker 3>ones yesterday. I mean Dansey with the first player in

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<v Speaker 3>franchise history with three straight four plus RBI games and

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<v Speaker 3>doing stuff that like when you're being mentioned next to

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<v Speaker 3>Ernie Banks and Sammy Sosha in terms of like home

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<v Speaker 3>run RBI combinations over certain number games, you know you're

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<v Speaker 3>doing something right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I did feel like he had a good It was

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<v Speaker 1>a shortened weekend, I know, but it looked like he

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<v Speaker 1>was starting to get put the hit the ball on

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<v Speaker 1>the line a little bit more. That home run he

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<v Speaker 1>hit that was wind blown was that against the Rockies.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel like that game was really the turning point,

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<v Speaker 1>but he followed it up with some quality at bats

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<v Speaker 1>in the following games, and that's seeing that. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh okay, he's starting to hit the ball on the line.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously the past three games he's he's done a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>He's done a lot for this team and glob that like,

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<v Speaker 1>they need these guys, and right now I think they

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<v Speaker 1>need the offense to continue to carry them. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how they're gonna get through this weekend against the Brewers,

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<v Speaker 1>but they need they need to hit. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting. I don't like, you know, the pitching is

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<v Speaker 1>just so shorthanded. I know. They added David Peterson. They

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<v Speaker 1>added Bryce Wilson, another name picked up off the waiver

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<v Speaker 1>wire from the Phillies. Not the same upside as Peterson,

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick. The injuries, like we said, just don't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>want to stop for this team. Ben Brown, we got

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<v Speaker 1>the news probably right after we came up to the

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<v Speaker 1>press box. That was Wednesday pregame. We'd already gotten news

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<v Speaker 1>about Edward Cabrera. Obviously we saw it happen. Ben Brown out.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't really have a timeline. I think we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>more news possibly today. He's going to see the dot

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<v Speaker 1>He went to see the doctors in Chicago, I think

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday Wednesday. But it's an that issue and it could

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<v Speaker 1>be the same thing as before, which was an osteoma

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<v Speaker 1>with basically like this benign tumor bone tumor and it

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<v Speaker 1>causes pain. He's had it since the start in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>I think June thirteenth, but he's been able to pitch

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<v Speaker 1>through it. Wasn't able to get through his bullpen on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>and now he's on the il. He's been amazing for

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<v Speaker 1>this team. We've talked a lot about him. He deserves

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of props for the changes he's made out

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<v Speaker 1>of that sinker, using his change up more both effective pitches.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a four pitch pitcher now, very good upside is

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<v Speaker 1>starting to be reached, really impressive. And this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is a huge blow. This is a this is one

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<v Speaker 1>that it's going to be hard for this team if

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<v Speaker 1>he's out for a significant period of time. Oh sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go, there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>This uh, this pitching Steve. This is where things get

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<v Speaker 3>get dicey, like when you wonder what are they doing

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<v Speaker 3>in the sixth seventh faith innings, or if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>like council's decisions here and there, it's like, well those

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<v Speaker 3>could have been Ben Brown's high leverage opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>And but obviously he's still getting the rotation.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so much more upside there you get, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>him moving into rotation, and he was We did our

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<v Speaker 3>mid season grades the other day and.

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<v Speaker 2>He was one of the few like A level.

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<v Speaker 3>Performers, and you know, it's it's been really hard, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>trying to map the stuff out. I feel like you

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<v Speaker 3>and I we talk about story ideas a lot. We

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<v Speaker 3>try to collect things and anticipate.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wrote something on Ben Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>Right before that San Francisco start, or of just like

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<v Speaker 3>they're treating him with a lot of caution, like you

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<v Speaker 3>want to see how it goes. Okay, he has one

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<v Speaker 3>good spot start fine, all right, he puts together a

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<v Speaker 3>couple Oh wow, like another guy gets injured. Like he

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<v Speaker 3>is not only at the front of this rotation, he

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<v Speaker 3>has a legitimate all star case, especially when you look

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<v Speaker 3>at you know, how how those teams are selected, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, guys getting injured, guys backing out saying they

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<v Speaker 3>can't pitch, like he was on his own worthy of it,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you add all that other stuff in. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't have been shocked for him to go back

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<v Speaker 3>to Philadelphia, the organization that drafted him and around that

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<v Speaker 3>lo longer exists, would have been an amazing story. And

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<v Speaker 3>now it feels like everything is sort of on hold.

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<v Speaker 3>When I was researching that story, I was like, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>what was that thing he had? And you wrote about

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<v Speaker 3>it in like the following spring training like it was

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<v Speaker 3>really sort of mysterious. It was kept under wraps. We

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<v Speaker 3>didn't really get a very good explanation. Really until you

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<v Speaker 3>got him in Mesa the following year. I had to

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<v Speaker 3>link to that story and just an unusual situation. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know how many more of these blows the

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<v Speaker 3>staff can withstand. But I do think this is I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going back to those mid season grades again of like,

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<v Speaker 3>they went out and won three games against the Mets,

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<v Speaker 3>and if they can tread water and make it to

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<v Speaker 3>the All Star Break in a decent position, I think

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<v Speaker 3>there'll be a you know, big time credit to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the front office and the coaching staff for keeping things

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<v Speaker 3>on track. And you know, once you get past that

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<v Speaker 3>All Star break, then it's like, okay, reinforcements should be

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<v Speaker 3>coming at the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I know they get a lot of criticism for the

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<v Speaker 1>struggles that they've had. They had a lot of depth

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<v Speaker 1>in the pitching staff to start the season. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot plan for six starters to be on the IL.

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<v Speaker 1>You can try, but I mean that's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>starters to hit the IL. You just cannot have that

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<v Speaker 1>many quality starting pitchers, and a lot of the depth

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<v Speaker 1>that they had didn't work out in a sense. Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>Wiggins has heard Kyle Wright, who they took a flyer

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<v Speaker 1>on lets. Sometimes you're not going to get guys that

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<v Speaker 1>are fully healthy to sign to be your thirteenth starter,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So you kind of have

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<v Speaker 1>to take flyers on guys and hope they work their

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<v Speaker 1>way back. And in an ideal scenario, Kyle Wright would

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<v Speaker 1>be ready in June. He had a setback in April

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever and probably is not going to pitch this season.

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<v Speaker 1>Those types of things happen, and those are the types

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<v Speaker 1>of guys you have for depth because you cannot, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you're not going to go sign anyone great.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing I keep seeing is like, what's wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with the training staff? Look, I think the company to

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<v Speaker 1>evaluate all those things, absolutely, but these last two injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Ben Brown is into training staff issue, isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a training staff issue? And I just don't like none

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<v Speaker 1>of these It's not like we're seeing a pattern of

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<v Speaker 1>everyone having the same issue and everyone's elbow blowing out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not to say they shouldn't look into it and

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<v Speaker 1>try and figure out if they're doing anything wrong. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think this is a ton of bad luck happening,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of it is you know, you've gotten some

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<v Speaker 1>injury prone guys. I mean, Kate Horton. They drafted a

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<v Speaker 1>guy coming off like that they knew was coming off.

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy John surgery. You know, you want to look at

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson Wiggins. That's a guy that was injured when they

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<v Speaker 1>drafted him. Edward Cabrera has a long injury history, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know that. But it's also just part of pitching.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know if there's blame to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>throw around here, but I do think they do. They

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<v Speaker 1>do deserve some credit for, you know, kind of treading

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<v Speaker 1>water so far, and if they can really get through

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<v Speaker 1>the All Star break, that's that's when it's impressive. We'll see,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see how this weekend goes as as well. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break and come back and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>what happened with Carrera.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was Edward Kaber running to cover first base

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<v Speaker 1>in the with two outs in the fifth inning. He

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<v Speaker 1>had looked shaky at times, but bounced back nicely and

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<v Speaker 1>had only given up two runs. Stretches to make a

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<v Speaker 1>play because it was one of those balls that went

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<v Speaker 1>in between Bush and Horner and Nico made the play.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a tough play. It was a bang bang play.

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<v Speaker 1>He had to stretch to make it. I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that like when I watched him, he kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like jumped up and like was almost like trying to

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<v Speaker 1>will himself like I'm not in pain. This doesn't hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>and like had to crumple to the ground and couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>really carry his weight. Like it was like he was

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<v Speaker 1>like that initial move. I was like, oh, maybe he's

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<v Speaker 1>okay because he kind of like hopped up and you thought, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he felt a little something, but he's good. He's just

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<v Speaker 1>like testing it out and it was instant like going

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<v Speaker 1>back to the ground. Craig Counsel's reaction was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like like dropping his head, like really again. Another one

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<v Speaker 1>that was I think I can't remember his pitch gump,

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<v Speaker 1>but my guess is that was probably it for Cabrera too.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just like these types of things. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>showed a covering first last year that happened and that

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<v Speaker 1>was a huge blow. The hamstring. This is also being

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<v Speaker 1>called a hamstring. They're not giving us a timeline. I

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<v Speaker 1>heard a little more severe than Tye On, so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit longer than him, but not significantly. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's the initial hope. I think we'll get more information

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<v Speaker 1>as the days go and we have a clearer plan

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<v Speaker 1>for how we'll come back. But this is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know Edward Cabrera hasn't been living up to the

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<v Speaker 1>hype just yet, but this is just I mean, just

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<v Speaker 1>keeps the gut punches, just keep coming for this team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and at least Cabrera is a capable, competent major

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<v Speaker 3>league picture, Like, there's no question about that. He hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>been as good as a Cub soaped it's left a

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<v Speaker 3>lot to be desired. But to me someone you'd want

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<v Speaker 3>to just keep going out there in the hopes that

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<v Speaker 3>it does click because the stuff, his physicality, all of

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<v Speaker 3>it is very impressive. And I guess if you're an optimist,

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<v Speaker 3>you know you can look at that kind of August

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<v Speaker 3>September playoff push that maybe the Cubs will have a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of pictures come off injured list and get healthy

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<v Speaker 3>and be relatively fresh. But again, gonna there's a long

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<v Speaker 3>way to go to just get there. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>this is you know, why that ten game losing streak

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<v Speaker 3>was so frustrating of just like it just felt like

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<v Speaker 3>they immediately gave their margin for error right back that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if you oh gratued. They had a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of crazy walk off wins too, So like maybe they

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<v Speaker 3>are kind of where they deserve.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you if you just.

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<v Speaker 3>Were able to shorten that extended skid just a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you'd have a little more maneuverability. If the

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<v Speaker 3>Brewers weren't as good as they've been this year, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you might feel slightly better about things. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>just really it goes back to what we talked about

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<v Speaker 3>it before you've written it for the athletic of just

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<v Speaker 3>so many logical offseason moves for the Cubs just have

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<v Speaker 3>not panned out yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the offense is starting to pick up,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what they need. They need the offense to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of carry them. Right now, maybe we'll see that

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be really like or maybe we're just

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<v Speaker 1>seeing them feast on lesser pitching, but uh, they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to obviously be tested this weekend. Three really good pitchers Misowski,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Harrison, and I believe Brandon Woodruff is going Game three.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's I mean, the first two are our studs

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<v Speaker 1>this season. They've been absolutely brilliant and they dominated the

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<v Speaker 1>Cubs the first time they face them, so it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to it's not going to be an easy weekend and

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<v Speaker 1>it could be a disheartening one for Cubs fans. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that first series can that was like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>right in the middle of the ten game losing streak. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember if it started it or if it

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<v Speaker 1>was right in the middle of it, but it it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of was an exclam point as far as

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<v Speaker 1>like this team is a much better than the Cubs

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<v Speaker 1>right now. They kind of emphasize that we'll see if

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<v Speaker 1>that's still the case, if the Cubs offense can can

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<v Speaker 1>put up some runs against these guys. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>how you build confidence and say this is how we

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<v Speaker 1>get through this. Our pitching is going to take some bits.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't even talked about the bullpen. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>bullpen's really shaky right now. I don't feel confident in

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<v Speaker 1>anyone going out there and having a clean inning. It's

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<v Speaker 1>almost like they have to just like build up a

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<v Speaker 1>big enough lead and hope it's not given up. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what the last few games have been.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see how rough it gets. They have kind

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<v Speaker 1>of got caught up in a sense like it had

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<v Speaker 1>gotten some of these wins back with this mini winning

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<v Speaker 1>streak here, this stretch here, I think this is the

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<v Speaker 1>first time they're six games over five hundred since like

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<v Speaker 1>like may I may be wrong on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I look this up.

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<v Speaker 1>It was during the ten game losing streak, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a little bit since they've been to this point.

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<v Speaker 1>They need to just try and stack some series wins,

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<v Speaker 1>eek out some wins against the Brewers if they can,

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<v Speaker 1>and hope and hope they get healthy at all start break.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's their best bet, no doubt. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's wrap this up. This is Northside Territory. Make sure

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