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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on my listening to my show.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I am row Shawn McDonald. I host

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Speaker 1: click the b a Guest button. Now let's get this

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Speaker 1: show started. My guest is the co founder of Melanin Money.

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Speaker 1: Melanon Money, He's gonna correct it if I'm saying is wrong,

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Speaker 1: and also a CPA who empowers individuals to achieve financial freedom.

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Speaker 1: He's recognized as one of the top financial planners for

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Speaker 1: millennials by showing them how to live tax free. His

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Speaker 1: mission is to help the black community become financially independent

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Speaker 1: and build generational wealth. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass.

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Speaker 1: Carter Cofield. How you doing, Carter?

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Speaker 2: Amazing brother. Thank you so much for having me. I'm

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Speaker 2: excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: Please announciate the name of your company that you co founded.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, melon In Money, you said it correctly, Okay, cool?

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Speaker 1: Now why did you co found that company.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so a few reasons. So number one is we

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Speaker 2: wanted to super serve our community and people that look

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Speaker 2: like us. Right when I was working in Corporate America,

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Speaker 2: I was doing taxes for like, well see people in

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Speaker 2: Fortune five hundred companies, which was cool, but it wasn't fulfilling,

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Speaker 2: especially as a kid that grew up on the South

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Speaker 2: Side of Chicago. So I had a friend of mine

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Speaker 2: who's not my business partner, and he was an amazing

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Speaker 2: financial advisor and I'm an amazing CPA. And we kept

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Speaker 2: sending clients back and forth to each other. Like, my

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Speaker 2: clients save on taxes, they would want to learn how

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Speaker 2: to invest it. His clients was investing. They want to

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Speaker 2: learn how to save on taxes. So instead up sending

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Speaker 2: clients back and forth to each other, we just decided

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Speaker 2: to come together and come up with a financial services

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Speaker 2: firm that helps business owner to save on taxes and

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Speaker 2: invest their money.

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Speaker 1: Now, now you like, I'm just telling everybody it. He's

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Speaker 1: like a superstar, y'all. He's like this got He's not

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Speaker 1: a regular CPA. And I say that in a very complimented,

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Speaker 1: complimentary manner because I've seen him he's very uh, he's uh,

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Speaker 1: he's very People gravitate to him. He's very articulate. He's like,

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Speaker 1: it's a clear understanding of his business model. Why why

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Speaker 1: why is that happening for you? You know, because your

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Speaker 1: CPA boring, you know, adding up numbers? How did you

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Speaker 1: build your brand to become what I see it as

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Speaker 1: today and promote the success stories of finance of people

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Speaker 1: who want to make money, because that's what you do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I had to look myself in the mirror

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Speaker 2: it didn't start out that way because I worked in

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Speaker 2: corporate America and I was told to cut off my

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Speaker 2: I was told to not drive my nice car to

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Speaker 2: than them. So I dealt with a lot of imposter

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Speaker 2: and I decided to leave my firm and start my

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Speaker 2: a really fun, energetic, extroverted extrovert who loves teaching people

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Speaker 2: I decided to show my personality. And it was scary

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Speaker 1: Smile when I hear you talk because I know who

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Speaker 1: you are as an individual. I've seen you, and you're

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Speaker 1: absolutely correct. I've worked in the corporate space and you

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Speaker 1: But youre courageous enough to look in the mirror without fear,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I believe that you know, you have really

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Speaker 1: It's really interesting when I was reading your story and

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Speaker 1: How you looked at money, how you looked at your future.

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Speaker 1: I tell everybody, if everybody, if I'm alive, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: as I reflect on it, the gift in that adversity

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Speaker 2: You know, the earlier you start, the better chances you

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Speaker 2: not scared to quit your job and start a business

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Speaker 2: because you already had the worst possible thing happened to

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Speaker 2: table stakes. So my ability to take on risk is

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Speaker 2: And so when I approached when I approach life, like

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Speaker 2: things like, oh, that's risky, but like, nothing's risky than

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Speaker 2: what I've already been through. So I just would encourage

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Speaker 1: It's really amazing now. When I was reading in the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So when my father passed away, he had his

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Speaker 2: And I just remember like that was when my money

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Speaker 2: learning journey started because I was like, Yo, this five thousand,

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Speaker 2: This five thousand dollars is my broke, right, Like, I

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Speaker 2: life insurance because when you're going through a death in

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Speaker 2: that is worrying about paying bills. Death is enough, right,

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Speaker 2: So the value of life insurance in the way I

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Speaker 2: more profound because I actually had an experience where the

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Speaker 2: life insurance proceeds did have a significant effect on my life,

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Speaker 2: even though it wasn't that much, right.

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Speaker 1: You know. But the whole thing about your story is

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Speaker 1: that each each time you talk is about moving forward,

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Speaker 1: One of his theories is which I enjoyed talking to him,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I believe that health is wealth and wealth

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Speaker 2: Some people only eat fast food because that's what they

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Speaker 1: It's really interesting when I when I listen to you

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is coming back to Atlanta July eighteenth through

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Speaker 1: I would not describe it, but I would tell you

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, You're absolutely correct?

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Speaker 1: And what caused you two? Now I'm only talking to you,

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Speaker 2: Correct, Absolutely, absolutely so. The thesis of the Award Show

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Speaker 2: So we have awards people hitting it at first, one

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Speaker 1: Well, it shows and that's why I want to make

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you go to Meloninmoney Awards dot com melton

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Speaker 1: Now here's the cool thing about it. You go to

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Speaker 2: It's very empowering to watch my tears and my colleagues

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Speaker 2: It's just amazing to see that, you know, people that

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, when we talk about money, we talk

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think most people don't have the best

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Speaker 2: So generational wealth is having the wealth that you've accumulated

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Speaker 1: Ladion Jenlemen, my guess is a superstar. He's a superstar

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Speaker 1: in this business, a CPA who empowers individual to achieve

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Speaker 1: financial freedom. Between now and the award show, what are you?

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna be doing now? Card? Where are

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: Who are you making rich? Talk to me, bro, talk

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not traveling for a little while, I lived

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Speaker 1: So, my brother, I really appreciate, appreciate you taking you know.

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Speaker 1: I've reached out to you in Chicago. Coach Chicago, So

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Speaker 1: can you come on with show car you said, I'm

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Speaker 1: continue to grow and I will see you in July.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yes, sir, thank you for having me brother, have

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Speaker 2: a great day.

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