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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three

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Speaker 1: six five. We are part of the Action Network. Today

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Speaker 1: is our week fourteen Tuesday NFL episode. I am Chadmill,

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Speaker 1: the Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. We are

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Speaker 1: coming off of a miracle two and three week in

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Speaker 1: the contest. We are underdog players, and these underdogs have

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Speaker 1: not been doing well the past few weeks. We're going

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Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about that. A lot of

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Speaker 1: show on Sunday, they have already moved, which is why

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Speaker 1: you need to listen to the Sunday show if you

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Speaker 1: want to get the best of the number. On today's show,

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Speaker 1: we will get to our Simon says in our exec decision.

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Speaker 1: On Thursday, we will finalize our big Balls bet of

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Speaker 1: the Week, our Foxhoul, our Survivor, our moneyline parlay, and

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Speaker 1: don't forget this episode, we'll look at the entire board

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Speaker 1: as we begin narrowing down the five picks we'll enter

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Speaker 1: in the Favorites Podcast. One hundred thousand dollars Pro Football

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Speaker 1: We know what our favorite coach, Mike Tomlin would say

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Speaker 1: about that.

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Speaker 2: We will not go gently. We're gonna unleash hell here

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Speaker 2: in December. We're gonna go in a tag mode because

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Speaker 2: we have to, because that's what's required.

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Speaker 1: Now, let's bring in my co host, my bff, my companion,

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Speaker 1: Mike and Padre professional Better Simon Hunter Heados Simon Simon,

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Speaker 1: we're coming off our first ever live show, literally hundreds

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Speaker 1: of our friends capacity crowd, not just for the show,

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Speaker 1: but for four hours of watching, hanging, meeting, greeting, chatting

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Speaker 1: at the Shepherd and the Knucklehead in Hoboken, New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: We want to thank Joe and his crew at the

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Speaker 1: bar who helped our entire team at the Action Network

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Speaker 1: pull off a great watch party for fans. We had trivia,

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Speaker 1: we had swag, we had free drinks. Oh and by then,

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Speaker 1: by the way, we executed a live broadcast. Really overwhelming, Simon,

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Speaker 1: to get to connect with so many folks who have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely changed my view on a lot of things

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Speaker 2: about their show. And pretty crazy chat. Not much you

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Speaker 2: can say, but yeah, the group that we met with

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Speaker 2: that or Sunday night. Were very funny, very happy to

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Speaker 2: see us, and it was just really good vibes. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: like the open bar and watching the games with everyone

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Speaker 2: was just a great time. Like drinking with people, laughing

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Speaker 2: with people, talking about the games and all of it.

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Speaker 2: It was just great. So it was calling them. It's

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Speaker 2: kind of all a blur, right, Chad. Just you're just

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Speaker 2: meeting so many people, But I can't say a bad

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, your response has been really really

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Speaker 1: interesting because you know, we've done this podcast for a

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Speaker 1: few years, but it really started for you and I

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Speaker 1: during the pandemic and we haven't had a chance other

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Speaker 1: this would with all humility. I've just been doing the

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Speaker 1: pod longer than you. We've had events. I've been to

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Speaker 1: to all this has been fascinating. It's been and I

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Speaker 1: know we were in the office together on Monday, really

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Speaker 1: cool to see. I feel like that was it was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just interesting people to give up their Sundays

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Speaker 2: to come up. And again, we didn't know it was

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Speaker 2: It's literally free drinks and really good food. I mean

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Speaker 2: I think you're the same feeling in the chat when

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Speaker 1: and the tiebreaker is total passing yards on Monday night football.

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Speaker 1: Good luck. Everybody has some futures updates. Tyreek Hill, we

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you talk about quarterbacks and the

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Speaker 1: because the Pats are on a no bet list lowest

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Speaker 1: it's down to thirty and a half. About it, Mitch

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Speaker 1: Trubisky against god knows who. Biggest luck rankings game of

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Speaker 1: the week, Week thirteen or later unlucky road teams in

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Speaker 1: a massive luck gap in this game. Pittsburgh the number

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Speaker 1: according to our rankings. I mean, we don't want to

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But when we already talked about we've never seen

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Speaker 2: anything like this that there. It's three weeks now. In

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Speaker 2: three weeks, they've given up a total of twenty six

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Speaker 2: So they go up ten points and they lost that game.

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Speaker 2: They give up ten points, lost the game. And they

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Speaker 2: I kept saying all the time, Chad, people are gonna

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Speaker 2: blame Bill. Bill is gonna be one of the best

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Speaker 2: defensive minds in all football. Forever. The guy is so

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Speaker 2: incredible at what he does. He lost his two best

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Speaker 2: defenders and this defense is still doing this here in

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Speaker 2: late this like into December again. Villagers will always get heat,

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Speaker 2: and I get where their fans come from, but it's

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Speaker 2: And what they have failed at is they have not

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Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, it's by the way Thursday. I guarantee this

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Speaker 1: be in the final five Bucks in Atlanta. Bucks are

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Speaker 2: I want to be on dample. But Chad, you're right

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Speaker 2: They're the ones that are sucking up. They've been hanging

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Speaker 1: Falcons podcast. The O'Neil brothers know it all right. So

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Speaker 1: I'm outside the Shepherd and Knucklehead, a beautiful Hoboken, New

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Speaker 1: Jersey with three VIPs who flew all the way here.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to have them and introduce themselves.

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Speaker 3: Chris O'Neill, Shane Daddy Tall Stacks O'Neill, Brendan James.

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Speaker 2: Where are you boys? From Burlington, Mass Boston? Baby? Is

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Speaker 2: it nice there?

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Speaker 3: It's too expensive, but we ham of you over tonight.

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Speaker 2: These guys the moment heaters like the fucking world's ended.

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Speaker 2: It's like you're smoking behind a dumpster at a high school.

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Speaker 1: That's how you know there are real VIPs of this show.

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Speaker 2: We have fun. Do you have a special message for

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Speaker 2: Chad and Sevens for their picks this week?

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Speaker 3: I want to say hello to Mike Weiss, my buddy

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Speaker 3: that worked that listens to this and Chad and I'm

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs tonight don't matter. I want we take it

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Speaker 1: What happens if Chad's ivan can't start picking the winners, We're.

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Speaker 3: Gonna start listen to calling Gallway with Is this see

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Speaker 3: of money?

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Speaker 1: How damn all right? One of the games we talked

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Speaker 1: about on Sunday Detroit at Chicago. At the time it

430
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Speaker 1: was five, I said I liked Chicago at five. Of course,

431
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 1: I was in the middle of recording the podcast. I

432
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 1: couldn't bet it. By the time we got off the

433
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Speaker 1: show it was four. I still forgot to bet it

434
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Speaker 1: until Monday morning. When is it three and a half? Uh? Chad?

435
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Speaker 3: Is it?

436
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Speaker 1: Chad? Chad? Chad is a sharp Milman. That's what we

437
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 1: say about this because Milman was all over it. But

438
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Speaker 1: now it's at three and in three I don't know, man,

439
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 1: I feel like we've lost all the value. If we

440
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Speaker 1: were getting the three and a half, it was still

441
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Speaker 1: the hook. But that rush defense is improving for the Bears.

442
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 1: It's kind of a justin field statement game. If there

443
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Speaker 1: is one, I feel like the Bears should just move

444
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Speaker 1: off them. But the Troy's not looking right. We talked

445
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Speaker 1: about this on Sunday. Something's off there.

446
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say the real reason though those numbers

447
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 2: moved is I was giving shatt at s Flowers this

448
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 2: today and I kind of found out why this number

449
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 2: has moved. It's supposed to be like a tsunami in

450
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Speaker 2: Chicago for this game, Like it's supposed to be a

451
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Speaker 2: really bad wind and rain. So to me, I don't

452
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Speaker 2: know if i'd bet as much as guys clearly have

453
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Speaker 2: bet this number to move it this much because of that.

454
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Speaker 2: But obviously, if that's true, the advantage is massive to

455
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Speaker 2: this Bears team. Like Evan just posted eighty permra wins

456
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Speaker 2: or predicted right out for this football game. So you

457
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Speaker 2: have a team in Bears that I mean, is there

458
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Speaker 2: a better team to run an RPO with? Like if

459
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Speaker 2: my can run the ball in that weather, we I mean,

460
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Speaker 2: I remember the scenario last year we won big and

461
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Speaker 2: this exact spot back in the team and the Bears

462
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Speaker 2: against the forty nine ers and the forty as were

463
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Speaker 2: a pretty big favorite and it was a tsunami and

464
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Speaker 2: the Bears played really well in it, like they were

465
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Speaker 2: good in that weather because they want to run the

466
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Speaker 2: ball like that. And yeah, on the other side, you know, Detroit,

467
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 2: they're better indoors. That's that's the knock on golf, right,

468
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Speaker 2: That's why they needed to win and get that one

469
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Speaker 2: seat because they need to be indoors. They can't be

470
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Speaker 2: going to play at the forty nine ers at Philadelphia

471
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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, like they need that indoors. So I'm

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Speaker 2: still with Chad, Like, if you can get the three

473
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Speaker 2: and a half, there's a couple of books still holding

474
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Speaker 2: at the three and a half, I'd grab it. If

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Speaker 2: you're one of those people you just want to wait,

476
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Speaker 2: go for it. I wouldn't let the three scare me off.

477
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Speaker 2: But why wouldn't you want to grab the hook now?

478
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Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna make it time it says, because

479
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: this is Chad's better, I'm not going to steal it.

480
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Speaker 2: But if you want to make it your exec chat,

481
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Speaker 2: I support it.

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Speaker 3: Man.

483
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Speaker 2: I like the Bears in the spot.

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Speaker 1: Fuck it, let's go Bears. Make it the exact decision.

485
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Speaker 1: The choice between the unthinkable and the impossible.

486
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Speaker 2: Are your waters, that's the executive decision.

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Speaker 1: I'll take the Bears plus three. It's a good spot

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Speaker 1: for them. Look, they beat the Vikings, they were four

489
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Speaker 1: minutes away from beating the Lions. They had some typical

490
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Speaker 1: Bears moments. I don't think the lines are the same

491
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Speaker 1: team they were three weeks ago. I don't think the

492
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Speaker 1: Bears are the same team they were three weeks ago.

493
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Speaker 1: This defense has only gotten better if there's gonna be

494
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Speaker 1: wind and rain in place of their place of their advantage.

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Speaker 1: Give me the Bears. By the way, let's take the

496
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Speaker 1: under forty and a half while we're at it, because

497
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Speaker 1: that line's going to move down to Yeah, Jacksonville at Cleveland. Look,

498
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Speaker 1: this is this is one of the biggest most dramatic

499
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Speaker 1: changes on the board.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: The Jags before last night were three point favorites. Now

502
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Speaker 1: since the Trevor Lawrence injury, they're at minus two. Joe

503
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Speaker 1: Flacco battered. Flacco is now on the practice squad. Kevin

504
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Speaker 1: Stefanski said he has no idea who the QB will

505
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Speaker 1: be this is a pass. I don't even know why

506
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Speaker 1: we're talking about this game.

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Speaker 2: Damn jah No, this is not Last week was the

508
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Speaker 2: time of back Cleveland. This week was the time to

509
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Speaker 2: back Cleveland. I got lucky. We talked Sunday night, and

510
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Speaker 2: I took this just because it was plus three for Cleveland.

511
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 2: I didn't know why it was so low, Like Chad

512
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: just said it. They didn't on Sunday. They don't know

513
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Speaker 2: who their QB was going to be. And the book

514
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: was still hanging up plus three on Cleveland before the

515
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Speaker 2: Jags even played so classic I'm an idiot and I

516
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 2: bet a dumb number and it worked out for me.

517
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Speaker 2: Was like, I was just like, this number doesn't makes sense.

518
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: I gotta bet it, and Trevor Lawrence got hurt. Now

519
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 2: it's moved six points. If you took it, you're living

520
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: the dream. You can hit an easy middle here. I've

521
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Speaker 2: already seen a couple of books show three. I'm with you.

522
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Speaker 2: It's like, I want to take Cleveland here, but not

523
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Speaker 2: a two and a half. I'd feel comfortable taking them,

524
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Speaker 2: but a three three and a half that's really hard

525
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Speaker 2: for me to get there. But I love Cleveland's defense

526
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Speaker 2: at home. I keep talking about the difference of them

527
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Speaker 2: on the road. You can go look right now at

528
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Speaker 2: the splits what their defense is at home and what

529
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Speaker 2: they are on the road. It's totally different. They're just

530
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Speaker 2: so much better at home. Now we're getting them at

531
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Speaker 2: home against a backup quarterback for the Jaguars. I love it.

532
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Speaker 2: And Jaguars on a short week traveling. Yeah, like two

533
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Speaker 2: and a half. If it stays there, I'm gonna make

534
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Speaker 2: Chad Forces one. It's like it's it's gross, But I

535
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: don't care who the quarterback is for Cleveland. I would

536
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Speaker 2: take him in that spot. You're basically back in the

537
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 2: defense there in such a good spot. I can't avoid it. Well, look, I.

538
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: Wrote it down, so we'll revisit it on Thursday. What

539
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Speaker 1: I wrote it, I.

540
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 2: Got while you were like, I don't want to touch this, but.

541
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Speaker 1: I wrote it down to two two and a half,

542
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens with three.

543
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The next game, Indy at Cincy, playing off the Monday

545
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Speaker 1: night football game last night, All of a sudden, Browning,

546
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: the quarterback for Cincinnati was pinpoint accurate, completing eighty six

547
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 1: percent of his passes. The line has moved one and

548
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: a half points in the Bengals direction. Off of the

549
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: Monday night game. It was sincey plus two and a half.

550
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Speaker 1: I haven't had too much time at this point based

551
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: on last night game to dig in. It kind of

552
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Speaker 1: felt like I'm not going to bet on Cincy because

553
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm betting the the the bounce off the money

554
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: in that game and I'm not getting any value in

555
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: the number anymore.

556
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: I wouldn't hate grabbing. I'm not gonna make a sense, says,

557
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: but if you if you do, like since I would

558
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 2: grab it out because I could see this move to

559
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 2: them to be a favorite once more. People watch the

560
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: film on this kid and break it down, like he

561
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 2: was fearless in that game, Like he really was so confident,

562
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 2: fearless in the pocket throwing the ball, and yeah, I

563
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 2: could not believe what I was watching. Like if you

564
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: watch this tape compared to Pittsburgh tape, it's totally night

565
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: and day. Like clearly he's comfortable whatever happened after getting

566
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: his first start, he's not scared and that's the key

567
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: to being being a quarterback, Like you can't play scared,

568
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: and he did not play scared, So yeah, I'm with you,

569
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: Like I didn't know really what to do with it

570
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: because I kind of wanted back the Colts here, but

571
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: just because of what you had to said, like that

572
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: was such a high emotional win. Then win as a

573
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: ten point underdog against the Jaguars. But I think there

574
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: even a unlucky in that game, right, They had the

575
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: miss field goal, They just had a couple of things

576
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: that weren't really breaking their way. So I'm not going

577
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: to overreact to it. Yeah, I like, honestly, I like

578
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: the Bangals here, like just matchup wise against the Colts.

579
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what the guy's luck rankings, but it

580
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: feels like the Colts have been crazy lucky on this

581
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: little wind streak throw on right now, right, They've had

582
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: a lot of things bounce their way if you look

583
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Speaker 2: it up all their matchups. So, uh yeah, I'm seeing

584
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: one book still Bangals plus one and a half, So

585
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Speaker 2: I'll grab that. I'll throw in a teaser, just like

586
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 2: last week, it was like a brutal loss we lost

587
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: on Tennessee at plus one and a half against the Colts,

588
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,479
Speaker 2: and it's kind of same spot. But obviously all your

589
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: teasers came through, so those are such sickening ones where

590
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: it's like, man, we were on the right side, but

591
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: it just did not get there.

592
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. But look with the Colts speaking of lucky two

593
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: block punts and knock the punter out of the game,

594
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: and so that had a huge impact on the outcome

595
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: of that game in which they were basically getting dominated.

596
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Speaker 2: And I missed extra point.

597
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think miss belong to the mixture. The

598
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: point is because the polder was the punter.

599
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, yeah, the punter. Yeah. Crazy.

600
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: So we got screwed six ways from Sunday on that one.

601
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Speaker 1: This was the other game that was going to be

602
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: my executive decision, Los Angeles Rams at Baltimore Ravens. Ravens

603
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: are seven point favorites right now. You call this one

604
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Speaker 1: on Sunny and at the show you said this looks

605
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: like a funky line to me. The Ravens is favorites

606
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: at home, not especially great under Lamar or HARBAUGHV. I

607
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: don't see the stats in here for for either one

608
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: of those, but if you want to update it in

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Speaker 1: the chat, huge pros Joe's game. Right now, we're showing

610
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Speaker 1: tickets on Baltimore. Money on the Rams. Open it seven

611
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Speaker 1: and a half down to seven.

612
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just felt like too big of a number.

613
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: I do hope it says seven after because I feel

614
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: a lot better taking on the contest. Obviously that would

615
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: the six and a half, or worst case, it gets

616
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: down a five and a half by the time we

617
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: do it. But yeah, it's kind of just a spot

618
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: playing this Rams team. It's like they're always gonna be

619
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Speaker 2: able to back door you like that, the way their

620
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: offense plays. Hal McVeigh coaches them. This is like the

621
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 2: same exact spot I think earlier in the season we

622
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: took the Rams was a seven and a half against

623
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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers and we had a last second

624
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: field goal to cover that seven and a half. Like, yeah,

625
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: there's a couple of teams where I feel really comfortable

626
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: taking as big dogs, and McVeigh is one of them

627
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: where it's like he's he coaches his team never stop

628
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: and like they'll keep Matt staffor will keep pushing the

629
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: ball downfield. So it is a good matchup for the

630
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: running style that the Ravens do play against this Rams defense. Like,

631
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Speaker 2: if you're going to attack the Rams defense, a couple

632
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: of things that this Ravens team does will they'll be

633
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: able to do against this Rams team. But this is

634
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Speaker 2: simply I just I think we'll always be alive because

635
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: the backdoor play on this one shot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah Jackson Lamar Jackson twenty six and ten straight up

637
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Speaker 1: and fourteen and twenty two against the spread as a

638
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Speaker 1: favorite of two hundred and sixteen qbs. Over the last

639
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: twenty years, he has ranked two hundred and eighth against

640
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: the spread as a home favorite in all spots other

641
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Speaker 1: than as a favorite of three or less twenty one

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Speaker 1: and thirty. By the way, shout out to the Favorites

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Speaker 1: listener who came to the show wearing his Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: jersey and on it in permanent ink. He had written

645
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: a stat about Dak Prescott against the spread given to

646
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: him by Evan Abrams. Pretty good, right, So yeah, we're

647
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: on the Rams here plus seven. Brandon Anderson in his

648
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: hot read on Sunday Night in the podcast that Evan

649
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: Abrams and Joe Golant Do in a review of all

650
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: the games, previewing some early lines for the next week.

651
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: His hot read was Carolina plus six and a half

652
00:31:54,480 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: at the time against New Orleans. Why Allen continues to

653
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: be one of the worst coaches forget about of any

654
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: kind of football. But as a football fan who is betting,

655
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: you want to fade Dennis Allen. You want to fade

656
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen as a favorite. Five sixteen and one against

657
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: the spread. As a favorite, the Saints offense is bottom

658
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: five at home. Their defense is thirtieth in DVA, their

659
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: last in pass rush win weight, their thirty first in

660
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: past block win rate. The line got down to five,

661
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: it's been bet up to five and a half. I

662
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: think it's going to keep going up. I would wait,

663
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: but I do think Carolina could end up being a

664
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: strong player.

665
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right with him. I love Carolina, and I'm

666
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: with you. I was hoping I was gonna stay at six.

667
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: It's like that's a great number to play against a

668
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: Saint's team that just struggles in a red zone. I

669
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: mean even last week they had some opportunities to win

670
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: that game and they just kept coming up short. I

671
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: think Derek Carr might have been being concussion protocol now

672
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: this week, which means we might get Jamis as a favorite,

673
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: which is even better. So yeah, I'm gonna grab the

674
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: five and a half. Hope the six gets back so

675
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: we can go heavier on this game. But yeah, nice

676
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: early bet by him. I was. I was so mad

677
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,719
Speaker 2: at myself for not bringing up that game on Sunday

678
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: just because the line had moved so much. You know,

679
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: we talk all the time, we like backing these teams

680
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: after they fire their head coach. That was a good spot, right,

681
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: divisional game, ye catching more than whatever it was five

682
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: and a half went to three and a half by kickoff,

683
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: So the Pros roll over that one and what did

684
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: they get? Matt Mitchell two point conversion to get that

685
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: naked land on the three. But that's how it is

686
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: when you bet Carolina, right, it's gonna come down to

687
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 2: a stupid two point conversion. So five and a half matters.

688
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: If it comes down to that, you can land on

689
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: five again, you might as well grab the five and

690
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: a half like I am right now, just in case

691
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: it does drop back down to five four and a half.

692
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: Minnesota at Las Vegas. Las Vegas is a three point underdog.

693
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: This line was Tuesday was with two on Sunday night,

694
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: and we like the Raiders then, and now it's three

695
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: and I'm looking in the Action app and the money

696
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: is coming in on Las Vegas this early in the week.

697
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: I have to think it's wise guy money, which is

698
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: why it's weird to me it moved up instead of

699
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: moving in the Raiders direction. What are you seeing? Am

700
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: I wrong in my assumption here? No?

701
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I honest haven't been anything on it yet.

702
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: I did want to be on the Raiders side. I

703
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: like them at home as a dog. But I can

704
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 2: see why they would come in on the Vikings, right.

705
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: You're getting them after a bad loss and then what

706
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 2: they have the weekend off, right, so it's like you

707
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: expect them to come out of the game that they

708
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: know they need, like this is one of these If

709
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: they don't win this, it kind of feels like they

710
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: won't make the playoffs. Now, this Viking team, just because

711
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: Green Bay has come on so well here of late,

712
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: that feels like the team that's kind of kind of

713
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: pushed his Vikings team out, So I can kind of

714
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: see their angle of it. But yeah, like my model

715
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: on paper, it's like I want to be on the

716
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: Vike the Raiders here, But I guess so I can

717
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: just wait now chat and see where this line ends up.

718
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: Like if this gets to three and a half for us, great,

719
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, the thing would definitely scare me off. The

720
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: fact that if I talked to a couple of guys

721
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: and they really like the Vikings here and their scheme

722
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: matches up well against the Raiders, you know they're gonna

723
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: be a blitz heavy defense against our first year starter.

724
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 2: Maybe that does favor with the Vikings in some way.

725
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: But I really don't know why they're so heavy on

726
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 2: the Vikings right now, But I'm gonna try to find out.

727
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: We'll find out. So we'll wait and put a pin

728
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: in this one. We'll see if we give some sharp

729
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: calls giving us an indication. I mean, the truth is,

730
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: we got so many games that we like at this

731
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: point that we might not need the Raiders unless we

732
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: completely unless we completely fall in love with the Raiders.

733
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: Seattle at San Francisco minus ten and a half. We

734
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: were sitting in our studio on Monday. Yeah, we're scrolling

735
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: through the Action app and you said to me, wow,

736
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: Seattle has moved to thirteen to ten and a half.

737
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: What does somebody know? What does somebody think?

738
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, someone texted me and said have you seen

739
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: this line? And me and you were doing whatever you

740
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: were doing in studio. But I hadn't looked probably the

741
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 2: last hour, and I said to you, I said, this

742
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: line's moved whatever was two three points since we've sat

743
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 2: down here at this table. So clearly a really smart

744
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: group is coming heavy. I don't know if it was

745
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: in Jersey or in Vegas or where, but they moved

746
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: the numbers such every book followed, like really interesting when

747
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: every book moves from the twelve and a half thirteen

748
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 2: all the way down to ten and a half. So

749
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: somebody knows something, but I don't know. My gut instinct

750
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: here is to take the forty nine ers like they're

751
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: a juggernaut. I don't care if the Seahawks have had

752
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: extended rest here in that. You know, this is a

753
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: letdown spot for the forty nine ers after such a

754
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 2: huge emotional win against the Eagles, like they just they

755
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 2: got the guns. Like even when they're not playing their

756
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: best like Eagles game, they're being shut out. Once it

757
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: gets rolling, it's like a snowball of that team, Like

758
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: it's just the one to two punch of Ayuk and

759
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: Debo on the outside and the kid on the middle

760
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: with McCaffrey. It's just you can't stop it. So this

761
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: Seattle team is like tissue paper. I mean that Dallas

762
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: offense just cut through them so easily in that game,

763
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: a game which they should have won. It's not good.

764
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: Like I don't have I don't have the stats from

765
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 2: my guy Evan, but I know that historically I've done

766
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 2: well back in Kyle. Feels like against the Seahawks team

767
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 2: so earlier this year, I think we took the forty

768
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: nine Ers is a big favorite against the Seahawks, and

769
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they blew them out right. I think

770
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: that was a Thursday game and like the Seahawks had

771
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: to pick six and Thanksgiving. It was Thanksgiving, dude.

772
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: The Seahawks have played one game Thanksgiving when they got

773
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: blown out by the Niners. They played on they played

774
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and they almost upset them, but they still lost.

775
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: But this team, look, Gino was injured. I think Kenneth

776
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: Walker was injured in that game. Certainly this team has

777
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: some issues, but I'm not sure that to me. The

778
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: ten and a half, it's almost like I'm gonna look

779
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: at some of the numbers here from from Evan, but we're.

780
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: Talking about four straight against Seattle.

781
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 1: He's won four straight against Seattle.

782
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: Coverage four straight.

783
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: Since twenty nineteen, the road dog in the division covers

784
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: it a fifty seven percent clip. By the way, this weekend.

785
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: That includes Denver, which we haven't discussed, Philly, which we

786
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: haven't discussed, Seattle, which we have, Carolina which we have,

787
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay which we have.

788
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: Fuck, I'm on a lot of favorites. I just realized

789
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: trying to adjust to the times. Man, I don't know

790
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: what to do.

791
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: It's making out the last twenty years road dog in

792
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: the division ten or more fifty five percent against the spread.

793
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I want to dig. Why would I not

794
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: want to take a ten and a half dog, Chad?

795
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: That's why I don't trust it. It's like, what the

796
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: fuck is this number? Why did they move it off

797
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 2: twelve and a half to ten and a half such

798
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: a key number? Yeah, weird. The ten and a half's

799
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: just been sitting there.

800
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: It almost moved on air like they skipped. They skipped

801
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 1: four points, especially right they skipped they skipped the twelve,

802
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: they skipped the eleven and a half, they skipped the eleven.

803
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: They just went right to ten ten and a hours.

804
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense.

805
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: Luckily, I don't think we're gonna have to play this one.

806
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: Well, you know why we're not gonna have to play

807
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: this one?

808
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: Why?

809
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: Because we are fucking playing the Denver Broncos at the

810
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers is three point dogs. Roll it up,

811
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: put it in, whatever you gotta do. You know we're

812
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: playing the Broncos here plus.

813
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 2: Do I don't do it? No, I don't. I don't

814
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: why because what is this number? Why is it not

815
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 2: a pick? Mike? I'm with you, my gut instinct. When

816
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: I saw the three, I smile. I'm like, nice, give

817
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: me Denver plus three better coach teams playing way better.

818
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: Everything's so fucked up for the Charges right now? Like

819
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: who would have thought Mike Williams and Palmer were so

820
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: important to that offense? Like their number two and three

821
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: receiver apparently is what made the charges of Chargers. And

822
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: Herbert's been bad, man, he has been so bad this season.

823
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: So I'm with you, Chad my gut. I know I

824
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: have no money on this one. I could lose the

825
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: value because this could go to two and a half,

826
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 2: but I don't know what to do with it, Like

827
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 2: I want to take the three, but these damn favorites

828
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: have just been covering. When then when they shouldn't, So yeah,

829
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: I want to be there with you. I just I

830
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: have nothing on this one. Do not understand this line

831
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 2: at off like have it as a pick. I'm clearly

832
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: missing something here on this Chargers team. But because again

833
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 2: they're not healthy like Bosa has been out too. It

834
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: does not make spense, especially Denver. This easyly would have

835
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: been a pick if they would have won last week

836
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: and they were there right like they were an interception

837
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 2: away in the end zone, like a fifty to fifty

838
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 2: ball between receiver and the dB. That would change everything, right,

839
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 2: So I'm with Chad, like, if you want to grab

840
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: the three people, that's what I'll probably end up on.

841
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: But I don't know what to do with this number.

842
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 2: The weirdest line of the week. The Chargers are horrible

843
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 2: and they why are they catching three against anyone? When

844
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: we talked about the stats, like, this team does not

845
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: cover this number. So yeah, this this might not be

846
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: in where a big ball is better or whatever, but

847
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: I don't trust this number right now.

848
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: Look, it's the right spot, the right team in the division.

849
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: So long term winner, that's what a long term.

850
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: Winner against against that by the way, A Brandon Staley

851
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: coach team that underperforms and he'll be fired after this year. Yeah,

852
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: as a favorite, Like, it's the exact spot you want

853
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: to bet the Broncos. They just lost the Chargers one ugly.

854
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's part of it for sure, is the

855
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: Chargers got right a little bit again New England in

856
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: a game that could have gone badly for them.

857
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, six points, right, you know now there something's wrong

858
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: with the Chargers. Man. So yeah, like it's either Broncos

859
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 2: here for us or nothing.

860
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: Weird to me that you're so hesitant on this one.

861
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: It's like there's there's like goblins.

862
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: Been working, brother, We've been taking these ugly divisional dogs

863
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: and we begin burned. The public has been fucking feasting.

864
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: I'm trying to protect us mainly.

865
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: All right, I'm feeling the warm embrace of your protection

866
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: right now. Buffalo Kansas City, Kansas, Kansas City minus two

867
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: and a half. Another one we talked about on Sunday night.

868
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: Bill's at plus three. We both thought, wow, that's weird.

869
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: The wise guys bet it at plus three. Now it's

870
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: down under three and into two and a half. Mahomes

871
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: as a favorite of less than a field goal, I

872
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: think the question before we can really commit, is there's

873
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: something wrong with the Chiefs? Right? They finally found some

874
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: sustains that can happened momentum against Green Bay, it seemed

875
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: like they might win that game, Like Mahomes throws that

876
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: bad pick, but they were driving before that and that

877
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: was going to be the difference in the game. But

878
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,479
Speaker 1: we have to think, is Buffalo, which is now about

879
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: plus three to ninety to make the playoffs, desperate enough

880
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: after a bye week and that terrible loss to Philly

881
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: to make a game of it. Since twenty twenty, Mahomes

882
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: is seven to zero undefeated, coming off a loss where

883
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: Casey scored less than three touchdowns. They are winning by

884
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: an average of nearly twelve points per game, fifteen to

885
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,479
Speaker 1: five and one against the spread as a favorite under

886
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: three points or as an underdog.

887
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: And people tell me how much you loved me. Last week,

888
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 2: I gave you what Simon says, bet was Washington. It

889
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: was a horrible experience. This week, I gave you a

890
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: little gift. Ken City Chiefs. Grab it now two and

891
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: a half. Simon says, when sim do it, we do

892
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: WHOA Yeah, gotta go with the easiest one, like this

893
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: is a no brainer. Me and Chad. As soon as

894
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 2: they got a two and a half, we both looked

895
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 2: each other like, all right, well that's what we're doing

896
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: this week. If it was three and a half, we

897
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 2: probably on the Bills. This number should be three. Feels

898
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: like this is them went in by a field goal game,

899
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: just two teams dealing with a lot of shit this

900
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: year fighting it out like this is quickly became one

901
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: of the best rivalries in all football. Like the Josh

902
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: Allen Mahomes games are always amazing, always electric. Yeah, I

903
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 2: get the Bills will be incredibly desperate. Chad just gave

904
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: you the stats. We're getting Mahomes at home after a loss,

905
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: and you know they have a lot of things to

906
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: work on, but it feels like it's all there. It's

907
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: just little things aren't hitting what it usually does right there,

908
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: Like Chad says, these drops is what's killing them, Like

909
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 2: they kept even that last game they had some huge

910
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: drops on third down, Like that's what really killed them

911
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: in that game against Green Bay where Jordan Love's guys

912
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 2: were making the places for him and the Chiefs just weren't.

913
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 2: So I understand why people are kind of off this

914
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: Chiefs team. But got to back the value here. Look

915
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: like this numbers moved too much at two and a half.

916
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: We are getting value here now on this Chiefs team.

917
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, this is an auto play when I saw

918
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: get to that number. Now, when you read those stats

919
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: from Evan, that makes me feel so much better, like

920
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: I didn't know he was that good after a loss,

921
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: and the fact that it's under a field goal. We

922
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 2: just got to play the numbers here.

923
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,040
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945
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Speaker 1: The other Marquee matchup, the Sunday night game Philadelphia at Dallas.

946
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: Dallas is three and a half. This one has been

947
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 1: on the move, opened at two and a half. Wise, guys,

948
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: better immediately. You liked Dallas here, You like Dallas at

949
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: two and a half, You liked him at three. I

950
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: know you still like him at three and a half.

951
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 1: Explain where you have this game power rated right now?

952
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? I have had a minus four and Deptford Dallas,

953
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 2: and I've talked to a couple guys who like Eagles.

954
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 2: I get where their side is and what they're coming from,

955
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: and they think it's a good spot to back Eagles.

956
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: And they think that Dak and this Cowboys team will

957
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 2: have a letdown offensively against an Eagles team that you

958
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: know their defense just got embarrassed. Usually those teams kind

959
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 2: of bounce back. I just don't see it, like I'm

960
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: just not seeing it where the Eagles can get the

961
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: stops like this. This Dallas team is just well oiled

962
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: right now. And you know this the this the dak

963
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: to CD combo, like when he needs a third down

964
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 2: he goes to him. It's been working. So yeah, I'm

965
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 2: hoping we have five others so I don't have to

966
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 2: put this in my contest. So I don't really need

967
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: a root for it, but I bet it. Like here

968
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 2: we are on Tuesday again. I haven't really hit it

969
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: since it's been moved to the minus three and a half,

970
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: but at minus three minus two and a half, like,

971
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 2: I bet pretty heavy Sunday night into Monday morning on

972
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 2: Dallas and then you know me, Chad had a show

973
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: in the morning. I got back, drove down to Atlantic

974
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: City and by the time I got down there, they

975
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 2: were gone, like the three the threes were gone. It's

976
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: mainly three and a half's now. Today I wake up,

977
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: I'm seeing a couple of threes at a couple of

978
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: different books. So it's definitely back and forth between the

979
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 2: like different pro Like there's pros like me who have

980
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 2: this at four. There's a couple of pros who have

981
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: it a two and a half. So they're showing a

982
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 2: really good value right now on the Eagle, especially at

983
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: three and a half. So pretty interesting. But I do

984
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: think it all comes down to who's gonna have the

985
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: inside info on what that Hurts injury is and how

986
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: hurt he really is, Like, if Heurts is really banged up,

987
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 2: man like this, this number might steam up if someone

988
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 2: gets good info on what's going on with Hurts. If not,

989
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: you know, if he's totally fine, Yeah, you're getting good

990
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 2: value on this Eagles team because you know this probably

991
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 2: should just be three. So the fact that it's three

992
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 2: and a half, that's what indicates me that something's more

993
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: is going on the Egles than we know, Chad, So

994
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna feed on along with everyone else. But I

995
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: would not take Dallas in minus three and a half.

996
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: If you can find the three out there, I'd much

997
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: prefer that, just because we've seen when these two teams play,

998
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: it really does matter. The number does matter. It usually

999
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 2: does get close to three or four points whoever wins

1000
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: this game.

1001
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: As also a game that comes Sunday could be moving

1002
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: in the oppose direction, right like, there could be some

1003
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: wise guy moves that if it gets to four, it

1004
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: comes back down to three and a half. There's going

1005
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: to be options for this game.

1006
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 2: It could. I think a lot of the betting right now, though,

1007
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: is a Hurt speculation. That's why I bet so heavy

1008
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 2: yesterday on Dallas to get it before it moved, because

1009
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: I assume we'll get more info here on today and

1010
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: Wednesday about what's going on with Hurts if he practices

1011
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: or not, and that I think you'll see the line

1012
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: move again if he doesn't practice tomorrow or Thursday, I

1013
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 2: definitely think we'll see a lot more movement. But yeah,

1014
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: right now it's just speculation betting. I don't think anyone

1015
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 2: really knows what's going on with Hurts.

1016
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: Luckily, this week we have two Monday night football games

1017
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: and they are they're going to be barn burners. Tennessee

1018
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: is visiting Miami such an annoying line Because I mentioned

1019
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: this on Sunday night when it was I think Miami

1020
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 1: at twelve, I said we would like it. Miami at twelve.

1021
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, it moved to thirteen while

1022
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: we were recording. Now it's at fourteen.

1023
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: YEP.

1024
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: I mean to be honest, I kind of still lean Miami.

1025
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: They do dominate at home against these bad teams. Think

1026
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: about this, beat the Broncos by fifty, the Panthers by

1027
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: twenty one, even though the way that we were down

1028
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: fourteen in the first half. They beat the Giants by fifteen,

1029
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: They beat the pass by fourteen plus even the past

1030
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: two weeks, they dominated bad teams on the road. They

1031
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: beat the Commanders, they beat the Jets' I don't hate

1032
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: Miami is a huge favorite here.

1033
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the pros are betting off the

1034
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 2: Tennessee splits. That was the first lost Tennessee had at

1035
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: home this year. Like that was a little thing I

1036
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 2: loved about Tennessee why I wanted to take them as

1037
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: a dog. Last week. It's like pretty sure they were

1038
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: four and oh at home, and they just played really

1039
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 2: well with very well at home. The biggest news that

1040
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: I think moved this number is I'm almost positive I

1041
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 2: saw Simmons is injured, which is you know, their best

1042
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 2: d tackle. Yeah, yeah, it changes everything for Tennessee. Like

1043
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: he is the engine that gets that team gone, Like

1044
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: he's the run stopper, He's the guy that gets the

1045
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 2: pressure up the middle. So the pocket, you know, the

1046
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: QB has to move off their spot, which that's huge. Yeah,

1047
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 2: so yeah, Tito's saying here that Simon is expected to

1048
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 2: be out per varyable, So that's a that's a huge deal.

1049
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 2: Like the guy that was supposed to move tool off

1050
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 2: his spot, that's that's huge. So I honestly wanted to

1051
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 2: take Tennessee once his number moved to this point where

1052
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: it was up to like fourteen at a couple of books,

1053
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, that's that's a huge number for

1054
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: a Tennessee team that they don't quit, like they're gonna

1055
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 2: stay in it regardless. But I think Chad's right where

1056
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: I don't know where the pressure is gonna come from

1057
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: for this Tennessee team to really mess with to us.

1058
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: So we've seen it when two has a clean pocket

1059
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: and time to throw like he did against Washington last week,

1060
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: he's dominant, Like that's an incredible offense. So again, I

1061
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 2: don't know if this will be one to me and

1062
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: Chad's five because this number has moved way too much

1063
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,439
Speaker 2: at twelve and a half, I could have been talked

1064
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: into it, but at fourteen and a half, which is

1065
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 2: what I bet our contest line will be. Yeah, that

1066
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 2: scares me too much.

1067
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: Jeff uh By the way, I love you. Just put

1068
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: this to the Chat. Since we started the show and

1069
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: we talked about the Jets, the line has moved from

1070
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: six and a half to five and a half. I'm

1071
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: almost I'm almost glad because I hadn't betted at six

1072
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: and a half, and now I won't feel compelled to

1073
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: bet at at five and a half, so the option

1074
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: has been taken away from me.

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00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just thought it was funny just because man

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00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: mitchin or Chat is just cursing my name basically for

1077
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: even talking about the Jets that length, and it just

1078
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 2: cracks me up that it's like it's a pro game.

1079
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: I hate it too, brother, But there was really good

1080
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: value at six and a half, and Chad, I just

1081
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: said it. Now it's at five and a half, So

1082
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: I'm looking right now, there's like three three books left

1083
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: with a six out there. If you want to be

1084
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: miserable and ride the train with me, you can still

1085
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: get the six, but you've missed the six and a half.

1086
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: That's cute to come.

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00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: Back thanks to our amazing listeners who are so sharp

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00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: that they took the opportunity right off the board. For me,

1089
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: the good news is the good news is we still

1090
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to bet the other New York football team,

1091
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: the New York at plus six and a half. And

1092
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I don't hate it. Like fading

1093
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: the Packers coming off that massive win, going on the

1094
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: road against a defense that has been good enough in

1095
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: a primetime game. It's kind of where you want to

1096
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: play the Giants.

1097
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 2: And before I forget because this is our last one,

1098
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 2: I just want to give a little bit of loving

1099
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: a shout out to our Action Network social team. They

1100
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 2: had an amazing tweet about our potential quarterback matchups on

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00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: week fourteen. When I was talking about why the NFL

1102
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 2: tries so hard to protect the quarterbacks, this is what

1103
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 2: we might have this weekend people for quarterback matchups. So

1104
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 2: Thursday night we get Chad's favorite game of the week,

1105
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 2: Mitch Trubisky against Bailey Zappy. That is real. That's an

1106
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 2: NFL game. Next up, we have CJ. Stroud versus Trevor Simeon.

1107
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: That's real. Next up is Bryce Young, Jameis Winston, and

1108
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: we got Baker Mayfield, Desmond Ritter, and we got CJ Beth,

1109
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco. You're saying they can't get worse. It came home.

1110
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it gets worse. We got min Gardner

1111
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 2: Minshew against Jake Browning, and we've got Josh Dobbs, Aidan O'Connell,

1112
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 2: and then we finish it up Monday night with Jordan

1113
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: Love and Tommy DeVito. This is why the NFL protects

1114
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks? Chat that list right there, That.

1115
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: Is an incredible tweet.

1116
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 2: Incredible.

1117
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you read that with the context of

1118
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: this is why the NFL protects the quarterbacks. Got this

1119
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: is why the Packers Giants game is going for less

1120
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: than fifty bucks on game time right now.

1121
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 2: That was another great story from the party. We met

1122
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 2: some guys who were friends with Tommy DeVito, so he's

1123
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 2: from their hometown. Did they show you the pictures of him? No,

1124
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,479
Speaker 2: it was it was basically him out at the club

1125
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: the night before in Hoboken with his little necklace on

1126
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 2: that says TD, Oh my god, he doesn't drink. Apparently,

1127
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: he's like a good Christian boy. And it's like, how

1128
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 2: do I not love this guy in roof form. I

1129
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: was already going to back the Giants in this spot

1130
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 2: just because the Jordan love this is peak. I've been

1131
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: waiting to sell on them. And last week me and

1132
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 2: Chad talked, but we had a good number. Luckily, the

1133
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: model back that I had at a four and a half,

1134
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: we were getting six and a half in the contest.

1135
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: I think me and Chad said, screw it, what tack.

1136
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 2: The five and a half worked out anyway, right, I

1137
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: think a close five and a half didn't even matter.

1138
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 2: It's gonna catch up to them at some point. And

1139
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 2: you know the Giants for how lucky they've been on

1140
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 2: these last couple of wins, and I know how bad

1141
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 2: the video is. As a quarterback, we're kind of backing

1142
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 2: this defense to kind of stop dishort and love tring

1143
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: like I can't believe how good he's been, but also

1144
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: how lucky he's been. Like even in that game against

1145
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, I think that for me and Chad's lives,

1146
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 2: he on fourth and one threw off his back foot

1147
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 2: just up into the air, right into a guy's bread

1148
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: basket that got us the field goal to put him

1149
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 2: up there. Yes, so as well as he's been playing.

1150
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 2: If you go back and watch the film, he's really

1151
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: been missing some reads. But he's just been so incredibly accurate.

1152
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 2: That's been working out for him. But once again, the

1153
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 2: books are telling us the pros are going to be

1154
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 2: on this team here, right, Like this is the way

1155
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 2: they hung this number, this is everyone's gonna have this teased,

1156
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: like everyone's gonna have this in their teasers. Same thing

1157
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 2: with the Chiefs last week. The Chiefs. I talked to

1158
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: a bookmaker. I said on the show, they were the

1159
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: number one teas team, They're in everyone's teaser. They lost

1160
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 2: out right, your teaser is dead. Same feeling here with

1161
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 2: the Green Bay. Right, It's like you know that that

1162
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: was such a high emotional win against Detroit, and now

1163
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 2: you have another one against the Chiefs. Ones are going

1164
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 2: to catch up to them, and I think it does here.

1165
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: So once again, I don't know if it's gonna be

1166
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 2: one of our five, because me and you'd have some

1167
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 2: the other ones. But this is a game I have

1168
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 2: bet right now, I do like the six and a half.

1169
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 2: I'd probably take it down to five and a half.

1170
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 2: But once it hits that number. I'd stop like that.

1171
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 2: That feels right. The Giants are terrible offensively, they do

1172
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 2: have some major weaknesses. But this is way too big

1173
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: of my number for Jordan Love to be favored by.

1174
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: Not for nothing. I got twelve games written down that

1175
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: we might pull five from. Normally we're talking about six

1176
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: or seven. Might have to narrow some of these down.

1177
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: You know, I'm taking the Jets off.

1178
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: And then, yeah, that number's gone.

1179
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: That number's gone. I mean, we still like Carolina, we

1180
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: still like the Rams. Let's take Cleveland off.

1181
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: I gained to you, bears By. I think by the

1182
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: time we do Thursday, I'd be shocked if there's still

1183
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 2: three and a half s left.

1184
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. I mean it's still going to be

1185
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: exact decision. Kansas City minus two and a half. Dallas

1186
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: could be really interesting. We'll probably end up taking Miami

1187
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: off because I don't think it'll I mean, maybe it'll

1188
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: be a thirteen and a half. But even if it is,

1189
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure we're going to love that. It's too big.

1190
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: Denver plus three we're gonna love. I can't wait to

1191
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,600
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