1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: What's up, guys, Welcome back to Post friend High. I 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: am so excited for you guys to watch or listen 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: to today's interview with Jackie Ton. Jackie is one of 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: the stars of Netflix's Nobody Wants This. Season two is 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: coming out in February, so I was super excited to 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: be able to sit down with Jackie, learn all about her, 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: hear about the filming of the show, and I really 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: think you guys are going to enjoy this episode. A 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: few months ago, when the show Nobody Wants This first 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: came out, I watched it in one sitting, binged the 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: entire show in one night. And I think it's because 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: I relate so much to the characters in the show. 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: For those of you who don't know, my fiancee, Jeremy 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: is Jewish and I'm Catholic, and Jeremy's family is just 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: full of so many characters. I'm really really close with 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: Jeremy's grandma, Grandma Bee, and Grandma Bee is just such 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: a stereotypical Jewish grandma, if you know, you know. And 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: so when I was watching Nobody Wants This, I just 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: felt like I was almost watching my own life on screen, 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: Like I connected so much to the characters in the show, 21 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: so to be able to a few months later sit 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: down with Jackie, it really is just a dream. Anyways, 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to ramble, so I just want to 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: say thank you so much. It's absolutely incredible that we 25 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: have gone from running on the streets of New York 26 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: with a tripod in hand, asking strangers to run with 27 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: me in exchange for a pair of sneakers, to now 28 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: being able to sit down with our guests after our 29 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: runs and just go even deeper. Your support really does 30 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: mean the world to me. So make sure you follow 31 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: this podcast, subscribe to my YouTube channel, and without further ado, 32 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: let's get this. Let's us Jackie what welcome to post 33 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: run High. 34 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I asked Jeremy as we were 35 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: coming in from the run. I was like, is, so 36 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: this is what exercising feels like. Like my heart's pounding 37 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: and I'm like in a really good mood. I feel 38 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 2: like a little bit geeked. And then it's literally, that's 39 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: what a post run high actually is. I was explaining 40 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 2: your show to him exactly. 41 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: So Jackie and I, for reference, for those of you listening, 42 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: we just did a running interview you're coming from my 43 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: running interview show. Welcome Jackie, and I just ran a 44 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: mile and I think it was your first time running 45 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: in a minute. We love encouraging. 46 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: It was only a mile. 47 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: We've probably fell it a mile maybe a little under. 48 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 2: Oh that's so disappointing. I was so proud of myself, 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: Like I thought we were like bolting for ages. We were, 50 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: and we were like lightly jogging for a brief time. 51 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 2: You were saying, Okay, I was proud of myself. I 52 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: did good. 53 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: Wait, is it true that your parents were PE teachers. 54 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: Both of my parents were fully PE teachers, incredible athletes. 55 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: Both my mom was an amazing they're both around, but 56 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: they don't aren't PE teachers anymore. So when I say 57 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: was my mom used to be like an incredible field 58 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: hockey player, ball, played everything. And my dad, who was 59 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 2: a gymnastics coach in Brooklyn and he trained my brother 60 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: and my like he was there my brother's coach for everything, soccer, baseball, 61 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: I want to say basketball. I mean it's insane, that's amazing. 62 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: And I can't kick, throw catch. 63 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: So you grew up with two pe parents that were 64 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: physical education teachers and you it was. 65 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 2: Just like had tap shoes on from the day I 66 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: was born, right, I just was jazz handing from birth, 67 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: and everyone else was an athlete. 68 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: Did you ever to play sports like soccer as a 69 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: little kid? 70 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: I played soccer, and I think I only remember the 71 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: story as opposed to remembering does he experience. But my 72 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: mom used to do my hair either half up or 73 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: two half ups, so I used quarter ups. Yeah, and 74 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: so in my soccer picture I'm in I think my 75 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: team was stride right. That was a shoe store and 76 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: ocean side Long Island, and there's a picture of me 77 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: in a yellow shirt holding a soccer ball with like 78 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: one leg up and the fake stands in the background 79 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: with my quarter ups. And apparently that was the only 80 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: time I ever played soccer. And while all the kids 81 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: were running around, I had undiagnosed adhd yeh obviously, and 82 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: I picked all the grass. 83 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: I was literally just gonna say, you were picking grass, baby. 84 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: I picked a handful and then I would throw it 85 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: in the sky and then I would count it while 86 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: all the kids ran by me. 87 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: Okay, but what I got out of that story also 88 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: was that you were one of the little girls growing 89 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: up that always had a specific hair style. I love 90 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: that always I never had that. They are always the 91 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: girls that had like the little pigtails, and they. 92 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: Were kind of no, no, no, no, that wasn't me. Okay, deeply, 93 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: deeply not me. My hair was always parted in the 94 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 2: middle and straight down, always and forever. I'm so independent 95 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: and fiercely self sufficient because my mom is that way, right, 96 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: Like I wore a tuxedo to my bot mitzvah wait. 97 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: I love that we like went to Ocean Side Talks. 98 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: We rented it for the whole. 99 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: Thing that is iconic, and you had a Hollywood theme 100 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: to butt Mitz. But I saw that in a podcast. 101 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: I'll have to show you the pictures of of the 102 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: butt Mitz tucks. I just got a couple of My 103 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: mom just texted me. 104 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so you didn't love sports growing up, but you 105 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: were a child actor. You started acting when you were nine, 106 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: so I'm sure that took over your life in a 107 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: way that sports would have. 108 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: I started acting when I was nine, but even before that, 109 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 2: I can't think of a time when I didn't want 110 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: to do this, right. It's really wild when I really 111 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: think about it, Like when I was getting on the 112 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: train walking to Harold Square, and I'm just being like, 113 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: what the fuck you made it? It's not even nah, 114 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: I mean it is. It is actually exactly that, And 115 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 2: I guess I maybe part of my like insecurity is 116 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: even like admitting that to myself. 117 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: You've been in the industry for so long, since you 118 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: were nine years old, and to now have a show 119 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: you've been in so many shows, you've been acting your 120 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: whole life, and to now have this one show that's 121 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: the top show on Netflix for anybody listening, we're talking 122 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: about Nobody Wants This for reference that Jackie just started. 123 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: When I tell you this is the most full circle 124 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: moment for me, because I was telling Jackie before we 125 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: started recording. But I binged the show in one night, 126 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: and I also worked with Netflix to do a lot 127 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: of promotion for the show. I was obsessed with your character. 128 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: You were so iconic in it. It makes so much 129 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: sense that you were casted for the role. So I'm 130 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: so excited to get into everything about Nobody Wants This. 131 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: But it's amazing that you are part of a show 132 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: that's such a phenomenon. 133 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: Thanks dude. That's you know, it's sort of exactly how 134 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm just like you know, you make 135 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: a lot of things and you hope anyone sees any 136 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: of them, and then you do a thing and then 137 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: a lot of people see it and it just feels good. 138 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: It's just like, oh, this is definitely different. 139 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: Right, But let's back up and like talk about the 140 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: growth as an actress, because what you kind of just 141 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: explained is so common for so many actresses. 142 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: It's definitely the most common scenario, undoubtedly, right, Like, I mean, 143 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: if you're lucky, you get a couple guest stars a year. 144 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one, after Glow got canceled, I lost 145 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: my health insurance. Then we had COVID for three years, 146 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 2: and then we had the strike and we are coming 147 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: out of like the darkest time in decades to be 148 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: in this business. I mean there were no opportunities and 149 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: if that, yeah, we couldn't do anything and nobody wants 150 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: This was even on hold because of the strike. I 151 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: mean everything was on hold, right well yeah, a lot 152 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: of yeah, and a lot of things died during the 153 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 2: strike and then didn't come back after. 154 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: Did you film anything that never came out? No? 155 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean that happened with Glow because 156 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 2: with my show before nobody wants this. We got picked 157 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: up for a season four, so people are always like, oh, 158 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: bummed you didn't make season four. I'm like, oh no, 159 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: we wanted to let me, Oh no, we start. We 160 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: were two episodes in. We got shut down because of COVID, 161 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: and we were supposed to come back and supposed to 162 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: come back, and then we just never did. 163 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: So what was your life like during that time? Was 164 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: it like, did you feel like it was very uncertain 165 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: or were you kind of in like a comfortable spot both. 166 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: I was in an unbelievably lucky place because I had 167 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: just hosted a Netflix cooking show called Best Leftovers Ever, 168 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: which also died during COVID because the last thing anybody 169 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: wanted to do was think about how to like repurpose 170 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: food from that was all just like everything needs to 171 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: be sanitized and fresh and clean, and we were purelling 172 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: our groceries and x y Z. I had a really, 173 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: really unbelievably like probably the best career year of my 174 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: life in twenty nineteen, which was Glow and my cooking 175 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: show and my cartoon Dora and Me, which is an 176 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: animated preschool musical series on Amazon. But then COVID and listen, 177 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: it's undoubtedly worse to have never gotten those things than 178 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: to have gotten them and then literally lost them all 179 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: because of COVID, but also sucked. And so it's like, 180 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: I always feel weird talking about how much it sucked 181 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: to lose those things, because I obviously, as an actor 182 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: who had so little opportunity and so little for so long, 183 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 2: I understand that that is objectively worse. But I was 184 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: lucky because I wasn't I wasn't financially screwed. I mean, 185 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: I wasn't rolling in the dough. But I was like, 186 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: I'd be okay, where a lot of people I knew 187 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: were like literally not going to be okay. And there 188 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: were no jobs to get in the business or out 189 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: of the business. You could barely leave your house. So 190 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: I was lucky in that regard. And as far as 191 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: your question of like, what was my life like during 192 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: that time, I was, like the rest of us, more 193 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: concerned about getting COVID than I was about getting an 194 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: acting job because there was no vaccine. You were hearing 195 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: these terrible, these horror stories, and so I was just 196 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: pretty much staying inside and felt lucky to have worked 197 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: the year prior. 198 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: What did you do to keep busy, Like, are you 199 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: a writer at all? 200 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: Do you like it? Am my writing partner Rachel and 201 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: I we uh, we wrote a feature and a musical feature, 202 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: but which we're going to try and take out. 203 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: I love that you have this musical theater side of 204 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: you too, write like you love singing. And I know 205 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: you auditioned for American Idol, but you were on American Idol. Yeah, 206 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: but I want you to back it up and tell us, like, 207 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: what was the first show that you were on when 208 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: you were nine? 209 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: When I was nine, I was doing like I was auditioning. 210 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: Can you imagine? I wish I saw a video of 211 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: me at nine on an audition. I remember when I 212 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: was younger, people would say to my mom, like I'd 213 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: be on audition. They'd be like, oh, she's always on huh. 214 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: We didn't know that I was, you know, I mean, 215 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: we assumed, but that was like before they were diagnosing 216 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: girls with ADHD and so I it just was like, 217 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: I am an absolute internal combustion engine. This is just 218 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: sort of what it is. And when I go to sleep, 219 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: I go to go to sleep. 220 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: Do you feel like that energy level has helped you 221 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: with acting? 222 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I have so much energy. I was like, 223 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: I need to do stuff. So I was like touring 224 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 2: and I was like a musical comedian and I was 225 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 2: on the road for it. And so I think the 226 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: energy definitely helps with things like that where I'm just 227 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: like planning a tour and going on and doing every 228 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: single thing myself, going to these college conferences and trying 229 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: to get booked and then flying to Carney, Nebraska and 230 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: flying to South Dakota. And it definitely helps in those regards. 231 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: But it's so interesting how much you've done, So can 232 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: you give us like kind of a career path and 233 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: like how you got to where you are today. 234 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. So when I was a kid, I was very 235 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: lucky because my mom had a close friend named Aggie Gould, 236 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: who ran a company out of Baldwin, Long Island called 237 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: Fresh Faces Agency. She represented me, and I always wanted 238 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 2: to be a TV star. Always cannot remember a time 239 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: where I wasn't like in the back doing impressions of 240 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: commercials like it's just for this forever. And my mom 241 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: is deeply sickly funny, like she was beyond. My dad's 242 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: really funny too, but he's very musically gifted. He writes, 243 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 2: songs and sings and plays piano and he taught me 244 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 2: how to play guitar. Yeah, he's unbelievable. And so I 245 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 2: came from a very artistic family, but nobody was pursuing it. 246 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: And then when I wanted to be an actor, my 247 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: mom quit her job, and I mean she, I think 248 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: she was already substitute teaching because she was raising me 249 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: and two brothers, and my dad was working full time. 250 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: He's also a postal historian, so he was insane, so 251 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: he was like doing these trade shows on the weekend 252 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: and working five days a week, working thirty something weekends 253 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: a year. And so my mom was raising me and 254 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: my brothers and substitute teaching at that point. And so 255 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: then I think she stopped doing that to take me 256 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: on auditions. And when I think I got my first 257 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: gig on The Nanny when I was like twelve, and 258 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: then they were really few and far between. I did 259 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff for Nickelodeon. I had like a 260 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: development deal at nick They were trying to make me 261 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: like a kid's show. I tested for all that, you know, 262 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: four or five seasons in a row, and then they 263 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: made me my own show called and now This, which 264 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: was a spin off of all that, All That and 265 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 2: now This, and then we only did a couple episodes 266 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: and then I probably was fifteen at that point. And 267 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: then when I was then I went to university to Delaware. 268 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: You were setting like to be an elementary school teacher, 269 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: right or something like that. 270 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: Listen, Yes, the University of Delaware is the reason I 271 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: moved to LA because we had such a long break. 272 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: There was a mini mester between December and February, so 273 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: all my friends in BacT school in January, and since 274 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: we had such a long break, my agent was like, 275 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: go to LA. It's pilot season. It's like the young 276 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: adult year of the you know, Dawson's Creek had just 277 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: come out, and she was like, go to LA. Let's 278 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: try it out. You have like practically six seven weeks 279 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 2: to be out there. So don't think we went out 280 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: for quite that long. But we went out for a while, 281 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: me my mom and my agent. And then I was 282 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 2: getting so many meetings and so many things. And then 283 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: this guy, Danny Jacobson signed me to a development deal 284 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: and he was gonna write me a show. He show 285 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: ran Roseanne and Modern I'm not I'm mad about you, 286 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: and I was like, well, I guess I'm robbing out 287 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: of school. And then I was still on the fence. 288 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: And I went to the TV Guide Awards with my 289 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: friend Ben Salisbury, who had been on The Nanny with 290 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: Many many years ago, and I met one of my 291 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: favorite actresses who yes, I had posters of on my wall, 292 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: Jessica biel Oh my god. We became good friends at 293 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: the TV Guide Awards. We literally met and were like 294 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: what very similar vibes, deep voices, very like tomboy energy. 295 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: She drove like a super fucking old like Bronco, just 296 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: like she's such a badass. We met, we were like, okay, 297 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: game recognized game. Not that I'm nearly as cool as her, 298 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: but you get the point all of this. I was like, 299 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 2: I gotta go back to college and she was like, huh, 300 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: how old was she? Like was she she was seventeen? 301 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: I was eighteen. 302 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: Wow. 303 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 2: And she was like just moving with me, like the 304 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 2: guys are. 305 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: So young, literally, Jessica bielle children. 306 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: Maybe she was like she was like, move in with 307 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 2: me and my parents in Calabasas. I was like, I 308 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: don't have a car. She was like, use my car. 309 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: And now because I wasn't moving into nowhere. My parents 310 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: were like, okay. Her mom called my mom. Her mom, 311 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: Kim is like still close to me to this day, 312 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: and she called my mom, was like, hey, I'm Jesse's mom, 313 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: and my parents came out. They met Jesse's parents, and 314 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: my parents were like, okay, I mean, if you're going 315 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: to be moving here and living with a family in 316 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: a gated community, I mean best case scenario. And of 317 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: course I couldn't stay there forever, and so then I 318 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: moved out. Then a girl named Brie, Brie Blair, who's 319 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: still one of my closest friends to this day, who 320 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: was Stacey in the original BABYSITTERSS Club movie. She tested 321 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: for a pilot I did when I was fifteen. Brie 322 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: and I stayed friends, and then she dropped out of college, 323 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: and then after I moved out of Jesse's, I moved 324 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: in with Brie. 325 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: Okay, and then the rest is history. 326 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: And the rest is history, and I never left LA 327 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: except to do a play in New York for a 328 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: couple of years. 329 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: That's amazing, And your career just kind of took off 330 00:14:59,600 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: from there. 331 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: Kind of you to say, no, my career took off 332 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: very few years ago. My career took off at glow. 333 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: I was I was like between organizing jobs and touring 334 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: and making a couple hundred bucks to play a gig 335 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: here and. 336 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: There for Depth Cloud. What is it like auditioning and 337 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: then like facing rejection. 338 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: I mean my closet was provided by Kristen's hand me downs. Truly. Yeah, 339 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: it was cool. You know, I was really lucky because 340 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: I always had like something I was by no means 341 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: on like hit shows and working all the time and 342 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: killing it as an actor and an enter. But I 343 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: was like getting a commercial here and there and touring 344 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 2: if I needed to, And so I was like staving 345 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: off having to get a nine to five or do 346 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: you know a lot of the jobs that I took 347 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: were by no means glamorous, but they were at least, 348 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: and I feel grateful for this, they were at least 349 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: in the direction or career I wanted them to be. 350 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: And like when I talk about my college touring, it 351 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: was rough. Like I was in motels right, and like 352 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: sometimes I had to change the motel because it was 353 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: like genuinely concerning and I would call the front, like 354 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: I had this one time I called the front desk 355 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: because I was like the guy the people staying next 356 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: to me are banging on the wall and like screaming 357 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: things through the wall, and she was like, those guys 358 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: are really drunk and I saw them come in. If 359 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: you'd like, I can escort you back to your car, 360 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: and I don't think it's a bad idea for you 361 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: to And the woman at the front desk helped me 362 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: find somewhere else to stay and like escorted me out 363 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: of it. That was like I was young and I 364 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: had a guitar on my back and I was in 365 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: these random small towns across the country, which so many 366 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: of are beautiful, but they were like shady situations all 367 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: the time. This wasn't the erastour mom. This was like 368 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: me alone in a Yaris rental car that the guitar 369 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: had to be like out the window of it was 370 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: like wild. 371 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: I have so much respect for it because it's so 372 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: amazing and it's such a testament and it's so amazing 373 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: for people to hear that want to get into acting, 374 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: and it's such a testament of you keep pushing for 375 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: something that you want and eventually it will come into 376 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: fruition as long as you believe in yourself, you know, 377 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: and then it's like the perfect part comes along. Nobody 378 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: wants this. 379 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 2: I feel so lucky. 380 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: When did you first audition? And I know you're really 381 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: good friends with Kristin Bell, right, you guys have been 382 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: friends for twenty years, which is amazing. So I have 383 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: so many questions about kind of the relationship in the 384 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: show that you guys got to play. 385 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: When I think of my dog Glenn and I think 386 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: of Kristin and my boyfriend Joe, the same thing happens 387 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: to my face. It turns into like you get. 388 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: Like excited, Yeah, yeah. 389 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 2: Wow, I love those I love those ones. Like it's 390 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: like I almost feel like yeah, like they're my like 391 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: they're my babies. 392 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: How excited was Kristin when she found out that you 393 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: were auditioning for the role. 394 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 2: I think she was pumped, But I think I don't know. 395 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 2: I mean never, I never asked her. I mean, I 396 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: think it's very rare in anyone's career for them to 397 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: try out for something that they're so dead right for, 398 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: Like it doesn't happen. 399 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: A lot like Mell's so right for it. 400 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: But Melrose that I played on Glow, they were not 401 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: looking for me. They were looking for like a Paris 402 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: Hilton type, like she was the party girl and she 403 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: was this interesting. But then I came in and I 404 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: was reading for Ruth originally, which was Ali Breeze Roll, 405 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: and I was like, coming back for it, coming back 406 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: for it. I think that they loved Ali for Ruth 407 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: because she's brilliant and perfect for it. They wanted to 408 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: put me somewhere, and I was. I tried out for 409 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 2: Shila the Wolf, and I tried out for the cheerleader, 410 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: and they were like, what is And then what I 411 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 2: brought to the Melrose character was completely different than what 412 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 2: they had in mind. And so it's not like I 413 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: walked up to that audition and I was like, Bam, 414 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: let's go. But when I read esther, I was like, 415 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: oh my god. I mean, if you think about it, 416 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 2: the odds does an actor that you're ever like just 417 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: dead right for something. It doesn't come along that often right, 418 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: especially if you're kind of particular like me. And then 419 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 2: also your good friend is working on that show. It's 420 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 2: really a marriage of things that is like so divine 421 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: it is that it's really hard to wrap even my 422 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: own brain. 423 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: No, it literally gives me chills peak roll was so 424 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: meant for you. And I know you grew up in 425 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: a Jewish household, so I'm curious, like how much influence 426 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: were you able to draw from your up? 427 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: I mean all it was funny because for the bot Mitzvahcine, 428 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: I wore this black dress and I called my mom 429 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: and I was like, Jewish women don't wear black to 430 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: about misfits. She was like, well, Orthodox probably don't because 431 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: we wear black for Shiva and for funerals. But she 432 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: was like for a reform, and then she like checked 433 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 2: with some people and she was like, no, a black 434 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 2: dress is okay for reform. So sweet. 435 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: So you were calling your mom being like is this 436 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: is yes? 437 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: Right? Like are you a too resultant? Because the dress 438 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 2: we liked best and Noigar our costumer, who's incredible, We 439 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: all love this black dress best. But I was like, 440 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: let me just call my mom and make sure that 441 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: like black is okay. I mean for most people it is, 442 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: but for like mother of the butt mytz, I was 443 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: just double checking. 444 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Oh my god, the butt Mitzvacine was so cute. 445 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: Thank you, But the girl that played your daughter and 446 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: you guys cutting the dress, oh, I was just like, 447 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: genuinely so obsessed with your character, and I'm curious because 448 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: you and Kristin are such good friends. I think the 449 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: funniest part about it was obviously you have so much 450 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: love for Kristin, and I feel like that underlying theme 451 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: throughout the show is like you actually kind of like 452 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: her in the show esther. 453 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 2: Ends up, I mean falling for Joanne the way everybody does. 454 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: She's funny, she's huge, charming. 455 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: But what was it like playing a character that had 456 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: to all of a sudden act like they didn't like 457 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: your best friend? Like, was that funny for you? 458 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 2: It was funny, But it's also like acting is so 459 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: it's so fun and silly, and obviously it could be 460 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: challenging at times, but like playing like you don't it's 461 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 2: not you know what I mean, I'm not Anthony Hopkins. 462 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 2: It's like it's fine, I just pretended I didn't, you 463 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's like it was it was 464 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: really fun and afterwards we would always laugh, and I 465 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: think I was trying to with most of the other 466 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: characters anyway, insert a little bit of levity, like because 467 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: I obviously didn't, I don't want her to have the 468 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: same relationship with every person on the show, and just 469 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 2: you know, she's scarcely loyal and she loves her husband 470 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 2: and her daughter. She's not so thrilled about this new kitten. 471 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I really connected to the show because 472 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: Jeremy's family and his grandma they are like, they're very 473 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: religious Jews, and I grew up Catholic, Roman Catholic. I 474 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: went to Catholic grammar school, Catholic high school. But it's 475 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: funny because I like called Jeremy's grandma and I'm like, 476 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: so would you consider me a shitzva? And like keep 477 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: in mind, Oh my god, you guys, what do you say? 478 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 2: I love you so much, not even close shiksa? But 479 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 2: what's so cute? Wait, god, it's so cute. Everyone at 480 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: homest I know this. So when we were on our run, 481 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: Kate was like, which one of us do you think 482 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: is Jewish? 483 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: H huh? 484 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: And I was like, not you. Yeah, it's just really 485 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: cute because like, no, right, you're too, I mean, not you. 486 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 2: And I just loved it because I don't know what 487 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 2: it is about about like my like Judaism radar, but 488 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: like it's pretty I don't know if I've been I 489 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: don't think if I've been wrong. I mean, maybe maybe, 490 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 2: but today I wasn't. Yeah, I wonder what it is. 491 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 1: I don't know. 492 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: I recently did a play reading with Jason Alexander in 493 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: la and you want to talk on bench what just 494 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: an absolutely delightful human being. But what was really interesting 495 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 2: is like I was a little hesitant to say it, 496 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 2: but once I said it, I was relieved. I was like, 497 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: do you not feel like we're related? And he was like, 498 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: I feel like we're related. It was immediate. The second 499 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 2: we met, it was like you you hi, Hello up. 500 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: The second we walked in, He's like, well, part of 501 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 2: Long Island you from, and I'm like, ocean side you. 502 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: He's like, well, no I'm not, but my wife is 503 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: from myself. And I was like, again, I can't really 504 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: explain it. To be honest, I wish I could. Yeah, 505 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 2: but I just think it's like it's a cultural connection. 506 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: I think it's anybody of the same culture, you know. 507 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: I remember in high school I had friends who were 508 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 2: Greek Orthodox and we went to another town and there 509 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: was like one of my good friends. Funny enough, on 510 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: two of my good best girlfriends were dating Nicos and 511 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 2: they're from different towns, and when the two nicos met, 512 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: it was like they were from the same family. 513 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: It's just me. 514 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: You just get it, and I think, you know with Jews, 515 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 2: we have that same thing. 516 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: So nobody wants this. Do we know yet if there's 517 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: gonna be a season two? 518 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 2: Yes, we do. We found out two weeks after we aired. 519 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: I had no We've known there's gonna be a season 520 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 2: two for like a month. 521 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so nobody wants a season two. Have you guys 522 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: started filming? When do you start filming? 523 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: We start filming, I heard, but I don't know, so 524 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 2: hopefully I'm saying this right, but I heard February. But 525 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: also like, I don't know. 526 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: And how much time do you need to prepare for 527 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: the role? 528 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: None? Really, I mean whenever we get the script, so 529 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 2: you know, like a few days prior. You just memorize 530 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: each scene as you're gonna film it, so and you 531 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: don't film and you film the episodes in order, but 532 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: you don't film the scenes in order, so you'll just 533 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: see what's seen you're filming next, and you'll memorize that, 534 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: hopefully a couple of days prior. But you get really 535 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: familiar with each script beforehand, depending on how long before 536 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: you shoot you get them, but generally that's not very long. 537 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: When you're acting out the scene. How much of it 538 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: is memorization from the script as it is also like 539 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: are you doing any improv. 540 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 2: So it depends. So like I did an episode of 541 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: I was in the season premiere of NCIS, I played 542 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: a divorce attorney, and it was like a very intell 543 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 2: like zero, like you need to memorize exactly word for 544 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: word what is on that page. You do not deviate, 545 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 2: you do not make it your own. No, baby, you 546 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 2: show up, you do the job, you go home. On Glow, 547 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: the writing was so unbelievable and similar to nobody wants this. 548 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 2: But a lot of times on Glow people thought I improvised, 549 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 2: Like in this episode where Ruth shows up and she's 550 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: wearing cute little rebox and I forgot my exercise shoes 551 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 2: because I'm out from being out all night, and I 552 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 2: see her rebox and she's like, oh, I have these 553 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 2: other shoes. They're like these brown nursing shoes. She's like, 554 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: for my other job, waitressing. And I look at them 555 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: and I'm like, where did you waitress a nursing home? 556 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 2: In Poland, and everybody texted me like, oh that's so you. 557 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love that you made that up. 558 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't. 559 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: Wow. 560 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: Those were our writers. They heard me, and they heard 561 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: how I deliver information and how I deliver jokes, and 562 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: then catered the writing to that. So then I looked better, 563 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 2: The show looked better. Everything, all the puzzle pieces fit 564 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: together better because everybody instead of like working again. Obviously 565 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: wouldn't be any service to anyone to work against your strengths, 566 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 2: but they took who we all were. And then there 567 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 2: were some things in Glow that you said, but it 568 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 2: was mostly all written now on nobody wants this again, 569 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 2: almost exclusively written. But there are bits and pieces like 570 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 2: we were in this panel yesterday and I found this 571 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: because I wasn't in that scene. But like where Tim 572 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: who plays Sasha, says that when he looks at old 573 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 2: pictures of Mandy Bittank and he gets a half sandwich. 574 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 2: Apparently he completely improvised that, and then Kristen popped in like, 575 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 2: oh yeah there was a woman there was Oh, I've 576 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: been to this corner a woman got hit on a bike, 577 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: Like he's such an idiot. Yeah, so he's improvising a 578 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: lot and saying a bunch of different stuff, and when 579 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: he and Iron scenes together, all bets are off. So 580 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 2: we definitely do everything that's on the page. But then 581 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: if there's a little moment where we additionally want to, 582 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: like he says, what are you doing when he comes 583 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: in the room, we like improvise that. So the scene 584 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: started just after, but they were like, oh, Tim, you 585 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: know what, let's have you enter. So he comes in, 586 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: He's like, what are you doing? And I'm like, pairing 587 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 2: your gargantuan socks? What does it look like? So we're 588 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: just making things up and talking to each other in character, 589 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 2: and then the scene starts. We do the whole scene, 590 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 2: and then he leaves and he's like, so these shorts 591 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: do nothing for you. I'm like, it's the mesh. Like 592 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: everything we're saying as he's exiting is improvised as well. 593 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: Interesting scene, but it's just like we didn't know when 594 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 2: we were doing those things. Is the scene going to 595 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 2: start where the page starts or is it going to 596 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: start with our little moment? 597 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: Right? 598 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 2: And then subsequently is it going to end where the 599 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: page ends or is it gonna end after our little 600 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, they were very open to our to having 601 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 2: us play and make the character as our own. But 602 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: also the show is so well written, so we obviously 603 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 2: said everything that was on the page in addition to 604 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 2: adding our own little. 605 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: So season two, you guys are going to start filming soon? 606 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: Anything else coming up that you're excited about? 607 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: I mean, it's so soon. It's already November. We're starting 608 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: in February. So it's like I'm hoping to have it's 609 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: been a crazy The show came out September twenty sixth. 610 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 2: It's November. 611 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: I can't believe it was so recent, Like I can't. 612 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 2: Believe it was so recent or so long ago. In 613 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 2: this weird way where like somehow it's still in the 614 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 2: top ten, and with Netflix, because everything comes out at 615 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: one time. 616 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: Thank god, I was able to binge one stop the 617 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: best five hours of your life. 618 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 2: But like it's because it all comes out at once. 619 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: It's hard with a show that comes out and is 620 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: only ten episodes, right to keep the excitement going because 621 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: everyone saw it already in September, And so we're in 622 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 2: this really cool and exciting and rare place where it's 623 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: November and we're still able to talk about it. Which 624 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: makes me happy. 625 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: That's for sure, Absolutely all right. I like to end 626 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: my episodes with a special kick. With a special kick, okay, 627 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: And one final question, which is a manifestation. I want 628 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: you to let us know what are we manifesting for 629 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five? Let me hear it. 630 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: Health for my family, health for me and my boyfriend Joe, 631 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 2: love for me and my boyfriend Joe, health, and twenty 632 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 2: eight more years of life for my baby son, Glenn, 633 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: so Glenn will live till twenty sixty five. And that 634 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 2: nobody wants this season two is so fun and delicious 635 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 2: to make, and that some cool other things I don't know, 636 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 2: maybe that Nanny Broadway show happens. And someone says, does 637 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: Jackie want to read for this? And I say yes, 638 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: missus Chamfium, Oh. 639 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: My gosh, well, I am absolutely rooting for you in 640 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:47,479 Speaker 1: every single thing you do. 641 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: Thanks, I'm rooting for you, the cutest, brightest, angelest person. 642 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: Thank you. 643 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: Thought you were going to trick me thinking you were Jewish. 644 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 2: Thank you so friend,