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Speaker 1: Here's a scene for you. Let's pretend for a moment

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Speaker 1: And this is a long, bloody, ugly hot war with China,

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Speaker 1: And the war is finally over. Remember this is imaginary.

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Speaker 1: Kelly Show. When you storm into a city and you're

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Speaker 1: what that means. The death was oftentimes preferred, so they

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Speaker 1: begin to storm through carthage. Only these people are not

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Speaker 1: said there were two hundred thousand in it. Some said

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Speaker 1: It blows me away, But nobody ever knows. The numbers

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Speaker 1: could be two hundred thousand, could be five hundred thousand.

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Speaker 1: Watch it was probably two million, and no one knows,

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Speaker 1: I mean no one else. It's a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: and these people are fighting back. They're fighting house to house.

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Speaker 1: These ancient cities you like to picture them oftentimes as well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure the walls are big and pretty,

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Speaker 1: And no, they had multi multi story homes, townhouses, apartment complexes.

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Speaker 1: It looked like what you would picture an American city today,

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Speaker 1: only a lot. Yeah, a little bit, a little bit

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Speaker 1: old school looking, but it looked that way. An apartment

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Speaker 1: is an apartment. It is an apartment. And the Carthaginians, no,

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Speaker 1: there is no escape. The entire city has been under siege.

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Speaker 1: We're all going to die. And they choose to make

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Speaker 1: the Romans earn every single inch of this city. They're

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Speaker 1: do to a man's skull from three stories up, Squash

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Speaker 1: by house by house. Now, remember what I said earlier

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Speaker 1: about the torture sounds. What does that sounds like when

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Speaker 1: because they began to light things on fire and fires

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Speaker 1: would break out anyway, and they're screaming and there's crying

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Speaker 1: And you have a man maybe his brother and father

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Speaker 1: That's one scene. Multiply that a hundred thousand times as

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Speaker 1: the Romans have to fight their way inch by inch

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Speaker 1: finally take the city. Hasdrubal the man in charge. You

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Speaker 1: hundred people holding out. They're holding out at the citadel,

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Speaker 1: In a scene that you know, there are scenes in

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Speaker 1: I can't believe they went through that. Hey, you want

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Speaker 1: Hasdrubal tries to surrender to the Romans. Hasdrubal's wife walks

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Speaker 1: What does that look like? What was the look on

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Speaker 1: Hasdrubal's face as he watched his wife and two sons

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Speaker 1: jump into the fire on purpose? What do you think

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Speaker 1: the look on his face was? And then, well, Scipio,

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Speaker 1: who was watching this whole thing, who finally had this

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Speaker 1: I were just talking off air about how intense sieges

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Speaker 1: were and we're gonna do more sieges, and they're always

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Speaker 1: you know. I don't like to do a heavy show,

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Speaker 1: I want it to be because it's a siege and

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Speaker 1: it is the worst experience in history. Is there a

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Speaker 1: worst experience than having a city being broken into by

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Speaker 1: an enemy army? It's not good. It's not good. It's

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Speaker 1: all ugly, and it's all the worst parts of man

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Speaker 1: rolled up into one. I'm not saying it's not necessary.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to lay a siege. It just it

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Speaker 1: just brings out everything ugly, everything ugly. Now you're Skipio.

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Speaker 1: You've fought against the Carthaginians for so long, you made

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Speaker 1: your bones in Spain. You've had, you've had everything, You're

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Speaker 1: you're famous now right, you finally are walking chin Carthage burn.

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Speaker 1: Your men are destroying the city under orders, and I

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Speaker 1: know what Skipio did as he watched Carthage burn. He wept?

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Speaker 1: And do you know why he wept? They asked him,

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Speaker 1: what's wrong? Obviously it's a weird thing, and he said, essentially,

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Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing here, because that's our fate too, That's the

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Speaker 1: fate of everyone. Every great empire ends like that. Rome

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Speaker 1: wiped Carthage quite literally off the map. They destroyed the

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Speaker 1: city itself, killed or enslaved every single one of them.

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Speaker 1: I don't mean the nobles, I don't mean most of them.

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Speaker 1: All of them gone. They eliminated Carthage from memory. A society,

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Speaker 1: it really cannot be utterly destroyed from outside sources. Don't

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Speaker 1: get me wrong. Small societies can, but it can't only

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Speaker 1: be outside sources. I mean, who's the greatest conqueror we

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Speaker 1: talk about all the time, greatest Genghis Khan. Right, even

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Speaker 1: when he wiped out the Charismian Shaw's empire, what did

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Speaker 1: I tell you he did? We've gone over this before.

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Speaker 1: He was emphatic about it. He would send in spies

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Speaker 1: into the major cities. He was going going into find

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Speaker 1: out the political factions and find a way to get

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Speaker 1: a bunch of people working against that city from within.

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Speaker 1: Even Genghis Khan new, well we need some people on

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Speaker 1: the inside. Come on, now, once you're a major power,

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Speaker 1: you don't get brought down by another major power, not

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Speaker 1: head to head. You bring yourself down. Now, the other

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Speaker 1: me to just say before I say them, I'm not sorry,

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Speaker 1: But here's the truth. Half of this country politically, not

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Speaker 1: of it, major major portions of it, are now actively

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Speaker 1: working to bring down the United States of America. They

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Speaker 1: its destruction. If you do not believe that you have

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Speaker 1: The violence is not stopping. I saw an aerial video

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Speaker 1: just been bombed. The place was on fire, and the

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Speaker 1: media has spent the last week pouring gasoline on every fire. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we understand your protest. Ah, this is the voice of

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Speaker 1: the unheard. You know what I heard. It's the white nationalists.

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Speaker 1: There are definitely some of those guys out here, and

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Speaker 1: that's just the media. We have Hollywood leftists right here,

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Speaker 1: Chrissy Tegan, Steve Carrell, remember that name, and others donating

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Speaker 1: money to bail out the people arrested. Chrissy Teagan in

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Speaker 1: celebration of whatever the blank maganite is. I'm committing. I'm

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Speaker 1: committing to donating one hundred thousand dollars to the protests

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Speaker 1: across the country. I'm not making that up. That's real.

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Speaker 1: Seth Rogan. Another actor gets on and says matched. Steve Carrell,

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Speaker 1: figures to bailing out people burning down American cities. Oh

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Speaker 1: it doesn't stop there. The son of Minnesota's Democrat A

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Speaker 1: Karney Jeer, Attorney General I hear by declare officially my

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Speaker 1: support for Antifa. You know, the Antifa that was just

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, we're not done yet. Omar's daughter, Representative Ilhan

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Speaker 1: the rioters. But wait, there's more. Mayor Bill Deblasio's daughter Chiara,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's how you say that

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Speaker 1: United States of America. I am sorry. If you are

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Speaker 1: I know this is tough to hear. I'm not talking

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Speaker 1: to you specifically. Your party is gone. You now are

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Speaker 1: completely dedicated as a party. Not you as a party.

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Speaker 1: You are dedicated to the destruction of the United States

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Speaker 1: of America. You're raising another generation that's dedicated to that

636
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: same destruction, and if you continue to turn a blind

637
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Speaker 1: eye to it, you are dedicated to that destruction. Your

638
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: party has been ripped up and remade and it is

639
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: gone all the way. And if we can stop another narrative,

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00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: and you want to talk about making you uncomfortable, I'm

641
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 1: sure this is gonna get me in trouble, but I

642
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Speaker 1: don't care. Yes, I'm fine with designating Antifa as a

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Speaker 1: terrorist organization. I'm fine with the President calling out Antifa.

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00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm fine with a g bar calling out Antifa. But

645
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: can we please stop with this absurd narrative that all

646
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 1: the violence and looting and destruction is coming from Antifa?

647
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: What kind of chill are we? Are we completely unable

648
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Speaker 1: to address problems in a frank way in the United

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00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: States of America anymore? People, I've seen the videos. Yes,

650
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Speaker 1: there's obviously a ton of Antifa out there, but come on,

651
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Speaker 1: These riots and looting in protests are a mixture of

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Speaker 1: a thousand different things. Antifa is part of it, no question.

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00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: Part of it is just some scumbag people trying to loot,

654
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: no question. Part of this is Black Lives Matter doing

655
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 1: violent things, no question. Part of this our gangs doing

656
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: violent things, no question. Why do we fail to address

657
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Speaker 1: any problems in any other community in the country. Why

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Speaker 1: are we not allowed to say, yeah, if your community

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Speaker 1: can rise up and burn down American cities at the

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Speaker 1: snap of their fingers, maybe you have some problems you

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00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: should address as well. And that's no shame in that.

662
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: Don't we all have problems. It's only Antifa doing the writing. Oh,

663
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: be freaking serious. No, it's not. No, it's not feeling

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Speaker 1: a little stocky. Follow like a subscribe on social at

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Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly DC. You lay down to sleep at night

666
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: and you're tired. And I know this because let's be honest,

667
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: I've gone through this myself. You laid on to sleep,

668
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: you're tired, you need a good night's sleep, and oh man,

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Speaker 1: I'm so exhausted. I just please just need to sleep.

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00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: And then huh what about? Oh man, that was kind

671
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Speaker 1: of a good day today at work. I hope, I

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Speaker 1: hope it goes well tomorrow. I had that big meeting tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Oh did I remember Little Billy's homework of it? You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. Your mind it starts going

675
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: ten miles a minute and you can't turn it off

676
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: and soon, sooner or later, it's midnight, and you know

677
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: you're going to be a zombie because you know now

678
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: your thoughts are racing, and now you're also nervous about

679
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 1: not falling asleep, which only makes you fall asleep even worse.

680
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: Go get an EBB sleep. It targets those thoughts and

681
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: calms your mind down. Go to try ebb dot com

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Speaker 1: slash jesse. That's try ebb dot com slash jesse. Use

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00:54:39,520 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: the promo code at jesse gets you twenty five bucks off. People.

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Speaker 1: We are never going to address the racial tension in

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Speaker 1: America by avoiding talking about black people at all costs.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand this. And you know what's so weird

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Speaker 1: is I have this conversation with black friends I have,

688
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Speaker 1: and we can have this conversation. Frankly, why do we

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Speaker 1: You can't address any tensions unless you're open about them.

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Speaker 1: You know, the most racially at ease environment I've ever

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Speaker 1: been into my life the United States Marine Corps, where

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Speaker 1: we used to say the most horrible things to each

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Speaker 1: other on a regular basis and we would laugh, and

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Speaker 1: they'd say horrible things back, and we would laugh and

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00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: everything was fine. And you know why it was great,

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Speaker 1: not just because we could joke about it, because everybody talked.

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00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: If I one day wanted to and did this actually

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Speaker 1: walk up to my platoon sergeant staff Sergeant Parsons, whose

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Speaker 1: arms were as big as my legs, and he could

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Speaker 1: have squashed my head like a grape and say to him,

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Speaker 1: staff sergeant, I don't understand why black people love cadillacs.

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Speaker 1: And he can laugh until I think the glass is

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Speaker 1: going to shatter, because he had one of those laughs

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Speaker 1: that he sits me down, and we have a good laugh,

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Speaker 1: a good laugh about it, and then a talk about it,

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Speaker 1: and you know what, I learned a lot. But in America,

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Speaker 1: here's how race is discussed. White people suck. White people suck. Oh,

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Speaker 1: there's looters that must be white people, rioters, it's white people.

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Speaker 1: There's destruction going on. It's probably mainly the white people.

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Speaker 1: White this white that white that. Oh there's a black

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Speaker 1: person doing something, well, a white person must have made

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Speaker 1: him do it or basically forced him to do it.

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Speaker 1: It's certainly not the same black person white people. It's white.

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Speaker 1: And you think that's somehow tolerant, You think that is

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Speaker 1: in some way racially tolerant. It's actually the most insulting

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Speaker 1: thing humanly possible. One. We're all individuals. I have news

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00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: for you. Stop the presses. I know you're gonna find

718
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 1: this shocking. There are some amazing white people out there.

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00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: There are some horrible white people out there. There are

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00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: some amazing black people out there. There are some horrible

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Speaker 1: black people. There are amazing Hispanics, there are horrible Hispanics.

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Speaker 1: I know you're gonna find this really, really shocking. But

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Speaker 1: every skin color has scumbags, every skin color has great people.

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Speaker 1: You can't have American cities burning down and do everything

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00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: you can to only address the easy part of the problem.

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Speaker 1: It's easy to stand up and say it's all Antifa,

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00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: who we took care of the problem. It's Antifa. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not, man, Come on with that. I've seen the pictures.

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Speaker 1: I know you've seen them too. I've seen the video.

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Speaker 1: I know you've seen them too. Come on, dude, but

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Speaker 1: this is what we do. Want to you want to

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Speaker 1: know what we do. You want to know what we do. Listen,

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Speaker 1: this is a United States senator. This is a Republican

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Speaker 1: United States senator. This is how we choose to address

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Speaker 1: problems in this country. The murder of George Floyd is

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Speaker 1: both a tragedy and a travesty, and the anger we've

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Speaker 1: seen built around it isn't just justified, but it is

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Speaker 1: also more than just about mister Floyd's murder. It is

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Speaker 1: about the fact that a substantial percentage of the American

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Speaker 1: family believes and feels that their issues receive less attention

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Speaker 1: and their lives are held with less value because of

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Speaker 1: the race, because of the color of their skin. This

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Speaker 1: is an ongoing problem that has haunted us for far

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00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: too long and it must be addressed. And the anger

745
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: you saw spill over in these protests across the country, well,

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00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: that's where it comes from as much as anything else. Unfortunately, however,

747
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: while these protesters that are out there to talk about

748
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Speaker 1: these issues and to point to mister Floyd's murder, these

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Speaker 1: protesters have been largely peaceful. They are not the ones

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Speaker 1: looting and burning and hurting people. But something happens at

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00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: these protests right around sundown. Suddenly they start to turn violent,

752
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: and they start to turn violent because some people show up,

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Speaker 1: and they show up with backpacks and in them they

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Speaker 1: have batons and incendiary devices. We've heard reports of people

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Speaker 1: showing up in trucks to begin to take things out,

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Speaker 1: and that's when the looting starts. That's when the violin starts.

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00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: Who are these people totally wrong? I mean it's partially right. Yeah,

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00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: that happens. They were burning down Minneapolis before anybody from

759
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: Antifa showed up. It's completely false. But the first night

760
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: of the Antifa protests. Go back and look at what

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00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: happened in Target when they smashed through and they took

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Speaker 1: the after video of Target, and the place was a

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00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: smoky ruin and we had people sitting there kneeling in

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Speaker 1: front of the cash registers bashing them open. Come on,

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00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: stop absolving bad people of sponsibility for doing bad things.

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Speaker 1: In what way do you think that improves racial tension

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Speaker 1: in America? It's only Antifa, it's definitely Antifa. These are

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Speaker 1: all out of towners. Everybody's out of town. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's probably from out of town. That's a bunch of crap.

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Speaker 1: Go look at the arrest records which are already coming

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Speaker 1: out now. Yes, there are some out of towners. Yes,

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Speaker 1: most of these people are homegrown. Baby. I think this

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Speaker 1: must have been a bust and white Antifa person. It

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01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: certainly was nope, wild No, it wasn't a black person.

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Speaker 1: What is that? That's insulting to everybody, including black people.

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Speaker 1: You cannot properly address these things without addressing the actual issue.

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01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: But that's what we do each and every time now

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Speaker 1: in America. Rubio is the worst example of it. He

779
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: keeps going, listen to this crap, who are these people?

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01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: Because the real protesters on the ground will tell you

781
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: they don't know who they are. They've never seen them before.

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Speaker 1: These people are violent, domestic extremists, and they range from

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Speaker 1: Antifa groups who are radical to the left, to some

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Speaker 1: other groups radical to the right. In fact, groups said

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Speaker 1: I would argue, you don't even belong to groups radical

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Speaker 1: on the right, and by the grace of God, the

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01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: pundit class on the right destroyed Rubio for that. What

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Speaker 1: what do you mean what radical groups on the right?

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01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: Who on the right? There? You know what His answer

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Speaker 1: for it was, there have been some online chat rooms.

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Speaker 1: The leftists organized and burn down every major US city,

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Speaker 1: including city hall, historic landmarks. People are dying in the streets,

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Speaker 1: and Marco Rubio stands up beyond the microphone and says, wow,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of both sides. What in the world.

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Speaker 1: What in the world. Honestly, we are Carthage. We are

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Speaker 1: half this country. At least half of the people with

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Speaker 1: a platform in this country, and probably a lot more

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Speaker 1: than half. They are either wholly dedicated to bringing the

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Speaker 1: place down or they're like Marco Rubio and they want

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Speaker 1: to try to Well, we have to fight back against

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Speaker 1: the people trying to bring the country down, but don't

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Speaker 1: fight too hard. And I mean, obviously it's kind of

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Speaker 1: my fault and your fault. Yes, Genghis, I know you're

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Speaker 1: coming over the walls, but everybody, don't blame Genghis in

805
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Speaker 1: the Mongolian hordes. Really, this is both of us here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, obviously they're gonna cut off everyone's head.

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Speaker 1: But let's remember we stopped some toast too. What in

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Speaker 1: the what do we have to do for real leadership

809
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Speaker 1: in this country? What do we have to do for

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Speaker 1: somebody to stand up and call a spade a spade.

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Speaker 1: Nobody wants to do it. Nobody's going to do it,

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Speaker 1: you know, Chris, You know, I don't like to raise

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Speaker 1: my voice on the show, and I feel like I've

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Speaker 1: been raising my voice a lot today. I've been watching

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Speaker 1: it all weekend long, and I've just been dying to

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Speaker 1: get behind this microphone at I'm amazed at what I see.

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01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm amazed at what I see. We are never, ever,

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Speaker 1: ever going to solve the problems of this country by

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Speaker 1: apologizing for bad people. You know what's amazing about this?

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Speaker 1: Remember how all this began. It began with a cop

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Speaker 1: murdering that dude, George Floyd, in the entire United States

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Speaker 1: of America coming out immediately and condemning it. It united

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Speaker 1: the nation. Wait, we're burning down America in agreement about something? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what are we looking at in November? I get this

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01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: question all the time now. I had it a dozen

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Speaker 1: times this weekend. How's the election doing? What are we

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Speaker 1: doing in November? What are we doing in November. I

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01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: don't want to bring you down. I don't want it

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Speaker 1: to press you. As everybody knows, I'm Jesse the Oracle

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Speaker 1: Kelly Chris, so everyone thinks I can predict the future

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01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: because of the last couple of months, even though I

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Speaker 1: gave myself that nickname. Just work as hard as you

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Speaker 1: can for President Trump to get him reelected in November

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Speaker 1: is all I'm gonna try to tell you. Understand this

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Speaker 1: understand it. Well. I was already as loud as I

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Speaker 1: could possibly have been about how I feel about the lockdowns.

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Speaker 1: I was as loud as I could possibly have been.

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Speaker 1: These lockdowns were a disaster. They were a disaster. They

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Speaker 1: have created an economic disaster. They happened under President Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: You can blame him, you cannot blame him. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: The truth is they happened under President Donald Trump. They did.

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Speaker 1: It's a Chinese virus. Not saying it came from him,

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Speaker 1: but it happened under President Donald Trump. That's a fact.

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Speaker 1: People are going to walk into the polls and they're

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Speaker 1: going to know that. And now we have American cities burning,

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Speaker 1: and that happens, you know. Joining me now to talk

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Speaker 1: about that political strategist and Esquire, Aaron, please please tell

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Speaker 1: me what an esquire is, by the way, before we continue,

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Speaker 1: an esquire is simply someone that has suffered through three

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Speaker 1: years of law school, has past the bar exam. Now,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, why do some people call themselves esquire

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Speaker 1: and some do not? I don't know. I really enjoy

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Speaker 1: the moniker or title, if you will, so I think

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Speaker 1: it's a matter of taste, but I really like it.

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Speaker 1: So I think we should all esquire up. All right, well,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Elmore joining us. Now, Now, do you have it

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Speaker 1: on your business card? Yes? I do. I always kind

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Speaker 1: of keep it keep it there because I worked really

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Speaker 1: hard for it and I'm proud of it. In that

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Speaker 1: bar exam is no joke. Do you want to take

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Speaker 1: a hard left turn like Kim Kardashian because her dad

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01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: was a really famous lawyer who's on the OJ case right,

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01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: And she said, now, and the only state in the

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Speaker 1: country I believe that you can take the bar exam

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Speaker 1: without going to law school with California. So she like

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Speaker 1: fancies herself as studying for the bar exam and they

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01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: really upset me. That's for a whole another show. Now

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Speaker 1: tell me something one last question about the business card.

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01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: Do you are you one of these people that gets

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Speaker 1: the extra thick like Engraves one to really Tommy Topp

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01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: or anybody, or you just get the normal business card

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01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,759
Speaker 1: like Kinks or whatever. Okay, I love that you're basically

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Speaker 1: using an American psycho reference. And I'm here for it

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01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: because an American psycho. All of those guys compare their

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Speaker 1: business cards. I you know, I fancy myself to be

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01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: hit like the young kids, which I know I'm not.

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01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 1: I don't think the young kids really have business cards.

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01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 1: They use their cell phone. So half the time I'm

879
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,759
Speaker 1: just putting my information in people's cell phones or damming

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01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 1: or doing all of that cool kids stuff. Okay, to

881
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: try to fit in, which I never will. Aaron, you

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01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 1: are a Philly person now, for better or for worse.

883
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: You're a Philly person, which means you have access to

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01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 1: amazing food. It also means your city is on fire.

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01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: I saw a video last night. It was an aerial

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01:08:56,320 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: from yesterday evening in Philadelphia, and it's it seriously looked

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01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 1: like the city had been bombed. What's it like to

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01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: be in Philly? We can all see the video. We

889
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: know that what's it like to be there? It's terrifying.

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01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,919
Speaker 1: You couldn't leave your house yesterday even during the daytime.

891
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: People were looting and rioting as people were cleaning up.

892
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: Our mayor gave an embarrassing and disappointing speech about you

893
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: know how we have to apologize for poverty in this city.

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01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 1: And it really was misguided and it wasn't a sort

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01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 1: of a statement of hope or a statement of law

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01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: and order. Our police Commission. On the other hand, she

897
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: is a like a tough, strong African American woman, and

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01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: she sent a really positive message so that it was

899
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 1: at least a glimmer of hope. But it's dangerous. Walnut

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01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: Street is the main shopping drag and the windows were

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01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: all smashed out. My son, I have a seven year old,

902
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 1: he's old enough to read at the police and what

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01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 1: were the other things? Like all swear words like a

904
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: archy at once and f law and order and it's

905
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: it's really, really, really really sad. It's so so sad,

906
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: and it's dangerous about more dead cops, no peace, sumpsters

907
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: on fire, cop cars on fire, like all it sounds

908
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 1: like overhead what helicopters going overhead and police sirens and

909
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: fire trucks going by. And I no longer want to

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01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 1: be a part of this narrative. I don't want to

911
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 1: live here anymore. I vote Republican and I'm sorry that

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01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: upset some people. This is taxation without representation. I'm a

913
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 1: political prisoner, and I truly feel that what does it

914
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 1: make you want to do? Because I know, look, I

915
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: know that you're a city person. I know that's what

916
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: you enjoy, and I love the city. Do you want

917
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 1: to pack up the family and move into a cabin

918
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: in the mountains? Do you want to move to Barbados?

919
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 1: What does it make you want to do being in there?

920
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: And I'm asking this of all my friends who live,

921
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: you know, in the belly of the beast, in various places,

922
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: because there is so much to love about a city,

923
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 1: what does it make you want to do? Honestly, I

924
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 1: had a long conversation with my better half, my husband,

925
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: last night, and we intend to move out of the city.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, we want to have children and careers.

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Speaker 1: You have to make decisions that to that. And my

928
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: husband's job is here, I work all over and my

929
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: son's school is here. So we are going and we

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01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: are going to probably move out to a little bit

931
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Speaker 1: more of a rural area in the suburbs, because I

932
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 1: don't want to live like this anymore. My son does

933
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: not deserve to see this every day. It's really dark,

934
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Speaker 1: and it's really upsetting, and it's really depressing. What's the

935
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 1: firearms situation? Like? You don't have to address your home

936
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Speaker 1: specific I know people don't like to give out that

937
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: personal information, but people you know who live you know

938
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Speaker 1: close to you in the city. What is the firearms situation?

939
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: Is it something you can get a permit for? Are

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01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: they allowed? Can you just sit and pray the cops

941
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 1: will show up on time? What do you do? Generally speaking,

942
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Speaker 1: the cops do not come in the city, but they've

943
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: been instructed not to and support from our they have

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01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 1: no sub They basically generally like, have no support from

945
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Speaker 1: our district attorney, and they have no support from our mayor.

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Speaker 1: So half the time, you know, they don't come. I

947
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: was mudge and Broad Daylight about a year ago, and

948
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 1: I had a call six times and I said, look,

949
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Speaker 1: I'm not standing on the street corner anymore. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to my house. Here's my address, please come. I want

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Speaker 1: to fill out a police report because I wanted to

952
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Speaker 1: be known what happened to me in my city. My friend,

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01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: her husband owns two clothing stores in an inner city neighborhood,

954
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Speaker 1: and he both of his stores were looted. I'll send

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01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: you the videos there beyond depressing and terrifying and a

956
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: looted like that, there are no rat slash. They took

957
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: the clothing rats. But you need to be kidding me

958
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: on this. My point is telling you this is that

959
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: the cops would come, and then groups of kids would

960
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 1: come and say, if you don't leave you, we're gonna

961
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: kill you. Yes for the cops. Yeah, and then the

962
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 1: cops just live because they thought no one was watching.

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01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 1: What Well, all right, Aaron first, and I mean she

964
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: will get on your show. I mean I'm her and

965
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 1: her husband on these stores. Yeah, because I feel helpless. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna want her on. Aaron. I need you to

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Speaker 1: tell me the story of getting mugged, and I may

968
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 1: interrupt you for a commercial break. Can I hold you

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01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: ever real quick? Is that? Okay? I know you're a

970
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 1: busy woman. All right, I'll hold tell me the story

971
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Speaker 1: first about getting mugged. I'll interrupt you when we have

972
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: to get a break, okay, and I'll talk quickly so

973
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Speaker 1: I apologize. You're fine, you got time, okay. I was

974
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 1: coming back from an exercise class. It was actually was

975
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 1: last summer, and I saw on the other side of

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Speaker 1: the street, um a gentleman on a bike going like

977
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: on the sideway, like going all slowly, and he was

978
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: looking at me in a really creepy way. So I thought,

979
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 1: you know what, perhaps I should throw on some more attire.

980
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: I was in my workout clothes or not exactly conservative.

981
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 1: So I thought, maybe I just don't have enough clothes

982
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 1: on and if guy's googling me, So I crossed the

983
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: other side of the street and I go about my

984
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 1: business just thinking that's all I have on me is

985
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: a little bag. And it's like one of those slimy,

986
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: slimsy bags you get at a store, you know. So

987
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: all of a sudden I saw the tug chug hug,

988
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: and the guy on the bike made off with my bag.

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Speaker 1: Hang on one second, we will be right back with more.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Elmore, political strategist in Philadelphia, resident, Hang on, is

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Speaker 1: that Express VPN? Remember that name because you're going to

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Speaker 1: want it. You protect your family, don't you. You care

993
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Speaker 1: about your your wife, husband, kids, worry about your car,

994
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Speaker 1: worry about your house. You worry about protection. So why

995
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: do you just log onto the internet anytime in your

996
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: home without express VPN? Why do you let your kids

997
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,799
Speaker 1: do it on their pads, on their little iPads and such?

998
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 1: Do you know that your internet service provider can see

999
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: everything you do online? Yes, even that private browser you

1000
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: have up to try to protect your information, your Internet

1001
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Speaker 1: service provider can see that too. Unless you have Express vpn,

1002
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Speaker 1: you essentially have left a huge window open where people

1003
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Speaker 1: can peer into your home. Does that sound safe? It's not.

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Speaker 1: Go to Express vpn dot com slash Jesse. Oh, actually

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Speaker 1: gets you an extra three months free on a one

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Speaker 1: year package Express vpn dot com. Slash Jesse speaking with

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Speaker 1: Aaron Elmore, political strategist Esquire and person who got mugged

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Speaker 1: last year in Philly. So he just yanked your purse

1009
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 1: off your shoulder, Broad day Light, eleven thirty am walking

1010
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: down a relatively busy street. Creepy guy on a fight

1011
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 1: yank bag off my shoulder, and I'm like, what just happened?

1012
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 1: But the only silver I mean the silver lining. I

1013
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: wasn't hurt, but the other silver lining is the only

1014
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 1: thing that he made off was was my spinning shoes

1015
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: which you can only wear them on a spinning blaye

1016
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: and my custom ear plugs that only fit in my ear.

1017
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 1: To guess what, funny? And I think three dollars so

1018
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 1: I could buy a water that's I never bought. So yeah,

1019
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: oh guess what. Obviously we're not allowed to address how

1020
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 1: old you are because you're a woman, and we avoid

1021
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: that subject at all costs. However, You're not to play.

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01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 1: You're not twelve. You are a grown adult with a

1023
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: husband and children, so you are relatively life experienced. What

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01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying is, over the course of your very short life,

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01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 1: have you seen Philly change or has it really? Is

1026
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: that just a rosy way to look at history? Has

1027
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 1: it really always been this way and we just have

1028
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:01,640
Speaker 1: more media showing it now? No, because the crime statistics

1029
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 1: tell another story. The more you put liberals in power,

1030
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: crime goes up. Our district attorney, look him up if

1031
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 1: you don't know him, Larry Krasner. He is a pro defended,

1032
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: pro criminal district attorney who's a former defense attorney who

1033
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: wants criminals on the street. Someone a friend of ours

1034
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: is actually murdered and the fancy of zip code and

1035
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:24,719
Speaker 1: the guy got off and this city is falling apart

1036
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: because of Democrat leadership. Good grief? Now, is there any

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01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,719
Speaker 1: I guess I don't understand all the politics of every

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Speaker 1: major city. And this is why I'm asking we from

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01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: the outside looking in just assume, Wow, it's ninety nine

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Speaker 1: point nine nine percent Democrat. There's never been a Republican

1041
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 1: mayor of Philadelphia. And that may be the case. Is

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01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: that the case is it radically hard left in everyone's

1043
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 1: that way, it's going further and further. For example, on

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Speaker 1: our Philadelphia City Council, the worribly two Republican seats and

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01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 1: the rest are Democrat and at large, well, we lost

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Speaker 1: one of those Republican seats to basically, I forget the

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01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 1: name of the movement, but it's a far far left

1048
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 1: sort of AOC styled, Antifa styled movement. So this city

1049
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 1: is going really really hard left. And what I would

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01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 1: like to ask the people that are living here and

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01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: paying the taxes here and voting for these people, do

1052
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 1: you think this is going to help? What do your

1053
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 1: Republicans Republican friends say? Is this the thing? When you're

1054
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: in a city like that? Do you just grin and

1055
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: bear itt? You just shrug your shoulders and think, oh,

1056
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: another part of my city being laid waste? Does it

1057
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: make you mad every day? Do y'all even discuss it anymore?

1058
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 1: To be honest, I just spoke to a friend that

1059
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 1: I grew up with. It knows me very well. We

1060
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,719
Speaker 1: just saw each other and he said, I was surprised

1061
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: to see how angry you are, because he's never been

1062
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 1: an angry person and I am really angry. First of all,

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01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,679
Speaker 1: I was angry about how the coronavirus response was handling

1064
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: the city, and now with these riots, I'm so angry

1065
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: about the riot response, and now it's just a level

1066
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 1: of anger. I have friends, like I said, an owned

1067
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: businesses in the city that have gotten decimated. Instead we're

1068
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 1: apologizing for poverty. Why aren't we apologizing to the business

1069
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: owners for all of the businesses of destroy These are

1070
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: the people that are propping up the community and paying

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01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: the taxes. So all of my friends basically said, these

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01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 1: riots aren't an advocation for change. These riots are going

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01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 1: to have a social impact. The only impact they are

1074
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 1: going to have is on the welfare of this community.

1075
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: And you are a Trump supporter, have been a Trump supporter.

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01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: What if I say, I think Donald Trump's presidency is

1077
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 1: in trouble, both from the coronavirus response, whether you blame

1078
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 1: him or not, and from these things, these riots. That's

1079
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 1: a lot of chaos to happen in an election year.

1080
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 1: So he's a potentially coming up on a November election

1081
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: with fifty billion people unemployed in America's cities on fire.

1082
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: That's bad. Joe Biden is a crappy alternative. We need

1083
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 1: four more years of Trump. What if I say he's

1084
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 1: in trouble? Am I wrong? In my opinion? I would

1085
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 1: say that you are wrong. I think that right now,

1086
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 1: especially seeing what just occurred in the last couple of days,

1087
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 1: people aren't fed up. And there's a meme I believe

1088
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: on social media that said, congrats Democrat cities. You've had

1089
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,799
Speaker 1: the worst incidences of Corona. You have the worst riots.

1090
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 1: You know, these aren't coincidences. And I think the average

1091
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 1: hard working member of any of these communities wants to

1092
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: see a president like Donald Trump that's kicking button taking names.

1093
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:44,719
Speaker 1: What holds him back so from so far, really really

1094
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 1: really being against these protests Because I had someone said

1095
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: to me yesterday, he said, look, Trump is he's on

1096
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: his way to earning a higher percentage of the black

1097
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 1: vote than any Republican has in a long time, because

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01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: he's been frankly out standing for the community, has just

1099
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 1: been outstanding for it, right, And so a lot of

1100
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 1: this guy said to me, it's holding him back from

1101
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 1: cracking down because he doesn't want to look like he's

1102
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 1: got federal troops cracking down on black people. Well, I

1103
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 1: think most of these people, at least in my city,

1104
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 1: we're like the organizers seem to be Caucasian, and what

1105
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: I was hearing, what I'm hearing is that these Antifa

1106
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 1: Caucasians folks, we're paying the inner city black folks like

1107
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 1: thirty forty fifty dollars to go loot and Ryan what

1108
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 1: I would say to them, and then, this is a

1109
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 1: long answer to a short question, is be careful. Don't

1110
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 1: be a pond to DC bel either, because they're not

1111
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 1: going to be the ones stabell you out of jail.

1112
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 1: But having said that, you know, I even almost lost

1113
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 1: to check of your question because I'm just so upset

1114
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:47,759
Speaker 1: and so sad and so heartbroken by everything that's happened.

1115
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 1: But I'm sad. You don't know what to say, and

1116
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 1: I don't know how to answer your question. Keep your

1117
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 1: chin up. We're going to have you back on next

1118
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 1: week and get a status update on Aaron Elmore. Keep

1119
01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:59,799
Speaker 1: a chin up, you hear me. I'll be in Florida

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01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 1: net week and I'm staying there for a month. So

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01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 1: let's go to santist see you later. Thanks for having

1122
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 1: it later and hard they blame her there. Florida's sweet

1123
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: Florida's so nice. All right, hang on, I have to

1124
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 1: tell you about my weekend. The truth is this, We

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01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: as a nation have got to stop these things, and

1126
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: stop these things now. And the longer you let them

1127
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: go on, the more power they gain, and the harder

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01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 1: it is to stop them. Down the road. People are

1129
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: not going to get tired of looting free stuff. These

1130
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,799
Speaker 1: these rich suburban white kids who are going into town

1131
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 1: to have a little fun with a riot weekend, They're

1132
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 1: not gonna stop getting bored and going into town. These

1133
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: Antifa people who are obviously paid to do these things,

1134
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna keep getting paid to do these things. We

1135
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 1: are going to have to do things that make you

1136
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 1: uncomfortable to stop these It involves riot shields and batons

1137
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: and involves somebody probably getting hurt, hopefully not, but somebody's

1138
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 1: gonna have to get hurt. You must put this down

1139
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:38,799
Speaker 1: now before lots of people get hurt. The greatest mercy

1140
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: you could show both the rioters in America right now

1141
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 1: is to put this down viciously now, right now. Or

1142
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: you can keep dancing around it. There's a curfew, maybe,

1143
01:23:56,040 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 1: well kind of. It's only gonna get worse, only gonna

1144
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 1: get worse. The Jesse Kelly Show. This is a Jesse

1145
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: Kelly Show. Took the fam to the lake this weekend. Now,

1146
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 1: before you get in your mind that it was some

1147
01:24:53,280 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 1: fancy trip, it was a little in hinds, I probably

1148
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 1: should have tried to spend a little more money in

1149
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 1: hindsight that you see. Look, there's something about the water

1150
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 1: that lowers everybody's standards. I'm sure there's probably somebody has

1151
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: probably written a psychological book on this, But water lowers

1152
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: your standards. I'm not just talking about for women either,

1153
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 1: Quit Chris, but I mean clearly, I mean, have you

1154
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 1: ever been to a beach town? What do all beach

1155
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 1: towns have in common? Every one of them, every single

1156
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: one of them. They're all a little dirty. It's not fair.

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01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 1: Chris is out, and producer Chris is out. Unfair. And look,

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01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 1: I love a beach town. I love dirty. That's how

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01:25:56,240 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 1: I grew up. Well, not on beach but dirty. He's fine,

1160
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: but they're a little dirty. You go in that beach

1161
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:09,799
Speaker 1: town burger joint. We've got Galveston here. I live in Houston,

1162
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: so just south of us, we've got Galveston, little beach town.

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01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 1: Everybody goes down to Galveston says the same thing. Oh man,

1164
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 1: it's really fun, it's kind of dirty. You go in

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01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: uh beach side burger joint just went down for a

1166
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 1: little while with kids played on the beach. Kick backard

1167
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 1: or order a burger and a beer. Oh, they're gonna

1168
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna forget some of your order. Your order is

1169
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 1: going to take about two or three times as long

1170
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 1: as it should take. If you inform them that it

1171
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 1: took too long, you're probably gonna get a Oh okay,

1172
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 1: I'll go check on it. I guess do you want

1173
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 1: me to go check on it? You'll get that kind

1174
01:26:53,120 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 1: of thing. That's beach town lake life. It's just a

1175
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: smaller version of that. Lake life is a bunch of

1176
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 1: houses on the lake, some vacation rentals, sometimes permanent homes.

1177
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:17,799
Speaker 1: And you get on a boat and you cruise around

1178
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 1: a lake, especially a lake with a bunch of homes

1179
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 1: on it, and you'll see some beautiful homes, but some

1180
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 1: of them are just flat out run down, really run down.

1181
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 1: And we show up to this place, Chris, it looked

1182
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 1: a little better in the pictures. Look, woman, I'm not

1183
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,799
Speaker 1: perfect here. I can't pick the perfect house every time.

1184
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 1: I guess there's a reason of us on sale. Of

1185
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 1: course we show up. We show up, the front door

1186
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 1: will barely open. Now, my wife is only five two,

1187
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 1: but she's strong. I mean she's five two and small.

1188
01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 1: She was a gymnast, but she's strong because she works out.

1189
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,639
Speaker 1: She's a gymnast. She could not physically get the front

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01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:08,720
Speaker 1: door open. I had to twist the knob and slam

1191
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 1: my shoulder into it because it was so sticky. We

1192
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 1: get inside and there are mouse traps sitting on the

1193
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 1: windows sills. In the kitchen, there's flies everywhere. We start

1194
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 1: trying to organize the kitchen and yeah, everything's dirty. And

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01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 1: when I say everything's dirty, the wife pulls out a

1196
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 1: cookie sheet because she couldna start cooking something. It hasn't

1197
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 1: been cleaned. We opened up the silverware drawer or everything's dirty.

1198
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:51,600
Speaker 1: And we're thinking, okay, that's all right, we'll rough the toilets.

1199
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 1: All the toilet seats are doing that really loose thing

1200
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 1: where you know you sit. Oh yeah, the slide around

1201
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 1: the side thing. Chris, Oh, you know, somebody's probably gonna

1202
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:04,560
Speaker 1: just flat out fall off one of these. In the

1203
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 1: middle of the night. You walk out the potted plants

1204
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 1: are destroyed. It's just a disaster. But again, it's on

1205
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 1: the lake. So you walk through the house and you're thinking,

1206
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,600
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is a money pit, this is

1207
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,759
Speaker 1: a disaster. What if we do this is this is terrible,

1208
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 1: this is gonna bean And then then you walk out

1209
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 1: back and you think, oh, this is the greatest place ever.

1210
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 1: Let's pook it again next weekend. It's got this yard.

1211
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 1: It goes down to the water's edge where it has

1212
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 1: this sloping little concrete place where you can put in

1213
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 1: the kayaks and the kids are swimming around and it's

1214
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 1: deep and it's fun. It's just an overall wild time.

1215
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 1: But that's that goes back to my restaurant theory, does

1216
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 1: it not. It's always the same. Any of these restaurants

1217
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 1: they have out there, now there's a name for them.

1218
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 1: I think it's inappropriate, so I'm not read it on

1219
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:05,759
Speaker 1: the air. There's these restaurants where you have scantily clad

1220
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 1: young women serving the food and they're super popular and

1221
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 1: people pack these things. There's a reason the food is

1222
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:22,480
Speaker 1: always crappy, because it can be because the restaurant operates

1223
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 1: like any other business. They operate on a you know,

1224
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 1: on a profit motive, and let's see I can. I

1225
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 1: am looking at my profit loss sheet and if I

1226
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 1: buy fresh food every single month, if I buy all

1227
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 1: this fresh food and hire a great chef, then my

1228
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 1: food costs will be one hundred a month. But if

1229
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 1: I go with kind of crappy food and a really

1230
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 1: crappy chef, then my food costs can be fifty a month. Well,

1231
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 1: which one should I do? Well? I'd like to have

1232
01:30:55,080 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 1: the quality food. Well, let's be honest, we have hot waitresses.

1233
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 1: This restaurant's going to be packed no matter what. Why

1234
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 1: would I invest in all the fresh food? Why would

1235
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:13,680
Speaker 1: I spend the money on the good chef when I

1236
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 1: don't have to. It's the exact same concept with the

1237
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 1: restaurants that have an amazing location right out. Oh we're

1238
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,799
Speaker 1: gonna go to this restaurant. It's right on the ocean.

1239
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 1: People get excited about that. The wife will find one

1240
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 1: of these, should get excited about that. You know, friends, Hey,

1241
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 1: we're going for a couple of dinner. So and SO

1242
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 1: found a restaurant. It overlooks the water. And you know what,

1243
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 1: I try sometimes, depending on my mood, I try not

1244
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 1: to burst everyone's bubble. But the first thing I think when, oh,

1245
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: this restaurant's right on the water, you know what, I

1246
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 1: think food's gonna suck. Why is the food gonna suck?

1247
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 1: Because the food can suck because they know people are

1248
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 1: going to flock to that restaurant to eat on the water.

1249
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: They're going to eat on the water, and people are

1250
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 1: not going to care that the food sucked. They're not.

1251
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 1: It's just a fact, Chris. You know, it's a fact.

1252
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 1: You make care, I make care. In general, the public

1253
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 1: does not care. Obviously, there are exceptions, idiot, I know

1254
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 1: there are exceptions too, But exactly right, you said you

1255
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 1: know one place, you know one place. I could wait,

1256
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 1: everybody knows one exception, but everybody can name thirty that sucks.

1257
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 1: It's just it's the nature of man. And that's why

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Speaker 1: you can have a lake house with this choice property

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01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 1: and this amazing doc and you can let your lake

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Speaker 1: house go to complete crap because you can. That's just

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Speaker 1: the fact. That's just a fact. Now, the good news

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Speaker 1: is my buddy who we went out there with, he

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01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 1: had an uncle who lived on the lake. Lives on

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Speaker 1: the lake, I should say, and has a pond pontoon

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01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 1: boat comes and picks us up on the pontoon boat.

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Speaker 1: Now I am thirty eight years old. I am no

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01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 1: longer twenty years old. Therefore, when I get picked up

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Speaker 1: on a pontoon boat, I'm all, oh, I hope it

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Speaker 1: has comfortable chairs. You know, when you're when you're twenty

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Speaker 1: years old, comedy cakes. Can we fit on there? Like

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Speaker 1: an idiot? I bet it says capacities twenty. I bet

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Speaker 1: we can get forty. That's that's how you think when

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Speaker 1: you're twenty. When you're thirty eight with kids, just make

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01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 1: sure I have a comfy seat. Oh, not too much sun,

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01:33:52,200 --> 01:34:07,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to burn. Hey, I'm sick. Is he

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01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 1: smarter than everyone who knows? Does he think so? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: The Jesse Kelly Shaw. There are a few things that

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01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 1: make me sharper in any given day than a good

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01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:26,679
Speaker 1: night's sleep. It's just it's just hard to put into

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01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 1: words the difference it is when I have eight hours

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01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 1: asleep and when I have four hours asleep or less.

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01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:35,719
Speaker 1: I mean, look, when I don't get that kind of sleep,

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01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:39,760
Speaker 1: my mind slows down, my mouth slows down, which, as

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01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 1: you can imagine, is a problem in my job. My

1285
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 1: physical body feels worse. Your body needs the rest. Stop

1286
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:51,519
Speaker 1: all these other cheap, oh over the counter solutions you

1287
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 1: get at the local pharmacy and start targeting the actual

1288
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 1: reason you can't fall asleep, those thoughts that race through

1289
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 1: your head. Go to try ebb dot com slash jesse

1290
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 1: and buy an EBB Sleep. You put it on. It

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01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 1: calms your thoughts down, it puts you to sleep. And

1292
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 1: if you use the code Jesse at check out, you

1293
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 1: get twenty five bucks off. Go get your eb sleep today.

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01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 1: Try ebb dot com slash jesse. All right, before we

1295
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 1: get to the debilitating injury, I came back with from

1296
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 1: the Lake, we have to get to Medal of Honor Monday,

1297
01:35:56,040 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 1: because before we honor me an American hero, I think

1298
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 1: it's important we find a fellow American hero, Chris honor him.

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01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 1: I'm obviously joking because people will know this story. They

1300
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 1: made a movie about this story, and it's just man,

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01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:21,600
Speaker 1: I love this one. I'm talking about Gary Gordon. He

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01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 1: was born in Lincoln, Maine. He was United States Army,

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01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 1: he was Delta Force and he was in Mogadishue when

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01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:37,480
Speaker 1: it all went to crap and we had down helicopter

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01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 1: pilots and these down helicopter pilots were surrounded by animals,

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01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:48,559
Speaker 1: and well, you know what, Here's what Gary Gordon did.

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Speaker 1: Master Sergeant Gordon, United States Army, distinguished himself by actions

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01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 1: above and beyond the call of duty. On the third

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Speaker 1: of October nineteen ninety three, while serving as sniper's team leader,

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Speaker 1: United States Army Special Operations Command with Task Force Ranger

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01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 1: in Mogadishu, Somalia, Master Sergeant Gordon's sniper team provided precision

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01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 1: fires from the lead helicopter during an assault and at

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01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 1: two helicopter crash sites while subjected to intense automatic weapons

1314
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 1: and rocket propelled grenade fires. When Master Sergeant Gordon learned

1315
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 1: that ground forces were not immediately available to secure the

1316
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 1: second crash site, he and another sniper unhesitatingly volunteer to

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01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:38,599
Speaker 1: be inserted to protect the fourth critically wounded personnel, despite

1318
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 1: being well aware of the growing number of enemy personnel

1319
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 1: closing in on the site. After a third request to

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01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 1: be inserted, remember third requests to be inserted. After his

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01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:53,879
Speaker 1: third request to be inserted, Master Sergeant Gordon received permission

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01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 1: to perform his volunteer mission. When debris and the enemy

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01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 1: ground fire at the site caused them to abort the

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01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 1: first attempt. Master Sergeant Gordon was inserted one hundred meters

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01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 1: south of the crash site, equipped with only his sniper

1326
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 1: rifle in a pistol. Master Sergeant Gordon and his fellow sniper,

1327
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 1: while under intense small arms fire from the enemy, fought

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01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 1: their way through a dense maze of shanties and shacks

1329
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:24,679
Speaker 1: to reach the critically injured crew members. Master Sergeant Gordon

1330
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 1: immediately pulled the pilot and other crew members from the aircraft,

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01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 1: establishing a perimeter which placed him and his fellow sniper

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01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 1: in the most vulnerable position. Master Sergeant Gordon used his

1333
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:40,640
Speaker 1: long range rifle and side armed to kill an undetermined

1334
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 1: number of attackers until he depleted his ammunition. Master Sergeant

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01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 1: Gordon then went back to the wreckage, recovering some of

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01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 1: the cruise weapons and ammunition, despite the fact that he

1337
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 1: was critically low on ammunition. He provided some of it

1338
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 1: to the dazed pilot and then radioed for help. Master

1339
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 1: Sergean and Gordon continue to travel the perimeter protecting the

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01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:06,560
Speaker 1: down crew. After his team member was fatally wounded and

1341
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 1: his own rifle ammunition exhausted. Master Sergeant Gordon returned to

1342
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 1: the wreckage, recovering a rifle with the last five rounds

1343
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 1: of ammunition and gave it to the pilot with the

1344
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 1: words good luck. Then, armed only with his pistol, Master

1345
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:25,679
Speaker 1: Sergeant Gordon continued to fight until he was fatally wounded.

1346
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:31,360
Speaker 1: His actions saved the pilot's life. Master Sergeant Gordon's extraordinary,

1347
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 1: extraordinary heroism and devotion to duty. We're in keeping with

1348
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 1: the highest standards of military service and reflect great credit

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01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 1: upon him, his unit, and the United States Army. I

1350
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 1: know you've seen that movie Black Hawk Down. If you haven't,

1351
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 1: you probably should. Let me just say this, volunteering to

1352
01:39:56,360 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 1: do things like that is something special. It's something amazing.

1353
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 1: That's the American spirit that lives on. Guys like that

1354
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 1: make this country go. And I find it inspiration. You

1355
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 1: know who else I find inspirational? Chris? Me me because

1356
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 1: while I was at the lake this morning this weekend,

1357
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:29,960
Speaker 1: just like Master Sergeant Gordon, what Chris, I was critically injured.

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01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 1: All right, we take the pond tomb boat after they

1359
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:37,760
Speaker 1: pick us up, and we're cruising around the lake and

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01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:42,679
Speaker 1: guess what, it was no joke out there? The sun

1361
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:44,639
Speaker 1: was getting extra hot, and I was getting a little

1362
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 1: sunburn a couple of times got some water in my eyes,

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01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:53,479
Speaker 1: just like in Mogadishu. After we were done swimming. At

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01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 1: one point, I got water up my nose, wasn't sure

1365
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:58,720
Speaker 1: if I was gonna make it, pulled out of it

1366
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 1: and kept on fighting. And then in the heat of battle,

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01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 1: we chose to drop anchor and go swimming off the

1368
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 1: back end of this thing because the water was still

1369
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:14,040
Speaker 1: pleasant and anything, what Chris and anything could have happened

1370
01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 1: in the water. I mean, who knows there could be

1371
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,920
Speaker 1: nile crocodiles in this lake. I don't know. Just how

1372
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 1: do I know how animals migrate? You know, I'm not

1373
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 1: a zoologist, all right. I didn't know if there were

1374
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 1: piranha in there, but I dove in anyway, and we

1375
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 1: were swimming, and I was, you know, looking around, making

1376
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:33,680
Speaker 1: sure I was ready to fight off any enemy, and

1377
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 1: the coast was clear. Eventually it was time to go,

1378
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:39,720
Speaker 1: So I swim over to the ladder, and I want

1379
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:42,479
Speaker 1: to lead the way up the ladder, because that's what

1380
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 1: warriors do, is we lead the way. And I make

1381
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 1: the critical, critical error of grabbing the ladder first with

1382
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:54,519
Speaker 1: my hand before I put my foot on it. It's

1383
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 1: one of those ladders that goes halfway under the water. Understand,

1384
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 1: it's not one's solid piece of metal halfway up it.

1385
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:05,640
Speaker 1: It's two different pieces of metal to give it a

1386
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 1: little bit of a hinge. What happens when you put

1387
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 1: your foot on the very bottom of a ladder it

1388
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 1: pushes in. What happens to that little hinge point, It

1389
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:24,920
Speaker 1: pinches on the inside. I grab it, just like small

1390
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:28,280
Speaker 1: arms fire. I grab it and then put my foot

1391
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 1: on it. The ladder then pinches around my ring finger

1392
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 1: on my left hand and tears a chunk of flesh

1393
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 1: from my hand. I do not mean gives me a

1394
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:44,000
Speaker 1: little skin tear. I mean tears a chunk of flesh

1395
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 1: from my hand from the very end of my finger.

1396
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:50,639
Speaker 1: I'm about to show Chris and make him dry. Heave

1397
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 1: in in the commercial break because at this point you

1398
01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 1: can still see inside of my finger, and it's gruesome.

1399
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:01,680
Speaker 1: Now I get on the boat and just like a

1400
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:05,000
Speaker 1: medal of honor winter, I'm holding my hand and weeping,

1401
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:09,560
Speaker 1: and the wife asked me what's wrong, to which I

1402
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 1: obviously do. The guy I think I walked at the

1403
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:13,439
Speaker 1: back of the boat, and I said nothing, I'm fine,

1404
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:17,760
Speaker 1: and I don't want to look because I'm worried I'm

1405
01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:19,720
Speaker 1: gonna need stitches and that's gonna be a huge pain

1406
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 1: at the lake. And I looked down and blood is

1407
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 1: just dripping off the end of my end. I don't

1408
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:27,559
Speaker 1: mean like pulling a little bit, just flat out dripping

1409
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 1: off the end of my finger. And I'm thinking, oh crap.

1410
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:34,640
Speaker 1: But no, it all worked out fine. I got some

1411
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 1: blood on his boat, which I felt bad about, so

1412
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:39,439
Speaker 1: I had to bend down and I'm cleaning the blood

1413
01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:41,400
Speaker 1: off the end of the boat. And then I had

1414
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:43,759
Speaker 1: to ruin. Get this, Chris, this is the real casualty

1415
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 1: and this whole thing my favorite casual T shirt. You know,

1416
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:50,360
Speaker 1: I don't you know. I don't own many T shirts

1417
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 1: and when you're at the lake, you only wear one

1418
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:54,720
Speaker 1: for three days. Because I don't really bother with hygiene,

1419
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 1: I wore one T shirt. I had to wrap my

1420
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 1: finger because we didn't have any band aids on the boat.

1421
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 1: I had to wrap my finger in the T shirt

1422
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:05,559
Speaker 1: to keep from getting more blood on his boat. As

1423
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:08,519
Speaker 1: we went back, pulled it off and it looked like

1424
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 1: I had cut somebody's head. Off and held it in

1425
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 1: the deck on shirt. The wife had me throw it

1426
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:15,840
Speaker 1: away right away. It sucked, I know, man, I know.

1427
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:18,760
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna sit here and brag to you

1428
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 1: about myself. You all know I would never do something

1429
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:26,640
Speaker 1: like that, not ever. But I'm playing hurt today, the

1430
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:30,519
Speaker 1: end of my finger throbbing. And you think you would

1431
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:32,719
Speaker 1: think I wouldn't be able to do a radio show

1432
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:36,679
Speaker 1: with a hurt finger, and most most mortal went mortal

1433
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:42,599
Speaker 1: men probably couldn't. I can, though I can't. All right,

1434
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 1: we have a bit of audio you need to hear.

1435
01:44:46,520 --> 01:45:10,000
Speaker 1: Hang them. You don't know how to take on the irs,

1436
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 1: neither do I. It's look that are we expected to

1437
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 1: do that? No? No, we're expected to live our lives,

1438
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:17,800
Speaker 1: try to make a living, try to feed the fam.

1439
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 1: You know. But at some point in time, maybe you've

1440
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:24,439
Speaker 1: screwed up big time. It happens. Maybe you ran into

1441
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 1: some things you weren't expecting, maybe they screwed up, whatever

1442
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Speaker 1: the reason. If you owe ten thousand dollars or more

1443
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 1: to the irs, you need a professional, a professional to

1444
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Speaker 1: fight for you, paramount tax relief. You know some of

1445
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Speaker 1: the things they can do for you. Did you know

1446
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Speaker 1: there's a chance you qualify for the new CNC tax program,

1447
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Speaker 1: and if you do, it'll allow you to stop making

1448
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Speaker 1: payments to the IRS while you're in the program. I

1449
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 1: bet you didn't know that paramount tax relief, dude, Give

1450
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:55,680
Speaker 1: them a call and see what kind of solutions they

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Speaker 1: have for you. Eight hundred eight one six eight seven

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Speaker 1: forty nine. Eight hundred eight one six eight seven forty nine.

1453
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 1: Stop stressing about that, Irs, Bool, get a professional and

1454
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:21,559
Speaker 1: do something about it. All right, we're stepping away from

1455
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:25,000
Speaker 1: all the ugliness right now. Actually, I take that back.

1456
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 1: Let's dive into some ugliness before we get into everything

1457
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 1: else with Carol Roth, host of the Great Roth Effect podcast. Carol,

1458
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:37,280
Speaker 1: you're a Chicago lady. If you wouldn't mind please elaborate

1459
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 1: what you're seeing in Chicago before we get to all

1460
01:46:40,040 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 1: the market stuff, jobless stuff, all the other craziness. Chicago

1461
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:47,640
Speaker 1: is an epic disaster, Jesse. And not to say that

1462
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 1: Chicago is not always an epic disaster, but this is

1463
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 1: really reached new proportions all throughout the city, whether it's

1464
01:46:56,560 --> 01:47:00,679
Speaker 1: in the downtown loop area or even on the South

1465
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:05,600
Speaker 1: and West sides, which are predominantly African American communities. We

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Speaker 1: have seen rioting, we have seen looting, we have seen destruction.

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Speaker 1: We've also seen peaceful protests, but a lot of that

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Speaker 1: has been hijacked by people with obviously very different agendas

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01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:24,920
Speaker 1: and taking advantage of the situation. And there has just

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01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 1: been utter destruction, which on top of the tough time

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01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 1: the city was already having from the very strict lockdown rules.

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Speaker 1: It it just really seems like we're living in the

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01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:41,719
Speaker 1: twilight zone. Are you leaving? I know you're a Chicago

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01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:46,360
Speaker 1: everybody knows. I love Chicago. It's one of my favorite cities.

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Speaker 1: Obviously does a bunch of problems, like most of our

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01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:50,639
Speaker 1: major cities too, but I love it. Are you Are

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01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:53,200
Speaker 1: you staying? What are you doing? So it's funny. For

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01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 1: the first time ever, my husband and I had the

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01:47:56,640 --> 01:48:00,760
Speaker 1: conversation this weekend, is you know, is this really worth it?

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01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:04,360
Speaker 1: You know, and whether that means going out to something

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01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 1: thing that's more in the suburbs or going to a

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01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:10,080
Speaker 1: different location. But then you know, we kind of run

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01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 1: through the list of locations and the reality is that

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01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 1: across the country, everybody was seeing this happened, and you know,

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01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 1: you can name the city. Um so then it becomes

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01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 1: a question of where do you go and what does

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01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:26,639
Speaker 1: that mean? But for the first time ever that well

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01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 1: what we we played around with it, like, you know,

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01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 1: a little bit, but you know, in terms of a

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01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 1: serious like, wow, this is really really bad. This was

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01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 1: the first time that we had that that sort of

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01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:40,240
Speaker 1: looking at each other going this is really really bad.

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01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:43,720
Speaker 1: All right, Carol, we're stepping away from the ugliness of that,

1494
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:47,280
Speaker 1: and we're moving on to other ugliness. Yes, ugly ugliness

1495
01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 1: about Jesse. Yes, it's just all kinds of ugly on

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01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:53,960
Speaker 1: the show today. Obviously myself excluded, and your Herol and

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01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 1: you as well, but mostly you. Now, um, I've asked

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01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 1: you this question before, but I get asked it all

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01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:07,280
Speaker 1: the time. Now. I feel like people get so confused

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01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:11,160
Speaker 1: about the stock market and unemployment. They can't merge those

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01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:14,799
Speaker 1: two worlds. We have easily fifty sixty million Americans unemployed,

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01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:17,400
Speaker 1: forties the official number. Everybody knows it's way way higher

1503
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 1: than that. The stock market's not doing bad, so Americans

1504
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 1: wake up. They get on their four oh one case

1505
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:25,479
Speaker 1: smart app on their phone. They see the stocks are

1506
01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 1: all right, and they think are the economy is fine?

1507
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:32,320
Speaker 1: Carol is the economy fine. No, the economy is not fine.

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01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 1: And this is confounding to me, is somebody who has

1509
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 1: studied and participated in markets for her entire career and

1510
01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 1: somewhat even before that. The stock market continues to baffle

1511
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 1: me in ways that I have never seen before. What

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01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:54,880
Speaker 1: we're hearing from people is, well, the market is forward looking.

1513
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:58,519
Speaker 1: They look into the future, and they're expecting that these

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01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 1: all these people who are unemployee, that that's a temporary thing,

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01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:04,439
Speaker 1: and so if we look out, you know, twelve months

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01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:06,439
Speaker 1: or eighteen months, things are going to be fine, and

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01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:10,320
Speaker 1: that's what they're looking at. That being said, I just

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01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:14,720
Speaker 1: find that hard to believe. And I think that right now,

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01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:18,160
Speaker 1: if you look at the earnings that have been reported

1520
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 1: by companies, we've only gotten the first quarter, and obviously

1521
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:26,559
Speaker 1: the destruction from the lockdowns was not really showing up

1522
01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:29,560
Speaker 1: in that. I think that when we finish out this

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01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 1: second quarter of the year and they start to see

1524
01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:38,840
Speaker 1: those numbers tangibly, my gut says that everyone's going to go, oh,

1525
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:42,880
Speaker 1: this is much worse than we're expecting. But that hasn't

1526
01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:47,800
Speaker 1: happened yet. There's a lot of euphoria. Euphoria we've talked

1527
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 1: about on the show before. The Federal Reserve has been

1528
01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:54,920
Speaker 1: propping up the stock market with their own behavior, and

1529
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:58,640
Speaker 1: between all of this, everybody on Wall Street is going, well, yeah, no,

1530
01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 1: this is fantastic, But it is not a reflection of

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01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 1: what is going on in the broader economy, both from

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01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:10,640
Speaker 1: an unemployment standpoint and also just from a small business standpoint,

1533
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 1: the backbone of the economy half of the economy. We

1534
01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:17,400
Speaker 1: don't know how many of those businesses are going to

1535
01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:20,839
Speaker 1: stay closed permanently or just not be able to survive

1536
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 1: within the next twelve to eighteen months. Carol, I have

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01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:27,679
Speaker 1: a question about what you just said, though, and that's

1538
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:32,120
Speaker 1: how is that humanly possible? Now, you obviously are a

1539
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:35,720
Speaker 1: highly educated, former fancy banking person. I would expect you

1540
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:38,920
Speaker 1: to know. But I'm an idiot and I know, so

1541
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:41,720
Speaker 1: how could the smart people on Wall Street all of

1542
01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 1: a sudden be shocked that things are going bad? How

1543
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:46,960
Speaker 1: can that? How can that be possible? These are all

1544
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:52,880
Speaker 1: intelligent people, Well, they're not all intelligent people. There are people.

1545
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 1: There's there's common sense, and then there's you know, other

1546
01:51:56,360 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 1: kinds of dollars and cents, and they don't always merge together.

1547
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 1: And so, as I said, I think that there's a

1548
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:06,560
Speaker 1: fantasy that's being perpetuated because I think a lot of

1549
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 1: the people who participate in the stock market don't really

1550
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 1: have a good grasp on reality. A lot of these

1551
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 1: people are located on the coasts. They're not seeing what's

1552
01:52:15,040 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 1: going on in the rest of the country. And you know,

1553
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 1: obviously we've seen this story before, not just with the

1554
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 1: stock market, but politically and culturally. Those people don't have

1555
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 1: the best pulse on what's going on across the country.

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01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:30,280
Speaker 1: So they're definitely people who are sounding the alarm bells.

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01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:34,599
Speaker 1: It's just that, broadly speaking, you know, they haven't been

1558
01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 1: listened to. And as I said, we also have the

1559
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:41,639
Speaker 1: Federal Reserve who is intervening with monetary policy. They've kept

1560
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 1: interest rates artificially low. They're going in and they're buying

1561
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:49,639
Speaker 1: up debt in the stock market, and all of these

1562
01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:55,120
Speaker 1: activities are falsely inflating the price of the stock market.

1563
01:52:55,360 --> 01:53:01,160
Speaker 1: And that's something that can't last forever last. You know, Jesse,

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01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 1: if I had that answer, I've been making a lot

1565
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:06,080
Speaker 1: of money. We wouldn't be having this discussion right now.

1566
01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:08,920
Speaker 1: I'd be on the beach in Hawaii or something, and

1567
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 1: you're sipping in my tie tie. Well, Carol, what do

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01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 1: I do? I've got a four oh one k am

1569
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:16,800
Speaker 1: I cashing in my chips and stuff in dollar bills

1570
01:53:16,840 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 1: in a mannais jar. You are talking to your financial

1571
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 1: advisor and you're talking about creating some protection for your accounts,

1572
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:30,519
Speaker 1: some getting putting a little bit more defensive kinds of

1573
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:33,200
Speaker 1: things into your portfolio, maybe a little bit more gold,

1574
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:36,640
Speaker 1: maybe some treasury, some things that give you some protection

1575
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:40,680
Speaker 1: to the downside, so that if the stock market does, um,

1576
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:44,320
Speaker 1: you know, fall by the wayside, so to speak, that

1577
01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:47,600
Speaker 1: you have some securities in your portfolio to balance that

1578
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 1: and ride that out. Now, I'm an optimistic person, Jesse.

1579
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:52,600
Speaker 1: I know you know that about me. So in the

1580
01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:55,760
Speaker 1: long term, if you have a long term horizon, you

1581
01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:58,960
Speaker 1: have to be optimistic and bullish on the country. But

1582
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:01,720
Speaker 1: you if you're getting most a retirement, you want to

1583
01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:04,640
Speaker 1: be having a discussion with your financial advisor right about now,

1584
01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:08,839
Speaker 1: Carol Roth The Roth Effect Podcast, What's on the agenda

1585
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:12,800
Speaker 1: this week? On the agenda this week? That's a really

1586
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:16,320
Speaker 1: good question. I'd like trying to see straight right now.

1587
01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:19,559
Speaker 1: So like, yeah, I haven't even figured out what I'm

1588
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:22,360
Speaker 1: having for lunch yet today. Jesse, all right, go do

1589
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:29,200
Speaker 1: your thing. Appreciate you, Carol, all right, take care. It's

1590
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:33,240
Speaker 1: always a tough, tough call, isn't it? Chris? What do

1591
01:54:33,320 --> 01:54:36,240
Speaker 1: you do with your money? I've I mean, people asked

1592
01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 1: me all the time, because let's be honest, I'm Jesse

1593
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 1: the Oracle Kelly. People ask me what should I do?

1594
01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:43,560
Speaker 1: What are you doing with your money? Said? A buddy

1595
01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:45,360
Speaker 1: asked me the other day, He said, Jesse, what do

1596
01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 1: you do with your money right now? To which I,

1597
01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:51,000
Speaker 1: obviously because I'm his friend, responded, putting it in your

1598
01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 1: mom's g string. Ha ha. He wrote me back a

1599
01:54:57,320 --> 01:54:59,960
Speaker 1: really nasty message with cuss words in it and everything.

1600
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 1: It was. It was hilarious. It was hilarious. What, Chris,

1601
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:08,800
Speaker 1: what else are we supposed to do at this point

1602
01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 1: in time? And what else can we do but laugh?

1603
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:14,360
Speaker 1: There's nothing else we can do but laugh. If you

1604
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 1: missed any any part of the Jesse Kelly Show, We're

1605
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 1: not done yet. But if you missed any part, you

1606
01:55:20,440 --> 01:55:24,760
Speaker 1: can catch the entire thing on iHeart, Google, Spotify. You

1607
01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 1: can catch the whole thing on iTunes. Subscribe on iTunes

1608
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:32,840
Speaker 1: leave a five star review, talk about how handsome I

1609
01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 1: am like everyone else is in the reviews because it's

1610
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:39,920
Speaker 1: so funny. My mom got a hold of them and

1611
01:55:40,160 --> 01:56:21,200
Speaker 1: she said, son, she was so disappointed. People have been

1612
01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:25,360
Speaker 1: asking me what's happening right now, and let me try

1613
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:27,920
Speaker 1: to explain to you exactly what's happening as best I

1614
01:56:28,040 --> 01:56:33,960
Speaker 1: can with the segment I have left one. This is

1615
01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:40,800
Speaker 1: not only about police brutality. It's not only about the

1616
01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:47,160
Speaker 1: murder of George Floyd. This is in many ways a

1617
01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:51,840
Speaker 1: long time coming. When you have incidents like this that

1618
01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 1: are this massive, it means things have been building for

1619
01:56:56,600 --> 01:56:58,640
Speaker 1: a long time. So what do you have involved in

1620
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:03,520
Speaker 1: these exact protests. Well, here's what you have. You have, Yes,

1621
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:07,800
Speaker 1: you have Antifa paid bust In brought in, that's what

1622
01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:14,760
Speaker 1: you have. You also have, not necessarily always part of Antifa.

1623
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 1: You have bored, wealthy, suburban white kids who want to

1624
01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:24,480
Speaker 1: feel involved in something, because everybody needs to feel involved

1625
01:57:24,760 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 1: in something. Everybody needs to feel challenges. So these riots

1626
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:33,120
Speaker 1: become many vacation destinations, and so they go into town.

1627
01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:37,000
Speaker 1: That's part of it. You have inner city black kids,

1628
01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:44,320
Speaker 1: many of them operating appropriately, protesting peacefully, you have inter

1629
01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:47,840
Speaker 1: city black kids, many of them using this as an

1630
01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:51,960
Speaker 1: opportunity to commit crime. All these are part of the riots.

1631
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't know why any of this is supposed to

1632
01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:56,240
Speaker 1: be controversial. All this is the truth. This is all

1633
01:57:56,280 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 1: the truth. But understand this. It doesn't help that we

1634
01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:07,240
Speaker 1: just locked down for two months and put fifty million

1635
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:14,879
Speaker 1: Americans out of work, anger building, locking down, mental illness,

1636
01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 1: increasing alcohol use, increasing drug abuse, increasing joblessness, poverty increasing.

1637
01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:24,880
Speaker 1: You're building up a powder cake. But wait, there's more.

1638
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:35,000
Speaker 1: It also doesn't help that we have had for years

1639
01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:44,800
Speaker 1: now a major, major, major Balkanization of America, a major fracturing,

1640
01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:50,320
Speaker 1: and it has been it has been this. Leftists for

1641
01:58:50,880 --> 01:58:57,320
Speaker 1: decades now, but especially recently, have been flocking to American cities,

1642
01:58:57,680 --> 01:59:02,920
Speaker 1: major cities, while people on the right, people's center right,

1643
01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:07,400
Speaker 1: have been fleeing major American cities. And get this too,

1644
01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:12,480
Speaker 1: as long as you're focused on the police a racist narrative,

1645
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:20,440
Speaker 1: you realize all these cities are leftist cities, and almost

1646
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:25,040
Speaker 1: all of these police departments have spent years trying to

1647
01:59:25,160 --> 01:59:30,280
Speaker 1: do the woke policing thing, bending over backwards to make

1648
01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:34,720
Speaker 1: sure we're policing, but we're doing it really intolerantly. You

1649
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:39,280
Speaker 1: get that right. This is not the nineteen sixties South,

1650
01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:45,360
Speaker 1: where there's a system in place designed to oppress black people,

1651
01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:51,480
Speaker 1: very much the opposite. That's where these things are taking place.

1652
01:59:52,480 --> 01:59:56,600
Speaker 1: You have a real fracturing of America, and what you

1653
01:59:56,720 --> 02:00:04,600
Speaker 1: are witnessing is a fracturing of America. The ending the

1654
02:00:06,400 --> 02:00:12,200
Speaker 1: events of the fracturing of America. You have these leftists,

1655
02:00:12,680 --> 02:00:16,680
Speaker 1: Democrat run hell holes that have been Democrat run hell

1656
02:00:16,720 --> 02:00:20,200
Speaker 1: holes for a long time because they're all run on

1657
02:00:20,360 --> 02:00:25,280
Speaker 1: Democrat policies. The poverty only gets worse, the ghettos only

1658
02:00:25,360 --> 02:00:33,760
Speaker 1: get worse. Everything gets worse under Democrat rule, everything, absolutely everything.

1659
02:00:36,360 --> 02:00:40,120
Speaker 1: And now not only are these things packed full of leftists,

1660
02:00:40,480 --> 02:00:43,600
Speaker 1: they're packed with a bunch of unarmed citizens and a

1661
02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:46,680
Speaker 1: bunch of poor people who've watched their standard of living

1662
02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:52,320
Speaker 1: actually go down because of Democrat run policies for decades. Essentially,

1663
02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:56,400
Speaker 1: you have a powder keg, and that's why they're blowing

1664
02:00:56,520 --> 02:01:00,480
Speaker 1: up while rural America. If you live anywhere in rural America,

1665
02:01:00,600 --> 02:01:02,920
Speaker 1: what's your last week been like? It's been like every

1666
02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:06,880
Speaker 1: other dag on week, quiet, peaceful cup of coffee on

1667
02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:10,560
Speaker 1: the porch, But here's the problem with what we're facing now,

1668
02:01:13,160 --> 02:01:16,320
Speaker 1: and this is potentially a major problem, and I really

1669
02:01:16,440 --> 02:01:21,960
Speaker 1: hope these things stop before this happens. They're letting the

1670
02:01:22,080 --> 02:01:26,600
Speaker 1: cities burn. In many places, they're flat out surrendering the precincts.

1671
02:01:27,200 --> 02:01:30,440
Speaker 1: And unless you stop these, they don't stop. And unless

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Speaker 1: you stop them, they're going to spill something we really

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Speaker 1: haven't seen before in American politics, in the history of

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Speaker 1: American riots, as them spilling into the burbs, into rural America.

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Speaker 1: And that, my friends, is going to be a very, very,

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Speaker 1: very big deal, because if these things spill into the burbs,

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Speaker 1: somebody's going to die. I do not like saying that,

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Speaker 1: but the true is this. Once you spill into the burbs,

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Speaker 1: you're not running into a bunch of unarmed people in

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Speaker 1: the cities. You're running into a whole bunch of people

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Speaker 1: with weapons. My word, and my little neighborhood. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: imagine a group of looters trying to storm into my neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: It would be it would be over quickly, very quickly.

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Speaker 1: People are protecting their wives and kids. Woof, And I

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Speaker 1: gigantic area of exposure in every single family, when your

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Speaker 1: somebody actually at the Internet service provider can see it.

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Speaker 1: It's a big deal. Start taking that part of your

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Speaker 1: in this country had better step up, politician, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and stop these things now. This gets ugly now, not

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Speaker 1: as if it hasn't already been really really ugly. The

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Speaker 1: burbs rural America does not look like American cities. Put

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Speaker 1: down this problem now, right now, before it gets any worse.

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Speaker 1: This should have been put down days ago. Do you

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Speaker 1: think it's an accident. It's spreading. It's spreading because we

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Speaker 1: tried to pussyfoot our way through the first couple days

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Speaker 1: of it. You know it's most responsible for all this crap,

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Speaker 1: that idiot mayor of Minneapolis who just started abandoning things

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Speaker 1: when this thing began. Oh, sure, you can have the

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Speaker 1: police precinct more on. All right, if you missed any

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Speaker 1: part of the show, It's on Google, iHeart Spotify, it's

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Speaker 1: on iTunes. Go ahead and subscribe. You can email me.

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Speaker 1: I read every single one of them. I can't email

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Speaker 1: you back most of the time. I get far too many,

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Speaker 1: But email me Jesse at Jesse Kelly Show dot com.

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Speaker 1: Jesse at Jesse Kelly show dot com. We'll be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: That's all. This is a Jesse Kelly show. Your holster

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Speaker 1: and I get that the holsters not the sexy part

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Speaker 1: your weapon and your ammunition. You want to talk about

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Speaker 1: your safety training. I want to talk about how you

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Speaker 1: did at the range. I'll look at my groups. I

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Speaker 1: was doing these failure drills today, and all that stuff

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Speaker 1: is really important. I mean really really important. I'm not

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Speaker 1: discounting that, but I've known so many people who do

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Speaker 1: all those things. They take all the necessary steps, and

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Speaker 1: then they carry with a holster they bought from a

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Speaker 1: big box hunting store that was made a thousand at

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Speaker 1: off