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Speaker 2: Hour two on this Thursday, Dan and the dan ET's

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Speaker 2: Dan Patrick Show. Tomorrow night will be the first time

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers have faced elimination since Game four of the

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Speaker 2: NLDS last fall. Scoring opportunities few and far between, so

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Speaker 2: game five to fifth time. In the last eleven postseason games,

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers managed just two runs or less. And if

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Speaker 2: Dodgers are averaging three and a half runs per game.

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Speaker 2: Their last thirteen postseason games, they're averaging three and a

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Speaker 2: half runs. They have four runs in the last twenty

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Speaker 2: nine innings against the Blue Jays, and the blue Jays

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Speaker 2: aren't a pitching dominant team, They're a hitting team. So

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Speaker 2: now you go to Toronto with all that momentum on

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Speaker 2: a matchup between two teams looking to make a little noise.

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Speaker 2: Seahawks facing off against the Commander's Primetime Sunday seven Eastern

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Speaker 2: no on NBC and Peacock Last Hour. I talked about

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Speaker 2: talking to a handicapper in Vegas yesterday afternoon when we

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Speaker 2: talked about a couple of different things, a couple of

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Speaker 2: different sports, And I said, why are you guys in

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Speaker 2: love with the Ravens? And he says, I got the

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Speaker 2: Ravens to win the AFC North. Well, they played tonight.

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Speaker 2: They have two wins right now, and lo and behold

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Speaker 2: I DraftKings. I said, give me the odds on who's

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Speaker 2: gonna win the AFC North. The Ravens at minus one thirty,

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Speaker 2: Steelers plus one sixty, then the Bengals at plus eight hundred,

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Speaker 2: the Browns plus four thousand. Man, something's gonna happen here,

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Speaker 2: and it better start tonight. Favored by seven and a

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Speaker 2: half in Miami. But you know, the Sharps have been

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Speaker 2: on the Ravens for a little while now, like as

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Speaker 2: a a value pick. But they're favored by seven and

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Speaker 2: a half the over under fifty one and a half points.

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Speaker 2: We'll have the gambling podcast later on today with Shay

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Speaker 2: and Irving, Bad Larry and Dylan. That'll be available at

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Speaker 2: danpatrick dot com. All right, Satan poll question, let's clean

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Speaker 2: up hour one and head into hour two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got two up there right now. We have

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Speaker 4: more must win tonight for the Ravens or Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 4: Sixty one percent have the Ravens. And for the rest

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Speaker 4: of the World series, you have Blue Jayson, six Blue

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Speaker 4: Jays and seven or Dodgers in seven Blue Jays and

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Speaker 4: six right now, barely ahead of Blue Jays and seven.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, and then we got to keep those

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Speaker 2: up for this hour.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll roll with those for a little bit.

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Speaker 4: We'll probably get one here from the to double D

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Speaker 4: for a little fun a little bit later.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Yes, Todd is working on his Halloween names for tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: and I said, how about a rhyme time is what.

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Speaker 5: We will do? Both?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: Can you do that?

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Speaker 5: And featuring feats Dan Orlovski and you.

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Speaker 3: Could still be involved in and I can pay, and I.

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Speaker 6: Can pay attention where you can ask me a question,

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Speaker 6: I most take a name when you were looking for

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Speaker 6: a number, and vice versa.

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Speaker 2: What happened yesterday because I heard the first part.

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Speaker 5: Of the question and I took a chair.

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Speaker 6: I was in the middle of an email with the

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Speaker 6: NFL Newka something which I probably should have waited. I

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Speaker 6: definitely should have waited. Didn't have to be done at

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Speaker 6: that second. And I thought you were asking who is

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Speaker 6: the last person to play average eighty games or playing

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Speaker 6: eighty games? And I said Oscar Robertson. And you were

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Speaker 2: The number of players who played in Right.

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Speaker 5: I'm still not kidding, right, And I said Oscar Robertson.

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Speaker 6: So when you're looking for a number and someone says

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Speaker 6: a name, it certainly proves that they didn't catch the full.

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Speaker 2: Court Because we didn't talk about it afterwards. You didn't

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Speaker 6: I was moping more than I know. You addressing the

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Speaker 2: And I need you to kind of stay in the

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Speaker 5: It's not asking a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, after that, and do whatever you want.

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Speaker 5: I was bummed.

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Speaker 6: I was angry at myself, and I let it get

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Speaker 6: the better of my emotions.

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Speaker 7: Yes, well, I would say, Todd, if you had a

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Speaker 7: do over yesterday when we went to commercial break, I

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Speaker 7: would have walked right into Dan's side and said, my bad,

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Speaker 7: won't do it again. They didn't do it, and then

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Speaker 7: it goes away faster in my experience.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't do that.

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Speaker 4: Oddly, it had completely gone away until Todd brought it up.

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Speaker 2: No, I was still there.

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Speaker 8: Oh was it? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, simmering, Yes it was. He joked about it yesterday

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Speaker 2: and I didn't respond to his joke. When you sent

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Speaker 2: me an email or a text, that's true, and then

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Speaker 2: you put Oscar Robertson in there.

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Speaker 5: I should have just pulled the band aid off and

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Speaker 5: said my bad. I that's wasn't paying attention to. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'll learn for next time.

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Speaker 6: Actually I will be in that STI won't be next time.

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Speaker 6: I'll make sure I hear the entire question. I'll be

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Speaker 6: ready for any pop quiz, whether I'm raising my hand

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Speaker 6: or not?

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Speaker 4: Are Is this a prop bet on whether Todd will

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Speaker 4: learn for next time and then next time when this

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Speaker 4: does happen, Okay, he will not admit that mistake again.

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Speaker 3: Two and a half years.

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Speaker 2: The over unders two and a half years, I'll have

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Speaker 2: five more times.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a good chance that I will by

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Speaker 3: the end of the year.

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Speaker 8: Easy.

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Speaker 6: There's a good chance I will guess something wrong, but

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Speaker 6: I will apologize for it quicker or apologize at all.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you pay attention, then you don't have to apologize.

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Speaker 6: I just accept somehow, some way I'm going to end

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Speaker 6: up missing all of a sudden, You're gonna go, Todd,

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Speaker 6: what do you think I'm like thought, I thought we

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Speaker 5: A pop star.

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Speaker 3: I was working on the lookie for later. These things happen, okay,

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Speaker 2: Just stay focused, Okay.

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Speaker 5: I hope to not miss any of it.

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Speaker 2: And if you're going to send an email, send an

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Speaker 6: Yes, that was poor judgment on my part that I

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Speaker 6: and and you caught me off guard because I missed

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Speaker 6: the part of the question that you're asked, and I

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Speaker 6: gabbled instead of just saying, I should have just said

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Speaker 6: I didn't hear what you said. Then you could have

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Speaker 6: just said, why aren't you listening? As opposed to guessing

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Speaker 6: a name when you're looking for a number, that makes

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Speaker 6: it ten times worse.

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Speaker 2: It was funny though where you were I could tell

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Speaker 5: But I mean, off chance that maybe I'm writing you

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Speaker 6: Would have just been like, no, actually it was an

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Speaker 6: Oscar Operser, it was Frankie Jones, and then it would have.

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Speaker 3: Been fun Yes.

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Speaker 7: Well, now the irony is yesterday you wanted a number

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Speaker 7: and he gave a name. Two years ago during some

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Speaker 7: type of quiz, you wanted a name and he answered eleven.

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Speaker 3: Eleven, Now eleven and Oscar Roberts.

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Speaker 2: That was great haunting the eleven still is funny around here,

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Speaker 2: you know, when all else fails and we don't know

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Speaker 2: an answer. Even the back room guys they go eleven

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Speaker 2: yes to Speaking of numbers, do you hear about the

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Speaker 5: The kids are saying? This is like a big story.

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Speaker 6: I didn't hear about it until yesterday on the news,

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Speaker 6: but I guess for like last month or so, kids

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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean anything from some rap song.

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Speaker 6: Lyric or something, and everyone's giggling six to seven because

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Speaker 6: the adults don't get it, and they I think they're

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Paul, I'm not going to go too deep

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Speaker 7: into this, but it's at least four months old, this story,

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Speaker 7: and the kids are already past it. And my daughter

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Speaker 7: joked yesterday, when the adults get it, it's well over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, six to seven. Yeah, yeah, those kids, they're crazy.

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Speaker 6: A very popular old news stage in New York decided

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Speaker 6: yesterday they were breaking news about this six to seventh thing.

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Speaker 6: They had four months old and they're just finding out

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Speaker 6: about the kids saying six to seven.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll get phone calls coming up. Jay Billis

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Speaker 2: he was on the call for Victor Wembanyama game. Was

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Speaker 2: that opening night for Victor Wembanyama March okay, and Jay

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Speaker 9: He called them the greatest player ever. He did Okay,

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Speaker 9: no he didn't, but he just.

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Speaker 2: Didn't sound like it felt that way. Yeah, yes it did.

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Speaker 2: All right, here's another story. The Louisiana governor is Jeff Landry.

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Speaker 2: He told reporters yesterday that the LSU athletic director, Scott Woodward,

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Speaker 2: would not be involved in selecting LSU's next football coach,

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Speaker 2: saying he would let President Donald Trump do it before Woodward. Okay,

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Speaker 2: a joke, but still, this is your acting athletic director here.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 2: Of course, fired Brian Kelly. Now you've got a settlement here,

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Speaker 2: and Brian Kelly's going to walk away with perhaps fifty

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Speaker 2: four million dollars. And well, here is the governor yesterday

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Speaker 2: at the press conference.

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Speaker 10: This is a pattern. The guy that's here now, I

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Speaker 10: wrote that contract cost Texas A and M seventy some

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Speaker 10: million dollars. Right now, we got a fifty three million

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Speaker 10: dollar liability. We are not doing that again. And you

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Speaker 10: know what, I believe. I believe that we're going to find.

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Speaker 5: A great coach.

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Speaker 10: You know, I'm not going to be picking the next coach,

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Speaker 10: but I can promise you we're going to pick a

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Speaker 10: coach and we're going to make sure that that coach

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Speaker 10: is successful, and we're going to make sure that he's compensated. Properly,

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Speaker 10: and We're going to put metrics on it because I'm

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Speaker 10: tired of rewarding failure in this country and then leaving

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Speaker 10: the tax mey is you know, to foot the bill. Look,

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Speaker 10: my role is about the fiscal effect of firing a

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Speaker 10: coach under a terrible contract.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So he criticized Woodward, the athletic director, for greeing

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Speaker 2: to a ten year, ninety five million dollar contract with

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Speaker 2: Brian Kelly. LSU's on the hook for fifty four million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Woodward said that the school would quote continue to negotiate

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Speaker 2: Brian Kelly's separation and will work towards a path for

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Speaker 2: that's better for both parties now. The governor then also

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Speaker 2: criticized his athletic director for agreeing to a similar one

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Speaker 5: What about the taxes?

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Speaker 5: What are we gonna go?

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Speaker 2: Even if I give ten years Delane Kiffin, he's not

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Speaker 7: But he will never join your football team.

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Speaker 2: You know what at some point, I have to have

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Speaker 3: To end up. He will coach.

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Speaker 2: But if you're going to try to even Indiana with

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Speaker 2: And it's not his age, it's just I can't give

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Speaker 2: The only guy that you would ever consider this, or

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Speaker 2: Saban's not coming back to LSU. Urban Meyer. The one

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Speaker 2: these coaches are are going there. It's Lane Kiffin. That's it. Yeah, Paul,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you could look at it.

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Speaker 7: There's no reports, but if Dan Landing of Oregon put

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Speaker 3: But you're at Oregon, you're in the Big ten.

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Speaker 3: It feels like Lane Kiffin's gone.

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Speaker 2: It just feels like that. And I brought this up

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Speaker 9: That the LSU brass would put up with a lower level,

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Speaker 2: He is all right, I pump him up two more

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Speaker 2: So Austin Reeves had twenty eight the game winner and

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Speaker 9: No Anthony Edwards last night?

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Speaker 9: They sure did? Oh that's that's who Austin Reeves hit

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, well it's a good thing that they had him,

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Speaker 9: Future Hall of Famer Rudy Gobert.

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Speaker 2: He is, he's going to be a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 13: He is.

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Speaker 2: Because somebody had to be first team All Pro when

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Speaker 9: And all those defensive Player of the Year awards. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Wemby should have gotten it if he but he didn't

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Speaker 7: Yes, Paulie, this is gonna sound very harsh to Rudy Gobert,

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Speaker 7: But can you be a Hall of Famer but also

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Speaker 2: Well, no offense, okay, move on.

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Speaker 3: Is Jay billis with us Todd.

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Speaker 5: He's all set.

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Speaker 2: Jay billis. He has top in college basketball. As all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, I'm watching the Spurs game. There's Jay

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Speaker 2: last time you raved about somebody like you did Victor

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Speaker 8: Wow?

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Speaker 13: Probably Zion Williamson in college something like that, or Lebron

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Speaker 13: coming into the draft. You know, it's rare that that

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Speaker 13: I've never seen this before, and you know you're you're

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Speaker 13: But the only guy I could kind of compare when

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Speaker 13: He was standing next to Derek Lively the second of

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Speaker 2: How would you describe his game?

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Speaker 13: that has the skills of a six to one guard,

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Speaker 13: and he's he's become more physical to the point where

441
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 13: last year, I think he was shooting about eight almost

442
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 13: nine threes per game and half the amount of free throws.

443
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 13: And this year he's not taking near as many threes.

444
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 13: I mean he might be taking two a game, and

445
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 13: he's shooting a ton of free throws. I mean, he's

446
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,479
Speaker 13: playing his game more in the paint and making his

447
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 13: presence known from fifteen feet an end rather than outside

448
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,479
Speaker 13: of that area, and his effectiveness has gone way up.

449
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 13: But I just think he's learning how to be more

450
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 13: dominant in every aspect of the game. And he's only

451
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 13: going to get better as long as he stays healthy.

452
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Speaker 13: I mean he's twenty one years old, yeah, and he's

453
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 13: only going to get better. It's crazy.

454
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Speaker 2: How much of his development do you lean on where

455
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,439
Speaker 2: he played that he didn't go to college, but growing

456
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 2: up in academies, the pro development and the all around

457
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: development that that you find in Europe that you don't

458
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 2: necessarily find here in the United States.

459
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Speaker 13: I don't know that that's necessarily that big of a deal. Look,

460
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 13: I think we have in the United States. We've got

461
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 13: a skill development culture of late and more of an

462
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Speaker 13: AAU culture. So look, we're going to find something to

463
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Speaker 13: complain about. I mean, when we were in college, the

464
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 13: coaches complained that we played too much pickup ball and

465
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 13: we didn't do enough skill work. And now they're complaining

466
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 13: that they do too much skill work, they don't play

467
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 13: enough pickup nobody plays pick up anymore, and they don't

468
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 13: know how to play five on five. We're always going

469
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Speaker 13: to complain about something, But I think what we wind

470
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Speaker 13: up missing in this Dan, and I'm not saying you,

471
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Speaker 13: but you know, we tend to still have this narrative

472
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 13: that foreign players are doing things substantially different than we are,

473
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Speaker 13: instead of looking at it like since the ninety two

474
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 13: Olympics and the dream team basketball has exploded worldwide, we

475
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Speaker 13: still have most of the best players in.

476
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Speaker 8: The world, but we're not going to have them all anymore.

477
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Speaker 13: And the idea like right now the top five candidates

478
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 13: for MVP are all foreign born players, shake Guilders. Alexander

479
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 13: won it last year. He's Canadian. We're not going to

480
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 13: have all the best players anymore. That's just not going

481
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 13: to happen. The world's too big, and basketball is the

482
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Speaker 13: second most popular sport in the world behind soccer.

483
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Speaker 2: But if I put a non US five against a

484
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Speaker 2: US five, who would you take.

485
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Speaker 13: A non US five against the US five? Yeah, so

486
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 13: you're asking me the international team. I mean, I would

487
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Speaker 13: take Jokic, Wueban Yama, Doncic, Shake gild Justs, Alexander, that crew,

488
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 13: and they'd be really hard to beat. But we'd be competitive.

489
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Speaker 13: It's not like we wouldn't win. Like we're still winning

490
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Speaker 13: gold medals now. But the problem is, like the it's

491
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Speaker 13: kind of like the Ryder Cup. You can't have just

492
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Speaker 13: one country against the United States. We're still going to

493
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 13: win that. But if you take the rest of the

494
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 13: world combined, of course, of course that's going to be

495
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Speaker 13: a problem. But like if you know, if we were

496
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Speaker 13: just playing if the Ryder Cup, if the US Ryder

497
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 13: Cup team was just playing Great Britain and Ireland, now

498
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 13: we dominate. That's why they went to Europe. That's why

499
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Speaker 13: I say we still have most of the best players

500
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Speaker 13: in the world, the overwhelming majority we still have, but

501
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Speaker 13: we don't have them all.

502
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Speaker 2: I get also Yanis on that non y Yeah.

503
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Speaker 13: Yeah, Yanis, that's the time, thank you. That's the top

504
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 13: five I was talking about for MVP. And the first

505
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 13: American you're gonna mention American born player is probably going

506
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 13: to be Anthony Edwards of Minnesota, and he's further down

507
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Speaker 13: the list for MVP right now.

508
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Speaker 2: Talking to Jay Billis, he's got Duke in Texas on

509
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Speaker 2: November fourth and Kansas North Carolina November seventh. What did

510
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 2: you make a Cooper flag and his performance against the Spurs.

511
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Speaker 13: Good not great, but I I think you kind of

512
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 13: expect that a little bit like he had a couple

513
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 13: of things, if you want to say, working against him.

514
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 13: He was at eighteen, asked to play the point guard

515
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 13: position in his first NBA game, which certainly isn't an

516
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 13: easy transition to make.

517
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Speaker 8: He didn't play point at Duke.

518
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 13: He's got point guard skills, obviously, and he was being

519
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 13: guarded by Stefan Cassel, who's one of the handful of

520
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 13: the best defenders in the league in my view, and

521
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 13: that's a little bit of a.

522
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Speaker 8: Challenge for a player.

523
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Speaker 13: And then once if you do get by your initial defender,

524
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 13: you're running into wembin Yama. So that's a challenge. He's

525
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 13: had some really good games and really good moments, and

526
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Speaker 13: like most rookies, I think he's going to have his

527
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 13: up and downs throughout the year, but he's the real deal.

528
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Speaker 8: And what is He.

529
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Speaker 13: Averaged thirteen points, seven rebounds, whatever, And he's made some

530
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 13: great plays and he's made some that haven't been as great.

531
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Speaker 13: But I think as he gets adjusted and that won't

532
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 13: take too long to happen, he's going to establish himself

533
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 13: as one of the best players in the league.

534
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: Anything stand out from Austin Reeves when you saw him

535
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 2: in college?

536
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, So Austin Reeves started his career at Wichita State

537
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 13: and the first time I really saw him play. I

538
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 13: saw him before that, but when I really saw him

539
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 13: play was at Maui when he was witched on.

540
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 8: He had a shoulder injury.

541
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Speaker 13: And played through it, and my thought was, man, this

542
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 13: guy can really shoot it and he's tough. But did

543
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 13: I think, Okay, he's going to be a great NBA

544
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 13: player at that time?

545
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: No?

546
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 13: And then when he transferred to Oklahoma, you're going, man,

547
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 13: this guy can really play. But still you weren't thinking

548
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 13: like I wasn't. I wasn't like jumping banging my fist

549
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 13: on the table when he didn't get drafted, going what

550
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 13: are these guys doing?

551
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 8: You know, this is idiotic? How can you not draft

552
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 8: this guy?

553
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 13: That's happening more and more now where players tend to

554
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 13: blossom a little bit later, and you see more undrafted

555
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 13: players having success in the NBA because it's not all

556
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 13: about being a superstar. You know, you got the superstars

557
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 13: that are in a small category in the lottery. And then, uh,

558
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,719
Speaker 13: I think I heard one of my colleagues last night,

559
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 13: I think it was last night talking about, you know,

560
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 13: how did how did these guys go undrafted? How did

561
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 13: Nikola Jokic go in the second round? Well, I don't

562
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 13: remember any of those guys saying why why wasn't it

563
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 13: happening at the time. You know, scouting's not easy, and uh,

564
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 13: and you're gonna you're gonna miss, like all thirty teams

565
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 13: missed on Jokic in the first round. So it's not

566
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 13: like it's not like somebody's got a magic formula of

567
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 13: spotting this stuff in advance. You know, you do, you

568
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 13: do the best you can. But Austin Reeves is a

569
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 13: he's a stud, he's a he's a tough guy.

570
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: Who's the guy the player that you thought he was

571
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: going to be great and didn't turn out to be.

572
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 8: Thought was going to be great. God, there have been

573
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 8: a whole bunch of them.

574
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 13: I don't have one off the top of my head

575
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 13: Dan that I was like, Oh my god, I thought

576
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 13: this guy was going to be unbelievable.

577
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 8: I mean there's been there have been a.

578
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 13: Bunch that, you know, we scratched our heads the year

579
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 13: Anthony Bennett from YOUNLV was taken number one by Cleveland, Like,

580
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 13: I didn't see that coming, But I also didn't see

581
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 13: him being being out of the mix as quickly as

582
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 13: he was. I didn't see the Markel Foltstein coming, Like

583
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 13: who could have Who could have imagined that he have

584
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 13: sort of issues that weren't related to his talent that

585
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 13: would be so debilitating for him. But there have been

586
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 13: a lot of guys that that we've over like that.

587
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 13: The players are so young when you're evaluating them, it's

588
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 13: hard not to over project him at times because you've

589
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 13: seen other similar players, similar comps that did extraordinarily well,

590
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 13: and you go, man, he fits the suit of this guy,

591
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 13: so that that happens too. And that's why I think

592
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 13: the longer I've done this, uh, the more I've come

593
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 13: to come to realize for myself that you know, like

594
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 13: we're kind of guessing you do the best you can,

595
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 13: but you don't know you believe, like I believe this,

596
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 13: Like when Lebron came out, I felt like I knew, like,

597
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 13: but I've gone more to I really believe this.

598
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: Who's the best player in college basketball this year?

599
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 8: The best play?

600
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 13: Well, we've got an unbelievable group of freshmen that are

601
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 13: going to dominate the top of the draft. So BYU's

602
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 13: got aj Devantza, and Duke's got Cameron Boozer, Kansas has

603
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 13: h has Darren Peterson.

604
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 8: So all these guys are going to compete for the

605
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 8: number one pick.

606
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 13: If I had one player I could have for a team,

607
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 13: I would want Braden Smith to Purdue the point guard.

608
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 13: He's the best point guard in the country. And I

609
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 13: don't think it's close. And while a lot of people

610
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 13: around the college space are are bringing their hands and

611
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 13: predicting doomsday about you know that there are no rules,

612
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 13: and it's the wild world West and all that stuff,

613
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 13: which it's not. Purdue is keeping their players and they're

614
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 13: not they're not getting McDonald's All Americans every year and

615
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 13: they're winning at a really high level. So the idea,

616
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 13: you can't do it in this transactional world. I love

617
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 13: that word that work. Transactional. Can't have relations to butt anymore.

618
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 13: It's all transactional, as if as if a scholarship wasn't

619
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 13: a transaction. Those were transactions. Uh, but you can. You

620
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 13: can do it and quote unquote do it the right

621
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 13: way like Matt Painter does. You don't have to. You

622
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 13: don't have to you know, sell out and all that stuff.

623
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Speaker 13: It's possible. Good to talk to you, always, good to

624
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 13: talk to you. Thanks Dan, thanksbody. That's Jay Billis Jay

625
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 13: will be on the call.

626
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: Duke in Texas on November fourth, Kansas, North Carolina. November seventh,

627
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: he called the Victor wind Benielma Spurs game against the

628
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: MAVs and Cooper Flay. Anthony Davis is injured again. Now

629
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: that's a guy going to be a Hall of Famer,

630
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: But I don't know if I want him on my

631
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: team just because he shows you the glimpses and you go,

632
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: oh my god, and then he doesn't play. You know,

633
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: when Barkley gives you the nickname street Clothes, that's not

634
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: a good thing name.

635
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 9: Yes, Mark, Well, there's a different there's a difference between

636
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 9: Anthony Davis and Rudy Gobert. You know, Anthony Davis can

637
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 9: play and be a big part of a winning team.

638
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 9: Rudy Gobert is just tall.

639
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: Well he's still he's Defensive Player of the Year what

640
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: four times?

641
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 3: But who's playing defense? Well, you need to have that

642
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: rim protector, Marven.

643
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 9: They love that at the draft.

644
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: You gotta he's a rim protector.

645
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, yes, mart In the Olympics, Rudy Gobert was on

646
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 9: the bench in the game.

647
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 3: You don't have to tell me.

648
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: I kept saying, you can't have these center too forwards,

649
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: two guards. Basketball is not that anymore. And you were

650
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: recognizing guys because well, we got to have a center.

651
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: Who's it going to be Rudy Gobert. I'd be like, Okay,

652
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: he's not one of the top fifteen players in the league.

653
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: Defensive player of the Year, Okay, Yes.

654
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 9: Marvin DeAndre Jordan was first team All NBA one year.

655
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Speaker 9: No knock to him, but not first team all NBA.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I had to have a center, Yeah, Paul Shop.

657
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 7: Blocking is pretty dead in the NBA. Besides when Benyama

658
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 7: he's at four point eight. The only one over to

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Speaker 7: is Miles Turner of Milwaukee. There it used to be

660
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Speaker 7: there'd always be a bunch of guys in the threes

661
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Speaker 7: and fours with Blocksberg.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if guys are going for him anymore.

663
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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know, and I don't know. You know,

664
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Speaker 2: how many guys take it to the basket, But I

665
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Speaker 2: don't know if you're you know, do I want to

666
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Speaker 2: go for that?

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Speaker 8: You know?

668
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Speaker 2: How about I wait for the rebound here? But yeah,

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Speaker 2: you don't find too many guys attacking the hoop the

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Speaker 2: way they once did. All right, let me take a break.

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676
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Speaker 2: hearing from a couple people saying, can you still not

677
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Speaker 2: pitch to show? Hey, o'tani, I'm like, at your risk. Now,

678
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Speaker 2: he didn't look good last night because everybody was, Oh,

679
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Speaker 2: everybody's saying the same thing. You you can't pitch to Otani.

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Speaker 2: I'll leave that to you at your own risk and

681
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Speaker 2: your pitching staff.

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Speaker 3: How about we wait till the World Series is over.

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Speaker 2: Okay, history is on my side of maybe you don't

684
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Speaker 2: want to pitch to Otani. But as I said yesterday,

685
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Speaker 2: maybe we should be getting to the point. Don't pitch

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Speaker 2: to Vlad Guerrero. I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Right now if.

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Speaker 2: You said you can pitch to Otani or Blad, I

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Speaker 2: would pitch to Otani before I would Vlad Guerrero. He's

690
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Speaker 2: been unbelievable. Can we play the sound of a Vlad

691
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Speaker 2: Guerrero home run last night?

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Speaker 8: Hey?

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Speaker 1: You want Lottie rocks the ball like feeling deep.

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Speaker 14: Back to the wall. It is good again, back to.

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Speaker 1: Back class in the first three pitches, the Blue Jays plea.

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Speaker 2: Do nothing. You can just hear that sound. Just hear

697
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: it even through the crowd. You know, the crowd noise

698
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: there and just certain sounds.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 2: That's why you know when Otani gave up the home

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Speaker 2: run to Vlad, like he whipped his head around really quickly,

702
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Speaker 2: and Otani, of all people should have known, oh that's gone.

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Speaker 2: But you don't want to do this where you throw

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Speaker 2: the pitch, hits the home run and then you just

705
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Speaker 2: asked for the ball from the umpire like you have

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Speaker 2: to give it a little of.

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Speaker 3: Man, did he get all of that? Yes, he did

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Speaker 3: take another ball?

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Speaker 2: Please. I quoted Dion Sanders yesterday and I said to Marvin,

710
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Speaker 2: Dion had to say this to cameras or radio people.

711
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Speaker 2: And he was talking about that nobody has any patience

712
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: in college football as far as hiring and firing, well,

713
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 2: certainly firing. And he had a couple interesting lines here.

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Speaker 2: So I said to Arvin, can you find Dion's press conference?

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Speaker 2: And here's a portion of Dion.

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Speaker 15: Everything is expeditious in this country. Everyone wants the quick

717
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 15: fix to quick things. You could you got mail or

718
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 15: the brides too. Right you get married, you know right away,

719
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Speaker 15: you can get a BBL. You could come into here

720
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Speaker 15: flat flat as don't know what. And Lee Thick is

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Speaker 15: a snicker. So it is this is a different country

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Speaker 15: that we even live in. Man, ain't nobody got no

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Speaker 15: patience no more? I understand that. And uh I don't either.

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Speaker 15: I don't have patients as well. I want things done

725
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Speaker 15: right now because I'm used to getting up that working,

726
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 15: putting in the work, and you want the results from

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Speaker 15: the work you.

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Speaker 2: Put in thicker than a snicker the bbl's Brazilian butt lift. Oh,

729
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 2: thank you, yes, BBL. Yes, I had not heard thicker

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Speaker 2: than a snicker there, Marvin.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: In the community, it's oh it tales all this time.

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Speaker 9: Oh it is like you know, ol girl, Yeah, she's

734
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Speaker 9: think it in a snicker. Really, yeah, they it in

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Speaker 9: cold oatmeal.

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Speaker 2: Wow ah, all the food groups there.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you could use that if you want.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Let's me see Jim in Portland. Hi, Jim, what's on

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Speaker 2: your mind today?

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Speaker 13: Oh?

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Speaker 11: So five ten, slim, one sixty five. And I just

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00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 11: every time Dan says the backroom guys, to me, it

744
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,479
Speaker 11: sounds like you're saying the bathroom guys. And I thought

745
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Speaker 11: I would make a good T shirt with Todd's little

746
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 11: issue that he has.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you, Jim. The back room guys,

748
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Speaker 2: not the bathroom guys.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Cam in Florida, Good morning, Cam, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 16: Hey?

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Speaker 14: Jan it does. I was just want to chime in

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Speaker 14: on the LSU coaching position. And I was thinking, I

754
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Speaker 14: don't know the logistics would work on it, but I

755
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Speaker 14: think Mike Comlin, I think it's times about over in

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Speaker 14: Pittsburgh or what do you think about Mike commlins.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to go down this road with Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin because if you recall or you google it. I

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00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: spoke to somebody at USC and they told me their

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Speaker 2: wish list there and I was told that Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 2: was on the list. So I gave you some of

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Speaker 2: the names that USC was considering. Well, lo and behold,

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Speaker 2: somebody brought it up to Mike at a press conference

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Speaker 2: and he wasn't pleased with me. I wasn't saying that

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Speaker 2: he was interested in the job. I was saying USC

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Speaker 2: was interested in him.

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Speaker 8: That was it.

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Speaker 3: But Mike's not coming on the show anytime soon. Yes, yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 9: If you're an NFL coach, what would attract you besides

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Speaker 9: the observant amount of money to college football? Like, what

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Speaker 9: would attract you to leave the NFL and a recruit

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Speaker 9: and then deal with nil?

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Speaker 2: No? No, nothing, No. I can't imagine Mike Tomlin having

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Speaker 2: the patience to deal with that. He has a hard

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Speaker 2: time dealing you know, with just questions at a press conference.

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Speaker 2: It feels like but now I couldn't see him going.

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00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna get away from the grind of

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00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: the NFL and I'm gonna go to LSU. But no,

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00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: I would not attach any job to Mike Tomlin. None,

780
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Speaker 2: not just because I don't want somebody. Dan Patrick said

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Speaker 2: that USC, you're inesit in USC, and I never said

782
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: it that way. It was USC had a wish list

783
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: and his name was on the wish list. Yes, Paul, I.

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Speaker 7: Mean the NFL is so properly structured. There's free agency,

785
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 7: there's caps, there's general managers who do all this stuff.

786
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 7: You don't have to travel around places and talk to

787
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Speaker 7: kids and parents. I mean, like Marvin said, I can't

788
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Speaker 7: imagine the attraction unless you have to. I don't think

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Speaker 7: Bill Belichick in any way wanted to be a college

790
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Speaker 7: football coach. Not wanted to. No, that was his best option.

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Speaker 2: Yes, when the Falcon said no to him, I said,

792
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Speaker 2: he won't coach in the NFL again. Chad in Austin,

793
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Speaker 2: I Chad, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 5: Good?

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Speaker 16: More than six eight two sixty telling about the LT

796
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Speaker 16: job as well, and I'll bring us back to reality

797
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 16: after that timeline suggestion, who I want as an LSU

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00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 16: along This is Kelvin Shepherds. I know you just said,

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Speaker 16: why would you go to college if you're in an NFL.

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Speaker 16: He doesn't have a head coaching job yet. There's not

801
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Speaker 16: a lot of you know, history of defensive coordinators, honestly,

802
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 16: black defensive coordinators getting opportunities, you know, right away. And

803
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Speaker 16: he went to LSU. He just you know, keep Frank

804
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Speaker 16: Wilson on the staff, keep quarter Ramo on the staff,

805
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 16: Maybe call coach O to coach the defensive line.

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00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, Coach Oh is not going back. They're not going

807
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: to have him back at LSU. Too much baggage. But

808
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Speaker 2: the guy you're talking about is with the Lions. Yeah yeah, Paulin.

809
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Speaker 7: Yeah, if you're the Lions defensive coordinator, I don't know.

810
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 7: If you're leaving, you're on a fast track to be

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Speaker 7: a head coach someday.

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Speaker 2: Probably, Well, considering the last two coordinators got head coaching positions.

813
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 7: Are winning all the time, you're you have a fifty

814
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Speaker 7: to fifty shot within the next two years you get

815
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Speaker 7: a head coach job.

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00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough to take somebody at a program like that.

817
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: Who doesn't have prior head coaching experience. He might be

818
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 2: an up and comer, but there's nothing like being a

819
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: head coach and everything that goes along with that. And

820
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Speaker 2: understand the totality of that. When you're the defensive coordinator,

821
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: all I'm dealing with are those guys and the defense,

822
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: and there's no interviews. I don't have to get in

823
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: front of the media. I don't have to talk to

824
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: the booster. I don't have to do any of that stuff.

825
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: I'm not out there recruiting. You know, these are all

826
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Speaker 2: the things that I wondered about Belichick going to college

827
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Speaker 2: and dealing with you know, press conference, you got to

828
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Speaker 2: deal with boosters, You got to deal with kids, kids, parents,

829
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Speaker 2: you know, all of this stuff, all the minutia.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, PAULI, I think the only attraction of head coach

831
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Speaker 7: in the NFL is the money. I bet a lot

832
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Speaker 7: of guys would love to stay as coordinators, So I

833
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Speaker 7: just coach. I don't have to deal with that side stuff.

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Speaker 2: You mean, the attraction in college is the money you make.

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Speaker 2: You would stay as a coordinator in the NFL. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: even both, even both.

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Speaker 3: Two hours in the books.

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Speaker 2: One more to go Ross Tucker, Our good buddy will

839
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Speaker 2: join us seton. Fritzie Hallie Arvin, yours truly