1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: When I played in the Olympics and Bill had you 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: guys stop training camp to watch me and the team 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: room for him to do that because I was one 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: of the guys on the team and it was important 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: and to stop training camp to do that, and to 6 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: have everybody wear the Ebner shirts out there, like Stevie 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: b Made and mister Kraft support just like the Patriots 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: organization and that brotherhood and support like first class. What 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: was that like. 10 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: When he did like one of those movie things. Yeah, 11 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: what I mean where he got a bunch of food 12 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: and yeah, we all sat in there and we watched it. 13 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: No one knew it the for watching. Really Welcome to 14 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack and Kyler, 15 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: and we are on a mission to find the greatest 16 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: game of all time. And on today's episode, we are 17 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: covering the twenty sixteen Summer Olympics rugby seven's team and 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: their journey with Patriots special teams, Legend Ohio State Buck Eye, 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: and stud rugby player Nate Ebner. We get into talking 20 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: the time I may have peed my pants. 21 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: You spilled it so hard that you collapsed and I 22 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: just rumber. You say, I'm kissing my pan Do you 23 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 1: remember that. 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: What it's like to have to ask Bill Belichick, Hey, 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: I gotta go try to play the Olympics. 26 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: I was like waiting for his response, and right away though, he. 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: Was like, which NFL players should play rugby? I think 28 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahon's be a god rugby player. 29 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: Oh, Patrick mahons can't run. 30 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: And then we wrap it up by filling out an 31 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: Olympic team using what I think bias best athletes in 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: the world NFL football players sticking around for the very 33 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: end of this episode, Let's go. 34 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: Games of Names. The production of iHeartRadio. 35 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: August twenty sixteen, Theodoro Stadium, Rio with De Jennero Grazilli. 36 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: After ninety two long years, rugby is back for the 37 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: games of the thirty first Olympiad and. 38 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: The men's Eagles sevens have gold on their mind. This 39 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: is the twenty sixteen Summer Olympics rugby sevens. Hell yeah, 40 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: welcome to Games with Names. We have a very special 41 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: episode today. You know this is a This is a 42 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 2: podcast where we talk about. 43 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: Games, specific games, but on this specific podcast, we're gonna 44 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 4: go deeper, not just into one game, but a bunch 45 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 4: of games of the twenty sixteen Summer Olympics. 46 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 3: And we're gonna explain the game. 47 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: This is gonna be a this is gonna be a 48 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: platform for the game that we're about to talk about 49 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: with an unbelievable Studley two sport guy. We're gonna talk 50 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: about rugby with Nate Ebner. Welcome to the show, Nate. 51 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: What's going on? 52 00:02:58,960 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: How are you? 53 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: Good man? Thanks for having me? 54 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: Well, in one sentence, why why did you pick these games? 55 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: Why did you? 56 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 2: Why did you pick these games of the twenty sixteen 57 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: Summer Olympic rugby seven's matchups? 58 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: I think there was a lot at stake. I'd say 59 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: that's pretty much what I'm thinking about when I see 60 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: all the games with names that you guys do. We'll 61 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: do a lot of football. We to, you know, give 62 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: rugby some love and heavy for me this twenty sixteen year, 63 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, going off of an AFC Championship lost to 64 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: Denver point conversion, you know you remember that, I fucking remember, 65 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: and then just going straight into the summer to try 66 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: to make this team on a long shot and go 67 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: through that experience to follow that up with the Super 68 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: Bowl against the Falcons. That was just twenty sixteen was 69 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: the year. So this this was you know, rugby hadn't 70 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: been in the Olympics for almost one hundred years. Last 71 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: Olympic rugby appearance we saw was in like nineteen twenty four. Wow, 72 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: So for to be back, you know, this was it. 73 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: This is what we got to talk about. 74 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: Is this the greatest set of games of all time? 75 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: If the outcome was different, maybe I could make that argument. 76 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: But it wasn't the outcome we wanted. 77 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: Hey, Nate, we asked all our guest, we asked all 78 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,559 Speaker 2: our Yes. Now, what's what's life looking like these days? 79 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: New dad? 80 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, new dad, that's the mostly what life is looking like? 81 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: Congratulations? Got a little baby girl, girl that Nate? 82 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, baby girl. She's beautiful, she's awesome, she's it's pretty 83 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: gret But you know, early mornings, oh. 84 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of diapers, lots of diapers. Now 85 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: are you do? 86 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: You have the diaper situation like master handled right where 87 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: you you know you do? You just lift their little 88 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: legs up, you put that thing, you open it up 89 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: with like a little tea mastered and you drop that 90 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: thing ba bap. 91 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean I have a self clock going on? 92 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: How quick? 93 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: So you're like pit crew in it. 94 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 95 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: I always myself too, got you. Now, what's your pit time? 96 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: What's your diaper time? 97 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: I'd say under thirty seconds is what I'm shooting for. 98 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: It's good. It's good. My mom's pretty fucking fast. I'll 99 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: tell you that right now, you know. 100 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: But I'm starting to get a wiggler. 101 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. 102 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: We get a lot of a lot of fighting, a 103 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: lot of kicking, a lot of rolling over, not cooperating. Yeah, 104 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: she won't stay on the jack, you know. 105 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 3: So sometimes you got a hog tire. 106 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: Yeah that's what. So. Yeah, I've little legs. 107 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: Hey, what are you doing over there? 108 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 3: You get peed on you? 109 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: Oh? Absolutely? Every time I take her to go get 110 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: a bath, oh my god, older, it's like it's time 111 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: to pee. 112 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: So I'll tell you one quick story about my introduction 113 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: to like being a dad. 114 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 3: Daughter Lily comes in. 115 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 2: And I have her in Boston, and it's like nap time. 116 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: You know, I seen in the movies. You just put 117 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: kids in a big T shirt right with a diaper. 118 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: You're good, I throw in there. I soon learned that 119 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: you should always have pants on the kid, because I 120 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: walk in like forty five minutes later and she's shit 121 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: everywhere and took her diaper off and was just standing 122 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: up like looking at me at like seven months, eight months, 123 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: nine months, like knowing she did something wrong in her 124 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: big ass ship T shirt filled with ship everywhere. You 125 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: always keep a pant on the diaper so they can't 126 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: just rip it off. 127 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: That's what I'm getting down. 128 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bank that. 129 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 2: It was just. 130 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: She's pulling out those straps. I could see that happening. 131 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: Oh that's why you got to put the little things on. 132 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna do that. 133 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that thing. I thought it'd be comfortable for her. 134 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: Appreciate that wisdom, you know, that's what that is is. 135 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so what you're you're in Ohio right now? 136 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in Columbus. Try to help my buck eyes 137 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: when I can with you know, keeping keeping a distance 138 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: where I can too, because I'm not trying to get 139 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: into all that too heavy. But it's hard not to 140 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: with an organization like that to to, you know, help 141 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: where I can. You know, and you love ball and 142 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: got a bunch of young, eager guys that have a 143 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: chance to do something special. So try to be around that. 144 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: Working out with my boy John's I'm in rolling around 145 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: doing jiu jitsu with him. He did a world tournament 146 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: in the gag. 147 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: Of course John Simon did that. 148 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, he did. He tour try something this match like 149 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: in thirty seconds, and he was so pissed. But he uh, 150 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: he's pretty good at it. 151 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: I bet you he. I mean that's what he did. 152 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: He set the edge, he used his arms. 153 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: He says, I can still set the edge. He's waiting 154 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: for him to call me. He's like, I'm still ready. 155 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: To say he gets set the edge. 156 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, he loves that. But yeah, doing that, I am 157 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: working with a tech company in the private aviation space 158 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: center around, you know, empowering brokers to be more efficient 159 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: all the way around, giving more options. Yeah. Yeah, it's 160 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: called Goodwin and. 161 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: He sells spreadsheets emails. 162 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 163 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: And I'm working with a broker it's called Fly twelve 164 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: hundred as a VP of sales. So I'm working with 165 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: them there. If you need a if you need a flight, 166 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: give me a shout. Yeah. And then you know, outside of. 167 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: That bro huh slot receiver. 168 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 1: And then you know, working on a little movie script 169 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: for you know, the book I wrote in twenty eighteen 170 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: or nineteen whatever that was Yeah, that's been a fun project. 171 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: Awesome now and I'm doing some broadcasting here soon with 172 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: some rugby stuff too, So that's. 173 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: Getting into TV, you know a little bit here and there. 174 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: So like, did do you have like a key card 175 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: at Ohio State? Do you still go workout at that gym? 176 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 177 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: Fingers this is everyone. Do you have a finger fingerprint? 178 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm in the system? 179 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: Are you in the system? So it's like anyone who's 180 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: associated with the ISOs, you can you always go back, 181 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: like a J Hawk can go back. 182 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: Well, AJ Hawk can go back, but AJ Hawk is 183 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: is hey, you know he's he's one of the ultimate dudes. No, 184 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: not really. I mean they're pretty particular about it. 185 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: But who's one of the Ohio State pros that can't 186 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: go back? 187 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 6: About Cardile Jones? Could Cardile get in there? 188 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but not the workout. Cardile's in there? You know, 189 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: mingling rub and shoulders. 190 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 5: Urban Meyer have the y urb. 191 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean everybody loves everyone in National Championship and 192 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: you know John Simon. You know there's Tim Tebow, but 193 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: John Simon is right there on Urban Myers. I mean 194 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: John Simon is adored by her. 195 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: Is John Urban, John Simon Urban. 196 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: He was with him his senior year and Herb loves 197 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: John and uh, everybody loves Johnny's good dude. He works 198 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: hard and all that. But he was, you know, big 199 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: in the culture of that undefeated season when Irban first 200 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: came in. But we were suspended from the previous year 201 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: so they didn't get to go to a national championship. 202 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: But anyways, yeah, a. 203 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 2: Lot of guys because of the autographs. Yeah, what was 204 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: his name? Could he get back in? 205 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I'm not in control of the 206 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: administration on who who's allowed in and up, but I 207 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: would say probably not. Yeah, but no, there's you know 208 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: not I mean myself and John, Bobby Carpenter, we don't. 209 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of peop there. 210 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: But Bobby Carpenter is a mayor. 211 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, the mayor. 212 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: Fucking Bobby Bobby Carpenter. Always remember how much court he 213 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: used to just hold in the locker room. 214 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: Dude, he does that now between him and John, I'm like, guys, like, 215 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: where can we work out? 216 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: I mean, Bobby cart Man the conversation Jacktice Ginger, you 217 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: ever see. 218 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: He would argue he's not a ginger, but he. 219 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: Kind of has it in him. 220 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: Blonde. He's like forty something and he is. 221 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: He looks young. 222 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: He's ripped up. 223 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean he works hard. He's always 224 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: worked his ass. 225 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's got any assistance in that, 226 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: but he does work hard. He does work hard though. 227 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: He's a great dude. 228 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: Now, you got to play for Ohio State. You grew 229 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: up in Dublin, Ohio. So how how did you get 230 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: introduced to rugby? Because Ohio you think Ohio, you think 231 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: of football, you think of Ohio, you think of Ohio State. Yep, 232 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: you think of Ohio, you don't think rugby. 233 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: No. 234 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: Where does this rugby background come from? 235 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: Nate the junk man himself? My dad, your pops. Yeah, 236 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: so my dad, we have a family owned runk yard 237 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: in Springfield. 238 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: How long has he been. 239 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: There since the eighteen sixties or even eighteen thirties. 240 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: Or early eighteen thirties something like that. Somewhere in there. 241 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: It's it's been around for q one hundred and thirty 242 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: years something like that. 243 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what. Edner's Auto Parts Edner and Sons 244 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: Auto Parts actually hell yeah, but it's like right downtown 245 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: to like in the middle of the city, like there's 246 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: just a junkyard it so it doesn't fit. But anyways, 247 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: he uh, he found it. He played football in high school, 248 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: found his way to rugby in Minnesota. Just became a 249 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: you know eighties seventies, eighties rugby guy, like a culture 250 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: guy that you know, they'd play out in the fields. 251 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: They didn't care, They had a great time playing. He 252 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: just loved you know. His thing about rugby was, you know, 253 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: he wanted to get his hits in and he said, 254 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: where else can you go? You know, beat the shit 255 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: out of somebody and knock out of jail. So that's 256 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: why he played rugby. Yeah, and you know he introduced 257 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: me to the game at a young age. I I 258 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: played a lot of sports. You know, we really good 259 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: squash player at a young age because we just did 260 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: so much random stuff. But yeah, squash racket game like 261 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: rack a ball, but the ball didn't fly around so 262 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: you got to run a little bit. Yeah. But yeah, 263 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: we know we did a lot of stuff. But obviously 264 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: I gravitated. 265 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 3: You're probably really good at Batmanton. 266 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you know you just can't really get 267 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: that thing moving, like you can't a squash ball. Yeah, 268 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: But like now I you know, I gravitated towards rugby. 269 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: I was obviously turned out to be a decent athlete. 270 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: And you know, any game at the highest level, you 271 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: have to have an IQ for it. Yeah, and you know, 272 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: I think that's why you see so much struggle with 273 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: a lot of athletes transitioning, whether it be a football 274 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: player trying to play rugby or a lot of you know, 275 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: rugby guys trying to get into that international program in 276 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: the NFL. It's just the IQ is so high at 277 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: that level. But you know, I was introduced to this 278 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: game at six Most American rugby players start fifteen sixteen 279 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: in high school at the earliest. So I played my 280 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: whole life, so the i Q was always there. Turned 281 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: out to be a decent athlete very quickly, was on 282 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: the junior national team at sixteen, of flying around the 283 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: world playing rugby and missing high school for months at 284 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: a time, and just became very good at a very 285 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: young age. And at that point, you know, I started 286 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: to see a path for me, you know, as a 287 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: rugby player. And I kind of you know, in high school, 288 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: I didn't play any football, not, you know, not at all. 289 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: Last time I played high school or the last time 290 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: I played football was in like seventh or eighth grade, 291 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: and I just became very serious about it and was 292 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: like full time. Yeah, and then I found my way 293 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: to Ohio State. How I grew up in Ohio, You 294 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: don't want to go anywhere else with the Ohio State, 295 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: you know. I thought about going to some other schools 296 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: because there were better schools for rugby, but you know, 297 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: I thought I could change the Ohio State landscape of rugby. 298 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: But I had one more Junior World Cup I was 299 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: in college because they changed it from U nineeen. So 300 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: I went to my first Junior World Cup in Dubai 301 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: and two thousand and six, I was like the youngest 302 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: player in the tournament, was like just turned sixteen and 303 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: it's under nineteen. And then I played, you know, the 304 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: next one. It was in twenty and seven in Ireland, 305 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: and then they changed to you twenties, and then I 306 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: played in Wales in my final one when I was 307 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: a freshman in college. And then I kind of found 308 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: myself at Ohio State, done playing high level international rugby, 309 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: and now I'm here playing club. 310 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 2: Rugby versus, well, why were you done? 311 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: Because the age grade stuff had ended, so pros certainly. Yeah, 312 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: there were pros and there was the men's side, but 313 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: I would have had to leave school and I told 314 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: my parents I'd get my degree. So here I am 315 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: just kind of done with the international World Cups and stuff. 316 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: Just got done playing South Africa. Twenty other twenty six 317 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: man roster were already under professional contract. And then I'm 318 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: playing like Indiana and the guys I'm playing with are 319 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: more worried about the after party than the game. And 320 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: I just got really frustrated really fast, because you know, 321 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: I've worked so hard, I'm playing against some of the 322 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: best players in the world, and I'm taking it pretty seriously, 323 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: and I just felt like I'm not getting any better here, 324 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: you know. And so then I started to look around 325 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: and it was kind of a perfect storm. 326 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: Because the Ohio State team, what are you talking about? 327 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? Who the guys are talking about after parties? 328 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: What was that? The Ohio State rugby. 329 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, the rugby team was the club team was more 330 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: worried about what we were doing. 331 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: Structure. 332 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: I want a structure. I wanted to I wanted to win, 333 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to go to nationals, you know, I wanted 334 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: all that stuff. And I didn't feel like I had 335 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: that coming back to me. You know, it kind of 336 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: fell like me versus everyone at times when I would play, 337 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: and that's just not how you play that game. So 338 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: I'm at Ohio State, I'm in my sophomore year. I'm 339 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: done with the Junior World Cup stuff. 340 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: Now is there a buzz on the campus about your 341 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: World champions stuff? It's not even a cricket, not a cricket. 342 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: You're walking down the always and yeah, trestles right there, 343 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: you rubbed shoulders and oh hey, sorry. 344 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: Son, get out of my way, Get out of my way. 345 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: Man the bathrooms that way. 346 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: Dude, No, he'd be he'd be the best. He'd be like, 347 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: excuse me, young man, Yeah, how you doing? And then 348 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: asked me all about myself. But no, you're right, yeah, 349 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: not not a cricket. So and I didn't care, you know, 350 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: I really didn't. I knew it was kind of a 351 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: niche thing, and and I knew what I was going for. 352 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: But I started to realize I would have had to 353 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: play professionally overseas, and I didn't want to leave the 354 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: United States. You know, I loved America. All the traveling 355 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: I did showed me real quickly how great of a 356 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: country we have, how much I appreciate it, And I 357 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: really didn't want to go to France and learn French 358 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: and play over. 359 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: There whatever I would have had to do and hard language. 360 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: So matt Ohio State playing club rugby in the fall 361 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: my sophomore year, just starting to look around because I 362 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: need something else anymore. And you know, like I said, 363 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: it was a perfect storm. I'm ot Ohio State. It's 364 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: the granddaddy of them all, you know, you know, there's 365 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: only a couple other schools football wise that can compete 366 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: on that. That yes, big school, and you can't escape it, No, 367 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: you can't. 368 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 2: Kent State and every want leave our games to go 369 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: watch the Ohio State game in their dorm. 370 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: I know, I understand. 371 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: So i'm and i'm I'm surrounded by it. Like you 372 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: just had mentioned, I'm one of the better, you know, 373 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: rugby players in the country. No one, nobody cares. And 374 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: you know, here we are, Ohio State's football is the 375 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: greatest thing in the world. 376 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: You know. 377 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: I thought about playing football my senior year in high school. 378 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: My I kind of got talked out of it because 379 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: I was really building something for rugby and chose not to. 380 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: And you know, we won the Division one state championship 381 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: that year, so I missed out on that, and you know, 382 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: I just everything was leading me towards fuck it, I'm 383 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: gonna walk onto the football team. So like the last 384 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: conversation I actually have with my dad, we we used 385 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: to go work out at the a CC. You know, 386 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: I was like nervous about telling him. He introduced me 387 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: to rugby, I'm gonna be one of the best rugby players, 388 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And now here I am about to 389 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: tell him, you know, hey, I don't want to I 390 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,719 Speaker 1: don't want to do this some more. I'm gonna go 391 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: walk onto the football team on some pipe dream. And 392 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: you know, I broke that to him, kind of told me, 393 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: I want to do this because I want to go 394 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: to the NFL, and he was very receptive right away. 395 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: He was like, you know, if you're gonna do this, 396 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: do it with everything. You have, no distractions. We're not 397 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: gonna play rugby half the time, and you know you're 398 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: gonna go all in with football and we'll try to 399 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: give everything you have and rugby will always be there 400 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: if if football doesn't work out. And the next day 401 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: he was murdered at the Junkyard. So that was like 402 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: the last conversation I had with him, and then obviously 403 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: had had a tough time with that dropped out for 404 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: that winter quarter because I was struggling and just I'll 405 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: go into it, but my mom was like the most 406 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: pivotal moment of my life kind of. I remember I was, 407 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: I was sitting on the couch just kind of zombied out, 408 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: you know, Dad's gone, and Mom comes in and in tears, 409 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: and she's just like Nate, like you gotta you gotta 410 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: get up and go, Like your dad would hate to 411 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: see this ruin your life. You gotta live a life 412 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: you'd be proud of. And you know, she was crying 413 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: saying that to me. And you know, I had some 414 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: friends that lost parents and whatnot, and a lot of 415 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: parents want to coddle their kids in those situations. But 416 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: for her to have the strength to say something to 417 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: me that, you know, not necessarily what I wanted to hear, 418 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: what she wanted to say, but what I needed. You know, 419 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: she did that and that was the moment where I 420 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: kind of woke up and I said, you know, fuck it, 421 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: let's go. I need to do this thing out. Like 422 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: like we had talked about and then like literally a 423 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: month later, I walked onto the football team at Ohio State. 424 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: Wow. 425 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: But I was a man on a mission. It was 426 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: not like some I want to put the jersey on 427 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: type of deal. You know. Those walk on workouts were 428 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: crazy experience. 429 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 6: Bro. 430 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: There's so many kids. There's like eighty kids there, and 431 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: half of them have their favorite players jersey on, like 432 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: they had no business being there. And you know here, 433 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I was playing some of the best athletes 434 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: in the world, just a different sports so I could 435 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: run and stuff, you know. But I'd say that was 436 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: probably one of the most humbling things I ever did 437 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: because I was a really good athlete, but I knew 438 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: nothing about football cover two, cover one, nickel, base, nothing, 439 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: So that was hard. And for me, I was already 440 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: I walked on the winner on my sophomore so I 441 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: was going into my junior year. I only had two 442 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: or three years of eligibility, so I was like, I 443 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: gotta figure this out quick. And the best way for 444 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: me to get on the bus with special teams because 445 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: it was like just put them on kickoff and let 446 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: him eat and I and I ate in college, you know, 447 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: and that's that's kind of what got me on the bus, 448 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: I'd say, you know, looking back on it was more 449 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 1: political at Ohio State trying to play defense than it 450 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: was in the league because we have such shorter numbers 451 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: and you got to do everything in the NFL and 452 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: Ohio State here able to walk on, you know, senior 453 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. You know, I'm taking some highly 454 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: recruited kid spot. It's like maybe not. So it was tough. 455 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: I played three snaps of defense at Ohio State. I 456 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: always got to mention I got a sack on one 457 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: of those big time high percentage, very high percentage, but 458 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 1: now special teams, you know, was a way that that 459 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: got me going. And Vrabel was a defensive coach at 460 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: the time my senior year, and you know, I think 461 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: I had that like the look of my tape. And 462 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: then my pro day came about and bald and uh 463 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: got me drafted, got you drafted, found my way to 464 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: the NFL, And that's kind of how. 465 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 2: It got started. That's crazy. 466 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: So so rugby was on pause. I never thought I 467 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: would play as long as I did in the NFL. 468 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: Should I keep going with how we got back to rugby, 469 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: how we got to this? 470 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: I'm just sitting here thinking, man, like I didn't realize 471 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: you didn't know any football I Cover two, Cover one zero. 472 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: I thought you played in high school. 473 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: Then you play it down of high school football. I 474 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: didn't know any. 475 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: Special teams and just came natural, go get balled. 476 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: They're just like kick it off and go tackle the guy. 477 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 3: And I got that, and you understood body leverage. 478 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: And yes, it was a very good tackling because of 479 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: because of rugby. I mean when I first got when 480 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: I had my first spring ball with Ohio State, I 481 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: could not believe the way these kids were tackling, especially 482 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: like safety coming up on like a screen and just 483 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: flying with his head down. Dude, I couldn't believe it. Yeah, 484 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe the coaches weren't saying anything. I couldn't 485 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: believe different, different type of tackling. It's totally different. 486 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 2: I mean, now, when did you learn like so you 487 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 2: came out in a open like it's just a fucking try. 488 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: This was not a preferred way like Rudy like ye 489 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 2: put your name on the chest Charlie from yes nd 490 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 2: Business one hundred. 491 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you basically had to sign up for the water 492 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: On workout. They they made the dynamic warm up so 493 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: hard that most of the guys where they were like 494 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: doing high knees like it was a competition. And you know, 495 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: I played at rugby a high leve. I knew it 496 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: was the warm up, and I'm like, this is crazy. 497 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: So I trying to chill out watching these dudes send 498 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: it on some high knees. It was so funny. And 499 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: these dudes were tapped before even ran forties, Like people 500 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: were pulling muscles in the dynamic. Woman is so funny, dude, 501 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: I mean it's not, but when did. 502 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: You So you go through that and you do the forty, 503 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: and you do the tryout stuff. 504 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 3: You know, they clearly see you're goodding you're an athlete. 505 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: They picked fifteen of us. 506 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 3: They picked fifteen out of how many. 507 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: Probably seventy five eighty kids, and then they said, you 508 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: guys don't deserve to work out with the team until 509 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: you earn it. So we went through two weeks of 510 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: walk on workouts. Now, I played in the Olympics in 511 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: a very high cardiovascular hard sport. Outside of training for that, 512 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: the hardest two weeks of my life was those walk 513 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: on workouts. They tried to break. They do one thing 514 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: they made us do was walking lunges across the field 515 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: to the sideline and back, and no one could drop 516 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: a dumbell. And we were doing with like seventy five 517 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: pound doubles, sixty five and seventy five. They only had 518 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: those two weights, and if somebody dropped dumbell, we had 519 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: to start over. Yeah, And I remember I would get 520 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: halfway done and somebody dropped it. We had to all 521 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: start over. And then we got to the point where 522 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, if you're gonna drop it, 523 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: just to like sit on your legs like me and 524 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: one other kid could get it done. And then we 525 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,719 Speaker 1: ran out and we held the dumbbells to give them 526 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: a break, and like that's how we had to get 527 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: through it. But I could not walk after that. That 528 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: was killer. And we would just do stuff like the 529 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: team wild work out at six, so we'd have to 530 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: be there at like four forty five five in the morning, 531 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: just like it was terrible. So we started with fifteen 532 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: of us and by the end of those two weeks 533 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: or three of us left. 534 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 2: Who you it was me, this kid. 535 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: Named Maxwell. 536 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 2: And Grant Deziac did they And. 537 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: There was a kidnam Roar too, so maybe four of us. 538 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 3: Now when you three make it. 539 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: There might have been more. But then by the time 540 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: we got through springball and actually into camp, there were. 541 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: The first time You're putting on a fucking helmet in 542 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: spring so like, did you know how to put on 543 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: your jock and stuff? No? I did. 544 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: I had trouble with the shoulder pads. Yeah, the shoulder 545 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: pads was weird to me. And then getting used to 546 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: like running with that was so weird. I just couldn't 547 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: believe it, Like people did that. 548 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 2: And then when was your first moment You're like I 549 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: could play with these guys because you probably humbled as 550 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: fuck when you first got out there. 551 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, the way, like doing dB drills because I played 552 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: safety was like very foreign. You know. We did a 553 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: couple of goal line like Texas Oklahoma drills where you 554 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 1: gotta go like it didn't make I didn't understand we 555 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: were on the goal line when we were doing the drill, 556 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: and my you know, in rugby it's like if you 557 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: got to give ground, you give ground until you just 558 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: don't let them. Through football, it's like no giving ground, 559 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: you got to go stick the guy. And like I 560 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: had a couple of times where I got like fucking 561 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: teed off on it, like I don't understand this concept. 562 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: So I just just changing your mindset and all that. 563 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: And I think it was hard at first because I 564 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: was treated as a walk on. You know, all the 565 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: guys would go, the freshmen that are coming in would go, 566 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: and then it'd be my turn to do a rep 567 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: and the whistle will blow. The period would change and 568 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm ready to go, and everybody would run and leave 569 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: me there and I'm in a stance ready to have 570 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: the coach throw me the ball and they all just leave. 571 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck these guys. And then I'd go and 572 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: stand on the sideline trying to get reps on scout team, 573 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm getting ready to go off for 574 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: the last rap. Period would end, you know, and I 575 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: just would stand there holding my helmet. And then I 576 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: eventually had a talk with one of the coaches like 577 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: get me on here, like so they put me on 578 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: special teams and then I could just you know, we 579 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: had all these high recruits and I didn't give a shit, 580 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: so I would be blowing people up. I was not 581 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: the one you wanted to see in practice, because like 582 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: I said, I talked to my dad about this. This 583 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: was a goal. This, I was on a mission. I 584 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: went there to just put the jersey on. So some 585 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: of these young kids or guys that you know, wide 586 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: receivers or whatever that don't want to play special teams 587 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: and then here we're on like a Thursday, which like 588 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: a Friday for us. Yeah, and then I'm coming through, dude, like, 589 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: hell yeah, you know I was that guy. 590 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: Were there any Were there any guys like any of 591 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: the fucking scholarship guys studs on the team. Was there 592 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: anyone that like put their arm around you and saw 593 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: how hard you worked and saw something and kind of 594 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 2: would tock you up. Did you have any like you 595 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: know what I mean, like the big name guys, because 596 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: like when I got in the league, I was kind 597 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 2: of in that same situation, playing new position everything, and 598 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 2: like Fred Taylor came up to me once when he 599 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: saw I was like mentally going crazy just on you know, 600 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: not getting reps and one day you'd get one rep 601 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: and you'd fuck that rep up maybe or you know 602 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 2: what I mean. So like you're playing math in your 603 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: head all day when you're a walk on, probably like 604 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: a a late round guy in the NFL. Know, you 605 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 2: know who was the guy that like, was there any 606 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: guys like that? Or is this just fucking lone ranger? 607 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: You know? Kirk Coleman was someone that I looked up 608 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: to and he helped me a lot because that was 609 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: that was my first year, was his senior year. You know. 610 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: Boom Hearing was someone I became close with. The running 611 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: back to your posey, the wide receiver. Those guys were 612 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: more my my class. John Simon obviously John Simon, He's 613 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: gotting a lot of shout out Tom. But yeah, I 614 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: mean I I had to earn it. 615 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: I think about John Simon though, where was he January sixth? 616 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: Or was he he knows what I'm talking about. 617 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: In the weight roomors well, he was rolling around with 618 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: some guys doing jiu jitsu, you know, knowing him, but yeah, exactly, 619 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: but he there were a lot of good guys there 620 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: that that that helped. But I think I had to 621 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: earn my stripes in that locker room. And I think 622 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: my first year we started too and two and coach 623 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: Trussell actually asked me to speak to the team. And 624 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, we're two and two. That's not how oh 625 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: of State starts and here, I am, my dad just 626 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: died like four months ago, and Coach Treustle's asked me, 627 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: you know, you can't say no to coach trustle. Ye 628 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: still can't find a way to say no to Coach Trustle. 629 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: So I got up there and I think I told 630 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: my story and guys kind of like, oh, I get 631 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: why this dude's so serious. And then you know, I 632 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: kind of my place spoke for itself, my intensity, how 633 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: hard I worked, and I think I just gained a 634 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: lot of respect early on. Like you know, when you're 635 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: in college, you have like the weight room, they'll split 636 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: you up into two groups and by the end of 637 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: the workout they'll be like, pick pick your guy, We're 638 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: gonna do like a one on one for the whole team. 639 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: And you know, I was like a first year walk on, 640 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: and you know, they were picking me to do the 641 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: push up contest versus you know, Kirk Coleman the seniors 642 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: fives A recruits the big guy, and you know, so 643 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: I had earned it through through my workout it because 644 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: they knew, like, he's gonna give it all. So and 645 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: then as as years went on, I you know, eventually 646 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: got put on scholarship. I was, you know, kind of 647 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: a leader on the team. Yeah, once it got going. 648 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know it came from the bottom. Now 649 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: you're here exactly. 650 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: No, seriously, that's so that's a dog. 651 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Then then the NFL that first rookie year, you know, 652 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: when they give you that playbook, I knew I wasn't 653 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: gonna just make it by being another guy that just 654 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: came in on special teams. And I was content. We 655 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: had some guys that got drafted that way Scottiowa draft, 656 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: and then they just refused to like really put the 657 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: effort towards learning the defense. And I was like, that's 658 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: not gonna make it. And you know, for me, with 659 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: the conversation with my dad, I wanted to make it stick. 660 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: I didn't want to just go to training camp and 661 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: say I played in the NFL, like I wanted to 662 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: make it. I wanted to get to a second contracts 663 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: or something like that. And so that rookie year, you know, 664 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia was big on helping me learn the defense 665 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: as much as he didn't have to. Brian Flores was 666 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: a first year safeties coach, so him and I grew 667 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: together a lot. Like I had a lot of help Obviously, 668 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: Bill was like, we're gonna use this guy. So you know, 669 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: Bill gave me more attention than the coaches at Ohio 670 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: State did, so I knew I had it there. I 671 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: just need to put the effort in to learn, and 672 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: you know, I had some moments, but I think by 673 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: the time I actually figured it out probably third or 674 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: fourth year in the league. Yeah, you're one of our 675 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: special teams. Dudes like you and slate like so and 676 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: that that's kind of where I was. And then you know, 677 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,479 Speaker 1: you also had Devin mccordy and Patrick Chong who were 678 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: staples for the longest time, and that was good for 679 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: me because I just could back them up and played 680 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: played a lot more safety in my first game in 681 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: the NFL than my entire college career. So I ended up, 682 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, playing a lot, but special teams was the 683 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: role that got me there, and that's really where I 684 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: defined my career in the NFL. 685 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: I mean, it's the more you can do when you're 686 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: a teamer, and you know I was. I was kind 687 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: of a teamer for you know, for like three three 688 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: four years of my career. Three years of my career, 689 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: I wasn't like a core teamer like you guys, you 690 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 2: court teamer plays on everything you're except field goal if 691 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: you're a smaller guy. You know, Like I was always 692 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 2: kickoff punt return, and then I had a situation where 693 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: I would be PP on punt, you know if someone 694 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: went down, and because of that, we drafted Nate because 695 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 2: what's his name got hurt and I was playing PP. 696 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: And then two years later we fucking are whatever we 697 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: drafted you. You know that you became the PP. But 698 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: you know, being a core teamer. Explain that mentality, like 699 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: to people they don't understand, Like, explain the life of 700 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: a special teamer where your job is maybe sixteen plays 701 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 2: a game, seventeen plays a game, five plays a game 702 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 2: periodically through the game, sudden change, quick out of nowhere 703 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 2: when you have to do it, and then knowing what 704 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: you have to do to back up other guys. Like, 705 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: explain a life of a special teamer. 706 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the most stressful part is probably you're 707 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: on the list of what seems to be the more 708 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: replaceable guys on the team, So you have like stress 709 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: there because it's like, you know, they could get rid 710 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: of me easier. But I think you know the other 711 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: stresses I need to know everything on defense as the 712 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: free safety and the strong safety and the dime, you know, 713 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: because sometimes I actually play dime and then the big 714 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: Nickel if we had that in so I need to 715 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: know all that because if one person gets hurt, I'm 716 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: in on somewhere and all that stuff. And on top 717 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,959 Speaker 1: of that, as like a play caller for the special 718 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: teams like the PP and stuff like you know, those 719 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: are one play series like high stress, one moment, full speed, 720 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: and you got to be right every time, every time. Yeah, 721 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: and it's uh, the hardest part about playing was it's 722 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: not like you go out on defense and I'm the 723 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: free safety and it's a run play and I kind 724 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: of get my feet wet and you know, I'm backpedaling 725 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: back there, or you know, you release out to the 726 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: outside and they throw a screen to the other side 727 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: of the field like it's on you know, then once 728 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: that boss kicked, you got to go full speed. It's 729 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: hammered down. 730 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: It's controlled chaos. 731 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: Controlled chaos. He said, a lot of this crazy, So 732 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: you know it was it was the wall and it's 733 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: like like anything else in the NFL, it's a production thing. 734 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,239 Speaker 1: So you got to not only be accurate, never make 735 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: a mistake, because mistakes in the kicking game are like 736 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: game changers, you know, like you block the wrong guy 737 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: on the punt and it's blocked. Like chance of losing 738 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: the game if you give up a block punt. So 739 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: you know you have that. But at the same time, 740 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: you got to be productive. And it was tough for 741 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: me in a position, you know, I had to do 742 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: most of my work on kickoff and then you know 743 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: pp where I could. But like you're not a gunner 744 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: where you get that just go eat the whole time. 745 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: You got to sit here and get everybody right. And 746 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: I think that's something for me that I you know, 747 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: really took ownership on. You know, Bill was big on 748 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: you know ownership with you know the leaders on you know, 749 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: offense and Tom and you guys making sure everybody knew 750 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: what they had and the defense with Dev and High 751 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: and all those guys like making sure everybody knew. And 752 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: I've kind of felt that same responsibility with the kicking game, 753 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: and I think it was easy for me to take 754 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: that role. Seriously, when you have a coach that I mean, 755 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: remember we'd watch we'd watch games after the game on 756 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, Monday, or whatever, and he'd show special teams 757 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: clips like more than offense and defensive clips because I 758 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: think a lot of times he wanted that buy in 759 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: from the team, but a lot of times, you know, 760 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: the offense would go do their offensive meetings and if 761 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: they didn't see this from him, they weren't gonna see 762 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: all the work Slate was doing, Brandon Bolden, Brandon Kings, 763 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: some of these guys that were making play. So he 764 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 1: would make it a point to really show that stuff. 765 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: And that always made me feel good about it and 766 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: made me feel like my job was important and it 767 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like, you know, you have to be humble 768 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: to play special teams when you play a Bill Belichick team, 769 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: because he shows that same level of urgency and importance 770 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,959 Speaker 1: with the kicking game as he does with anything else. 771 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: And so, you know, it made me feel like my 772 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: role really was important and I kind of became a 773 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: leader in that and you know, just obviously grew. But yeah, 774 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: that one play series is electric and you just got 775 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: to go and it's it's literally every play is like 776 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: kind of like a little fight. It is, you know, 777 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: and I will say this about you when you were 778 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: back there returning though it was just like something about 779 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: the like the interior guys were like like Edel's was 780 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: back there, like we got a chance. And I know 781 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm dead ass because you get guys back there, like 782 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: you know they're gonna fair catch it, yeah, or you 783 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: know they're kind of like a one cut to the 784 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: sideline and they're gonna get their six or eight and 785 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: run out of bounds like you were trying to hit 786 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: home runs every time. And I remember, dude, I would 787 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: just when I knew you were back there, it would 788 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 1: give me something a little more like to to try 789 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: to win because I'm like, this is gonna be a clip. 790 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: Edels is gonna take it to the crib. I'm gonna 791 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: have a sweet block. I remember just blasting somebody got 792 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,439 Speaker 1: called for a block in the back, like one time, 793 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: just trying so hard because I think I think, no, 794 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: that was that U. You didn't you didn't house it 795 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: or nothing, but I smoked, buddy. But it was like 796 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: I got called for a block in the back. I 797 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 1: had very few of those, so I didn't care. 798 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,479 Speaker 2: But like you can never get see as a return, 799 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 2: you get mad and I would joke, but you can 800 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 2: never get mad at a guy working his ass off 801 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 2: for you, like if a guy's holding or blowing someone up, 802 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 2: Like I know, the two guys that got to my 803 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 2: touchdowns called back Dane Fletcher and Patrick Chunk. Am I mad, no, 804 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: because you know that they're working their ass off for 805 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 2: you to get your shit. 806 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean, Like you can never 807 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 3: get mad at a guy trying hard. 808 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but man, like you know you talked about, you 809 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: get few opportunities, and I played on field goal block, 810 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: so I get about twenty to thirty snaps a game, 811 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: but a lot of them, like you know how many 812 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, punt returns are r fair catches just because 813 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: you know we're either rushing the pun or whatever, and 814 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: so a lot of those plays don't come up. So 815 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: when you get the opportunity, it's like it's gotta happen, 816 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you know you send it. 817 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: But we're part of some weird We had some really 818 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: good units with with you back there returning, and then 819 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen we set a franchise record for block 820 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: punts in a season. Yeah. I just remember being in 821 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 1: there with Joe Judge. That was the thing. I would 822 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: just break down the previous week the team we're gonna play, 823 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, I think this guy's the fish, 824 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: and I think we should do this, this and this. 825 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: And then on Monday, me, him and Slate would sit 826 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: in there and we talk about, you know, what we 827 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: want to do, and a little bit on Slate there, 828 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: Joe would come up with some of these Joe came 829 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: up with some really good stuff, but he also came 830 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: up with some crazy shit and he'd ask Matt and 831 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: Matt would be like, yeah, I see what I see 832 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: what he's saying there. And then I'd have to be 833 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 1: the guy that'd be like, Matt, you don't believe there's 834 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: no doing that. And then I had to actually be 835 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: the asshole. And then Joe'd be like what and I'd 836 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: be like no, Joe, like we can't do that. And 837 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: then Slate would be like, yeah, I see what Nate's 838 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: saying like and I'm like, it's like, come on, man. 839 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 2: So that Joe Judge the Special Teams coordinator. So when 840 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 2: are you guys talking? 841 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: This is this is usually on Monday, So Monday before 842 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: Monday or Tuesday, I'd come in. 843 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 3: You guys would come in and have a powwow. 844 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I and and when I went to New 845 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: York with Joe, it just became a habit. And I 846 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 1: would I would have the breakdown ready on Monday, and 847 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: I would give, you know, three to four rushes that 848 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: I think we should do, and then him and I 849 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: would talk the next day and then we'd install it 850 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: going afterwards. But we started that in New England. And 851 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 1: but YE had sometimes on some like we would do. 852 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: He'd have some kickoff returns. I remember that we're just 853 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: like insane. I'm like, man, we can't do this, and 854 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: don't sit here and co sign this. 855 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 2: I remember what Bill used to say. And Joe's one 856 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 2: of them, I guess because he'd always look this fucking 857 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 2: special team coordinator is gonna do some triple fucking reverse 858 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 2: this that he's just trying to get his name in 859 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 2: the paper. Like you remember, even say shit like that. 860 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 2: Joe would be trying to design ship to get fucking 861 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 2: ESPN highlights. 862 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean ship franchise record in block punts next year. 863 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: He's the head coach of the New York Know, now. 864 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 2: What's your best Slate story in those meetings or something 865 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 2: or anything? 866 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: Because I love Slate, you know, I when I talk 867 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: about slaving myself. It's usually the Batman and Robin and 868 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: he was he was Batman for sure, but you know, 869 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: Slate was always like our spiritual flag bearer, you know, 870 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: and and give us the raw raw and the and 871 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: the make you feel yeah. And then I was the 872 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: guy that's like, hey, that's wrong, like you need to 873 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 1: do it this way, you know. I was that guy, 874 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: and we played off of each other very well. He 875 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: was the put his arm around you. I was the 876 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, you're you're just not gonna make it here 877 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: if you can't do this, Like that's the type of 878 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: conversations I have. But with Slate, man, I got from 879 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: the things that would come out of that guy's mouth 880 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: on the field when how good of a you know 881 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: person he is. He was capable of some stuff, but 882 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: he uh. 883 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 2: My. 884 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: My favorite stories are definitely in those meeting rooms with 885 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 1: Joe when Joe would come up with some crazy stuff 886 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 1: and I'd look at Matt because I knew he was 887 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: gonna just yeah, Joe, yeah, I can see what you're saying. 888 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: And then I just have to be like, man, we 889 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: aren't doing that, and then like in front of Joe 890 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: and yeah, Slate, Slate's so funny, bro. But me and him, 891 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: I mean, we went through every play together for the 892 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: whole time I was there. We were in every meeting 893 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: to together. We went through the coaches together. You know, 894 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: we we lean on each other a lot. You know, 895 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: I would do everything I can as a play caller 896 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: on punt to try to release him as best as 897 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: I could. You know that that that pump protection got 898 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 1: very elaborate towards the end of my career because I could. 899 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: I knew what was going on so well. And usually 900 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: you get a lot of young guys that just send 901 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: the snapper right, send the snapper left, you know, six 902 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 1: MANI box or eight man box or whatever, and solid yeah, solid, 903 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: solid left and uh san France. But you would get 904 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 1: to the point where I could put put Slater in motion, 905 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 906 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 2: We could bring in a don't make me bring up 907 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 2: the dude. Hey, I know PP calls date. No, I'm 908 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 2: talking about I'm talking easy, easy, Hey, bring him man, 909 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 2: we got corner roll over here. I see that over there. 910 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 2: You ain't getting that corner roll? 911 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: Come on, all right now, I'm talking about letting Slate. 912 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: I'm talking about letting Slate run. Get him on that 913 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: gunner motion, let him run. But no, we just we 914 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: did a lot together. The things that stick out in 915 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,280 Speaker 1: my mind were those, you know, outside of the field, 916 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: you know, other than playing in Miami in September, running 917 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: down on the first two kickoffs, sitting on the bench, 918 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: well you know, you guys are out there, and we 919 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: just look at each other, like, fuck, are you tired? 920 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, are you And I'm like yeah, 921 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: you know, like with that full tilt in in September, in. 922 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 2: September in Miami. He's always tough. We lost that game. 923 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,959 Speaker 1: We lost every game in Miami. Dude, I don't know, dude. 924 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: I just remember a couple of times they'd have the shades, 925 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: they'd have the sprayers, and we just I'd hear Matt breathing, 926 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: you know, I had that asthma or whatever, and like, 927 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 1: good dog, and we'd look at each other. Give you 928 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 1: the big eyes he'd give those big guys, you know 929 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: he did, and uh, yeah, me too, bro, you're good. 930 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: But we just we went through it. 931 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 6: Man. 932 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 1: He was He was a great player to aspire to be, 933 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 1: to aspire to compete with, and you know, to lean 934 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: on each other as leaders as we got older, and 935 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: you know, very thankful for him. He's my guy. 936 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's He's the best teammate ever. We'll be right 937 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 2: back after this quick break. What's up with Bill fucking 938 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 2: drafting and getting guys that are two sport athletes? You, 939 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 2: Steve Neil fucking Hogan, what's going on? I arsatility. 940 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 1: I can't speak for Bill as he would say. 941 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 3: What's your best Bill story? 942 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 2: Anything? 943 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 1: Oh man, even Bill's story? I mean that takes me 944 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: to the Olympics, honestly, what is it? 945 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 2: So? 946 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, how does this conversation go? 947 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,760 Speaker 1: So obviously, you know, rugby was still in the background 948 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: of my mind. I'm on the Patriots. I thought I 949 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,760 Speaker 1: would play in the NFL for two or three years 950 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,760 Speaker 1: and get booted and I'd go back to playing rugby. 951 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: And here I am. Make it at work. Right, we 952 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl versus Seattle, we come back, you 953 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: know two thousand and Rugby got announced into the Olympics 954 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: in like two thousand and nine, so it was always 955 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: on my radar. Yeah, it's gonna be in the Olympics, 956 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 1: but we never Yeah, but we never you know, we 957 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,760 Speaker 1: had to still qualify. I didn't think all that twenty 958 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: fifteen rolls around. We just won the Super Bowl, USA 959 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: qualifies for the Olympics, and I'm like, oh shit, like 960 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: they're going. And at that point I was obsessed. You know, 961 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: We'd be in meetings and I'd be daydreaming about you know, 962 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 1: just Dyson, dudes, U Scissors, Caisars, Switch Sweechman. But no, 963 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: I just kind of became obsessed with it. And then 964 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, we made to the AFC Championship versus Denver. 965 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: You know, obviously that game didn't go how we wanted 966 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 1: and within like three days and I was in a 967 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: contract year, so I was going into my second contract 968 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: after that. I knew Bill would be calling pretty soon, 969 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: and you know, eventually he does and we get the 970 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: contract stuff figured out, and I'm like, I gotta talk 971 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 1: to him about this Olympic thing. You know, I was 972 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: really worried about it because like previously, like when I 973 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: was a rookie, Jeff Damps, you remember him, he wanted 974 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: to go to the Olympics. And Bill was like, a 975 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: He'm playing football if you go to the Olympics. And 976 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: he went, and I think he actually was on the 977 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: four by one hundred, yeah for one, but he never 978 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 1: played football again after that, and I was like, I 979 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: got a good thing going here, like I don't want 980 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: to mess this up, and you. 981 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 2: Made play though he never he never Yeah, too young, 982 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 2: he didn't have enough time exactly, but that's what I 983 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 2: had seen from him. 984 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: I saw Bill say no, and I'm like, you know, 985 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure, so you know, I'm worried about it. 986 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: But I I called Bill. We talked about well, he 987 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: called me about the contracts. 988 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 2: Do you have his numbers? 989 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 1: What do you have? 990 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 2: Him saved that as like coach b B. Bill Belichick, 991 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 2: coach coach b B. 992 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, whatever works for you anyway. So 993 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: he calls about the contract. We get that square and 994 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: then like I just remember at the end, I just 995 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: avoided it the whole conversation. I was like, so, Bill, like, 996 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 1: there's this other thing I wanted talk to you about. No, 997 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 1: and he was like close, probably didn't even know. And 998 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: then I was like he's like, he's like, what what's up? 999 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: He's like, what what do you got? And I'm like, so, like, 1000 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: rugby is in the Olympics and the USA qualified, and 1001 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 1: I feel like I gotta go do this. And I 1002 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: was like waiting for his response, and right away though, 1003 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, go ahead, and it was just 1004 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: like what, go ahead? And he's like, yeah, I mean 1005 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: I know how much rugby means you and you'll be 1006 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 1: representing the country if you make it, and then you 1007 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: know that'd be great, go for it. And I was 1008 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: just like well, okay, and. 1009 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 2: We hung up, and then like, you like, is the 1010 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:42,399 Speaker 2: contract still good? 1011 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? So so we hung up, and then like an 1012 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: hour or two later, he calls me back and he's like, hey, Ny, 1013 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,240 Speaker 1: so this rugby thing, it's not like you're going sailing. 1014 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: I'll ever get it. It's not like you're going sailing. 1015 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: You know, we got to put something. 1016 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 2: It's not like you're going fucking sailing exactly. 1017 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 1: That's better. And and he's like, you know, we got 1018 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: to put something in your contract if something haven't see 1019 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 1: you And I said absolutely. But I was at the 1020 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: point where I was expecting a no. And then I 1021 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: was like I'm doing this anyway, and I was gonna 1022 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 1: come back as a free agent and to go with 1023 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: a contract, you know, you know, it just couldn't have been. 1024 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 1: I never thought it would work out that way. So 1025 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 1: I obviously end up going and then you know, just 1026 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: a piggyback that while I actually made the team and stuff, 1027 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 1: and we can talk about that if you want, But 1028 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,359 Speaker 1: when when I played in the Olympics and Bill had 1029 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 1: you guys stop training camp to watch me in the 1030 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: team room, I mean, I want to know what your 1031 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 1: perspective was on that if you remember it. But for 1032 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 1: him to do that because I was one of the 1033 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 1: guys on the team and it was important, and to 1034 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 1: stop training camp to do that, and to have everybody 1035 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: wear the Ebner shirts out there like Stevie b made up, 1036 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: I mean, and and mister craft support just like the 1037 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:59,280 Speaker 1: Patriots organization and that like brotherhood and support like first class. 1038 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 1: You know. They they didn't have to do that. Bill 1039 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 1: didn't have to do that. 1040 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 2: No, it was not a doubt. 1041 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 3: That was so awesome. I mean, we were so happy 1042 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:05,320 Speaker 3: for you. 1043 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: So what was that like when he Because I'm obviously 1044 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 1: in real so I wasn't you know. 1045 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 2: There, but what you just we just we just had 1046 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 2: he we did like one of those movie things, yeah, 1047 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 2: I mean where he got a bunch of food and ship. Yeah, 1048 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 2: we all sat in there and we watched it. No 1049 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 2: one knew what the fuck we were watching. Really have 1050 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 2: to dudes, you're everybody what Yeah, you know what I mean. 1051 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 2: But it was fucking it was fun. It was a 1052 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,439 Speaker 2: team and building moment to support one of our guys. Yeah, 1053 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 2: and Bill was always really good about that, especially if 1054 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,280 Speaker 2: it had something to do with support in America. 1055 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. 1056 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,720 Speaker 2: You know, Bill loved the America stuff. 1057 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 1: Yeah he did. 1058 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that had to be awesome to have his support though, 1059 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 2: Like it had to be a weight off your shoulder 1060 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 2: going into transitioning into a mindset of getting into the Olympics. 1061 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,839 Speaker 2: Now take us through that. How did you? How did 1062 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 2: you try out? Someone call you? Did you fucking call them? 1063 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: So? I mean, obviously I knew some people because I 1064 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: was playing at a high level and did your stuff, 1065 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,239 Speaker 1: and everyone knew I left. You know, Rugby lost a 1066 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: good one to football, so I knew some contacts. Alex 1067 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: Magilby's CEO of the MLR Free Jacks, the minority team 1068 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: that me and Chung are with. You know, he was 1069 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 1: a seventh coach before Mike got This is our third 1070 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 1: team owner, right baby, Mark Cuban back to back, back 1071 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: to back MLR champs though, you know, yeah we won 1072 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:28,479 Speaker 1: back to back. So but anyways, Mas was a coach 1073 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: before Mike Friday. Mike Friday was the head coach when 1074 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,359 Speaker 1: I was there. And you know, Mags put a call 1075 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: in to Mike saying Nate wants to come. And there 1076 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 1: had been a number of NFL guys try to go 1077 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: play sevens. You just didn't hear about it because they 1078 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: didn't make it very far. But I the fitness is 1079 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,800 Speaker 1: I don't think they know what they're getting into. And 1080 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: the IQ thing I told you about now, for me, 1081 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: I played my whole life. I knew how to play 1082 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,359 Speaker 1: the game, and but it had been six years since 1083 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 1: I played competitively at Ohio State and the CRC and sevens, 1084 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 1: and so I hadn't played for six years. 1085 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,960 Speaker 2: You're playing sevens, not fifteens. We played fifteens as a kid. 1086 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 2: And did you ever play sevens? 1087 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 1: Yeah? I played seven So what's the difference fifteen on 1088 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 1: fifteen on a soccer field or seven on seven on 1089 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,320 Speaker 1: a soccer field. Oh, it's that simple, and it's that 1090 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 1: much space, and it's a lot of running, a lot 1091 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 1: of running, So especially at the international level, it's it's 1092 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: it's insane. So basically I put a call into Mags. 1093 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 1: He talked to Mike Friday, Mike's like, yeah, you know, 1094 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 1: we'll see another football guy. And but I had that 1095 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 1: rugby background, so I got a little bit more leeway. 1096 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 1: And a lot of the guys on the team, you know, 1097 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,320 Speaker 1: Zach test Danny, Barry met Danny, They've all played against me, 1098 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: so they knew. 1099 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,760 Speaker 2: I could play a little bit forgot Testy. 1100 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. So about three or four weeks after the AFC Championship, 1101 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: got the okay from Bill. I'm in tu la Vista. 1102 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 2: You know, I'm over here and staying in the last day. 1103 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 2: Are you nervous because you going on a season? You're 1104 00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:58,320 Speaker 2: kind of bangy? 1105 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, my thumb was. I did have a 1106 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 1: surgery on my thumb. But like it was more like 1107 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,399 Speaker 1: I knew the fitness and there's no way to get 1108 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: fit other than just beat yourself down to a pulp 1109 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 1: and do it again and again and again until all 1110 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden you're just fits. 1111 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 2: No fucking pill. Yeah, you's no potion. You just gotta 1112 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:18,800 Speaker 2: go fucking condition. 1113 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 1: Yeah that's it. Yeah, that's exactly. There is no pill, 1114 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 1: and that's and it's just it was just at a 1115 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 1: whole other level, and I knew what it was going 1116 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 1: to be like, but it was even more than I 1117 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 1: probably anticipated. So I get there four or five weeks 1118 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 1: after the AFC Championship and they just start beating me down, 1119 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,880 Speaker 1: you know, And I just went through it. And I 1120 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: was not in shape. You know. We would do some 1121 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 1: stuff where I was really strong for six seconds, you know, 1122 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,840 Speaker 1: ten seconds. Yeah, but they'd be like three minute sessions, 1123 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, Danny'd have me folded up by the time 1124 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 1: we were done. I'd have them at first. Then I 1125 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,840 Speaker 1: just would run out of gas. And I really had to, 1126 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 1: you know, break through that. And that took that took 1127 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: six eight weeks to really get where I needed to 1128 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 1: get to. And for me to play at the level 1129 00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to play it, I need to be fit. Yeah, 1130 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: you can't play that game. Oh you knew how to play, 1131 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 1: you're good and all that if you ain't fit, and 1132 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 1: none of that happens. So you ain't breaking out, you're 1133 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,400 Speaker 1: not cutting out of your you know, breaks in a 1134 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 1: two minute drill if you're not in. 1135 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 2: Shape to do it without a doubt. So explain that 1136 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 2: to people that the fitness of football compared to rugby. 1137 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,320 Speaker 1: It's not even close. Yeah, it's not. 1138 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 2: I mean it's like dragsters versus Formula one. 1139 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: It's it's like, you know, it's like it's like the 1140 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: one hundred meter dash and it's like a four hundred 1141 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: meter dash with an up down every ten yards, so 1142 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 1: like hurdles or an up down every ten yards. It's 1143 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: just the hurdles is too close. It's it's a lot 1144 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 1: because you're in and you never get a break, and 1145 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 1: you're and you're constantly going. We'd have you know, seven 1146 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,799 Speaker 1: minute a halfs fourty minute games. You'd run over two 1147 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: and a half miles in that period while you're tackling people. Yeah, 1148 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's a lot. So it was 1149 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 1: really about getting in shape. I'm there for two weeks. 1150 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 1: They send me to Hong Kong to play in this 1151 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 1: vitational tournament where the main team is playing in the 1152 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 1: seventh World Series in Hong Kong, and I'm playing in 1153 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: this you know, invitational international tournament in some random stadium. 1154 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 1: I stayed with some random dude from England. They got 1155 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,240 Speaker 1: me on the back of a plane for fifteen hours, 1156 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 1: just like stuck where you used to like first class. 1157 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,840 Speaker 1: I just got the whole experience, you know. I had 1158 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: a Yeah, I had a roll with butter on it 1159 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,839 Speaker 1: for my nutrition. I was like, Ted would love this. Ted. Yeah, 1160 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 1: So I do this tournament in Hong Kong and then 1161 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, someone I got hurt. The next week were 1162 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,279 Speaker 1: playing Singapore and Singapore was my debut with the with 1163 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 1: the with the men's sevens team, and I was and 1164 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,719 Speaker 1: Singapore was like one hundred and five degrees and I 1165 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 1: wasn't fit enough yet. I scored a couple of times, 1166 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: but I got smoked a couple of times, and I 1167 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 1: made a couple of bad decisions, and I think early 1168 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 1: on the hardest thing for me was getting out of 1169 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 1: that football mindset that Bill Belichick don't turn the ball over, 1170 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: you know, and you can't play rugby that way like, 1171 00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,280 Speaker 1: And there were a couple of times, like I remember 1172 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: one time I had act test like I just need 1173 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 1: to catch and pass, but I was like, ah, this 1174 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 1: might not get through, and I kind of held it 1175 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 1: and then Buddy smoked me too, and I'm like, looking 1176 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,279 Speaker 1: back on the tape, it's like, you gotta let that go. 1177 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 1: And there was just too much football in me to 1178 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 1: like not mess up that Bill Belichick, don't don't mess up, 1179 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 1: don't mess up. And it took me a while first 1180 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 1: to get fit, but then to like let that go. 1181 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: And you know, once I let that go about six weeks. 1182 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 1: You know, we had a six week long Olympic training camp. 1183 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 1: It took me all summer to kind of get in there. 1184 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,760 Speaker 1: But you know, we had a tournament in France somewhere. 1185 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: So I'm traveling all over the world all summer while 1186 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,720 Speaker 1: you guys are training, and that that tournament in France 1187 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 1: was like, you know, I kind of I kind of 1188 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 1: let it all hang out because I was kind of 1189 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: my last one. And you know, then we got to 1190 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 1: Olympic camp and I was like, I was fit. My 1191 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 1: give a fuck meter was really low because I had 1192 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 1: to be and I kind of found myself. And then 1193 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: on Olympic camp, I really like was starting the ball 1194 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 1: and it kind of got to the point where, you know, 1195 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,880 Speaker 1: there's thirty plus guys and they only picked twelve to 1196 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,959 Speaker 1: make this roster. Yeah, and you know, I hadn't played 1197 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 1: for a while. I really wasn't coming on yet. It 1198 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 1: was kind of like, he can play, but. 1199 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 2: Are these guys looking at you like, oh, the football guy, 1200 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:12,840 Speaker 2: of course, you know. 1201 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,400 Speaker 1: And then when I'm come to play football, I was 1202 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 1: the rugby guy. You know, I was always somebody else, 1203 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 1: but they definitely were like, you know, he's the NFL guy. 1204 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 1: I think they were more worried about it than I 1205 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,359 Speaker 1: was at first, but I was just worried about that conditioning. Yeah. 1206 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,919 Speaker 1: But anyways, I really came on in that Olympic camp 1207 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 1: and was like myself and they were you know, it 1208 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,840 Speaker 1: was kind of I had to show that I was 1209 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 1: more than capable because any question marks they got to 1210 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: go with the guy who's been there. And I think 1211 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 1: I got a lot of flack at first from the 1212 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: rugby community, like oh, this is a publicity stunt to 1213 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,920 Speaker 1: have the Super Bowl kid come in. But then once 1214 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 1: I started to play and it was like, oh he's 1215 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,280 Speaker 1: he's actually legit. It was kind of like we silenced 1216 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 1: that pretty good in the Olympics. So yeah, man, And 1217 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 1: then I'd say the biggest mistake of my life if 1218 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: I have like one mistake of my life, one regret, 1219 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: I don't really live with regrets, you know, Like that's 1220 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: why I walked onto the football team because I didn't 1221 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,800 Speaker 1: want to wonder. That's why I went to the Olympics, 1222 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 1: so I didn't. 1223 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 2: Want to wonder what it would have been like, what's 1224 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:08,320 Speaker 2: the one regret. 1225 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 1: The one regret is as soon as we were done 1226 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 1: in Rio, I stayed one day and I like ran 1227 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 1: back the Bill and the Patriots to come to training camp. 1228 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,959 Speaker 1: And that was the biggest mistake I have in my life. 1229 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,399 Speaker 1: Oh how did I I should have stayed at least 1230 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 1: a week, Like, Oh, we got some team functions. I 1231 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 1: got to be a part of, like and enjoy the 1232 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,840 Speaker 1: Olympic experience. Like I just got on a plane like 1233 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 1: a day later, I was at training camp. 1234 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,400 Speaker 2: You just want to hang out the Olympic village, didn't you? 1235 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 1: Looking back on it, that was a mistake. 1236 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:36,760 Speaker 2: How was Olympic village? 1237 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,320 Speaker 1: It was? It was crazy. I mean eight thousand athletes 1238 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 1: from all over the world. The food hall was the 1239 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 1: craziest thing because you got countries from everywhere that they 1240 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 1: don't all eat cheeseburgers, you know what I'm saying. So 1241 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 1: you got American station, you got a Chinese station, you 1242 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 1: got like everything for every cuisine because people eat different stuff. 1243 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 1: I always thought that was funny. But yeah, man, there 1244 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: was just the buildings. It all looked good, but man, 1245 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 1: nothing worked, Like the beds were ship like, the water 1246 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,280 Speaker 1: like I heard they poured cement down the water pipes 1247 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 1: of like the Australian teams, you know, their water didn't 1248 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,719 Speaker 1: work there to go to another building, like it was 1249 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:15,720 Speaker 1: just it was crazy. 1250 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 3: Now did you walk around the village with like your 1251 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:19,840 Speaker 3: USA gear on? 1252 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's all you had though, was your team like. 1253 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,439 Speaker 2: As as Americans? Like, people are looking at you like fuck. 1254 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 2: These people are like oh they're. 1255 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 1: Some of them were and some of them weren't. You 1256 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:30,200 Speaker 1: know how it is? 1257 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,759 Speaker 2: What do you mean they said fuck you? 1258 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:34,280 Speaker 1: The French. 1259 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 2: The French don't like you. I don't know, they don't 1260 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:37,239 Speaker 2: like us. 1261 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,640 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a rugby thing. I don't know. But the 1262 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 1: thing in the Olympic village is like trading pins. So 1263 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 1: you get a bunch of USA Olympic pins. So like 1264 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 1: that's how the players interact with each other. Is they 1265 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,239 Speaker 1: all want you try to collect as many pins as 1266 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 1: you can. Should have collected a few more pins, is 1267 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But ran back to training camp with 1268 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: you guys. Moses Cabrera's like, we know you did a 1269 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 1: lot this summer. We're not gonna go too hard on you. 1270 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 1: I get back. He says that to me. The next day, 1271 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm in full pads doing the bout run for time, 1272 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 1: and he didn't tell me how far to go because 1273 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 1: I hadn't done bout runs before. But he just he 1274 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 1: just he just wanted to. 1275 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 2: See where I would get, because where'd you get? I 1276 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,439 Speaker 2: can't what he was doing, and you wanted to see 1277 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 2: what rugby track. 1278 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 1: I went well over one hundred yards past what we 1279 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 1: were supposed to do. It was close to nine hundred 1280 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,880 Speaker 1: something like that. I didn't have a pace or nothing. 1281 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 1: I was just running. Then I was done, and I 1282 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 1: was like, I'm actually breathing a little hard. That was 1283 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 1: kind of hard, and he's like, yeah, you're good, you're 1284 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 1: no conditioning test. But I ran like one hundred yards 1285 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 1: further than we were so outrun. What an asshole, though, 1286 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: Like why would you maybe do that? 1287 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 2: So usually the bout run you have to run for 1288 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,360 Speaker 2: three minutes yep, and you have to get seven hundred back. 1289 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 2: You just got to keep on running for three minutes, 1290 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 2: but you have to get at least seven hundred and 1291 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 2: fifty yards and three minutes or something. 1292 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like seven forty and it's like it's something 1293 00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 1: like that, and you gotta like the skilled position had 1294 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 1: to get there, and I remember I went well over that, like, yeah, 1295 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 1: fifty somethings. 1296 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 2: Always tough for us because like Nate said, you know, 1297 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 2: we're trained for thirty seconds on, thirty seconds off. 1298 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was cake for me after what I had done. 1299 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 1: I thought that was a joke. 1300 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,600 Speaker 3: Now, are you a better rugby player or a better 1301 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 3: football player? 1302 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 1: That's tough to say. That's a great question. I don't know. 1303 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never been asked that. I mean it's 1304 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 1: tough because like towards the end of my football career, 1305 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 1: like I feel like I knew what I was doing 1306 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,920 Speaker 1: pretty good. You know, I had a second team All 1307 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 1: Pro year. You're a great teamer, played for a little bit, 1308 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 1: but I was good at rugby man, and it just 1309 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 1: I think if I had played rugby my whole life, 1310 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 1: it would have been like, I don't know, I just 1311 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 1: leaned towards rugby rugby. 1312 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 3: You know what could an NFL guy learn from rugby? 1313 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 2: All these laterals do you see like Travis Kelcey and 1314 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 2: all these guys, it's like, I like, really coming into 1315 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 2: the game, I. 1316 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 1: Think it's great. I think they could learn a lot 1317 00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 1: from tackling, especially in space. You know, it's like one 1318 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 1: thing when it's third and one and you know it's 1319 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 1: two back set or something and the defensive line's got 1320 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 1: to take on the guys. But you know, some of 1321 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 1: the open field tackling, you know. 1322 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 2: Gallup callum. 1323 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, we did a lot of really good gallo. We 1324 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 1: did a lot of really good stuff. 1325 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 2: From your feet in the ground, fucking guy, you're done. 1326 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 1: We had a lot of good tacklers too, I bet 1327 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 1: and no with the Patriots, Oh yeah, because we did 1328 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 1: some good tackling stuff. And I just think they could 1329 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 1: learn a lot from tackling. I think a lot of 1330 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,760 Speaker 1: guys would learn what like really being fit is, because 1331 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of guys think they're in shape, 1332 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 1: but I mean, I guess we are for football. But 1333 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 1: it's just like your ability to never get tired is 1334 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 1: the greatest feeling in the world, that is. 1335 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 2: I mean I felt like that from like twenty six 1336 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 2: five to like thirty twenty nine, twenty nine, I started 1337 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 2: getting tired, Like I could see in my conditioning. When 1338 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 2: off season you start getting tired from injuries or whatever 1339 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 2: it is, or you're older, you notice that the older I. 1340 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 1: Just start getting bodies, just the wheels fell off at 1341 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 1: thirty two, and I held on for another year and 1342 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 1: they were just completely off at thirty three. 1343 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 2: What's what's the difference between an NFL locker room and 1344 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 2: a rugby locker or. 1345 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 1: That's what else what I was gonna say. You asked 1346 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 1: what could guys learn from from rugby guys, and I'd say, 1347 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 1: just culturally, it's just like, no me guys, Like they're 1348 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 1: just nonexistent in the rugby world. Like the guys are 1349 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 1: always such good guys, and the culture is so good, 1350 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 1: and it's such a team first mentality, and I mean, 1351 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,960 Speaker 1: we do that. But like you see the Prima Donnas 1352 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and like, just like the amount of 1353 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 1: meanness in the NFL is crazy when I see a 1354 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,439 Speaker 1: whole other side of it in a in a team 1355 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,360 Speaker 1: sport like rugby, where there are guys that control the game. 1356 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 1: But you know, I think you really understand rugby, like 1357 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 1: it takes everybody to make a play. Go yeah, you know, 1358 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 1: and we get you know, some waters your position seems 1359 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 1: to be the Prima Donnas, but like I was, not you, 1360 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 1: but your position, and you know, they they forget, they 1361 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 1: forget there's an off offensive line blocking for Tom and 1362 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, or whoever, Tom's throwing the ball and you've 1363 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 1: got other guys are running clear out routes and then 1364 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 1: people are blocking down field for him, and then they 1365 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,080 Speaker 1: get in the end zone and it's just like I 1366 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 1: did that, Like fuck you, dude. 1367 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,200 Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of that now. 1368 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that that's probably the biggest thing I take 1369 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,520 Speaker 1: away from it is how vastly different the cultures are 1370 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:26,040 Speaker 1: for two pretty much team sports, you know. And you know, 1371 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,439 Speaker 1: I would argue though in the NFL, you almost kids 1372 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 1: come up in that though. You gotta be noticed, you 1373 01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 1: gotta you know, you gotta be about you and let 1374 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 1: everybody see how good you are. And we build that 1375 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 1: culture in American sports because that's what makes it big 1376 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 1: and makes money. And you know, rugby is not like that. 1377 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, man, it's it's a great sport. 1378 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,040 Speaker 2: You guys have fun songs you sing or anything you 1379 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 2: have a song like, or do you guys drink beers 1380 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:49,920 Speaker 2: with the other teams of. 1381 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 1: Jack's post game like they do like a post game 1382 01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 1: song after they win, and they these songs. I don't know, 1383 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 1: it's that they're kind of hot. 1384 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:06,920 Speaker 2: It's kind of like our Lucker room. And I get 1385 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,000 Speaker 2: on the mic before practice. It's her flowing. 1386 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 1: You just ruined the vibe for everybody in the We're 1387 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 1: all getting ready to go, and then then here comes 1388 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:15,400 Speaker 1: Edel's and. 1389 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 2: We're like, god, damn it, fake microphone. 1390 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, just your pants on, no pads yet, just ready 1391 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 1: to go, everybody. Just you made people laugh though I 1392 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 1: don't know if they were vibing, but they were laughing. Oh, 1393 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:34,320 Speaker 1: you brought the juice, Nate. What's your favorite jewel story? Man? Personally, 1394 01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,440 Speaker 1: my favorite jewel story is my favorite one is I 1395 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 1: don't even know if you remember, but it was like 1396 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 1: when we had a summer conditioning run and it was 1397 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,720 Speaker 1: like me, you, Slate, Devin and Pat. 1398 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 3: Oh that's a that's a fast group. 1399 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,720 Speaker 1: And it was a fast group. And I just got 1400 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 1: off the Olympics. I just got off Olympics and Edel's 1401 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 1: and I love the story because it just shows how 1402 01:02:55,240 --> 01:03:01,440 Speaker 1: fucking competitive he is. But like this is this is April, summer, 1403 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,080 Speaker 1: in April or May, and like everybody's just We're out 1404 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,880 Speaker 1: there on like a Wednesday doing conditioning and like Slate 1405 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 1: and Devin powder just like yeah, And I was like, okay, 1406 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'll chill out, and you just kept like 1407 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,000 Speaker 1: we did like the first two reps, and you just 1408 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 1: kept running in front of me, and I was like, 1409 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,840 Speaker 1: don't do that. I mean, you had a little beef anywhere. 1410 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 1: It was like, don't do that, bro, and you're like, Bro, 1411 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,040 Speaker 1: I ain't worried about that ship. And then I just 1412 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,680 Speaker 1: put the pedal down for like another Like remember we 1413 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 1: would do like eighty yards, you know, forty yards, like 1414 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty yards. It was like it would change, 1415 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,480 Speaker 1: but it was like two thousand yards. Yeah, so we 1416 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 1: only had done like two reps, so we were only 1417 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifty yards in and I was like, 1418 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm gonna bury this dude, because we were 1419 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 1: we were going at it, and you were just like, man, 1420 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 1: I ain't worried about all that shit. And I pretty 1421 01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,960 Speaker 1: much sprinted the whole thing and you were with me, 1422 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 1: but you were done. But you spilled it, bro. You 1423 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,280 Speaker 1: were like so like just the competitiveness and that because 1424 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 1: like I really was running too. 1425 01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 2: You just came off the like this mother, come out here. 1426 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 1: And then I just remember we were finishing so much 1427 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 1: faster than Devin and Pat. And then in the back 1428 01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:08,720 Speaker 1: they're like, fuck those guys, they can do that. And 1429 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,400 Speaker 1: me and you were just at it. And by the 1430 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,440 Speaker 1: end though, like I really put up, pedal down, but 1431 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 1: you spilled it so hard that you collapsed. And I 1432 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 1: just just like, I'm pissing my things. I'm not even controlling. 1433 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,640 Speaker 1: I can't even control if I do. Remember that. We're like, 1434 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 1: I was so tired. 1435 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 2: I went and fucking barked up the tree and the 1436 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,480 Speaker 2: guy who just played in fucking rugby seven's Olympics, and 1437 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,320 Speaker 2: I was like, fuck this, dude, Let's see how fast 1438 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,040 Speaker 2: you are because I used to we used to condition. 1439 01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 2: We were two of the conditioners. Met him and Slate 1440 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,520 Speaker 2: would condition fast, you know what I mean. 1441 01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:42,960 Speaker 1: We were trying to get back at the pace. 1442 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 2: You're always the rabbits, right, and so I'm like fuck that. 1443 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 2: And he would run and we'd be running our thing, 1444 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,320 Speaker 2: and I would get right in front of him at 1445 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:52,000 Speaker 2: the very end at the. 1446 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,720 Speaker 1: End, yeah, everything, and I was like I mad too 1447 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,200 Speaker 1: because I'm like that too. And then we just both 1448 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 1: were like fuck, you know, fuck you. I just took off, 1449 01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,880 Speaker 1: but you were right there. And then at the end 1450 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,240 Speaker 1: of the respect, at the end, you were done peeing 1451 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,360 Speaker 1: yourself and I was like, I'm actually tired, like good ship, 1452 01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,160 Speaker 1: but I remember that. That's my favorite story you because 1453 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 1: you could have tapped, you could have just not been 1454 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 1: like that, and you know, Devin patted it back in 1455 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 1: the back, but like, nah, you just you can't help it. 1456 01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 1: That dog's just in there and it's you just can't 1457 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,120 Speaker 1: contain it if you tried. And I just love that 1458 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,440 Speaker 1: and uh no, but outside of that, I mean, yeah, 1459 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 1: him rapping in the locker room just absolute clown, Just 1460 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:42,480 Speaker 1: just a clown. Definitely bipolar, emotionally emotionally unstable to say it, 1461 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,760 Speaker 1: to say the least, but you kind of know what 1462 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 1: you're getting into. And when he's like that, you just 1463 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,200 Speaker 1: are like, ah, he's just having a day. 1464 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 2: Well sometimes you know what, people don't realize you had 1465 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 2: a standard there. Yeah, and if the ship didn't go right, 1466 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,560 Speaker 2: I was pitt off like if I am a good practice, Fuck, I'm. 1467 01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,040 Speaker 1: Mad and he's mad at everybody like it's their fault. 1468 01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,479 Speaker 2: You know, and just you just get mad like fuck, 1469 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 2: we wasn't a good enough practice because they put that 1470 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 2: standard on us. It ruined my fucking cheerios, It ruined 1471 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,760 Speaker 2: my morning, ruined everything because we didn't. We didn't fucking 1472 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 2: do good on two minute drill at the end of 1473 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,480 Speaker 2: the fucking practice, you know. So, but a lot of 1474 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,880 Speaker 2: a lot of that was I still work well. 1475 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing about that culture was you 1476 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 1: had guys like yourself, and you know, I like to 1477 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,800 Speaker 1: think I worked hard and Slay and dev and those guys. 1478 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 1: But like even like a Tom Brady who's like has 1479 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,800 Speaker 1: every excuse in the world to take it easy, and 1480 01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm older, I don't feel like it today. Like that 1481 01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 1: dude was out of practice early warming up. He was 1482 01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 1: always in the facility early, like he worked as hard 1483 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,240 Speaker 1: as anybody. And it's like, that's him. And if if 1484 01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 1: he's doing that, I gotta do that. 1485 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:55,560 Speaker 3: And that was after. 1486 01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,240 Speaker 1: Exactly and he and it's just like when you get 1487 01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,560 Speaker 1: that guy doing that, and even Bill, like Bill did 1488 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,560 Speaker 1: what he could do. He wasn't a player, but he 1489 01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,120 Speaker 1: was there early. He knew everything about every position, and 1490 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,480 Speaker 1: you have this you know, he's preaching hard work and 1491 01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 1: all that. But then you got it walked out from 1492 01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 1: the leadership. And then guys like yourself who were big 1493 01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,320 Speaker 1: time leaders and myself who grow up in that system. 1494 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:19,840 Speaker 1: And then then then we just can't help it. We 1495 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 1: just work like that, and it's just this trickle down effect. 1496 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:24,800 Speaker 1: And then you know, I go to like New York 1497 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,400 Speaker 1: with Joe and it's just like there's none of that. 1498 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,400 Speaker 1: And then it's just like you just fracture so much easier. 1499 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:36,640 Speaker 1: You're just such a less resilient team because of you know, 1500 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,120 Speaker 1: just that difference of how hard guys are willing to 1501 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,520 Speaker 1: work on one end, and then you know, I don't 1502 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 1: understand why we're working that's hard on the other end, 1503 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:45,440 Speaker 1: and it's it's why we were good. 1504 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,200 Speaker 2: Bill broke me once on those bout runs. Remember he 1505 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,520 Speaker 2: meet us doing out of the blue during the middle 1506 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:51,320 Speaker 2: of a practice. 1507 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,240 Speaker 1: Middle of the practice. Yeah, those were paths on. Yeah, 1508 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 1: with those hit different in the middle of practice. 1509 01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,360 Speaker 2: I don't know why did he make us do that? 1510 01:07:58,360 --> 01:07:58,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1511 01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,480 Speaker 2: I don't know we were doing. And then all of 1512 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:01,880 Speaker 2: a sudden we had to do a three minute about 1513 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 2: in the middle of the right sit here. 1514 01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 3: We just ran two minutes. Bill, I'm dying. I'm dying. 1515 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,840 Speaker 2: My back was tightened up too, you know sometimes when 1516 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:11,720 Speaker 2: you run those because you're not used to running that 1517 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,320 Speaker 2: much that far. 1518 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that long, Yeah, with the wait yeah, you. 1519 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,200 Speaker 2: Know what I mean, I was locking up on it. 1520 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 2: It was fucking training camp, so it was hot as fuck. 1521 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you already probably put in five thousand meters practice. 1522 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah at least. Well, let's go back. It is the 1523 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:32,040 Speaker 2: sports world of twenty sixteen. The Summer Olympics. What was 1524 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,799 Speaker 2: going on? Michael Phelps won five gold medals, one silver, 1525 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:40,920 Speaker 2: and Phelps face hashtag Phelps face swept the internet. What 1526 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:42,679 Speaker 2: was oh the Phelps face. 1527 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 6: He was when he was staring down the South African news. 1528 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:46,880 Speaker 6: Did you get to see boxing in front of him? 1529 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? Man, he uh cool at that At that point, 1530 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:54,000 Speaker 1: he was already he was that guy. And you know 1531 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,720 Speaker 1: I felt bad for him because he's got to do 1532 01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,880 Speaker 1: lead the opening ceremonies. You know, we get on the 1533 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,320 Speaker 1: buses as team. You say, it's not like he gets 1534 01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 1: private bus. He's on the bus with all of us. 1535 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,799 Speaker 1: But some of these guys are just like, these athletes 1536 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,240 Speaker 1: are just swarming him, you know, like want a picture 1537 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,240 Speaker 1: with him, sign and ship and he's like, these are 1538 01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 1: my USA teammates. But you know, so he's just getting 1539 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,760 Speaker 1: swarm Nicest guy ever you know does the opening ceremonies 1540 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,720 Speaker 1: like the next day, he's got to go swim, like 1541 01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,840 Speaker 1: just the And I remember the opening ceremonies was like 1542 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,680 Speaker 1: almost a week before the rugby and I was like 1543 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:27,960 Speaker 1: after the opening ceremonies, I was like, I'm tired. I'm 1544 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,559 Speaker 1: thank god. We don't even you know, a game or nothing. 1545 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 1: The next day stand in USA is like the United 1546 01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,519 Speaker 1: States is like last because of the U and it's 1547 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,200 Speaker 1: we're waiting forever, standing in line to go through. It 1548 01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:44,040 Speaker 1: amazing experience going through the opening ceremonies, but what he 1549 01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:47,519 Speaker 1: went through with the team and and and the attention 1550 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,000 Speaker 1: and and just how long it was and how much 1551 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:51,960 Speaker 1: walking to turn around and go swim the next day, 1552 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,360 Speaker 1: like like hell, yeah, dude, kudos for you. 1553 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,080 Speaker 3: Like, man, it's kind of like that Tom shit. 1554 01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because after a game you got Tom, 1555 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 2: every guy wants to take a picture with Tom. Yeah 1556 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,280 Speaker 2: you know later in his career, fucking guy picked him, 1557 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,519 Speaker 2: wants to wants them to sign the ball you picked 1558 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,360 Speaker 2: from him in the game. Like those guys have to 1559 01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 2: be creazy, Like those super superstars that are the best, 1560 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:18,320 Speaker 2: the greats they get, they're such crazy compartmentalizers. 1561 01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like they're kind of like psychos. 1562 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,920 Speaker 1: My favorite tom one was when we were in Mexico City. 1563 01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't like players or nothing, but I just remember 1564 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,639 Speaker 1: we got off those buses at Mexico City and mister, 1565 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,240 Speaker 1: you remember that and they were just dude, Steve Goskowski 1566 01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,640 Speaker 1: and Ryan Allen and just do that. The whole we 1567 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,240 Speaker 1: were dying laughing bus too, Gronk, all of us were 1568 01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,839 Speaker 1: back there, just mister. It was so funny. 1569 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:44,080 Speaker 6: Man. 1570 01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,280 Speaker 1: We said that the whole week. We beat the crab 1571 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,960 Speaker 1: out of Las Vegas too. Yeah. I get they were 1572 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,600 Speaker 1: Oakland at the time, but I'll never forget that. Like, 1573 01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,880 Speaker 1: we got off those buses and they were just one 1574 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 1: and nothing, just just Tom. 1575 01:10:59,200 --> 01:10:59,800 Speaker 2: That was so fun. 1576 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,240 Speaker 3: I would we didn't did a documentary that was That 1577 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:03,120 Speaker 3: was a cool experience. 1578 01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, really cool. 1579 01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:08,599 Speaker 2: So Mombiles won four gold medals and one bronze. She's 1580 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,960 Speaker 2: a beast. Same bolt completes the triple triple three golds 1581 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,880 Speaker 2: in three events, one hundred, two hundred and four by one. 1582 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:17,960 Speaker 2: We'll see him legend. 1583 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he was tall then I thought he would be. 1584 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,160 Speaker 2: He's fucking for a sprinter. Yeah, that's the new rate, 1585 01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:25,160 Speaker 2: that's the new age sprinter. 1586 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:25,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1587 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,679 Speaker 2: It used to be sprinters or a little balls of muscles. 1588 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, I mean he yeah, he's special. And 1589 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:32,640 Speaker 1: then her, I mean she, Hey, what up? 1590 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,160 Speaker 2: Were you there with the Lockley guy who got mugged? 1591 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? How were we got? I was yeah, dude, that 1592 01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,400 Speaker 1: was the like what was going on with that? 1593 01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:41,519 Speaker 3: Give us the load? 1594 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:45,519 Speaker 1: I really don't know. I you know, me like, I 1595 01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,080 Speaker 1: don't like not a lot. It's gonna sway my attention. 1596 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,080 Speaker 1: But that was just like so it sounded like it 1597 01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:55,760 Speaker 1: was a pretty phony, dramatic attention seeking thing. But I 1598 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,000 Speaker 1: don't know that what actually happens. I don't want to 1599 01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:01,920 Speaker 1: like speak on it, but it it sounded pretty weird. 1600 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:03,519 Speaker 2: What did he do he got jumped? 1601 01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:05,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what 1602 01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:06,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to I don't want to speak out. 1603 01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not gonna speak out of pocket. Bars PK 1604 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:14,120 Speaker 2: helped Brazil the gold for Brazil in their hometown. That'd 1605 01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,160 Speaker 2: be cool to watch. Did you watch any of those games? Uh? 1606 01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 1: No, we went to some volleyball stuff. That's what I'm saying. Dude. 1607 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,120 Speaker 1: I should I should have stayed for should stayed for 1608 01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:26,639 Speaker 1: a week and watch some events. 1609 01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,040 Speaker 2: I mean, the little Bible's husbands got to go to 1610 01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,840 Speaker 2: miss training camp. You're fucking playing in the goddamn gave me. 1611 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,680 Speaker 1: I just I told you, biggest get home. 1612 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,479 Speaker 2: He wasn't get home. 1613 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,519 Speaker 1: It was my little Patriot way. Oh, I'll be right back, 1614 01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,640 Speaker 1: you know, Like, what the fuck was I doing? 1615 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,000 Speaker 3: See, that's why we're the Patriots. 1616 01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:46,599 Speaker 2: So yeah, but guys like Nate Ebner, the Patriot guy, 1617 01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,920 Speaker 2: I should get back to the team. Screw the most 1618 01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,160 Speaker 2: beautiful place in the world. 1619 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,360 Speaker 1: In the Olympics and watching the other events and maybe 1620 01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,200 Speaker 1: going to the beach. Now, I gotta go back to 1621 01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:56,920 Speaker 1: training camp. 1622 01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,839 Speaker 2: And this is the year they debuted the rugby seven's 1623 01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,240 Speaker 2: what was the coolest non rugby athlete basketball. 1624 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,320 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we did some stuff with the basketball team, 1625 01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,960 Speaker 1: and I just you know how dav loved Kevin Durant. Yeah, 1626 01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,920 Speaker 1: I love taking a picture of Kevin and those guys. 1627 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,439 Speaker 1: They are amazingly tall, and it's like obviously, but it 1628 01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,600 Speaker 1: just was weird standing next to him. But like we 1629 01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,000 Speaker 1: were watching them practiceing, Kevin Durant just like kept bricking 1630 01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:23,400 Speaker 1: it and I was just filming it and sending it 1631 01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:29,559 Speaker 1: to dev. I like best ever yeah, Oh he was great. 1632 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,720 Speaker 1: He was awesome. They were all great guys and they 1633 01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:34,760 Speaker 1: were throwing the rugby ball around with us. It was 1634 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,320 Speaker 1: it was. It was pretty cool. The basketball team are dope. 1635 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:42,240 Speaker 1: They I don't know if they stayed in the Olympic 1636 01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,240 Speaker 1: village because they couldn't have fit in the bed. It's 1637 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:45,400 Speaker 1: like I didn't have fit in the bed. I know 1638 01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,880 Speaker 1: they couldn't have. But I mean, Michael Phelps was that 1639 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:48,479 Speaker 1: guy for me. 1640 01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:50,360 Speaker 3: You had you had a moment with him. 1641 01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,880 Speaker 1: I talked to him for briefly. You know. I doubt 1642 01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,040 Speaker 1: he remembers that, but like it was, you know, I 1643 01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:56,600 Speaker 1: didn't want to be one of those people. But I 1644 01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,280 Speaker 1: just knew after seeing how Tom has to go through it, 1645 01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,240 Speaker 1: watching what he did with the opening ceremonies, how kind 1646 01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,600 Speaker 1: he was to everybody. He could have easily been like nah, like, 1647 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,519 Speaker 1: but he was so nice to everybody. Great dude, man 1648 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,400 Speaker 1: and then just a dog when he got in the pool, 1649 01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:11,519 Speaker 1: like just dominant. 1650 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,519 Speaker 3: Did you have any buzzby in the NFL guy, though, yeah, I. 1651 01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,720 Speaker 1: Mean a little bit. A lot of guys want to 1652 01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,840 Speaker 1: talk about what's the league? Like, you know, I was 1653 01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:20,720 Speaker 1: gonna play in the league, you know, everybody told me 1654 01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:24,439 Speaker 1: how they were gonna play in the league. Yeah, okay, yeah, 1655 01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,960 Speaker 1: so you know, we we had a lot of conversations. 1656 01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,400 Speaker 1: Everybody was really cool though. I mean a lot of 1657 01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,559 Speaker 1: these sports aren't, you know, on the on the stage 1658 01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,000 Speaker 1: that the NFL is. So you know, these guys, you 1659 01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,240 Speaker 1: got a lot more humble people that you know, just 1660 01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,639 Speaker 1: are are more down to earth. So yeah, a lot 1661 01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,120 Speaker 1: of good people and just so much respect across the 1662 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:47,200 Speaker 1: board because the best of what they do, regardless of 1663 01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:49,519 Speaker 1: what it was, doing anything at an elite level like 1664 01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,760 Speaker 1: that is uh, you know, you gotta tip your hat 1665 01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 1: to him. So, you know, a lot of a lot 1666 01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:56,599 Speaker 1: of a lot of dolls out there. 1667 01:14:56,720 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I mean fuck, that's like the the collection. 1668 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,840 Speaker 2: That's like the dog pound. Yeah, literally the dog that's 1669 01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:07,000 Speaker 2: the dog pound over there. What was the coolest Olympic perk? 1670 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:11,000 Speaker 1: He got? Got a lot of cool swag, got some 1671 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,880 Speaker 1: sweet bags perk though. 1672 01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,120 Speaker 3: See he NFL guy, he got perk. 1673 01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:16,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1674 01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 2: You got the Ohio State perk. When you're from Ohio, 1675 01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,439 Speaker 2: you live in Ohio state, and you live in Ohio, 1676 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:23,920 Speaker 2: you don't need any other perks. It's like gold baby, 1677 01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:25,160 Speaker 2: It's gold. 1678 01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:26,400 Speaker 1: God's God's country. 1679 01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:27,920 Speaker 3: That's God's country. 1680 01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:31,360 Speaker 1: God's country out there, God's country. So no, I mean, yeah, 1681 01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,120 Speaker 1: we got some pretty cool swag, you know. 1682 01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,960 Speaker 2: So freaking let's go, Jackie break down the USA rugby team. 1683 01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,120 Speaker 6: I'll say the stage here, but Nate jump in and 1684 01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,719 Speaker 6: love up on these dudes and give us the context. 1685 01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,600 Speaker 6: But we talked about head coach Mike Friday earlier is 1686 01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:49,519 Speaker 6: a twelve man roster, seven play but twelve traveled correct. 1687 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:51,600 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, you remember I used to wear the 1688 01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,719 Speaker 2: rugby shorts to practice. 1689 01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so real quick, I'm I'm gonna tell this. So 1690 01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,600 Speaker 1: after the Olympics, Mike Friday one to come see the 1691 01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:04,200 Speaker 1: Patriots and how we like operated, you know, as an organization, 1692 01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,280 Speaker 1: see what he could take from it. But you know, 1693 01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,400 Speaker 1: we get into practice and he starts fanboying Jules. But 1694 01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,160 Speaker 1: he didn't know, he didn't know who Jewels is. And 1695 01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,439 Speaker 1: he came up to me. We were doing one on 1696 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,320 Speaker 1: one tackling drill and you got a nice little goose 1697 01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:21,240 Speaker 1: step on you, and Mike's like, who's the eleven, Who's 1698 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,360 Speaker 1: the who's the eleven? That's how you know he's British. 1699 01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,400 Speaker 1: I can't, you know, do that English accident. But that's 1700 01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,639 Speaker 1: how you talk about Ruby players. You know, your position 1701 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,160 Speaker 1: is your number and who's the eleven? And he just 1702 01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:32,439 Speaker 1: kept saying that over and I was like, that's julian An. 1703 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:34,840 Speaker 1: He'd be good that that guy. We got to get him. 1704 01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,040 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't think so, but he would. 1705 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,080 Speaker 1: You would have been a hell of a playmaker, man. 1706 01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,800 Speaker 2: He probably some of the official TV USA things they 1707 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:46,080 Speaker 2: went up. Balls would be hanging out. I'd be aring 1708 01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:49,120 Speaker 2: him at practice and stuff. You know, it was so 1709 01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:50,679 Speaker 2: funny to couch brother. 1710 01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:57,280 Speaker 1: You'd have been an elite player in the middle of 1711 01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,120 Speaker 1: the feel when we needed someone to just make a 1712 01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,040 Speaker 1: switch of direction and get an edge on somebody when 1713 01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:04,920 Speaker 1: guys are kind of standing still with the ball. Your 1714 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,840 Speaker 1: your quickness would have been, you know, tough to deal with. 1715 01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:09,720 Speaker 1: And you would have tackled too. Yeah, you'd have been 1716 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:10,760 Speaker 1: a great rugby player. 1717 01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:11,960 Speaker 2: I would have been a mite. 1718 01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:13,840 Speaker 1: I know you wouldn't. It would have been a nine 1719 01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:18,639 Speaker 1: or a hooker, scrum half or fly half probably in sevens. 1720 01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,639 Speaker 2: Wait they can you explain that to the non rugby 1721 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:22,240 Speaker 2: fan viewers. 1722 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,519 Speaker 1: Scrumhouse a guy putting the ball in to the scrum 1723 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,600 Speaker 1: the the ten is the fly half who's kind of 1724 01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:33,400 Speaker 1: like the quarterback, the distributor. Oh tight. You know you 1725 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,920 Speaker 1: got guys on the wing that are four to three 1726 01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:41,040 Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones, Carl and Isle's just stupid fast light. But 1727 01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,280 Speaker 1: you're more of like, I know, you're gonna tackle in 1728 01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,280 Speaker 1: the middle, and your short area of quickness is you know, 1729 01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,000 Speaker 1: elite level. I want you in the middle, and and 1730 01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:50,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a high motor. You're gonna work hard. 1731 01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:52,240 Speaker 1: And the guys in the middle got to run a 1732 01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,519 Speaker 1: lot to keep the spacing from gapping out because you 1733 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,400 Speaker 1: get tired and you just leave gaps to hitch up 1734 01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,639 Speaker 1: the middle. So you gotta run all out side to side. 1735 01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,040 Speaker 1: So you you definitely would have been and somewhere in 1736 01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:06,000 Speaker 1: that middle space that Madison Hughes baby or Stevie Thomas 1737 01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:09,280 Speaker 1: sin you know. But yeah, you'd have been definitely in there, 1738 01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,240 Speaker 1: you know, chopping it up when we needed somebody to 1739 01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,519 Speaker 1: get a half break. Hell yeah. And then you'd be 1740 01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,360 Speaker 1: doing that out the back someone's tackling you flip it, 1741 01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,560 Speaker 1: you know, hit it, or you give it to me 1742 01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:21,519 Speaker 1: to crash it up a little bit, or you give 1743 01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,240 Speaker 1: it to one of them fast guys to finish after 1744 01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,720 Speaker 1: you get halfway through. That's kind of what I did, is. 1745 01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:27,040 Speaker 2: I got I had a breakaway. 1746 01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:30,080 Speaker 1: I know you did, but not. 1747 01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:32,240 Speaker 2: From behind. 1748 01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:33,920 Speaker 1: Carlin's like four to two fast. 1749 01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:39,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, like Jeff Dempsey, Like, remember I did fast on Carlin. 1750 01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:41,599 Speaker 1: I played in the NFL for ten years and Carlin 1751 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,800 Speaker 1: was the fastest athlete I've ever been around. You know, 1752 01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,519 Speaker 1: he's also one hundred and seventy pounds, but like he 1753 01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,920 Speaker 1: he if you give him and like, you give him 1754 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,600 Speaker 1: a little bit too much space, like like Worthy, you 1755 01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,960 Speaker 1: ain't catching him Worthy. 1756 01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:55,559 Speaker 2: He's fast. 1757 01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but imagine that guy. Honestly, that's how big is Xavior. 1758 01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,160 Speaker 2: Worthy is the hunter on on a soccer. 1759 01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,000 Speaker 1: Field with with only seven guys defending, maybe even six 1760 01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,160 Speaker 1: because one's sweeping. Yeah, there's just so much space if 1761 01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:08,960 Speaker 1: he sits you down and takes you around the outside, 1762 01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,200 Speaker 1: Like it's just their speed's different, bro, Like what about 1763 01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:15,920 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill his top ends? I mean, yeah, Tyrek's fast 1764 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,519 Speaker 1: as hell, So how would he be good? He would 1765 01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,400 Speaker 1: be just fine. Yeah, he would be just fine. But 1766 01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,040 Speaker 1: I think he's shorter of your quickness too. 1767 01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:24,320 Speaker 2: He's like that, he's elite. 1768 01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's he'd be he'd be good. 1769 01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:30,960 Speaker 2: Off topic. If you were in prime, If we were 1770 01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:32,880 Speaker 2: in prime and flag football came in, would you try 1771 01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,320 Speaker 2: to go to flag football? I would you would? 1772 01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:36,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure you would. 1773 01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,200 Speaker 2: I want to go. I want to be Olympic village. 1774 01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,400 Speaker 2: I want to see I want to see fucking other 1775 01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,080 Speaker 2: countries and opening ceremony. 1776 01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,479 Speaker 1: That's so cool. It is cool play for Israel. We 1777 01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:48,360 Speaker 1: can do the Maccabeer games. We could. 1778 01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,840 Speaker 2: We could do it together, fellow in our forties, in 1779 01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:58,000 Speaker 2: our forties, Yeah right, you borrow hamstring? Got it? 1780 01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,640 Speaker 6: When we're forty check you get into the team. This 1781 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:04,000 Speaker 6: was also we gotta, we gotta acknowledge. This was also 1782 01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:07,759 Speaker 6: the season that the men's seven's upset New Zealand correct 1783 01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:11,479 Speaker 6: mate uh fifteen qualifying year. 1784 01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:15,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. So they they played in the last World Series 1785 01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:20,559 Speaker 1: event leading into the Olympic year and they they they 1786 01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:25,160 Speaker 1: won the London World Series event. So there's multiple series events, 1787 01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,280 Speaker 1: like I said, Hong Kong I said, Singapore, France, London 1788 01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,680 Speaker 1: was the last one, and the USA had won that 1789 01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:36,200 Speaker 1: last that first time we've ever won a tournament. It's 1790 01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,160 Speaker 1: one thing to finish in the top four and go 1791 01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,360 Speaker 1: to the Cup rounds where you're playing to go to gold. 1792 01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,360 Speaker 1: But we had never done that. So for us to 1793 01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,360 Speaker 1: do that leading into what would be the Olympics was 1794 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:46,679 Speaker 1: a really big deal. 1795 01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,559 Speaker 6: Wow, Like can you put that in NFL terms, US 1796 01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:51,680 Speaker 6: beating New Zealand, Well, it's I. 1797 01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,680 Speaker 1: Mean in sevens, US beating New Zealand is not as 1798 01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:56,760 Speaker 1: big as the deal as like we have yet to 1799 01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:01,880 Speaker 1: beat them in fifteenth, so fifteen means is the big boy. 1800 01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:07,599 Speaker 1: But I mean, just for us to win a tournament, 1801 01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, when we've been a part of the series 1802 01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,720 Speaker 1: for you know, twenty years and you you know, we 1803 01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,360 Speaker 1: finally get into the Olympics and then USA qualifies and 1804 01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,800 Speaker 1: we win a tournament, I mean that momentum was was 1805 01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,920 Speaker 1: really good, and you know, you start to see the 1806 01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,599 Speaker 1: USA really can put it together. And then you get 1807 01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:26,680 Speaker 1: guys like I'll let you get into this, Oh no, 1808 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:31,439 Speaker 1: I appreciate. You get guys like Harry Baker, who he 1809 01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,439 Speaker 1: was two time, which you don't have up here, is 1810 01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:36,080 Speaker 1: two time Player of the World. So they pick a 1811 01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,080 Speaker 1: player of the Series in sevens and he was he 1812 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,639 Speaker 1: was I think it was seventeen and eighteen or nineteen 1813 01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,880 Speaker 1: something like that. But he was two time Player of 1814 01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:44,960 Speaker 1: the World as an American. 1815 01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:45,439 Speaker 2: Wow. 1816 01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,040 Speaker 1: You know, so that those those things were so big 1817 01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,679 Speaker 1: for rugby. And then obviously we lead into the women 1818 01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,240 Speaker 1: winning a bronze medal this year, Like it's just it's 1819 01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:55,280 Speaker 1: trend of that, dude. I mean, I don't know if 1820 01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:57,280 Speaker 1: you watched the end of a little bit, Oh yeah, dude. 1821 01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:00,120 Speaker 1: So the end of that game, the USA is like 1822 01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,719 Speaker 1: losing in this there's no time left, and this USA 1823 01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,040 Speaker 1: girl gets the ball and she basically stiff arms this 1824 01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,200 Speaker 1: other girl to her back and runs like eighty meters 1825 01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:09,320 Speaker 1: to score with no time left. 1826 01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:09,760 Speaker 2: Wow. 1827 01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:11,320 Speaker 1: And then she had to she had to make the 1828 01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:14,760 Speaker 1: kick to win it. Yeah, but just a stiffy to try, 1829 01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:17,560 Speaker 1: stiffy to the back and then everybody chasing her, I 1830 01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,720 Speaker 1: mean in the bronze medal match, like so awesome. But 1831 01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:22,960 Speaker 1: it was huge because we've been in these Olympics now 1832 01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,320 Speaker 1: this was the third one and we had medaled, and 1833 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:27,479 Speaker 1: you know, for the women to get go in there 1834 01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,280 Speaker 1: and get it done, it's just huge for the game. 1835 01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,960 Speaker 2: Who is who is your boy on the team, who's 1836 01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:34,320 Speaker 2: your who'd you hang out with the most? 1837 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,880 Speaker 1: I would say probably Danny Barrett who's not up there, 1838 01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,880 Speaker 1: which I mean, if you got thirty seconds, you need 1839 01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:44,120 Speaker 1: a YouTube Danny Barrett. 1840 01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:48,040 Speaker 5: So I've been I've been dming with Danny. Yeah, he 1841 01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:50,800 Speaker 5: wants me to ask you about the time you bitched out. 1842 01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,640 Speaker 1: See I already told he couldn't wait to say that. 1843 01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,000 Speaker 1: Well if if he wants to do that, so. 1844 01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,320 Speaker 5: Said at the time he bitched out and I physically 1845 01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,880 Speaker 5: dominated him in the wrestling conditioning. 1846 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:06,400 Speaker 1: So we were I was talking about that at the 1847 01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:10,080 Speaker 1: beginning when I first got there, you know, as actually 1848 01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,320 Speaker 1: had him folded up pretty good for the first five seconds. 1849 01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,519 Speaker 1: But it was like a three minute wrestling match, and 1850 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,680 Speaker 1: after like thirty seconds, dude, I was done. And this 1851 01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:18,599 Speaker 1: dude was like ragged all of me around, and I'm 1852 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:20,439 Speaker 1: just like, fuck, I got nothing. 1853 01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,640 Speaker 2: That is that a drill you guys get Yeah, we 1854 01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:23,280 Speaker 2: just wrestled. 1855 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:25,519 Speaker 1: So we would do these things called Yaka yards, and 1856 01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,840 Speaker 1: they called him Yaka because guys would yack. Yeah, so 1857 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,040 Speaker 1: we would. It's forty five minutes of stations like that. 1858 01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,320 Speaker 1: So for three minutes, me and Danny wrestle, and then 1859 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,240 Speaker 1: for three minutes we do updowns, and then for three 1860 01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,720 Speaker 1: minutes you bear crawl with somebody on your back and 1861 01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:41,200 Speaker 1: you just for forty five minutes. Oh, it's insane. But 1862 01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:43,560 Speaker 1: I just remember I blew it out too. I was like, 1863 01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm you know, and I had Danny up locked up, 1864 01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:47,840 Speaker 1: and then I'm just like, dude, blow the whistle, bro, 1865 01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,080 Speaker 1: and They're like, you're not even halfway into this thing, 1866 01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:52,680 Speaker 1: oh dude. And then we did another two rounds of 1867 01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,080 Speaker 1: it and I just was done. Yeah, he got the 1868 01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,120 Speaker 1: best of me there, but I since I got the 1869 01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,360 Speaker 1: mic right now, we did have in those Olympics game 1870 01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,240 Speaker 1: tryout games or whatever we had me and him had 1871 01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:06,080 Speaker 1: a little one on one tackle session with him and 1872 01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,560 Speaker 1: the ball when he had the ball, and I'm just 1873 01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:10,519 Speaker 1: gonna say I got the better of that that tackle. 1874 01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:11,559 Speaker 2: Who Danny Barrett. 1875 01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:15,280 Speaker 5: He also wants to talk about fake Paris in the 1876 01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:16,679 Speaker 5: time that a coach had to play. 1877 01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,920 Speaker 1: Oh, fake Paris. So when we went to so we 1878 01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,200 Speaker 1: went to Hong Kong and Singapore. We came back and 1879 01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:25,920 Speaker 1: then the last two events were Paris and then London. 1880 01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,360 Speaker 1: So I went to Paris, played a little bit and 1881 01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:31,720 Speaker 1: I had a coach with or coach. I had to 1882 01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,920 Speaker 1: talk with coach Mike Friday about like I'm not playing enough, 1883 01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:36,960 Speaker 1: and I need to get ready for the Olympics. So 1884 01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,160 Speaker 1: they brought what's the B squad, which was the Falcons. 1885 01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,000 Speaker 1: So the Eagles are the main squad. Those guys went 1886 01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,240 Speaker 1: on to London to play in that final tournament. I 1887 01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,840 Speaker 1: actually went with the Falcons to play in what we 1888 01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:51,240 Speaker 1: called fake Paris. So they told the whole Falcons team, 1889 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,240 Speaker 1: so we have like thirty guys on the roster, but 1890 01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,760 Speaker 1: only twelve guys get selected for these big events. But 1891 01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:58,360 Speaker 1: all these other guys need to play tournaments. So they 1892 01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,400 Speaker 1: tell all these guys that aren't know on the main squad, Hey, 1893 01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:03,639 Speaker 1: we're gonna fly you out to Paris and you're gonna 1894 01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:05,519 Speaker 1: play in the tournament. So we're all going to Paris. 1895 01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:07,720 Speaker 1: And then we go down like two and a half 1896 01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:09,920 Speaker 1: three hours south of Paris and this little town called 1897 01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:13,320 Speaker 1: Tours Tours, France, and so we just all everyone just 1898 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,120 Speaker 1: started calling, Oh, we're in Paris, fake Paris. So we're 1899 01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,879 Speaker 1: just so that we're in we're in this place, Tours, 1900 01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,960 Speaker 1: and we played in this tournament and so many guys 1901 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,479 Speaker 1: got hurt. We didn't have any more people that our 1902 01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,639 Speaker 1: assistant coach had to put his cleats on and play 1903 01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:31,040 Speaker 1: in the final game, and we was he couldn't run, 1904 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,960 Speaker 1: he's all, you know, and uh it. But it's just 1905 01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,719 Speaker 1: that's rugby forore. You know, guys, coach puts his cleats 1906 01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:38,680 Speaker 1: on and comes out with us. 1907 01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:39,719 Speaker 2: Who is the team? Matagine? 1908 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:43,640 Speaker 1: Could you imagine like chatty chatty chatty O putting his 1909 01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:47,120 Speaker 1: cleats on and going out in practice both slate right now? 1910 01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:49,240 Speaker 1: Huh slate's different. 1911 01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,879 Speaker 2: Get it's different, but I think they can play still. Yeah, absolutely, 1912 01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,080 Speaker 2: he's still hitting twenty one or something. 1913 01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:57,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's a freak. 1914 01:25:58,040 --> 01:25:59,679 Speaker 6: You want to get into these games there a little 1915 01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:04,040 Speaker 6: bit the Olympics itself, so twelve teams in this thing. 1916 01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,720 Speaker 6: The US is in pool A, Fiji, USA, Argentina, and 1917 01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,679 Speaker 6: Brazil's the auto qualifier because they're the hosts. 1918 01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:13,679 Speaker 2: August. This is August, baby. 1919 01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:17,200 Speaker 6: You guys are in training camp uh ebbs over here 1920 01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:20,479 Speaker 6: in Brazil August. First they get there, they got a 1921 01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:24,680 Speaker 6: let's see here, twelve group play matches, six group play 1922 01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,920 Speaker 6: matches in August ninth, tenth, and eleventh, so three day event. 1923 01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:32,120 Speaker 1: So it's for us. We were playing basically two games 1924 01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:32,479 Speaker 1: a day. 1925 01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's crazy with sevens, two and a day. 1926 01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, well some tournaments we played three a day. 1927 01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:40,400 Speaker 2: Now, what's he's just. 1928 01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,599 Speaker 1: No, it's just four it's to seven minute halves. Oh, 1929 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,840 Speaker 1: the whole game is like fourteen minutes, fourteen plus, so 1930 01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:53,160 Speaker 1: usually extras, some extras. But before that, you had us 1931 01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,240 Speaker 1: going to Florida. So we went down to Florida before 1932 01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,960 Speaker 1: as like an Olympic warm up, and then we met 1933 01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,599 Speaker 1: the All Blacks. Whoa, and it was just like us 1934 01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,800 Speaker 1: in the All Black scrimmage for like two days, and 1935 01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:04,519 Speaker 1: I'd say, like, that's the best I've ever played in 1936 01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,400 Speaker 1: my life. Like the Olympics was good and all, but like, 1937 01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:10,000 Speaker 1: I like, played so good against All Blacks, Like I 1938 01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,040 Speaker 1: thought at that point, I was like I need to 1939 01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:13,479 Speaker 1: start every game, you know what I mean, Like I 1940 01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:17,000 Speaker 1: played really well there. But yeah, then you know we 1941 01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:20,479 Speaker 1: went from there, had had a week or so in 1942 01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,880 Speaker 1: in Rio, and and then it's like you got three 1943 01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:27,160 Speaker 1: days tournament in six games. You gotta make it, make 1944 01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:27,559 Speaker 1: it pop. 1945 01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:29,160 Speaker 2: Would have been a Disney movie if you guys would 1946 01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:30,160 Speaker 2: have beat the All Blacks in the final. 1947 01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:33,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, well they didn't. They didn't make it the they 1948 01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,439 Speaker 1: didn't make it, not to the finals. So you're going 1949 01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:40,120 Speaker 1: to talk you through this. So we've got this is 1950 01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:45,320 Speaker 1: our pool, Fiji, USA, obviously, Argentina, and Brazil. Fiji is 1951 01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,799 Speaker 1: the best team in the world in sevens and seven's, 1952 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:51,240 Speaker 1: Fiji is the best in the world. They've won because 1953 01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:54,800 Speaker 1: they just they grow up playing that game and they've 1954 01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,040 Speaker 1: got this like connection where they'll just throw the ball 1955 01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,200 Speaker 1: in a scenario where you just don't expect it and 1956 01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,639 Speaker 1: the other guy seems to be right on it. Their 1957 01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:07,080 Speaker 1: gameplay is so unorthodox but just flows so beautifully like 1958 01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:10,920 Speaker 1: and they're all big and you know, you know, I 1959 01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:12,840 Speaker 1: gotta show you the guy I was playing marking against 1960 01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,479 Speaker 1: when we played Fiji. But so we get this terrible draw, 1961 01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,880 Speaker 1: really because Argentina is coming up as one of the 1962 01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,639 Speaker 1: better teams in the world. I think we were ranked 1963 01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,519 Speaker 1: ahead of them, but that's that was kind of skewed. 1964 01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,320 Speaker 1: And then we get Brazil, which is like the home nation, 1965 01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:28,080 Speaker 1: so you know they're gonna come out and play their 1966 01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:31,519 Speaker 1: faces off because like they're hosting the olympicat So we 1967 01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,640 Speaker 1: start out with Argentina. You know, they get out on us. 1968 01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,120 Speaker 1: I think I would say I think like the moment 1969 01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:40,040 Speaker 1: was a little big. This is the first Olympics. It's 1970 01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:42,600 Speaker 1: a big moment, and I think it's just like the 1971 01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:44,599 Speaker 1: moment was a little big for some of the guys. Yeah, 1972 01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,519 Speaker 1: and they get out like ten or fourteen, nothing on us. 1973 01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:49,640 Speaker 1: And you know, I like to say I came in 1974 01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:51,640 Speaker 1: at halftime, was an impact player. Got it. We were 1975 01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:56,120 Speaker 1: winning with no time left, and I remember there was 1976 01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,280 Speaker 1: there was extra time though, Like so when we scored 1977 01:28:58,320 --> 01:28:59,800 Speaker 1: the try, there was still a couple of second stuff. 1978 01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:04,320 Speaker 1: So the ref wanted a kickoff, and so we did 1979 01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,560 Speaker 1: a kickoff. We didn't you know, we didn't kick the 1980 01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,000 Speaker 1: pair of myself like we try to go opposite. It 1981 01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,920 Speaker 1: didn't go ten, which means automatically they get the ball 1982 01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:13,519 Speaker 1: in the fifty and they quick tap it and we 1983 01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,320 Speaker 1: were just scramble mode. One guy shoots up and like 1984 01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,800 Speaker 1: no time left, like we had the game one. We 1985 01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,479 Speaker 1: just needed to get out situational ball where the is 1986 01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:25,320 Speaker 1: our defense exactly. You know, I was a proponent. It's like, 1987 01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:27,200 Speaker 1: there's no time left, let's kick it ninety and like 1988 01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:29,719 Speaker 1: let's make it and let's make him go handy because 1989 01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:32,479 Speaker 1: you know, it's just situational ball. It's just something we 1990 01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:36,160 Speaker 1: didn't do. Anyways, they scored with no time left. That 1991 01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:40,920 Speaker 1: that was. That was heartbreaking. So then we go play Brazil. 1992 01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:42,720 Speaker 1: I think that was the game the team watched. You 1993 01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:44,240 Speaker 1: guys watched things Brazil. 1994 01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:45,639 Speaker 3: I remember what I remember that game. 1995 01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,280 Speaker 1: I scored it and got yellow carded in that game. 1996 01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:49,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, he wanted. 1997 01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,840 Speaker 1: That s why you're so selfish for getting a yellow 1998 01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:55,200 Speaker 1: card in that game, dude. This guy keeps dumbying. This 1999 01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:57,800 Speaker 1: guy is running, he's kind of like not passing. I said, 2000 01:29:57,880 --> 01:29:59,639 Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm laying this dude out. And right when 2001 01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:01,439 Speaker 1: I made the decision, he let it go. 2002 01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:02,479 Speaker 2: And you can't do that. 2003 01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:06,040 Speaker 1: But I had committed to smoking this dude, and you 2004 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,240 Speaker 1: know I probably should have. He'd let the ball go, 2005 01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,240 Speaker 1: pull off and just give him a shoulder. But I 2006 01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:14,320 Speaker 1: buried him the quarterback and I broke his ribs out. 2007 01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,400 Speaker 1: It was a good hit, but I got carded. And 2008 01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:18,200 Speaker 1: he's right. I mean I shouldn't have done it. Was 2009 01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:20,280 Speaker 1: it was a bad play, but you know we handled 2010 01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:20,679 Speaker 1: that game. 2011 01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,720 Speaker 2: Can't win until you keep from losing, Yeah, until you 2012 01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:25,400 Speaker 2: keep from losing. 2013 01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:30,280 Speaker 1: So another bill is that's like the best one to me. 2014 01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:32,840 Speaker 1: Can't win until you keep from losing. Didn't make any sense. 2015 01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:36,000 Speaker 1: Until he started talking about him. Yeah. So then we 2016 01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,519 Speaker 1: got to play Fiji, and we know we lost to Argentina. 2017 01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:40,320 Speaker 1: So at this point we're like, we we we have 2018 01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:43,200 Speaker 1: to win this game because they're the best, because we 2019 01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:45,120 Speaker 1: we lost this one to Argentina and the top two 2020 01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,639 Speaker 1: go through, so we have to beat Fiji and they're 2021 01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, they're the best. And I mean you see 2022 01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:52,439 Speaker 1: that score. We lost by five, like we you know, 2023 01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,160 Speaker 1: we were we were in this game. We had this 2024 01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,439 Speaker 1: game too, and that was a heartbreaker because we knew, 2025 01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:00,519 Speaker 1: you know, we didn't we didn't get it done. And 2026 01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,679 Speaker 1: then by point differential, the All Blacks actually were third 2027 01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,280 Speaker 1: in their pool, but they had just a slight lesser 2028 01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:08,720 Speaker 1: point differential or better than us, and they got to 2029 01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,080 Speaker 1: go into the cup rounds. And so at that point 2030 01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:13,280 Speaker 1: we were out of the medal rounds because and we 2031 01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:16,360 Speaker 1: won the rest of our games, but you know, we 2032 01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,799 Speaker 1: lost to what would be the gold medalist in Fiji. 2033 01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:20,360 Speaker 3: I remember that. 2034 01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:25,080 Speaker 1: And Argentina goes to the semi final match to go 2035 01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:27,920 Speaker 1: to the gold medal match and they're playing Great Britain 2036 01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:31,320 Speaker 1: and they go to overtime. Britain won it, right, they went, yeah, 2037 01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:34,599 Speaker 1: and they want Britain won in overtime against Argentina. Argentina 2038 01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:36,720 Speaker 1: was gas from that ended up losing the bronze medal 2039 01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:40,200 Speaker 1: match to South Africa. But they were that close overtime 2040 01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,040 Speaker 1: to go into the gold medal match. So you would 2041 01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:45,280 Speaker 1: have had in our pool both Fiji and Argentina. But 2042 01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:48,559 Speaker 1: so Argentina doesn't get it done, great Britain ends up 2043 01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,560 Speaker 1: going to the gold medal match Fiji beis some like 2044 01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:53,000 Speaker 1: forty seven to five just destroys them. But like I 2045 01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:56,479 Speaker 1: just say that because we had a very strong pool 2046 01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:58,880 Speaker 1: and we had it with both teams and you know, 2047 01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:00,680 Speaker 1: I really felt like we had a good team and 2048 01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:02,320 Speaker 1: we had a chance to medal. It. It just it 2049 01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:05,439 Speaker 1: just at that point got away from us. But uh man, 2050 01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:07,160 Speaker 1: what a what a great experience, dude. 2051 01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:12,000 Speaker 2: Now, can you do some rugby for dummies for us? Okay, 2052 01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:14,479 Speaker 2: what's the score? A score is called a try? 2053 01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:18,120 Speaker 1: A touchdown is it? You gotta cross the angle, but 2054 01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,160 Speaker 1: you have to actually touch the ball to the ground 2055 01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:20,719 Speaker 1: with control. 2056 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,320 Speaker 2: Touchdown, Yes, that's where touchdown came from. 2057 01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:24,320 Speaker 1: You're brilliant. 2058 01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:26,400 Speaker 3: And then so it tries? How many points? 2059 01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:26,599 Speaker 2: Three? 2060 01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:31,160 Speaker 1: Try is five? The conversion no tree try ain't none 2061 01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:34,960 Speaker 1: of that. Try is five points, lay a touchdown. 2062 01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:35,640 Speaker 2: Is trying to understand this? 2063 01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:38,400 Speaker 1: Would do you want me to explain it? Try is 2064 01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:42,400 Speaker 1: five points and the conversion is two. So in football, 2065 01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:44,880 Speaker 1: the touchdown is six points. The extra point is one, 2066 01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,320 Speaker 1: so in total you get seven like you would in football, 2067 01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:50,160 Speaker 1: but the conversion is harder. So if you score in 2068 01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:52,479 Speaker 1: the corner, you don't get to kick from the middle 2069 01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:54,360 Speaker 1: of the field like in an extra point in football 2070 01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:57,080 Speaker 1: every time, so you have to actually go from the sideline. 2071 01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:58,519 Speaker 1: If you score on the sideline, you have to pull 2072 01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:00,240 Speaker 1: it straight back and pull as far back as you want, 2073 01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,280 Speaker 1: and then you got to drop kick it in sevens 2074 01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:03,920 Speaker 1: through the upright. 2075 01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:10,320 Speaker 2: From cross the goal line close to the sideline. Yeah, 2076 01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:13,040 Speaker 2: and I'm like, fuck, I'm not a really good kicker, 2077 01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:13,479 Speaker 2: so I got. 2078 01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:15,000 Speaker 1: To bring this thing to You want to go to 2079 01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:15,760 Speaker 1: the middle every time. 2080 01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:17,080 Speaker 2: So I'm going to the middle. But what if I 2081 01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:20,200 Speaker 2: lose the ball? It's not worth that, you know, So 2082 01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,160 Speaker 2: if I lose the ball, is that is that considered? 2083 01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:23,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? No, we'll get it. 2084 01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:25,280 Speaker 2: Losing. 2085 01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:27,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, we need those points. Touch it down, but 2086 01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:29,800 Speaker 1: like sometimes you got to try to get it to 2087 01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:32,040 Speaker 1: the center to make the kick easier. But at some 2088 01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:33,800 Speaker 1: point you got to just like trust the kicker to 2089 01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:36,599 Speaker 1: make the kick, but like, yeah, you got to touch 2090 01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:38,280 Speaker 1: it down or it's not a try if I picked 2091 01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:39,759 Speaker 1: you up or knocked the ball out of your hands 2092 01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:41,200 Speaker 1: and took you out the back of the end zone, 2093 01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:45,840 Speaker 1: like you know, it's yeah sort of yeah anyway, so 2094 01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:49,800 Speaker 1: you you you basically you pass backwards in later or 2095 01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:53,439 Speaker 1: no forward, no forward passes. The ball goes backwards and 2096 01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:58,839 Speaker 1: you run forwards. And basically the reason the game continues 2097 01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:00,760 Speaker 1: to flow is because of what's all the ruck. And 2098 01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,519 Speaker 1: so when someone gets tackled, they place the ball back 2099 01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:06,720 Speaker 1: towards their team. There's a ruck, which is a competition 2100 01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:08,760 Speaker 1: over the ball. The defense tries to steal it, but 2101 01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,439 Speaker 1: the offensive guys you know, seals it the support play 2102 01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:13,960 Speaker 1: and then the ball gets played away and the ball 2103 01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:16,200 Speaker 1: is the line of scrimmage in that sense. So once 2104 01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:18,160 Speaker 1: that tackle gets made, we have a new line of scrimmage. 2105 01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:21,960 Speaker 1: Ball gets passed out, run around, pass past past, tackle 2106 01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,000 Speaker 1: gets made a new line of scrimmage. And so the 2107 01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,880 Speaker 1: defense always has to retreat to that you know, back 2108 01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:28,960 Speaker 1: foot of that ruck every time there's a tackle, and 2109 01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:32,920 Speaker 1: you just continually flow and you know, that's pretty much 2110 01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:33,519 Speaker 1: the gist of it. 2111 01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:37,719 Speaker 2: Now, it's the most complicated rule, like for like dummies, 2112 01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:38,799 Speaker 2: Oh man. 2113 01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,280 Speaker 1: What's the most complicated. I mean, you know, they just 2114 01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:44,080 Speaker 1: implemented the fifty to twenty two rule. That's like, if 2115 01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:47,200 Speaker 1: you kick it from behind the fifty and it rolls 2116 01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:50,000 Speaker 1: out of bounds behind the twenty two, which is the 2117 01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:52,680 Speaker 1: red zone, you actually get to keep that line out. 2118 01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:54,560 Speaker 1: But if the ball goes out on the full, the 2119 01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:56,040 Speaker 1: other team gets the line up from where you kicked 2120 01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:58,519 Speaker 1: it from. I'd say, like line out rules or like 2121 01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:01,640 Speaker 1: rock penalties in front actions where like guy's hands are 2122 01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:05,280 Speaker 1: on the ground or scrummage penalties for me, are stuff 2123 01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:09,920 Speaker 1: that gets confusing, be like offensive line. You know, technicalities 2124 01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:12,720 Speaker 1: with cut blocks that people don't understand what's legal and 2125 01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:16,519 Speaker 1: what's not can get messy. But ultimately you pass backwards, 2126 01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:18,679 Speaker 1: you run forward, someone gets tackled, you kind of reset 2127 01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:21,960 Speaker 1: and played away. It's like basketball, man, it's free flowing, 2128 01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:25,679 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's fast. It's fast break basketball 2129 01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:28,400 Speaker 1: to me. Like sometimes in basketball it's five on five. 2130 01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,040 Speaker 1: You get a set piece, you know, we call it 2131 01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:31,800 Speaker 1: pick and roll, and you know, you could shoot it, 2132 01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:33,880 Speaker 1: you could pass it, and we call that off of 2133 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,240 Speaker 1: a scrum. You got a switch, you called that earlier. 2134 01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:38,639 Speaker 1: Maybe you give that, maybe you dumb it. Maybe somebody 2135 01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:40,680 Speaker 1: comes on a short line. You kind of have these suggestions, 2136 01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:42,240 Speaker 1: but you take what the defense gives you. That's what 2137 01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:45,760 Speaker 1: basketball is. And then you have these like fast break situations, 2138 01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,160 Speaker 1: you know, two on ones, three on twos and you 2139 01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:51,000 Speaker 1: just gotta pass. And what hockey, Yeah, hockey as well, 2140 01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:52,880 Speaker 1: and you have a lot of that. You try to 2141 01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,639 Speaker 1: find those fast break scenarios and exploit the space. 2142 01:35:55,760 --> 01:36:00,320 Speaker 2: But then the corner is like soccer, the corner. Yeah, 2143 01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,320 Speaker 2: if there's balls getting thrown in corner, the. 2144 01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:05,920 Speaker 1: Lineup, if the ball goes out of bounds, it's it's 2145 01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:09,040 Speaker 1: a it's called the head. Yeah, And that's like a 2146 01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:12,120 Speaker 1: dump ball. And that's not like a corner kick at all. 2147 01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:13,719 Speaker 1: That's what you're talking about. 2148 01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:18,000 Speaker 2: Like, didn't we used to have didn't Joe Judge design 2149 01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:20,599 Speaker 2: a fucking on site kick where you were gonna after 2150 01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:22,679 Speaker 2: a safety that you had to fucking drop kick. 2151 01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:25,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, we did. That was terrible, Like just kick it 2152 01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:26,800 Speaker 1: over the front line. We did against Philly, Yeah, we 2153 01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,960 Speaker 1: did against Philip Chip Kelly's the oc Ohio State right 2154 01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:31,560 Speaker 1: now too, and he's like, I remember you when we 2155 01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:33,800 Speaker 1: played we played against you guys, you did that drop kick. 2156 01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, the one thing you remember. Come on, 2157 01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,880 Speaker 1: it's like that terrible play. I kicked a drop kick 2158 01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:40,760 Speaker 1: in that game and it on side kick off the 2159 01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:44,400 Speaker 1: tee and James and Jamie Collins was supposed to be 2160 01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:46,720 Speaker 1: the jumper and he got hurt in that game. And 2161 01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:48,720 Speaker 1: I actually like felt like I kicked a really good one, 2162 01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:50,960 Speaker 1: but like we didn't have that Jamie Collins out there, 2163 01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:52,880 Speaker 1: and it just was like anti climatic, you know when 2164 01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:55,000 Speaker 1: we would catch on side kicks and just walk off 2165 01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:55,360 Speaker 1: the field. 2166 01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:55,640 Speaker 2: Oh. 2167 01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:57,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, we did a lot in that game. And 2168 01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,760 Speaker 1: we had we had returns where somebody pitch it to 2169 01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:02,760 Speaker 1: me and I'd rip a rugby pass across the field. 2170 01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:06,760 Speaker 2: Remember we do some Yeah on the Desperado Desperado or 2171 01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:09,040 Speaker 2: I'd be in Desperado would be our last play of 2172 01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:09,400 Speaker 2: the game. 2173 01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:12,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, So we did at We tried a lot. Never 2174 01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:13,840 Speaker 1: never came up. 2175 01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:16,880 Speaker 2: That's bullshit. That coach let Doug Flutie kick one and 2176 01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:17,640 Speaker 2: you didn't let you get well. 2177 01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:19,880 Speaker 1: Remember I was practicing some extra point. I remember that 2178 01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:22,160 Speaker 1: he wanted me to do it, and I was. I 2179 01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:24,519 Speaker 1: was feeling good about myself, but I never got never 2180 01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:25,080 Speaker 1: got the call. 2181 01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:31,080 Speaker 2: Come on, coach, Yeah, you know, just foundational pieces our success. 2182 01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:32,559 Speaker 2: Throw them a bone. 2183 01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:36,680 Speaker 1: Just hit a draft caick. We're up twenty four to three, Like, 2184 01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:37,200 Speaker 1: let me hit. 2185 01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:40,960 Speaker 2: A draft kick, can you before we go? After the 2186 01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:42,800 Speaker 2: Fiji game, you had to try almost right. 2187 01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:46,400 Speaker 1: I did score a tryo take us through that It 2188 01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:50,800 Speaker 1: was off a restart. I can't remember. I think they 2189 01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:52,719 Speaker 1: might have kicked us or I don't. I don't remember 2190 01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:56,000 Speaker 1: who kicked off. But basically one of our guys caught it. 2191 01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:59,880 Speaker 1: Made a quick guy miss or low and the guy 2192 01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:01,840 Speaker 1: was hanging on his jersey and I just came flying 2193 01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:03,519 Speaker 1: off his hip and he just gave me a little 2194 01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:06,120 Speaker 1: pop and then I just kind of went through and 2195 01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:09,080 Speaker 1: it was like a sixty meter maybe fifty meters or 2196 01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:11,320 Speaker 1: something like that. Just run. But we had it. Was 2197 01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:13,040 Speaker 1: had to have it. So I was like pedal down, 2198 01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:15,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like fuck saving my gas. 2199 01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:18,200 Speaker 1: Like when you play that game, you got to think 2200 01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:20,800 Speaker 1: about when you expend it, like a full tilt run, 2201 01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:24,240 Speaker 1: full out everything, Like it's hard to come back right 2202 01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:26,760 Speaker 1: away to go play at a high level. But I 2203 01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:29,479 Speaker 1: was like we got a score and kind of like 2204 01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,760 Speaker 1: a kind of a freebie, but I finished it, you know, 2205 01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:32,920 Speaker 1: so I felt good about that. 2206 01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:36,120 Speaker 3: And when you scored that, you think about your pop. 2207 01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:38,519 Speaker 1: I think the first one against Brazil, when you guys 2208 01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:42,800 Speaker 1: watched this play Brazil and the line like there's like 2209 01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:45,080 Speaker 1: the little details of like rat running that you know 2210 01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:47,479 Speaker 1: that it's really nice that no one will understand. Yeah, 2211 01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:51,160 Speaker 1: I had like a setup pre catch that put me 2212 01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:53,080 Speaker 1: through the hole and then just a little stiffy and 2213 01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:55,240 Speaker 1: I was through and it was just a great pass 2214 01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:58,000 Speaker 1: from Madison Hughes and I got through. And you know, 2215 01:38:58,040 --> 01:38:59,600 Speaker 1: I just had scored a try in the Olympics and 2216 01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:01,760 Speaker 1: that was a first one. And you know that was 2217 01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:04,280 Speaker 1: the one where I was like hell yeah, Fiji was 2218 01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:05,800 Speaker 1: like fuck, dude, we need to win, you know, like 2219 01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:07,600 Speaker 1: hurry up and kick off again. I was too in 2220 01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:11,160 Speaker 1: the moment, but yeah, that's that's score. It was dope. 2221 01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:15,000 Speaker 1: You should look up tweetvo so t U I v 2222 01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:18,200 Speaker 1: O s a Fiji Rugby. Look at this dude's dies 2223 01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:22,200 Speaker 1: bro like whatever you think of Saquon Barkley, Like like 2224 01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,479 Speaker 1: this dude. This is the dude I had to mark 2225 01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:27,519 Speaker 1: for Fiji. He was playing twelve and I was playing twelve. 2226 01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:31,839 Speaker 1: Those legs, yeah, whatever whatever you think of of Saquon, 2227 01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:34,040 Speaker 1: that's like, that's what look like. 2228 01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:34,840 Speaker 2: I was. 2229 01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:37,519 Speaker 1: Me and say were locker roommates when I was in 2230 01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:39,760 Speaker 1: New York. Yeah, he had some what he looked like. 2231 01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:40,519 Speaker 1: He looked just like that. 2232 01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:43,200 Speaker 2: Okay, if you put them short as shorts on, it 2233 01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:47,000 Speaker 2: looked like that. Yeah, Oh my gosh. Yeah, that dude 2234 01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:48,920 Speaker 2: he got he got high tower calves too. 2235 01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:50,920 Speaker 1: You don't even know where to tackle someone like that. 2236 01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, those knee bones probably hurt. You just gotta let 2237 01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:56,439 Speaker 2: him slide by and get on the back of it. 2238 01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:58,840 Speaker 1: That's you know, let him get off the soft sholder 2239 01:39:58,880 --> 01:39:59,720 Speaker 1: and then you do the hip. 2240 01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:03,280 Speaker 2: Do they know him dropping fucking rugby? I'm him dropping 2241 01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:03,800 Speaker 2: them legs. 2242 01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that dude was him dropping. But that was the team. Yeah, 2243 01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:10,960 Speaker 1: guys like that. Then we had some gronk six foot 2244 01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:13,960 Speaker 1: six dudes that could run. It was crazy, man, they 2245 01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:16,679 Speaker 1: were they were they were level above everybody else. 2246 01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:20,480 Speaker 2: But you know what, the United States with a teaspoon 2247 01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:24,240 Speaker 2: of fucking cement, first time in the goddamn a tourney, 2248 01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:28,479 Speaker 2: first time recognition of any kind of rugby success. You 2249 01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:30,920 Speaker 2: know what they do. I say, fuck that shee. That 2250 01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:33,439 Speaker 2: guy over there with those fucking tree trunk legs. I'm 2251 01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:37,280 Speaker 2: scared of that. Battle these bastards. That's right, baby, That's 2252 01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:39,240 Speaker 2: what we did. We did. We did battle, battle them 2253 01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:39,880 Speaker 2: to the very end. 2254 01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:40,320 Speaker 1: We did. 2255 01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:43,360 Speaker 2: They got we We like it was seventeen seventy six. 2256 01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:46,479 Speaker 1: We had a line out at the end on July fourth, Jesus. 2257 01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:49,320 Speaker 3: The bombs were bursting the air. 2258 01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:51,880 Speaker 2: But you could see that little flag just hanging up 2259 01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:54,640 Speaker 2: there in the in the with the bombs burst in 2260 01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:57,920 Speaker 2: the background, the smoke, the fire in the bombs. 2261 01:40:58,600 --> 01:40:59,439 Speaker 1: The bombs were bursting. 2262 01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:01,200 Speaker 2: Don't make me start singing it. 2263 01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:06,120 Speaker 6: Oh oh my god, getting real patriotic in here. 2264 01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:08,000 Speaker 2: What's it after? A better than Jackie. 2265 01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:10,839 Speaker 6: Fiji would go on to win the gold as Nate mentioned, 2266 01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:16,639 Speaker 6: but would win out. They would win out smacking Brazil 2267 01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,519 Speaker 6: in Spain twenty four to twelve. In both of those 2268 01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:23,719 Speaker 6: Fiji would also go on to win gold in twenty 2269 01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:27,320 Speaker 6: twenty silver in twenty twenty four, lost to France. Team 2270 01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:31,400 Speaker 6: USA finished three and two with the Olympics. Carlin Isles 2271 01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:35,519 Speaker 6: we mentioned earlier, finished most tries in the tournament. They 2272 01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:38,479 Speaker 6: would go back to the NFL, retire in twenty twenty one, 2273 01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:42,600 Speaker 6: and then Team USA Olympics seven. They'd be back in 2274 01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:44,719 Speaker 6: twenty twenty and again in twenty twenty. 2275 01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:48,760 Speaker 1: Four, say going back to the NFL after you know, 2276 01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:52,000 Speaker 1: worrying about should I go play rugby? Am I gonna 2277 01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:54,320 Speaker 1: have a football contract? And like, am I even gonna 2278 01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:57,479 Speaker 1: make the team to like making it playing well? Being healthy? 2279 01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:01,560 Speaker 1: Like my give a fuck meter so low. When I 2280 01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:04,000 Speaker 1: came back and I was super fit and I could 2281 01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:06,920 Speaker 1: all I did was tackle all summer. Like I was 2282 01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:08,920 Speaker 1: in such a good place that year. And obviously I 2283 01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:10,759 Speaker 1: had a really good year led the league, and especially 2284 01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:12,320 Speaker 1: since tack it was the second team All Pro. And 2285 01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:14,800 Speaker 1: you know, we won the Super Bowl that year. And 2286 01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:17,640 Speaker 1: I will say I'm the only person to play in 2287 01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:19,559 Speaker 1: a team sport in the Olympics ain't won a super 2288 01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:23,120 Speaker 1: Bowl in the same year. Oh yeah, but I mean 2289 01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:24,880 Speaker 1: that's a testament to be a part of a good, 2290 01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,680 Speaker 1: good team. So lucky to be a part of the 2291 01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:28,680 Speaker 1: Patriots for ason as we. 2292 01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:30,479 Speaker 2: Were, we were lucky to have you. We were all 2293 01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:32,840 Speaker 2: we were lucky to have you. In our locker room, 2294 01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:37,040 Speaker 2: and and it brings me back to that conversation you 2295 01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:40,800 Speaker 2: had with your mom. Ye, after all this this year, 2296 01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:42,760 Speaker 2: did you feel like it you find did you? 2297 01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:43,640 Speaker 1: Did you? 2298 01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:45,439 Speaker 3: Did you accomplish what you set out for? 2299 01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think like I said after the Olympics, you 2300 01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:52,759 Speaker 1: know obviously was into a second contract in the NFL, 2301 01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:56,559 Speaker 1: played in the Olympics. Kind of just you know, even 2302 01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:58,720 Speaker 1: when you go back to that walk on at Ohio State, 2303 01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:01,679 Speaker 1: it's just like if you give everything you have to something, 2304 01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:05,400 Speaker 1: like you're capable of getting it done. You just have 2305 01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:09,200 Speaker 1: to be willing to sacrifice everything. And you know that's 2306 01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:10,920 Speaker 1: kind of what my mom got out of me, was 2307 01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,600 Speaker 1: like time to fully commit to something and give it 2308 01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:15,719 Speaker 1: your all. And you know I did that again and again, 2309 01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:17,800 Speaker 1: whether it be with Ohio State or the NFL or 2310 01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:20,000 Speaker 1: with the Olympics. And you know that kind of proved 2311 01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:23,360 Speaker 1: to me like what I or anyone is capable of 2312 01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:25,880 Speaker 1: if they're really willing to give everything they have to 2313 01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:29,360 Speaker 1: something that came with a lot of sacrifice. But chasing 2314 01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:31,759 Speaker 1: your dreams is worth it for sure, and living without 2315 01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:35,040 Speaker 1: regret because you're wondering about what could have been and 2316 01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:37,080 Speaker 1: should it you know what would that have been, like, 2317 01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:39,720 Speaker 1: like fuck that. You know, send it, go for it 2318 01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:42,720 Speaker 1: and see what happens. And you know, at least in 2319 01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:44,800 Speaker 1: that scenario, you'll be able to put your head down 2320 01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:46,559 Speaker 1: at night knowing, Hey, I gave it everything I had. 2321 01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:48,120 Speaker 1: I didn't make it in the league, I didn't make 2322 01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:51,360 Speaker 1: it on that Olympic team I tried. Didn't work for me. 2323 01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:53,000 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of good players out there, 2324 01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:54,280 Speaker 1: some of the best in the world, and you know, 2325 01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:55,000 Speaker 1: shit happens. 2326 01:43:56,120 --> 01:44:00,240 Speaker 2: So many people could take so much from this, the 2327 01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:03,640 Speaker 2: cards you're dealt with, your father and the stuff that 2328 01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:06,640 Speaker 2: you've been through. That was a big fork in the 2329 01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:12,439 Speaker 2: road of life, and you know it. People need to 2330 01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:15,120 Speaker 2: hear your story more because a lot of people go 2331 01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:17,720 Speaker 2: through ship like that, whether it's a different situation of 2332 01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:20,920 Speaker 2: some form of fashion, of some kind of adversity in 2333 01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:24,080 Speaker 2: their life, and it's people like you that give people hope. Man, 2334 01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:26,840 Speaker 2: that I remember I learned that story, man, because not 2335 01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:28,200 Speaker 2: everyone knew that story about you. 2336 01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:29,640 Speaker 3: When we were fucking playing. 2337 01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:33,200 Speaker 2: Like you opened up to me and it was like, man, 2338 01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:37,160 Speaker 2: now I understand because you always did have that look 2339 01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:37,879 Speaker 2: in your eye. 2340 01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:39,679 Speaker 3: Like it's this or nothing. 2341 01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:42,240 Speaker 2: I'm willing to die for this ship and willing to 2342 01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:44,560 Speaker 2: die for this ship and that that that can go be, 2343 01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:46,720 Speaker 2: that could be said, that could be seen by a 2344 01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:49,480 Speaker 2: lot of people. Man, and it was so inspirational. 2345 01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:52,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I mean, you're right, that fork in 2346 01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:54,240 Speaker 1: the road was real. I mean I was close to 2347 01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:57,560 Speaker 1: going the other way, and my mom was probably the 2348 01:44:57,600 --> 01:44:59,960 Speaker 1: big reason why I didn't. I mean I contemplated, you know, 2349 01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:02,160 Speaker 1: going back to the Junkyard, just beating up Robbers. That's 2350 01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:03,360 Speaker 1: what we did when I was young. It was just 2351 01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:05,560 Speaker 1: chase Robbers. I was gonna do it by myself, just 2352 01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:09,760 Speaker 1: I was. I was on the edge and that you know, 2353 01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:13,000 Speaker 1: she brought the best out of me. And I'm always 2354 01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:14,800 Speaker 1: going to be thankful for that moment. That was huge. 2355 01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:18,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna call my mom after this. It's like, it's 2356 01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:22,400 Speaker 2: like Billy Madison, I love you Dad, you know what 2357 01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:23,600 Speaker 2: I mean? I love you. 2358 01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:27,760 Speaker 1: Momon know what he's talking about. 2359 01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:29,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't remember that part in Billy. 2360 01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:33,280 Speaker 1: Maybe have way off, just go with it, though, I'm 2361 01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:34,960 Speaker 1: with you. Call your mom, dude. 2362 01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:37,960 Speaker 2: I got a quick one. Would you give up one 2363 01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:40,080 Speaker 2: Super Bowl trophy for a gold medal? 2364 01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:43,360 Speaker 1: Yep. I've never been asked that, but that was a 2365 01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:46,559 Speaker 1: quick yes in my mind. I wanted that so bad, Bro, 2366 01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:49,080 Speaker 1: and I thought we had the team to do it 2367 01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:52,040 Speaker 1: and that we we we did, and we just didn't 2368 01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:54,720 Speaker 1: get it done. And you know, those opportunities don't come 2369 01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:56,559 Speaker 1: up a lot. We were so lucky to I mean, 2370 01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:58,800 Speaker 1: how many Super Bowls do we go to? You know, 2371 01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, and it's like for just the opportunity to 2372 01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:06,760 Speaker 1: go let alone to win the ones that we we 2373 01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:10,120 Speaker 1: did win, but you know, I didn't get another opportunity 2374 01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:11,880 Speaker 1: to do that. I wanted. I actually want to go 2375 01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:14,679 Speaker 1: to the Olympics in twenty twenty to go back. 2376 01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:15,400 Speaker 2: Now with those knees. 2377 01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:17,320 Speaker 1: No, I was good in twenty twenty with those I 2378 01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:21,160 Speaker 1: was good in twenty twenties. They canceled. They canceled the 2379 01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:23,559 Speaker 1: Olympics because of COVID. They pushed twenty one. 2380 01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:26,160 Speaker 2: Then the knee canceled those knees years ago. Then the 2381 01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:28,920 Speaker 2: knees were shot that you ain't hitting it, you ain't 2382 01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:30,160 Speaker 2: planned to a young man's sport. 2383 01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty twenty, we were hurting. 2384 01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:33,559 Speaker 1: I believed. 2385 01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:34,519 Speaker 2: Gotta believe. 2386 01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:38,000 Speaker 1: I believe, I gotta believe they're like get out of here. Bro, 2387 01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:40,280 Speaker 1: you're old. Didn't even bend over? 2388 01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, out of here now, Nate. People don't well, also, 2389 01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:47,400 Speaker 2: people don't know Nate's Jewish athlete is right, And we 2390 01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:50,040 Speaker 2: always had a we kind of clicked up. It's kind 2391 01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:52,360 Speaker 2: of like if we were in prison or something, we 2392 01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:55,160 Speaker 2: would be the only two Jews locked up together. 2393 01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:58,519 Speaker 3: So like on the low we would always kind of like, hey. 2394 01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:00,600 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of a but we got to 2395 01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:02,439 Speaker 1: defend each other fast this year. 2396 01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:04,080 Speaker 2: No, we don't have to. 2397 01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:08,160 Speaker 1: Remind me to call my grandmother. 2398 01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:14,000 Speaker 2: Who's your old time? Who's the Jewish athlete't Mount Rushmore? 2399 01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:18,599 Speaker 1: I mean that's for me. Like just with my dad 2400 01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:22,440 Speaker 1: and and he loved the Olympics and stuff, I automatically 2401 01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:26,759 Speaker 1: go Mark Spitz just because he loves swimming. My dad swam. 2402 01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:29,720 Speaker 1: He looked kind of like my dad. And it just 2403 01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:31,439 Speaker 1: Mark Smith was a g back in the day. He 2404 01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:34,920 Speaker 1: was the Phelps of it. And that guy I gotta 2405 01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:38,920 Speaker 1: go with for sure, you know the other one, Yeah, 2406 01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:39,760 Speaker 1: I mean you gotta go. 2407 01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:44,080 Speaker 7: I mean that's just where's our guy? I think was 2408 01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:50,599 Speaker 7: Sue Bird? I think she's here, She's she I mean, 2409 01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:52,400 Speaker 7: she's on the tribe. 2410 01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a tribe member. I mean, oh my god, 2411 01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:58,760 Speaker 1: So those two I mean cofacts and honestly, I don't 2412 01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:01,360 Speaker 1: know that we're allowed to do this, but like, well, yeah, 2413 01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:03,519 Speaker 1: fuck it. I mean you gotta be on there for me. 2414 01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:07,479 Speaker 1: I mean you're super Bowl MVP, super Bowl wins, I 2415 01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:09,479 Speaker 1: mean elite, my dog. 2416 01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:13,320 Speaker 2: You're on mind. Thanks, you're too sport fucking you're olympian nfler. 2417 01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:17,519 Speaker 1: See how see how juice? You know we got each 2418 01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:18,120 Speaker 1: other's back. 2419 01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:18,880 Speaker 2: And scratch my back. 2420 01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:19,960 Speaker 3: I'll scratch your back. 2421 01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:22,240 Speaker 1: The funny thing about my back is it's located on 2422 01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:25,320 Speaker 1: my cock. I thought that was rhetorical. I don't know 2423 01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:28,760 Speaker 1: we actually had to say it. I was gonna say 2424 01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:31,160 Speaker 1: my back is sore. I lifted yesterday. No, what are 2425 01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:31,840 Speaker 1: you say? 2426 01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:34,519 Speaker 5: Jack got to get reprimanded for Deshaun watching joke on that. 2427 01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:39,559 Speaker 2: Oh hr, How do you think Bill could coach rugby? 2428 01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:45,320 Speaker 1: I think Bill could coach taking a ship like he 2429 01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:48,280 Speaker 1: the way he would analyze and you know, he's very 2430 01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:51,240 Speaker 1: you know, type A or whatever you want to call that, 2431 01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:54,040 Speaker 1: where he's just like kind of introverted but like super 2432 01:48:54,160 --> 01:48:57,720 Speaker 1: obsessive and meticulous and yeah, you know he could tell 2433 01:48:57,760 --> 01:48:59,880 Speaker 1: you how to take a ship while being a fish 2434 01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:02,760 Speaker 1: but saving the most TV at the same time. Yeah, 2435 01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:03,840 Speaker 1: he could teach Rugby. 2436 01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:07,559 Speaker 2: For Look, they're situational shitting, like, yeah, you got ten 2437 01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:10,599 Speaker 2: minutes of shit, like I can understand, but like if 2438 01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:12,519 Speaker 2: we have thirty seconds of shit, you gotta get it 2439 01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:14,599 Speaker 2: out in white. Yeah, I can't beat yourself. 2440 01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:19,320 Speaker 1: Your pants gotta be undone before you sit down, before 2441 01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:20,160 Speaker 1: you walk in the room. 2442 01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:22,599 Speaker 2: How are you are you watching them on TV? 2443 01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? A little bit. I mean, you know, he's he's Bill. 2444 01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:30,800 Speaker 2: He's been getting the letter. He's better each week when 2445 01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:33,760 Speaker 2: he starts talking about certain things, like you could tell. 2446 01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:36,639 Speaker 1: I texted him. Actually, I was like I never thought 2447 01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:39,760 Speaker 1: i'd see the day. Yeah, he's like me, neither man, 2448 01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:43,599 Speaker 1: you know, but he's doing a great job. And yeah, 2449 01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:46,040 Speaker 1: I learned so much from that guy, you know, Like 2450 01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:47,720 Speaker 1: I said, that rookie year was so big for me 2451 01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:51,760 Speaker 1: with not only like b Flow and Maddy p and 2452 01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:55,559 Speaker 1: them and Scottio, but like Bill Man. Bill taught football 2453 01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:58,360 Speaker 1: all day every day and absolutely he could teach Rugby. 2454 01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:01,719 Speaker 1: He could teach anything. I said, So he was the best. 2455 01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:05,320 Speaker 1: You know. I think to go through my story, I think, 2456 01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, I don't like to give credit to luck 2457 01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:11,240 Speaker 1: for much of anything in life. I think you earn 2458 01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:13,639 Speaker 1: it and you work for it, and I definitely did. 2459 01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:16,479 Speaker 1: But some things were lucky. You know. I was lucky 2460 01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:19,120 Speaker 1: to be pretty healthy throughout my whole career, and a 2461 01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:21,560 Speaker 1: lot of guys aren't. That was one. And I was 2462 01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:24,120 Speaker 1: lucky to have the men in my life that I had, 2463 01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:27,680 Speaker 1: not only a father figure like I had that was 2464 01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:30,000 Speaker 1: a very special human that taught me how to be 2465 01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:32,200 Speaker 1: a man. But you know, I went to a house 2466 01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:35,240 Speaker 1: date with Jim Tressel, highest character human being ever, you 2467 01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:39,160 Speaker 1: know him and Slater am I too, on my Mount Rushmore. 2468 01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:42,880 Speaker 1: And then I go to the Patriots with ownership like 2469 01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:45,400 Speaker 1: mister Crafton and a coach like Bill Belichick. You know, 2470 01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:47,280 Speaker 1: look at how many guys go to teams with new 2471 01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:49,600 Speaker 1: new head coaches and it's just they're in such a 2472 01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:52,479 Speaker 1: bad situation. And that was something I was very fortunate 2473 01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:54,559 Speaker 1: to have the coaches and the men in my life 2474 01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:56,320 Speaker 1: that I had. So yeah, I love Bill. 2475 01:50:57,120 --> 01:50:57,880 Speaker 2: I love Bill too. 2476 01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:01,400 Speaker 1: I got I have nothing. Bill is the best. 2477 01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:04,759 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say he's the best. He's definitely a goddamn 2478 01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:09,599 Speaker 2: asshole who caressholes are great. And I mean I always say. 2479 01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:14,880 Speaker 1: You're an asshole. I'm an asshole the times. So you're 2480 01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:17,040 Speaker 1: just a bad person because you know, you're a little 2481 01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:19,320 Speaker 1: tough love. I'm not saying that is the best. 2482 01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:21,439 Speaker 2: I've been like one of the few to have his 2483 01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:25,160 Speaker 2: back through the whole kitten kaboodle of everything. That's why 2484 01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:26,800 Speaker 2: I wasn't on the goddamn documentary. 2485 01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:27,479 Speaker 3: I didn't talk enough. 2486 01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:27,720 Speaker 2: Ship. 2487 01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:28,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 2488 01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:31,519 Speaker 1: I mean, he he had the team, you know, his 2489 01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:34,920 Speaker 1: best interest. He put everything into it. He looked out 2490 01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:38,200 Speaker 1: for everybody. He held everybody to the same accountability. I mean, 2491 01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:40,120 Speaker 1: exactly what you would want from a leader if I 2492 01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:42,160 Speaker 1: had to go back. And I mean it's just he 2493 01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:43,599 Speaker 1: was first class. 2494 01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:44,360 Speaker 2: What about Ernie. 2495 01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:48,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Ernie's just special. Ernie's just special. 2496 01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:49,879 Speaker 3: You have any Ernie memories? 2497 01:51:50,880 --> 01:51:54,320 Speaker 1: Nothing funny, I mean, just the just the Malcolm Butler 2498 01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:57,439 Speaker 1: play we ran in practice that he drew up. He 2499 01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:59,479 Speaker 1: drew that play up, and then we they then it 2500 01:51:59,560 --> 01:52:02,679 Speaker 1: comes in Malcolm got smoked in practice every time. 2501 01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:06,320 Speaker 2: Josh Boyce pissed off watching it in Arizona. And then 2502 01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:08,360 Speaker 2: we're gonna if they see this play, we're gonna lose. 2503 01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:10,599 Speaker 1: And then he picks it off and the biggest play 2504 01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:13,120 Speaker 1: of his life, like and that's all. Ernie drew that ship. 2505 01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:16,960 Speaker 2: I remember, Yeah, so Ernie felt out his head. 2506 01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:19,240 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that was then he fell down and. 2507 01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:23,800 Speaker 2: Practice with stitches. Erdie came out and he finished the 2508 01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:25,720 Speaker 2: fucking practice coached her. 2509 01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:27,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, he looked like if I got the a mummy 2510 01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:29,559 Speaker 3: he had, Remember, he. 2511 01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:35,559 Speaker 1: Was like yeah, yeah, he was hilarious man, jaguine missity thing. 2512 01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:37,080 Speaker 6: We had a great we had a great episode, but 2513 01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:39,360 Speaker 6: we got to give a little shy to Alex Cedric 2514 01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:42,559 Speaker 6: of the women's sevens, scored that last minute try against 2515 01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:44,880 Speaker 6: Australia and the bronze medal match. 2516 01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:47,360 Speaker 2: Shout out to her, Alana mar all those isn't there 2517 01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:50,400 Speaker 2: a rugby girl and dancing with the stars killing it. 2518 01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:51,360 Speaker 2: She's been killed. 2519 01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:52,240 Speaker 3: I've seen her everywhere. 2520 01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:59,440 Speaker 1: Her highlights actually rivaled Danny's. She she puts the boomstick 2521 01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:00,519 Speaker 1: down on everybody. 2522 01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:01,360 Speaker 3: Hit stick. 2523 01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, this. 2524 01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:04,639 Speaker 3: Hit stick. 2525 01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:07,639 Speaker 2: We got to get her in the nutthouse man right here. 2526 01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:10,639 Speaker 1: She's e leade. She plays the game violently and it's 2527 01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:12,479 Speaker 1: you know, it's a violent game. You'd like to see 2528 01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:13,960 Speaker 1: people remember it's a violent game. 2529 01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:16,679 Speaker 2: Does that our girls going to be able to compete 2530 01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:17,480 Speaker 2: for the gold. 2531 01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:19,679 Speaker 1: I think so. I think when you start talking about 2532 01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:23,320 Speaker 1: that top three, you're you're in it. You know, like 2533 01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:27,360 Speaker 1: seven's is anybody could win on any day. France won 2534 01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:29,880 Speaker 1: the gold and the men's this year. I mean they 2535 01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:33,800 Speaker 1: were favorited because it was in France, but they weren't really. 2536 01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:35,680 Speaker 1: I don't know that they were in it. I mean 2537 01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:37,200 Speaker 1: I guess they had du Pont come in, so they 2538 01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:40,800 Speaker 1: were better than they usually are. But they want it. Yeah. 2539 01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:43,000 Speaker 1: I think the women are absolutely in contention to not 2540 01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:47,160 Speaker 1: only repeat medaling, but you know, we want more. We 2541 01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:48,960 Speaker 1: want the men to, you know, keep up with them 2542 01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:51,120 Speaker 1: and get one too. But we want somebody to get 2543 01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:54,200 Speaker 1: a goal. We don't care who it comes from. You 2544 01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:58,400 Speaker 1: want Rugby to keep going forward. And people like Perry Baker, 2545 01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:01,439 Speaker 1: Danny Barrett, all the ones before, you know, all them 2546 01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:04,200 Speaker 1: and Alona and all them. You know they're they're pushing 2547 01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:07,800 Speaker 1: the game forward and and you know, hopefully the game's 2548 01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:10,120 Speaker 1: in a better place, you know, because of them. 2549 01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:14,680 Speaker 2: Nate Ebner, at thirteen years old, walked, So what's your name? 2550 01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:16,599 Speaker 2: Alana Mark Alta mar could fly. 2551 01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:20,760 Speaker 6: Let's go baby, Nate. Thanks for teaching us same the game. 2552 01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:24,439 Speaker 6: I appreciate you educating us today. Man, Seriously, we'll be 2553 01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:31,200 Speaker 6: right back after this quick break. We got to name 2554 01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:32,760 Speaker 6: this game, and then we're going to score the game. 2555 01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:35,320 Speaker 6: The game, Okay, name the game. 2556 01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:40,920 Speaker 2: Rugby is back, the return of rugby seven's and sixteen 2557 01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:43,800 Speaker 2: or do you have a name for this specific Olympics 2558 01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:44,680 Speaker 2: that you want to call it? 2559 01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:50,680 Speaker 1: I mean rugby and rio, Rugby and rio perfect. I'm 2560 01:54:50,720 --> 01:54:54,520 Speaker 1: not I'm not really like a I think Darth Vader. 2561 01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:57,200 Speaker 1: So the Rugby and Rio or the return of rugby 2562 01:54:57,280 --> 01:54:58,600 Speaker 1: is not going to hit from me. But yeah, I'll 2563 01:54:58,600 --> 01:54:59,800 Speaker 1: do rugby and rio because. 2564 01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:03,080 Speaker 2: I love it. Rugby and Rio. Score the game. Is 2565 01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:06,760 Speaker 2: this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it stakes? 2566 01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:10,720 Speaker 2: Zero to ten, one to ten decimals, Okay, the steaks, 2567 01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:14,560 Speaker 2: I mean these rugbys. This is the Olympics Rugby games. 2568 01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:17,680 Speaker 1: This is the Olympics. It's the highest stikes. There isn't 2569 01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:19,960 Speaker 1: rugby right there, and then not to mention, rugby hadn't 2570 01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:22,880 Speaker 1: been in the Olympics for almost one hundred years. This 2571 01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:24,800 Speaker 1: is as highest stakes as it gets. We just talked 2572 01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:27,240 Speaker 1: about all the people that did it before us. I 2573 01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:30,000 Speaker 1: mean the stakes gotta be nine to eight for me, 2574 01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:32,560 Speaker 1: a nine to five somewhere high for me. 2575 01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:34,680 Speaker 3: If it was gold medal match, the stakes would be. 2576 01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:39,120 Speaker 1: That's why it's not a ten. You know, if I guess, 2577 01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm. 2578 01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:42,560 Speaker 2: This is not a judging. 2579 01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:45,800 Speaker 5: I think we've done the American team in the Olympics. 2580 01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:47,360 Speaker 1: That's kind of how I was taking it. 2581 01:55:47,480 --> 01:55:50,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, I'm gonna go with an eight point one, 2582 01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:55,320 Speaker 2: which is a very integrity type score six seven Olympics 2583 01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:58,120 Speaker 2: Olympics seven three seven. 2584 01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:00,280 Speaker 3: Three star power zero ten. 2585 01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:04,040 Speaker 1: Are we talking? Okay, we're just talking in the world 2586 01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:08,040 Speaker 1: of rugby or all sports of all. I mean, because 2587 01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:10,520 Speaker 1: when you guys say steaks and we're talking about rugby, 2588 01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:13,280 Speaker 1: I mean a six seven, like you might get slapped 2589 01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:13,480 Speaker 1: for that. 2590 01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:15,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think my ignorance is showing here with you. 2591 01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:19,320 Speaker 1: But if we're talking about Super Bowls and Stanley Cups 2592 01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:22,720 Speaker 1: and everything else, then okay, you can make an argument 2593 01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:26,000 Speaker 1: still the Olympics, but you know, people wait four years 2594 01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:28,240 Speaker 1: to do that. You don't get it every year without 2595 01:56:29,960 --> 01:56:32,040 Speaker 1: I just want to know what we're talking about. That's fair, 2596 01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:35,560 Speaker 1: that's fair star power for me. I mean, I'm I'm 2597 01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:36,680 Speaker 1: living in the rugby world. 2598 01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:39,000 Speaker 3: There's a lot of stars there. 2599 01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:40,640 Speaker 1: There are a lot of stars, a lot of stars 2600 01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:46,480 Speaker 1: in the Olympics. I'm gonna go with a point three. 2601 01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:49,360 Speaker 2: Eight point three the Welker score, I'm gonna go with 2602 01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:53,080 Speaker 2: a stars they're an eight flat. 2603 01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:59,960 Speaker 6: I'm watching the score, guys. I'm just gonna judge Russian judge. 2604 01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:03,920 Speaker 2: Want to fight? Eabs is mad? I don't believe. 2605 01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm not mad. I feel disrespected and that that's the 2606 01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:08,960 Speaker 1: whole difference. 2607 01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:10,160 Speaker 2: I hate that. I hate that. 2608 01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah you should. I hope you're you know, kicking a 2609 01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:13,240 Speaker 1: little bit. 2610 01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:17,120 Speaker 2: Gameplay of this, shaking in his boots. 2611 01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:19,280 Speaker 1: Gameplay as an excitement. 2612 01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:19,520 Speaker 2: What excitement? 2613 01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:21,400 Speaker 3: Back and forth games? 2614 01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:23,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had some we had. I mean we're talking 2615 01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:26,880 Speaker 1: about us specifically, we're talking about phelves. Are we talking 2616 01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:28,280 Speaker 1: about We're talking rugby? 2617 01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:30,760 Speaker 2: Okay, I you know sevens. 2618 01:57:31,240 --> 01:57:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with seven seven point five. I've seen 2619 01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:36,880 Speaker 1: better game play. 2620 01:57:37,240 --> 01:57:40,080 Speaker 2: I was just so excited when watching this. I'm gonna 2621 01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:43,680 Speaker 2: give it a seven point eight. Nice. What about you, guys? Uh? 2622 01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:45,480 Speaker 2: Six point five again? 2623 01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:49,240 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, guys, I had some point seven rugby seven's. 2624 01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:49,360 Speaker 2: There it is. 2625 01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:53,680 Speaker 1: I like that. I think the whole rugby d Why 2626 01:57:53,680 --> 01:57:55,760 Speaker 1: didn't I think of that? You can change it. 2627 01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:59,920 Speaker 2: No, the name you have to score the name rugby 2628 01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:03,320 Speaker 2: rugby in Rio, which is comes off the tongue real, 2629 01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:08,440 Speaker 2: the literation comes also the cultural and cultural impact Rugby 2630 01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:13,120 Speaker 2: is back in Rio one hundred years zero to ten decimal. Okay, 2631 01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:14,360 Speaker 2: I mean I came up with it. 2632 01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:18,720 Speaker 1: I gotta think highly of myself here. Five five Is 2633 01:58:18,760 --> 01:58:19,320 Speaker 1: that a good name? 2634 01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:22,880 Speaker 2: I don't even know Disney Disney movie. I'm gonna go 2635 01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:29,640 Speaker 2: with that. Eight point two okay it do oh man again? 2636 01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:36,080 Speaker 2: Three point oh? I'm sorry, guys, get off the I'm done. 2637 01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:39,480 Speaker 1: What is it? What did they score that before we 2638 01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:40,800 Speaker 1: even came up? 2639 01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:43,040 Speaker 2: They're cowards? Yeah? 2640 01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:44,880 Speaker 5: No, I stand by it there. 2641 01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:46,960 Speaker 2: I'm such a coward. I don't think so. 2642 01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:50,680 Speaker 8: It's a seven, six point eight eight that puts us 2643 01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:52,680 Speaker 8: Where is it go in the games that we've puts 2644 01:58:52,760 --> 01:58:55,480 Speaker 8: us just above the legion of Boom game, Super Bowl God, 2645 01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:59,040 Speaker 8: I don't know, Seahawks versus Broncos, and just below the 2646 01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:02,480 Speaker 8: twenty eleven A the divisual Round game Broncos versus Patriots. 2647 01:59:02,680 --> 01:59:03,360 Speaker 2: What was that game? 2648 01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:07,640 Speaker 1: That was the t Bow who had six touchdowns with Rob. 2649 01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:13,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Rob wanted to talk about t BO. I 2650 01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:17,680 Speaker 2: forgot about that. We gotta think who played t BO, Like, yeah, 2651 01:59:17,720 --> 01:59:18,600 Speaker 2: he's like, let's talk about that. 2652 01:59:19,120 --> 01:59:20,320 Speaker 1: Remember when he was on our team. 2653 01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:22,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember when Nico Kudos went up to him 2654 01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:24,480 Speaker 2: right away asked him like. 2655 01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:30,480 Speaker 1: Hey, yeah you actually like, man, I love that, Nate. 2656 01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:31,360 Speaker 3: Did we miss anything? 2657 01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:32,520 Speaker 2: No? 2658 01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:34,880 Speaker 3: Man, that was fun you taught us. 2659 01:59:35,480 --> 01:59:35,520 Speaker 5: No. 2660 01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:37,600 Speaker 2: This this is gonna be great because this is gonna 2661 01:59:37,840 --> 01:59:43,160 Speaker 2: educate our listener, which is probably notoriously the Big three football, baseball, basketball, 2662 01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:46,760 Speaker 2: and hockey actually Big four and soccer. Actually we got 2663 01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:52,000 Speaker 2: soccer in there, and wrestling wrestling Rod in the horizon 2664 01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:55,360 Speaker 2: w w F. Of course, we're gonna broaden the horizon 2665 01:59:55,760 --> 01:59:59,040 Speaker 2: of rugby more because it's it's I see it a 2666 01:59:59,160 --> 02:00:02,160 Speaker 2: lot more then when we watched you, because I mean 2667 02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:04,640 Speaker 2: when you came on our team, we all got real 2668 02:00:04,720 --> 02:00:09,240 Speaker 2: comfortable and familiar ish with it, and then when you 2669 02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:12,360 Speaker 2: played in it, we then you grab it naturally. Like 2670 02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:14,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if the algorithm in my fucking TV 2671 02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:16,520 Speaker 2: or something. I just feel like I saw it more 2672 02:00:17,040 --> 02:00:20,120 Speaker 2: or it's been being showed more. And with the success 2673 02:00:20,280 --> 02:00:22,120 Speaker 2: that we've been going to the Olympics and having it's 2674 02:00:22,120 --> 02:00:22,840 Speaker 2: been awesome. 2675 02:00:22,600 --> 02:00:24,520 Speaker 1: Man, take a little bit of everything. If there's anything 2676 02:00:24,600 --> 02:00:28,040 Speaker 1: we missed, I would say, you know, I get asked 2677 02:00:28,040 --> 02:00:31,040 Speaker 1: a lot of times, you know, football players play, and 2678 02:00:31,120 --> 02:00:33,800 Speaker 1: we talked about some guys that would be great. You know, 2679 02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:37,880 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey seems to think, like, you know, ruggie guys 2680 02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:40,680 Speaker 1: couldn't play football, which might be the case, or rugby 2681 02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:43,720 Speaker 1: is easy. I think I don't know, something came out 2682 02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:47,120 Speaker 1: with some negativity tours. But like I'm just saying, he's 2683 02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:49,560 Speaker 1: a good athlete and all, but he would get circles 2684 02:00:49,640 --> 02:00:52,960 Speaker 1: ran around him very quickly out there, and now he'd 2685 02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:53,880 Speaker 1: be good and all that. 2686 02:00:54,360 --> 02:00:55,360 Speaker 2: You know, young Kelsey. 2687 02:00:56,120 --> 02:00:58,680 Speaker 1: I just that gas tank ain't gonna last in that one, 2688 02:00:58,760 --> 02:01:01,960 Speaker 1: and maybe he'd have to, he'd have to earn it. 2689 02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:03,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think to just make a 2690 02:01:03,880 --> 02:01:04,640 Speaker 1: blanket statement. 2691 02:01:04,720 --> 02:01:06,400 Speaker 2: What did he say about rugby? 2692 02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:09,120 Speaker 1: I just I don't remember, and I'm not gonna quote him. 2693 02:01:09,120 --> 02:01:13,080 Speaker 6: But if you're calling out Travis, Andy Reid could scheme 2694 02:01:13,120 --> 02:01:14,320 Speaker 6: him open out on the rugby field. 2695 02:01:14,680 --> 02:01:15,520 Speaker 2: You can scheme open. 2696 02:01:15,960 --> 02:01:17,800 Speaker 1: So now you know, and now Andy Reid knows how 2697 02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:19,600 Speaker 1: to coach rugby. God Damn. 2698 02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:22,600 Speaker 2: I think Patrick Mahons be a good rugby player. 2699 02:01:22,960 --> 02:01:26,680 Speaker 1: Bro, Patrick Mahons can't run with these dudes, Carlin Isles. 2700 02:01:26,760 --> 02:01:29,000 Speaker 1: You think Patrick Mahomes is gonna tackle Carlin Isles? Are 2701 02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:33,960 Speaker 1: you kidding me? I think my point being is the 2702 02:01:34,240 --> 02:01:36,600 Speaker 1: the IQ of the game that we talked about earlier, 2703 02:01:37,320 --> 02:01:39,320 Speaker 1: like the fact that Travis things he would just go 2704 02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:41,840 Speaker 1: out there or whatever like that. Football players would just 2705 02:01:41,920 --> 02:01:45,160 Speaker 1: go out there, and just like, there's too high of 2706 02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:47,160 Speaker 1: an IQ to do that. A lot of football players 2707 02:01:47,200 --> 02:01:49,520 Speaker 1: have tried and it just doesn't work like that. Not 2708 02:01:49,600 --> 02:01:52,600 Speaker 1: to say they couldn't eventually get there. You ain't walking 2709 02:01:52,640 --> 02:01:54,320 Speaker 1: out there and fucking with those dudes. You know they're 2710 02:01:54,360 --> 02:01:58,280 Speaker 1: at a high level. I'm with you and a football 2711 02:01:58,520 --> 02:01:59,840 Speaker 1: you are, but I just don't you know what. 2712 02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:02,520 Speaker 2: This reminds me of a Meryl Streep when some award 2713 02:02:02,720 --> 02:02:05,080 Speaker 2: one night and I'm watching it. I'm a huge Meryl 2714 02:02:05,120 --> 02:02:08,800 Speaker 2: Streep fan, and she called out football and fighting and 2715 02:02:08,920 --> 02:02:10,640 Speaker 2: athletes that were not real art. 2716 02:02:11,080 --> 02:02:13,000 Speaker 3: I kind of feel where you're a little hurt right now. 2717 02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:15,640 Speaker 9: I just I just know, after playing both at a 2718 02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:19,720 Speaker 9: high heart, I felt I one of my favorite actresses 2719 02:02:20,440 --> 02:02:24,280 Speaker 9: calling she like lumped us up like UFC and dumb 2720 02:02:24,360 --> 02:02:27,880 Speaker 9: football people that like football or this that they. 2721 02:02:27,800 --> 02:02:29,680 Speaker 3: Don't know the real integrity of art. 2722 02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:31,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, how is this not art? When I'm doing 2723 02:02:31,720 --> 02:02:32,680 Speaker 2: my body the way I'm. 2724 02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:36,720 Speaker 1: Doing Yeah, absolutely, And some of the stuff these guys do. 2725 02:02:36,880 --> 02:02:39,040 Speaker 1: And after playing in the NFL and playing at the 2726 02:02:39,120 --> 02:02:42,280 Speaker 1: highest level, it's just like, you got to give your respect. 2727 02:02:42,400 --> 02:02:45,920 Speaker 1: Does that throw darts at the highest level? I can't. 2728 02:02:46,120 --> 02:02:48,080 Speaker 2: We can't throw darts with I think I could throw darts. 2729 02:02:48,160 --> 02:02:50,200 Speaker 1: Well, see there we go. Man. We just got guys 2730 02:02:50,240 --> 02:02:51,600 Speaker 1: that think they can do it. I love that you 2731 02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:53,600 Speaker 1: think you can do that. But those dudes are special, 2732 02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:56,000 Speaker 1: and anyone who does anything at the highest level, you 2733 02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:57,280 Speaker 1: gotta give them a little Definitely. 2734 02:02:57,880 --> 02:02:59,760 Speaker 3: I don't think there's a tongue in cheek by. 2735 02:02:59,800 --> 02:03:02,560 Speaker 1: Try probably, and I'm giving him a hard time, you know, maybe, 2736 02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:06,200 Speaker 1: But are you a little sensitive right now? Rugby's my baby. 2737 02:03:06,200 --> 02:03:09,280 Speaker 1: I gotta protect you, I mean, so, you know. I 2738 02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:11,720 Speaker 1: just but those guys are special. I've been with them. 2739 02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:14,320 Speaker 1: I've seen them, and i know how good they are 2740 02:03:14,440 --> 02:03:17,000 Speaker 1: and how hard they work. And I've seen both sides 2741 02:03:17,040 --> 02:03:19,440 Speaker 1: of it, the NFL and that, and like these dudes 2742 02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:23,080 Speaker 1: aren't slaps like these dudes are. Truth. Now, if Tyreek 2743 02:03:23,160 --> 02:03:25,120 Speaker 1: Hill grew up playing rugby, yes, he would be eating 2744 02:03:26,200 --> 02:03:29,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't argue that so with travils, you know, 2745 02:03:29,400 --> 02:03:32,120 Speaker 1: but like you didn't so don't say you'd walk out 2746 02:03:32,160 --> 02:03:32,720 Speaker 1: there and you. 2747 02:03:32,800 --> 02:03:36,240 Speaker 2: Know, I get it. It's it's kind of like it's 2748 02:03:36,320 --> 02:03:38,800 Speaker 2: the conversation of our best athletes don't play soccer. 2749 02:03:38,960 --> 02:03:40,560 Speaker 1: Lebron James playing football. 2750 02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:42,280 Speaker 3: You'd have a hell of a red area package. 2751 02:03:42,440 --> 02:03:44,280 Speaker 1: You just wonder, is he gonna play sixteen games? 2752 02:03:45,440 --> 02:03:46,080 Speaker 2: You don't need them. 2753 02:03:46,120 --> 02:03:48,839 Speaker 3: Fifteen plays a game, they may be three touchdowns. 2754 02:03:48,920 --> 02:03:53,280 Speaker 5: What's the point being that's the conversation. How's Travis Kelsey's 2755 02:03:53,320 --> 02:03:54,760 Speaker 5: lateral technique because he I. 2756 02:03:54,760 --> 02:03:57,080 Speaker 1: Mean he throws it. He does. I mean he's nice 2757 02:03:57,240 --> 02:03:57,680 Speaker 1: with all that. 2758 02:03:57,960 --> 02:03:58,120 Speaker 5: You know. 2759 02:03:58,400 --> 02:04:00,720 Speaker 1: It's don't get me going. 2760 02:04:05,720 --> 02:04:08,240 Speaker 5: About his teammate Lewis ree samm It isn't either a 2761 02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:08,960 Speaker 5: rugby player. 2762 02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:10,120 Speaker 2: Was he good? 2763 02:04:10,280 --> 02:04:12,080 Speaker 1: Dude? Is he electric? Dude? Is one of the best 2764 02:04:12,160 --> 02:04:14,520 Speaker 1: rugby players in the world. He can't run routes like 2765 02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:16,760 Speaker 1: you can yet. I mean, he has to learn how 2766 02:04:16,800 --> 02:04:19,680 Speaker 1: to play the game and maybe he will get there. 2767 02:04:19,720 --> 02:04:20,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to say he 2768 02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:24,720 Speaker 1: can't because he's he's electric, he's super athletic. But like 2769 02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:27,320 Speaker 1: I talk about, people talk about him all the time 2770 02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:31,440 Speaker 1: with me, and I talk about you. The IQ of knowing? 2771 02:04:31,560 --> 02:04:33,160 Speaker 1: Is it man or zone? Where am I gonna sit? 2772 02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:36,520 Speaker 1: Tom's gonna know what I'm thinking? Like that level before 2773 02:04:36,520 --> 02:04:38,720 Speaker 1: you even talk about anything physical in your ability to 2774 02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:41,080 Speaker 1: like sit a receiver down or play against his leverage 2775 02:04:41,120 --> 02:04:45,200 Speaker 1: and really create distance, Like what are you thinking? You know? 2776 02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:48,280 Speaker 1: Do you even recognize? There's so much into it before 2777 02:04:48,280 --> 02:04:50,720 Speaker 1: you even get to that point. That's where he needs 2778 02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:52,920 Speaker 1: to get. And he's one of the best in the 2779 02:04:53,000 --> 02:04:55,440 Speaker 1: world at rugby. So to sit there and say you 2780 02:04:55,520 --> 02:04:57,320 Speaker 1: think you can just walk out there and think like 2781 02:04:57,400 --> 02:04:58,600 Speaker 1: him on a rugby field, Come on. 2782 02:04:58,720 --> 02:05:02,600 Speaker 2: Dog, I'm I'm with you, except if the SWIFTI fans. 2783 02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:02,920 Speaker 3: Get mad at me. 2784 02:05:03,000 --> 02:05:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm not in this. 2785 02:05:05,640 --> 02:05:09,160 Speaker 2: You want to plug anything what we got? You're so 2786 02:05:09,240 --> 02:05:11,640 Speaker 2: you're in town, You're gonna talk some rugby at some 2787 02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:14,960 Speaker 2: rugby on NBC NBC. That'll be fun. I'm not gonna 2788 02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:18,720 Speaker 2: know about it because it's time delayed, but it's still 2789 02:05:18,760 --> 02:05:20,680 Speaker 2: part of your job and you're building your resume TV. 2790 02:05:22,440 --> 02:05:24,880 Speaker 1: You know, Finish Strong a Father's Code in the Son's Path. 2791 02:05:25,600 --> 02:05:27,800 Speaker 1: If you want to Amazon whatever you want. 2792 02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:29,760 Speaker 3: And you're you're you're trying to make it a movie. 2793 02:05:29,960 --> 02:05:30,560 Speaker 3: It's your story. 2794 02:05:30,640 --> 02:05:33,400 Speaker 1: Got people, yeah, I mean their script writing as we speak. 2795 02:05:33,920 --> 02:05:39,120 Speaker 1: So Who's I'm really excited about that. You got, dude. 2796 02:05:39,160 --> 02:05:40,520 Speaker 5: I don't even think I'm gonna play you. 2797 02:05:41,000 --> 02:05:42,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, who's gonna play you? 2798 02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:45,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'll be in the movie, but 2799 02:05:45,280 --> 02:05:45,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna play you. 2800 02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:48,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna have somebody super emotional in the locker room 2801 02:05:48,520 --> 02:05:51,280 Speaker 1: at some point, throwing their helmet, cussing at themselves. 2802 02:05:51,480 --> 02:05:53,520 Speaker 2: I mean, Lisa's not at you that. 2803 02:05:55,480 --> 02:05:58,400 Speaker 1: You're always yelling at yourself, but yeah, I know that. 2804 02:05:58,520 --> 02:06:01,160 Speaker 1: And if you need to, you need a jet, I will. 2805 02:06:02,240 --> 02:06:04,880 Speaker 2: Man. Thank you coming on, man, that's this was such 2806 02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:08,960 Speaker 2: a fun episode. So many inspirational stories from you and 2807 02:06:09,360 --> 02:06:12,920 Speaker 2: life experiences, and you know, I'm so happy for you, 2808 02:06:13,280 --> 02:06:15,960 Speaker 2: not just as you know one of my my former 2809 02:06:16,520 --> 02:06:21,920 Speaker 2: bros still bro, but new new father girl dad. 2810 02:06:22,680 --> 02:06:24,400 Speaker 3: So excited for you. I love you, man, Thanks for 2811 02:06:24,440 --> 02:06:24,720 Speaker 3: coming on. 2812 02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:26,200 Speaker 1: Appreciate you man, Thanks for having me. 2813 02:06:26,360 --> 02:06:31,280 Speaker 3: Had a good time, man, Nate's very inspirational man. 2814 02:06:31,560 --> 02:06:36,280 Speaker 6: Captain America. Man really is full of little bullshit. Though, 2815 02:06:37,600 --> 02:06:38,840 Speaker 6: what are we going to get way? 2816 02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:41,200 Speaker 2: My guy thinks he could go out and compete for 2817 02:06:41,400 --> 02:06:44,480 Speaker 2: Olympics through for knee surgeries. 2818 02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:44,880 Speaker 1: Deep. 2819 02:06:45,000 --> 02:06:49,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you ain't getting up on that pitch. 2820 02:06:49,840 --> 02:06:51,240 Speaker 3: Whatever, you ain't getting on the field. 2821 02:06:51,600 --> 02:06:54,400 Speaker 2: You can't do it. Ain't no flag football. Seven. 2822 02:06:55,040 --> 02:06:56,200 Speaker 3: You're gonna try to prove me wrong. 2823 02:06:56,440 --> 02:06:57,440 Speaker 1: I just try to prove me wrong. 2824 02:06:57,440 --> 02:06:59,480 Speaker 5: I want you and Nate to join the Israeli flag 2825 02:06:59,520 --> 02:07:00,920 Speaker 5: football and see if he can make it. 2826 02:07:01,000 --> 02:07:02,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, but him saying that we could do that, like 2827 02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:07,520 Speaker 2: his knees aren't even good enough for that. Josh Rosen 2828 02:07:07,680 --> 02:07:08,680 Speaker 2: leading the quarterback room. 2829 02:07:08,720 --> 02:07:09,880 Speaker 1: There something I'm both. 2830 02:07:10,200 --> 02:07:13,400 Speaker 3: We'll bringing b Y j Yes, we'll bring. 2831 02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:15,880 Speaker 2: He's tearing up. 2832 02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:17,840 Speaker 3: Hold on, let me bringing in by Jew. 2833 02:07:18,040 --> 02:07:20,920 Speaker 2: That's my guy bridging the Mormons and the Jews. 2834 02:07:21,520 --> 02:07:25,280 Speaker 6: Jake Reetzlov Yeah, Jake Retzlaff, Yeah, Bro, he's he's having 2835 02:07:25,360 --> 02:07:26,240 Speaker 6: himself a year baby. 2836 02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:30,160 Speaker 2: They still and they still defeated when yes, they squeaked 2837 02:07:30,200 --> 02:07:33,560 Speaker 2: by Utah. That'll be sweet man. B Yu has always 2838 02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:37,520 Speaker 2: been just they've always been good. Like taking a lot 2839 02:07:37,560 --> 02:07:39,880 Speaker 2: of Juco guys, because a lot of the you know, 2840 02:07:39,920 --> 02:07:41,560 Speaker 2: a lot of the Mormons they got to go on mission, 2841 02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:43,760 Speaker 2: so they sometimes you have to go back to Juco 2842 02:07:43,960 --> 02:07:46,600 Speaker 2: or something, and these kids can come back at twenty five. 2843 02:07:46,680 --> 02:07:48,480 Speaker 2: But I played with a lot of guys that like 2844 02:07:48,600 --> 02:07:51,720 Speaker 2: went to BYU or like a lot of by used 2845 02:07:51,760 --> 02:07:53,800 Speaker 2: to come to my Juco College of Mateo and pick 2846 02:07:53,840 --> 02:07:54,640 Speaker 2: guys up all the time. 2847 02:07:54,960 --> 02:07:58,280 Speaker 6: Really yeah, wow, they were trying to convert you or now. 2848 02:07:58,720 --> 02:08:00,720 Speaker 2: They didn't pick me up. I feel I didn't pick 2849 02:08:00,760 --> 02:08:02,760 Speaker 2: me up. I feel that they didn't try to convert 2850 02:08:02,800 --> 02:08:03,040 Speaker 2: me yet. 2851 02:08:04,120 --> 02:08:04,760 Speaker 1: I know. 2852 02:08:08,880 --> 02:08:10,280 Speaker 2: All right, jump on the other end of the bed 2853 02:08:10,320 --> 02:08:11,520 Speaker 2: for you, man. 2854 02:08:11,920 --> 02:08:13,760 Speaker 3: Awesome story. We gotta go check out. 2855 02:08:15,400 --> 02:08:17,560 Speaker 2: What Sorry, just more soaking. 2856 02:08:20,800 --> 02:08:21,800 Speaker 1: Good job, good form. 2857 02:08:22,120 --> 02:08:24,360 Speaker 2: Hey, you gotta have that guy bro in the l 2858 02:08:24,440 --> 02:08:25,600 Speaker 2: d S community. We need you. 2859 02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:28,720 Speaker 6: Gotta have that guy. It's like a wingman two point oh. 2860 02:08:30,680 --> 02:08:31,040 Speaker 2: Keep going. 2861 02:08:31,120 --> 02:08:33,720 Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, sorry, Jack, explain this segment to us. 2862 02:08:33,840 --> 02:08:36,680 Speaker 6: All right, wait, Jules, were you talking about by though? 2863 02:08:36,720 --> 02:08:41,640 Speaker 6: So alright, alright, sorry, alright, thanks, thanks, we love you, 2864 02:08:41,760 --> 02:08:43,560 Speaker 6: We love Jake bretzlfy. 2865 02:08:44,080 --> 02:08:45,120 Speaker 2: Come on, baby playoffs. 2866 02:08:47,120 --> 02:08:51,120 Speaker 6: Since we're talking about the Olympics. It's our first Olympic episode, 2867 02:08:51,160 --> 02:08:52,280 Speaker 6: by the way, pretty sweet. 2868 02:08:53,120 --> 02:08:55,920 Speaker 2: I think we got a couple moore coming, we got 2869 02:08:56,000 --> 02:08:56,480 Speaker 2: more coming. 2870 02:08:56,560 --> 02:08:58,360 Speaker 3: We are, we got one in the bank. 2871 02:08:58,240 --> 02:09:00,840 Speaker 2: Because the New Olympic podcast. Baby, yeah, we got, we got, 2872 02:09:00,960 --> 02:09:02,840 Speaker 2: we got, we got a special special. We got a 2873 02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:03,760 Speaker 2: couple of specials. 2874 02:09:04,240 --> 02:09:08,640 Speaker 6: So shout out, shout out to the IOC, baby, shout 2875 02:09:08,680 --> 02:09:11,120 Speaker 6: out FIFA, upstanding organization. 2876 02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:15,400 Speaker 1: We can we can start. You can start planning games 2877 02:09:15,440 --> 02:09:16,920 Speaker 1: with names at the Olympics in twenty two. 2878 02:09:18,120 --> 02:09:23,400 Speaker 2: Where's it at here? Oh shit, traffic's gonna be a 2879 02:09:23,480 --> 02:09:27,600 Speaker 2: bit Oh shoot, oh my god. Just hang out in 2880 02:09:27,600 --> 02:09:31,480 Speaker 2: the village. Just post up in the village. Bro, how's 2881 02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:35,400 Speaker 2: that cardboard bed like? Hanging out? Man? All right, all right, 2882 02:09:35,440 --> 02:09:35,720 Speaker 2: all right. 2883 02:09:36,200 --> 02:09:39,720 Speaker 6: So the episode here was an Olympic episode, so it 2884 02:09:39,880 --> 02:09:44,360 Speaker 6: felt fitting that we try to build an ideal US 2885 02:09:44,440 --> 02:09:49,080 Speaker 6: Olympic team using only NFL players. Okay, so you might have, 2886 02:09:49,280 --> 02:09:51,840 Speaker 6: Oh we need someone for one hundred meter dash, Terry 2887 02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:54,680 Speaker 6: Tyreek Hill. Oh my god, we gotta fill out an 2888 02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:56,960 Speaker 6: equestrian team. Who's gonna be dressage? 2889 02:09:57,640 --> 02:09:59,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if that is. We'll learn, we'll learn, 2890 02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:00,840 Speaker 2: we'll learn that kind of thing. 2891 02:10:01,280 --> 02:10:05,160 Speaker 6: So our pool to choose from is only NFL players past, 2892 02:10:05,320 --> 02:10:08,920 Speaker 6: some current or some present, a present, some past. 2893 02:10:09,240 --> 02:10:10,080 Speaker 3: Okay, well. 2894 02:10:11,640 --> 02:10:12,320 Speaker 2: Let's get into it. 2895 02:10:14,640 --> 02:10:17,960 Speaker 3: I mean, you got Tyreek, I get so my my, 2896 02:10:18,280 --> 02:10:20,280 Speaker 3: my broadcast coach, Joe Montgomery. 2897 02:10:20,360 --> 02:10:22,440 Speaker 2: She gets mad at me even well she gets she 2898 02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:26,040 Speaker 2: gets mad at any NFL guy. She comes from track 2899 02:10:26,760 --> 02:10:29,720 Speaker 2: track background. I didn't know that, or like any analyst 2900 02:10:29,840 --> 02:10:32,240 Speaker 2: that says, like this guy's got track speed. She looks 2901 02:10:32,280 --> 02:10:37,520 Speaker 2: and she goes, no, they don't. Track speed is different speeds, 2902 02:10:37,560 --> 02:10:38,840 Speaker 2: like Tyreek Hill's got track speed. 2903 02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:43,680 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, he's like, she gets mad and flat hundred. Huh, 2904 02:10:43,800 --> 02:10:45,280 Speaker 5: he's running like a ten flat hundred. 2905 02:10:46,080 --> 02:10:48,200 Speaker 2: Jeff, what about Demps who played on our team. 2906 02:10:48,240 --> 02:10:50,560 Speaker 5: He's also in the Olympics. 2907 02:10:51,040 --> 02:10:54,240 Speaker 2: Best was in the Olympics. Yeah, from cal Chris Johnson 2908 02:10:54,360 --> 02:10:55,160 Speaker 2: was fucking lightning. 2909 02:10:55,360 --> 02:10:57,440 Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, fastest forty times for a minute there. 2910 02:10:57,840 --> 02:11:00,600 Speaker 5: What about Bob Hayes right from the what about? 2911 02:11:00,680 --> 02:11:01,160 Speaker 2: What about? 2912 02:11:01,280 --> 02:11:01,360 Speaker 6: Uh? 2913 02:11:01,720 --> 02:11:06,080 Speaker 2: I believe a sub ten to five high school guy 2914 02:11:06,200 --> 02:11:08,000 Speaker 2: here in the state of California that I played with. 2915 02:11:08,240 --> 02:11:13,360 Speaker 6: He was later later cooker, what's the guy the Eagles do? 2916 02:11:13,440 --> 02:11:16,320 Speaker 6: The guy on the Eagles was, uh, we're in an Oregon. 2917 02:11:16,840 --> 02:11:19,360 Speaker 3: What about oh uh the white boy? 2918 02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:20,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, the white guy. 2919 02:11:20,640 --> 02:11:25,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the hurdler. Yeah, they have another the Jeams 2920 02:11:25,840 --> 02:11:30,840 Speaker 2: probably on this too little. Yeah, it's uh oh yeah, 2921 02:11:30,880 --> 02:11:31,400 Speaker 2: Devin Allen. 2922 02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:33,480 Speaker 3: That's him, Devin Allen. He does the. 2923 02:11:35,040 --> 02:11:37,480 Speaker 2: Wait what is he? Wow, that's crazy. We'd have a 2924 02:11:37,560 --> 02:11:39,960 Speaker 2: hell of a four by one. We'd be fire, bro, 2925 02:11:40,520 --> 02:11:41,840 Speaker 2: we'd have hell of a four by one. 2926 02:11:42,960 --> 02:11:44,800 Speaker 6: He's a hurdles he's one hundred and ten meters hurdles. 2927 02:11:45,040 --> 02:11:48,360 Speaker 2: Dude. Jeff Demps was fast, bro, remember him, We had 2928 02:11:48,440 --> 02:11:51,360 Speaker 2: him in pre season. He like, I don't think coach 2929 02:11:51,440 --> 02:11:56,040 Speaker 2: let him go or something. I was gonna speaks. I 2930 02:11:56,160 --> 02:11:59,480 Speaker 2: never saw him. I saw him in the Olympics. So yeah, 2931 02:11:59,560 --> 02:12:02,520 Speaker 2: he was fast, bro. But it is different like. 2932 02:12:02,760 --> 02:12:03,640 Speaker 3: When you're just fast. 2933 02:12:04,240 --> 02:12:05,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, gotta train for you. 2934 02:12:06,880 --> 02:12:08,840 Speaker 3: You gotta put your foot in the ground and you can't. 2935 02:12:08,880 --> 02:12:11,520 Speaker 2: Oh, you don't always get to open up youah'd be 2936 02:12:11,560 --> 02:12:13,800 Speaker 2: more of like an indie car or like a Formula 2937 02:12:13,880 --> 02:12:17,640 Speaker 2: one car, not a dragster. You gotta have that good suspension. 2938 02:12:18,880 --> 02:12:20,360 Speaker 1: Jack, tell us about this all right. 2939 02:12:20,520 --> 02:12:24,520 Speaker 6: Next we have the decathlon. This was what many considered 2940 02:12:24,520 --> 02:12:26,320 Speaker 6: the greatest athlete in the world. You know, Bruce Jenner, 2941 02:12:26,680 --> 02:12:28,800 Speaker 6: all those guys. But now it's not gets a little 2942 02:12:28,800 --> 02:12:31,240 Speaker 6: bit overlooked now as far as so what is the decathlon? 2943 02:12:31,360 --> 02:12:31,560 Speaker 2: Jack? 2944 02:12:31,640 --> 02:12:34,320 Speaker 6: So it's one hundred meters, a long jump, the shot put, 2945 02:12:34,400 --> 02:12:37,040 Speaker 6: the high jump, four hundred meters, one hundred and ten meters, hurdles, 2946 02:12:37,280 --> 02:12:40,400 Speaker 6: discuss pull, vault, javelin in fifteen hundred meters. 2947 02:12:40,400 --> 02:12:43,520 Speaker 2: So it's like all these contestants all have to do 2948 02:12:43,800 --> 02:12:48,360 Speaker 2: all of those. Yes, Wow, what was Bruce Jenner's forty 2949 02:12:48,560 --> 02:12:52,880 Speaker 2: or one hundred? Let me look, that's insane. That's what 2950 02:12:53,080 --> 02:12:55,640 Speaker 2: I think my coach was. She was a decathlete. I 2951 02:12:55,680 --> 02:12:56,080 Speaker 2: didn't know that. 2952 02:12:56,560 --> 02:12:59,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, in the meantime, who were some NFL players you 2953 02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:00,600 Speaker 5: think could be all around. 2954 02:13:00,520 --> 02:13:01,400 Speaker 2: All around athlete? 2955 02:13:01,880 --> 02:13:05,840 Speaker 5: Throwing helps here, he had a ten point nine hundred 2956 02:13:06,240 --> 02:13:08,600 Speaker 5: ten nine slower than Tyreek. 2957 02:13:09,320 --> 02:13:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Tyreek long jump, I don't know, dude, Tyreek 2958 02:13:12,880 --> 02:13:14,720 Speaker 2: could probably do a lot of this. Ship fucking great. 2959 02:13:14,880 --> 02:13:17,560 Speaker 3: This is like a gives just a little ball muscle. 2960 02:13:17,880 --> 02:13:19,800 Speaker 2: He would be like like for every one of these events. 2961 02:13:19,960 --> 02:13:21,520 Speaker 6: So I got Tyrek. They're Tyrek in there. 2962 02:13:22,600 --> 02:13:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you think of brown all around athlete? 2963 02:13:27,560 --> 02:13:28,960 Speaker 5: How would Deon Sanders do here? 2964 02:13:29,040 --> 02:13:31,839 Speaker 2: I bet Dian would be nice. Dion would kill everything 2965 02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:34,080 Speaker 2: that was running but he he. I don't think he 2966 02:13:34,160 --> 02:13:34,880 Speaker 2: could shock put. 2967 02:13:35,480 --> 02:13:35,800 Speaker 1: I don't. 2968 02:13:36,080 --> 02:13:38,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe he could discuss. 2969 02:13:41,080 --> 02:13:41,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. 2970 02:13:41,520 --> 02:13:41,760 Speaker 3: Prime. 2971 02:13:43,080 --> 02:13:46,080 Speaker 1: Everyone gets to do the everyone gets to be their prime. 2972 02:13:46,720 --> 02:13:48,760 Speaker 2: Makecalf d k specimen. 2973 02:13:49,440 --> 02:13:51,040 Speaker 3: He looks like the new sprinter man. 2974 02:13:51,240 --> 02:13:51,520 Speaker 1: He does. 2975 02:13:51,640 --> 02:13:52,040 Speaker 2: He tried. 2976 02:13:52,120 --> 02:13:54,760 Speaker 5: He was in the Olympic trials too. He's fast, Yeah, 2977 02:13:55,440 --> 02:13:57,480 Speaker 5: you can't make half fast. Yeah, and he's strong. 2978 02:13:58,040 --> 02:13:59,560 Speaker 2: I'm kind of leaning DK in this one. 2979 02:14:00,040 --> 02:14:01,280 Speaker 1: You going DK weird way? 2980 02:14:01,320 --> 02:14:02,040 Speaker 2: He just him brown. 2981 02:14:02,960 --> 02:14:03,640 Speaker 1: That's tough though. 2982 02:14:04,240 --> 02:14:07,520 Speaker 2: Jackson bo Jackson bow nos baby, I think bo let's 2983 02:14:07,520 --> 02:14:09,480 Speaker 2: go Boos. Does he can do it all? Baby? 2984 02:14:09,600 --> 02:14:09,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 2985 02:14:10,280 --> 02:14:14,880 Speaker 2: Multi sports, I think gotta go wrestling, Oh Steven Neil 2986 02:14:14,920 --> 02:14:18,120 Speaker 2: bro oh easy. He was the he'd beat brock Lessner. 2987 02:14:18,760 --> 02:14:20,880 Speaker 3: I don't think they had an Olympics when he was 2988 02:14:20,960 --> 02:14:22,200 Speaker 3: there doing it? 2989 02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:23,120 Speaker 8: Was it? 2990 02:14:23,800 --> 02:14:24,960 Speaker 2: Maybe he wasn't an Olympics. 2991 02:14:25,040 --> 02:14:28,480 Speaker 1: Like wrestling there's I don't think it ever officially left. 2992 02:14:28,800 --> 02:14:32,480 Speaker 2: Aaron Donold was a fucking badass wrestler. Ray Lewis ray 2993 02:14:32,560 --> 02:14:34,840 Speaker 2: Lewis is he he? I think he wrestled in high 2994 02:14:34,840 --> 02:14:36,200 Speaker 2: school and ship. I think he's all state. 2995 02:14:36,480 --> 02:14:39,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's lightning fast and big man. 2996 02:14:39,880 --> 02:14:41,960 Speaker 6: Like, how could you ever remove wrestling, Like, how is 2997 02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:44,920 Speaker 6: it even on the chopping block wrestling sport? 2998 02:14:45,120 --> 02:14:47,880 Speaker 5: Wait, so it is when the Olympics or not it is, 2999 02:14:48,240 --> 02:14:49,600 Speaker 5: but they've been like trying to get rid of it 3000 02:14:50,600 --> 02:14:51,960 Speaker 5: when Steve Neil was there, I believe. 3001 02:14:52,000 --> 02:14:53,440 Speaker 2: So how come he was an Olympic team? 3002 02:14:53,520 --> 02:14:55,920 Speaker 1: Let me look because he was probably playing football now. 3003 02:14:55,920 --> 02:14:57,080 Speaker 3: No, Steve Neil was the best. 3004 02:14:58,040 --> 02:15:01,200 Speaker 2: I remember before Locals got shut down, he bought a 3005 02:15:01,280 --> 02:15:05,200 Speaker 2: pal out of it in like New Hampshire because Massachusetts 3006 02:15:05,240 --> 02:15:07,560 Speaker 2: shut it down. So he went to New Hampshire and 3007 02:15:07,600 --> 02:15:11,640 Speaker 2: got a Pallette a fucking old school for Locals. When 3008 02:15:11,680 --> 02:15:14,120 Speaker 2: people were dying, this guy would take. This guy would 3009 02:15:14,160 --> 02:15:17,600 Speaker 2: drink it like it was like a wine. He was 3010 02:15:17,640 --> 02:15:20,840 Speaker 2: a badass. He couldn't even move his shoulders for the 3011 02:15:20,920 --> 02:15:24,480 Speaker 2: last like the any year I met him, his last 3012 02:15:24,560 --> 02:15:26,960 Speaker 2: couple of years of his career, his shoulders were like 3013 02:15:27,280 --> 02:15:29,280 Speaker 2: they'd have to like put his shoulders in place before 3014 02:15:29,280 --> 02:15:31,440 Speaker 2: a game and he would go manhandle people, Like how 3015 02:15:31,560 --> 02:15:35,560 Speaker 2: fuck is he grabbing people? He can't even moving his shoulder. Literally, 3016 02:15:35,640 --> 02:15:37,480 Speaker 2: he had these braces where they had like it was 3017 02:15:37,560 --> 02:15:41,080 Speaker 2: like like one of those old school beret things. 3018 02:15:41,200 --> 02:15:42,800 Speaker 3: What are those where they pull the girls. 3019 02:15:43,440 --> 02:15:46,960 Speaker 2: Oh of course, yeah, of course he shoulder like they 3020 02:15:47,000 --> 02:15:49,880 Speaker 2: would pull it back and it would like and then 3021 02:15:49,920 --> 02:15:51,640 Speaker 2: I was like, how the what the hell? 3022 02:15:51,680 --> 02:15:53,680 Speaker 3: And then you'd see him grabbing a man handling. 3023 02:15:54,560 --> 02:15:56,560 Speaker 5: It sounds like we've got our resting. 3024 02:15:57,200 --> 02:16:00,880 Speaker 6: Cow State Bakersfield two times and C Double A Division 3025 02:16:00,960 --> 02:16:05,400 Speaker 6: one champion, ninety ninety nine World champ. 3026 02:16:05,760 --> 02:16:06,880 Speaker 2: Yeah no, n C Double A. 3027 02:16:07,240 --> 02:16:08,840 Speaker 1: No, I don't think he's at that level, but they 3028 02:16:08,960 --> 02:16:12,320 Speaker 1: they beat at that level. 3029 02:16:12,360 --> 02:16:16,160 Speaker 6: He was in the national championship, national champions different championships. 3030 02:16:16,320 --> 02:16:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he beat him. Bro still Yeah, they dropped him, dude, 3031 02:16:19,600 --> 02:16:23,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. Man. Aaron Donald he was a wrestling 3032 02:16:24,200 --> 02:16:26,080 Speaker 2: champ too, isn't he. He's got like the body type 3033 02:16:26,120 --> 02:16:28,040 Speaker 2: for it too, where he's like big but he's lean. 3034 02:16:28,320 --> 02:16:29,800 Speaker 2: So if you can get the weight up and still be. 3035 02:16:30,680 --> 02:16:32,760 Speaker 1: Short, but that's a disadvantage to be shorter. 3036 02:16:33,160 --> 02:16:35,160 Speaker 3: Now you got built in pad level bring you in 3037 02:16:35,240 --> 02:16:35,520 Speaker 3: to him. 3038 02:16:35,680 --> 02:16:38,640 Speaker 5: But then they sometimes you can't. If you get a 3039 02:16:38,879 --> 02:16:40,160 Speaker 5: lanky guy dude. 3040 02:16:40,080 --> 02:16:42,240 Speaker 2: So quick and he just like make you do your 3041 02:16:42,320 --> 02:16:44,320 Speaker 2: move and then like crab around you and get you 3042 02:16:45,000 --> 02:16:45,400 Speaker 2: just fast. 3043 02:16:45,560 --> 02:16:45,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 3044 02:16:46,920 --> 02:16:49,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to Steve Neil though, me to gotta go 3045 02:16:49,080 --> 02:16:53,480 Speaker 2: with Steve Archery. Archer gotta be accurate, you gotta have 3046 02:16:53,560 --> 02:16:57,880 Speaker 2: good aim, gonna be poised. I mean that light is 3047 02:16:57,959 --> 02:17:00,400 Speaker 2: like if there is any kind of turkey being kind 3048 02:17:00,440 --> 02:17:03,280 Speaker 2: of specimenum our properties, that thing would probably be gone. 3049 02:17:03,360 --> 02:17:04,640 Speaker 2: With Matt Light's bone arrow. 3050 02:17:04,720 --> 02:17:06,800 Speaker 5: Oh my god, I feel like all the kickers would 3051 02:17:06,800 --> 02:17:09,879 Speaker 5: do well here, Kickers, Brandon cook. 3052 02:17:09,959 --> 02:17:12,320 Speaker 2: Cooks, Brandon Cooks, they pulls it out. 3053 02:17:12,560 --> 02:17:13,320 Speaker 3: I don't think he can. 3054 02:17:13,680 --> 02:17:15,039 Speaker 2: So what's the what's the deal with that? You can 3055 02:17:15,120 --> 02:17:17,080 Speaker 2: pull out a bone arrow, but you can't shoot a 3056 02:17:17,120 --> 02:17:19,760 Speaker 2: gun in the league celebration and they change it around. 3057 02:17:19,760 --> 02:17:21,400 Speaker 1: We were just talking about we were just talking about that. Yeah, 3058 02:17:21,640 --> 02:17:24,720 Speaker 1: it was archery was illegal in celebration, but now I 3059 02:17:24,720 --> 02:17:25,320 Speaker 1: think it's back. 3060 02:17:25,480 --> 02:17:29,800 Speaker 2: No, archery's back, Yeah, Robin Hood, it's in season. Aaron Rodgers, 3061 02:17:29,840 --> 02:17:32,119 Speaker 2: he'd probably be I bet you he'd be really He's 3062 02:17:32,120 --> 02:17:35,359 Speaker 2: probably really good at like all that ship shooting darts, 3063 02:17:36,320 --> 02:17:38,800 Speaker 2: any kind of accuracy you have, Aaron Rodgers got he 3064 02:17:38,879 --> 02:17:41,760 Speaker 2: probably got a right eye dominant that just fucking I 3065 02:17:41,840 --> 02:17:43,840 Speaker 2: bet you he could be really good with a pistol. 3066 02:17:43,800 --> 02:17:44,240 Speaker 5: Aren't like. 3067 02:17:45,040 --> 02:17:48,640 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers probably be a great West Wall Wall West drawer. 3068 02:17:52,800 --> 02:17:54,560 Speaker 2: I bet you'd have a quick because he kind of 3069 02:17:54,640 --> 02:17:58,080 Speaker 2: does that when he's like when he does something good, 3070 02:17:58,160 --> 02:18:00,760 Speaker 2: he kind of puts his arms into like a fucking I. 3071 02:18:00,760 --> 02:18:03,000 Speaker 5: Feel like he took that from Brett Favre though, like 3072 02:18:03,200 --> 02:18:04,760 Speaker 5: learn that from Brett fire watching. 3073 02:18:04,600 --> 02:18:09,920 Speaker 2: Them, Nah, maybe maybe I'm time time bias or what 3074 02:18:10,080 --> 02:18:12,200 Speaker 2: is it called renas recency bias? 3075 02:18:12,480 --> 02:18:13,080 Speaker 5: Breakdancing? 3076 02:18:13,200 --> 02:18:15,920 Speaker 2: Breakdancing? Oh my god, got y gun? 3077 02:18:16,200 --> 02:18:18,520 Speaker 3: So what's up with I don't remember this? What happened 3078 02:18:18,560 --> 02:18:23,160 Speaker 3: with this girl? How it's people? 3079 02:18:23,720 --> 02:18:27,000 Speaker 2: You got people training their lives to get into the Olympics, 3080 02:18:27,080 --> 02:18:29,040 Speaker 2: and what was this? I want to know. 3081 02:18:29,120 --> 02:18:31,160 Speaker 3: I want to know the breakdown. I don't know the story, 3082 02:18:32,040 --> 02:18:33,440 Speaker 3: but I saw some stuff. 3083 02:18:33,840 --> 02:18:37,280 Speaker 6: So she I'm probably gonna leave some stuff out here. 3084 02:18:37,520 --> 02:18:40,400 Speaker 6: She's like a professor in Australia of like some kind 3085 02:18:40,400 --> 02:18:43,600 Speaker 6: of cultural studies or whatever of like breakdance. Yeah, like 3086 02:18:43,680 --> 02:18:49,520 Speaker 6: break like which encompasses that she like does breaking competed 3087 02:18:49,600 --> 02:18:52,520 Speaker 6: in I think like maybe the most world events in 3088 02:18:52,640 --> 02:18:55,400 Speaker 6: like the qualifications she's working, but she's done them. 3089 02:18:55,480 --> 02:18:57,760 Speaker 5: Yes, it's a new sport and this is the only 3090 02:18:57,800 --> 02:18:59,320 Speaker 5: time it'll be in the Olympics, So there's a lot 3091 02:18:59,360 --> 02:18:59,680 Speaker 5: of stuff. 3092 02:18:59,720 --> 02:19:04,160 Speaker 6: But then there was some controversy among why Australia chose 3093 02:19:04,240 --> 02:19:07,960 Speaker 6: her as their representative out of like like to send 3094 02:19:07,959 --> 02:19:09,640 Speaker 6: to the Olympics and not some of the other people 3095 02:19:09,879 --> 02:19:12,360 Speaker 6: that were trying to trying to qualify, like and there 3096 02:19:12,440 --> 02:19:15,840 Speaker 6: was some they accused just like some shady stuff. Then 3097 02:19:15,920 --> 02:19:19,800 Speaker 6: she got to the Olympics and her bee boy routine, 3098 02:19:19,959 --> 02:19:24,000 Speaker 6: breakdance routine was not on the level of like it 3099 02:19:24,120 --> 02:19:25,760 Speaker 6: was like she got like she became like the meme 3100 02:19:25,840 --> 02:19:26,800 Speaker 6: of the Olympics. 3101 02:19:27,560 --> 02:19:28,800 Speaker 2: I mean it was kind of fire, I thought, but 3102 02:19:28,959 --> 02:19:32,440 Speaker 2: like she everyone else situation. I think that's what they were. 3103 02:19:32,480 --> 02:19:35,240 Speaker 6: They were claiming like some some backdoor dealings, like she 3104 02:19:35,360 --> 02:19:40,520 Speaker 6: knew the the lady that was running the IOCN qualifications. 3105 02:19:41,280 --> 02:19:45,920 Speaker 2: Point. That's all there in FIFA Olympics. 3106 02:19:46,879 --> 02:19:50,160 Speaker 6: They're fucking it's it's I don't know, there's who knows 3107 02:19:50,200 --> 02:19:50,880 Speaker 6: what's going on behind it. 3108 02:19:50,879 --> 02:19:52,320 Speaker 3: There's something behind those doors. 3109 02:19:54,000 --> 02:19:55,960 Speaker 5: Someone this guy though, I mean, I don't eve want 3110 02:19:55,959 --> 02:19:58,120 Speaker 5: to get into bad before we before we break dancing, 3111 02:19:58,280 --> 02:19:58,680 Speaker 5: I was going to. 3112 02:19:58,720 --> 02:20:01,040 Speaker 3: Talk about this guy. That guy is my hero of 3113 02:20:01,160 --> 02:20:01,760 Speaker 3: the Olympics. 3114 02:20:02,800 --> 02:20:03,080 Speaker 5: Shooter. 3115 02:20:03,320 --> 02:20:05,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, where is he from East Eastern Europe? 3116 02:20:05,520 --> 02:20:05,600 Speaker 2: Right? 3117 02:20:06,320 --> 02:20:06,640 Speaker 3: Turkey. 3118 02:20:06,879 --> 02:20:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he just rolls up Turkey, no ear muffs? 3119 02:20:10,920 --> 02:20:11,800 Speaker 3: Did he any places? 3120 02:20:11,840 --> 02:20:16,280 Speaker 2: Didn't he? Yeah? Yusef yusef check that dude. Is that 3121 02:20:16,400 --> 02:20:20,760 Speaker 2: dude should be casted as like the next John Wick? Yeah, bro, 3122 02:20:20,879 --> 02:20:21,400 Speaker 2: he doesn't care. 3123 02:20:21,520 --> 02:20:23,800 Speaker 1: Do we know what his day job isn't Turkey? He's 3124 02:20:23,840 --> 02:20:25,160 Speaker 1: probably already John Wick? 3125 02:20:26,440 --> 02:20:28,320 Speaker 6: What does he just rolled out of bed, threw on 3126 02:20:28,400 --> 02:20:31,240 Speaker 6: the glasses, hand in pocket? What else can you win 3127 02:20:31,280 --> 02:20:32,920 Speaker 6: an Olympic medal in with your hand in your pocket? 3128 02:20:33,120 --> 02:20:35,240 Speaker 6: I want to He's got some cool gray ass hair, 3129 02:20:35,360 --> 02:20:39,760 Speaker 6: got a little swoop, dude. I also like about this. 3130 02:20:39,879 --> 02:20:43,240 Speaker 2: There was like a Korean Wait does everyone else use 3131 02:20:43,320 --> 02:20:44,360 Speaker 2: two hands on this thing? 3132 02:20:44,879 --> 02:20:44,920 Speaker 8: No? 3133 02:20:45,080 --> 02:20:46,840 Speaker 5: I think they all do one, but all of them 3134 02:20:46,879 --> 02:20:50,199 Speaker 5: have like weird like glasses and scopes and ship. 3135 02:20:51,200 --> 02:20:54,840 Speaker 2: Like there's yeah. So like there's like a Korean woman 3136 02:20:55,560 --> 02:20:59,280 Speaker 2: who has like he's cool in the opposite direction, like 3137 02:20:59,360 --> 02:21:01,800 Speaker 2: the gears wagon yeah quarterback. 3138 02:21:03,160 --> 02:21:03,280 Speaker 1: Here. 3139 02:21:03,840 --> 02:21:04,880 Speaker 2: So then there's this lady. 3140 02:21:05,800 --> 02:21:08,480 Speaker 6: She goes the opposite way with like the blacked down 3141 02:21:08,560 --> 02:21:11,280 Speaker 6: eye and she's got the that can't be legal. It 3142 02:21:11,400 --> 02:21:14,160 Speaker 6: looked like the glasses you were catching punts with, bro, bro, 3143 02:21:15,640 --> 02:21:16,480 Speaker 6: so that's legal. 3144 02:21:16,560 --> 02:21:18,840 Speaker 2: I think like ye, how boundary? 3145 02:21:18,959 --> 02:21:21,640 Speaker 3: How long has this event been in the Olympics for 3146 02:21:21,680 --> 02:21:22,000 Speaker 3: a while? 3147 02:21:22,840 --> 02:21:24,640 Speaker 5: Ante, do you mean to tell me. 3148 02:21:24,680 --> 02:21:27,760 Speaker 2: People in nineteen nineteen hundred or when they first invented 3149 02:21:27,840 --> 02:21:34,160 Speaker 2: this this thing? They had fucking evolves cyclops visions? Also, 3150 02:21:35,080 --> 02:21:37,280 Speaker 2: fucking you can't have a cyclop vision. 3151 02:21:38,480 --> 02:21:40,440 Speaker 1: We got to write a letter to the IOC. 3152 02:21:40,760 --> 02:21:43,840 Speaker 2: You remember those Google glasses. This lady's got those Google glasses. 3153 02:21:44,680 --> 02:21:45,720 Speaker 3: I wore those things. 3154 02:21:47,400 --> 02:21:49,920 Speaker 2: What are we doing, bro? This guy's this guy has been. 3155 02:21:50,080 --> 02:21:51,160 Speaker 1: That was our first shooting. 3156 02:21:54,160 --> 02:21:57,000 Speaker 2: Done shot put Vince Wilfork, James Harrison's probably a fucking 3157 02:21:57,080 --> 02:21:58,440 Speaker 2: load on that. I bet you he knows how to 3158 02:21:58,480 --> 02:22:00,320 Speaker 2: do it too. I think he definitely. I think he 3159 02:22:00,440 --> 02:22:05,359 Speaker 2: did it rhythmic gymnastics. Who was in the rhythmic gymnastics 3160 02:22:06,040 --> 02:22:09,360 Speaker 2: that remember, I'm just thinking bad Dola, Bro, gotta put 3161 02:22:09,400 --> 02:22:09,920 Speaker 2: Dola in there. 3162 02:22:10,040 --> 02:22:12,320 Speaker 6: Hey, Dola got that rhythm? Who they put in there 3163 02:22:12,320 --> 02:22:13,240 Speaker 6: in old school? Whod they make? 3164 02:22:13,440 --> 02:22:17,640 Speaker 2: When that it was? And then when he did the 3165 02:22:18,959 --> 02:22:21,840 Speaker 2: he did the horse or no, oh, no, know how 3166 02:22:21,879 --> 02:22:23,960 Speaker 2: to dance? Oh can shake a baby? I bet you 3167 02:22:24,040 --> 02:22:27,320 Speaker 2: he he looked pretty. He killed that thing, Bro, I 3168 02:22:27,400 --> 02:22:29,600 Speaker 2: drove by. I think Baker would do it just had 3169 02:22:29,600 --> 02:22:33,320 Speaker 2: a fun I can see Baker doing like a like 3170 02:22:33,400 --> 02:22:35,000 Speaker 2: an s n L skit doing that and like. 3171 02:22:36,600 --> 02:22:41,840 Speaker 1: Like synchronized swimming now called artistics swimming. 3172 02:22:41,959 --> 02:22:44,039 Speaker 2: Yes, this is a unit based I think. 3173 02:22:45,520 --> 02:22:45,920 Speaker 3: Artistic. 3174 02:22:46,360 --> 02:22:48,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe it's just not about just being in order. 3175 02:22:48,320 --> 02:22:50,000 Speaker 5: Maybe it's just being creative. 3176 02:22:51,400 --> 02:22:51,760 Speaker 1: I like that. 3177 02:22:51,840 --> 02:22:53,320 Speaker 5: I likes Jack Angle on this. It's gotta be a 3178 02:22:53,440 --> 02:22:55,959 Speaker 5: unit like the Legion of Boom or the Big Blue 3179 02:22:56,000 --> 02:22:56,840 Speaker 5: Wrecking Crew or the. 3180 02:22:56,879 --> 02:23:03,720 Speaker 2: Steel and the Steel, the Purple. Something tells me they 3181 02:23:03,760 --> 02:23:07,480 Speaker 2: could do it. The twenty twenty four receiving Corps for 3182 02:23:07,600 --> 02:23:09,040 Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions. 3183 02:23:09,120 --> 02:23:10,720 Speaker 6: Those guys seem kind of I don't know, they seem 3184 02:23:10,720 --> 02:23:12,880 Speaker 6: a little bit of sinc They seem very sync and 3185 02:23:13,200 --> 02:23:15,720 Speaker 6: good body control. I think I'm just reading into it. 3186 02:23:15,760 --> 02:23:19,039 Speaker 6: Maybe Dan Campbell will coach him up to Dan Cambell 3187 02:23:19,080 --> 02:23:21,960 Speaker 6: coaching sinking. Could you see him cut the commercial? 3188 02:23:22,040 --> 02:23:28,240 Speaker 2: Now? Oh good? If we don't get those spirit ankles, 3189 02:23:28,680 --> 02:23:30,120 Speaker 2: we'll be here all goddamn night. 3190 02:23:31,760 --> 02:23:33,200 Speaker 3: Ping pong ping. 3191 02:23:33,600 --> 02:23:34,360 Speaker 1: Oh this is you, bro. 3192 02:23:34,800 --> 02:23:38,120 Speaker 2: Nah, I wouldn't be that good. What Dola would be 3193 02:23:38,160 --> 02:23:41,199 Speaker 2: the king at like from my groups. But there's there's 3194 02:23:41,320 --> 02:23:44,080 Speaker 2: like some probably really good ping pong players in the NFL. 3195 02:23:43,920 --> 02:23:45,120 Speaker 6: Dola would be shirtless too. 3196 02:23:45,440 --> 02:23:48,160 Speaker 2: I think Olympic. Who's good. 3197 02:23:48,360 --> 02:23:50,320 Speaker 3: Who's probably met you the court? I bet you like 3198 02:23:50,400 --> 02:23:51,520 Speaker 3: Burrows pretty good? 3199 02:23:52,160 --> 02:23:52,480 Speaker 2: I bet you. 3200 02:23:52,680 --> 02:23:54,480 Speaker 3: I bet you My homes is good. 3201 02:23:54,959 --> 02:23:55,240 Speaker 2: Good. 3202 02:23:56,000 --> 02:23:57,600 Speaker 6: They were saying, Saquan is supposed to be good. 3203 02:23:59,200 --> 02:24:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, take, I mean, it wouldn't surprise me. 3204 02:24:02,240 --> 02:24:06,240 Speaker 6: What's your opinion on ping pong table in locker room? 3205 02:24:07,040 --> 02:24:09,240 Speaker 2: It depends on the season and the team. Yeah, I 3206 02:24:09,280 --> 02:24:10,880 Speaker 2: can see that depends on the season of the team. 3207 02:24:10,920 --> 02:24:12,840 Speaker 2: If you have a team that can can handle it. Yeah, 3208 02:24:12,920 --> 02:24:15,840 Speaker 2: it's whatever. We a couple of seasons we'd have it 3209 02:24:16,080 --> 02:24:18,520 Speaker 2: like you had to go through the equipment room to 3210 02:24:18,600 --> 02:24:20,240 Speaker 2: the back laundry room and it would be like right 3211 02:24:20,320 --> 02:24:23,120 Speaker 2: by the the fucking dryers and we'd be playing ping 3212 02:24:23,200 --> 02:24:27,360 Speaker 2: pong next dryers and ship speak five minutes, get like 3213 02:24:27,720 --> 02:24:29,720 Speaker 2: a quick game to eight or seven? 3214 02:24:30,120 --> 02:24:31,640 Speaker 5: When do we get in a ping pong table here? 3215 02:24:32,040 --> 02:24:37,000 Speaker 2: I know, it's just it gets too wild, going everywhere, 3216 02:24:38,400 --> 02:24:41,560 Speaker 2: chasing the amidity and the nuthouse up sweat. They'd be 3217 02:24:41,680 --> 02:24:44,800 Speaker 2: sweat everywhere. I'd be dripping puddle, like we we sweat 3218 02:24:44,840 --> 02:24:47,680 Speaker 2: when we play. This isn't this isn't fucking the floor's 3219 02:24:47,680 --> 02:24:50,120 Speaker 2: got to be unfinished. Bro Sunshine of Rainbows man, Me 3220 02:24:50,160 --> 02:24:52,280 Speaker 2: and Dolo used to play that stuff for hours, bro 3221 02:24:52,440 --> 02:24:55,600 Speaker 2: jating on the ground, fucking shirts off. 3222 02:24:56,720 --> 02:25:00,680 Speaker 5: Team spin in the garage, like wheeled it onto the 3223 02:25:00,720 --> 02:25:01,000 Speaker 5: cul de. 3224 02:25:01,080 --> 02:25:04,360 Speaker 2: Sac, hmmm under the lights, fun for the whole neighborhood, 3225 02:25:04,920 --> 02:25:06,720 Speaker 2: or yeah, we gotta we could do it in the 3226 02:25:06,760 --> 02:25:10,920 Speaker 2: backyard somewhere. But I don't like wind. Dated outdoors. Dated 3227 02:25:10,959 --> 02:25:13,680 Speaker 2: You get these, you get these, you know, marine layers 3228 02:25:13,720 --> 02:25:15,720 Speaker 2: that come in over here in the west Side. You 3229 02:25:15,800 --> 02:25:18,680 Speaker 2: know you're dealing with the fucking wind. And I'm playing 3230 02:25:18,720 --> 02:25:21,000 Speaker 2: that what is this? I'm playing a lambeau Field for 3231 02:25:21,080 --> 02:25:21,920 Speaker 2: fucking ping pong. 3232 02:25:22,760 --> 02:25:26,720 Speaker 5: That would be kind of cool elements. 3233 02:25:26,840 --> 02:25:29,480 Speaker 2: So the fucking coin flip is so huge, I don't 3234 02:25:29,520 --> 02:25:31,920 Speaker 2: take the ball. I take this direction, pulling a Bellichick 3235 02:25:31,959 --> 02:25:32,560 Speaker 2: in ping pong. 3236 02:25:36,000 --> 02:25:37,520 Speaker 10: We might have been playing the driveway in the rain. 3237 02:25:37,600 --> 02:25:42,119 Speaker 10: Sometimes that's dedication in the rain. It didn't work very well. 3238 02:25:42,360 --> 02:25:44,960 Speaker 10: Could you imagine Bill, if that was real? You just 3239 02:25:45,000 --> 02:25:47,039 Speaker 10: spraying the ping pong ball with fucking water. 3240 02:25:47,440 --> 02:25:51,879 Speaker 2: Play It's got the hose just hosing the table wet 3241 02:25:51,920 --> 02:25:52,360 Speaker 2: ball drill. 3242 02:25:53,760 --> 02:25:54,160 Speaker 1: Should we go? 3243 02:25:55,200 --> 02:25:57,360 Speaker 6: You gotta all right, we gotta do drisage and then 3244 02:25:57,360 --> 02:26:01,640 Speaker 6: we'll wrap it up with so dreusage. Horse is a 3245 02:26:01,680 --> 02:26:06,080 Speaker 6: questrian event that is often described as horse dancing. The 3246 02:26:06,200 --> 02:26:09,760 Speaker 6: horse now you prance. It's like, there's a lot of prance. 3247 02:26:09,800 --> 02:26:11,600 Speaker 6: There's a lot of prancing. It's you gotta be in 3248 02:26:11,720 --> 02:26:14,880 Speaker 6: sync rider and horse. It's it's something else. You gotta 3249 02:26:14,879 --> 02:26:17,800 Speaker 6: see it to believe it. Snoop went viral for uh 3250 02:26:18,000 --> 02:26:19,560 Speaker 6: he and Kevin Hart did like a breakdown of it 3251 02:26:19,600 --> 02:26:20,160 Speaker 6: two Olympics. 3252 02:26:20,400 --> 02:26:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I went viral horse. I just think of Terry 3253 02:26:23,000 --> 02:26:28,720 Speaker 2: Bradshaw me too. I think he shows a bunch of horses. 3254 02:26:28,760 --> 02:26:29,520 Speaker 3: He's in that world. 3255 02:26:29,640 --> 02:26:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, he like once in a while he's like yeah, 3256 02:26:33,040 --> 02:26:34,520 Speaker 2: he calls me, hey, son, I just got a new 3257 02:26:34,600 --> 02:26:40,000 Speaker 2: stud I'm like, awesome. So this one, this one's from 3258 02:26:40,040 --> 02:26:43,200 Speaker 2: over here there. They're telling me all this terminology. I 3259 02:26:43,240 --> 02:26:46,600 Speaker 2: took this one and I'm like, awesome. My daughter loves horses, 3260 02:26:46,680 --> 02:26:50,640 Speaker 2: Terry Terry breeding and I love it. He's like, wyant 3261 02:26:50,720 --> 02:26:52,680 Speaker 2: you bring her down, bring it one of the things, 3262 02:26:52,920 --> 02:26:54,840 Speaker 2: Like I don't want to because then she asked for 3263 02:26:54,840 --> 02:27:04,600 Speaker 2: a horse. Here Terry Uncle, Terry bro around racewalking race. 3264 02:27:05,560 --> 02:27:08,400 Speaker 1: There's a lot of controversy about racewalk Olympics. 3265 02:27:08,720 --> 02:27:11,280 Speaker 6: Both feet have to be on the ground, So yeah, 3266 02:27:11,280 --> 02:27:12,320 Speaker 6: what the hell I want? 3267 02:27:12,440 --> 02:27:14,119 Speaker 5: So what I've I've also, because I did some reading 3268 02:27:14,120 --> 02:27:17,640 Speaker 5: on before this, is that it's not just that you 3269 02:27:17,840 --> 02:27:20,560 Speaker 5: have to have one foot on the ground. Technically, it's 3270 02:27:20,600 --> 02:27:23,720 Speaker 5: supposed to you. It's supposed to look like you're walking. 3271 02:27:24,080 --> 02:27:26,800 Speaker 5: Like the look matters just as much as the like 3272 02:27:26,959 --> 02:27:28,080 Speaker 5: actual foot on ground. 3273 02:27:28,560 --> 02:27:30,560 Speaker 3: So like that one, who won this one, I don't 3274 02:27:30,560 --> 02:27:31,240 Speaker 3: know it was. 3275 02:27:31,879 --> 02:27:34,920 Speaker 2: Hey, Patrick mahoon been doing the speedwalking when he yes, 3276 02:27:35,040 --> 02:27:37,480 Speaker 2: that's what he'd be doing the speedwalk when he goes 3277 02:27:37,560 --> 02:27:41,440 Speaker 2: over are he's speed walking in the huddle. He's funny. 3278 02:27:42,120 --> 02:27:43,200 Speaker 3: I love his mannerisms. 3279 02:27:43,280 --> 02:27:46,600 Speaker 2: He's so genuine on that field with his whenever the 3280 02:27:46,640 --> 02:27:49,240 Speaker 2: fucking rep or something I hate when other guys do it. 3281 02:27:49,400 --> 02:27:53,160 Speaker 2: I okay with Patrick Mahomes because it's it's him, but 3282 02:27:53,280 --> 02:27:55,640 Speaker 2: it's genuine like some of these dudes out here. I 3283 02:27:55,680 --> 02:27:57,800 Speaker 2: saw I saw a quarterback and I won't put him 3284 02:27:57,840 --> 02:28:01,640 Speaker 2: on blast. Who it was. His face mask got touched 3285 02:28:02,360 --> 02:28:05,879 Speaker 2: in mid sack. He's looking at the goddamn referee asking 3286 02:28:06,400 --> 02:28:08,680 Speaker 2: it just got touched. It just got touched. This is 3287 02:28:08,800 --> 02:28:12,200 Speaker 2: fucking football. He's he's I think he fumbled the ball. 3288 02:28:12,280 --> 02:28:13,760 Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck are we doing? 3289 02:28:14,120 --> 02:28:16,520 Speaker 5: I hate that. I hate Even more than that is 3290 02:28:16,680 --> 02:28:19,440 Speaker 5: the wide receiver who like is looking for a call 3291 02:28:19,560 --> 02:28:22,800 Speaker 5: off a ticket tack you think make a fucking catch. 3292 02:28:23,040 --> 02:28:26,640 Speaker 6: Last one shout out to Brian Pintado, though our reigning 3293 02:28:26,720 --> 02:28:30,920 Speaker 6: gold medalist from Ecuador, Ecuador, he won the Golden Paris Modern. 3294 02:28:31,080 --> 02:28:32,640 Speaker 2: Are last one of these goddamn events. 3295 02:28:33,120 --> 02:28:37,120 Speaker 6: One last one the modern pentathlon, another one where you 3296 02:28:37,160 --> 02:28:39,840 Speaker 6: got to do a bunch of stuff. Penta being five 3297 02:28:40,520 --> 02:28:45,360 Speaker 6: watched the five events fencing, freestyle, swimming, a crestrian, show jumping, 3298 02:28:45,600 --> 02:28:49,840 Speaker 6: pistol shooting, and cross country running. Next Olympics, they're taking 3299 02:28:49,959 --> 02:28:52,840 Speaker 6: the horse element out and they're adding some sort of 3300 02:28:52,879 --> 02:28:56,680 Speaker 6: an obstacle course like a American Ninja warrior thing. Kind 3301 02:28:56,680 --> 02:29:00,320 Speaker 6: of lame, but what's the the origin of this is, Yes, 3302 02:29:00,800 --> 02:29:05,359 Speaker 6: this is what a nineteen like a nineteenth century cavalry 3303 02:29:05,440 --> 02:29:06,320 Speaker 6: soldier would have to do. 3304 02:29:07,280 --> 02:29:09,119 Speaker 2: So you gotta like, you know, you're carrying a mess. 3305 02:29:09,200 --> 02:29:11,000 Speaker 2: They didn't have to run in nineteenth century today. 3306 02:29:11,560 --> 02:29:13,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, nineteenth. 3307 02:29:13,440 --> 02:29:16,600 Speaker 6: Century had to swim over a river you gotta like 3308 02:29:16,879 --> 02:29:18,240 Speaker 6: run across a v you know what I mean. 3309 02:29:18,520 --> 02:29:20,440 Speaker 1: You gotta fight a guy with the fight a guy. 3310 02:29:20,520 --> 02:29:21,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Swiss army knife. 3311 02:29:22,000 --> 02:29:24,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, this guy's gotta be kind of like a McCaffrey vet. 3312 02:29:24,800 --> 02:29:27,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, a guy that can do it all free. He's 3313 02:29:27,000 --> 02:29:29,360 Speaker 2: a beast. How do you think he's with the Lamar? 3314 02:29:29,720 --> 02:29:31,760 Speaker 3: Lamar will probably be really good at all this stuff. 3315 02:29:31,840 --> 02:29:34,800 Speaker 6: I could see that I took Lamar in my army. 3316 02:29:35,360 --> 02:29:38,560 Speaker 6: Baker Mayfield, I think Baker, Baker, Baker, the touchdown maker 3317 02:29:38,600 --> 02:29:39,160 Speaker 6: would be great. 3318 02:29:39,400 --> 02:29:42,120 Speaker 2: Bake man, Bake, what can he do? How about that 3319 02:29:42,280 --> 02:29:47,520 Speaker 2: stiff are Yeah, that was fucking awesome. 3320 02:29:47,600 --> 02:29:48,320 Speaker 1: That was wild, bro. 3321 02:29:48,480 --> 02:29:49,160 Speaker 2: I was watching that. 3322 02:29:50,240 --> 02:29:51,400 Speaker 3: Did Nick not want to hit him? 3323 02:29:51,480 --> 02:29:53,240 Speaker 2: That's so weird? It was like a did he not 3324 02:29:53,320 --> 02:29:54,760 Speaker 2: want to throw him down because he didn't want to 3325 02:29:54,760 --> 02:29:56,880 Speaker 2: get penalized? Was he trying to be too smart of 3326 02:29:56,920 --> 02:29:58,920 Speaker 2: a football player? That's what it felt like. I don't know, 3327 02:29:59,160 --> 02:30:01,520 Speaker 2: because he had Adam locked up to be able to 3328 02:30:01,600 --> 02:30:03,280 Speaker 2: keep the focus when you're getting When you got that 3329 02:30:03,440 --> 02:30:06,400 Speaker 2: big ass Nick Bosa hand, I've shaken that hand. That 3330 02:30:06,480 --> 02:30:10,040 Speaker 2: hand is fucking huge, wrapped over my goddamn my wrist 3331 02:30:10,120 --> 02:30:10,840 Speaker 2: made me feel. 3332 02:30:10,640 --> 02:30:11,640 Speaker 3: Like a little baby. 3333 02:30:11,680 --> 02:30:13,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, both of them balls on bake, didn't he that's 3334 02:30:13,200 --> 02:30:14,680 Speaker 2: a big play by bake. That was awesome. 3335 02:30:14,720 --> 02:30:18,039 Speaker 3: Love, what a what an Olympic episode. 3336 02:30:18,200 --> 02:30:22,120 Speaker 2: That was awesome. Thanks Nate, Nate, Thank you very inspirational. Everyone. 3337 02:30:22,200 --> 02:30:26,959 Speaker 2: Go check out the Rugby Seven's check out Nate on everything. 3338 02:30:27,879 --> 02:30:30,720 Speaker 1: Just check out Nate. Just give a look. 3339 02:30:30,959 --> 02:30:34,200 Speaker 6: Then is Strong a Father's Code in a Son's Path? 3340 02:30:34,760 --> 02:30:37,040 Speaker 6: Nate's book out now wherever you buy booth in a 3341 02:30:37,080 --> 02:30:41,080 Speaker 6: Strong Baby, unbelievable inspiration, his story. 3342 02:30:41,640 --> 02:30:46,199 Speaker 2: I mean it's touching and and it's it's pretty crazy 3343 02:30:46,280 --> 02:30:48,160 Speaker 2: to have the will to be able to you know, 3344 02:30:48,240 --> 02:30:51,120 Speaker 2: we have that special relationship with your father's and then 3345 02:30:51,320 --> 02:30:53,600 Speaker 2: you know, to be able to carry on and achieve 3346 02:30:53,680 --> 02:30:57,440 Speaker 2: the things that he's achieved, you know, with that that's 3347 02:30:57,480 --> 02:30:58,640 Speaker 2: been that's just crazy to him. 3348 02:30:58,640 --> 02:31:00,600 Speaker 3: That's that's awesome. He's a fucking man. 3349 02:31:01,480 --> 02:31:03,600 Speaker 2: He's a man's man, and he's a dad now girl 3350 02:31:03,680 --> 02:31:05,440 Speaker 2: dad love that awesome. 3351 02:31:05,879 --> 02:31:06,240 Speaker 3: Awesome. 3352 02:31:06,600 --> 02:31:10,080 Speaker 2: That's been another episode of Games with Names. Subscribe on 3353 02:31:10,120 --> 02:31:13,200 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. 3354 02:31:13,600 --> 02:31:15,720 Speaker 2: Comment a game you want us to do and remember 3355 02:31:15,920 --> 02:31:20,080 Speaker 2: rate and review. Remember to follow Games with Names on YouTube, Instagram, 3356 02:31:20,760 --> 02:31:25,000 Speaker 2: x TikTok, and Snapchat. Leave a message on the hotline 3357 02:31:25,560 --> 02:31:29,800 Speaker 2: at four two four two nine one two two nine zero. 3358 02:31:30,160 --> 02:31:34,080 Speaker 2: We'll see you guys next week. Games with Names is 3359 02:31:34,120 --> 02:31:38,080 Speaker 2: a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit 3360 02:31:38,200 --> 02:31:42,439 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.