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Speaker 1: This one felt exceptional, two years ago felt weak.

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Speaker 1: I and I started naming quarterbacks to my friend and

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Speaker 1: I said, and I want you to consider everything work, ethic, focus, health, mobility,

431
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Speaker 1: everything is Aaron Rodgers. Because I'm gonna give you a

432
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Speaker 1: take care. Is Aaron Rodgers as good as mahomes Alan

433
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Speaker 1: and Lamar He's not. No, I don't think he'll be

434
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Speaker 1: as good this year as Burrow or Herbert with Harbaugh.

435
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Speaker 1: I don't think he moves as well or as his

436
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Speaker 1: healthy as C. J. Stroud Stafford. And I'll make this

437
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Speaker 1: argument all day. If Aaron has a clunker this year

438
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Speaker 1: and Stafford gets to a super Bowl, You're going to

439
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Speaker 1: start looking at those two careers differently. Stafford was a

440
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Speaker 1: hell of a lot better in high school, college, and

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Speaker 1: the first four years in the pros, and he's going

442
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Speaker 1: to be better late. If he crushes the next two years,

443
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Speaker 1: you start going down quarterback and.

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Speaker 2: Say who's better.

445
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Speaker 1: Aaron doesn't, isn't quite as committed. He has a below

446
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Speaker 1: average offensive coordinator in Matt Hackett. That's been established the

447
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: offensive lines in flux fingers crossed, but it's not elite.

448
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: He has a defensive coach Aaron has become over the

449
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Speaker 1: course of the last half dozen years. He'll lead the

450
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Speaker 1: NFL in like throwaways, Like if he does like the

451
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Speaker 1: play call, Aaron's not taking the arrows, He'll throw it

452
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Speaker 1: out of bounce. He did that, as you know with

453
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Speaker 1: McCarthy the last two years. You know with lafleur he

454
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Speaker 1: may live out of the play. He wasn't disgusted with it.

455
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Speaker 1: He was with the McCarthy. He will be with Matt Hackett.

456
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Speaker 1: And so I was just saying to somebody, I said,

457
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Speaker 1: in the NFC, I viewed him differently. I said, I

458
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Speaker 1: look in the AFC right now, I don't think he's

459
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Speaker 1: a top I don't think he's a top six quarterback

460
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Speaker 1: in the AFC.

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Speaker 2: And my take.

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Speaker 1: Is, is it possible that the weakness of the Jets.

463
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Speaker 1: If Garrett Wilson and Breese Hall stay upright, they're both

464
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Speaker 1: the elite. They're both really special. We may look in

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Speaker 1: week twelve and think Aaron's not as good as Jordan

466
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Speaker 1: Love or now Trevor Lawrence or josh or Lamar or

467
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Speaker 1: Burrow or and we say he's like the eleventh best

468
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Speaker 1: quarterback in the league, and the defense is great. Wilson

469
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Speaker 1: and Breesehall are crushing. Smith gives you twelve starts, the

470
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: rookie from Penn States better than we think, and we

471
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Speaker 1: look up hot take and go, shit, Aaron's closer to

472
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Speaker 1: Dak than Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's forty years old. One thing I've noticed on

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Speaker 3: the NFL network, and it's hard because he doesn't play

475
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Speaker 3: any of these preseason games. I think he's moving slow,

476
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 3: you know, so why every clip I see it's like

477
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Speaker 3: he looks like the forty five year old guy if

478
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Speaker 3: you just went to the gym you see kind of

479
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Speaker 3: jogging around shooting hoops. That's what he looks like. And

480
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 3: that's a little concerning because that's never how he's played. Now.

481
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Speaker 3: If he just morphs his game into playing like Peyton

482
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Speaker 3: he had or Brady he has the arm to function

483
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Speaker 3: like that. Then it gets to the question mark, well,

484
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Speaker 3: he's never had to play like that. If his offensive

485
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Speaker 3: line they get a couple injuries, all of a sudden,

486
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Speaker 3: he's kind of moving for his life. But he can't

487
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Speaker 3: run around. What's the problem with Russell Wilson that not

488
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Speaker 3: quite as fast? Still thinks he can scramble? Well can't.

489
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Speaker 3: It's much easier for Caleb. Why he's way younger and

490
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 3: he's still fast. So you watch these guys kind of

491
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Speaker 3: scramble around. Some guys can't, some guys can. I just

492
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 3: think he's such a polarizing individual. It's gonna get weird fast.

493
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Speaker 3: You got Monday night against the Niners. What if you

494
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Speaker 3: go in there, you get your teeth kicked in all

495
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 3: of a sudden, it's like, oh, here we go again.

496
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Speaker 3: I don't like I mean, listen, Robert Saala is a

497
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 3: nice guy. He's been completely over his head. Yeah, you know,

498
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 3: of just being able to handle a star told me something.

499
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 3: Aaron's like, what the hell is what's he talking about?

500
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Speaker 3: That's just that's stuff that like Mike McCarthy doesn't you

501
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 3: you know, just knows how to handle Yeah. I mean,

502
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Speaker 3: I just think that if his mobility is gone and

503
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Speaker 3: not gone where he can't move at all, like Tom

504
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Speaker 3: Brady at forty five. But he used to be you know,

505
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Speaker 3: seven and a half eight out of ten and now

506
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Speaker 3: it's more like five ish, and he's less hesitant to

507
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Speaker 3: do it once he realizes I'm not as quick. That

508
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 3: changes the player dramatically. Yes, And you're looking at, like

509
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Speaker 3: you said, the influx of new young quarterbacks. You know,

510
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Speaker 3: let's use brock Purty as an example. One thing he

511
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Speaker 3: can do is scramble around. He moves well, and that

512
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Speaker 3: is the modern day football. You have to be able

513
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Speaker 3: to move. Because we talked about the the talent coming

514
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Speaker 3: in the league. Well, there hasn't been a lot of

515
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Speaker 3: Trent Williams come in the league and Larry Allen's over

516
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 3: the last five ten years, but there has been a

517
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Speaker 3: lot of defensive lines. So you're at a disadvantage most

518
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Speaker 3: games where they got more good defensive linemen than you

519
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 3: do offensive lineman. That's why these quarterbacks being able to

520
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 3: scramble around can save you. Well, if that's gone for him,

521
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Speaker 3: with the lack of offensive ingenuity that's in that building.

522
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Speaker 3: From a coaching standpoint, what is it argue they could

523
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Speaker 3: be screwed relative to the expectation that he's back and

524
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Speaker 3: going to save the day.

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Speaker 1: Also, I remember as a kid, I got into a

526
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Speaker 1: motorcycle accident, ripped up. I still have a scar from it. Huh,

527
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: Honda one fifty or something. You know, it was pretty ugly,

528
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: and I can remember it took me two years before

529
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Speaker 1: somebody finally said, dude, you got to get on that.

530
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: A neighborhood dad said, you gotta get on that bike. Kid,

531
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Speaker 1: You just got to get You gotta crash again. And

532
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: that always sticks in my head that if if you

533
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Speaker 1: get hurt doing something, just you got to get back

534
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Speaker 1: in there. Brady acknowledges the first year back from his injury,

535
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Speaker 1: he didn't want to get he didn't want anybody near

536
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 1: his knees. He got prickly. He would bark at officials.

537
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: Are we not acknowledging Aaron is going to be affected

538
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: by that? Like Aaron probably deep down feels like he

539
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: disappointed the city taking four snaps though it wasn't his fault.

540
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: So you've got an aging player, a player that is

541
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Speaker 1: going to be hyper sensitive to that, an offensive coordinator

542
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: you can't trust. I just I think we look at

543
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: the Jets and think Aaron will save us. In my

544
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Speaker 1: take is no, Actually I trust their defense. I think

545
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson is really good. Breese Hall, I think the

546
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: on line will kind of figure it out. I'm just saying,

547
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: I think we're going to look up at Thanksgiving and

548
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: like Aaron sometimes is a weakness.

549
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: I haven't had a chance to read the book or

550
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: blisten to the audiobook yet. Obviously there's a lot coming

551
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: out about that family moment at the Tahoe golf tournament

552
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: where he saw his dad, And obviously there's two sides

553
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: to every story. You know, who knows maybe if the

554
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 3: parents are whack jobs and it's not as much on Aaron,

555
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: which it kind of feels like that might be, is

556
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: not as crazy as on Aaron side. But regardless, isn't

557
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 3: it a pretty consistent theme over the last however many years,

558
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 3: the quarterback and the family relationship. You look at Peyton

559
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: and Tom, obviously their families are very very close. Caleb's

560
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 3: tight with his you know, Russell and his family. You

561
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 3: just go around the league, Patrick Mahomes and his family,

562
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 3: Lamar's moms, his agent. Yeah, I mean, it's that's strained,

563
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 3: like I saw some craziness when I was a kid

564
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 3: with some you know, extended family. That's hard on any

565
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 3: human I don't care who it is. It wears on you.

566
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Speaker 3: Even if you're right or they're right, it doesn't even

567
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 3: matter after a while. It's just that lack of you

568
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: only have so many people in your life that when

569
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Speaker 3: you grow up and that relationship with your brothers and

570
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: sisters and your parents, you remove that. I can't even imagine.

571
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 3: I can't relate to that because I the relationship i'd

572
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 3: had with my dad's past now, but my dad, my mom,

573
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 3: my brother, that seems like hard to overcome in certain

574
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 3: moments of just to gain some levity in life, just

575
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 3: a game like hey, I need to talk to somebody,

576
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: not even about something serious. That's that's an underrated part.

577
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people sarcastically mock and

578
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 3: stuff I'm talking about as a human being, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I wonder if that situation, I mean, he sees

580
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Speaker 3: his dad at that tournament and goes up to him.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what a fucking awkward thing they got

582
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Speaker 3: going on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so.

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Speaker 1: I want the Errand thing was a mild take because

585
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Speaker 1: I do think most people realize these young quarterbacks are sensational,

586
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: They move better than Aaron, better health, many have offensive coaches.

587
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: If I had a take, and I know you know

588
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Speaker 1: I've used this example before, John, and you, as a

589
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 1: scout probably know this better than anybody I've talked about before.

590
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: Seahawk Camp was in Cheenie, Washington, where I went to college,

591
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: and I've talked about before. Seeing Eugene Robinson from Colgate

592
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: his first practice with the Seahawks and literally knowing, I mean,

593
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: I had people around me and I could name them.

594
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: I went to college with him, saying, holy shit, he

595
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: is lighting up Steve Largent, who is that colegate who?

596
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: At that time, I don't even know if I'd ever

597
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: seen an IVY League game on TV. You know this

598
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: is back in like nineteen eighty two. It doesn't take

599
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: long to see certain things. Right. Here's here's a take.

600
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Speaker 1: Bon Nicks has got a better arm than I think

601
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: people think. I think he's more cut and athletic than

602
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: people think. I noticed this when I saw him live

603
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: on the field against Utah. That game everything went Oregon's way.

604
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Speaker 1: And I know it's preseason, John, but I've watched bon

605
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: Nicks and I'm like, oh shit, Caleb defensive coach, Drake Made,

606
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: defensive coach Jaden, defensive coach JJ McCarthy, Hurt Pennix may

607
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: not play hot take bow Knicks is the best quarterback

608
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: this year out of the crop.

609
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 3: I think Caleb will be better because of what he's

610
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: dealing with. But I think bo Nicks is going to

611
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 3: shut a lot of people up really fast. I mean,

612
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: it's already inevitable. He's started for week one, He's got

613
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Speaker 3: a coach. I would say, who a well established, very

614
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: rich guy who's already won a Super Bowl, who kind

615
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: of has this like back against the wall chip on

616
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 3: his shoulder right now? Yeah, because that year last year

617
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: was probably not fun and is anything good? I would

618
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: say nothing has a chance to age better faster than

619
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Speaker 3: boot and Russell out for eighty million dollars in selecting

620
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: this guy. And let's face it, leading up to the draft,

621
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Speaker 3: before he inevitably picked him, everyone was going, Oh, Sean

622
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 3: Payton wants the bow Knicks. That's tarot, that's awful. You

623
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: can't drap this guy that high. This is crazy, this

624
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: is stupid, and it's like, now, I mean, this guy

625
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 3: has a pretty good idea. He was one of the

626
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: rare guys that was all in on mahomes. He like

627
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: Drew Brees once upon a time when not everyone was

628
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: lining at the door, you know. So I would say

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Speaker 3: that you have an offensive coach is just a huge

630
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Speaker 3: advantage and a guy that can develop quarterbacks and a

631
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Speaker 3: guy who can call the place. To me, my biggest

632
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: thing is not offensive and defensive coaches. It's do you

633
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: call the place? Do you dictate fifty percent of the game.

634
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: And obviously, as an offensive coach, not only are you

635
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 3: calling the place, you're controlling the quarterback then essentially and

636
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: the pace of the game. You know, defense is much

637
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: more physicality, there's stuff out of your control. Even great

638
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: defense gets speed sometime. But as an offensive play caller,

639
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: you can completely control the game. And beside that couple

640
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: of year stretch which was bad when they I think

641
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 3: Rob Ryan was their defensive coordinator in New Orleans and

642
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Speaker 3: they were going seven to nine even though their offense

643
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Speaker 3: was setting records. When they've had good defenses, they dominated.

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Speaker 3: You know, they were consistent ten to twelve win team

645
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Speaker 3: in the NFL. That's what Sean Payton's record. It is

646
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Speaker 3: when the defense is solid. So their defense a solid,

647
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Speaker 3: which it was the second half of last year. And

648
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Speaker 3: clearly I think removing Russell Wilson and this is why

649
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Speaker 3: I'm out on the Steelers. That thing that you take

650
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Speaker 3: in is more than just that miss third down throw.

651
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Speaker 3: It's all this other stuff, which, in fairness, I don't

652
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Speaker 3: know how much Russell brings it. It's just there now,

653
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 3: it's just part of the deal. And you remove that,

654
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: you get this young hungry guy, you get this chip

655
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Speaker 3: on the shoulder coach the Raiders naming Gardner Minshew that

656
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: they're not going to be any good. The Chargers just

657
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,959
Speaker 3: gonna have some injury problems and their depth is going

658
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: to be very questionable. Is it crazy to think Denver

659
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 3: could finish second in this division? No, he clearly likes

660
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Speaker 3: this team. They like their rookie class. They got some

661
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Speaker 3: good wide receivers. Watching them play, I mean, I don't

662
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Speaker 3: think it's inconceivable they go nine to eight.

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Speaker 1: Boon Nicks played with Troy Franklin. Troy average one hundred

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Speaker 1: and five yards per game, fourteen touchdowns. Shit, they played

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Speaker 1: together in college. Like, think about this, He's twenty four,

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Speaker 1: Drake May's twenty one offensive coach I think between Mims, Cortland,

667
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Speaker 1: Sutton and Troy Franklin, they have a good tight end,

668
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Speaker 1: two capable backs. I'm like, that's that's at least averaged

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Speaker 1: the slightly above average. I mean, look at Dallas Cowboys.

670
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Speaker 1: They're completely dependent on Ceedee lambstaying healthy or they're screwed.

671
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Speaker 1: So to me, I look at Denver and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: every single year it was Houston. Last year, there's a

673
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Speaker 1: pop team and I'm watching bow Nicks and I've had

674
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Speaker 1: a couple of texts with Sean Payton. It's not lost

675
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Speaker 1: on me that a former NFL quarterback that I was

676
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Speaker 1: talking to in the building at Fox several months ago

677
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Speaker 1: said just remember Drake, Caleb and Jaden have defensive coaches.

678
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Speaker 1: He goes, I don't care how talented they are. And

679
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Speaker 1: this guy came into the league years ago and had

680
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Speaker 1: a defensive coach. He said, it matters like you're nervous,

681
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Speaker 1: you don't you you know he said a defensive coach.

682
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Speaker 1: I mean, Mark Sanchez told me years and years ago,

683
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Speaker 1: it's like, you know, the reality is an offense of coach.

684
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Speaker 1: You talk at night, you text, you know, your texting.

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Speaker 1: Defensive coaches think differently. Their buddies are defensive coaches. Their

686
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Speaker 1: favorite players are Belichick's favorite player is Lawrence Taylor. It's

687
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Speaker 1: not Tom Brady. So I think I just think Denver

688
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Speaker 1: is better. PFF has their personnel near the bottom of

689
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Speaker 1: the league, and I'm like, ah, I don't.

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Speaker 3: Know wide Peyton Manning love Adam Gase because he could

691
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Speaker 3: text him at one o'clock in the morning and he

692
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Speaker 3: texts him right back, maybe talking football. These offensive guys

693
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Speaker 3: I saw with Andy Reid sleeps like three hours a night.

694
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Speaker 3: He's just in the whiteboard. Just these guys. It's like

695
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Speaker 3: a creative The mentality is it's night and day. Different.

696
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 3: Now some of the defensive guys are just such natural leaders.

697
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Speaker 3: The aggressiveness kind of it's a different personality. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the offensive play caller is the

699
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Speaker 3: number one guy you'd ever want running, especially in this

700
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Speaker 3: modern day football. But who are the options for pop teams? Right?

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Speaker 3: It have to be a team an on an AFC

702
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Speaker 3: West team, right, not the Chiefs, So it'd be the Raiders,

703
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Speaker 3: the Chargers of the Broncos. I think most people are

704
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Speaker 3: out on the Raiders when you watch their quarterback situation.

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Speaker 3: Listen I'm a Jim Harbad die hard, but they just

706
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Speaker 3: got a ton of injuries. They got a guys that

707
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Speaker 3: have always injured. That makes me nervous. Their quarterback just

708
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Speaker 3: got out of a boot. The Jets, who we talked about,

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Speaker 3: I would say, are pretty uh, are walking a very

710
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Speaker 3: very tight line. They could shatter in front of our

711
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Speaker 3: eyes immediately. The Steelers I got coming back to Earth.

712
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Speaker 3: They were already a playoff team. The same with the

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Speaker 1: So as we go into the season, you know, I

739
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Speaker 1: thought about this if the Chiefs three p. Belichick didn't

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Speaker 1: do it. And we talk a lot about the Chiefs.

741
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Speaker 1: We talk about Mahomes and Brady, right, Brady's going to

742
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Speaker 1: be more productive, but Mahomes is more talented and increasing

743
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Speaker 1: in production. But I want to talk about Andy Reid

744
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Speaker 1: and Belichick. Andy Reid wins a third straight Super Bowl.

745
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Speaker 1: Belichick never did it. Andy Reid two teams to a

746
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Belichick didn't do it. Andy Reid had to

747
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Speaker 1: face for the first fifteen to twenty years of his

748
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Speaker 1: coaching career, a league that allowed Belichick's favorite rules to exist,

749
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Speaker 1: Yet Andy still flourished five NFC championship. The minute the

750
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Speaker 1: league pivoted to offense and Brady left, Belichick is it's Jurassic.

751
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Speaker 1: He is completely tone deaf. And my take is we've

752
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 1: always felt there's Belichick and Shula. Andy wins at third straight.

753
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Speaker 1: Andy's Super Bowl Philadelphia, Kansas City. Andy's won with terrible quarterbacks.

754
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Speaker 1: Andy's one with everybody. Andy's assistants are better. Andy's the

755
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Speaker 1: one coach that gave Belichick real problems. Go look at

756
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Speaker 1: their record. I think that Andy Reid Belichick gap gets

757
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: really thin, really thin. And if we're going to be fair,

758
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: the league pivoted offense seven years ago, about seven eight,

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Speaker 1: You're like, I mean everything now, it's go look at

760
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Speaker 1: Belichick's last seven drafts, last four seasons. I again, I'm

761
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Speaker 1: not confusing it. I think Belichick is a better coach

762
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Speaker 1: than Shula, and Shula has more wins. It's not all

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Speaker 1: just on record. Andy Reid is good with everybody at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I think the gap closes. I think it gets really

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Speaker 1: close if he knocks down three straight super Bowl why.

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Speaker 3: I'd say it's been closing dramatically fast over the last

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Speaker 3: two years, as he's knocked these last two off. Right,

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Speaker 3: I'm torn on this because I'm an Andy Reid guy,

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Speaker 3: but I am a Belichick defender of Like, we know

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Speaker 3: what we watched. We watched him out coach everyone for

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Speaker 3: eighteen years and then clues Andy beat him in a

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl. Now he had Brady, he had McNab. That's

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Speaker 3: the gap there's pretty wide. And he did beat him

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Speaker 3: Mahomes first year on the road in that AFC championship

775
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Speaker 3: game that went overtime. That was one of the better

776
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Speaker 3: games the Patriots ever played in. But you could argue

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Speaker 3: if to me, if Andy wins won more, the ability

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Speaker 3: to coach every type quarterback, absolutely, and like you said,

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Speaker 3: and win pretty big. I mean, he was consistently going

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Speaker 3: to the playoffs with Alex Smith, no problem, right, winning

781
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Speaker 3: with Donovan McNabb, who had some serious flaws. Belichick could

782
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Speaker 3: not only coach or have success with one guy. That

783
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 3: guy was wired like a defensive guy. You could just

784
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: dog cuss them, you could scream at him. That's not

785
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 3: really the way most quarterbacks handle. And you put anyone

786
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Speaker 3: else in that place it gets a little weird really fast,

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Speaker 3: where I think Andy's personality is much more tailored to quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: which have always been the name of the game. Right,

789
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Speaker 3: So Bill just got pretty lucky. He just got this

790
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Speaker 3: rare bird that was wired more like Mike Vrabel or

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Speaker 3: Teddy Bruski could just take it. Most quarterbacks were not

792
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 3: taking that type of abuse. So why every article that

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00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: was ever written about any backup quarterback that sat next

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Speaker 3: to Tom said, this is the craziest thing I've ever seen.

795
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Speaker 3: The way that he takes this. It's like it terrified

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Speaker 3: everyone else because if mahomes ainc again, it doesn't mean

797
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 3: you can't coach a guy hard or push a guy.

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Speaker 3: But they treated everyone as equals when they're not equals.

799
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Speaker 3: Joe Montana, John Elway, Peyton Manning, they weren't equals in

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Speaker 3: the room and the room knows it. But Belichick's thing,

801
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 3: to me could have only worked with Tom. It's why

802
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 3: they were the perfect marriage, one of the great sports

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Speaker 3: marriages of all time. Yeah, Andy can date anybody. If

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Speaker 3: you gave Andy any of the top let's just say,

805
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Speaker 3: fifteen quarterbacks in the NFL. I'm not saying the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: win the super Bowl. You gave him like Josh Allen,

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Speaker 3: they'd win the Super Bowl. Joe Burrow Lamar would be fun.

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Speaker 3: I think he could just take like Dak, you random

809
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Speaker 3: guys and they would have eleven to twelve wins. Now,

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Speaker 3: they may lose in a playoff game because that guy's

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Speaker 3: not good enough, but he would be a lock for

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Speaker 3: the playoffs. And I don't think you could say that

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Speaker 3: about Bill as the years went on rotating just take

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Speaker 3: give me, give him Dak Prescott, He's a lock to win.

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Speaker 3: I don't feel that way. So that's Andy's trump card

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Speaker 3: in this modern day football. It ain't even close right,

817
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Speaker 3: his ability to do offense and quarterback Bill couldn't. That's

818
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Speaker 3: why I think a lot of people were off Bill. Now,

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Speaker 3: it'll be very fascinating to watch how this offseason or

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Speaker 3: this season goes with Bill playing this new role. I

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Speaker 3: would say Bill is very dependent on one individual over

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Speaker 3: the last fifteen years, and that was Josh McDaniels. When

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Speaker 3: he had Josh and Josh available, you're getting a package deal.

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Speaker 3: And once you hire Bill and Josh, well, no one's

825
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 3: ever hiring Josh to be a head coach ever. Again,

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Speaker 3: right in the NFL maybe in college, but so maybe

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Speaker 3: Bill has that going for him. But yeah, I mean this,

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Speaker 3: I don't even think it's remotely close. And I think

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Speaker 3: Mahome is a good example of like, the guy that

830
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Speaker 3: we see now is so much different than the guy

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Speaker 3: we saw early on the way they've coached him, the

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Speaker 3: way he's changed. And just if you can't coach the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: I mean he put now Andy put Wan Castillo's defensive

834
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Speaker 3: coordinator when I was there. Everyone makes mistakes, yeah, but

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Speaker 3: to put Matt Patricia as your offensive coordinator really the

836
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Speaker 3: second year coach is one of the most insane things

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Speaker 3: ever and first great as Belichick's resume is, that's like

838
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Speaker 3: an all time stain. Yea. To me, that's a bigger

839
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Speaker 3: stay than like the Flate gate or any of that

840
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Speaker 3: other crap.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are these there are these moments. I mean,

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Speaker 1: every great actor Brando had six bombs.

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Speaker 3: Danira, they all do right, But there.

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Speaker 1: Are moves over the last three to four years with

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Speaker 1: Belichick that I can't unsee, and the Matt Patricia thing

847
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Speaker 1: and the five six straight. I mean, there are drafts

848
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: where they don't have a single good player. It stains

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Speaker 1: how I look at Bill and how the beginning, and

850
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: any great movie starts great and finishes strong. Bill's ending

851
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Speaker 1: is a catastrophe.

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Speaker 3: Think about this too. I do think it's a little

853
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 3: weird that this Bill was like this ultimate dictator. You

854
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 3: don't get it wrong, Like you're in the building with Andy,

855
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 3: like he's the boss, but he interacts clearly a little

856
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 3: different because look at his resume of like Doug Peterson

857
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: was the right hand guy won a Super Bowl. Matt

858
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: Naggie they claim was a disaster, took the Bears in

859
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 3: the playoffs. Ron Rivera took the Paranthers to the Super Bowl.

860
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: Andy guy John Harbaugh turned out to be pretty good.

861
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 3: Like why do Andy's guys just function pretty well? And

862
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: Bill's guys football coaching is a hard and every guy's

863
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 3: gonna lose, have a bad season, maybe get You're gonna

864
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 3: get fired eventually, his guys get run out of the

865
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 3: building in record speed. Yeah, I mean Joe Judge immediately

866
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 3: like the same organ. Josh McDaniels couldn't even make it

867
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: through the second year after like ten years to a

868
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: step back, Patricia, whatever the hell happened in Detroit? I mean,

869
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: at all times, couldn't get along with Stafford, Oh my god. Yeah.

870
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: So and these are his core guys. Like when you

871
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: think Bill of the last fifteen years, Pat Brian Flores

872
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: couldn't get along with a soul on offense, hate his

873
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 3: interactions with the quarterback because that's what they saw. Think

874
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 3: about that, that's what those guys saw. So defensive guys

875
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 3: scream at the quarterback. You're like, this ain't gonna work.

876
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 3: That ain't Tom Brady.

877
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: Success or failure.

878
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: All of Andy Reid's guys are guys you'd love to

879
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: have a beer with. They're good dudes, well liked. Go

880
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: to Bill's Charlie Wise, Joe Judge, he just ran on

881
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: He just ran on Twitter about getting fired from Serious saying,

882
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: I was like, Charlie, what's going on here? Almost all

883
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: of Bill's guys, Eric Mangini's an exception, Almost all of

884
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: them there are a lot of work. Like if they

885
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: were in the building, you'd avoid them. They're harsh, they're intense,

886
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: they're arrogant. Bill is attracted to that quality, that sort

887
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: of pseudo confidence, arrogance. Andy's guys, Matt n Aggie used

888
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: to call me, Hey, thanks for saying nice stuff. You know,

889
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,959
Speaker 1: my kids listened this morning going to work, like Doug

890
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: Peterson's a great guy. They're all nice guys, and Andy

891
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: is looking for people that Andy barks, So I think

892
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: he looks for people psychologically that can comfort players when

893
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: he barks. Bill barks and doubles down on the barking.

894
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: And that's why that's why the minute Brady leaves, free

895
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: agents don't want to go there. Brandon Ayuk's like not

896
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: remotely interested in that culture Bill created.

897
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, it was his culture was all dependent

898
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 3: on Tom. Once Tom established himself and go back to Walsh,

899
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 3: like they could have pivoted way earlier to young and

900
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 3: been fine, Like it wasn't dependent on one individual. I

901
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 3: just think that's an all time outlier situation what we

902
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 3: saw because the way the quarterback could take it, none

903
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: of these other quarterbacks take it. It's why every single guy,

904
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 3: to a man, the backup quarterbacks that all rotate around

905
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: the league were like, this is the craziest thing I've

906
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 3: ever seen. And it's not like obviously there were a

907
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 3: small percentage of teams that just are really buttoned up,

908
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 3: do it the right way. The Ravens, the Chiefs, the Patriots,

909
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 3: like the gap of how they get ready isn't it.

910
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 3: But the way that they treated the quarterback in front

911
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 3: of the entire team didn't happen anywhere else because that's

912
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 3: not normal and you're never gonna see that away. And

913
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 3: I understand why the Patriot guys defend it, Like if

914
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 3: I was Edelman, I would defend it too, because they

915
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 3: won a lot, but it wasn't sustainable. Once you remove

916
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: the keycog, it you crumbled down. And I'm telling you

917
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 3: it's gonna get really ugly there. It's gonna get really

918
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 3: ugly there. That team rolling out Jacoby. I mean, Drake's

919
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 3: a major project. People are gonna be mad at Craft

920
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 3: because everything he did to Bill, even obviously didn't end

921
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 3: well with Bill on the field, but you respect a

922
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 3: guy that brought you so much. It's I think it's

923
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 3: gonna be really bad. And you talk to like I

924
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 3: text around people in the league, they're like, buckle up, Phillis,

925
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 3: it's gonna be ugly. And it's not like they're playing

926
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 3: in a division. I mean, the Bill's got a lot

927
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 3: of moving parts. Obviously they are the king of the division.

928
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 3: The Dolphins aren't great. The Jets could implode if you

929
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 3: told me they didn't win a divisional game, I'd believe you.

930
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 2: All right.

931
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: So Chris Peterson's gone, Nick Saban's gone, Jim Harbaugh's gone,

932
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: Dabo Sweeney is struggling with a transfer portal, and an

933
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: il Ryan Day is struggling defining what Ohio State is.

934
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: Take Kirby smart out. He's considered the best coach in

935
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: college football. I think Kaylin de Boor's really close. And

936
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: you'll the rest of the country will see that what

937
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: Husky fans know. It's really interesting. And this is why

938
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: you can't give up on people. I could make an

939
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: argument the third best coach in college football is Lane Kiffen,

940
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: and this sport bailed on him. Old miss has no

941
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: business being as good as they are. I mean, let's

942
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: be honest. The state produces, I mean, how many players.

943
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: They can't get many, and Georgia gets the best in Georgia,

944
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: Bama gets the best in Bama.

945
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 2: Florida. It's rated by everybody. He is.

946
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: That state's only got three and a half like million people.

947
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: It's Oregon.

948
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: It's got more players than Oregon. But generally speaking, most

949
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: of these teams in the top ten come from highly

950
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: populated states, fertile recruiting grounds. Is that people bail The

951
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: Raiders bailed on him, you know, college football bailed on him.

952
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: And you start looking around and I'm like, and by

953
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: the way, Sark somewhere in the top ten. He may

954
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: not have the trophy yet, but recruiting, culture, building, quarterback development,

955
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: Sark knows what he's doing. He's won a lot of games.

956
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: Washington was zero to twelve when he took it over.

957
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: He had what they were seven wins second year, and

958
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: he handed Chris Peterson some dudes, some NFL bodies. But

959
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that today. Take Kirby out and

960
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: Kaitlin to Bore.

961
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: We know it.

962
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: You know, Urban's gone, Harbaugh's gone, Savan's gone, Chris Peterson's gone.

963
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: All these guys. Dabbo is struggling with nil on the

964
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: transfer portal. He's struggling with it.

965
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 3: Well, he won't do it. He won't do it.

966
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: He won't do.

967
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: Jesus and Ryan Day hired Chip Kelly, which I think

968
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: is brilliant because the hole in his game, which he acknowledges,

969
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: is the run game. Ryan admits that, so he can't

970
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: put him as a top five coach now because he's

971
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: beating Perdue. It's you know, Lane Kiffin can coach his

972
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: ass off, That's my take.

973
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 3: You know, one of the best stats I remember here

974
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 3: in last year was Ole Miss has never had back

975
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 3: to back double digit seasons win seasons in the history

976
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 3: of the program. Lane did it twenty two and twenty three,

977
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 3: and last year when he beat LSU. You're watching him going.

978
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: The talent gap on these two rosters can't be as

979
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 3: close as what it looks like on the field. Obviously

980
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 3: he scares people, but to me, he's got one of

981
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 3: the blue blood's, whether it's Florida, if they make a

982
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 3: change whoever. You know, there were rumors that I had

983
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 3: heard Oregon when Dan Lanning got it, he was really interested.

984
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 3: People just wouldn't touch him. You get to a point, though,

985
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 3: I think, especially in college sports in the NFL, you

986
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 3: win enough, who cares, like, what are we even talking about?

987
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 3: And a lot of people think they're going to be

988
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 3: a top ten team. He crushed the transfer portal. Oh yeah,

989
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 3: good quarterback.

990
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

991
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: I do think there's a lot of pressure though. It's

992
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 3: one of those where even if he wins eight or

993
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 3: nine games and misses the playoffs, it's still a remarkable accomplishment.

994
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 3: You win ten eleven and then nine you're at ol Miss,

995
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 3: not Ohio State, right, Like, I'm with you on Kalen Newbor.

996
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 3: He's a star. And don't be shocked when they're back

997
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 3: in the final fourth Alabama right away, Right, but you

998
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 3: should win at Alabama even if some guys leave, you're

999
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 3: still inheriting. Every single guy in that roster is someone

1000
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 3: that Nick had recruited. Right, you should win Ohio State.

1001
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 3: You obviously should win at USC, even Sark. It is

1002
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 3: to me much more impressive that they have an unlimited

1003
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 3: checkbook to sign whoever they want, whenever they want.

1004
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: Now.

1005
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 3: Sark had a good year last year, though kind of

1006
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 3: a little softened in the playoff game against Washington. It's

1007
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 3: way easier to win at Texas than it is at

1008
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 3: Old Miss. Like Lane went to what Fai or Fui

1009
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 3: or whatever that school was in Florida that no one

1010
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 3: could even get, right if I pulled random people that

1011
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: follow sports, and then to Old Miss, who usually runs

1012
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 3: through coaches every three or four years, and now he's

1013
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 3: kicking everyone's ass. He's beaten LSU. Yeah, I mean, I

1014
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 3: just think that it's it's easy to hire. I think

1015
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 3: part of what's worked against Lane. It's easy for USC

1016
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 3: to give one hundred million do to Lincoln like everyone's

1017
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 3: on board. It's easy when LSU gives ninety plus to

1018
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 3: Brian Kelly, like we see. I think it is controversial

1019
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 3: in some of these ads and whatever to hire Lane

1020
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 3: at this point in time. You're crazy if you do not.

1021
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 3: They're hiring these billion napiers and all these other guys.

1022
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 3: Lanes werenning circles around them all. So, I mean, what

1023
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 3: he's doing at ole Miss now here's the thing. He's

1024
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,479
Speaker 3: getting paid nine ten million dollars there and they clearly

1025
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 3: had a pretty good But does he need to leave?

1026
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean I think some of its lifestyle.

1027
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: He likes the South. He's told me that he likes

1028
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: the style. He loves fishing. He's an intense guy. He

1029
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: likes it's he gets some space. People are nice, you know.

1030
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: Lane's little cocky, unique personality. But I also think he's

1031
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: got a great heart and I think he's really I

1032
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: think he's really a good coach. I think sometimes when

1033
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: dad's a coach, or dad's a broadcaster, or dad's a

1034
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: bank president, the Sun gets placed into a position he's

1035
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: not quite ready for. And if it wasn't for Monnie Kiffin,

1036
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 1: Lane probably doesn't get the raider job.

1037
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: We don't know.

1038
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: He's just another young assistant McVeigh, you know, like grandpa

1039
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: or somebody was a general manager. That's different.

1040
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't high profile.

1041
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 1: But I think one of the vagaries of having a famous,

1042
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: successful dad and if you go into the same industry

1043
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: is you tend to get inserted into places that eventually

1044
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: you are ahead of people and you will be successful.

1045
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: But Lane was like kid coach, like thirty two years old,

1046
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: and it's and I can't remember when he went to USC.

1047
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: He just wasn't he And I was rooting for him,

1048
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 1: but he was a little loose with his private personal life.

1049
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: He just didn't quite know how to be a head

1050
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 1: coach at USC. Wasn't the play calling. But I think

1051
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 1: there is an advantage when dad or grandpa or somebody

1052
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: ran the bank and you get into finance, there's an advantage.

1053
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: But I look around college football now and in a

1054
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: big game, I'm gonna tell you this, I would not

1055
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 1: want to face Lang Kiffin. I think he's clever. He

1056
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: by the way, playing with house money at all. Miss

1057
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: He's he's like he has the talent of most the

1058
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: top six, but none of the pressure that an Ohio

1059
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: State does if they met in the playoff.

1060
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 3: I think one thing that is dramatically different about him

1061
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 3: is at USC he almost had like this angry, edgy

1062
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 3: anti media being fun, and he's the complete opposite. Now

1063
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 3: he's just much more looser, especially in front of a camera.

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00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 3: He feels much more natural. Maybe he just embraced it. Listen,

1065
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 3: Jimmy Sexton and Nick Saban changed his life. He says

1066
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 3: it as much right when he goes to Nick, and

1067
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 3: I wonder if he saw Nick like, you can be

1068
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 3: this hard driving, kind of a hole coach on the

1069
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 3: field and kind of handle when the lights are on

1070
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 3: with the media. Because you're in that business as an

1071
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 3: NFL coach. Your roster's your roster. You're not recruiting anyone

1072
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 3: out there in college football. It's a little different. It's

1073
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 3: why Nick, when the camera's on, kind of turns into

1074
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 3: a different guy. He has all these different kind of

1075
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 3: like characters he can play where I think Lane struggle

1076
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 3: with it now you watch him. I saw this clip

1077
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 3: on the internet the other day about he was on

1078
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 3: with the SEC the network guys, and they were asking

1079
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 3: about his dad and he's like, starts. You just got

1080
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: this emotional side of Lane. You have to remember Lane

1081
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 3: was a quarterback at Fresno State in the late nineties

1082
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 3: who when Pat Hill recruited Billy Vollock and David Carr,

1083
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 3: they said, Lane, you're never gonna play her. Immediately just

1084
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 3: transitioned into being a coach with Jeff Tedford, who was

1085
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator. This guy transitioned at like twenty years

1086
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 3: old to being a coach. And like you said, to me,

1087
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 3: it is an advantage if you do like you're mentally

1088
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 3: or I would say mature enough to handle it. Like

1089
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan. This guy went right into it. And to me,

1090
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 3: Kyle's much more serious in the sense of you're not

1091
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 3: screwing around as much. Lane has some interests, I would

1092
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 3: say outside the football building. I wonder if he just

1093
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 3: has corralled it all and got the right people around him.

1094
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 3: But his personality in front of the quote unquote media

1095
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 3: or when he's doing things with a camera on, to me,

1096
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 3: is dramatically different than the guy that we saw at USC,

1097
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,959
Speaker 3: which I thought was part of his undoing. He wasn't

1098
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 3: that likable? Isn't that a huge part of life? Like,

1099
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 3: if you're kind of likable, people root for you. Like

1100
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 3: the Sam Pittman guy at Arkansas. I think he's not

1101
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 3: very good, but everyone loves the guy.

1102
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like everybody's really friendly. Stepdad be hard to fire,

1103
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: you know. It's like the Freakonomics top To talked about that.

1104
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: I think it was Freakonomics was the book they talked

1105
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: about that the doctors that get sued aren't the bad doctors.

1106
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: The doctors that get sued are often the most educated

1107
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: and the most successful doctors. They don't have good bedside manner.

1108
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: It's impossible to sue even the incompetent doctor you love, right,

1109
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: It's hard to fire somebody you really have great affection for.

1110
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: It's easy to sue the asshole surgeon that's screwed up

1111
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: during the surgery. Right. Like. So, I think as you

1112
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: become more likable, and let's be honest about this, my

1113
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: dad used to say this, you your employment will be

1114
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: based in rooms that you're not in. People will raise

1115
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: their hand, a boss will say, you know, raise your hand.

1116
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,479
Speaker 1: Colin stays or goes.

1117
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 2: There's nine, you need five.

1118
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 3: You have rid of middle cough, the room goes silent.

1119
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 2: Me and Logan have those meetings almost every other week.

1120
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: There's a lot to be said with Lane is that

1121
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: when you're a little snarky and you go in a

1122
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: three game losing streak, or it's just much easier to

1123
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: get rid of guys that are.

1124
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 3: Pain Well, I'll give you a guy because in the

1125
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 3: NFL that only goes so far. If you're winning six

1126
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 3: to seven games, no matter how much they like you,

1127
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 3: they run you out of town. Arthur Smith, I remember

1128
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 3: when they fired or Arthur Smith was fired by Arthur

1129
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,919
Speaker 3: Blank and Arthur Blanks I love the guy. I didn't

1130
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 3: want to do it, but he just wasn't good enough.

1131
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 3: I'm watching I was slipping around channels and watching Big

1132
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 3: ten Network. They had on Matt Ruhle. I'm like, ah,

1133
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 3: this guy's I see why this guy a good college coach.

1134
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 3: He's just kind of got a personality, can own the

1135
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 3: room when the camera's on, and you're like, I get it.

1136
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 3: And I've heard he's not easy to play for. Yes,

1137
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,919
Speaker 3: it can be really difficult. And they're the classic team

1138
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 3: of like they bring in this young hot shot quarterback,

1139
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 3: and the expectations are high and it's usually hard to

1140
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 3: live up to those. All of a sudden, you win

1141
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 3: seven eight games, people are maybe like we sneak into

1142
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 3: the playoffs. Week two is Nebraska hosting Colorado. I mean,

1143
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw the clip. I think

1144
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 3: it was yesterday or two days ago. Even Dion was like, hey, CBS,

1145
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 3: whoever hear from CB, I'm sorry, We're all good now.

1146
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 3: I would imagine someone in Colorado like, we can't be

1147
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 3: doing all this, Like we gotta be a little careful.

1148
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 3: Pick your battles. You're not you're not the player. And

1149
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 3: that's where I think Dion kind of carries himself like

1150
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 3: you're the coach, but you got all these other guys

1151
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 3: and beside your couple sons in Travis Hunter, some of

1152
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 3: these guys aren't gonna be all back up all your words, right.

1153
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 3: We don't have Alabama. Who've gotta be careful that game

1154
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 3: because last year, remember Nebraska's quarterback looked like me. I mean,

1155
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:40,439
Speaker 3: it was a joke.

1156
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: It was awful.

1157
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a little more interesting this time around.

1158
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 3: That's one of those there's a lot of like you know,

1159
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 3: USC LSU and all these That's a game that I

1160
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 3: have this season circled like I want to. I'll be

1161
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 3: will not be moving off the couch for that one.

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff, former NFL Scout three and out as always,

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Speaker 1: Buddy Gray stuff see con the volume. Thanks so much

1164
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,720
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