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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. My name is Rob.

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Speaker 3: Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick. And today we got a

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Speaker 3: firecracker for you. We're going to be talking about message

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Speaker 3: from Space. So I suggested doing this on the show

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Speaker 3: after I think it was like a week or two ago,

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Speaker 3: there was one night where I was cooking and we

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Speaker 3: just wanted to put on a movie on mute, and

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Speaker 3: we were looking around for various space operas and this

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Speaker 3: option came up, this nineteen seventy eight Japanese space opera movie.

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Speaker 3: It looked kind of interesting, so we set it going

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Speaker 3: and it was just a powerful and beautiful assault on

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Speaker 3: the eyes of disco colors, variety show atmosphere and powerful

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Speaker 3: adventures in space. And I was so excited to go

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Speaker 3: back and actually watch it and it did not disappoint.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a perfect selection for a weird house cinema. Now,

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Speaker 2: some of you might be asking, what is weird house Cinema.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you've seen it popping up in the feed of

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Speaker 2: Stuff to Blow your Mind to Science and Culture podcast. Well,

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Speaker 2: it is a late Friday night celebration of weird films

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Speaker 2: and maybe a dash of science and culture as well.

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Speaker 2: You can think of these episodes as the mysterious space

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Speaker 2: nuts cast off into a science and culture podcast feed

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Speaker 2: as a call to adventure for weird film fans.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so let's start with the elevator pitch on message

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Speaker 3: from space? What's the deal with this movie?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Is a nineteen seventy eight a Japanese space opera

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Speaker 2: falling hot on the heels of nineteen seventy seven Star Wars,

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Speaker 2: and basically this is the plot in the Andromeda Galaxy,

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Speaker 2: the peaceful planet of Jelusia has been conquered by the

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Speaker 2: warrior Gavanas Empire, who then turned the planet into a

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Speaker 2: weapon like turn it into a spaceship. The Glusians are peaceful,

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Speaker 2: but they need some help. So what do they do?

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Speaker 2: They cast out eight space nuts what are they? Liabe

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Speaker 2: seeds to call forth the warriors who will save them

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Speaker 2: and ultimately save the Earth as well.

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Speaker 3: There is so much examining of nuts in this movie,

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Speaker 3: people just holding nuts up to the light and talking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's important to note that these nuts glow

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Speaker 2: and with magic. These nuts also just randomly appear. You

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Speaker 2: might be about to eat a tomato and whoa, there's

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Speaker 2: suddenly a space nut in there. You're drinking your eighth

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I think we should start with the obvious thing,

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Speaker 3: which is that this is a ripoff of Star Wars.

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Speaker 3: This came out in nineteen seventy eight. But it's more

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Speaker 3: than a ripoff of Star Wars. It's also a very

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Speaker 3: zesty expression of sets and costumes and disco love and

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Speaker 3: it has a fabulous energy to it. But it is

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Speaker 3: a ripoff of Star Wars. Like so many other films

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Speaker 3: in the late seventies, after Star Wars came out You've

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Speaker 3: Got a Star Crash one of my favorites, there were

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Speaker 3: a lot of different Star Wars clones created in different

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Speaker 3: countries around the world. There's famously Turkish Star Wars. I

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Speaker 2: Battlestar Galactica can kind of be thrown into this general category. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it is important to compare it to these

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Speaker 2: other films, because, for instance, Turkish Star Wars is a

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Speaker 2: Crash is a lot of fun. This one, Let's see

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Speaker 2: It had David Hasselhoff, Christopher Plummer, Caroline Monroe in it.

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Speaker 2: But it's entertaining, but it also just feels kind of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the script feels very much like a first draft.

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Speaker 3: There's a great scene where the movie has Marjo Gortner

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Speaker 3: I don't know, as a space hero who's got like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a It's a fun film in and of itself,

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it definitely gets close when you're getting

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's also a there's a particular musical number that

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Speaker 2: Maybe too close, I don't know, it feels just way

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, The very opening of this movie of mess

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Speaker 3: It's from Space, begins with the Princess Leiah theme from

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Speaker 3: I think there are a certain type of sci fi

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Speaker 3: same way the sets of the Cabinet of Doctor Kaligari are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And and I'll say two other things. One about

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Speaker 3: Yes, if you throw all together Star Wars, Disco seventies

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Speaker 2: I'll also say that all of the acting in this

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Speaker 3: Oh? Well, you know, in the classic story, you would

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Speaker 2: Yeah, meanwhile, message from space. Most of the film is

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Sonny Cheeba doesn't show up until like twenty

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Speaker 3: like a really really sad just abuse of sunny Chiba.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know it works.

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Speaker 2: Nonetheless, well, before we get into a more detailed discussion

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Speaker 2: we have just a little splash of the trailer audio.

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Speaker 4: Here from a captive planet two million light years away

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Speaker 4: came a desperate plea for help message runs space on

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Speaker 4: the verge of extinction. The leader of the persecuted Delusians

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Speaker 4: sends his beautiful granddaughter, who finds the eight legendary brave

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Speaker 4: adventurers go alone can stop the annihilation.

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Speaker 2: Do you know where ever it is?

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Speaker 3: You know where ever lead is?

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Speaker 4: What you doing now? I'm a human being from the

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Speaker 4: planet never before, As the screen erupted with more specta,

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Speaker 4: more excitement, an international cast headed by Vic Morrole.

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Speaker 4: All it, Babel one can do it.

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Speaker 3: Just to see it again and chosen by the Goods.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it comes through in the trailer,

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Speaker 2: Who? It's a question that may arise during the viewing

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Speaker 3: This is funny because it hits on the two big ones.

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Speaker 2: That would be That would be wonderful. There's so much

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Speaker 2: And it's centered around a scooty thing you do with

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Speaker 3: show up until toward the end, and even then he

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00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 3: doesn't get a lot of close ups and he's behind

436
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 3: a lot of just equipment that's around his face. I

437
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 3: just feel like, you know, you have Sonny Chiba on cast,

438
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 3: you should you should give him a little more, a

439
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 3: little more intimacy.

440
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it does make no mistake. Sonny Chiba is

441
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 2: Slash was an international martial arts star. Like he was

442
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: very much a guy who made a huge name for

443
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: himself in Japan and then that and then then was

444
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: able to cross over into America. Like One film of

445
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 2: note is nineteen seventy four's The Street Fighter, which went

446
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 2: on to become like a big grindhouse hit in the

447
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: United States. It's notable for a number of reasons, mainly

448
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 2: because it's just Sonny cheeba, you know, kicking butt the

449
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: whole time, but it features X ray finishing moves where

450
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: like he punches somebody and then it's and then it's

451
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: an X ray footage of that skull cracking, which is fabulous.

452
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: This is something that I think would much later get

453
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 2: picked up by the Mortal Kombat video game. That's used

454
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 2: in other films as well. But it's a great special.

455
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 3: Effect that's really good. Now. One of the other performances

456
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 3: that I would like to call out from this movie

457
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 3: is the actress playing Princess Maya, Peggy Lee Brennan, who

458
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 3: didn't really do much else. I looked her up. She

459
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 3: was in an episode of Mash, she was in a

460
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 3: few movies. She didn't have a very extensive film career,

461
00:25:53,840 --> 00:26:00,959
Speaker 3: but she has the most joyful, rambunctious Penny Marshall Laverne

462
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 3: Chipmunk energy in this movie.

463
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be my favorite performance in the film.

464
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: It's very spunky, and like all the performances, it feels

465
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 2: like the character is consistently just a little bit too drunk,

466
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: but in a good way. Like every time she's on

467
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: the screen, there's this this kind of manic energy that

468
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: that that works really well.

469
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 3: She likes.

470
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: She brings an energy to the to the room or

471
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 2: the spaceship cockpit, whichever it may be. Oftentimes in this

472
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 2: film you have to stop and ask yourself, am I

473
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: supposed to be in space right now? Because you'll feel

474
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: like you're in a in like an overly decorated home

475
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 2: room in a high school, or or you know, or

476
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: some other strange location. But any rate, anytime Peggy ly

477
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 2: Brennan is in the room, it's it's gonna be fun.

478
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 3: Peggy le Brennan is never on the mix setting. She

479
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 3: is always on the liquefy setting. Yeah.

480
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 2: Now, another star of note, a huge star of Japanese

481
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: cinema and also a crossover star in this is hero

482
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: Yuki Sonata, playing Shiro the rough Rider, one of the

483
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: two basically one of the two Luke Skywalkers in the film. Yes,

484
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: he would go on to become a major Japanese star.

485
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: He starred in such major Western productions as The Wolverine.

486
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 2: He's in HBO's West World, He's in Sunshine, He's an

487
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: Avengers Endgame, he is going to play Scorpion in the

488
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: next Mortal Kombat movie that they are making. And the

489
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: crazy Thing about him is you look up pictures of

490
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 2: him and he's like, you know, super handsome Japanese actor.

491
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 2: He is sixty years old and it looks like he's

492
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 2: maybe thirty five or something. You know, this guy has

493
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: to be a vampire. That's my only guess.

494
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: He drank from the Kiyanu fountain.

495
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Sonata is Yeah, he's keeping it together. He

496
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: is my new aging hero, like I want to age

497
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 2: like Sonata does.

498
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like maybe it's time to jump into

499
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: a full breakdown of the plot to the extent that

500
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 3: that's possible, because this movie is, like I said, it's

501
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 3: very fun, it's a feast for the eyes, but the

502
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 3: plot is borderline incomprehensible. I tried to pay close attention

503
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: so I could explain what's happening, but it's rough.

504
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 2: Yeah I have. I watched this with my wife the

505
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 2: other day and we did an Amazon Prime watch party

506
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: where we invited some folks from the Stuff to Blow

507
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: your Mind a discussion module to join us. You know,

508
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: whoever was available to on short notice and had the

509
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,719
Speaker 2: necessary technologies and accounts to do so. So we had

510
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: a handful of people in there and consistently the question

511
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: that came up was what is happening? What right? And

512
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: then also just trying to keep count of how many

513
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: space nuts were supposed to be sent out, how many

514
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: had actually been received, and then how many had been accepted.

515
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 3: So, okay, okay, sort of luck.

516
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: And breaking this down, Joe, I wish you luck.

517
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: Well, you've got to come with me. I'm not going

518
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 3: to do it alone.

519
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: I'll try and help, but you know, it's it's it's

520
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: more of a stream of consciousness sort of thing.

521
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay. So we're gonna start at the beginning,

522
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 3: the beginning of this film. As we've said, we open

523
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: with the Princess Leiah theme from Star Wars. It's just

524
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: playing the Star Wars music and then you get this

525
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: bone rattling, deep voice narration that's kind of Don Lafontaine

526
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: meets James Earl Jones. It sounded so familiar to me.

527
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: I was like, I know, I have heard this voice before.

528
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: And then you called out what who it might be?

529
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but did you look this up?

530
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: I haven't looked it up, but there's this I mean

531
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: I've looked I've looked it up in the past. But

532
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: basically there was this cool mix that I came across

533
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: several years ago, that that took some audio samples from

534
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: an old Solar System documentary in which this very smooth,

535
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: velvety voice is talking about the rings of Saturn.

536
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 3: It sounds exactly like the same guy, so I really

537
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: wonder if it's the same narrator. But anyway, the narrator

538
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 3: explains the situation here almost as if the opening narration

539
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: could have been a text crawl that goes across the screen.

540
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 3: And so what's covered in this narration, Well, we find

541
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: out that what you're looking at at the beginning is

542
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: the planet Jelusia, which I have to say does not

543
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: look inhabitable. It looks like a rocky hell without an atmosphere.

544
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: It reminds me of the caves of Mars in Santa

545
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: Claus versus the Martians, because you also have an old

546
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: guy who's a lot like Chochum in Santa Claus versus

547
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: the Martians. You know who. In Santa Claus versus the Martians,

548
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: he's talking about the children of Mars. They have no

549
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: Santa And in this he's talking about all the bad

550
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: stuff that the Govnant the Govanas are doing to them.

551
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: Right so the Govanas are bad. They have conquered the

552
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 3: planet Jelusia. We're told that the Govanas are steel skinned,

553
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 3: so we mentioned earlier they're like stormtroopers, but instead of

554
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 3: white armor, got this like metal and green armor.

555
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: And silver paint on their skin.

556
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 3: Yes. Yes, And then there is a tribe of people

557
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: who wear wreaths on their heads just like leaves, and

558
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: I guess these are supposed to be the Jelusians. They're

559
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: kind of space druids in a way.

560
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:17,239
Speaker 2: Uh.

561
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 3: They don't like being conquered by the Govanas. I think

562
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: maybe the Govanas are going to kill them eventually. I

563
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: wasn't exactly clear on that, but they want to get

564
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: rid of their Gavana problem. So their leader is a

565
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: guy I think named Keto. He's also just called grandfather,

566
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 3: so usually he's grandfather. This is character, yes, and the

567
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 3: elder explains that their only hope is to throw eight

568
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: magic nuts into space and these eight magic nuts are

569
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: called liabe Seeds, and they will seek out heroes who

570
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 3: can help the Jelusians fight for their freedom. And a

571
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: couple of the Jelusians go out to follow the magic

572
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: nuts I guess to figure out who they're seeking out,

573
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 3: and these Jelusians who followed them are Princess Emmerlita and

574
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: a strong young fighter named Uraco, and they fly off

575
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: in a space ship that looks like it could be

576
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: like the Santa Maria. It's a wooden galleon with masts

577
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: and rigging, which is a great.

578
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 2: Choice, straight up a wooden sailing ship. Yeah, flying through space.

579
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: It's one of the just it is one of the

580
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: truly weird and wonderful choices in this movie. To make

581
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: one of the space ships be a ship, be a

582
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: sailing vessel.

583
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: One thing that I think is very interesting. A ripoff

584
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 3: choice that was made here was to take the Princess

585
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: Lea character from Star Wars and just split her character

586
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 3: in half into two different characters. So what are the

587
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 3: characteristics of Lea and Star Wars. Well, she sort of

588
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: has two different faces she presents to the world. One

589
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: is the sort of sort of passive, elegant, you know,

590
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: white robe, headgear, soft spoken, and then her other half

591
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: is she's a tough, spunky fighter who sticks up for Well,

592
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 3: what they did is they just split that into two

593
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: different characters. So Princess emmer Aalita is wearing a long

594
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: white robe, and she's very sedated. She you know, seems

595
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: to be on Xanax or something. And then the other

596
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: half is the character Maya in this movie, who is

597
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: the tough, spunky fighter half of Princess Leah. And I

598
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: wonder what prompted that decision to just like make it

599
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 3: two characters instead of one.

600
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: M Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I didn't think

601
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: about this as much when I was watching it, because

602
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: certainly the princess imer Alita is is kind of your

603
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: stereotypical princess character.

604
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: You know, she just needs rescuing.

605
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, she just needs rescuing, She needs help, and she

606
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: reacts to things going on around her and otherwise doesn't

607
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: really affect the plot all that much, while while the

608
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: other character that the Maya is going to be, you know,

609
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: far more action oriented.

610
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's the end of the garbage fly boy half

611
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 3: of La. Yeah. So then we meet the real bad guys,

612
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 3: the Govanas. As we've explained, great costumes, storm troopers with

613
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: horned helmets, all that stuff. Their leader, Rock Saya, is

614
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: some kind of king. They refer to him as your majesty.

615
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 3: We've talked about his amazing horseshoe crab helmet, it's got

616
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 3: the legs sticking out the side. And Darth Crabhead here

617
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: is very angry that the space galleyon is leaving Jelucia,

618
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: and he explains, and I wrote this quote down, I

619
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: know they're going out of the universe to seek help. Whoa,

620
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: they're going there out of the universe.

621
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: There are a lot of moments in this film where

622
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: I feel like there is either some confusion or some

623
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 2: translation issues concerning galaxy, Solar System, and universe. Yes, what

624
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: things are are you capable of exiting and injuring? And

625
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: which ones even make sense in a far future space opera?

626
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 3: Yes, I think it doesn't really make sense in this movie,

627
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 3: But somebody should make a movie about characters who go

628
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 3: out of the universe to seek help. Oh, but then

629
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,959
Speaker 3: we haven't mentioned this character yet. After this, we meet

630
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: the who for me is maybe actually the absolute star

631
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 3: of the film, the greatest of all time, Darth Crabhead's mother,

632
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 3: who is also painted silver and red. She has no teeth.

633
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 3: She likes to like call about things. Darth Crabhead and

634
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 3: mother are essentially giving a speech about how together we

635
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 3: will bring order to the galaxy.

636
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a wonderful and weird choice that I

637
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: can only I can only imagine is drawing upon some

638
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: existing tropes in Japanese storytelling in Japanese cinema. I don't know.

639
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 2: I like I say, I'm not an expert on Japanese

640
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 2: film by any stretch, but I know we do see.

641
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you see a lot of witch like characters

642
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: and wise old women and dangerous wise old women show

643
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: up in stories around the world. But you know, I think,

644
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: I think of how you often see this trope in

645
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: Miyazaki films, generally oftentimes on both sides, where you have

646
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 2: the good and the bad duality represented in old women.

647
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 2: So so I don't know this. Yeah, this grandmother is

648
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: very interesting though, because she she kind of has that

649
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: Bobby Yaga look with a big fake nose blue to

650
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 2: her face, and she has the most awesome death metal

651
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: wheelchair I've ever seen. It seems to be made out

652
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: of of bleached xenomorph bones and is made for gladiatorial combat.

653
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: It's wonderful, It's really good. There are actually a couple

654
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 3: of evil crones in this movie. We'll get to another

655
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 3: one in a bit, But so Okay, So after all that,

656
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 3: we meet the we meet the heroes of Julusia, we

657
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: meet the bad guys. Then we cut to somewhere else.

658
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 3: I think it's some other planet. It's not Earth, it's

659
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: somewhere I don't remember the name of it. You cut

660
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: to a rich girl in a luxury spaceship, and this

661
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 3: is finally Maya. I don't think she's actually a princess,

662
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: but she's kind of a princess because she is like

663
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: the heiress to a fortune. She's got a very rich

664
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,959
Speaker 3: father who I don't think we ever meet.

665
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: But in a way, it's kind of fitting that. Like

666
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: she's a Western style princess. So she's not an actual princess.

667
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: She just comes from privilege and money.

668
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. But she's in her luxury spaceship which is

669
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 3: being chauffeured around through space, and she looks out the

670
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: window and sees space fireflies. I think we're told that

671
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 3: they're actually radioactive atomic dust. That's what the attendant says.

672
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: So you catch him in your hand, is what you did, right?

673
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: They do that later, and then the luxury ship gets

674
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 3: buzzed by a couple of cocky space racers that are

675
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: known as rough Riders. Basically again, these are a couple

676
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 3: of guys from the Fast and the Furious franchise but

677
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: in space and their names are Aaron and Shiro.

678
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Hiro of course is played by Sonata and

679
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: the other one. I looked him up. He's basically an

680
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: American or a Western actor that they had some other credits,

681
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: but not you know, clearly I didn't add him to

682
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: the notes, so he didn't impress.

683
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 3: Me all that much. Yeah, he didn't really stick in

684
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: the mind. No offense if you're listening. But Mayo, we

685
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: find out, is also a rough rider at heart. Because

686
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 3: she does not want to be sitting there in the

687
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: Chauffeur luxury spaceship. She tries to grab the wheel and

688
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: like race around with the other two guys. As I

689
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 3: said earlier, she has a very For some reason, she

690
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,479
Speaker 3: really reminded me of Penny Marshall from Laverne and Shirley. Yeah.

691
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 3: But anyway, the rough riders, Aerin and Shiro end up

692
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 3: crashing their ships while they are playing chicken with the

693
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: space police. And when the two of them get they

694
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: like jump out of their ships with fire extinguishers and

695
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 3: start yea dousing them and they examined the hulls of

696
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: their crash ships, and they find what there are magic

697
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: nuts inside our ships, so they've each got a magic nut.

698
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: Then we cut to somewhere else entirely. I don't know

699
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 3: if this other place is supposed to be Earth or

700
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: some other planet. I'm not sure what it is. But

701
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: we meet Vic Morrow now now again. Try to picture

702
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: a gruff, mustachioed, hard drinking sort of Carl from Aquitine General.

703
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, the hard drinking is key, because I feel like

704
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: almost every scene he's in he is is he he's nursing,

705
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: you know, a finger of Scotch or bourbon or something,

706
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: has some sort of a dark amber liquid in a

707
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 2: glass that he has almost finished.

708
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: He's general getting hammered, and he's in the middle of

709
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 3: conducting a rocket launch. That is is we find out

710
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 3: a funeral for a robot. Yes, yes, so his his

711
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 3: first robot was named Beba one, and somehow this robot

712
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: was destroyed. But he loves and cares for Beba one,

713
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 3: and so he put Beba One's robot corpse into this

714
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 3: spaceship to send it into space to become a satellite

715
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: that's orbiting the planet. A sort of as a Viking

716
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 3: funeral for his dead robot. He keeps it. He always

717
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: pronounces it robot.

718
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like Zoidberg does in Futurama.

719
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. But then he also he gets chewed out by

720
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 3: the high command. They're like, what a wasteful use of

721
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 3: a rocket to just give a funeral to a robot.

722
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: No one cares about robots. You have done wrong. But

723
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 3: this doesn't.

724
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: He loves robots. He is a friend of robot kind

725
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: is Beba too points out, and I got the sense

726
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: more than friends. I feel like like there's yes, there's

727
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 2: a romance.

728
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, Beba. So he's got a new robot.

729
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 3: It's Beba too. Beba one was the one that's a

730
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: satellite now and Beba two is constantly saying, like, you know,

731
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: you have done us such an honor, You've been so

732
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 3: kind to robots and so Later, General Garuda is getting

733
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 3: drunk in a bar. As we mentioned, he's getting drunk

734
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 3: in every scene he's in, and he finds a magic

735
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: nut in his whiskey. Now I have to say, also,

736
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 3: this bar that he's in is kind of the high

737
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: light of the movie. Imagine a really raunchy disco most

738
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 3: slicely cantina with variety show fire underneath it.

739
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's quite a scene. It was

740
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: one of I think it was the first scene where

741
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: we're like, oh, yeah, this this, this movie's got it

742
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 2: like this this this, this one is is definitely setting

743
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 2: itself apart from Star Wars.

744
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. And so they Gruda and Baba two go outside

745
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 3: and Baba one looks up and sees something in the

746
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 3: sky and he says, look, Beaba one has now become

747
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 3: a star. And Vick Morrow's like, eh, forget it, forget it,

748
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 3: Baba two, and Baba two says, Baba two cannot forget.

749
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 3: No robot can forget your kindness to robot kind It's wonderful. Uh.

750
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: I have to say, first of all, Baby Ta two

751
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: looks amazing in this, Yes, and like there's certainly the

752
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: Star Wars esque in its design, but it's a it's

753
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: it's a cool costume. It's you know, evidently like a

754
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: little person wearing a robot costume. But it looks really good.

755
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 2: I I totally bought it as a robot. But then

756
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 2: we have to say something about General Garuda's costuming in this,

757
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: because he's consistently in an amazing costume drifter. Well, yeah,

758
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: well sometimes he's in kind of the space admiral costume,

759
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 2: and then he puts on this enormous coat and hat

760
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: that I felt like he was. It was like he

761
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: was leaving to go try out for a role as

762
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: a as a time lord.

763
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: You know.

764
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: It had kind of a doctor flo vibe to it.

765
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: And then later he has this sil like unflattering silver

766
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: shining costume that he ends up wearing as well. But

767
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: he's he's always wearing something interesting or a little too interesting.

768
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: Oh there's one scene where he's dressed as Austin Powers,

769
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: just full of Austin Powers. It's like a oh he

770
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 3: had a neck red velvet suit with the frilly cravat. Yeah,

771
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: but so we got to go back. We got to

772
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: do it in order so somebody else finds a nut.

773
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 3: We've got to chart all of the nut findings. This

774
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: this shady guy named Jack. I don't remember how we

775
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 3: meet him. I guess he's friends with the two rough

776
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: riders who are trying to earn money now to repair

777
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 3: their ships. The shady guy named Jack is also trying

778
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: to get money. He's this dude who's dressed kind of

779
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 3: like a Fredo Corleone type in a barbershop quartet hat

780
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: and he finds a nut when he bites into a

781
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 3: tomato like an apple and cracks a tooth on a

782
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 3: nut inside. But the movie doesn't even stop to examine

783
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 3: why was he biting into a tomato like an apple?

784
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 3: Is that a thing people do?

785
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a fruit. Go for it, you know.

786
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 3: Also, I have to say about Jack. If you're picturing

787
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: anytime we say anything about Jack, you have to know

788
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 3: that when in whatever scene we're talking about, he has

789
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 3: also mentioned at least two or three times that something

790
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: is going to get them three years in space jail.

791
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: One of the endits. So Jack has consistently amusing on

792
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: an also semi obnoxious character who's clearly supposed to be

793
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: some sort of a criminal. And I think the Fredo

794
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: Corleoni comparison is totally correct. But I also feel like

795
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: this has to be I'm mostly sure that this is

796
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,959
Speaker 2: a standard character trope in Japanese cinema because I feel

797
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: like I've seen this exact character in other films. He

798
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: has a real loop in the third quality, which is

799
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: this kind of criminal or spy character you see pop

800
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 2: up in an early Miyazaki film. So I feel like

801
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: this is a stock character that we have encountered in

802
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 2: Message from Space.

803
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 3: He brings a different level of I don't know what

804
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 3: you would call it. He mugs for the camera in

805
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 3: a way that no other characters do. Nobody else like

806
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 3: makes a face straight into the camera lens. But Jack does.

807
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: And I kept expecting him to die or that he

808
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: would turn out to be like a minor adversary. But no,

809
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: he's I mean, he's got a he's got a lot

810
00:44:58,640 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: of space nuts.

811
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 3: He's good to Oh, Rob, were you doubting the nuts?

812
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: You can't deny the nuts. He's got a nut.

813
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: I doubted the nuts a lot during this film because

814
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: it didn't seem like they were working.

815
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: The longest you got to put your faith in the nuts.

816
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 3: They're not going to find somebody who's not a hero

817
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 3: of Jelusia.

818
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: May the nut be with you.

819
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 3: So for some real I can't remember why they do this,

820
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: but for some reason, some of the heroes go swimming

821
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: in space, like they fly their spaceships up to where

822
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 3: the space fireflies are, and then Maya and the two

823
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: rough Riders and maybe also Jack. I don't remember who

824
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 3: all goes, but they get out of their space ships

825
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: and then they just go swimming in space, like paddling

826
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 3: their arms, I think, not quite realizing that you can't

827
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 3: do that in space because there's nothing to push against.

828
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: I have to say. So this film does have moments

829
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: where they seem to acknowledge that, yes, you're weightless in space,

830
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: but there are moments where it seems like there's this

831
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: universal gravity in space, which I'm kind of nostalgic for.

832
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: Like I think it was episodes of ThunderCats that I

833
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 2: watched as a kid where they had some scenes where

834
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: space is treated like a place where there is a

835
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 2: firm up and down and if you're pushed out of

836
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: a spaceship, you will fall, And I kind of want

837
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: to see that explore, Like it's completely ridiculous, it has

838
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 2: no basis in actual reality, but I kind of want

839
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 2: to watch something now that is clearly set in a

840
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: universe that has this kind of wonky use of gravity.

841
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: Okay, So at this point in the movie, we are

842
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 3: sort of assembling the Nut heroes, Like all the Nut

843
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 3: heroes are getting together and meeting one another. So we

844
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 3: have Princess Imoralita and Urako, the Jelusians from the beginning,

845
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: they meet up with the two space racers Aaron and Shiro,

846
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 3: with Jack, the Fredo Corleone Creep with Maya, and with

847
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 3: General Garuda and Beba two, so they're all together now.

848
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 3: And then there is one of the strangest parts of

849
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 3: the movie was this weird subplot where the Jilusians Uraco

850
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 3: and Emmeralita and Jack, the three of them like go

851
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 3: off into the desert to hunt for other nutbearers and

852
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 3: they think they can find somebody else who's got a

853
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 3: magic nut and they meet with this old Crone in

854
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 3: a hut and it turns out to be a trap

855
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: because this evil Crone and her son who is just Greedo.

856
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 3: He's Greedo from Star Wars.

857
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: They try to get kind of a creature from the

858
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 2: Black Lagoon vibe from him.

859
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Black Lagoon and Greedo. They try to kill

860
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 3: Uraco and then they're going to force Emmeralita to marry

861
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 3: her Gredo son. She explains he was born on the

862
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 3: planet Pluto. No one loves him.

863
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. Like his whole weird appearance is

864
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 2: based on the fact, well, he was born in Pluto.

865
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 3: Okay, so oh no, Emeralita is gonna have to marry

866
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 3: the Greedo son. But then Imperial stormtroopers burst in. They

867
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 3: just like kick through the wall and they kill Grito

868
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 3: and they kidnap the Crone and Immeralita and Urako is

869
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 3: left behind. He's left for dead, but you find out

870
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 3: he's still alive. And then there's a sequence where I

871
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 3: would say, in one of the droopiest parts of the movie,

872
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,479
Speaker 3: where where the only one of the only parts where

873
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 3: the where it really kind of lags is suddenly we

874
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 3: have dream sequences, multiple dream sequences for multiple Nut heroes.

875
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 3: We see their dream where they get killed, like, uh,

876
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: there's some dream where immer Aalita is stabbed by a

877
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: crabhead stormtrooper and it makes a sound like a ketchup

878
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 3: bottle squirt and and and we find out it's just

879
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 3: all these the different Nut heroes like Maya and the

880
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 3: rough Riders hanging out in this house together and they're

881
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 3: all having the same dream.

882
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

883
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 3: Though it is in the sequence that we first see

884
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: Maya in a new outfit where she's dressed like Luigi

885
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 3: and I like that. But then we cut to the

886
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 3: bad guys, so Xa, remember Darth Crabhead and his mother.

887
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 3: They have Princess Imilita and the Crone on their spaceship,

888
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: and Roxeya and mother use a machine to mind read

889
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 3: the Krone and then through examination of her memories, they

890
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 3: see planet Earth, and they immediately decide we must have

891
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: planet Earth, we must conquer its beauty.

892
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 2: Yes, this green planet, yeah, I refer to.

893
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 3: So they fly the planet Jelusia itself through space to Earth.

894
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: There's like a part where it shows the planet just

895
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 3: kind of like farting. It's like all this green gas

896
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 3: is coming out of one side of it and that's

897
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 3: making it fly through space. And then it reaches Earth

898
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 3: and they fight a big battle.

899
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is a big battle. I mean, there

900
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: are at least two huge space battles in this picture,

901
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: and this is one of them. And it's great. It's

902
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: the use of scale models and explosions like actual fireworks,

903
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 2: except most to the time they look pretty good. You

904
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 2: don't get that sort of gamera bad gamera movie a fact,

905
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: where like an oversized flame is melting a toy truck.

906
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: Right.

907
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I thought the space battles look look

908
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: pretty good in this film, but it's Yeah, it's a

909
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: huge battle.

910
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 3: It's wonderful, and of course Earth loses. The Govanas win

911
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: and the Earth Suddenly the movie gets very weirdly, like

912
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 3: the scope changes. We get this geopolitical view and everything

913
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 3: moves very fast, and we learn about is there narration

914
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 3: I don't recall. Somehow we learn about there's a new

915
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 3: sort of a premiere elected to govern all of Earth.

916
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 3: And this guy he comes to oh, General Garuda Vic

917
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 3: Morrow is now on Earth, still drinking. I think he's

918
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,959
Speaker 3: just like in a restaurant somewhere drinking. And this guy

919
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 3: comes to him and he's like, Earth is on the

920
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 3: verge of annihilation. We can't let that happen. We need

921
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 3: your help. He appeals to General Garuda not to abandon

922
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 3: his magic nut response ability. And then meanwhile, I don't

923
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 3: remember exactly how this happens, but some of the other

924
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 3: Nut heroes crash on a red planet that is not Mars.

925
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 3: They say it is part of the Bernardi Star system.

926
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: They don't explain what that is, but here they finally,

927
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 3: in the last act of the film, meets Sonny Chiba.

928
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 3: And the deal with Sonny Chiba is he's playing a

929
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 3: good Gavana Skuy, so he's the same species as the

930
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: steel skinned guys who are conquering everything, but he's a

931
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 3: good one and his name is Prince Hans. He explains

932
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 3: that he is heir to the Gavana's throne and that

933
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 3: Rokxea was my undoing.

934
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he has like a horn broken off on

935
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 2: his helmet that helps signify all of.

936
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 3: This, right. So then the next so I guess he joins,

937
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 3: and somehow we find out he's a nut hero as well,

938
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 3: and then we cut back to the bad guys. So

939
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 3: I think the Earthlings have like three days to negotiate

940
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 3: terms with the Gavanas for their surrender, and the person

941
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 3: chosen to go up to negotiate with with Darth and

942
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 3: Mother is Vic Morrow is General Garuda. He gets sent up.

943
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: He's decked out wearing the full Austin Powers outfit, and

944
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 3: they for some reason, the bad guys at this point

945
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 3: have Vegas Jack captured and one of them insults him somehow,

946
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 3: like the crabheads start laughing at Vegas Jack, and this

947
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 3: makes Vic Morrow like incensed, and he stands up for

948
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 3: Jack's honor because he is an Earthling and challenges an

949
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 3: entree level level stormtrooper to a duel, which is one

950
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 3: of the strangest parts of the movie.

951
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: The yeah, the this du I do have to say this,

952
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 2: when we're comparing this film to Star Wars, I think

953
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: it arguably has better sword play than Star Wars does.

954
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 3: Than the first first Star Wars.

955
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: The first Star Wars film for nineteen seventy seven is

956
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 2: not known for its its wonderful play. I mean, yes,

957
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: it's a very memorable lightsaber battle, but the actual fight

958
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: choreography is not top notch.

959
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 3: No, if you compare it, like, you watch the lightsaber

960
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 3: battles in Empire and they're exquisite, amazing. Yeah, you watch

961
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 3: the one in the original Star Wars. It's just it's

962
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 3: it's kind of weak by comparison.

963
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen people try to explain it reht kind

964
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 2: of by saying, well, you have to realize that Obi

965
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 2: Wan and Darth Vader at this point they were just

966
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: so serious about killing each other. There was no stylistic

967
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: flourish to their to their the way they combat at

968
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: each other. But that's just that's too much of a stretch,

969
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: even for me.

970
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't buy it. But this isn't a duel

971
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 3: with swords. This is a duel with laser guns.

972
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, well, yeah, that's right. We have the

973
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: cowboy style laser gun duel. It's later that we have

974
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: a lot of sword play, yeah, with Sunny Chieba's character. Yeah,

975
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: and that's all terrific.

976
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good. But of course Vic Morrow he wins.

977
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 3: Even though the other guy tries to dishonorably cheat and

978
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 3: shoot Vic Moore in the back, he misses, and then

979
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 3: and then he loses the duel. Vic Morrow shows mercy

980
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 3: and doesn't kill the stormtrooper. But then, of course Darth

981
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 3: Crabhead is cruel himself and he says, I was disgraced

982
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 3: by this coward and he kills him and he says like.

983
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: He throws the gun over his head. Yeah, and there's

984
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 2: this wonderful scene where like the stormtrooper behind him is

985
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 2: like scrambling to catch it. It feels like like kind

986
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 2: of a blooper. But they're like, we got it. We're

987
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 2: not reshooting that.

988
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then and then rok Seya, he says, as

989
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 3: a demonstration of our power, just to like show Earth

990
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 3: we mean business, we're going to destroy the moon. And

991
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 3: then they do.

992
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: It's a warning shot and they blow up Earth's moon

993
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 2: and they be like, all right, tell us, well's what's next.

994
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: So that, of course is ridiculous for a number of reasons. Clearly,

995
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 2: destroying the Earth's moon would be far far more than

996
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 2: just a mere warning shot.

997
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think Earth would basically be screwed.

998
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 3: And I like, how after this, of course, the bad

999
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 3: guy's in the end, and it's like, oh, everything's going

1000
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 3: to be great. But the elimination of Earth's moon, just

1001
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 3: the effects on the tides like that would have disastrous

1002
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 3: effects on coastal marine ecosystems would probably cascade out to

1003
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 3: other ecosystems. There would just be mass extinctions. But then

1004
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 3: also I was reading an article about this on the

1005
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 3: Royal Museum's Greenwich website that was addressing what might happen

1006
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 3: if there were no moon. Without a moon, it seems

1007
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 3: like the Earth's tilt on its axis as it goes

1008
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 3: around on its orbital plane might not be stabilized, so

1009
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 3: suddenly like you might not get seasons, or the seasons

1010
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 3: wouldn't be consistent, and you just have like ridiculous unpredictable

1011
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 3: levels of climate change. It would you know, absolutely decimate

1012
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 3: life on Earth.

1013
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 2: And then also doesn't the Gavana's planet blow up in

1014
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 2: close proximity to Earth?

1015
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I haven't even talked about like the fragmentation

1016
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 3: of what would happen if you blow up the Moon

1017
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 3: blow up this other planet. So I think not the

1018
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 3: most plausible part of the movie.

1019
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1020
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 3: So, eventually, through some other plot machinations, all of our

1021
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 3: heroes end up getting captured by the Gavanas, and we

1022
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 3: learned that there was a trader among the Nut heroes,

1023
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 3: and it was Uraco, the Jilusian warrior.

1024
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 2: From the beginning, I was so utterly shocked that it

1025
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 2: wasn't Jack. I just knew it was going to be

1026
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 2: criminal Jack there.

1027
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was.

1028
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 2: I even called it. I'm like, it's Jack, It's got

1029
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 2: to be Jack. But it wasn't.

1030
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 3: No, Fredo was loyal. I knew it was you, Roco.

1031
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 3: And but then Roco, he like his heart is melted

1032
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 3: when he sees the nuts again, they all like talk

1033
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 3: about their nuts and hold the nuts up, and he

1034
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 3: discovers that Beba two, the robot, has his own nut,

1035
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 3: and it seems like the fact that even a robot

1036
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 3: could have a magic nut melts Urraco's heart, and it

1037
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 3: turns him back to be loyal to the nut heroes again.

1038
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he makes it he's ultimately a terrible trader

1039
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 2: because he he'd he barely betrays.

1040
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. So then there's a big battle. All the heroes

1041
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 3: are trying to escape and it comes down to a

1042
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 3: duel between Hans played by sunny Chiba and the bad

1043
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 3: guy Roxeya the Darth Crab. They have a great sword fight.

1044
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 3: Hans calls Roxeia a dog that deserves to die. And

1045
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 3: it's kind of hard to explain what's going on with

1046
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 3: their swords. So they're not lightsabers, they're just regular metal swords.

1047
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 3: But whenever they stab someone with one of these metal swords,

1048
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 3: a flash of colored light shoots out. So I'm not

1049
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 3: sure exactly how these things are supposed to work.

1050
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 2: Some sort of light injection saber or something.

1051
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but of course Hans wins, sunny Chiba stabs Darth.

1052
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 3: He throws them out the window, like literally smashes through

1053
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 3: the glass. And I don't know if they're supposed to

1054
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 3: be in the vacuum of space or on Jelusia. I

1055
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 3: guess it's on Jelusia, but Jelusia doesn't look like it

1056
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 3: has an atmosphere once again. And then finally they're escaping

1057
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 3: the planet Jelusia as it's exploding and they see the

1058
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 3: grand father from the beginning, remember him, and yeah, He's like, Immi, Alita,

1059
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 3: do not weep at my death. He says, you young people,

1060
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 3: you have to find another planet. You got to go

1061
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 3: to another corner of the stars and find a new planet,

1062
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 3: establish a civilization where joy and peace will rain. Sounds easy.

1063
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that would be the sequel, I guess.

1064
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 2: But but I mean also it does tie into this,

1065
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 2: if you know, if we're to discuss the themes of

1066
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: this movie. Granted, this one's a little light on thematics,

1067
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: I think, but for the most part, it's saying war

1068
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: is bad, peace is good, and you know, you should,

1069
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 2: you should, you know, focus on building a peaceful future. Yeah.

1070
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: I feel like these these vibes are are are fairly

1071
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: obvious in this film.

1072
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 3: I think there's something about redemption too. We see redemption

1073
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Speaker 3: of Raco after the robot nut melts his heart, and

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Speaker 3: then we also see a redemption for Vegas. Check like

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Speaker 3: he's kind of a heel most of the movie, but

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Speaker 3: then in the end he comes through and he's a

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Speaker 3: good guy and he wants to be a part of

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Speaker 3: building the new Jelusia. And Immeralita tells Jack the Fredo character,

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Speaker 3: that he would be wonderful on the new Jelusia. Everybody's

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Speaker 3: going to Jelusia and it's going to be great. And

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Speaker 3: then finally, one of the best moment at the end

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Speaker 3: of the film, I thought was that Beba too, the robot,

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Speaker 3: somehow his hand gets blown off. I don't remember how

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Speaker 3: that happens, but he laments that he can't go back

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Speaker 3: to Earth to get a purple heart for his wound.

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Speaker 3: And then vic Morrow's like, forget about your purple heart.

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Speaker 3: There are more beautiful dreams in space, so keep your

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Speaker 3: eyes on the stars. And that that's pretty much the end.

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Speaker 2: There's never a dull moment getting there though, you know

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Speaker 2: it's you're confused at times, but that you're always entertained.

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Speaker 2: Let's see. So we've discussed some of the themes in this film.

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Speaker 2: We've discussed some of the science already about the idea

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Speaker 2: of destroying Earth's noon as a warning shot and how

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Speaker 2: devastating that would be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's you destroy you Earth's moon. That's not the

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Speaker 3: warning shot. That's pretty much do death blow. Let's see

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Speaker 3: some other things we might briefly touch on. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there is a hint of pan spermia and the idea

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Speaker 3: of sending out space nuts to sort of grow heroes

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Speaker 3: and bring them back to you. Pant spermia being the

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Speaker 3: idea that life could originate on one planet and spread

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Speaker 3: to another planet or moon or what have you via

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Speaker 3: ejecta from that planet. I think there's an interesting theme

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Speaker 3: that is sort of implied in the fact that we

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Speaker 3: have a lot of these people who are maybe not

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Speaker 3: very serious. They're kind of thrill seekers, kind of screw

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Speaker 3: ups who get nuts, and then when they get a nut,

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Speaker 3: that the nut causes them to mature and to accept

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Speaker 3: responsibility and to become a hero. And this is a

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Speaker 3: theme that you find in a lot of these classic adventures,

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Speaker 3: that like having responsibility put on your shoulders causes you

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Speaker 3: to to grow up and to become and to learn

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Speaker 3: to sacrifice for others.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean even Vic Morro's character Garuda, you know,

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Speaker 2: he's like an old, old, kind of jaded character, but no,

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Speaker 2: he gets the he gets the nut and it it

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Speaker 2: reignites his passion, you know.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of General Garuda's love of robots?

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Speaker 3: Like why does he treat robots like people? But nobody

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Speaker 3: else does? I guess the nut heroes also they respect

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Speaker 3: Beba two. But the idea is that like his commanding

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Speaker 3: officer is like mad at him for respecting robots.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's it's on one hand, it forecasts

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Speaker 2: the direction they took Lando Carissian in the Solo movie

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Speaker 2: that came out, where it's implied that he has this

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Speaker 2: very close relationship with this with this particular robot.

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Speaker 3: You know. Oh I didn't see that. I didn't get

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Speaker 3: to that part.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I mean I enjoyed Solo. It's got it's

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Speaker 2: got a lot of good stuff in it. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: but one of them is the the Lando loves Robots

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Speaker 2: plot element, which which which I liked. But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: don't know exactly why why Garuda is singular in his

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Speaker 2: love of robots. Is it just because he's he's like,

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Speaker 2: he's worked, he's served alongside robots. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: He's this battle hardened, grizzled, old tough, hard drinking, you know,

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Speaker 3: leathery man who has a soft spot in his heart

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Speaker 3: for robots. Yeah, maybe maybe it's because he can't get

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Speaker 3: along with people, but he needs companionship, and a robot

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Speaker 3: can sort of fill that void. The the robot is

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Speaker 3: the peg that fits his hole.

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Speaker 2: Now, another another part of the plot that we might

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Speaker 2: briefly discuss some science around is the idea of taking

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Speaker 2: another planet and turning it into a spaceship, of moving

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Speaker 2: a planet from one system to another, in this case,

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Speaker 2: to conquer Earth.

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Speaker 3: I think you would encounter some severe problems about this.

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Speaker 3: So the idea is clearly that there's a reaction engine.

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Speaker 3: It's like throwing gas off one side of the planet

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Speaker 3: like a rocket to move the planet. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how much gas you'd have to throw off to like

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Speaker 3: move a planet at a reasonable speed to get there

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Speaker 3: within people's lifetimes and to leave the gravity of the

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Speaker 3: host star. It seems like actually the more reasonable proposition

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Speaker 3: would be to move the star. And most of the

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Speaker 3: propositions I've seen over time to navigate around space like

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Speaker 3: that are actually to create stellar engines, not planetary engines,

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Speaker 3: like one idea. I don't know if this is actually

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Speaker 3: all that plausible, but one that's at least been proposed

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Speaker 3: is something called a Scatov thruster, and that would be

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Speaker 3: something that would be built by like a Kardashev level

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Speaker 3: two type civilization that creates this giant mirror that you

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Speaker 3: would put on one side of a star that would

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Speaker 3: reflect the radiation pressure that the star puts out back

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Speaker 3: at the star, thus moving it. And then of course

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Speaker 3: if the star moves, it carries with it everything that's

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Speaker 3: orbiting around it. So you could at least potentially, you know,

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Speaker 3: in theory, move a whole solar system somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: That way, so scientifically grounded is that you say. So.

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Speaker 2: Message from Space wonderfully weird, very watchable, entertaining film, ultimately

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Speaker 2: very lighthearted. Like my son who is in third grade,

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Speaker 2: he didn't watch all of this, but he came in

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Speaker 2: for a little of it and he was loving it.

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Speaker 2: He was like, this is great, look at all these

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Speaker 2: space ships.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, if you want to check out Message from Space yourself,

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Speaker 2: it is, as of this recording available on Amazon Prime,

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01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 2: at least in the United States. You can like stream

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01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 2: it there. You can also pick it up as a

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01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 2: very nice DVD or Blu ray with some wonderful cover art.

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01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 2: So there are numerous ways to watch Message from Space

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Speaker 2: to receive the message from space, and yeah, we recommend.

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Speaker 3: It, Mother commands you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right, Well, we're gonna go ahead and wrap

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Speaker 2: up this episode of Weird House Cinema right here. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: we'd love to hear from everybody about this. What are

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on Message from Space? Do you have some

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Speaker 2: additional thoughts on Japanese cinema, Perhaps you're super immersed in

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Speaker 2: the realm of Japanese cinnamon, you have some thoughts on

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01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 2: some of the things we pinpointed in this film.

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Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite Star Wars ripoff?

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01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, favorite Stars Star Wars ripoff, favorite Sony Chiba film.

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Speaker 2: We'd love to hear your thoughts on any and all

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Speaker 2: of it. And also, you know, if there are weird

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Speaker 2: films out there you'd like us to consider in the future,

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Speaker 2: let us know about that. Like I say, we try

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Speaker 2: and keep the idea of weird film kind of broad,

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Speaker 2: you know, like it's not necessarily We're not necessarily talking

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Speaker 2: about bad films or good films. Cheap films are expensive films,

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Speaker 2: you know. Art films are just you know, pure popcorn fodder.

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Speaker 2: We try and cast the net wide and see what

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Speaker 2: kind of strange things show up. When we drag that

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Speaker 2: net back in.

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Speaker 3: So join us next week to talk about Forrest Gump.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, Forrest Gump is a great example the sort

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Speaker 2: of film will never cover.

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Speaker 3: That is the anti weird house.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that is. That's the normal house cinema pick of

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