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Speaker 2: on the Ravens for a little while now, like as
Speaker 2: a a value pick. But they're favored by seven and
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Speaker 2: up hour one and head into hour two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got two up there right now. We have
Speaker 4: more must win tonight for the Ravens or Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 4: Sixty one percent have the Ravens. And for the rest
Speaker 4: of the World series, you have Blue Jayson, six Blue
Speaker 4: Jays and seven or Dodgers in seven Blue Jays and
Speaker 4: six right now, barely ahead of Blue Jays and seven.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, and then we got to keep those
Speaker 2: up for this hour.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll roll with those for a little bit.
Speaker 4: We'll probably get one here from the to double D
Speaker 4: for a little fun a little bit later.
Speaker 2: Okay. Yes, Todd is working on his Halloween names for tomorrow,
Speaker 2: and I said, how about a rhyme time is what.
Speaker 5: We will do? Both?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Can you do that?
Speaker 5: And featuring feats Dan Orlovski and you.
Speaker 3: Could still be involved in and I can pay, and I.
Speaker 6: Can pay attention where you can ask me a question,
Speaker 6: I most take a name when you were looking for
Speaker 6: a number, and vice versa.
Speaker 2: What happened yesterday because I heard the first part.
Speaker 5: Of the question and I took a chair.
Speaker 6: I was in the middle of an email with the
Speaker 6: NFL Newka something which I probably should have waited. I
Speaker 6: definitely should have waited. Didn't have to be done at
Speaker 6: that second. And I thought you were asking who is
Speaker 6: the last person to play average eighty games or playing
Speaker 6: eighty games? And I said Oscar Robertson. And you were
Speaker 6: looking for a number of games. So I just that
Speaker 6: was an epic fail, like eleven.
Speaker 2: The number of players who played in Right.
Speaker 5: I'm still not kidding, right, And I said Oscar Robertson.
Speaker 6: So when you're looking for a number and someone says
Speaker 6: a name, it certainly proves that they didn't catch the full.
Speaker 2: Court Because we didn't talk about it afterwards. You didn't
Speaker 2: want to talk about it. You didn't say, hey, I'm
Speaker 2: sorry for you know doing that.
Speaker 6: I was moping more than I know. You addressing the
Speaker 6: apology aspect.
Speaker 2: And I need you to kind of stay in the
Speaker 2: moment three hours. Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 5: It's not asking a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, after that, and do whatever you want.
Speaker 5: I was bummed.
Speaker 6: I was angry at myself, and I let it get
Speaker 6: the better of my emotions.
Speaker 7: Yes, well, I would say, Todd, if you had a
Speaker 7: do over yesterday when we went to commercial break, I
Speaker 7: would have walked right into Dan's side and said, my bad,
Speaker 7: won't do it again. They didn't do it, and then
Speaker 7: it goes away faster in my experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't do that.
Speaker 4: Oddly, it had completely gone away until Todd brought it up.
Speaker 2: No, I was still there.
Speaker 8: Oh was it? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, simmering, Yes it was. He joked about it yesterday
Speaker 2: and I didn't respond to his joke. When you sent
Speaker 2: me an email or a text, that's true, and then
Speaker 2: you put Oscar Robertson in there.
Speaker 5: I should have just pulled the band aid off and
Speaker 5: said my bad. I that's wasn't paying attention to. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'll learn for next time.
Speaker 6: Actually I will be in that STI won't be next time.
Speaker 6: I'll make sure I hear the entire question. I'll be
Speaker 6: ready for any pop quiz, whether I'm raising my hand
Speaker 6: or not?
Speaker 4: Are Is this a prop bet on whether Todd will
Speaker 4: learn for next time and then next time when this
Speaker 4: does happen, Okay, he will not admit that mistake again.
Speaker 3: Two and a half years.
Speaker 2: The over unders two and a half years, I'll have
Speaker 2: five more times.
Speaker 3: I think there's a good chance that I will by
Speaker 3: the end of the year.
Speaker 8: Easy.
Speaker 6: There's a good chance I will guess something wrong, but
Speaker 6: I will apologize for it quicker or apologize at all.
Speaker 3: Well, if you pay attention, then you don't have to apologize.
Speaker 6: I just accept somehow, some way I'm going to end
Speaker 6: up missing all of a sudden, You're gonna go, Todd,
Speaker 6: what do you think I'm like thought, I thought we
Speaker 6: raise our hand to tell you just threw.
Speaker 5: A pop star.
Speaker 3: I was working on the lookie for later. These things happen, okay,
Speaker 3: but just stay focused.
Speaker 2: Just stay focused, Okay.
Speaker 5: I hope to not miss any of it.
Speaker 2: And if you're going to send an email, send an
Speaker 2: email during a commercial break.
Speaker 6: Yes, that was poor judgment on my part that I
Speaker 6: felt like I had to check that box at that moment,
Speaker 6: and and you caught me off guard because I missed
Speaker 6: the part of the question that you're asked, and I
Speaker 6: gabbled instead of just saying, I should have just said
Speaker 6: I didn't hear what you said. Then you could have
Speaker 6: just said, why aren't you listening? As opposed to guessing
Speaker 6: a name when you're looking for a number, that makes
Speaker 6: it ten times worse.
Speaker 2: It was funny though where you were I could tell
Speaker 2: that you didn't You weren't listening, and then you tried
Speaker 2: to scramble and salvage it.
Speaker 5: But I mean, off chance that maybe I'm writing you
Speaker 5: were looking for a name, maybe it.
Speaker 6: Would have just been like, no, actually it was an
Speaker 6: Oscar Operser, it was Frankie Jones, and then it would have.
Speaker 3: Been fun Yes.
Speaker 7: Well, now the irony is yesterday you wanted a number
Speaker 7: and he gave a name. Two years ago during some
Speaker 7: type of quiz, you wanted a name and he answered eleven.
Speaker 3: Eleven, Now eleven and Oscar Roberts.
Speaker 2: That was great haunting the eleven still is funny around here,
Speaker 2: you know, when all else fails and we don't know
Speaker 2: an answer. Even the back room guys they go eleven
Speaker 2: yes to Speaking of numbers, do you hear about the
Speaker 2: six seven thing?
Speaker 5: The kids are saying? This is like a big story.
Speaker 6: I didn't hear about it until yesterday on the news,
Speaker 6: but I guess for like last month or so, kids
Speaker 6: are saying six seven or something.
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean anything from some rap song.
Speaker 6: Lyric or something, and everyone's giggling six to seven because
Speaker 6: the adults don't get it, and they I think they're
Speaker 6: missing out on something.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Paul, I'm not going to go too deep
Speaker 7: into this, but it's at least four months old, this story,
Speaker 7: and the kids are already past it. And my daughter
Speaker 7: joked yesterday, when the adults get it, it's well over.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, six to seven. Yeah, yeah, those kids, they're crazy.
Speaker 6: A very popular old news stage in New York decided
Speaker 6: yesterday they were breaking news about this six to seventh thing.
Speaker 6: They had four months old and they're just finding out
Speaker 6: about the kids saying six to seven.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll get phone calls coming up. Jay Billis
Speaker 2: he was on the call for Victor Wembanyama game. Was
Speaker 2: that opening night for Victor Wembanyama March okay, and Jay
Speaker 2: was just gushing.
Speaker 9: He called them the greatest player ever. He did Okay,
Speaker 9: no he didn't, but he just.
Speaker 2: Didn't sound like it felt that way. Yeah, yes it did.
Speaker 2: All right, here's another story. The Louisiana governor is Jeff Landry.
Speaker 2: He told reporters yesterday that the LSU athletic director, Scott Woodward,
Speaker 2: would not be involved in selecting LSU's next football coach,
Speaker 2: saying he would let President Donald Trump do it before Woodward. Okay,
Speaker 2: a joke, but still, this is your acting athletic director here.
Speaker 3: Today.
Speaker 2: Of course, fired Brian Kelly. Now you've got a settlement here,
Speaker 2: and Brian Kelly's going to walk away with perhaps fifty
Speaker 2: four million dollars. And well, here is the governor yesterday
Speaker 2: at the press conference.
Speaker 10: This is a pattern. The guy that's here now, I
Speaker 10: wrote that contract cost Texas A and M seventy some
Speaker 10: million dollars. Right now, we got a fifty three million
Speaker 10: dollar liability. We are not doing that again. And you
Speaker 10: know what, I believe. I believe that we're going to find.
Speaker 5: A great coach.
Speaker 10: You know, I'm not going to be picking the next coach,
Speaker 10: but I can promise you we're going to pick a
Speaker 10: coach and we're going to make sure that that coach
Speaker 10: is successful, and we're going to make sure that he's compensated. Properly,
Speaker 10: and We're going to put metrics on it because I'm
Speaker 10: tired of rewarding failure in this country and then leaving
Speaker 10: the tax mey is you know, to foot the bill. Look,
Speaker 10: my role is about the fiscal effect of firing a
Speaker 10: coach under a terrible contract.
Speaker 2: Okay, So he criticized Woodward, the athletic director, for greeing
Speaker 2: to a ten year, ninety five million dollar contract with
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly. LSU's on the hook for fifty four million dollars.
Speaker 2: Woodward said that the school would quote continue to negotiate
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly's separation and will work towards a path for
Speaker 2: that's better for both parties now. The governor then also
Speaker 2: criticized his athletic director for agreeing to a similar one
Speaker 2: sided coaching contract when Texas A and M. He was
Speaker 2: the athletic director when jimbo Fisher got his contract. We
Speaker 2: have another comment from the Governor, Marvin. Okay, so I
Speaker 2: could next Who's it?
Speaker 10: No, I can tell you right now, Swood, is I
Speaker 10: selected the next coach? Hell, I'll let Donald Trump select
Speaker 10: it before I'll let him do it. I don't know.
Speaker 10: But the Borto superwas is going to come up with
Speaker 10: a committee and they're gonna go find us a coach.
Speaker 2: That's SEC football right there, that's SEC football. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: got to throw my athletic director under the bus. Yes, ton,
Speaker 2: real quick question?
Speaker 5: What about the taxes?
Speaker 6: Are another player rate in our streets need to be
Speaker 6: a lot more safe and all the kids don't have
Speaker 6: school books?
Speaker 5: What are we gonna go?
Speaker 2: Okay, But in fairness to the governor, this was not
Speaker 2: about the football situation. He was asked football questions and
Speaker 2: then that was at the end of the press conference.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the press conference was about, but
Speaker 2: I know what it became about, because it was about,
Speaker 2: you know, picking your successor to Brian Kelly and doing
Speaker 2: it in a fiscal way. Now, I don't know if
Speaker 2: this means, hey, how about not a ten year deal? Hey,
Speaker 2: maybe you don't get that coach because you're going to
Speaker 2: be tied up for ten years and you should never
Speaker 2: be tied up for ten years with a coach with
Speaker 2: that amount of money. And this athletic director has done
Speaker 2: it twice with Jimbo Fisher and now Brian Kelling. You
Speaker 2: may not get the guy you want, but you might
Speaker 2: get somebody who is on the precipice of being somebody
Speaker 2: and maybe you get them at a better price. Don't
Speaker 2: go over five years. Don't in today's In today's college
Speaker 2: football climate, nobody's staying around for ten years, whether they
Speaker 2: want to leave or you want them to leave. Sustainability
Speaker 2: is so difficult now. I'm not signing up for ten
Speaker 2: years with anybody. I'd have a pre nup.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Polling.
Speaker 7: So in theory, the governor is agreeing with what you're saying,
Speaker 7: and he's going to have a more fiscally conscious contract
Speaker 7: for wherever the next head coach of LSU is. I
Speaker 7: don't know if he realizes that's not the current trend
Speaker 7: in college football, and no current coach is going to
Speaker 7: consider LSU under those conditions. For example, Lane Kiffin, if
Speaker 7: he gets a call from LSU and says we're going
Speaker 7: to offer you a six year contract and the buyout
Speaker 7: is light, he will not return their calls because Florida
Speaker 7: will not do that. They will would be with the
Speaker 7: old rules ten years, one hundred and ten million.
Speaker 2: Even if I give ten years Delane Kiffin, he's not
Speaker 2: staying there ten years.
Speaker 7: But he will never join your football team.
Speaker 2: You know what at some point, I have to have
Speaker 2: some kind of continuity. I have to have where we're
Speaker 2: both in this together. And Brian Kelly was never a
Speaker 2: good fit. He wasn't. He's a really good coach. He's
Speaker 2: going to coach someplace. He's going to get opportunities. Vegas
Speaker 2: already has odds of where they think he's going.
Speaker 3: To end up. He will coach.
Speaker 2: But if you're going to try to even Indiana with
Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti, I love the story, he's been successful. I
Speaker 2: don't want to give you nine years. I'm going to
Speaker 2: give you five. I'm going to give you five top
Speaker 2: end dollars. But after that then we go into this together.
Speaker 2: And it's not his age, it's just I can't give
Speaker 2: you ten years. That's an eternity in college football now.
Speaker 2: But the governor's involved in this, and I you know,
Speaker 2: you got other younger coaches here that would love to
Speaker 2: coach LSU, and maybe you sign them up for five years,
Speaker 2: maybe you get a friendly contract there. I mean, who
Speaker 2: are the marquee coaches that you have to give a
Speaker 2: ten year deal to. James Franklin. I don't want James Franklin.
Speaker 2: Urban Meyer is not going to show up in the doorstep.
Speaker 2: The only guy that you would ever consider this, or
Speaker 2: you might have to consider this, is Lane Kiffen Nick
Speaker 2: Saban's not coming back to LSU. Urban Meyer. The one
Speaker 2: guy is Lane Kiffin. All the other coaches, no, Ryan
Speaker 2: Day is not going tow NSU. So who are the
Speaker 2: coaches where you go? We're gonna I gotta give him
Speaker 2: ten ten years. Kirby Smart's not going down. None of
Speaker 2: these coaches are are going there. It's Lane Kiffin. That's it. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you could look at it.
Speaker 7: There's no reports, but if Dan Landing of Oregon put
Speaker 7: himself out there, it would be interesting to see what
Speaker 7: he got from LSU. Just coach, energetic.
Speaker 3: But you're at Oregon, you're in the Big ten.
Speaker 2: You've got the financial resources that match Texas. You know,
Speaker 2: you got you know, the boosters, Phil Knight, Nike, that atmosphere. Now,
Speaker 2: I know he's an SEC guy, so I guess there's
Speaker 2: always that chance.
Speaker 9: Yes, Marmon, what about Dabo Sweeney.
Speaker 2: He's gonna want he'll want a ten year deal, but
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't want Dabo Sweeney for ten years.
Speaker 2: In today, it's really a ten year guy. But I
Speaker 2: don't want him not in today's college football because it's
Speaker 2: not working at Clemson. Your model was not working at
Speaker 2: Clemson right now. It did, but it's not going to
Speaker 2: it's not sustainable. You're gonna go to LSU. What system
Speaker 2: are you bringing in to LSU?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Pauline, I could see Sweeney because it's cooled off
Speaker 7: at Clemson right now and before you get a chance
Speaker 7: to be fired. Remember the old Jimbo Fisher model at
Speaker 7: Florida State. I'm cooling off. I'm cooling off. I'm gonna
Speaker 7: run to A and M and get ten years, seventy
Speaker 7: five million. That could be what Dabo does before someone
Speaker 7: else tells him he's leaving.
Speaker 2: I hope LSU hires somebody who is, you know, an
Speaker 2: up and coming guy and get that opportunity. But you know,
Speaker 2: maybe you get these guys who go I could swoop
Speaker 2: in and get a big payday.
Speaker 11: Here.
Speaker 3: It feels like Lane Kiffin's gone.
Speaker 2: It just feels like that. And I brought this up
Speaker 2: about the documentary that I saw on the mother Ship.
Speaker 2: And there's no reason for him to leave Oxford given
Speaker 2: that he's family's there, he's healthy. Now, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of positives there what he's doing for Ole Miss. But
Speaker 2: I don't know if Lane has always got one foot
Speaker 2: in and one foot out. It just feels like that's
Speaker 2: his personality. Yes, Marv, do you think.
Speaker 9: That the LSU brass would put up with a lower level,
Speaker 9: kind of no name head coach, Like we're LSU, how
Speaker 9: come we don't have a big time coach? If they
Speaker 9: get some guy that came from a smaller school, tod
Speaker 9: be like who.
Speaker 2: Well ed Orgeron wasn't a big name coach. Les Miles
Speaker 2: wasn't a big name coach.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: Nick Saban became a big name coach. So I think
Speaker 2: it could be a launching pad.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Paulie Lane Kiffin does not make quite as much
Speaker 7: as some of the other coaches. I think he's I
Speaker 7: don't think he's in the top. He's the eleventh highest
Speaker 7: paid coach in the country as of this year. That
Speaker 7: win he had over Oklahoma last week actually triggered a
Speaker 7: one year contract extension for him, and that will pay
Speaker 7: him nine million. But that's at the back end of
Speaker 7: his contract.
Speaker 2: He is all right, I pump him up two more
Speaker 2: million dollars. Yeah, I put him in eleven million dollars.
Speaker 2: I keep him there all right, let me take a break.
Speaker 2: Ja Bill's going to join us. More phone calls coming
Speaker 2: up as well. We're back after this on The Dan
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Speaker 2: So Austin Reeves had twenty eight the game winner and
Speaker 2: sixteen assists as the Lakers beat the Minnesota Timberwolves. I
Speaker 2: think the Wolves were without the couple players, weren't they Marvin.
Speaker 9: No Anthony Edwards last night?
Speaker 3: Okay, but did they have the stifled tower in there?
Speaker 9: They sure did? Oh that's that's who Austin Reeves hit
Speaker 9: the jumper over.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, well it's a good thing that they had him,
Speaker 2: or Austin Reeves would have gone for forty five.
Speaker 9: Future Hall of Famer Rudy Gobert.
Speaker 2: He is, he's going to be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 13: He is.
Speaker 2: Because somebody had to be first team All Pro when
Speaker 2: they were having center, two forwards and two guards.
Speaker 9: And all those defensive Player of the Year awards. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 9: so he'll get in.
Speaker 2: Wemby should have gotten it if he but he didn't
Speaker 2: play enough games last year. But Webby's going to be
Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year this year.
Speaker 7: Yes, Paulie, this is gonna sound very harsh to Rudy Gobert,
Speaker 7: But can you be a Hall of Famer but also
Speaker 7: be a guy that you wouldn't want on your basketball
Speaker 7: team even in his prime?
Speaker 2: Well, no offense, okay, move on.
Speaker 3: Is Jay billis with us Todd.
Speaker 5: He's all set.
Speaker 2: Jay billis. He has top in college basketball. As all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, I'm watching the Spurs game. There's Jay
Speaker 2: and he is raving about Victor winbin Yama. When's the
Speaker 2: last time you raved about somebody like you did Victor
Speaker 2: win Banyama?
Speaker 8: Wow?
Speaker 13: Probably Zion Williamson in college something like that, or Lebron
Speaker 13: Kevin Durant, you know, when they were in college and
Speaker 13: coming into the draft. You know, it's rare that that
Speaker 13: you have a guy that you're you're looking at him going,
Speaker 13: I've never seen this before, and you know you're you're
Speaker 13: old enough. I'm not sure how much your audience is.
Speaker 13: But the only guy I could kind of compare when
Speaker 13: ban Yama two was Alph Sampson.
Speaker 8: Like, I really believe this. If for ALFH.
Speaker 13: Sampson were born twenty one years ago, he'd probably be
Speaker 13: in the wimban Yama atmosphere, because you know he was.
Speaker 13: Samson graduated college in eighty three and he was MVP
Speaker 13: the All Star Game in eighty five and averaged over
Speaker 13: twenty and ten with the Rockets before he got injured,
Speaker 13: and at seven four, really graceful athletic, very very skilled,
Speaker 13: but he was put down the post. If he were
Speaker 13: allowed to play today's game, yeah, I think he could
Speaker 13: be in that atmosphere. But there's never been anything like
Speaker 13: weban Yama at seven six or whatever he is now.
Speaker 13: He was standing next to Derek Lively the second of
Speaker 13: seven to one, and he made him look like it
Speaker 13: made it look like Derek Clivey was standing next to you.
Speaker 2: How would you describe his game?
Speaker 13: He is, He's like a seven foot six praying mantis
Speaker 13: that has the skills of a six to one guard,
Speaker 13: and he's he's become more physical to the point where
Speaker 13: last year, I think he was shooting about eight almost
Speaker 13: nine threes per game and half the amount of free throws.
Speaker 13: And this year he's not taking near as many threes.
Speaker 13: I mean he might be taking two a game, and
Speaker 13: he's shooting a ton of free throws. I mean, he's
Speaker 13: playing his game more in the paint and making his
Speaker 13: presence known from fifteen feet an end rather than outside
Speaker 13: of that area, and his effectiveness has gone way up.
Speaker 13: But I just think he's learning how to be more
Speaker 13: dominant in every aspect of the game. And he's only
Speaker 13: going to get better as long as he stays healthy.
Speaker 13: I mean he's twenty one years old, yeah, and he's
Speaker 13: only going to get better. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: How much of his development do you lean on where
Speaker 2: he played that he didn't go to college, but growing
Speaker 2: up in academies, the pro development and the all around
Speaker 2: development that that you find in Europe that you don't
Speaker 2: necessarily find here in the United States.
Speaker 13: I don't know that that's necessarily that big of a deal. Look,
Speaker 13: I think we have in the United States. We've got
Speaker 13: a skill development culture of late and more of an
Speaker 13: AAU culture. So look, we're going to find something to
Speaker 13: complain about. I mean, when we were in college, the
Speaker 13: coaches complained that we played too much pickup ball and
Speaker 13: we didn't do enough skill work. And now they're complaining
Speaker 13: that they do too much skill work, they don't play
Speaker 13: enough pickup nobody plays pick up anymore, and they don't
Speaker 13: know how to play five on five. We're always going
Speaker 13: to complain about something, But I think what we wind
Speaker 13: up missing in this Dan, and I'm not saying you,
Speaker 13: but you know, we tend to still have this narrative
Speaker 13: that foreign players are doing things substantially different than we are,
Speaker 13: instead of looking at it like since the ninety two
Speaker 13: Olympics and the dream team basketball has exploded worldwide, we
Speaker 13: still have most of the best players in.
Speaker 8: The world, but we're not going to have them all anymore.
Speaker 13: And the idea like right now the top five candidates
Speaker 13: for MVP are all foreign born players, shake Guilders. Alexander
Speaker 13: won it last year. He's Canadian. We're not going to
Speaker 13: have all the best players anymore. That's just not going
Speaker 13: to happen. The world's too big, and basketball is the
Speaker 13: second most popular sport in the world behind soccer.
Speaker 2: But if I put a non US five against a
Speaker 2: US five, who would you take.
Speaker 13: A non US five against the US five? Yeah, so
Speaker 13: you're asking me the international team. I mean, I would
Speaker 13: take Jokic, Wueban Yama, Doncic, Shake gild Justs, Alexander, that crew,
Speaker 13: and they'd be really hard to beat. But we'd be competitive.
Speaker 13: It's not like we wouldn't win. Like we're still winning
Speaker 13: gold medals now. But the problem is, like the it's
Speaker 13: kind of like the Ryder Cup. You can't have just
Speaker 13: one country against the United States. We're still going to
Speaker 13: win that. But if you take the rest of the
Speaker 13: world combined, of course, of course that's going to be
Speaker 13: a problem. But like if you know, if we were
Speaker 13: just playing if the Ryder Cup, if the US Ryder
Speaker 13: Cup team was just playing Great Britain and Ireland, now
Speaker 13: we dominate. That's why they went to Europe. That's why
Speaker 13: I say we still have most of the best players
Speaker 13: in the world, the overwhelming majority we still have, but
Speaker 13: we don't have them all.
Speaker 2: I get also Yanis on that non y Yeah.
Speaker 13: Yeah, Yanis, that's the time, thank you. That's the top
Speaker 13: five I was talking about for MVP. And the first
Speaker 13: American you're gonna mention American born player is probably going
Speaker 13: to be Anthony Edwards of Minnesota, and he's further down
Speaker 13: the list for MVP right now.
Speaker 2: Talking to Jay Billis, he's got Duke in Texas on
Speaker 2: November fourth and Kansas North Carolina November seventh. What did
Speaker 2: you make a Cooper flag and his performance against the Spurs.
Speaker 13: Good not great, but I I think you kind of
Speaker 13: expect that a little bit like he had a couple
Speaker 13: of things, if you want to say, working against him.
Speaker 13: He was at eighteen, asked to play the point guard
Speaker 13: position in his first NBA game, which certainly isn't an
Speaker 13: easy transition to make.
Speaker 8: He didn't play point at Duke.
Speaker 13: He's got point guard skills, obviously, and he was being
Speaker 13: guarded by Stefan Cassel, who's one of the handful of
Speaker 13: the best defenders in the league in my view, and
Speaker 13: that's a little bit of a.
Speaker 8: Challenge for a player.
Speaker 13: And then once if you do get by your initial defender,
Speaker 13: you're running into wembin Yama. So that's a challenge. He's
Speaker 13: had some really good games and really good moments, and
Speaker 13: like most rookies, I think he's going to have his
Speaker 13: up and downs throughout the year, but he's the real deal.
Speaker 8: And what is He.
Speaker 13: Averaged thirteen points, seven rebounds, whatever, And he's made some
Speaker 13: great plays and he's made some that haven't been as great.
Speaker 13: But I think as he gets adjusted and that won't
Speaker 13: take too long to happen, he's going to establish himself
Speaker 13: as one of the best players in the league.
Speaker 2: Anything stand out from Austin Reeves when you saw him
Speaker 2: in college?
Speaker 13: Yeah, So Austin Reeves started his career at Wichita State
Speaker 13: and the first time I really saw him play. I
Speaker 13: saw him before that, but when I really saw him
Speaker 13: play was at Maui when he was witched on.
Speaker 8: He had a shoulder injury.
Speaker 13: And played through it, and my thought was, man, this
Speaker 13: guy can really shoot it and he's tough. But did
Speaker 13: I think, Okay, he's going to be a great NBA
Speaker 13: player at that time?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 13: And then when he transferred to Oklahoma, you're going, man,
Speaker 13: this guy can really play. But still you weren't thinking
Speaker 13: like I wasn't. I wasn't like jumping banging my fist
Speaker 13: on the table when he didn't get drafted, going what
Speaker 13: are these guys doing?
Speaker 8: You know, this is idiotic? How can you not draft
Speaker 8: this guy?
Speaker 13: That's happening more and more now where players tend to
Speaker 13: blossom a little bit later, and you see more undrafted
Speaker 13: players having success in the NBA because it's not all
Speaker 13: about being a superstar. You know, you got the superstars
Speaker 13: that are in a small category in the lottery. And then, uh,
Speaker 13: I think I heard one of my colleagues last night,
Speaker 13: I think it was last night talking about, you know,
Speaker 13: how did how did these guys go undrafted? How did
Speaker 13: Nikola Jokic go in the second round? Well, I don't
Speaker 13: remember any of those guys saying why why wasn't it
Speaker 13: happening at the time. You know, scouting's not easy, and uh,
Speaker 13: and you're gonna you're gonna miss, like all thirty teams
Speaker 13: missed on Jokic in the first round. So it's not
Speaker 13: like it's not like somebody's got a magic formula of
Speaker 13: spotting this stuff in advance. You know, you do, you
Speaker 13: do the best you can. But Austin Reeves is a
Speaker 13: he's a stud, he's a he's a tough guy.
Speaker 2: Who's the guy the player that you thought he was
Speaker 2: going to be great and didn't turn out to be.
Speaker 8: Thought was going to be great. God, there have been
Speaker 8: a whole bunch of them.
Speaker 13: I don't have one off the top of my head
Speaker 13: Dan that I was like, Oh my god, I thought
Speaker 13: this guy was going to be unbelievable.
Speaker 8: I mean there's been there have been a.
Speaker 13: Bunch that, you know, we scratched our heads the year
Speaker 13: Anthony Bennett from YOUNLV was taken number one by Cleveland, Like,
Speaker 13: I didn't see that coming, But I also didn't see
Speaker 13: him being being out of the mix as quickly as
Speaker 13: he was. I didn't see the Markel Foltstein coming, Like
Speaker 13: who could have Who could have imagined that he have
Speaker 13: sort of issues that weren't related to his talent that
Speaker 13: would be so debilitating for him. But there have been
Speaker 13: a lot of guys that that we've over like that.
Speaker 13: The players are so young when you're evaluating them, it's
Speaker 13: hard not to over project him at times because you've
Speaker 13: seen other similar players, similar comps that did extraordinarily well,
Speaker 13: and you go, man, he fits the suit of this guy,
Speaker 13: so that that happens too. And that's why I think
Speaker 13: the longer I've done this, uh, the more I've come
Speaker 13: to come to realize for myself that you know, like
Speaker 13: we're kind of guessing you do the best you can,
Speaker 13: but you don't know you believe, like I believe this,
Speaker 13: Like when Lebron came out, I felt like I knew, like,
Speaker 13: but I've gone more to I really believe this.
Speaker 2: Who's the best player in college basketball this year?
Speaker 8: The best play?
Speaker 13: Well, we've got an unbelievable group of freshmen that are
Speaker 13: going to dominate the top of the draft. So BYU's
Speaker 13: got aj Devantza, and Duke's got Cameron Boozer, Kansas has
Speaker 13: h has Darren Peterson.
Speaker 8: So all these guys are going to compete for the
Speaker 8: number one pick.
Speaker 13: If I had one player I could have for a team,
Speaker 13: I would want Braden Smith to Purdue the point guard.
Speaker 13: He's the best point guard in the country. And I
Speaker 13: don't think it's close. And while a lot of people
Speaker 13: around the college space are are bringing their hands and
Speaker 13: predicting doomsday about you know that there are no rules,
Speaker 13: and it's the wild world West and all that stuff,
Speaker 13: which it's not. Purdue is keeping their players and they're
Speaker 13: not they're not getting McDonald's All Americans every year and
Speaker 13: they're winning at a really high level. So the idea,
Speaker 13: you can't do it in this transactional world. I love
Speaker 13: that word that work. Transactional. Can't have relations to butt anymore.
Speaker 13: It's all transactional, as if as if a scholarship wasn't
Speaker 13: a transaction. Those were transactions. Uh, but you can. You
Speaker 13: can do it and quote unquote do it the right
Speaker 13: way like Matt Painter does. You don't have to. You
Speaker 13: don't have to you know, sell out and all that stuff.
Speaker 13: It's possible. Good to talk to you, always, good to
Speaker 13: talk to you. Thanks Dan, thanksbody. That's Jay Billis Jay
Speaker 13: will be on the call.
Speaker 2: Duke in Texas on November fourth, Kansas, North Carolina. November seventh,
Speaker 2: he called the Victor wind Benielma Spurs game against the
Speaker 2: MAVs and Cooper Flay. Anthony Davis is injured again. Now
Speaker 2: that's a guy going to be a Hall of Famer,
Speaker 2: But I don't know if I want him on my
Speaker 2: team just because he shows you the glimpses and you go,
Speaker 2: oh my god, and then he doesn't play. You know,
Speaker 2: when Barkley gives you the nickname street Clothes, that's not
Speaker 2: a good thing name.
Speaker 9: Yes, Mark, Well, there's a different there's a difference between
Speaker 9: Anthony Davis and Rudy Gobert. You know, Anthony Davis can
Speaker 9: play and be a big part of a winning team.
Speaker 9: Rudy Gobert is just tall.
Speaker 2: Well he's still he's Defensive Player of the Year what
Speaker 2: four times?
Speaker 3: But who's playing defense? Well, you need to have that
Speaker 3: rim protector, Marven.
Speaker 9: They love that at the draft.
Speaker 3: You gotta he's a rim protector.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yes, mart In the Olympics, Rudy Gobert was on
Speaker 9: the bench in the game.
Speaker 3: You don't have to tell me.
Speaker 2: I kept saying, you can't have these center too forwards,
Speaker 2: two guards. Basketball is not that anymore. And you were
Speaker 2: recognizing guys because well, we got to have a center.
Speaker 2: Who's it going to be Rudy Gobert. I'd be like, Okay,
Speaker 2: he's not one of the top fifteen players in the league.
Speaker 2: Defensive player of the Year, Okay, Yes.
Speaker 9: Marvin DeAndre Jordan was first team All NBA one year.
Speaker 9: No knock to him, but not first team all NBA.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I had to have a center, Yeah, Paul Shop.
Speaker 7: Blocking is pretty dead in the NBA. Besides when Benyama
Speaker 7: he's at four point eight. The only one over to
Speaker 7: is Miles Turner of Milwaukee. There it used to be
Speaker 7: there'd always be a bunch of guys in the threes
Speaker 7: and fours with Blocksberg.
Speaker 2: I don't know if guys are going for him anymore.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know, and I don't know. You know,
Speaker 2: how many guys take it to the basket, But I
Speaker 2: don't know if you're you know, do I want to
Speaker 2: go for that?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 2: How about I wait for the rebound here? But yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't find too many guys attacking the hoop the
Speaker 2: way they once did. All right, let me take a break.
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Speaker 2: listen live. I'll get two more phone calls coming up,
Speaker 2: hearing from a couple people saying, can you still not
Speaker 2: pitch to show? Hey, o'tani, I'm like, at your risk. Now,
Speaker 2: he didn't look good last night because everybody was, Oh,
Speaker 2: everybody's saying the same thing. You you can't pitch to Otani.
Speaker 2: I'll leave that to you at your own risk and
Speaker 2: your pitching staff.
Speaker 3: How about we wait till the World Series is over.
Speaker 2: Okay, history is on my side of maybe you don't
Speaker 2: want to pitch to Otani. But as I said yesterday,
Speaker 2: maybe we should be getting to the point. Don't pitch
Speaker 2: to Vlad Guerrero. I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: Right now if.
Speaker 2: You said you can pitch to Otani or Blad, I
Speaker 2: would pitch to Otani before I would Vlad Guerrero. He's
Speaker 2: been unbelievable. Can we play the sound of a Vlad
Speaker 2: Guerrero home run last night?
Speaker 8: Hey?
Speaker 1: You want Lottie rocks the ball like feeling deep.
Speaker 14: Back to the wall. It is good again, back to.
Speaker 1: Back class in the first three pitches, the Blue Jays plea.
Speaker 2: Do nothing. You can just hear that sound. Just hear
Speaker 2: it even through the crowd. You know, the crowd noise
Speaker 2: there and just certain sounds.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 2: That's why you know when Otani gave up the home
Speaker 2: run to Vlad, like he whipped his head around really quickly,
Speaker 2: and Otani, of all people should have known, oh that's gone.
Speaker 2: But you don't want to do this where you throw
Speaker 2: the pitch, hits the home run and then you just
Speaker 2: asked for the ball from the umpire like you have
Speaker 2: to give it a little of.
Speaker 3: Man, did he get all of that? Yes, he did
Speaker 3: take another ball?
Speaker 2: Please. I quoted Dion Sanders yesterday and I said to Marvin,
Speaker 2: Dion had to say this to cameras or radio people.
Speaker 2: And he was talking about that nobody has any patience
Speaker 2: in college football as far as hiring and firing, well,
Speaker 2: certainly firing. And he had a couple interesting lines here.
Speaker 2: So I said to Arvin, can you find Dion's press conference?
Speaker 2: And here's a portion of Dion.
Speaker 15: Everything is expeditious in this country. Everyone wants the quick
Speaker 15: fix to quick things. You could you got mail or
Speaker 15: the brides too. Right you get married, you know right away,
Speaker 15: you can get a BBL. You could come into here
Speaker 15: flat flat as don't know what. And Lee Thick is
Speaker 15: a snicker. So it is this is a different country
Speaker 15: that we even live in. Man, ain't nobody got no
Speaker 15: patience no more? I understand that. And uh I don't either.
Speaker 15: I don't have patients as well. I want things done
Speaker 15: right now because I'm used to getting up that working,
Speaker 15: putting in the work, and you want the results from
Speaker 15: the work you.
Speaker 2: Put in thicker than a snicker the bbl's Brazilian butt lift. Oh,
Speaker 2: thank you, yes, BBL. Yes, I had not heard thicker
Speaker 2: than a snicker there, Marvin.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 9: In the community, it's oh it tales all this time.
Speaker 9: Oh it is like you know, ol girl, Yeah, she's
Speaker 9: think it in a snicker. Really, yeah, they it in
Speaker 9: cold oatmeal.
Speaker 2: Wow ah, all the food groups there.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you could use that if you want.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Let's me see Jim in Portland. Hi, Jim, what's on
Speaker 2: your mind today?
Speaker 13: Oh?
Speaker 11: So five ten, slim, one sixty five. And I just
Speaker 11: every time Dan says the backroom guys, to me, it
Speaker 11: sounds like you're saying the bathroom guys. And I thought
Speaker 11: I would make a good T shirt with Todd's little
Speaker 11: issue that he has.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you, Jim. The back room guys,
Speaker 2: not the bathroom guys.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: Cam in Florida, Good morning, Cam, what's on your mind?
Speaker 16: Hey?
Speaker 14: Jan it does. I was just want to chime in
Speaker 14: on the LSU coaching position. And I was thinking, I
Speaker 14: don't know the logistics would work on it, but I
Speaker 14: think Mike Comlin, I think it's times about over in
Speaker 14: Pittsburgh or what do you think about Mike commlins.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go down this road with Mike
Speaker 2: Tomlin because if you recall or you google it. I
Speaker 2: spoke to somebody at USC and they told me their
Speaker 2: wish list there and I was told that Mike Tomlin
Speaker 2: was on the list. So I gave you some of
Speaker 2: the names that USC was considering. Well, lo and behold,
Speaker 2: somebody brought it up to Mike at a press conference
Speaker 2: and he wasn't pleased with me. I wasn't saying that
Speaker 2: he was interested in the job. I was saying USC
Speaker 2: was interested in him.
Speaker 8: That was it.
Speaker 3: But Mike's not coming on the show anytime soon. Yes, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 9: If you're an NFL coach, what would attract you besides
Speaker 9: the observant amount of money to college football? Like, what
Speaker 9: would attract you to leave the NFL and a recruit
Speaker 9: and then deal with nil?
Speaker 2: No? No, nothing, No. I can't imagine Mike Tomlin having
Speaker 2: the patience to deal with that. He has a hard
Speaker 2: time dealing you know, with just questions at a press conference.
Speaker 2: It feels like but now I couldn't see him going.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna get away from the grind of
Speaker 2: the NFL and I'm gonna go to LSU. But no,
Speaker 2: I would not attach any job to Mike Tomlin. None,
Speaker 2: not just because I don't want somebody. Dan Patrick said
Speaker 2: that USC, you're inesit in USC, and I never said
Speaker 2: it that way. It was USC had a wish list
Speaker 2: and his name was on the wish list. Yes, Paul, I.
Speaker 7: Mean the NFL is so properly structured. There's free agency,
Speaker 7: there's caps, there's general managers who do all this stuff.
Speaker 7: You don't have to travel around places and talk to
Speaker 7: kids and parents. I mean, like Marvin said, I can't
Speaker 7: imagine the attraction unless you have to. I don't think
Speaker 7: Bill Belichick in any way wanted to be a college
Speaker 7: football coach. Not wanted to. No, that was his best option.
Speaker 2: Yes, when the Falcon said no to him, I said,
Speaker 2: he won't coach in the NFL again. Chad in Austin,
Speaker 2: I Chad, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5: Good?
Speaker 16: More than six eight two sixty telling about the LT
Speaker 16: job as well, and I'll bring us back to reality
Speaker 16: after that timeline suggestion, who I want as an LSU
Speaker 16: along This is Kelvin Shepherds. I know you just said,
Speaker 16: why would you go to college if you're in an NFL.
Speaker 16: He doesn't have a head coaching job yet. There's not
Speaker 16: a lot of you know, history of defensive coordinators, honestly,
Speaker 16: black defensive coordinators getting opportunities, you know, right away. And
Speaker 16: he went to LSU. He just you know, keep Frank
Speaker 16: Wilson on the staff, keep quarter Ramo on the staff,
Speaker 16: Maybe call coach O to coach the defensive line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Coach Oh is not going back. They're not going
Speaker 2: to have him back at LSU. Too much baggage. But
Speaker 2: the guy you're talking about is with the Lions. Yeah yeah, Paulin.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if you're the Lions defensive coordinator, I don't know.
Speaker 7: If you're leaving, you're on a fast track to be
Speaker 7: a head coach someday.
Speaker 2: Probably, Well, considering the last two coordinators got head coaching positions.
Speaker 7: Are winning all the time, you're you have a fifty
Speaker 7: to fifty shot within the next two years you get
Speaker 7: a head coach job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough to take somebody at a program like that.
Speaker 2: Who doesn't have prior head coaching experience. He might be
Speaker 2: an up and comer, but there's nothing like being a
Speaker 2: head coach and everything that goes along with that. And
Speaker 2: understand the totality of that. When you're the defensive coordinator,
Speaker 2: all I'm dealing with are those guys and the defense,
Speaker 2: and there's no interviews. I don't have to get in
Speaker 2: front of the media. I don't have to talk to
Speaker 2: the booster. I don't have to do any of that stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm not out there recruiting. You know, these are all
Speaker 2: the things that I wondered about Belichick going to college
Speaker 2: and dealing with you know, press conference, you got to
Speaker 2: deal with boosters, You got to deal with kids, kids, parents,
Speaker 2: you know, all of this stuff, all the minutia.
Speaker 7: Yeah, PAULI, I think the only attraction of head coach
Speaker 7: in the NFL is the money. I bet a lot
Speaker 7: of guys would love to stay as coordinators, So I
Speaker 7: just coach. I don't have to deal with that side stuff.
Speaker 2: You mean, the attraction in college is the money you make.
Speaker 2: You would stay as a coordinator in the NFL. Yeah,
Speaker 2: even both, even both.
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