1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome to move the sticks, DJ and 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Bucky back with you and Buck. We've got a fun 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: episode today planned out. It just uh, it came at 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: the right time because we just got some news about 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins making a quarterback switch. Yeah, the Miami Dolphins. 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: The name to a talk about Looa the starting quarterback. 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: They have a bye this week, but when they return 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: against the L A. Rams, he is going to be 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. And it brings up an interesting discussion, 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: one that typically is not had. But he's a left 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: handed quarterback, and typically we don't see left ended quarterback 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: start in the National Football League. So what we decided 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: to do was talk to some of the greats that 15 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: have either played the position, coach the position, guys who 16 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: are left handed to just get their field on what 17 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: it is to be a left handed quarterback. And so 18 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: in our conversations we'll explain the different spin to different mechanics. 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: Talk to five different players quarterbacks, three quarterbacks, one wide receiver, 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: one hey coach, just trying to find out the differences 21 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: between having a left end to spinner and a right 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: hindo spinner in that stupor yeah, those guests that Bucky 23 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: was hinting at their boomers Scias and Chris Collins with 24 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: Mark Bronel, Steve Mariucci and Michael vick Um to give 25 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: us an interesting perspective on you know, throwing the balls 26 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: left hander, setting up an offense for left handed quarterback 27 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: and catching the ball from the left hand quarterback. It's 28 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: just a little different. We don't see it very often. 29 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: But before we get to the guests, buck your your 30 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: thoughts on the timing of the move because to me, 31 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: I I know that Fits is coming off a game 32 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: where he played, you know, plenty good enough as they 33 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: destroyed the New York Jets. But I've always been a 34 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: believer when you're a team that's not gonna necessarily, you know, 35 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: chase a championship, you don't give away reps. And right now, 36 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: I think when Tua has shown that he's healthy Um 37 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: coming off of the injury had at the end of 38 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: the season in Alabama, he looked good and just a 39 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of a couple of snaps he 40 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: got at the end of the game against the Jets. 41 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: But the fact that he's healthy. I think now you 42 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: have meaningful reps to position, so it's no knock on fits. 43 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: Fits to a nice job for what he was asked 44 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: to do there. But giving reps to fits does not 45 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: help your future, No, not that. Also, I think Fitz 46 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: was beginning to come back to earth. I think when 47 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: you started to see him turn the ball over and 48 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: back to back games, well not back to games, because 49 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: you played pretty well against forty nine, but when you 50 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: start seeing to return it over, it's time. It's time. 51 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: And it was two a time. And I think what 52 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: you said really makes a lot of sense when we 53 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: have seen the National Football League make a change where 54 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks are getting on the field sooner rather than later. 55 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: And so put two on the field. See what you 56 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: have into a tongue about lowers. So now in the 57 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: off season you know where you need to remedy or 58 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: rebuild this offense. Is it scheme, is it play called, 59 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: is it playmakers or protection? Whatever that is you want 60 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: to see him play, so you can make that evaluation. 61 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: And so after the bye week where he gets a 62 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: full week and a half two weeks of practice to 63 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: prepare for the first start, this is the perfect opportunity, 64 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: and then I think this is where everyone identified as 65 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: the likely move for him to go in because it's 66 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: the bye week and that's when you typically make moves 67 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: with your young quarterbacks. Yeah, and I think it's a 68 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: mature decision because decision should be made not when Ryan 69 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick's play falls off, but when tutnovl Ap proves that 70 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: he's ready, and that to me was the threshold. Once 71 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: he proved he was ready, you go with him. And 72 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: I think when you look at some of the other 73 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: situations around the league, obviously Joe Burrow starts with day 74 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: one because that was you know, that was an obvious 75 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: easy call for them as the first overall pick. But 76 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: I think justin Herbert when he got on the field 77 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: for the Chargers and met that threshold and more than 78 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: exceeded the threshold to say, Okay, he's not gonna drown here. 79 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 1: Let's get him some meaningful reps this season, and it's 80 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: it's you know, the winds haven't come for the Chargers, 81 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: but you're seeing the growth and improvement in your young quarterback, 82 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: which is gonna make that a valuable season. And I 83 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: think that's where the Dolphins are as well. Yeah, I 84 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: think the Dolphics are absolutely at that at that spot. 85 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: There at a point where they want to get him there, 86 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: and they're sitting at three and three. And I mean, 87 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: we saw the Buffalo Bills play on Monday night. They 88 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to get in the mix, the Buffalo 89 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: Bills of one game ahead of them. If to A 90 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: just plays and he doesn't have to play like in 91 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: an A level, but if he plays well, this defense 92 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: is good enough and they appear to have enough weapons 93 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: on the perimeter to help him succeed. And so yeah, 94 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: put him on the field. Let's get it going. All right, 95 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: Let's get to the discussion here, because again it's rare 96 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: that we see left handed quarterbacks. It's just different. So 97 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: what does that mean? What does that look like? We 98 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: had a chance to visit with some phenomenal guests. I 99 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: want to hear from our first one here. This is 100 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 1: a former NFL m v P left handed quarterback, Boomer Assissin. 101 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: If you're building the scene, what are the differences when 102 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: you have a quarterback that's left handed as opposed to 103 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: a guy that is right handed, Because we just haven't 104 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: seen it in the league in a long time. Yeah, 105 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: I know. I I often asked my receivers if it 106 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: was that much of a difference catching the ball for me. 107 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: You know, after about a week they got used to it. 108 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: You know, Chris Collins R. Used to be complying that 109 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: I threw the ball high, you know, and I would 110 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: just say, just go up and get it. For God's take, 111 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: that's what we're paying for it paying you for. But 112 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of a different it's a little 113 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: bit different of the dynamic. The ball comes out of 114 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: our hands a little bit differently, and it comes from 115 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: a different arm angle and slot. And you know, if 116 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: you're not used to playing with a left hander, I 117 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,799 Speaker 1: could see how that could be a little bit, uh 118 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: uncomfortable at the beginning. But when you watch two of 119 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: down at Alabama and you watch the guys who's got 120 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: two great wide receivers playing with him, and they don't 121 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: seem to have a problem. And the reason they don't 122 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: have a problem is because he's so highly accurate and 123 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: he throws such a catchable ball. I mean, the ball 124 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: just kind of melts in their hands when it hits them, 125 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: and very rarely is he off target. And if he 126 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: is off target, it maybe an inch here, an inch there, 127 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: maybe a back shoulder throw or something. Well, Buck, I 128 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: love the phrase the ball melts. I mean, that's that's 129 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: how you. I don't know that's necessarily a bad thing. 130 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: I think when the ball, the ball melts, I kind 131 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: of like a ball the melt in my hands if 132 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: I was a receiver. Yeah, it's it really speaks to 133 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: his ability to throw a catchable ball. That's how we 134 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: kind of use in scales verbiage. Those are very catchable ball. 135 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: It's very easy for um, the wide receivers to take 136 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: it in. It doesn't overwhelm them, overpower them. Um Boomersson 137 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: would know because he also was a guy that I 138 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: would say it wasn't necessarily the hardest for it, but 139 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: he did a really good job of putting the ball 140 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: where it needs to be put Um with two I 141 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: think it's interesting, uh to see kind of how it, 142 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: uh it will translate and how these guys would get 143 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: comfortable with the left hand is spent it to him 144 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: from a different different angle. Yeah, it's just it's just 145 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: a little bit different. And when Boomer Sisson was throwing 146 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: the ball as well as he threw it, guy who 147 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: was catching a lot of those passes was Chris Collinsworth. 148 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: You know him. A lot of folks don't even realize 149 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: that him as a player because they then him so 150 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: well as a as a broadcaster and the work that 151 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: he does on Sunday Night Football without Michaels on NBC. 152 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: But Chris Collinsworth was a very good wide receiver who 153 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: caught a lot of balls from a left handed quarterback. 154 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: We had a chance to visit with him about it. 155 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: You play with Boomer Sisen and Cincinnati Booersisen as a 156 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: left handed quarterback. We don't see many left handed quarterbacks 157 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: in the league who we're talking about. Lawa obviously is 158 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: left handed as a wide receiver. In a pass catcher, 159 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: what's the differences with the ball coming from a left 160 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: hand as opposed to a right hand because it moves 161 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: the other way. I don't know, Bucky, if you've ever 162 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: tried to catch a punt from a left footed putter 163 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: like so, I returned punts in high school and college 164 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: and they never trusted me in the NFL and do it, 165 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: so I didn't need to do it there. But so 166 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: with a punter when they punt it and you know 167 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: you're you're used to the ball are going up and 168 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: sort of curbing off to the right right, and so 169 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: when it's a left footed punter, it does the opposite 170 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: that comes up and goes this way. So the distance 171 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: between the two never done this on TV is pretty cool. 172 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: So the difference between the two can be five or 173 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: six yards right, so you're you're looking at instead of 174 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: it being three yards this way, it's three yards that way. 175 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: On the punt. Well, the same thing happens on deep 176 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: balls with with a left handed quarterback. So now instead 177 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: of the natural curve coming off this way, the curve 178 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: is coming off this way. And so balls that you 179 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: ordinarily would wait and fade over your shoulder and try 180 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: and catch now all of a sudden are being caught 181 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: in front of you. And so it's a difference. But 182 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: probably the hardest thing for me was the rotation of 183 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: the ball. So the ball is spinning the other way, 184 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: so is a from a right handed passer. You're predominantly 185 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: catching the ball with your right hand, So that feels 186 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: that to me, always felt like the pressure point of 187 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: catching the ball from a right hander. So your whole life, 188 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: that's all you did. You just caught the ball, you know, 189 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: sort of with your right hand three quarters and your 190 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: left hand a quarter. Now left hand quarterback comes along, 191 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: and now you're catching at three quarters with your left 192 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: hand and one quarter with your right hand, which is 193 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: completely opposite of what you're used to doing over the 194 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: entirety of your career. And plus Boomer through the ball 195 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: about four hundred miles an hour. He threw everything a 196 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: little bit high. And it was, I mean, the first 197 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: game he ever played that we ever played together with 198 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: him as a starter. He threw me seventeen passes in 199 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: that game, and about the third one was so high 200 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: and I jumped up and the guy did they all 201 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: flip me over thing. And by the end of this 202 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: game the next day that she sent a massuse to 203 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: my house to get I. She she comes up a 204 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: knox on the door and I literally crawled to the 205 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: front door. I can't I can't get out of bed, 206 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: I can't walk, I can't do anything. And this let 207 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: with a bed. She's carrying a bed and she's sitting 208 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: there and she said, Boomer set me for you. And 209 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: I said, hey, I really appreciate it, but I'm too 210 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: tired and beat up for even that. And she goes no, 211 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm in a SIUs. I said, we'll get in here. 212 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: Come on, what do you do? It's fantastic. I thought 213 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: it was great that he brought up the point about 214 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: the left footed punters. I mean think the Patriots obviously 215 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: have done that forever, and it is just a different spin. 216 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: And I think, again, it's just gonna be reps. You 217 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: might see some drops early on here with two and 218 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: once he gets into the lineup, just because it's just 219 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: gonna take a little getting used to DJ I would 220 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: I would relate it to being in the batter's box 221 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: dealing with the left ended pitch and how the ball 222 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: kind of tails away. It has a natural break to it, 223 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: and for a lot of these wide receivers, they have 224 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: to get used to the ball breaking away from how 225 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: they're normally used to the ball spinning into them. It 226 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: goes away from them, and so it'll take some time, 227 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: but it shouldn't be a major adjustment. I think the 228 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: one area where you will have to adjustice on the 229 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: deep ball. I think the deep ball requires a little 230 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: bit of adjustment because as you talk about as as 231 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: he talked about, like the left footed punter and the 232 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: spin and how it kind of tails at the end. 233 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: Your deep ball will do some of those things, and 234 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: so it just takes time, it takes practice. But UM, 235 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. Man. I'm just fascinated by the left 236 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: ended thing. All right, let's get to our next conversation. 237 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: Here another quarterback who was actually the comparison for me 238 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: when I watched to it, which was Mark Burnell, somebody 239 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,479 Speaker 1: you've known for a long time. Um, was an outstanding 240 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: quarterback nineteen years in the National Football League at the 241 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: quarterback position as a left He did it with the Packers, 242 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: the Jags, Washington, the Saints, and the Jets. He's a 243 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions at three time Pro bowler, actually led 244 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: the league in passing artage in nineteen nineties six. Here's 245 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: our chat with Mark Burnell. You know, Mark, is funny 246 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: because you talked about the athleticism and the mobility. I 247 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: kind of want to get your insight on being a 248 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: left hander because we haven't seen many left handed quarterbacks 249 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: in the league and coaches to talk about some of 250 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: the differences. Um, in your mind, when you work with teammates, 251 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: how have you had to help them adjust to the 252 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: ball coming out a little differently because you're left handed 253 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: as opposed to right hand. It's really simple, book. It's 254 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: a great question, um, the good receivers, the guys that 255 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: could catch and believe it or not, there's some guys 256 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: in the NFL that that aren't as good as other 257 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: as that catching the ball. The good ones never had 258 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: a problem with it. Really, um never mentioned it at all. 259 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: You know, I was fortunate to have Jimmy Smith and 260 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: Keeno McCardell and and uh uh, some real good receivers 261 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: in my time. And those guys never one time said 262 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: that you had to adjust the ball does this? They 263 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: just had a They just found a way to catch 264 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: the ball. Now, there were some guy that that you know, 265 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: didn't stick around very long that had tough time catching 266 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: the left handed ball. And because I mean they had 267 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: to adjust. To me, I wouldn't change him for them, 268 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: that would have been that would have been impossible. But 269 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: they didn't stick around very long if they couldn't catch 270 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: the messed up spin. But but if you're a good receiver, 271 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter which way it spins you you find 272 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: a way to catch it. Well, I think he explained 273 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: it pretty well there, Buck. I mean, look, the good 274 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: ones not gonna have a problem. The bad ones are 275 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: gonna struggle. I mean, I think that is what it is, right, Yeah, 276 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: it is what it is. But I think he was 277 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: fortunate enough to play with two really good guys and 278 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith and Keena McCardell, and they were able to 279 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: make plays. And the connection that he had with Jimmy 280 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: Smith was outstanding. At the time, Jimmy Smith might have 281 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: been already we won the top five receivers in football. 282 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: And to position him on the left side and to 283 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: watch them repeatedly throw quick house, speedoutse and bangate skinny 284 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: posts over and over and over again to the back 285 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: side of the defense, they just wore people out. And 286 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: you know he was able to do it. He was 287 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: able to do it successfully. He'd be in to see 288 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: like if Ta prefers to work on the left side 289 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: of the field like Mark did, because Mark was very 290 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: left dominant, and so from the defensive standpoint, you used 291 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: to the quarterback kind of working on the other side. 292 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: So to come back typically where you have maybe you're 293 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: a weaker corner, that's atypical, it's not it's not the 294 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: way that you normally face quarterbacks. And that's how where 295 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: they normally want to target to feel. Now the comparison 296 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: for me though with those two quarterbacks and not just 297 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: being left handed with with two and Burnell, but they 298 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: both played with tremendous urgency. Um. You see it in 299 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: their footwork. There's just a Christmas to the way that 300 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: they played. Very decisive. Uh you know, there's just again, 301 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: I just keep coming back to that word urgent. When 302 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: you watch them work through progressions, everything has got a 303 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: real firm feel to it. Um. And then when the 304 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: ball comes out, it's just a real pretty ball. Bronk 305 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: Pernell through a beautiful ball. I think to it does 306 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: as well, Um, I don't. I always have said, you know, 307 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: left handed batters have the prettiest swings. You think about 308 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: Kim GRIFFI Jr, Tony Gwen some of those beautiful left 309 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: handed swings. I kind of feel the same way about 310 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: left handed quarter backs. I think when you got a 311 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: nice stroke, looks good. Yeah, it looks good because it's 312 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: different and you focus on it. I think that's that's 313 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: the deal. Because you don't see it a lot. You 314 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: don't see the ball come out of the left hand 315 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: his hand. As a quarterback, I think you look at 316 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: it oh, man, look at that. It it's different, so 317 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: let me appreciate it a little more than you would 318 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: with the right hand. Yeah, I know, our and our producer, 319 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: Mark is probably not happy. It didn't mention Wade Boggs 320 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: when it came to the left handed Strawberry. Oh, Darryl Strawberry. Yeah, Well, 321 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: I think Daryl Strawberry swing was prettier than Wade bugs swing. 322 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: Wade Boggs a little more of an average guy, but 323 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: average hitter. But I like Straws swing. And now Mark's 324 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: chiming in with Will Clark. Yeah, Will the Thrill had 325 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: a nice, nice swing as well. We could do left 326 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: handed swings all day long, but all day, all day, 327 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: all day. I can relate to that. Steve Murray uctually 328 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: certainly knows left ended quarterbacks better than anybody because he 329 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: coached a Hall of Famer and Steve Young. So I 330 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: had a chance to catch up with him and talk 331 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: to him about the left handed quarterback and the differences 332 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: between coach and the right hand and the left hand coach. 333 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: You mentioned something that I don't think many people understand. 334 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: The challenges are differences between using a right handed quarterback 335 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: like you had in four and then coaching the left 336 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: handed quarterback. When you're the hand coach and the play caller, 337 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: what's different about coaching a left handed quarterback. Yeah, that's uh. 338 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if I if I've 339 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: been blessed or cursed with lefties around me. Okay, I 340 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: don't know. My wife's left handed, my mom's left handed, 341 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: my daughter's left handed, my brother's left handed, everybody's left handed. 342 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: I thought there'd be fifty percent of the world left 343 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: handed right handed. Doesn't that make sense genetically? And then 344 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: with quarterbacks, we haven't had a guy in the league 345 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: play left handed quarterback in years. It's like we're all 346 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: left he's going had Steve Young and then add Mark 347 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: Burnell over there in Green Bay when we were together, 348 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: and it is a challenge. In fact, one one one 349 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: year after the UH the season was over, I told Steve, 350 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: I said, listen, I want you to work on going 351 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: right handed this offseason. Okay, so I don't have to 352 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't have to flip every play over just for you. 353 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: And if your backup is left handed like Burnell was, Okay, 354 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: you remember when Farve was starting and then we had 355 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: two backups. We had tied Hittmer and Mark Burnell loved 356 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: them both, I mean love these guys, and we couldn't 357 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: decide who should be the backup and who should be 358 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: the third guy, who's who's inactive. So what we did 359 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: we alternated just to keep them both happy. We alternated. 360 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: But that messes you up because when you're on the 361 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: goal line, you don't run past six four youth corner quarterback, 362 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, one way, and then you've got to practice 363 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: the other way. For for the left handers that you 364 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: do it spread right option, sprint left option. You know, 365 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: you gotta flip your play action and movements and that's 366 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: a third of your package maybe more, and you you 367 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: simply have to flip them over right and left if 368 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: you're right handed or left handed. So um, it creates 369 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of a practice issue, and for everybody, 370 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: not just for the quarterback. And so you know, the 371 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: ball spinds different, it's different for the receive. It's just 372 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: like a left footed punter. Left footed punters are hard 373 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: to catch yet and the fall spins wrong, and so 374 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: same with a quarterback throwing left hand, the ball spins 375 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: just the opposite way. Coaches, is funny that you mentioned 376 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: that because from a play call in perspective, like, I 377 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: don't know if people really understand that because most play 378 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: callers are right handed, because you're a quarterback or right handed, 379 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: meaning you run the ball primarily to the right, your 380 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: primary fast catchers maybe on the right, opin and all 381 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: how you set your formations. Then with the lefty you 382 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: have to completely flip that. So in your preparation process, 383 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: like how much how much does that linger? How much 384 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: that play into how you build out your game, friend 385 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: and those things with a left hand. Absolutely, it's it's 386 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: it's your game plan, it's your it's like I said, though, 387 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: it's it's not as much in the drop back passing game, 388 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: all right, when you go straight back, you ought to 389 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: be able to throw front side or backside, whether you're 390 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: right handed or left handed. Right, But it's the play 391 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: action game, and it's the movement and keep the game 392 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: we Like I mentioned sprint right option. That's the famous 393 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: player that Joe Montana hit the light clark in the 394 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: back of the end zone to meet the Cowboys. All right, 395 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: Jerry Rice scored thirty three touchdowns on sprint right option. Okay, 396 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: and far through them one in the Pro Bowl, But 397 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: you would only throw that to the right with Brett Farve, 398 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: and you would only throw it to the left with 399 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: Steve except one time Bret far audible to Q nine 400 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: Q nine min left. He yelled at me for about 401 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: a half game because we never practiced that. He just 402 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: did it against the Broncos. It's like rest what we 403 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: are doing, I don't know and so um that's that's 404 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: where the big differences in game planning is is your 405 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: play action movements and keeps you gotta you gotta. Yeah, 406 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: I'd be great that everybody can go right and left equally. 407 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: That's not the case, though. These are what I think 408 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: was interesting. Uh. In this conversation with Mooch, he talked 409 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: about building out the game plan four left in the 410 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: quarterback and I think it's one of the things that 411 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: you don't really think about as a a call. And 412 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: you're so right handed dominant, just because most of your 413 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: life you always called the game for right handers. Now 414 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: you gotta flip it when you have Steve Young and 415 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: your pet plays. Now I have to go to the 416 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: left instead of to the right and doing those things. 417 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: And I thought what was funny is in the West 418 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: Coast offense. The sprint right option is the short yardage 419 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: play of choice. It always goes to the right. Is 420 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: to spread out to the right. It's an easy throw 421 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: for a right handed quarterback, and so Brett Farve to 422 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: break the norm and go to the other side, the 423 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: left side, which isn't the easy side for a right 424 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: handed rolling left and throwing I guess against his body. 425 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: But far can do that, and maybe that's why you 426 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: call it, you know, yeah, yeah, I don't think I 427 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: put much pass Brett five being able to pull off 428 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: go on the other way. UM. Great, great conversation, joy listening. 429 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: You can chat it up there with mooch. I do 430 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: want to get to our next one here. This is 431 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: our last guest on the topic, and that's Michael Vick. 432 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: Michael Vick, by the way, sneaky. How long Michael Vick 433 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: played thirteen years he got in the National Football League. 434 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: I was with him with the Philip Alfie Eagles for 435 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: a couple of years. He spent five years there, six 436 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: with the Falcons obviously, uh, some huge years there. Had 437 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: finished up with the Jets and the Steelers. A four 438 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: time Pro bowler. Um averaged seven yards per carry, which 439 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: is an NFL record for quarterbacks over six thousand rushing yards. 440 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: But we want to talk to him about the passing 441 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: aspect of it being a left handed quarterback. Here's what 442 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: Michael Vick had to say. Mike, you're you're a member 443 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: of a very exclusive club. And I'm not talking about 444 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: you know, a Pro Bowl quarterback or somebody that was, 445 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: you know, running up for hides and trophy. I'm talking 446 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: about left handed quarterbacks. There are not many of you 447 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: guys out there. We got a new one now in 448 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: the club with two a Tungo byla Uh coming into 449 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: the NFL. What what was the biggest challenge or maybe 450 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: the biggest difference for you as a as a lefty man. 451 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: Just my coach is always thinking that they had to 452 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: run everything to the left side of the field. My coach, 453 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'm ambidextroous. I can do it all, like 454 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: go go right because the deepest thing I'm coming left. 455 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: And you know I had to fight with several coaches 456 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: and you know they do a a comfortable level, but 457 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: it's up to you to let them know that, Um 458 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: I can do it from the left side of the 459 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: right side. I know I was more accurate throwing passes 460 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: to my right side across my body than I was 461 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: to the left side. So you know, if I had 462 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: like a deep overall going to my right, you know, 463 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: come across my body just cookes more. You know, if 464 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: I had to you know, my legs and my base 465 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: to make that throat some left sometimes it was difficult 466 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: for me. I kind of get it done because that's 467 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: just running wild. And so I had to make it happen. 468 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: And we talked about coaches gotta understand like that man 469 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: getting left on me, everything has to go leep. I 470 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: love the fact that was in the league of his size. 471 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: You know, I let him. He reminds me to Steve Younger, 472 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: and you know when I look at you know, when 473 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: we've been able to accomplish you know, just the weak 474 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: set up in the pocket is space. You know. It's 475 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: just a quick ending out motion and and out motion. 476 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: If you watch it over and over again, you know 477 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: it's not a long winding from motion. You know. I 478 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: felt like I was accurate as a left handed quarterback, 479 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: but I wasn't Steve young actor. You know, I wasn't 480 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: even Mark Bernian Ackery. You know, you kind of look 481 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: like Mark nell as well so those who name a few, 482 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: but this guy Upset is gonna be um tremendous sent 483 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: for the Miami Dolphins. You know, finally have somebody they 484 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: say we can invest in for the next no five years, 485 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, because I've given five years. You know, I'm 486 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: not talking two years with two for three years. Let 487 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: a coach have somebody work with him. May take three years. 488 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: Get up on these guys a tremendous town, you know, Mike, 489 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: It's funny that you mentioned that about the left being 490 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: a lefty and being more comfortable throwing to your right 491 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: as opposed to your left, because typically we find with 492 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: right handers they're more comfortable rolling to their right and 493 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: doing those things. When you think about, um, the guys 494 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: that you talked about, Steve Young and Mark Renell and 495 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: the ability to throw with accuracy and touch or whatever, like, 496 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: what is it that you can do as a lefty, um, 497 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: to be more accurate and more precise, because it does 498 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: appear to be a little bit of a challenge sometimes 499 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: catching passes from a left handers a challenge into the receiver. Um, 500 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: I think more so than anything, and I you know, 501 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: I kind of witnessed it when I had a chance 502 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: to work with the great Antonio Brown. Um. You know, 503 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: I had a plenty of reps with guys in and 504 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: Inter the Jets and de Sean obviously and Jeremy Macklin, 505 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: the guys that I was with in Atlanta, So we 506 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: had a lot of reps. But Antonio and I didn't 507 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: get a lot of reps. And there was you know 508 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: one pass that I know, Antonio to the court that 509 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: um it failed through the cracks you know of his 510 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,239 Speaker 1: of his uh you know his pocket, you know when 511 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: he was trying to get the ball, and I know 512 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: its Tonio a tougher catches than that. But you know, 513 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: just having the opportunity to work with those guys and 514 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: let him see the span from different angles, different throws, 515 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: high throws, brow throws in the media, throws ones that 516 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: they got to go across their shoulders to catch. It 517 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: means a lot, especially when you're practicing that way and guys, 518 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: of course it's the football. You know, you can't simply that. 519 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: So when those guys have that type you know, opportunity 520 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: to people to people left the quarterback. They obviously over 521 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: time it didn't become snatch. It's just you know, real 522 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: full game type of deal. You're gonna see you guys struggle, 523 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: so that in practice needed to quarterback see well, I 524 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: think Buck you can definitely tell he believes in ta 525 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: um And I thought it was interesting with the self 526 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: evaluation with with Vic talking about the fact that his 527 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: accuracy wasn't necessarily his greatest strength. But I think that 528 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: is something that Tour brings to the table. Yeah, I 529 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: do believe that is something Tour brings to the table. 530 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: And for Michael Vick, I think the bigger thing was 531 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: at the time, the league was so different because we 532 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: were so fascinated about his running skills that we probably 533 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: didn't focus enough on his passing ability. And then now 534 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: I would love to see Michael Vick have an opportunity 535 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: with these coordinators who are really developing these systems that 536 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: are quarterback friendly. Just imagine how good he could have 537 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: been in a system that allowed him to really foot 538 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: utilize all of the talents that he brings to the table. 539 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: His point about toa in terms of making taking time, 540 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: I do believe it take time because he doesn't have 541 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: his mini reps with some of the other guys, Like 542 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: we look at the the amount of reps he had 543 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: in comparison to some of the other young quarterbacks playing 544 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: justin Herbert started for three four years. You talk about 545 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: the amount of rest that Joe Burrow in terms of 546 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: the number of throws that Joe Burrow was able to make, 547 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: um exceeding what you have had. And so I do 548 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: believe there would be a bit of a learning curve. 549 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: But man, his talent is extraordinary, all right, So let's 550 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: wrap it up here. Uh, in terms of what we 551 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: learned talking to these guests, you know how big of 552 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: a deal is that you think being a lefty. Um, Obviously, 553 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: the spin is different, and I think for pass catchers 554 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: you just have to get used to the ball spinning 555 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: a different way. It's just different to the eye. It 556 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: is different in terms of the drift pattern of the ball. 557 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: I think for play calls is different because you have 558 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: to flip your play sheet. Uh, your pet plays that 559 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: normally go to the right, they now have to go 560 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: to the left. But overall, I think it's a quarterback 561 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: is good. I feel like you kind of make it work. 562 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: And I think that's the common denominator that all these 563 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: guys talked about. A good quarterbacks find a way to 564 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: make it work. Yeah, and we go back to our 565 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: college evaluation of two. We both are big believers in 566 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: him and what he's gonna be able to accomplish. I 567 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: think they have some good pieces in place around him 568 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: on the perimeter, and you've got some some young offensive 569 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: lineman starting, a couple of rookies up front. They're all 570 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: gonna get better as the season goes along. And this 571 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,479 Speaker 1: is an exciting Miami Dolphins team. Now he's gonna get 572 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: a chance to see this group grow together and they're 573 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: gonna go as far as two is gonna take him. 574 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: So to get him on the field right now, I 575 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: think makes a lot of sense. Be patient. You might 576 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: have a little rough go here at the beginning, but 577 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see two and get comfortable. Dialed 578 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: in and uh and three letters for Dolphins fans are 579 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: p oh, getting ready because here they kind of get 580 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: ready because they're coming in drows and he is one 581 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: of the best added tune. He and Joe Burrow, those 582 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: two guys, I call him Jedi masters when it comes 583 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: to the RBO game. They both have the ability to 584 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: get it out too. Will really show people how to 585 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: really execute the r P O because I think he 586 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: was root in an r PO system coming all the 587 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: way up. He is so comfortable doing it that, Yeah, 588 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: it should be a lot of fun watching the Miami. Well, 589 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: this is one of the fun things we get to 590 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: do here on Move the Six get to have of 591 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: timely conversations, will get great guests and um and really 592 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: delve into a topic here. And I think it's fun. 593 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: It's something we don't see very often with the left 594 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: handed quarterback. And hopefully you've been able to learn a 595 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: little something as we have and talking to these guests today, 596 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us today. 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