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Speaker 1: you back yourselves into a corner when you release college

429
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Speaker 1: football playoff rankings every week. Like the crowd that says

430
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Speaker 1: we shouldn't have AP votes and AP polls and rankings

431
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Speaker 1: until week five, What you really ought to be yelling

432
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: at the poll that matters is maybe you guys ought

433
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Speaker 1: not release that thing until selection Sunday, Because had the

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Speaker 1: committee not let you know what they thought about Notre

435
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: Dame and Miami relative to each other, had you never

436
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 1: known that Miami dropped to eighteen and then worked their

437
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: way all the way back up, Had you never known

438
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: that Alabama jumped Notre Dame yesterday or last week leading

439
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: into yesterday, Like, had you not known all that, you

440
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't have nearly as much to complain about and think

441
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 1: about the entire side market of conspiracy and therefore content

442
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 1: conspiracy equals content in our world. Then it creates when

443
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Speaker 1: you're thinking you know what the playoff rankings are, you're

444
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Speaker 1: guessing you've looked at the AP you've looked at like

445
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: McClintock and those guys, Dave bar two and those guys

446
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: do a great job at letting you know, hey, here,

447
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Speaker 1: based on our modeling, here's what the committee rankings would

448
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Speaker 1: be right now, But you wouldn't unequivocally know until selection Sunday.

449
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: Imagine being in the dark totally until selection Sunday. Now,

450
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 1: the counter argument to that is, well, if we think

451
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: this process is corrupt, now, imagine how much more corrupt

452
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 1: it would be if we didn't have to have minimum

453
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: baseline accountability with them making their results public week to week,

454
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Speaker 1: which is a valid counterpoint. I think the third point

455
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Speaker 1: that I would make if you're going to have the

456
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Speaker 1: week to week is you've got to publicize the deliberation.

457
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Speaker 1: You've got to publicize it. Now. We know that will

458
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: never happen because the committee does not operate the way

459
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: they tell you they operate. That committee is not full

460
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Speaker 1: of twelve or thirteen ads or whatever sitting there with

461
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Speaker 1: their readers all the way down on the tips of

462
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Speaker 1: their noses, just meticulously grinding over data and tape as

463
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: their fourth cup of coffee is delivered at two thirty

464
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: eight am. That's not the way it works. I've long

465
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Speaker 1: maintained they get a simple spreadsheet, the computer spits it

466
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Speaker 1: out to him and does ninety five percent of the

467
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: work for him, and then they just kind of moved

468
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:04,959
Speaker 1: the chess pieces around a little bit at the very

469
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Speaker 1: end if they need to. But I do think changes

470
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Speaker 1: will come on that front. The five seed is just

471
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: golden yet again in this format, the five and six

472
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Speaker 1: seeds unless this thing changes, but especially the five seed

473
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: is such an opportunistic place to be that I ask,

474
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Speaker 1: what would you rather do? The organ ducts are the

475
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: five seed? What would you rather do? Now? Dan Landing's

476
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: a good friend of the program, and I would never

477
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,719
Speaker 1: be able to convince him to come on air and

478
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: say we were totally cool not playing in the Big

479
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: Ten Championship game yesterday. But they were totally cool not

480
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Speaker 1: playing in the Big Ten Championship game yesterday. And those

481
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Speaker 1: are not his words. I'm speaking for him, which I

482
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Speaker 1: am at liberty to do, And I'm asking you, do

483
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Speaker 1: you want to win the Big ten title? Of course

484
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Speaker 1: you do, but your ultimate goal here is to win

485
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Speaker 1: a national championship. Where would you rather be? Would you

486
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Speaker 1: rather have to play in a game yesterday? And risk

487
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Speaker 1: losing like Bama did and then playing a first round

488
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: game anyway, or would you rather be parked right there

489
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: where Oregon is. Be a twenty one and a half

490
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Speaker 1: point favorite in Round one, win the game at home,

491
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Speaker 1: and then advance to round two. You're gonna play Texas Tech.

492
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Speaker 1: But if you beat Texas Tech, I mean, if you

493
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Speaker 1: play Texas Tech, like you're looking at a roster advantage,

494
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: you're probably looking at a roster advantage against the first

495
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Speaker 1: and second teams you play. You may have one against

496
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Speaker 1: the third team you play, But just forget about the

497
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Speaker 1: matchups for a second. If you're the five seed, you're

498
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Speaker 1: playing the twelve seed, which until further notice, is going

499
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Speaker 1: to be a G five team. You didn't have to

500
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Speaker 1: play a game yesterday, so you'll be three weeks rested

501
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,479
Speaker 1: by the time that game happens, and then you get

502
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Speaker 1: to play what equates to a warm up game before

503
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: you play another team that's been rested. And you found

504
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: out last year having a first round by is not

505
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Speaker 1: the best thing in the world, so you kind of

506
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: you get to play a playoff game almost as a

507
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Speaker 1: tune up opportunity. That five seed great spot to be

508
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Speaker 1: six seed as it turns out this year is Ole

509
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: Miss and they're facing a team that they beat what

510
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: like forty five to seven or something like that the

511
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: first time around. So yes, we have our playoff bracket set.

512
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Speaker 1: It's unfortunate that we have two games that are seventeen

513
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: plus point spreads in round one, but we do have

514
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Speaker 1: two of them that are must see. Look at the

515
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Speaker 1: potential second round matchups. We could get Miami against Ohio

516
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Speaker 1: State or A and M against Ohio State. Either way,

517
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Speaker 1: from a pure talent profile, I mean, outside of Texas,

518
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Speaker 1: those will be the best groups that Ohio State's face

519
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: this year. Check me on that, Jesse. Who else will

520
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: Ohio State have face. Michigan's not to that level. They

521
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: didn't face Oregon this year. Indiana's not to that level.

522
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: Indiana may be a better football team, but in term,

523
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Speaker 1: I'm just talking about pure talent roster, which is not

524
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: the end all be all. I understand that, But from

525
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: a pure athleticism and talent roster makeup, A and M

526
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 1: and or Miami may present the best challenge that Ohio

527
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: State has seen this side of Texas. Now, they beat Texas,

528
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean they weren't athletically matched across the

529
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: board from Texas, we could get Ole Miss Georgia rematch.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get an Oregon Texas Tech. We could get

531
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Speaker 1: either Oklahoma Indiana or if it's Alabama Indiana, that's Debor

532
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: against his old team. And either way it's Kurt Signetti

533
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: sitting there playing a playoff game. Just incredible. So yeah,

534
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: there you go. It's incredibly dry in the studio right now. Unfortunately,

535
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: the only lip bomb we had left was this red kind,

536
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: so I'm not wearing lipstick. I promise boy. Quick Trip

537
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: had a busy weekend with us. This weekend. Quick Trip

538
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: was present and accounted for at our live show Friday

539
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: night in Atlanta, which I'll talk about later. It went

540
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: better than best case scenario, unbelievable. More to come. They

541
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Speaker 1: fueled us there, and they fueled you because Jesse, I

542
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: don't know how many cards we handed out, maybe a thousand,

543
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: but we handed out a whole lot of Quick Trip

544
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: gas cards. So a lot of people showed up and

545
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: left with a free tank of gas. I'm told that

546
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: Quick Trip and got heavily involved at the concession stand,

547
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: so that's great. And then on the way home, Tank's

548
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: running low. Just hit Quick Trip up if your energy's

549
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: running low, cole Brew on tap if your Tommy's grumbling

550
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't have time to list all

551
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: the assortment and variety of snacks and just straight up

552
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: outright food that would pass for a real meal that

553
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: they have inside. But we appreciate Quick Trip man, appreciate

554
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: them big time. You know, I got plenty more to

555
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: say about the playoff. Trust me, I'm gonna spread it

556
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: throughout the show. The SEC Championship game happened yesterday. We

557
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: were there, fueled by Quick Trip no less. We went

558
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: down to Atlanta. A bunch of our friends of the

559
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: program were there. We did the ESPN altcast. I'll tell

560
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: you guys about that in a little while. That was amazing.

561
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: A lot of you tuned in for that. I'm told

562
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: the game gets one and a half chili and that's

563
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: music to the ears of Georgia fans because finally you

564
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: exercise a lot of the demons that you've had to

565
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: get to Alabama and you're able to celebrate in the

566
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. I was on the Georgia sideline last night.

567
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: I will tell you it wasn't quite the TCU game

568
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: from a few years ago, like they weren't going to

569
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: the concessions and getting chicken wings and eating them on

570
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: the sideline. It wasn't that bad, but there were a

571
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Speaker 1: lot of you know, top button undone arms spread over

572
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: the bleachers, sort of just leaned back taking it all

573
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: in in the fourth quarter of that game. So what

574
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: have we said on this show about Georgia all year?

575
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: You got to cut the head off the snake, and

576
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 1: several teams had the chance to cut the head off

577
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: the snake that is Georgia, and you didn't cut the

578
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: head off the snake. You remember the Tennessee game earlier

579
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: this year, went the overtime Tennessee misses a field goal

580
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: that would have won the game, could have been another loss,

581
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: but it wasn't. Bama beat him in the regular season.

582
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: That was their only blemish. You remember the Auburn game.

583
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: Georgia just totally dead in the water. Could have been

584
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: down seventeen to nothing at half. Instead it's ten to

585
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: three at the half. Auburn couldn't cut the head off

586
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: snake Florida. They're down late in the fourth quarter and

587
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: they have to drive to win that game. Florida had

588
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: a chance to really kind of define and stamp their season.

589
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: But they couldn't cut the head off the snake. Ole

590
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: Miss and Lane Kiffin are up two possessions on Georgia

591
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: in Athens second half, fourth quarter, even Georgia comes back

592
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: to win. Couldn't cut the head off the snake. So

593
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: many people grip that shovel, so many people tried, and

594
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: Georgia just last minute darts to the left, darts to

595
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: the right, and what ends up happening. They faced Texas

596
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: three weeks ago and they stuff them in a locker

597
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: and everyone leaves going, uh oh, we didn't cut the

598
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: head off the snake. And then they do what they

599
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: did in as Georgia Tech last week. I know that

600
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: looks like a close game. That game never felt like

601
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: it was in doubt, and they go right back to

602
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: that same building eight days later, and it just it's

603
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: another of many, many examples of how unmatched I think

604
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: Georgia's competitive character is. In the SEC. You could argue

605
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: Ohio State nationally, and that's about the only one that

606
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: I would listen to from a pure competitive culture standpoint.

607
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna win every game, but it does

608
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: mean if you beat Georgia you brought your a game

609
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,239
Speaker 1: to do it. Very, very rarely do they do it

610
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: for you. And also, I think it's such a testament

611
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: and I've said this before and I'll say it again

612
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: to how hard they keep coaching all year. It's not

613
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: a situation where you coach hard in the spring and

614
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: then summer and then fall camp and then once you

615
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: get to week one, you just are who you are. No,

616
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: it's like a starting point for them. But the culture

617
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: has been questioned at times around Georgia. I've always pushed

618
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: back on it and I've taken a lot of heat

619
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Speaker 1: for it because when they had the off the field

620
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: incidents that happened in Droves a couple of years ago,

621
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: everyone said, oh, Georgia's culture sucks. Georgia's culture competitively doesn't suck.

622
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: And believe me, I know what the pushback there is.

623
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: The pushback was then and still is probably, Oh, just

624
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: cause you stack a bunch of great football players on

625
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: top of each other, that's not indication of culture. Anyone

626
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: can win when you have great players. No, they can't

627
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: know they can't. Also, there's a lot of skill in

628
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: stacking the great players because they don't really cut corners

629
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: there to do it. If you're familiar with the Georgia

630
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: recruiting approach, you know they're not always going to outspend you,

631
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: and they're not really going to apologize or sugarcoat what

632
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: it's like there, because they count on that being a

633
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: filtration part of the recruiting process, and they don't want

634
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: every four and five star to come through that filter.

635
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: They want the filter to catch a lot of the

636
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: guys that would melt inside Georgia. I was standing there

637
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: talking to someone last night and they said, man, I

638
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: can't believe Alabama didn't get up for this game. And I,

639
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of laughed. I said, well, you

640
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: mean get up? He said, Man, they just they just

641
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: get They didn't get up like Georgia got up this week.

642
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: It's so obvious they didn't get up this week any

643
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: more than they normally would. They played a pretty good

644
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: game last night. They played a three phase game. They

645
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: were very effective. They dominated the game. But please understand

646
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: that's not Georgia getting up. It's not about the music

647
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: you listen to the day of the game, or the

648
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: inspirational video you watched the night before the game, or

649
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: the text that your uncle sends you in all caps

650
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: or the bus ride over there. That's not how you

651
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: win games. They got up for this game in February,

652
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: they got up for the game the third week of April.

653
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: They get up for the game with the decisions they

654
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: make on a random Tuesday morning in July when they

655
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: could be home if they want to, or how they

656
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: handle a practice in the middle of the season when

657
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: they may have like Austin p on deck. It's a standard.

658
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: That's what competitive culture is. And anybody who dips below

659
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: that standard, they don't last at places like that very long.

660
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: And I say places like that, there really aren't many,

661
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: but it's on displaying games like last night. So this

662
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 1: wasn't some vintage, high flying blowout effort. What it was

663
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: was a very very complimentary approach where they just suffocated Alabama.

664
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: Negative three rushing yards is impressive, and I don't really

665
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: care who you're facing, but dominance looks like that. So

666
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: dominance is Georgia scoring four touchdowns with three drives starting

667
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: in Alabama territory. That's a blocked punt, that's an interception,

668
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: and their fourth scoring drive I think started on the

669
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: Bama forty three special teams tilted the field so hard.

670
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: This is like what Oklahoma did to Alabama. By the way,

671
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: you want a paper popper. Georgia's starting field position average

672
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: was their forty yard line. Alabama's average starting field position

673
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 1: was their eighteen yard line. This is another one, a

674
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: lot of paper poppers. Kirby gave us a record number

675
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: of paper poppers. Twelve Bama drives last night. None of

676
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 1: them started at better than the Alabama twenty five yard line.

677
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: So the best start that Bama had last night, they

678
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: had seventy five yards to go to score a touchdown.

679
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: Georgia four or four in the red zone. Alabama held

680
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: to negative rushing yardage. And honestly, I was standing on

681
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: the field, so you don't exactly know where those numbers

682
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: are stacking up. But the one thing that was very

683
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: apparent as a guy who also stood on the field

684
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: to watch Georgia Texas is it felt like the Georgia

685
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: Texas game. They have three sacks, that's great. They had

686
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: eighteen pressures on ty Simpson and that's kind of what

687
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: they did to Arch and that's kind of what that

688
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: front has done to Texas a few times that they've

689
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: played them. They hadn't handled Alabama like that until last night.

690
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: I know Obama's banged up. Everyone's banged up. No one

691
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: needs to make the excuse for me. But that performance

692
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: from a Georgia pass rush and a Georgia front that's

693
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 1: gotten healthier and it's continued to elevate. That second part's

694
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: the most important part. Their football players are playing their

695
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: best right now. That stood out like yet. There may

696
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: have been some miracle where Alabama just threads the needle,

697
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: but they were going to have to do that. And

698
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: by the way, the Bama defense. When I was driving

699
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: out of there, I heard some fans talking about Cane

700
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: Womack oh Man, Bama's defense dropped the ball. Dude. Alabama's

701
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: defense was the least of their problems last night, missing

702
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: lt Overton and still Georgia's longest play was nineteen yards. Guys,

703
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: you can't give average starting field position like that. You

704
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: can't let that many drives start in your territory and

705
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: look and say, all right, defense, we're not gonna do

706
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: anything to help you out. We're not gonna score. I mean,

707
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: we couldn't throw our way out of a wet paper bag.

708
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: We certainly couldn't run our way through tissue right now.

709
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: Don't you let them score though? Yeah, that's not the

710
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: way football really works. So it's a very disappointing performance

711
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: by Alabama. But man, that has a lot to do

712
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: with the team lined up across from them. But the

713
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: whole take that we had coming into this one, I

714
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: picked Georgia to win a close game. The reason you

715
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: don't ever want to give them Obama is because they've

716
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: had this mental edge against Georgia. But also you do

717
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: know there's this tight rope that Alabama offensively has to walk.

718
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: If they walk it, they can win. But the point

719
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: is the tightrope walk. Every Alabama drive feels like a

720
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: tightrope walk. And the whole thing about a tightrope walk

721
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: is if you make it to the other side, it's great,

722
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: it's legendary. Everyone remembers it. Why do they remember it?

723
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: Because the risk is you fall off the tightrope and

724
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: if everything doesn't go right, if everything's not clicking right now,

725
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: because they can't run the ball and that offensive line's

726
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 1: banged up. And I would argue Josh Quavis number eighty

727
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 1: for him is an extremely underappreciated facet of their offense.

728
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: And he didn't play last night, and so you got

729
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: freshman tailbacks, which makes the tailback pass ineffective. Out of

730
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: the backfield. You don't have your usual third down safety

731
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: valve in Quavis, your offensive lines beat the death. If

732
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: you don't walk the tight rope, you die. They weren't

733
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: able to walk the tightrope last night. That's kind of

734
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: why I've been phrasing it like that. It's cool when

735
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: it works, But that Georgia threw the crowbar and the

736
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: spokes last night, that's exactly what happened. Now because we

737
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: know now that Alabama's made the playoff, the following question

738
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: is how much healthier can they get? And they've got

739
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: confidence they can get a fair amount healthier obviously than

740
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: they were last night. But the reason I'm not focusing

741
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: on health the whole lot is cause guys, Georgia played

742
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: without their starting center last night, and Tim Keenan, I mean,

743
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: coming back from injury. The first time these teams played

744
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: was fully healthy last night, and that was not even

745
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: a focal point of that game much. We got to

746
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and I looked at Lawan and I said,

747
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 1: have we even mentioned the lack of Drew Bobo tonight?

748
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: Have we even mentioned his absence. No, did you hear

749
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: Kirby smart after this game. One of the reasons why

750
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: I kept hammering the drum that Alabama losing that game

751
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: was not going to cost them a playoff spot is

752
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 1: because the SEC was not going to allow that to happen.

753
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: I don't mean they technically control the playoff committee. I

754
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: mean the playoff committee was well aware if we remove

755
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: a participant from the playoff or from the playoff that

756
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: was in the SEC championship game, the otherwise would have

757
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: been the playoff. It is curtains as far as the

758
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: SEC is concerned, they were going to go scort Stirth.

759
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: Kirby made a good point in his postgame press conference

760
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: last night. He said, we're about to move to nine

761
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: conference games. You just witnessed our ninth league game this year.

762
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: US in Alabama just played our ninth league game, and

763
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: it's like Georgia. The winning team crawls to the podium

764
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: with cuts and scrapes all over and their mouths bleeding,

765
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: and they maybe can cussed figuratively, of course, and they're like,

766
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: that's the winning team. And he said, you know, he

767
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: talked about Alabama. He said they're beat to death too,

768
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: like that's their ninth league game. That's just what we're

769
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: going to voluntarily enter ourselves into. And then this would

770
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: be the tenth SEC game that some of us play.

771
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: And he said, there's a lot of concern around the

772
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: league right now. A lot of people think that's whining

773
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: until they come and coach or play in the SEC

774
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: and they find out, like, this is the only league

775
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: where the bad teams have a whole bunch of Sunday talent.

776
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: This is like in the SEC, the way recruiting is

777
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: is Dylan Stewart will legitimately decide to go South Carolina

778
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: over Georgia or Alabama. That would never happen in the

779
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: Big Ten. The Big Ten is so perfectly set up

780
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: right now because the Big Ten there's a tighter concentration

781
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: of talent. The good players are going to go to

782
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: three or four programs. They're not choosing Wisconsin, they're not

783
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: choosing Michigan State. That's just not going to happen in

784
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: the SEC. Dude, Arkansas gets some players, like South Carolina

785
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: gets players, and you'll look at them and you'll say,

786
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Well? Those places disproportionately take football

787
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: more serious and so the trade off is, and here's

788
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: what sucks in the end. None of your teams may

789
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: be as good as Ohio State or Indiana we'll see,

790
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: but the middle pack they still beat up on you.

791
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: And you may go in there and beat them twenty

792
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: to nine or something like that in week seven, but

793
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: your training room looks no less crowded that following Sunday morning,

794
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: just because the team you played had a bad record

795
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 1: and now they're going to sign up for more of those.

796
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: Look the Kaitlin Debori year two experiment as it it's

797
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: not an experiment, the era year two. It's still playing out.

798
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna reserve judgment. You know, we can do the

799
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: post mortem once they're season's done. It's not done. Now

800
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: they're going to the playoff. I kind of thought both

801
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: of these teams last night should be proud to get

802
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: to that moment. I mean, if you know, like the

803
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: public injury report is only a small part of the

804
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: story for that team right there. I mean, I would

805
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: argue is far worse than the injury report made it look.

806
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: George is the same way. Okay, so both of the

807
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,479
Speaker 1: teams can say this, but Georgia one. So you don't

808
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: have to contextualize it with Alabama, They're banged up badly,

809
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna play a game. They got at least one

810
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: more game they get to play against Oklahoma. Let's see

811
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 1: how that thing plays out, you know, because I'm still

812
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: an extremely high believer in Kaitlin de Bourn in these

813
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: big leverage situations. Let's see how that looks. But overall,

814
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: just kind of offensively, I just felt like they had

815
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: no where to turn. Georgia gave them no where to turn.

816
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: Their own execution or lack thereof, gave them no where

817
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: to turn. I will say this though, a bunch of

818
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: you were following along just our overall, our overall journey

819
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: this week. This week was incredible for us. It started Thursday.

820
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: We went up to New York City. We did get

821
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: up on green Look when Mike Greenberg hit you up

822
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: and says, I need you in New York, I need

823
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: you in studio. We got to talk multiple segments of

824
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: college football. You look at your phone and you go, oh,

825
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: is he serious? Wow? Good for Greeney. And you go

826
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: up there and we did that Thursday, and then you

827
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: come home and you do your live show in Nashville

828
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: that Thursday night slightly pre recorded on Thursday. We went

829
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: down to Atlanta on Friday and we sold out the

830
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: Buckhead Theater there in Atlanta. Look at you, guys. This

831
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: was an incredible moment. We did not broadcast this live

832
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: because that's the value of attending a ticketed event. Cublick

833
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: joined us, even though we had complications getting in the building.

834
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: Will Compton Taylor Lawan joined us there. We had a

835
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: bunch of friends of the program show up, a Lissa

836
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,479
Speaker 1: Lang stop by, Chris Doring stopped by. We had Peter

837
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: Burns join us on stage. We had exclusive merch that's

838
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: only available at our live event, and I don't know

839
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: whatever my expectations were for that merchandise, but you guys

840
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: blew that away. Everything about the show was better than

841
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: best case scenario. We intentionally went into that show having

842
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: no format. I didn't even take a piece of paper

843
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: on stage with me. We had no idea how we

844
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: wanted it to go. So I literally told our production

845
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: team turn the mics on. That's it. Open the doors

846
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: and turn the mics on. So we learned a few lessons, obviously,

847
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: But that was so fun, and it was the first

848
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: time that we've ever had an event where in very

849
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: very large numbers, our audience comes together, and about a

850
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: thousand of you were there. That's as many as we

851
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: could fit in there. So you guys can attest to this.

852
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: But for the many, many more of you who weren't

853
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: there and who will hopefully be able to attend the

854
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: several of these we do in the future, yes, that's happening.

855
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 1: The vibe was pretty incredible. You never know what to expect,

856
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, when you've built an audience like ours, but

857
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: you haven't had those kind of events. You don't know

858
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: what it's like when everyone gets together. I don't know

859
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: how to describe it. It felt like a family reunion, just

860
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: a great, big family reunion. It's unbelievable. So I've always

861
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,959
Speaker 1: known the attachment. I've always known how loyal you guys

862
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: are to the show and me in turn to you

863
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: like I've always known that, but it was really nice

864
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: to see it validated, I guess with a real tangible example.

865
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: So that was man, it was a load of fun.

866
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna do several more of those, you know, So

867
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: anyone who had FOMO, if you had fear of missing

868
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: out on that one, we'll do that. Several more time.

869
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: We had some very very high level meetings on Friday

870
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: with a bunch of very important people who are very

871
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: interested in taking those concepts and duplicating them several times over.

872
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: And that includes the next day when myself, along with

873
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: Harry Douglas, along with Taylor Luwan and Will Compton, we're

874
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: just handed microphones by ESPN and thrown on national television

875
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: to call the SEC Championship game. This right here is

876
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: some of the most fun I've ever had. Kirby Smart,

877
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: right before the SEC Championship Game, walks up and says, guys,

878
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: you got to make sure you enjoy this. Well we did.

879
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: We did. It was bumpy out of the gate, you know,

880
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: because none of us have done that before. But eventually,

881
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, Tibo comes up, very inquisitive, happy, happy to

882
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: assist him any kind of advice he needed. This was

883
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: so much fun. We got great traction on this. This

884
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: is a concept that I highly expect we'll be able

885
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: to explore again big time thanks to Pat McAfee. Pat

886
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: McAfee is why we were able to do this. That

887
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: is Pat's package. That recording artist Pat McAfee, mind you,

888
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: that is his package. That is his property and he

889
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: was able to put us on it, and then thanks

890
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: to ESPN for trusting us enough to be able to

891
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: execute it. Man, that was real fun. I've never done

892
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: play by play before, like I've never done broadcast and

893
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: color before, so that was a really really fun pool

894
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: to just dip the toe in. But again, I want

895
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: to circle back to the same thing I said about

896
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: the live show. We cannot do any of it without

897
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: what this audience has done, without what the bust and

898
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: audience has done for those guys. And there's very very

899
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: heavy overlap there, and we understand that, and we really

900
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: really appreciate that. And you guys have given us so

901
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: many opportunities, and I promise you again. You can tell

902
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: I'm sort of bursting at the seams to be able

903
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: to say more, but I can't right now. We're going

904
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: to have many, many more opportunities because of that. And

905
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: then I have to always follow that up with promising

906
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: you that doesn't mean anything about the show. We are

907
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: never going to screw the show up. The show is

908
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: going nowhere other than where it is right now, the

909
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: same way it is right now. Anything we get because

910
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: of the success of the show will be in addition

911
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: to it will be an ornament on the tree. The

912
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: show's the tree, so Peyte State forever, let us move on.

913
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: We had yet another conference championship game last night. I

914
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: get home in Nashville in time to watch the whole

915
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: second half, and of course I've since gone back and

916
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: watched the entire Big Ten championship game. And you guys

917
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: did it. You guys did it. Indiana thirteen, Ohio State ten.

918
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: I'd put we deliberated two and a half Chaali on

919
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: this game. You could easily argue three. It's very weird

920
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: a three point game in a conference title game. I

921
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: think we'll get some pushback on that. I think some

922
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: people thought that maybe a forour Chalai game. I just

923
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: I couldn't help but watch it before I talk a

924
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: bunch of Indiana. I couldn't help but watch it and say,

925
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: you know, this seems familiar. Ohio State's played this game

926
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: half a dozen times this year, this kind of compressed,

927
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: compacted game. They play, kind of conservative. But you're sitting

928
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: there thinking to yourself, they're playing this way cause they

929
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: don't need to play any other way. I've seen that

930
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: before from them. What I haven't seen is that against

931
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: a premier opponent that limits your scoring drives and you're

932
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: unable to convert scoring opportunities. That happened last night. That

933
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: was really the big difference. So that means giant tip

934
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: of the cap if I was wearing one to Indiana.

935
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: Because what we have here is we have our badlock

936
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 1: game of the year. The badlock stat is opite opposite

937
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: of the padlock stat. The padlock stat on this show

938
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: is the one thing or the one stat that if

939
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: I told you Friday, you would have known the outcome

940
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: of the game. A badlock stat is the kind of

941
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: stat that would so badly have misled you. You would

942
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: have bet your house or your form. Perhaps you live

943
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: on a farm, and you would have lost it all.

944
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: This was the latter. This is a badlock stat Game

945
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: of the Year. And it's very simple. If I tell

946
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: you that Indiana is scoring thirteen, you are printing the programs,

947
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: you are buying the merchandise, you are assembling the bags

948
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: of confetti for Ohio State. They have won the Big

949
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: Ten championship. And you know what, that's not true because

950
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: Indian scored thirteen and it was good enough cause the

951
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: other guy only scored ten. That is the fewest amount

952
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: of points Indiana has scored in a game under Kurt Signetti,

953
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: and they won a conference title. Anyway, it's the fewest

954
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: points Indiana has scored in a win since two thousand

955
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: and one. Fernando Mendoza surged in the Heismanods after this game,

956
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: and that's wonderful. And he cut one of the all

957
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: time legendary promos on that field after the game, and

958
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: Mino and full Well, there's a lot of America that

959
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: has not watched an Indiana game so far this year. Therefore,

960
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: you haven't heard Fernando Mendoza talk. And that had to

961
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: be in the best of ways, just a cold splash

962
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: of water to the face. Fernando Mendez is one of one.

963
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: Diego Pavia is one of one. Whatever the oil and

964
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: the water of the Heismanods were, and whatever the oil

965
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: and water of personality is, you've got it on display.

966
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Pavi is dressed to the knives with his

967
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: entoo walking into a UFC fight last night with his

968
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: team recording the entire thing, and Fernando Mendoza is replacing

969
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: the F word with flipping on national TV multiple times

970
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: in his thanks and his effusive praise of his team

971
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: and his teammates and his creator, and I have full

972
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: respect for that. I'm not making fun of him. I'm

973
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: just saying, if you listen to it and you've never

974
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: heard Fernando Mendoza talk, you might have thought to yourself,

975
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: what is this? What is happening? What is going on?

976
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: A Big Ten championship winning quarterback, That's what's going on.

977
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: So we get to see him go to the playoff.

978
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: But that's not what stands out. I suppose that was

979
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: long winded. I plan on that being five seconds. Great

980
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: for all those guys. Here's what happened last night. Bryant

981
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: Haynes locked up the Broyles Award. And I'm a voter,

982
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: so I'm sort of publicizing my vote here. Indiana's defensive

983
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: coordinator locked up the Broyles Award last night. As far

984
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, holds Ohio State to a season low

985
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: in points, season low in rush yards. Five sacks for

986
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: that defense, nine tackles for loss. They own the red zone.

987
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: They held Ohio State to four twelve on third and

988
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: fourth down. Again, imagine pulling up to the building and

989
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: the buses. Hey, Bryant offense is going to score thirteen

990
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: for you? Is that enough? And he goes, yeah, yeah,

991
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: we'll be good. He was right. As it turns out,

992
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 1: Ohio State played this game. Oh boy, let me think.

993
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: No matter what I say here, it's going to be

994
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: put in the hype video for whenever they play a

995
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: playoff game. You know what, Ryan Day's done a lot

996
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: for us. I owe this to Ryan Day. Ohio State

997
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: played like me Ma used to drive. Not reckless, not irresponsible.

998
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: I don't mean those things at all. I just mean

999
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: they played like they had some time to kill. That's

1000
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: how Memo used to drive me. Mall was like the

1001
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin of leaving early to arrive early. If you're

1002
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: ten minutes early, you're on time. If you're on time,

1003
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: you're ten minutes late. And so me Ma would always

1004
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: leave with plenty of time. Like church started at seven.

1005
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 1: We would leave her house at six twenty, knowing full

1006
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: well it's only twenty minutes away. Well, here's the trade off.

1007
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna do sixty four miles an hour in the

1008
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: right lane because we got time to kill. We don't

1009
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: need to be anywhere five minutes from now. And that's

1010
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: just how I felt like. Ohio State played last night.

1011
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: They had two drives trailing. Mind you, they had a

1012
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: couple of drives. One of them was twelve plays seventy

1013
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: yards took about seven minutes. Another drive was fifteen plays

1014
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: eighty one yards, took about eight minutes and got zero

1015
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 1: points out of either of those, and they were down

1016
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: thirteen to ten as those drives happened. The red zone

1017
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: is still an issue with them, miss field goal, can't

1018
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: convert on fourth down. I just kept thinking to myself,

1019
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: how are they this deep in the game and not

1020
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: allowing that wide receiver corps to take over. Now, the

1021
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: logical counter to that is, well, if you're so high

1022
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: on Bryan Haynes and that defense of Indiana, maybe they

1023
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: weren't letting them take over. No one dictates what Ohio

1024
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: State's wide receiver room is able to do. If they

1025
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: are able to like if alignment or if matchups are

1026
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: able to dictate that Jeremiah Smith ends up being a

1027
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: non factor late in the game, it is a dereliction

1028
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: of coaching duty. It's not that he lost his potential,

1029
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: it's not that he lost his talent, and it's also

1030
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: not that you got him on a team where it's

1031
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 1: him and a bunch of middle schoolers. You're so loaded

1032
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: in that room. There's just no excuse for Ohio State

1033
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: to be that bottled up, but they were so. Kurt

1034
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: Signetti the worst nightmare to me of like every other

1035
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: head coach in the country, Kurt Signetti's ruined it for

1036
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: a lot of guys. A lot of guys look at

1037
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: Signetti and they probably you know, praise him publicly, but

1038
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, do you understand how hard he has

1039
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: made other coaches lives because he burns all the excuse making.

1040
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: Because if Kurt Signetti can walk into Indiana in year

1041
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: one and do what he did and then follow it

1042
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: up with the year two performance, no one gets to

1043
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: ask for patients anymore. No one gets to look at

1044
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: their ad and say if you just don't have enough resources.

1045
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 1: No one gets to say we just got to recruit

1046
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: a little better, because the AD is going to look

1047
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: back and say, well, sig didn't have to. Kurt Signetti

1048
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: didn't say that. And what do you say. You're gonna say, well,

1049
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: we're not Indiana. They're not accepting that. Well, I'm not

1050
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti. That dude was that JMU searching for an

1051
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: opportunity in his sixties that Indiana finally gave him. They're

1052
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: not accepting that. I'm not saying that's logical irrational. I'm

1053
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: saying it is. That's just the way it's gonna be.

1054
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: And I go back to last year. Here's where I

1055
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: was so wrong about him, Kurt SIGNITTI kind of turned

1056
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: what we thought was the main event into the warm

1057
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: up act. Last year. They come out of nowhere. This

1058
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: is one of the stories of college football season, and

1059
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: they overachieved so drastically that even though they got blown

1060
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: out against Ohio State and they got handled pretty thoroughly

1061
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: against Notre Name, Like, my perspective was, don't hold them

1062
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: to the standard you would Georgia. This is Indiana. You've

1063
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 1: got to be effusive in your praise that they're even

1064
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: in this conversation. But the FOLLO was it's probably a

1065
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: one time deal though, and they'll fall back to earth.

1066
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: That was just their warm up. This team was so

1067
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 1: much better this year than last year's team. This team

1068
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: we ended up having them power rated number two by

1069
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: the time they played Ohio State, and well before that

1070
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: they were a legitimate number two. I'm talking when I

1071
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: say power rating, I mean like odds making, who would

1072
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 1: be favored? Neutral, feel that sort of thing. Last year,

1073
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 1: Indiana was never that they were an inflated record because

1074
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: they played an inferior schedule and they executed really well,

1075
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 1: But then when it came time to play the big boys,

1076
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: they got put in their place. This year, they are

1077
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: the big boy, and they put one of the other

1078
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: ones in its place yesterday, and now we get to

1079
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 1: see them with the first round by They're the number

1080
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: one overall seed in the playoffs. They're the Big Ten champs.

1081
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: And I don't want to fall victim to knee jerk

1082
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: reaction or speak hyperbolically, but I don't know how you

1083
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: don't at least consider Kurt Signetti on Mount Rushmore of

1084
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: college football. Josh, no, oh, you mean of all sports? No? No,

1085
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: just the Mount Rushmore, Just the Mount Rushmore. I know

1086
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: it's only presidents so far, but none of them have

1087
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: won Big Ten titles. None of them could have at

1088
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: Theodore Roosevelt. You think Abraham Lincoln is winning the Big

1089
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: Ten in year two anywhere, much less at Indiana? I

1090
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: don't think so. So gim me sig on Mount Rushmore.

1091
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: Who says no? And if you say no, you better

1092
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 1: give me good reason, do you guys? Do you guys

1093
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: know we got several college football games left. We do

1094
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: have playoff season coming up. Seat geek. Is there a

1095
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: lot of you cashed in on our discount there over

1096
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: the weekend, and I had a few testimonials sent my way.

1097
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: So here's our main viewpoint on this. You guys are

1098
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 1: gonna buy tickets. We're huge college football fans, but this

1099
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: could also be for basketball, it could be a concert,

1100
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: whatever your needs may be. I know our audience, most

1101
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: of you attend live events. Therefore, you've got to buy

1102
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: tickets now. Maybe your uncle owns an oil company and

1103
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: he can get you fixed up in his suite. Great, congrats,

1104
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: We're so happy for you. But the rest of us

1105
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: have to buy our tickets the semi old fashion way.

1106
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: I say semi old fashion because I don't think seat

1107
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: geek was around in nineteen ninety two. I don't think

1108
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 1: those Braves Pirates NLCS tickets were available on seat geek. However,

1109
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: Oklahoma Alabama tickets, they will be available. JMU Organ tickets,

1110
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: they will be available now. Since you're gonna buy the tickets,

1111
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: go to seat geek, and right before you check out.

1112
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: I get you a discount. I get you ten percent

1113
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: off your order. Just enter the code pay ten pat

1114
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: E one zero. That's ten percent off any tickets, not

1115
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: just college football Playoff. Make sure you clink the link

1116
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: in the description. It's right there below the video. You

1117
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: can download the app. You got the code automatically added

1118
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: to your account if you click on that link. So

1119
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: click the link and it's fine. Don't click the link,

1120
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,479
Speaker 1: just memorize pai ten. All right, back to the show.

1121
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: So these first round matchups, I did want to comment

1122
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: on these, and I did want to say hey to everyone.

1123
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm told they're playing NFL games right now, eleven twelve

1124
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: thousand people watching live, so I appreciate you, guys. I'm

1125
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: gonna get back to the playoff here. Since the round

1126
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: one games are set, I do have a few thoughts

1127
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: on these, Like Alabama's gonna play Oklahoma round one. We

1128
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: just saw the game a few weeks ago in a

1129
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: different venue. We saw Oklahoma come to Tuscaloosa. Remember that

1130
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: was the game? Yeah, you guys, remember that was the game.

1131
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: I was so confident in Alabama's gone. Got a little

1132
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: bit of a roll going on, and Model Loves Alabama.

1133
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: I think it was minus five and a half from

1134
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: minus six and a half. We laid the points, and

1135
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: the thing about the box score of the game was

1136
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: we got everything we thought we would get from a

1137
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: production standpoint, except one small problem, and that was minus

1138
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: three in the turnover column. And I remember, I would

1139
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: love to excuse this away. I would love for them

1140
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: to be those freak kind of you know, ball hit

1141
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: and offensive lineman's helmet popped up in the air and

1142
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: an OU linebacker caught it. It was not that it

1143
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: was Oklahoma forcing turnovers, and truthfully, it could have been

1144
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: a lot worse because there were some fumbles that Ou

1145
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: didn't recover that they forced. So we saw the game

1146
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago and Ou ended up winning a

1147
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: close game in Tuscaloosa. Same issue here. If Oklahoma is

1148
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: able to limit that run of Alabama's and why not

1149
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: everyone else does so. If they're able to do that again,

1150
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: and it comes down to Ty Simpson throwing this time,

1151
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: it's him trying to do it on the road. Norman,

1152
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: Oklahoma hosting a playoff game gonna be pretty special, so

1153
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: it's him having to do it on the road. It

1154
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: is a night kickoff that place will be lubricated, no immunity,

1155
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: It just is what it is. He had success against

1156
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: them the first time around statistically, but it came at

1157
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: a price, and the price was them having to rely

1158
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: on a high leverage offensive game script and Brent Venable's

1159
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: making them pay the price. So again, we're gonna see

1160
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: Oklahoma after a few weeks off here until further notice.

1161
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: We have to assume that John Matteer kind of is

1162
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: what he's gonna be. I don't know that, but I'm

1163
00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: gonna assume maybe limited production from Oklahoma offensively, just like

1164
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: Indiana showed us last night. If you're putting up thirteen,

1165
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you hold the other guy to ten.

1166
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: So if Oklahoma's going to get twenty on the board,

1167
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: a lot of them feel like that's going to be

1168
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: good enough to win. Plus they're going to listen to

1169
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,439
Speaker 1: people talk about how they don't really deserve to be there.

1170
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: Some people, you know, Dusty Devorceek's gonna make sure Gay

1171
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: Bike or Teddy Lehman going to make sure they scour

1172
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: the internet and find every disrespectful comment about Oklahoma, of

1173
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: which there will be many, and plastrum all over the place.

1174
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: And they absolutely will. I'm not going to contribute though,

1175
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: because I believe in a complimentary style of football. If

1176
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: you get praised for scoring fifty points a game offensively,

1177
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: you also ought to get praised for what you hold

1178
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: teams to defensively. So it's a home game at Oklahoma. Oh.

1179
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: They asked me when I did get up the other day,

1180
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: Greenie said, you're the commissioner, what would you do? I

1181
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: listed a few other things, but pretty high on my

1182
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: list was giving us more home playoff games. If we've

1183
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: got to expand the playoff, and we did, how do

1184
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: we look can say we only want one round? We

1185
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: only want one round of this. No, give me as

1186
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: many rounds of that as possible, immunity. That's gonna be great.

1187
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: In case you missed it, that is a Friday night

1188
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: eight pm Eastern seven pm local time. Kick. Alabama at

1189
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: Oklahoma is the Friday night game, and then Saturday. You've

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01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: got three games, speaking of which I've got thoughts on

1191
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: another game. So we know that game is on a

1192
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: Friday night. Well what about Saturday? Miami at Texas A

1193
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: and M is set as a first round playoff game.

1194
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: This game kicks off Saturday December twentieth. That's the good news.

1195
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: The bad news is eleven am Local kick. I understand

1196
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: the broadcast parameters like those are kind of fixed times,

1197
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: so you don't have much control over that because clearly,

1198
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: like you're gonna select the best two games if you're

1199
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: ESPN and then you have sub licensed the other games

1200
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 1: to T and T, they get third and fourth pick,

1201
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: but they do get the primetime spots. It is what

1202
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: it is. Is A M a five and a half

1203
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: point favorite at FanDuel right now. Interested to see if

1204
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: that number moves any So both teams will struggle to

1205
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: run the ball in this game. That is my strong suspicion. Now,

1206
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: if A and M can run the ball, they'll win

1207
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: the game. If they can't, or if it's limited, and

1208
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: it stands to be because Miami brings a top ten

1209
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: run defense into Kyle Field, then it once again falls

1210
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: on the shoulders of Marcell Reid. And kind of like

1211
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: we talked about with Ty Simpson, but more so with

1212
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: Marcel Reid's just going to be a high risk, high

1213
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: reward sort of an approach. That's kind of how I

1214
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: would see this game playing out. Marcel Reid could give

1215
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: you a performance that makes me look and say, had

1216
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 1: I gotten more of that down the stretch, my Heisman

1217
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: ticket would have cashed. That could happen. Or Miami could

1218
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: get out gained by thirty yards but be plus three

1219
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: in turnovers and walk out of there having stolen a win.

1220
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: That could be one of two ways that this goes.

1221
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: But what I love is as far as their playoff

1222
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: hopes go, Texas A and M is in a shockingly

1223
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: similar position as Ohio State was last year, to lesser

1224
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: attention because Ohio State lost against Michigan is a three

1225
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: touchdown favorite, whereas A and M lost to Texas and

1226
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: that was expected to be a close game. And also

1227
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: that game happened on a Friday of rivalry week, so

1228
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: it happened, and then it was kind of out of

1229
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: people's main focus of attention, but it happened. So in

1230
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: that building, that's all that's mattered. And they lost that game,

1231
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: and they knew they were still going to host a

1232
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: playoff game. You will have had three weeks of rest

1233
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: by the time this game kicks off. They're going to

1234
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: put pressure on Carson Beck. Miami has not been a

1235
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: very good road team now these last few weeks Notwithstanding,

1236
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: Mario could listened to this show and hit us up

1237
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: right now and say, did you see the Pit game. Yes,

1238
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: that's why I said the last few weeks, notwithstanding, because

1239
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: I also saw the SMU game. So we do have

1240
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: to remember the entire sample size here, and they're going

1241
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: to go into by far, the most hostile environment they

1242
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: will have played in all year. Some of those kids

1243
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: have never played in an vironment like this, and they

1244
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: will face Jesse I think the best pass rush that

1245
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: they will have seen all year. So that's Carson Beck

1246
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: under pressure, and that is you know, that's a situation

1247
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: where he's had his ups and downs this year. But

1248
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: think about that not only from Miami's hopes of winning

1249
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: the game, but from an NFL perspective. I mean, if

1250
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: you're a scout and you're kind of wondering what do

1251
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: I make of Carson Beck, buddy, just tune into this game.

1252
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: But yards per carry I think will be huge here.

1253
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to make it padlock stat time right

1254
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: now because we've got twelve days or so until this game,

1255
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: but it's going to be at yards per carry stat

1256
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: that's going to be pretty glaring. But again, we just

1257
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: talked about the Oklahoma Alabama game. Think about this game,

1258
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: just picture it for a second. Kyle Field early kickoff,

1259
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: early kickoff, but Kyle Field hosting a playoff game. It's

1260
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: all I've ever wanted for Billy Lucci, It's all I've

1261
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: ever won. There's a rumor floating around by the way

1262
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: that Luci invited me to his wedding, Like, where did

1263
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: that come from? On what Texas message board was that born?

1264
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. Now. There was a wedding that involved

1265
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: one of the two of us, and one of the

1266
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: two of us was invited, but I think they got

1267
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: the story a little backwards. It pays to scour the internet.

1268
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: You know what else pays paystatemterial dot com because that's

1269
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: where you can go and grab yourself a tis the

1270
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: Season to be Chuggy sweater. I saw so many of

1271
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: these floating around the lobby the other night. I have

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Speaker 1: Now we have to get uncomfortable. Now we have to

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Speaker 1: broach the subject everyone's talking about. Yeah, yeah, So we

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Speaker 1: have two G five teams in the playoff Tulane, Ole Miss,

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Speaker 1: Jmu Oregon. We do, regrettably have the point spreads for

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Speaker 1: these games courtesy of FanDuel Sportsbook. Tulane is a seventeen

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Speaker 1: and a half point dog against Old Miss, and you

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Speaker 1: may be thinking to yourself, didn't I already see that game? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Ole Miss beat them by thirty five the first time around.

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Speaker 1: Next Lee Jmu at Oregon Oregon a casual twenty one

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Speaker 1: and a half point favorite in a playoff game. So

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Speaker 1: people have some really really strong thoughts on this. I've

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01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: had strong thoughts on this for a while. I've told

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Speaker 1: you for a while it makes no sense that college

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01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 1: football structured the way it is for many reasons, but

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01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: it makes no sense that college football pretends like one

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01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty six teams are playing the same sport.

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01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: It's so obvious they're not. And so I've gotten two

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01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: bits of pushback on that. One bit of criticism is,

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01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: why do you want to hold down smaller teams? Why

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01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: do you want to choke off the one chance they

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01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: have to compete? I don't I'll get to that in

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Speaker 1: a second. And then the other one is, well, if

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Speaker 1: they don't get that opportunity, then you're financially cutting them

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Speaker 1: off and they die on the vine. I don't want that.

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Speaker 1: You got to get some smart people in the room

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Speaker 1: to understand we can restructure the playoff. We can rebuild

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01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: the playoff actually entirely where you don't have G five

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01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: inclusion in the main playoff and still have a very

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Speaker 1: very nice, revenue producing product that is exclusively G five.

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Speaker 1: You know a world where JMU could actually win the

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01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: title or Tu Lane could actually win the title. Now

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Speaker 1: everybody logically watching this or listening to this knows O

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01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: Organ's not playing the same sport as JMU. Everybody knows

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01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: Ole Miss is not playing the same sport as Too Late.

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01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that, but for some reason we're still forced

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01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: to pretend they are when it comes playoff time. So

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Speaker 1: you can say what I just said without having disdain

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01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: or hate in your heart for the G five I

1325
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 1: feel the total opposite. I love G five football. I'd

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01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 1: like to build a world. I'd like to build an

1327
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 1: ecosystem where it thrives, not cutting it out of this

1328
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: system to watch it die. That's not how that has

1329
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: to happen. But the mental gymnastics that proponents of G

1330
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: five inclusion put themselves through are so mind numbing that

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01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: I just removed myself from the conversation because the way

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01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: I look at it is no G five teams is

1333
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 1: ever gonna win this national championship. Certainly they're not so like.

1334
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: It's never like they're gonna make a run in the playoff.

1335
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,839
Speaker 1: The worst that happens is it takes away and robs

1336
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: us of what would be far more premiere first round

1337
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: playoff games, and then JMU and Tulane will get disposed

1338
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: of in the first round because they're far inferior teams,

1339
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 1: and then we'll move on about the playoffs. So it's

1340
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: not like I'm gonna get burned. There is no Boise,

1341
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: Oklahoma two thousand and seven coming to rescue you on

1342
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: this argument. So the argument you're making is a very

1343
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: bad faith argument. If you're making this one, well you

1344
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: know upsets have happened before. That's not even it's so

1345
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: far away from the point that it doesn't even deserve

1346
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: a reply. But here's the reply. I don't care if

1347
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,959
Speaker 1: JMU goes and beats Oregon. It doesn't disprove my point.

1348
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 1: My point is they don't deserve inclusion in this format

1349
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: because anybody I could take Auburn and have them play

1350
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: jmu's schedule, and they're probably an eleven and one team

1351
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: are possibly undefeated Auburn Auburn. You look at some of

1352
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: the advanced metrics, they would tell you Auburn's about the

1353
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 1: twenty sixth to thirtieth best team in the country right now.

1354
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 1: They're probably be favored top to bottom against jmu's schedule.

1355
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: The point there is we're not playing the same sport,

1356
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: We're not looking at the same sport. So the one

1357
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: bad faith argument is someone will cherry pick this one

1358
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 1: example of an upset happening, and though say, see, you

1359
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 1: can't say that wouldn't happen. My point is not even

1360
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: that it's impossible for them to pull the upset if

1361
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 1: they get in the playoff. My point is they shouldn't

1362
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,719
Speaker 1: be in the playoff to begin with because the road

1363
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 1: that they took looks way different than the road these

1364
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: other teams have to take. That's part one. Part two

1365
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,759
Speaker 1: is with all this money floating around right now, people

1366
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: are insane if they don't think a G five playoff

1367
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 1: would sell and sell big. Do you understand how desperate

1368
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 1: other networks are for quality postseason college football inventory. I

1369
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 1: used to work at one up until very recently. That

1370
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: is void of it entirely. You don't think that if

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01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 1: we took a package of G five playoff games and

1372
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: put them on any network that it wouldn't sell. Of

1373
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: course it would. There are going to be a lot

1374
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: of proposals coming up about the entire world of like

1375
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 1: the way that since the Score Act died in Congress

1376
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: the way that we can move forward, and you hear

1377
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 1: all kinds of pitches about private equity and people just

1378
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 1: looking to invest in college football. Invest in a G

1379
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: five playoff, everybody wins. I'm not trying to box you out,

1380
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 1: by the way, because I would love a world where

1381
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 1: promotion and relegation existed. What that looks like is I

1382
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: don't want to pick any one individual program, But if

1383
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: you're a program that just continues to suck year in

1384
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: and year out, and you keep beating your chest, go

1385
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 1: hey man, we're still in the big ten of the

1386
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Speaker 1: SEC no matter what, Well, maybe you shouldn't automatically be

1387
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Speaker 1: Maybe if you're that bad for that long, maybe you

1388
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Speaker 1: ought to drop down in too lane, ought to jump up.

1389
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: I would have a problem with that. A little advancement

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Speaker 1: and escape hatch built on that system. But to sit

1391
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Speaker 1: here and pretend, like one hundred and thirty sixteen to

1392
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: play the same sport so stupid. So the money's there

1393
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Speaker 1: to figure this out, because really, what the argument always

1394
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: boils down to is a fundamental argument. No one really

1395
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 1: looks at JMU and Tulane in the playoff and thinks

1396
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 1: to themselves, yep, purely from a competitive standpoint, this makes

1397
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: sense to me. You don't think that. If you're a

1398
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: JMU fan, I got one on our staff. He looks

1399
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Speaker 1: Totally fine. I say the same thing if I were

1401
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Speaker 1: you Press, or if you're a Tu Lane fan, or

1402
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Speaker 1: if you're a fan of any team that competes for

1403
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: this thing, you want to make it because you want

1404
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Speaker 1: to make it. I'm talking about removing that lens and

1405
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: looking at it purely from a logic based competitive standpoint.

1406
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Speaker 1: No one looks at this and thinks it makes sense,

1407
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Speaker 1: So the argument doesn't come to that. The argument comes

1408
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Speaker 1: to if we're not involved in the college football playoff,

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01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 1: State Nitney Lyons have hired a head coach, and hoops

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01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: to amongst us, could ever have seen it coming. But

1482
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: Matt Campbell is the new head coach at Penn State.

1483
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 1: I have to be an incredibly big man right now.

1484
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 1: And for those of you who are listening, I have

1485
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: my eyes closed because this is where I get myself

1486
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: in a safe mental space where I don't say the

1487
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 1: words I told you so, because the last thing we

1488
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 1: want to do on this show, the last thing we

1489
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 1: want to do is beat people over the head when

1490
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 1: I told you so. But I'll tell you what I

1491
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 1: felt like I just watched. I feel like I just

1492
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 1: watched Penn State go all the way around the world

1493
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 1: to find treasure in their backyard. This should have been

1494
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: the first call they made. They weren't getting Freeman, they

1495
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:29,919
Speaker 1: weren't getting Debor, none of those grand Slam like unicorn

1496
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 1: candidates were going to be available. That should have always

1497
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: been evident. Mike Elko, they were not close on him.

1498
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: I am just telling you from firsthand knowledge that was

1499
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 1: not happening. But Matt Campbell could have happened, and you

1500
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: could have saved yourself potentially a recruiting class, and you

1501
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 1: could have saved yourself a lot of heart ache. Anyway,

1502
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 1: Matt Campbell finally happened. There are two perspectives on this,

1503
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 1: and they're just fascinating because I have banged the drum

1504
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 1: for Matt Campbell on this show as the best candidate

1505
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 1: for Penn State since they fired James Franklin. The first

1506
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 1: night after they fired Franklin, we came on the air

1507
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: and I said, Matt Campbell ought to be the one

1508
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 1: you target. So that's why I'm speaking the way I'm speaking.

1509
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: Football people will universally praise Matt Campbell. You will never

1510
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: find a football guy who speaks ill of him. They

1511
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 1: all universally respect him. The NFL heavily respects him. He

1512
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 1: has turned down NFL head coaching jobs in the last

1513
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 1: five years, so they think sky high of him. His

1514
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: peers think the world of him. Nobody who pushed back

1515
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 1: on the concept of Matt Campbell getting the Penn State

1516
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 1: job ever gave me football related reasoning, or if they did,

1517
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 1: it was very ignorant and it was short sighted, and

1518
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,719
Speaker 1: it was like, well, he hasn't even won the Big Twelve.

1519
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 1: In college football, it is not the NFL. You don't

1520
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: all work on the same platform. In the NFL, everyone

1521
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 1: plays by the same rules, everyone's allowed the same draft picks,

1522
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: everyone's working on a salary cap. None of that exists

1523
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: in college football. So if you're the head coach at

1524
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 1: Texas and you're the head coach at Iowa State, you

1525
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: live in two different worlds. You have two totally different existences.

1526
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 1: So Matt Campbell, in the one hundred and thirty some

1527
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: odd year history of Iowa State is in the midst

1528
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: right now of the best three year stretch they've ever had.

1529
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 1: They just won eight games. You win eight games at

1530
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: Florida and they don't like it. You win eight games

1531
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 1: at Alabama, that's costs for concern. You win eight games

1532
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 1: at Iowa State. It's one of the best seasons they've

1533
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,839
Speaker 1: ever had. And he just did that on the heels

1534
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 1: of going to the Big Ten or Big twelve championship

1535
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: game last year. So people who said, oh man, he

1536
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 1: hadn't won big games, you have no clue what you're

1537
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:40,600
Speaker 1: talking about. Relative to expectation and relative to resource, he

1538
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: crushed it at Iowa State. So no one brought any

1539
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 1: football related counter arguments to the table, because there really

1540
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: are none. Here's what a lot of people said. They

1541
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 1: didn't trust their own instinct. They blindly trusted rumors or

1542
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: perceptions of other instincts when they said, well, if he's

1543
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: so great, Matt Campbell's so great, how come he hadn't

1544
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 1: gotten job offers before? And I bit my tongue as

1545
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,919
Speaker 1: long as I could, and then I couldn't take it anymore.

1546
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: And I told you on the show a couple of

1547
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: weeks ago. They have they've come his way. Tennessee came

1548
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,600
Speaker 1: his way, Florida State came his way, The Detroit Lions

1549
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 1: came his way. USC was at the eleventh hour a

1550
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 1: few years ago. A lot of jobs came his way.

1551
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 1: That's not an exhaustive list, by the way. Those are

1552
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: just some that have sort of quasi leaked out there.

1553
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 1: And I'm comfortable talking about he didn't leave because he

1554
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,600
Speaker 1: didn't want to leave. And you may think to yourself,

1555
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Iowa State. Oh, you get on the first

1556
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 1: thing smoking out of Iowa State. Well, maybe if you

1557
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 1: were the head coach there, you would, but he's not

1558
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: like everyone else. So we went up there last spring

1559
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: because I kind of wanted him to talk on the

1560
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 1: record about this, and he did, and I think you'll

1561
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: be fascinated to listen to this. This is a little

1562
01:20:56,360 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: glimpse into why Matt Campbell didn't just move at the

1563
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 1: first opportunity roll at Bradley. Short of like internet rumors,

1564
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: there's never been really serious traction to you not being here.

1565
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 1: So could you walk people through as much as you

1566
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 1: can the thought process you have when you have opportunity.

1567
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 3: You know, I've been that guy where it's like, geez,

1568
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 3: should I be climbing this this ladder of job the

1569
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 3: job at a really young age two, you know, when

1570
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 3: we got to Iowa State and have been able to

1571
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,600
Speaker 3: build something different, and I know, you know, for me,

1572
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 3: leaving the University of Toledo was really hard, to be

1573
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 3: quite honest, you know, from Ohio.

1574
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: My wife and I had never.

1575
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 3: Left Ohio at that time with three kids with a

1576
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 3: fourth on the way, we had grandparents and family that

1577
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 3: were you know, anchors to us, and it was really

1578
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 3: hard to leave. And you know, that was the first

1579
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 3: time I said, geez, I don't know if this is

1580
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 3: what I want to do. I want to be able

1581
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 3: to lay roots and build something different in something that's

1582
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 3: really special, that can stand for something. And you know,

1583
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 3: I think that's the one gratitude that I have for

1584
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 3: being the head coach. I walk in here every day

1585
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 3: and I'm just be ungrateful to be the head football

1586
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 3: coach at Iowa State, and you know, we've been able

1587
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 3: to build a program and build a program that I

1588
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 3: really believe stands for something.

1589
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 1: Savannah State heavily critical of my sitting posture there. It

1590
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 1: is what it is. I know no other way. Let

1591
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 1: me tell you why I think he's a perfect fit there.

1592
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 1: He's dead serious about that Toledo stuff. Matt Campbell came

1593
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 1: very closely just not leaving Toledo for Iowa State. Okay,

1594
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 1: that's how dug in. He was at Toledo and then

1595
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 1: he got to Iowa State and thought to himself, I'm

1596
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 1: not leaving here. A lot of guys talk like that

1597
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 1: and give it lip service. I don't know how else

1598
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 1: to tell you, he's just telling you the truth. Other

1599
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 1: people are lying to you. He's telling you the truth there.

1600
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 1: And so it took a lot. It took a lot

1601
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:45,719
Speaker 1: to peel him out of there. Penn State was able

1602
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 1: to do it. So the first thing that I would

1603
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,560
Speaker 1: take comfort in if I'm a Penn State is or

1604
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: if I'm a Penn State fan, one of the first

1605
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 1: things I would take comfort in is knowing that guy's

1606
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. It was so hard to get him

1607
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 1: out of there, that he's ours. The only risk you

1608
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: would run is do NFL teams come calling? Like That's

1609
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 1: all I would worry about. He's one of the best

1610
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 1: culture builders in college football. Anyone who's been around it,

1611
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: anyone who's played against it, will attest to it. He's

1612
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 1: got sort of a magnetic quality, and his programs take

1613
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:18,879
Speaker 1: on this magnetic quality, which is really important because, contrary

1614
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 1: to popular belief, this thing's still about relationship building. I

1615
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: was talking to Courtney Morgan at Alabama last night, and

1616
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: I was talking about like philosophy and recruiting and about

1617
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 1: the misnomer that, oh, it's just about paying the most

1618
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 1: for players now, and all the good general managers or

1619
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 1: all the head coaches will laugh at that. It's not

1620
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: about that. It's true that you could go overspend and

1621
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 1: just go as symbol a bunch of talent if you

1622
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 1: didn't build the relationship. Firstly, you probably had to overpay

1623
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: to get the talent if you didn't build a relationship,

1624
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 1: and then secondly, they're not going to go over the

1625
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: cliff for you. There were a few very glaring examples,

1626
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: by the way late in the season of teams that had,

1627
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:00,799
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, higher bunch of players

1628
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 1: and the players quit on them. So what all the

1629
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 1: talent matter to you? That is not a characteristic of

1630
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 1: a Matt Campbell organization. Not only that, but because of

1631
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:14,759
Speaker 1: the magnetic nature of the program, you'll find that guys

1632
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,719
Speaker 1: take a discount to play for you, and guys will

1633
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 1: accept in some cases less to stay with you. I

1634
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 1: can promise you that was the case with him at

1635
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 1: Iowa State. Now he goes to a place where you'll

1636
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 1: still have all of those qualities. They will place a

1637
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 1: premium on evaluation and development. He's bringing his general manager,

1638
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,679
Speaker 1: Derrek Hooder with him, one of the best in the business,

1639
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 1: so they'll still be good. They'll still be plus to

1640
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 1: a plus in all those categories. Now they've got big

1641
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 1: money to spend. Penn State will equip them to where

1642
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 1: they can be very competitive in the NIO market, and

1643
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 1: so you can attract a wider net, you can cast

1644
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 1: a wider net, and you can catch bigger fish in

1645
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 1: that net. They're still going to run him through the

1646
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 1: same filter that they would have run them through at

1647
01:24:57,720 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 1: Iowa State, or they're not going to play at Penn State.

1648
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 1: Is grinder, very blue collar mentality. It's why I always

1649
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 1: felt like his personality would be a puzzle piece fit

1650
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 1: at like three or four big programs, and this is

1651
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 1: one of them. So he won't have to get up

1652
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: there and pretend he has it. You know, like you

1653
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 1: guys at Penn State. You know what fits at Penn State.

1654
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 1: Some people have to pretend that they fit at Penn State.

1655
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 1: He won't have to pretend. I didn't want to address

1656
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 1: this though. Okay, so I'm a big Iowa State fan.

1657
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 1: People think I'm lying about that, but I'm not. So

1658
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Matt Campbell fan too. Truthfully, I probably

1659
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 1: become bigger fans of coaches than programs. But I am

1660
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 1: a big Iowa State fan, have been since I was

1661
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 1: a kid. So I got a lot of heat for

1662
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 1: how I handled this. All right, So I do want

1663
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 1: to address that because I do acknowledge this probably a

1664
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 1: really bad look because it looked like I was trying

1665
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: to convince the market to remove Iowa State's head coach.

1666
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 1: It wasn't that, but I grant that. If you thought

1667
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 1: it felt that way, my bad, because that's the last

1668
01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 1: thing I want to do to Iowa State. What I

1669
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 1: felt is there was a guy at Iowa State and

1670
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 1: had been for a while, that was fully capable of

1671
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 1: taking over a top ten, top fifteen job and winning.

1672
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 1: And I thought Matt Campbell was that, and I just

1673
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 1: maybe it's selfish. I wanted to see him take a shot.

1674
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: Having said that, the very next thing that happened was

1675
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 1: this broke. This news broke as I was live on

1676
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 1: stage the other night doing our live show, so I

1677
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:27,640
Speaker 1: was kind of having fun with the live crowd, and

1678
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: I put that edit out of me and him walking

1679
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,719
Speaker 1: down a hallway and he's got a Penn State logo

1680
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: on his chest bad optics. Sorry about that. I grant

1681
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,679
Speaker 1: you that. So took some heat for that. It was deserved.

1682
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: That's the last thing I want to do. So now

1683
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: pull for Matt Campbell at Penn State. We're going to

1684
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,520
Speaker 1: go up there tomorrow. We'll be there for the introductory

1685
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 1: press conference. Just someone tell Sean fitz to get our

1686
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: room ready. Now we regroup, and now we get behind

1687
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 1: the new staff at Iowa State. And by the way,

1688
01:26:55,600 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: Jamie Poller's the ad there just textbook clinic put on

1689
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 1: in how to be classy when what was probably an

1690
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 1: inevitability finally happens. Maybe they didn't feel like it was

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01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 1: in inevitability. But when you're Iowa State and you got

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Speaker 1: big programs that continuously come calling for your guy, eventually

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01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 1: he may leave. He was there a decade and so

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01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 1: when he leaves, what do you do. Do you trash

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Speaker 1: him on his way out the door? Do you put

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Speaker 1: on this entire spectacle like we saw with Lane Kiffin

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Speaker 1: at Ole Miss No, you thank him and then you

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Speaker 1: have the next hire ready to go and boom it's done.

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01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 1: So yes, yes, I could have handled that optics wise

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Speaker 1: a lot better from the Iowa State side. So I

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Speaker 1: do want to acknowledge that, because it's not like I

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Speaker 1: was just faking like an Iowa State. I'll be right

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Speaker 1: back there in the foxhole next year. I will just

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Speaker 1: also pull for Matt Campbell at Penn State. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: our show. It was a loaded show. Today, We've got

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Speaker 1: a lot to chew on. We're right smack gab in

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Speaker 1: the middle of playoff season. Now, appreciate you guys so much.

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